Guadalajaran Grind editionFAQ: https://pastebin.com/vHeAR1BtOld: >>124415377
first for batlord
>>124437435This is the pinnacle of gothic metal
>>124437442what is he holding?
>>124437466giant turkey leg that's on fire
Death - Leprosy
BLASTING WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BLASTING POST BLASTS BLAST BLAST BLAST BLAST
>>124437442Correct.
>>124437136>the art of partying, which was a big step down from hazardous mutationYou are correct but that album was their peak. That being said their only not good album is Waste in space. I love all their other stuff.
>>124437498greatest melodeath record
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Daughter/3540541799P O W E R F U L
Melodic death metal sounds like a great idea in theory but in practice... eh, not so much. :(
>Readmitted to school>All expenses will be covered by the school/government ($40k+ per semester)Metal for this jubilation?
>>124437544At the Gates did the whole ouroboros on us, Slaughter of the Soul is the only album of that kind to be considered.
>>124437561weirdly enough I prefer the black dahlia murder even though they started out as a deliberate at the gates ripoff band
>>124437558
>>124437561>Slaughter of the SoulI loved The Red in the Sky is Ours and subsequently hated SotS. It's this exact style of melodeath that just sounds like metalcore to me without the breakdowns. Just boring, washed out death metal to me
>>124437598Sorry when I listened to SotS metalcore didn't exist and I still don't understand what Metalcore is supposed to be.I looked it up and sometimes it's just hardcore with solos and death metal vocals, sometimes it's heavy metal with death vocals, sometimes it's melodeath with breakdowns, etc...
Gorguts - Obscura
>>124437628it's OK but I don't get the hype
>>124437619Metalcore existed before SotS but it sounded much different to what people think metalcore is today.
>>124437650I get it, but "old" Metalcore was Metal + Hardcore in a way that didn't really fit "crossover", and had nothing to do with At the Gates.Now Metalcore doesn't make sense as a genre or subgenre hence why I don't get it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46u_Ggsub1Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46u_Ggsub1A
Imagine if the human race was just a reality TV show for the greys>THIS SEASON ON HUMANITY: THE MALES DOUBLE DOWN ON THINKING THEY'RE FEMALES AND GO AS FAR AS TO MUTILIATE THEIR OWN GENITIALS—PAID FOR BY TAXPAYER MONEY
This album fucking sucks and I'm tired of saying otherwise
https://vocaroo.com/1olghgIxNJNA
>>124437716South park imagined that like 20 years ago.
>>124437718Correct.
>>124437716if they still listen to Metallica and Iron Maiden they deserve a nuke or a thousand.
>>124437728>i can't believe we sucked each other's jagons!
>>124437728Simpsons did it first
>>124437736Maiden rocks, faggot
Iron Maiden albums that should be listened to:>Iron Maiden>Killers>X Factor>Virtual XIIron Maiden albums that should be ignored>the rest
>>124437544Well, if it sounded more like >>124437516 or even >>124437449 it would be much better. Too bad most band try ripping off SotS.
>>124437736>if they still listen to Metallica and Iron Maiden they deserve a nuke or a thousand.both of these bands are responsible for most of the shit you listen to today you ungrateful zoomer faggot
>>124437771did Bruce fuck your mom?
>>124437771dance of death mogs
>>124437628kys
Metalcore is shit like Merauder and early Walls of jericho. Slayer thrash riffs with breakdowns.Melodic metalcore takes everything from Slaughter of the soul and adds breakdowns to it e.g. the first Parkway drive album. But now it has been bastardized even further with clean singing choruses and shit.
>>124437779Heavy Metal, Thrash Metal, Power Metal, Speed Metal were essentially created by Judas Priest before Maiden stopped touring clubs and released their first demo, Extreme Metal was inspired by Venom and Motorhead.Iron Maiden is the normie cop out.
>>124437809>Extreme Metal was inspired by Venom and Motorhead.fuck off hector
Incantation - Onward to Golgotha
Also I just checked and fucking Terror is on MA, lol. Not Madball though...who play the same fucking style of hardcore/metalcore since like 2000.
>>124437498blasting my throat with coffee at noon>>124437598SotS sounded great the first time and got worse the more I relistened, still not awful though. Meanwhile TRITSIO and WFIKTBD are massive growers.
Ladies and djentlemen, the first hardcore punk song from '78:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjiTzVyXRFE
>>124437817Of course there is the shadow of Judas Priest especially over Death Metal, and there are multiple minor bands in between Motorhead and Venom, but they are the core sources.Even the "classic Maiden Sound" is just Judas Priest's Stained Class declined over and over.
>>124437803>Melodic metalcore That's what I should said earlier when I wrote that SotS sounds like metalcore to me. The stuff with the clean singing is even worse.
>merauder mentionedBASEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES9IzkdNTo0
>>124437852Kinda crazy to think this album, that shits all over the Ramones, was recored in '78.I feel like the whole history of music would have been totally different if they found a label back then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiD6AI1lElIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUAvjD5mePE
Is there any band that every regular in this thread can agree on as kicking ass?
>>124437498peak album art right here
>>124437917>shits all over the RamonesWrong. But it is a good album nonetheless. Danzig has a great voice but is overrated btw.>>124437899Hell yeah!
Snoree Ruch invented metal music
>>124437449uh
>>124437954>he doesnt know
>>12443797290% filler, like all Type O albums
>>124437958
>>124437954Satanic Warmaster.
