Food editionThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhOld bread: >>124387372
I am done. Done with it all. Done with this existence. I reject what it has to offer. I reject what any of you filthy monkeys, carbon filth, less important than dirt... no, even dirt has more importance than a human, the word "filthy" is itself degraded when attached to such a despicable entity as a human. Even the foulest and irritating bug, a maggot, so to speak, has more worth than a man. Tell me the ways to erode myself. Teach me the method to eviscerate my flesh. Drop my corpse in a sewer so no human can ever touch it again.I will leave this circus. I will disappear into the realm of waves, where there exist such music... I know there exists a musical chord... a wave that has eluded me for years... I will force that theophany to reveal itself in front of me, to take me and consume me and I... consequently will consume everything.
>>124420580thanks scriabincel
>>124420706>>124420657Scriabin raped your mind.
>>124420713so true scriabincel
Just take a good look at this filth that is being uttered here. One can only imagine how harsh and solitary life must have been for an artist like Scriabin during his time. Not only was he the Prometheus who brought humanity such groundbreaking and revolutionary music, but he was also a natural force of transcendence. His work evokes deep emotional transformation and spiritual introspection; it inspires you to seek higher understanding, immerse yourself in creative expression, support the arts, and live with honesty and a sense of cosmic harmony. This positive "vibe," imbued in you through Scriabin's rich and mystical music, truly demonstrates how great the Russian was.
>>124420580>>124420713BASED. HEIL SCRIABIN
>>124420750HEIL
Who else already lost No Nut November and relapsed to Scriabin?
>>124420764the phrase has the same letter after each word. i never considered just how cool that was. upvoted! edit: don't give up ya'll we have 14 days remaining
Does that guy that posted Stephan Möller's Fortepiano recording of the Hammerklavier sonata have any more fortepiano recordings from him? Doesn't have to be specifically beethoven. I have trouble finding any recordings whatsoever from him.
>>124420946seconding
>>124419244I really enjoy his Mozart sonata cycle. I think it could easily be considered one of the best in terms of the interpretive decisions. Mozart's fortepiano is a tad harsh sounding, though. I think Staier's choice of fortepiano is still my favorite for that era. >>124420946No, sorry. I don't know of any other recordings that he did on a fortepiano.
>>124420750>>124420580unfunny forced meme #15262
Wagner appeals only to longhoused freaks and repressoids. The well-turned out and aristocratic man is naturally repulsed by him as he is by other items of academic bourgeois kitsch. He is the musical equivalent of a stag painting. I'm sure he goes nicely with your fat wife's fish jelly but he cannot speak to the soul of a Caesar.
Who is the most Kantian composer?
>>124421602Mozart.
Try listening to some other composers, seriously. There are so many good ones out there that got ripped off because they actually take some thinking from the program directors. The Ameican Neo-Classicists from the early-mid 20th century in particular. Try Moby Dick from Mennin for starters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dy_haKSIvs
>>124422020No thanks.
>>124422020schwarz is a jew. also comma no thanks.
>>124422020I've got the huge Schwarz box on Naxos, I'll check out if there's any Mennin
>>124422020Boring. I will use this to tire myself out pre-sleep. For fuck sakes nothing sounds great after Wagner.
>>124422126Turns out it has Moby Dick. Will it have the sperm squishing, I wonder?
>>124422126>>124422213Great. Schwarz is fantastic. I like his Hovhaness too.
Music concluded with Wagner. Now comes the Dark Age with Artificial Intelligence.
>>124422256Pic rel should be good
>>124422134It makes a good overture.
>>124420490Damn they really did Liszt dirty like that
>>124422374You mean they did champagne dirty?
>>124422288Prove it. Where to start with Wagner?
>>124422288Brahms better
>>124422497Lohengrin
Why is Casadesus never talked about?
Is there even a recording of Don Giovanni as definitive as, say, Klemperer's Magic Flute, or Kleiber's Figaro?
>>124422497Listening to Wagner is like making a pact with the Devil. Once he has taken you, there is no going back. I will not suggest Wagner to the people with weak minds.
>>124422823maybe giulini?
>>124422823Busch
>stockhausen>onionsfuck you also for me it's Terry Riley and Phill Niblock
>>124422871No wonder they call Wagner "The Bard of Bacchus".
>>124422497You can't enjoy Wagner properly without reading Schopenhauer's essays about the Will. Maybe read the middle pages of Zarathustra as well. Then and only then can you begin your odyssey through Wagnerian sound. Starting obviously with Tristan and Isolde.
>>124423417thanks RYMsister
>>124423728Obsessive insomniac hallucinations as always
>>124423747>he failed againLMFAO
>>124423750Not really, I succeeded(at succeeding).
>>124423765sure thing, delusional loser indian. ROFL
>>124423553>Starting obviously with Tristan and IsoldeWorst starting point imaginable for a novice
>>124423770Sure thing demented insomniac.