>>124437967Wut if anything Danzig is underrated, he had to carry the entire Misfits on his back creating his own label, same with Samhain, and only got noticed 20 years later, and the first 4 Danzig album are the pinnacle of bluesy Metal.Like, the dude printed his own vinyl for 20 years and was underground, how the fuck is he overrated, if anything Misfits only got mainstream recognition through Metallica despite being the root of so much and Samhain, probably one of the greatest Rock/Post Punk (literally) bands ever, is till fucking underground.
>>124438026If only more people actually listened to the Misfits instead of just buying their T-shirts
>>124438026I wanted to reply to this honestly but then I read that you think the fucking Misfits are underrated? Doesn't matter that they changed singers as many poser bitches wear the t-shirt with that fucking skull as the Iron maiden posers. Also, Danzig the band is a huge name. How the fuck is he underrated?As I've said he has a great voice but I don't like that he tries so much to mimic Elvis. Graves mogs him. Famous monsters is the best Misfits album followed by Walk among us.
>>124437954I nominate Slayer, Morbid Angel, and Mayhem
>>124436381> Doubt I have anything to rec you haven't checkedEh I have a lot of blind spots these days because I've been slowly clipping out what genres I pay attention too. This year for instance I haven't even really looked at progressive metal besides following bands I already know such as Aquilus/Night Verse. The only genres I look at anymore are dissonant or neoclassical. Been moving over to a lot of actual classical in the meantime since there is more to learn about there compared to metal which has too many repetitions and a lack of development. Listening to your whole chart atm, I actually have been ignoring the avant scene a lot recently (since dissonance is basically no longer tied to its perception) so its a nice kick in my ass to go check it out more. >Siderean This is a bit of an interesting band for their place in relation to the perception of others, its interesting in that dissonance is now so accepted into metal that something like this doesn't even garner a dissonant death subtag on RYM anymore. There is that forced meme going around about "safe horny", which I guess this is like "safe dissonance" ala Immolation, where even old bald men can figure it out. Selbst is like the black metal version of that or something. >Ingurgitating OblivionThis one I had istened to before and had me really hyped at that time. It was really really good, maybe even equal to Imperial Triumphant - however the lead work is just unforgivable, sounds like someone was just told to shred some random scales and then they were edited in at the whim of a dartboard or dice roll. I've never heard an album so utterly ruined by leads like that before, truly a crime to have done that to the record. I can only assume it was improvised or something, at least I hope so.>夢遊病者This is pretty cool actually, thanks. I think in the past I would be more pointed about if this fulfills the ethos of metal, but I hardly care anymore, regular metal is simply too boring.
>>124438099>Famous monsters is the best Misfits album
>>124438126>Slayeryes>Morbid Angelhahahaha no>Mayhemalso no
The holy trinity of high test metal:SlayerMotorheadRazorThis is literally non-negotiable. (You get a huge bonus for also liking early WASP.)
Morbid Angel mogs your favorite band.
>>124438157I hope you meant>Pantera>Superjoint Ritual>Scour
>>124437498
>>124438157I have never met a Motorhead fan who wasn't a weird giga autistic sperg and I mean autism in the actual sense of the term. Not even hating Motorhead but just a weird observation I had
>>124438144Correct. If you have any problems with my statement I'll fight you ass naked, bitch.
>>124438157Thank you shreddit sister.
>>124438157I hope you meant>Liturgy>Deafheaven>Deftones
>>124438175literally who? sorry we don't care about your bandcamp bands
>>124438200ULTRA BASED
>>124438207>sorry we don't care about your bandcamp bandsCorrect, here on shreddit we don't listen to anything that isn't tourism. HEIL!
>>124438191I wouldn't fight with anyone that cares about the Graves era, I don't want to catch AIDS.
I knew I'd immediately rustle the jimmies of the bmcel posers here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC2ZdYz-nCM
>>124438225>MUH FIGHTING OVER A SINGERare you a teenage girl?
>>124438235>GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYER
>>124438235I don't get Slayer.I like early Metallica, early Antrhax, early Exodus, /Megadeth, / Overkill, /Testament, / Kreator, Sadus, Destruction, Mekong Delta, etc... but I don't get Slayer.Araya is shit, Hanneman could write riffs but King ruined everything, and their drummers are not really noticeable.
>>124438249I'm not the one that wants to fight, take it up with >>124438191
Possessed - Seven Churches
Seven Spires, Seven Churches, Seven Chalices... what next?
>>124437958I think it's too highly regarded. It's good but not THAT good.
>Hector earlier today: I’m fucking done with 4chan>Hector 2 hours later: *autistic screeching*
>>124437498https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFVJ501hSA
>>124438267>Hanneman could write riffs0-0-0-0-0-0 writes itself.
>>124438322seven autistic faggots to ruin /metal/
>>124438341I personally think that without French autists that kind of music would have died 20 years ago.
>>1244383612easy.
>>124438267>Araya is shitliterally one of the best voices in metal, he has the perfect thrash voice
>>124438283*thinking emoji*
>>124438432more like the perfect trash voice lmao
holy shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzGIk5_pm6o
>>124438465I love it but I think most people here don't
>>124438477those are called posers
There is a pov video of Alura Jenson where she says something along the lines (while sucking dick) that "my tits are big, my ass is huge and what's bigger is my personality". I want a self conscious non-retarded bimbo like her in my life. Too bad I'm a skinny virgin nerd.Now check this out:ÖÜGHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAWS0axinfQ
>>124438525porn is unmetal, poser
>>124438525kys
Favourite metal vocalists, let's go. I have the best taste here but I'm curious about the pleb shit you like.Halfordvan DrunenSchuldinerMessiah MarcolinLindbergthe dude in Visigoth (new album when??)
>>124438594Faggot.
124438567wiggerchads, obliterate this peasant please
>vocalists>lyricsnot metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67Osl3L4g0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67Osl3L4g0
>>124438630>riffs>melodies>chorus>symphoniesnot metal
>>124438630>>124438650Correct, also solos.
>>124438157Safe picks, but I can't argue with them at all.Also booba>>124438190Makes sense, routine is comforting to autists.
BOLT THROWER
>guitars>bass>drumswood
>>124438666>THROUGH MANS EXISTENCE FROM THE START OF TIME>FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL IS OUR ONLY CRIME
>>124438622WIGGER SLAMMERS ASSEMBLE
>>124437767>>124437779>>124438348>>124438609L for homophobia
>>124438698>L for homophobia
>be a complete shitter and love this song>eh, this song shouldn't be too hard>look up the tab and a rhythm guitar playthrough>uhhhhhhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvunO056b4M
>>124438128Night Verse are surprisingly captivating for that vein of instrumental wank yeah. Aquilus didn't make as much of an impression on me is time but I didn't dive deep on it. I hear ya, I enjoy straight black/death done well like those on your chart but far too much is generic and rote. doom, folk, pagan etc are no different but I'm a bit more forgiving and endeared to their novelty and penchant for emotive female vox as seen in the rest of my chart. >Siderean yeah the tech/prog duo is a pretty convenient combo that I run into more and more usually to intriguing results, sort of bridges over dissonance, the post-post trend that just won't die but hey it's better than djent or the melo culdesac. >IOeh that's often the nature of the beast isn't it, how many of these groups pumping out 20m behemoths really utilize composition. still I find them harrowing 夢遊病者 aka Sleepwalkers, check the LP form last year, it's even more abstract and noisey but excellent
vault played inside of Dead Rising GVV drop
this kills the poserHEILhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAC6P96Xl4M
>>124438718do you do anything else other than talking to yourself? what's you opinion on Chelsea Wolfe?
>>124438777They have total "local no name band" flair to them, the shitty production, the super basic riffs that are repeated endlessly, the vocals that sound like they were a last minute addition
>>124438811Kek
>>124438811she's no Julie Christmas
JUDASFUCKINGPRIESThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0
I would almost go to this but I can't imagine having to sit through SFU to see Nile. Hopefully we get an annihilation of the wicked 20 year anniversary tour next year.
>>124438718>>124438128btw did you catch Midnight Odyssey's triple LP at the tail end of last year? Biolume pt 3I have a hunch you disdain symphonic but speaking of composition he really leans into that 70s prog cosmic-concept album to great effect, one of my favorites in recent memory.
>>124438594Hansi KürschDioWarrel DaneKat KatzAldrahnRoman KostrzewskiNenad KovačevićPatrik MennanderRainer LandfermannCsihar AttilaDave HuntJake RogersMorikawa YukioTim BakerPaul EvoKalapács JózsefLord WormSzturpakJon OlivaKonstanz (Tobias Schönemann)
>>124438957>Kalapács JózsefI still can't believe people outside this country listen to this shit. I hear almost any song in my language and I bail.
>>124438339>Orbitor two days ago: heh crying to the janny are we????>Orbitor today: JAAAAAANNY SAAAAAAAAAAAVE ME >>124438359Gotta laugh at that weeping numale, 2easy. >>124436381>Piah MaterSuper Opeth, nice stuff, I could probably listen to one hundred Opeth style bands and not really hate it. >Ætheria ConscientiaSome alright chords, horns, and prog metal... but you know honestly these days the second I hear double bass drum + steady snare + single voice tremolo line all repeated over and over again I just want to retch. Black metal is so formulaic and uninteresting to me, can't stand listening to such lazy nonsense, especially when its not even about aggression. Atmospheric BM is every bad aspect of black metal, only emphasized. Did you listen to the new Paysage? I thought it was fucking awful, think I gave it like a 1/10 or something. I wish Aquilus would drop the tropes that come from the genre, honestly I probably overate them these days from my nostalgia, but obviously for most others its still a good rec. It could honestly be said at this point I would just prefer these guys to drop the "black metal" entirely and simply commit to playing prog. Nothing good about splicing in some lazy BM in between better music.>SumacToo repetitive, all atmospheric metal is an incoherent mess; for it is too boring to listen to if you pay attention, but as metal it demands your attention anyways, especially with the banging gimmick percussion the genre is hypnotized by, so it fails to accomplish being furniture music. The jazz idea of a riff providing a beat and then improving on top tends to result in a feeling of the static, as in non-movement. Its like a virtual racing car simulator, sure it feels like something is going on, but then you realize you are just sitting still in your car with a vibrating seat and flashing blurry monitors. That being said, if you are into improvisation... Have you listened to Mastery yet?https://youtu.be/PwkStxVoUCs?t=6
For me? It's Wormphlegm
>>124438339He has zero self control.It would be more feasible to get a My 600lb conestant to stop eating sweet than to get that no-life failure to ever stop coming here. He has nowhere else to go.
>>124439046Correct.
>>124439038Agreed. In an Excruciating Way Infested with Vermin and Violated by Executioners Who Practise Incendiarism and Desanctifying the Pious is a fantastic record.