>>124423831at this point, the indian loser failing again isn’t so much a joke as it is a fact of life. LOL
>>124423869At this point, I'm pretty much succeeding still, not sure what you mean swarthy insomniac.
>>124423933succeeding at being a loser who loses in every single thread LOL
>>124423954Succeeding at outting you as a big L for this general, swrathoid insomniac.
>>124423961that's a lot of words to say "i'm a huge loser" ROFLMAO
Guys, please...
>>124423977referring to the loser pajeet as a "guy" is extremely transphobic, apologize immediately.
>>124423965Truer words would be "I succeeded", which I did.
>>124423989true to a loser, LOL
>>124423999As triumphant* as Wagner.
>>124424024yep, it's an indian tranny loser alright.
>>124424034Swarthoid insomniac strikes again.
>>124424040it's past your dilation time, indian sister.
>>124424099Your swarthoid insomniac presence has just begun (unfortunately)
>>124422823both if those suck
>>124424124your losing began the day you were born and will end the day you die; such is life in india. LOL.
>>124424147You are extremely unwanted here swarthoid insomniac.
>>124424174you are an extreme failure loser pajeet sister LOL
>>124424191I succeeded, swarthy insomniac.
>>124424201at being a tranny loser ROFLMAO
>>124424213That's what you succeed at, yes.
Dutoit is definitely the one for The Planets. I liked Karajan's VPO recording as well, especially his Venus, but in general he misses the mark tonally.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH38G-Sx7CE&list=PLjY-VMwEmi_ZOwL8RlfoRWhBMbvEUZ53h
>>124424226looks like you’re succeeding at illiteracy too, par for the course for an indian
>>124424236Ok, monolingual swarthy insomniac
now playingstart of Langgaard: Symphony No. 4, BVN 124, "Løvfald"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TInlHV76P8E&list=OLAK5uy_lPfesmi4zq6SLHFRoeZ9Nzoz0Dz6GqD7o&index=1>Langgaard (1893-1952) is slowly emerging as one of the major symphonists of this century; he is certainly one of the major composers of Denmark, right in line behind Nielsen. His Symphony 4 (1916), Fall of the Leaf, is a beautiful study of the forces of nature. Symphony 5 (1917-18), Nature of the Steppe, is more characteristically Nordic than anything particularly Mongol or Russian. The Symphony 6 (1949), Heavens Asunder, is about a cosmic battle between the forces of good and evil. These are major works, tonal and Romantic at their core. Excellent performances, excellent sound. --Paul Cook
>>124424261you would definitely count as monolingual since you can really only speak hindi, your command of the english language is basically nonexistent.
Thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mmRoU21psVvRkLaddkJhz15mM5s5zWzX0>>124424293Ok, monolingual swarthy insomniac
>>124424310Forgot pic
>>124424310thanks for the garbage, hindi tranny loser.
>>124424334You're welcome for the gold, swarthy insomniac.
>mentioning schoenberg anywhere for any reason>listening to music made by Jews based on music theories propagated by Jewish nepotismJesus fuck, get a real education.
>>124424346you misspelled "reeking rotting garbage", hindu tranny loser.
>>124424362I really didn't, swarthy insomniac.>>124424352Based.
>>124424369you actually did. you don't know the english language, so it's an understandable mistake, no need to be shy.
>>124424396Evidently I didn't, swarthy insomniac.
>>124422871this general is a constant contest to see who can talk the gayest isn't it
>>124424416yes, it's evident that you didn't and still don't know the english language, hindu loser.
>>124424467Sistersharter won that contest long ago.
>>124424352you are profoundly retarded.
>>124424483It's evident you're coping, swarthy insomniac.
>>124424486said the indian tranny loser LOL>>124424503it's evident that you're an illiterate indian loser LOL
>>124424515Quite evident that you're still coping, swarthy insomniac.
>>124424525quite evident that you're still an illiterate indian loser LOL
>>124424546Evidently still high on copium, swarthy insomniac.>>124424526That was after Parsifal, right?
>>124424525>>124424503>>124424486>>124424416>>124424369Kill yourself pajeet
>>124424562Nobody asked you, fartsniffer.
>>124424557you're evidently still an illiterate indian loser LOL
how do you think wagner’s asshole looked like
>>124424619blown out and leaky
>>124424617Ans you're evidently still swarthy and insomniac.>>124424619Wide and open because of Nietzsche
>>124424557>That was after Parsifal, right?It was after Wagner called him a wanker
>>124424310>>124424327Sounds fine. On one hand there are so many recordings that you have a buffet of selections from great conductors, but on the other hand all three ballets but this one especially seem to be works most professional conductors and orchestras can do well, so while I wasn't familiar with this guy before, looking him up and listening to it, it all seems fine.