Tip of the day: if you want to listen to Iron maiden but not boring ass shit check out Battle cry by Omen.
>>124438594The guy from Bethlehem
literally black metal without the tremoloshithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2q8lRtEgQso...it's actually good
>>124439102Based progenitors of black metal
>>124439089I mean the one on Dictius Te Necare.
>>124439036>PaysageI did and it went in one ear out the other. Never did latch onto that tradition of raw and simple>Sumaccan't agree, no shot you digested in full yet but I digress that for me they're how you feel with Aquilus I imagine being Isis founder Aaron Turner's follow up band that I've been waiting for them deliver on for years and am pretty happy with this one>Masteryhow funny, I randomly made that album art a profile pic at point years ago
>>124439038hell yeah king of the coffin worms brother
Order of Negru
>>124439175based
oh neat, Steve Peacock of Mastery went on to drop that Spirit Possession record last year
Spit Poo-Session sucks
>>124438718>>124438956Yeah Night Verses is great, really surprising band honestly, the guitarist's effects are fantastic, sounds almost computerized. >yeah the tech/prog duo is a pretty convenient combo that I run into moreI definitely noticed you have a lean towards that, its a nice combination honestly, definitely I much prefer it over the traditional OSDM clones, its far beyond those bands. You ever listen to Ferocity? Should be something you really like with all the fusion-y stuff you are intohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5sRnTLFrNM>20m behemoths really utilize compositionSo few... the worst are those older style bands like Incantation who can't even write a coherent 3 minute track and then try writing a 16 minute long composition where most of it is just random riffs that could be placed in any order lmao. >I have a hunch you disdain symphonicUhhhh, yes, kind of, but I'm probably even more disgusted by atmospheric bm instead, due to what I wrote in that other post about it being at odds with itself. Symphonic metal is just... the idea of instrumental variety is something I am in vast favor of, but in regards to casio synths over blast beats? I could live without that. If you want to bring in flutes, xylophones, horns, and such while doing it well, then by all means I am all aboard that train ( I love Fleshvessel for instance). Its just that """""""symphonic"""""" is usually just synths, and they are used in the cheesiest most gratuitous way imaginable by people who have no conception of even basic textures beyond single voice riffs with constant percussion gimmicks such as blasts. >>124438811Total schizophrenia. >what's you opinion on Chelsea Wolfe?Used to really like her stuff, especially Ἀποκάλυψις, but ultimately her rock roots means shes boring to listen to after you wake up and stop listening to popslop. Anna von Hausswolff is far better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y164qV4_Vxc
>>124439023Lol I think I remember you, are you that Pokolgép hater? Seriously, you should be proud instead.
Artist: DarkthroneAlbum: PanzerfaustSong: Beholding The Throne of Might>And destruction upon the holy man>Who hails a jew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2q8lRtEgQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2q8lRtEgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2q8lRtEgQ
where'd the metal go? it's all zeuhl!
>>124439170>Never did latch onto that tradition of raw and simpleHas to be one of the worst things that metal ever decided should be a thing, actual ambient or electronic at least has timbre variation. As I said, the percussion and vocals in metal are totally against being furniture music, the entire idea is a catastrophe to begin with. >no shot you digested in fullI mean Yellow Dawn literally plays the same riff for the majority of the 12 minute long song, its not a very complicated piece that I might think I had simply not comprehended it properly. I'm more interested in form and development than hearing musicians bounce ideas off each other on the spot honestly. >MasteryOriginally I wrote it off as total and utter nonsense... which it is, BUT, its also highly energetic and highly engaging nonsense simply because of the lack of repetitions and quickness of how it cuts through each section. Its like listening to the most jagged thrash album ever made, but without the staleness that comes from playing music like metal usually does in the AAAAABBBBBBAAAAAACCCCCAAAAAA (ABACA) or any other variation of things like this such as AAAAABBBBBCCCCBBBBBCCCAAAAIf you are into Mastery already and have a clear interest in improv, then I take it you know of Skin Tension already?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQNv4h0Vp30>>124439256I was far most interested in the fact he joined Black Curse this year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MnzMq8MYI
>>124439532Nice. I love zeuhl. Will blast this.
literally actual silence is a kind of metal literally i invented emo a kind of death metal this is a metal genre yujhelqweixk
>>124439543Good to see this general being used correctly.
Samefagging off the charts
literally magma■ is a metal band
I freaking love Rammstein and Till's porno
>>124439760How do you like it? When I first listened I couldn't help but feel like it was a slightly less good (but still good) copy of Negative Plane. I think they share band members, so it makes sense. But it just felt too similar to be a different band. I should probably give this another listen though.
>>124439682And it won't be for long I'm afraid, you'll be back to reading low effort repetitive posts on Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, and the rest of the tourist kingdom tomorrow, the day after that, the day after that day, the day after the day which was after the day, the next week, the next month, and the next year. Metalfags love talking about the same popslop for so long that I can only assume this is also why they like "riffs", because now the music is as repetitive as their minds, stuck in perpetual circles forever, poor sods!Either way I'm out once the other poster doesn't feel like replying, or our conversation naturally dead ends. No point in sticking around to read yet one more "discussion" on if one Iron Maiden album is better than another, where the key "arguments" are "x good, y bad" replied to with "no x bad, y good!".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zws8RkI-Gw8AOTY
>And it won't be for long I'm afraid>doubt.jpg
>>124439834Pretty much agree with your assessment. Worth a relisten if you really like that Negative Plane sound. It is also similar (though less so) to Funereal Presence - Achatius. Even the album cover is reminiscent, plus the four long songs.
This waiting room deserves a Jute Gyte post, Adam Kalmbach is beloved here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkyxqqO3cyQ>>124439898Yeah just like what some numale claims "u-ur addicted" and then who left here unplanned for 2 months simply because this place is literally so fucking boring one couldn't even be assed to come torment some beta orbitors for entertainment. Face reality, /metal/ is a fucking joke. Most people here listen to more kpop and Taylor than metal. No wonder they think shitty gimmicks like blasts are an endless source of inspiration. BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG, must be what their mothers did to their head to end up this fucking stupid.
>>124439869Why concede to Madame Secretary and her Alabama gimp?
>>124439943This cover looks familiar, but I'm not sure I've listened. I really like Stained Glass Revelations so more Negative Plane isn't bad imo. I'll give both these albums a spin.
The Grey King? Nah, the FILTER king, LORD of percolation, EMPEROR of straining.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eAZHnfe394>>124439976Conceding would be to even think about some random idiot at all when making a decision on if to stay here or not. The thing that is important to me is what I'm getting out of this place, which is very little. The IQ of 4chan has dropped tremendously these past years, and the population is not growing or gaining new posters, in fact its dying. There will be no greater horizon or better times, this is all this place will ever be. Sicking around here just to "own" some irrelevant loser and an orbitor everyday is only "owning" myself as my time is wasted on low iq mongrels who will die listening to and most importantly THINKING worthless nonsense till they die. Anyways, looks like Kato left so I don't really have a reason to be here anymore. Will go back to the art history lectures that are much more interesting than listening to post-African repetitions while someone discusses the latest Linkin Park album or whatever other travesty they call music (or metal) shitting into their ears.
>>124439543nope, Skin Tension has evaded my radar but I'm liking the bandcomps seeing Kayo Dot one of my lodestars. will have to check along with Ferocity, the 90s/early00s seem to be a depthless cache of weird unique albums, now again reinvented in recent years - hello again Sleepytime Gorilla Museumdidn't know Peacock was in Black Curse but that checks out with it's endless invigorating vitality. a real standout this yeardo you not find neoclassical plagued with similar problems? I've been meaning to see if China has produced anything interesting with it's hordes of classical instrument prodigies. Kashiwa Daisuke put out another album this year, Ice, that's prettygood, love him https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%E6%9F%8F%E5%A4%A7%E8%BC%94/ice/
>>124440139Never mind looks like he didn't leave, you are to suffer my presence a little longer yet.
Still great
>>124440139ULTRA BASED.
>>124437498\m/
https://voca.ro/12y4oV7gFLe3
>>124440139Drop a link to those lectures before you go, hombre.
>>124440222Far better than anything the two autistic discourseslop fags are posting rn and it's literal DBZ amv music I WANNA BE PUSHED ASIDE SO LET ME GOOOOOOOOOOOOOhttps://youtu.be/NjdgcHdzvac?si=0KFAUmc5pvF6sLmU
>>124440177>picI take it you are into supremacism (the art form)?>seeing Kayo Dot one of my lodestarsAh, now that Kayo Dot and improv are mentioned, am I to assume you already know of Ehnahre then? Quite literally one of my favorite bands ever, The Marrow is something I consider to be a bit of a marvel and a blueprint for what I envision a better path for future metal to take. If you haven't then ignore every single other rec I gave including my chart this instant, instead listen to this start to finish:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zud-xcs4qxE>neoclassical plagued with similar problemsNeoclassical metal has a lot of issues, chief among them being the focus on the single guitarist and his technical skill, if they would treat it more like an artform such as Jason Becker did, there would be a lot more potential, mostly because one guitarist (no matter what the skill is) is rather limited in texture, and also timbre and so on. The main reason for me liking the genre is simply because it has less repetitions, a melody is not just a repeated riff, its actually going somewhere, development! Shocking! The truth is I would rather listen to some candy melodies and scales that are going somewhere than yet another stagnant circular "non linear" (aka going fucking no where) approach of most metal. I think First Fragment really showcased that the genre was barely even developed at all in the 80s, and the strange mix of classical counterpoint with syncopation/swing really was a fantastic idea I haven't heard elsewhere. Now the vocals and drumming are uh... incoherent to say the least, and I think if they did a "power metal" style (and actually used percussion as a TOOL instead of a metal gimmick) then the genre would have a lot more respect to it.
I guess I'm curious how differentiable and distinct one can find First Fragment to the glut of imitative power-prog. is it a trained musician thing? they're technically impressive sure and I do like them but isn't the form of shredding and emotive crescendo core what you typically look down on? are they an exception or do you have a power sweet-spot. I like a fair bit of the cream of the crop but still most is too cheesy and trite for me
ah I see, posted before last reply
Is Blueprint better?
>>124440222>>124440248ULTRA BASED
>>124440449You're ultra based, you fucking guy.
To be fair calling drums a metal gimmick is unfair, since its really a ROCK or even JAZZ, or even MARCHING BAND gimmick. Of all the instruments to exist, it is the worst gimmick to have ever existed that isn't an even worse percussion like the triangle. Actually the triangle is more respectable because at least no one has ever bothered to constantly hit it for 5-60 minutes straight. That being said, if it must exist, then it should be jazz flavored, rock and metal drumming is fucking awful. >>124440418>>124440429Yeah sorry, ninja'd you there with >>124440405
>new Chelsea Wolfe>letsgo.jpg>it's acoustic slopit's so over
>>124440487didn't know she was trans
I've been relistening to Baroness albums recently and it's insane how bad the production and mixing got over time. They went from having fantastic quality on their early EPs and albums to muddy unlistenable dogshit on their later albums. Purple would be so fucking good if they just fixed the fucking production!