>>124424672and you're evidently still an illiterate indian loser LOL
>>124424686Could you elaborate?>>124424692What's your most preferred for The Nutcracker and Swan Lake? I haven't listened to many.>>124424694Evidently still swarthy and insomniac
wagner tried to save music but failedschoenberg tried to save music but failed
Is it good or bad to be a rymsister? On that note, anyone has any electroacoustic works to recommend? Thanks
>>124424526As much as I like Nietzsche he was pretty afflicted by a need to not be "German," favoring a kind of pan-European identity. Of course then he would reject Wagner's pro-Germanism.
>>124424728In 1877, when Wagner and Nietzsche’s friendship was apparently in its pomp, but Nietzsche’s health was moving through an especially rocky patch, Wagner (a bullish individual, to put it mildly) instigated a correspondence with Nietzsche’s then-doctor, evincing a great deal of concern for his younger friend, but an arresting want of tact:>“In assessing Nietzsche’s condition I have long been reminded of identical or very similar experiences with young men of great intellectual ability. Seeing them laid low by similar symptoms, I discovered all too certainly that these were the effects of masturbation [by hiding under their bed, perhaps]. Ever since I observed Nietzsche closely, guided by such experiences, all his traits of temperament and characteristic habits have transformed my fear into a conviction.”Yes, what Herr Dr. Wagner wants to focus on is the possibility that Nietzsche was, in Wagner’s words, “a confirmed masturbator.”
>>124424728still an illiterate indian loser LOL>>124424738great questions RYMsister>>124424750trannies tend to be chronic masturbators, yes.
Wagner quite literally raped Nietzsche's mind.
>>124424728>What's your most preferred for The Nutcracker and Swan Lake? I haven't listened to many.Gergiev. You also can't go wrong with Ozawa and Pletnev. For just the suites, Karajan.
>>124424766Nietzsche wasn't a tranny.
>>124424730Tchaikovsky never tried but succeeded.Rachmaninoff never tried but succeeded.Scriabin tried and succeeded.>>124424750>Seeing them laid low by similar symptoms, I discovered all too certainly that these were the effects of masturbation lmao. Did he really masturbate?>>124424766Still swarthy, insomniac and unwanted.
>>124424796but wagner was.
>>124424786>GergievThanks.
>>124424823still an illiterate indian loser LOL
>>124424827Crossdresser, if anythingI think he had a fetish for fluffy fabricsBEGONE
>>124424845Eternally swarthy and insomniac.
>>124424786i'd laugh, gergiev is all illiterate indian losers deserve, if we're being honest. >>124424862eternally an illiterate indian loser LOL>>124424853>crossdresseraka a tranny.
>>124424750Literally every pilgrim that journeyed through /classical/ admitted to jerking off to Wagner at some point in their life.
>>124424873>gergiev is all illiterate indian losers deserveI already downloaded Abravanel's which is good enough, swarthy insomniac.
>>124424898of course, an illiterate third worlder like you wouldn't know that abravanel is a third rate conductor of a third rate flyover state orchestra.
Bach played on a 1640 harpsichordhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6F1PuM6HZ0&t=2092s
>>124424926Of course a swarthy insomniac wouldn't know what "good" even is.
>>124424944i'm sure third rate flyover state orchestras pass for good in india, LOL. the mumbai philharmonic isn't world famous for a reason.
>>124424981OK insomniac swarthoid.>>124424927>harpsichordTimbrally one of the most beautiful instruments.
>>124424988not that you would know, indian loser; they don't have harpsichords in new delhi LOL.
>>124425003A lot of harpsichords where I live, swarthy insomniac.
>>124425031sorry, but india isn't known for being a hotspot for harpsichord playing LOL
>>124425039Thankfully I'm not from there then, swarthy insomniac.
>>124424823>Did he really masturbateIs that a serious question? Do guys masturbate?
>>124425068Losers do, yes.
>>124425064you're not fooling anyone with such a bold faced lie LOL, we all know you're a stinky jeet
https://files.catbox.moe/g4mj6i.mp3
Cage - mushrooms Berg - fentanylLigeti - ketamineSchoenberg - dmtScriabin - weedShostakovich - heroinWebern - clonazepam Liszt - mdmaWagner - steroidsBartok - mescalineBeethoven - alcohol Gesualdo - absintheTchaikovksy - wineBach - coffeeXenakis - pcp
>>124425090Whatever makes you sleep at night swarthy insomniac lol.
>>124425091
>>124425102So all garbage?
>>124425106no, you being an indian doesn't "make" me sleep at night, you illiterate pajeet LOL
>>124425122Beethoven is garbage now?
>>124425102>alcohol>absinthe>wineAll the same drug
>>124425088There is nothing wrong with pleasuring yourself provided you don't do it on a regular basis.
>>124425173thanks coomer
>>124425173What is regular?
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA89mE11k7c
>>124424898sisteranon doesn't even like Russian music, you don't gotta worry about his opinions there. Gergiev does a great job in the Russian repertoire.
>>124422020>>124416325Thanks for both of these, please suggest more, it's difficult to discover good, lesser-known symphonies.
>>124425226lol, lmao, rofl even
https://files.catbox.moe/e7o2t7.mp3
>you're sure that it's open-minded, high-tech, I want to very slowly kill the person who typed that fukkking shit.
>>124425199>mackerrasMakes me want to vomit.
>>124425602>>124425633what does it mean
>>124425651Janacek is so based
>>124425651Mackerras is one of the worst examples of a conductor beating time and thinking he's done his job.
>>124425763okay but what in the heck does it mean? you're sure that it's open-minded, high-tech, [...] and capable of maintaining its function throughout declared emergencies? and, what other options are there for operas composed by janacek?
>>124425783>and, what other options are there for operas composed by janacek?Gregor
>>124425173there is nothing wrong with plreasuring yourself period.God-believers need not respond.
>>124426009thank you coomer
>>124426009>feeling the need to defend his masturbation habit on 4chan of all placesLmao
Wagnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH2ePEeMPR4
Scriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKa-hNQm-Q
>>124426261I don't wanna defend anything, I just want to attack moralists.
>>124426458thanks coomer
An evening for chamber music
>>124424927sounds like a revival one
>>124425344Stellar set.
>>124426009t. Nietzsche
Just discovered this short, wonderful orchestral chorus piece by Langgaard:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e300tMI9Vhc&list=OLAK5uy_kU6L3Q1zFsokoC1n0phDkHVnkzsaLJVJ8&index=5It'd work as a great opener for tons of symphonies.
>>124426458>i just want to attack people who are against masturbating on 4chanLmao, do you think that is any better?
>>124427560there's no way you laughed your ass off at his retort. why then did you submit an lmao?
I once masturbated during an opera session playing "Lohengrin". I usually don't reveal these secrets out in public, but this one deserves its recognition.
>>124427678I did indeed lmao at your response, and justifiably at that, because of the ridiculous lack of self-awareness in feeling the need to attack people who think masturbation is bad for whatever reason.
let's try<----start of Beethoven: 11 Bagatelles, Op. 119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL_o0K4Quc0&list=OLAK5uy_lMpq0ijdPAjX2X9Wb5PkYdcOizqt7WnUE&index=8>When we think of Beethoven and the piano, his monumental thirty-two sonatas come to mind. They have often been referred to as the 'New Testament' to Bach's 'Old Testament,' the Well-Tempered Clavier. However, over a period of decades, Beethoven constantly returned to the genre of the bagatelle. He called them 'trifles,' but this small form par excellence actually meant a great deal to him. As with the sonata, Beethoven laid the foundations for a flourishing new genre of piano miniatures. Whether they last a few minutes or a few seconds, these Bagatelles are masterpieces, rendered with in all their brief perfection by the infallible Paul Lewis.love Beethoven's Bagatelles, and generally have a good experience with Paul Lewis' recordings
>>124427342It's a shame that more music like this isn't played all that much. The concerts just stick with the same old boring repertoire that's been overplayed for decades - I guess it's easy for the program directors.
>>124427560yes, being against masturbation means you're probably a retarded tradfag
A night for early music
best Bruckner 2 3 6 and 7? any of his revisions is fine
>>124427287Sorry I can only wish I were that based
>>124429494so true coomer
Seven (!) discs for Mozart quartets
>>124425134Whatever makes you sleep at night swarthy insomniac lol.>>124425173It's pointless and damaging. Find other happiness in life.
>>124430890no, you being an indian doesn't "make" me sleep at night, you illiterate pajeet LOL
>>124430969Sleep "well", swarthy insomniac lmao.
>>124431002sorry, i don’t take orders from indians LOL, nobody does
>>1244298433: Sinopoli, Tintner, Karajan, Szell6: Tintner, Stein, Sawallisch7: Karajan/Vienna, Skrowaczewski, JochumBruckner is one of those where there are tons of great recordings for each and they all sound different, his music really lends itself to a multitude of distinct interpretative approaches and working well.
>>124430367Talich is great for Mozart. I haven't heard those early string quartets though, hope they're good!
>>124431056Wouldn't help even if your massa ordered you, swarthy insomniac lmao.
>>124431056>>124431793Both of you shut the fuck up and stop filling up the thread with your useless posts. Please just shut up. Please.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUodIfaLylE
I am not listening to any kind of "music" created by Jews like Wagner and Brahms.
>124432881bait is supposed to be believable.
Well put Wagnersister.
if your favourite composer never composed a string quartet then he's shit.