Which one of you's bathroom is this?
>>124440573>walk into the bathroom>GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
>>124440573this is my bathroom
>when the 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 is repeated 7 times in a row
>>124440515??
I AM THEGOD OF THUNDERRRRRRAND ROCK N ROLLLLLLLL
>>124440613Thank you boomer.
>>124440629Thank you so much trans sister.
>>124440177>Kashiwa DaisukeAlso replying again here just to say this is peak Animusic, I immediately went to look at his credits, of course its a Shinkai movie hes done the OST for, just HAD to be the footfag movie too.
>>124440405>suprematismKamdinsky and abstract expressionism generally sure though not any limited specific or deeply knowledgeable way, am a STEM fag layman that should've majored in humanities. these are Julie Mehretu pieces. >Ehnahremm I remember this album art from the 2008 debut but will have to revisit and check the marrowdo you like the direction Kayo Dot has taken over Toby's career? I think Dowsing is still slept on and everyone hyped Hubardo as a return to form but it also felt stifling, I'm glad he keeps evolvingso what's your take on the 2nd coming of jesus christ Tobin and Animals as Leaders? pure wank or stimulating? it's a bit much for me to swallow, I'd rather a more holistic experimental or jam fusion post based if less metal approach than the "math" or polyphia trend.
>>124440679lol that's funny, didn't realize but totally makes sense for Shinkai. no I mean, I've been riding with him since 2007 Program Music with its modern classical glitched intense drum&bass but I don't usually fuck with too much anime adjacent music
how do you guys feel about Klezmer (Jewish), jazz-rock cartoon/videogame music in your metal circa 2000?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oRiIUqUF00
>>124441006This is the kind of music I would play in my swanky NYC apartment to seduce a redheaded, freckled, big tiddy, big nose, Jewish girl
>>124441006Not metal. >>>/b/
>>124440690>amdinsky and abstract expressionism generally sureAh I see, I was just wondering since the abstract shapes is that sort of thing, I don't know too many contemporary artists like this Julie Mehretu myself, I'm not one for that style, but I do prefer it to be more pure in the abstract geometry rather than the strange background scribbles she adds there. I can only assume that image is about the mixing of cultures, races, and nations; what with all the obvious flags, crosses, etc. Actually not very abstract the longer I look at it, there are literal world flags all over the place in it. >the 2008 debutThat one is certainly good if you are a metal fan wanting more of the same metal, to me its good and certainly a hard album to approach, sort of like a twelve tone Obscura era Gorguts album. REally thought the point at which they become extraordinary to me is on Douve when the metal becomes completely entwined with the classical ideas they had on Old Earth, and then more importantly The Marrow is like the full fruition of electroacoustic meets metal, and its so wonderful. Taming the Cannibals might also be an album you would enjoy a lot of, much more "metal", but very improvisational feeling and utterly chaotic. >Kayo DotHonestly I don't know much about them because I find the whispers and spoken word to ruin everything for me. Its not really dark enough to make me look over something like that either, its kind of post-rocky but also a bit saccharine for myself. Sorry!cont....
>>124440690Cont...>AaLI like him, his playing is unique (before people copied him) and I think the music is nice to listen to. There are a million other bands I would pick AaL over in a heart beat, like would I rather listen to them or some usual black metal? No contest his music is much better put together. The thing about them is that each moment has something to listen to and pick out, and the transitions between each idea are usually very smooth, which is infinitely more than most metal bands who just go from one riff to another with no coherence at all. I don't really think about wank or how hard something is or isn't to play, only whats actually going on with the music, and his stuff is much better than most metal in a moment to moment, yet also as a song. He at least understands how to evolve and expand a riff into multiple ideas that he guides you through, its (usually) had some thought put into it, even if that thought was a way to lead to a point where he can showcase his skill. In a way his style is sort of like variations on a theme where the idea is changed and contorted multiple times before the ending.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unao6p1WP14>PolyphiaI actually like that new album when its instrumental hehehe, its light hearted moment to moment stuff with a lot going on, which is better than light hearted stuff with basically nothing going on. His melodies are genuinely good, Playing God is catchy. Also I would ravage Timberly no lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5NoQg8LdDk
Who's fucking blog posts am i reading
>>124441138Mine 4cucker, mad about it? Gonna cry? 2easy.
>>124441159Well you're a faggot
>>1244411934cuckers walking into my personal blog be like "w-wheres the Judas Priest and GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYEEEEER????"
>>124441212Get the fuck out of MY general
>>124441254Your general, my choice.
>>124441266Until the next time you sperg out and have a melty
>>124440690Also yeah that painting is almost surely about the mixing of cultures, races, and nations. Its crazy how this happens everytime. These people are a disease.
>>124441289Ok, but try writing that out without tears running down your face.
>>124441266ULTRABASED
>>124441326kek you're already maldingyou have the emotional stability of a black woman
>>124441365Having another melty, orbitor?