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT4aYl_kVxg
>>124433611The fuck is that cover, looks like the statue is taking the fattest shit in his life
>David’s interest in the revival of the art of classical improvisation has been an important part of his international career as a concert pianist. In his solo and chamber music performances worldwide, David incorporates extemporisation into the repeats, eingangs and cadenzas of relevant concert repertoire, as well as improvising preludes, interludes, fantasias and variations on themes provided by the audience. >Yehudi Menuhin’s response to David Dolan’s CD When Interpretation and Improvisation Get Together was: “David Dolan is giving new life to classical music.” Does anyone have this CD? Quite literally can't find it anywhere, there's not even a discogs page.
Newmanhttps://youtu.be/T-0FdOv_mtw
What's your favorite Wagner opera?
>>124434384All of wagners works are one giant opera, the symphony in c major is the overture
/QUEEN/
>>124434487the guy kneeling is a homosexual who probably eats the buttholes of men, while the girl nearest to the piano is a slut.
>>124434566Correction: she is the queen of /classical/ and that man is every and each one of us in this general.
now playingWalton: Symphony No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXuVWoS5Iw&list=OLAK5uy_mEHlUvjcYeE0MLrZJiu5gGtSml6JfJLFE&index=1>Walton's First Symphony burst onto the scene in 1935 and was quickly recognized as a masterpiece. A remarkable achievement for a composer of 33 years, his second symphony was mature and refined, showcasing a composer at the top of his game. It was unjustly overshadowed by its older sibling and appeared dated when compared to the avant garde styles popular in the late 50's and early 60's. Today, it is recognized as a masterpiece to rank alongside the first. These high voltage performances from Kirill Karabits and the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra confirm the enduring legacy of both works.The fourth movement is mistakenly labeled as part of some Symphony no. 4 when it's really just the fourth movement to this one, the first.
>>124434655
>>124434779Me and anon
For some reason comparing Bach to bread offends me.
now playingstart of Shostakovich: String Quartet No. 5 in B-Flat Major, Op. 92https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDYd-cXTCc&list=OLAK5uy_lJbK-emb8ZkD2lOX4ApZ21iYWpEXaschk&index=18
>>124435548have you, in your miserable and pathetic life, ever made bread?
>>124427072what apostrophe s is so stellar about it?
>>124434151it's called inspiration
What do you all think of Brautigam's D.960?https://youtu.be/q0FSLYmkMMw?si=UHHSJG4xTE7UwqVV
>>124435813No but I bred your mother.
>>124431793sorry, i’m not indian like you, the rest of us don’t have “massas” LOL>>124431725claiming that all of these recordings sound radically different when they can all be broadly described as slow, brassy, and loud is pretty funny. >>124434779no idea where the meme that faggots can dress well came from, these two look like fucking morons
>>124435915my mother is not like a loaf of bread. she is a terrible person whose amoral attitude has led her down a path of gluttony and other vices. the comment you made over being offended by comparing bach to the characteristics of bread, in light of your confession, is notably shallow and lacking any meaningful intent. those attributes, that of being shallow and lacking any meaningful intent, are so much like my mother that i bet you two get along just fine.
>>124436048>claiming that all of these recordings sound radically different when they can all be broadly described as slow, brassy, and loud is pretty funny.I just meant Bruckner recordings in general, that they shouldn't just take any 'best' list as gospel.
What are some non-HIP recordings of Vivaldi, Telemann, Handel and Bach concertos that are actually decent?And to define non-HIP, anything that isn't horrified to do string vibrato.
>>124436540
Rudi Stephan: Music for Orchestrahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtQiz5Li89IIf you're interested in Mahler, Early Schoenberg and more generally late German romanticism, check it out.
>>124420490BWV 721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzQLq1jsU0
>>124437632praying mantis looking bitch and awful HIPster garbage
>>124437652Shut the fuck up you god-awful nerd
>>124437700thanks HIPster coomer sister
Paganinihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJKNKuI2B6g
>>124435719I have this. Still dont get Shosta, but will keep it around for another try.
>>124438246you're wasting your time forcing yourself to like bad music.
>>124438287As opposed to being in 4canal dot org
>>124438343at least on here you're discussing music. what do you get out of forcefeeding shitty music you've already heard and don't like down your gullet for a 15th time?
>>124438405I'm on my first listening, so I think it deserves a second one. Not today, but some day in the future. And music in the background while you read a book is not forcing anything.I think you really despise his music, thats fine.
And now, some Bach
>>124438551you’ve heard tons of shostakovich’s music multiple times, you’ve disliked the vast majority of it, and yet you still insist on forcing yourself to listen to it in spite of already knowing that your track record with him has been awful. the definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over expecting different results. >I think you really despise his musicas it turns out, normal people tend to dislike bad music.
>>124424853That's what they called trannies back then.
>>124438596>you’ve heard tons of shostakovich’s music multiple timesNo, I don't. Are you on drugs or something?
>>124438651bro, you post all the time about hearing new shostakovich pieces and not liking them lol. get real.
>>124438246Oh you were the one you posted it the other day? I saw your post and when looking for a different set to try, saw it and figured I'd give it a listen. I love his string quartets but I'd probably recommend his popular symphonies and concertos to start out with first, like the 5th, 7th, and 10th symphonies, and cello concerto no. 1. Again though, if you're not feeling it, then also try putting it down for a little while and listen to other stuff before giving it another try.
>>124438651let's unpack that xer. sister claims that you have heard tons of compositions (if they can be called that dot dot dot) from shostakovich multiple times. tons could mean a large number of his music, but large could also be relative to someone's experience. for example, sister may charge more than two or even one as large. the word multiple is much more easier to understand. it means more than once. are you sure you're not pretending, so as to save face, to not have listened to more than two compositions from shostakovich more than once?
>>124438729>>124438793I'm pretty sure the anon just started posting here, you guys are tripping.
>>124438810i haven't tripped in over 12 years. i don't do drugs nor do i drink. i'm better than you.
After "his" death in Venice, the world should have ended. Lets be honest... who else mattered anyways? Life existed only when Wagner breathed air. What you experience right now is secondary.
>>124438810newness has nothing to do with frequency of posting in a period of time
>>124438846Pretty sure I've seen them mention that one string quartet recording once, and then the 24 Preludes and Fugues once.
>>124438869>them
>>124438869he’s definitely mentioned orchestral music before.
now playingstart of Elgar: Introduction and Allegro, Op. 47https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=towJM1aPa_Q&list=OLAK5uy_m42ZJmTI082P2dch6KgK_dS1wlscrtf38&index=2start of Violin Concerto in B Minor, Op. 61https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsxnWd8vafc&list=OLAK5uy_m42ZJmTI082P2dch6KgK_dS1wlscrtf38&index=4Can't stop listening to Elgar, his music is hitting the spot so perfect lately.
Nah, Im the plexamp anon. The only set I have, and the only time I have listened to Shosta was picrel a few days ago. Anyway, here ends this conversation for me guys, will post later about other subjects.
>Gould was a very stern and hard man to impress. He often showed symptoms of misanthropy and denial of the social life. "Bach" was the only force that could draw Gould out of Gould as in a real friendship with the great composer. One day I found he was playing something other than Bach. It was strange. It was "Wagner"... I couldn't believe it. This was not your ordinary Gould. The door was unlocked and when I stepped in I saw a completely different Gould.... he was completely stark naked and masturbating as he played Die Meistersinger.
>>124438998lol
>>124420490you are all brown.
>>124439257cry about it
>>124439257Post hands over a piano.
>>124439257put your trip back on, pedophile kraut
i may have been thoroughly dissatisfied with tower record's handling of kubelik's dvorak, however, if my call to action concerning vaughan williams 2022 remaster is not heeded in the next few weeks there will be consequenceshttps://www.discogs.com/release/23524385-Vaughan-Williams-London-Philharmonic-Orchestra-New-Philharmonia-Orchestra-Sir-Adrian-Boult-The-Compl
>>124439339it's time for you to come to terms with the fact that tower records remasterings are just not that good.
>>124439339I'm also interested in this.
>>124439367put your trip back on, pedophile kraut
Schizo tennis is back. See you in the next thread.
>>124438998This never happened
https://files.catbox.moe/p6mkdd.mp3 barbshttps://files.catbox.moe/a0gali.mp3 collingwood
>>124439540Hadn't heard this before, loved it, thanks. Similar to how I discovered Vaughan Williams' Partita for String Orchestra the other day and loved it.
>>124420490So what food would be:>Beethoven >Wagner>Mahler>Schubert >Brahms?
>>124439540What are these? Sample pieces from your collection?
>>124433501>R. relates that it was maintained in the Musikalische Zeitung that he (R.) was no true musician; the proof of that could be seen in his never having ventured into the field of the symphony. “Well,” R. says, “I should like to know who has ever written a symphony, except for Beethoven! How idiotic to make a generic term out of one man’s most individual characteristic, as if everybody had to write symphonies like that.”
>>124439613Tracks from those recordings in his collection, yeah. You can see what pieces they are from the name in the catbox link image in the picture (Elgar's Dream Children).
Bernstein's Sibelius with Vienna finally got uploaded onto YouTube Music :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvdq9pETLU&list=OLAK5uy_mIMG8tFoqClEnNd1Zpn7i2AnziiwOaz24&index=28
>>124439633Cool, thanks. Always nice when anons go out of their way to share something.
>>124439605Wagner would be water. One cannot live without either.
>>124439674Is YTM good for classical? Other platforms are awful for tagging classical when you search for specifics or whole collections.