>>124441371nah that's you
>>124441100Tobin is certainly brilliant enough to write coherent pieces no doubt I guess I'd just prefer him in a more traditional ensemble. the jazz fusion whorling nylon tone bends and dominant plink plonking bass strings just flattens out into monotony for me. I'd rather listen to acoustic classical guitar>the whispers and spoken word to ruin everything for me1 or 2 egregious tracks come to mind but I think you're missing out on a lot of brilliant compositions that play with structure you ought be interested in. I insist you jam these tracks off Choirs of the Eye. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvEa69XIdEEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FRCwq_sSYThat was their peak of focal metal intensity so the follow up Dowsing was intentionally exploring the opposite, a sort of sonic nadir of deconstructive propagation while still being pretty intense and cacophonous
actually might be too methodical and plodding for you realizing you heavily prioritize uptempo freneticism but nonetheless
>>124437435>Guadalajaran Grindwhat is this?
>>124441480Grindcore from Guadalajara, Mexico
Is "Det Som En Gang Var" the greatest black metal song of all places and times?
>>124441416>I'd rather listen to acoustic classical guitarThat is something I can definitely get behind, or obviously just any classical really regardless of instrument. Its just usually the comparison is between metal and I prefer him over most metal bands.>you're missing out on a lot of brilliant compositionsYeah, like I never thought they made bad or even mediocre music, just that when you listen to the album and the ASMR sections come on it really makes me want to just head to the x button and stop that asap.And I do genuinely like their dynamics, compositions, etc, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut what I want from classical to metal is for it to match the ethos or underlying feeling of metal, something dark and aggressive that adds the dynamics and other ideas that metal seems to have forgotten. Y'know, less Arvo Part and more Bartok or Penderecki. To go along with that, I don't want metal to be just a finale, or a 30 second climax like Kayo Dot does in Wayfarer, I want it to be metal, but as if a classical composer made it. To me Kayo Dot is like post-rock with a little hint of metal as a seasoning.Compare that to something like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E508NzVOU3cIts this eerie and tension filled beginning from what sounds like aleatoric rain-like percussion with harsh metal throaty vocals all over that, eventually that leads to a prominent drone repetition from a distorted guitar, and as it builds and builds eventually the vocals reappear from the waterfall as huge droning waves of distorted chords are added and more and more electroacoustics happen, till all is silenced for the chords to ring out with still no resolution in sight, then eerie sonorist horns begin and finish it all in a total cacophony before fading away with the lightest of light percussion you have ever heard. This is in a way a large crescendo, but not one of post-rock, and the total opposite of saccharine, this is harsh, its aggressive, its ugly music. Thats what metal is about.
>>124441416>>124441806Also didn't have space to fit this, but Ludwig Meidner is fantastic, I love all the catastrophic imaginary he made, the colors he uses are fantastic and the way he constructs his scenes you can really feel the chaos that being bombed must have been like. Its like a visual earthquake before your eyes in a still image. Also please use the second youtube link "A Wandering Fire", the "Ceiling of Insects" one with the deleted post was a mislink.
>>124441478>actually might be too methodical and plodding for you realizing you heavily prioritize uptempo freneticism but nonethelessYes and no, I think I prioritize freneticism in metal because its such a boring genre otherwise. I mean listening to some guy smacking his snare drum over and over and over and over again while the same theme is repeated on end is just awful music, its boring! However if you actually construct PROPER music that evolves and develops on some level then I can take something very methodical and even meditative. For instance I love Durufle and he has plenty of songs which are the very opposite of frenetic, hes known for his contemplative writing. Hell one even has meditation in the name of the composition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1JzNtH3ErwEhnahre themselves have a drone tag for a reason too. Its just you actually have to write something of worth for me to accept a methodical slow piece, but if you are writing crap music the least you can do is offer some emotional aspect like raw energy, or don't just play the same thing for minutes at time. Its one thing to be crap, its another to be boring crap. Metal to me has a niche in its energy and aggression that other genres don't hold in nearly the same amounts, so I do prioritize it here because most metal is worse than crap, its a factory machine on a drum, a monkey on the mic, and a wind up toy for a guitarist.
>>124440758>with its modern classical glitched intense drum&bassDid you like that Venetian Snares thing too then? (pic related)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcGpqxNsrkw
>Remember that old demo tape you recorded in high school you forgot was in your mom's attic? I can release that on vinyl for you
>>124442134If you need a label you are NGMI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hvbHt2p7Mw
>>124442164He's too autistic to let a label interfere with his artistic freedoms
yea linking Wayfarer was definitely a mistake in the context of this conversation but it is a favorite of mine because I do love how well it does that romatic posty baroque crescendo but the 2nd track The Antique takes a totally different reverse approach quickly constructing a lumbering machine and stalking it's elongated trajectory into decay and like I was saying the follow up album Dowsing actually has a lot in common with this Ehnahre track right down the syncopated percussive dronescape and demented vocals on something like Gemini Becoming the Tripod or the dispersed cacophony with hollowed out center of On Limpid Form https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan-CsyMM8Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mhZXjN4M7k>>124442073oh yeah big time but I'll admit I haven't listened to hundreds of albums like metal to grow tired or hone a refined taste in that sphere
>>124442194And thats a GOOD THING.