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCKVPOwZ2aomaybe the best rendition i've heard of
>>124439703There are some problems, like say if I wanted to look at all of the Brahms recordings I had in my library, it's terrible for that (in which case I'd have to search for it again normally, unless I added or listened to it recently), but otherwise I think it's great, it's how I listen to almost all of my classical music and other music when I'm out and about and listening to music on my phone.The unpaid version isn't too bad for at-home use but it's in 128kps and there's noticeable pauses between tracks while it loads the next one. IIRC, if you wanna try it out, the first time you download and use the app on your phone, I think like the fifth time you open it or so, they'll offer you a two-week free trial, and then there's a one-time month free trial offer that's always available. Definitely worth the $15 or so a month I spend on it, especially because I used to have an extensive offline music collection before it got destroyed, and I can't be bothered to ever rebuild it again outside of downloading recordings I can't find elsewhere.
>>124439703>>124439810Oh, and the paid version only goes up to 256kps, since I know that's a dealbreaker for some.
>>124439703there are no good streaming services.
>>124439810>>124439849Thanks for the in depth response anon. I like my plex because curating my library is a comfy hobby on its own. I also like the "play random album" feature. Lots of platforms and players simply cant into random albums. And about quality I dont care that much. Im happy with good flacs as well as 320 mp3s.
>>124439949Here's one. It's called the radio.
>>124440054Anytime. And for sure, each have their own pros and cons, whatever works for ya'!>>124440072got 'em
>>124440072radio is a whole category of platform in and of itself, not an individual service, and there aren’t even good radio stations anymore anyways.
>>124440072The one with ads? No thanks.Just kidding I like BBC classical and random classical stations on Radio Garden.
>>124440095>and there aren’t even good radio stations anymore anyways.How so? The hosts are annoying and unqualified? They have poor taste in music and recordings?
>[R.] comes to the subject of Nietzsche, who, out of sheer malice toward him, distorts the passage he wrote in his Beethoven about the way B. listened to folk melodies, [See Der Wanderer und sein Schatten, §152 (The Wanderer and His Shadow, §152).] and he did it just in order to denigrate R., "ignoring the fact that Beethoven was the greatest melodist who ever lived. The way he took a folk tune and gave it back to the people, transfigured–it was like the condescension of a god, like the unknown maiden appearing to the shepherd. And to rank him on that account somewhere below Schubert! What Schubert was, B. had long known all about. Disgraceful—and so stupid!" [See Der Wanderer und sein Schatten, §155 (The Wanderer and His Shadow, §155).]>In the evening [R.] plays and sings An die entfernte Geliebte [Beethoven, Op. 98] to us, greatly moving us with it. "The whole of Schubert can be found in this," he says, and that brings him on to Nietzsche's maliciousness (about Schubert and Beeth.) and the whole dismal experience!
>>124440112a little bit of both. plus, i’d rather have a say in what i want to listen to and by who instead of having it forced down my throat.
>>124439377have you heard the performances from brappins w/ the bbc of vaughan william's symphonies? they were released in 2020 on hyperion comma are they any good?
let's try<-----start of Tchaikovsky: Concerto for Violin and Orchestra in D Major, Op. 35, TH 59https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176ZO9pZGEc&list=OLAK5uy_mxubUKNhiL0fMMrWh42wxPnGwboNoqp7w&index=2start of Sibelius: Concerto for Violin and Orchestra in D Minor, Op. 47https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGZh_VivKa4&list=OLAK5uy_mxubUKNhiL0fMMrWh42wxPnGwboNoqp7w&index=4>Violinist Lisa Batiashvili teams up with Daniel Barenboim and the Staatskapelle Berlin for an unforgettable version of Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D Major (Op. 35) and Sibelius' Violin Concerto in D minor (Op. 47), two of the most beloved, passionate and demanding pieces for violin and orchestra. This is Daniel Barenboim's first ever recording of Tchaikovsky's famous and romantic violin concerto.>Lisa Batiashvili was the ferocious soloist in Tchaikovsky s Violin Concerto, intense in the first movement, luminous and heartfelt in the second, scintillating in the quickfire finale. It was a faultless performance, enthralling and electrifying. --The Guardian
>>124440152I have not, my range of different recordings for Vaughan Williams is pretty small, just the same usual big names everyone has heard, eg Andrew Davis, Handley, Previn, Slatkin.
>>124440132Historically speaking, Wagner is literally the greatest artist to walk the face of the earth.
>>124440152>brappinsjesus christ what an unfortunate name
>>124440215Memorable, though. Like Pappano.
>Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven played with fidelity to their own style and periods:|>Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven played like Brahms:)
>>124440290no one plays brahms like brahms anymore though
What's the right way to scrobble classical music? eg if I want to scrobble Dover Quartet's performance of Shostakovich String Quartet No. 8 is there an agreed-upon form?
>>124441035fart
>>124441035I haven't used last.fm in forever but looking around at some examples, I guess just there's no much you can do to differentiate between different recordings. For example, taking a look at this one:https://www.last.fm/music/Dmitri+Shostakovich/Shostakovich:+Symphony+Nos.+5+&+9/Symphony+No.+5+in+D+Minor,+Op.+47:+I.+Moderatoshows 130 albums with the track! Maybe tagging it as "Dmitri Shostakovich; Dover Quartet"? That's how I personally label my stuff, with composer and primary performer (so conductor or string ensemble), but I don't know how that plays out for scrobbling.
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONaE3AvToVU
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 10 in E Minor, Op. 93https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4dfT3RHeE&list=OLAK5uy_lgQ55qDged7sC7eqQede4OAoR0TxOxuzA&index=1>Shostakovich's 10th Symphony subsumes the composer's confrontation with Stalin and the Stalin years, even if experts disagree on how it should be interpreted. Even after 1945, despite of the war that had been won, life in the Soviet Union became no easier. Dmitri Shostakovich also suffered from the repression during Stalin's reign of terror. He had been accused of formalism since 1936, and had had to withdraw his Fourth Symphony as a result. He has also failed to produce the triumphant music expected of him following the victory over Nazi Germany: his grotesque Ninth Symphony was far removed from this and also contained hidden but sharply critical references to Stalin. After suffering humiliation in the course of the "anti-Formalist" purges of 1948, during which he was relieved of his teaching posts, Shostakovich withdrew from public life. Immediately after Stalin's death on March 5, 1953, he was able to bring forth a significant number of serious works that he had shelved and that were all awaiting either premieres or rehabilitation. His Tenth Symphony- composed between July and October 1953- was premiered on December 17, 1953 by the Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra. Mariss Jansons considers Dmitri Shostakovich to be one of the most serious and sincere composers ever, and finds the fifteen symphonies in particular to be deeply moving and captivating. He sees their music as bearing shattering testimony to a traumatic era of political darkness, while remaining a timeless expression of existential human feeling and experience.>talk about Shostakovich's music without rambling about his biography and Stalinism challenge (impossible!)About time I start trying 10ths that weren't just Karajan's and Petrenko's, and this one is really nice so far.
>>124420490gayest r*dditor-slop "comic" I've seen posted online.
>>124441575but enough about (Y*u)
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIsmpqo8SFQ
>>124441590go back.
>>124441464shostakovich fans are genuinely low IQ
>>124441955The 10th is incredible
>>124442048incredibly shit.
What the fuck was Hunding‘s problem?
>>124442407He was a chud.
>>124442407He was too basedHurwitz is right in that all the "villains" in Wagnerian operas are way more sympathetic than the protagonists
>>124442438>every jewish person's reaction to wagner's villains
>>124436103The original analogy is comparing bread to Bach, not the process of making bread you midwit.
>>124442522Hunding did nothing wrong tho
>>124442407Not gonna lie, the plot Walkure feels a bit awkward when you have a female twin
>>124442638anyone who has ever made bread would know that not all bread is made the same. for example, a breads dough could have been mishandled or it hadn't enough time to let rise. perhaps its yeast or sourdough took a turn for the worse. these are but some of the conditions that bread has to face before being compared to bach. in other words comma the qualities that make bread what it is greatly depend on the prep work involved. bread is not something you rush. it takes time, patience and a little courage comma things that you and my mother could only dream of obtaining. specifically, the ability to be patient, to be courageous, to know when and how long to observe, and finally, to know never to separate the way things are made, when comparing the characteristics of things, from their final form.
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>>124442806Again, the comparison is not the process of making bread to Bach you midwit.
>>124442438>Hurwitz is right-stopped therealso, stop bringing him up.
>>124442407>guy stops your friends' wedding where he's innocently marrying a woman against her will>same guy invades your home where you innocently abuse your wife>dares to spend time talking with her all alone where she might COMPLAIN about youSiegmund had to die.
And now, Beethoven to close the thread
>>124443283good choice of recording
>>124443283Terrible choice of recording
>>124443283great choice of recording
>>124438998This happened. It fucking happened.
Noticing some recordings have Bruckner's 5th with the title "Phantastische," where did that come from?
>>124444082the record label's asshole
>>124436048Evidently you are, swarthy insomniac.
>>124444326sorry, i’m not indian like you, i don’t have a british “massa” like your kind does LOL
>>124444345Evidently you do, swarthy insomniac
>>124444378sorry, i’m not indian like you, i don’t have a british “massa” like your kind does LOL
>>124444389Obviously you do, swarthy insomniac
>>124444401sorry, i’m not indian like you, i don’t have a british “massa” like your kind does LOL
>>124444414Obviously you do, swarthy insomniac
>>124444556>>124444556>>124444556NEW THREAD
Whenever I think about what you two are doing day-in-and-day-out from a detached perspective, I can't help but crack up.
>>124444548this may be a surprise to you, but normal people don't have "massas", just indian slaves like you LOL.
>>124444580And you do have massa, swarthy insomniac
>>124443283awful choice, takacs fucking sucks in Beethoven.
bad genre imo
>>124443080retard
>>124443080>maybe if i repeat myself i won't have to address anon's arguement