>>124442134https://shop.nwnprod.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=75&product_id=51854
never trust a metal head that doesn't worship the power of the riff
working a new song called "Crushed Under Walls of Text (Essays of the Pseud)"
>>124442209>actually has a lot in common with this Ehnahre trackWell Ryan did play in Kayo Dot for the first two albums, although honestly I only listened to the first album from Kayo Dot and maybe one other later one which drove me off the band entirely. I heard they only got less metal after Ryan left so I didn't bother pressing into their discography much. Gemini is definitely more something I would like, I still much prefer Ehanhre's compositions because it is so much more sinster and ugly, plus I think its built up better and Toby's psuedo-harsh vocals are second rate plus sound whiny at times. This is probably the most metal I've heard them sound however, glad Ryan took this idea and really extracted a more perfected form (for me) of it using modern classical techniques like serialism, soundclusters, aloeric, and electroacoustic elements. Limpid form was a to me a disaster, not sure why the drum is in the piece, providing a "beat" is not really something required, it's so saccharine but the drum is just ruining the entire experience, and then the rock n roll solo... terrible composition if I'm to be honest, had to turn it off after that solo. I can tolerate some drumming for the beat for metal because I don't really have an option to not have it there, but if you are playing something so close to classical in feeling, then why are you adding some rock n roll solos and a beat? Totally incoherent. >oh yeah big time but I'll admit I haven't listened to hundreds of albums like metal to grow tired or hone a refined taste in that sphereSame here, there are genres I like such as d&b (which is probably because I played vidya with it when I was younger), but yeah I haven't exactly touched on all breakcore has to offer or anything. Igorrr your thing as well?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKcAMo4rcWkBit too sporky for me...>>124442294Never trust a music fan who believes riffs are anything but a gimmick for the uneducated.
>>124442504hehe well can't say you weren't a good sport. album bounced off me hard at first too, drugs helped really get immersed and explore but maybe that was just the drugs! I would say yes the "rock and roll" solos are a trademark but I love how they're in that wrenching David Gilmour register and often juxtaposed with violins and bizarre arrangements making them really pop or etching how stark the contrasting piece is. the drums are the connective tissue that give skeletal form and punctuate the slowly evolving drone!I will happily chug down an Igorr album like a cold beer. I'd say that project is right on that line for me of too random. He keeps the plates spinning without excessive diversion or indulgence. I don't quite get the vitriol I've seen against him specifically headed off for now, thanks for the chat
>>124442134I love this Jap like you wouldn't believe.
>>124441480>>124441480Yep. Mexico is in the top 3 for grindcore scenes
>>124442641We love left and right guitar splitting here, in that that is my favorite way to have them (god bless Ad Nauseam). If you want to hear a very cool album that has dual guitars, dual drums, and dual drums that are all split left and right then listen to one of the albums I used to post around here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aD5sZWUfvIBesides that, Chaos Echoes are pretty cool, seems like they can get a bit stuck on an idea such as track three basically just being one theme played start to finish, which I'm assuming is because this is improvisational based? They could do with some more development instead of letting the drummer show off his skills over some tremolo drones for minutes at a time such as one track four. Good musicians, like the guitar split, nice quality drumming, but this is a bit of an unfinished product I'm afraid. >>124442703Eh yeah if you like I don't have much against the band honestly, they make good proper music unlike 99% of metal, its just not really my thing. Obviously I think you are into more fusion-y, post-rock, and jazz ideas I think, so I imagine the drums and solos are a bonus rather than a negative to you. >don't quite get the vitriol I've seen against him specificallyDidn't even know that was a thing, I mean to be honest I can always listen to him, I just wouldn't play it given other options. Never really knew people were excessively against him though.>headed off for now, thanks for the chatYeah you too, was a good meeting for sure. Like I said, if you can't find me here in the future then I linked my RYM before, I might lurk a bit here looking for the "Hey Heck" poster, but would be very sparse besides that I think.
>>124442844> in that thatin fact* that>dual guitars, dual drums, and dual drumsdual guitars, dual bass*, and dual drumsBit tired I think. Forgive me.
>>124441604>>124442758post examples
>>124442867Why are you replying to yourself, Iass?
>Why are you replying to yourself, lass?
Negru plays drgonforce on sxophonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-NdGfK7Do
>>124442895this shit goes hard
>>124441762Nah, Machinery That Renders Debt Infinite exists. https://youtu.be/lBlJ52_MLyo?t=2145
Anyways, guess I'm off too now since its back to talking about about Judas Priest, tremolotrite, p*nk dogshit, and baldcuckery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9loIw0dI9n4Still laughing at that painting about mixing all the world's nations being made by a bagel baker btw, I swear these parasites are biggest disgrace to have ever existed, "gods chosen", I only wonder if it wasn't some horrible demon of putrification as their "god" with how they act.
>>124440275>>124440275
>>124442937>Jew GyattNot listening!!!!
>>124441100>Julie MehretuMehretu was born in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia in 1970, the first child of an Ethiopian college professor of geography and a Jewish American Montessori teacher
>>124442867Just to name a few,https://youtube.com/watch?v=C4cXq-YpIRohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=p-YuYsSe9rEhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=kvmmd0LLF7Q
>I could shoot myself in the fucking head for writing that songKWAB
>>124443301>Can I clear the air on that? They [VH1 producers] just caught me on a bad day. It was a bad moment—I was going through a divorce, my mom had just passed away, all this stuff was going on—and they sit me down in a chair and wanna start grilling me with questions, and I didn't wanna be there, so ... You know, push that interview to the side, I'm happy as a clam to have written a song that is still being played and still dug by so many people. It's hard enough to write a song, let alone one that sticks around.
>>124442978INHERENTLY.
lol who revved him??>>124437498
>>124443612>>124443612>>124443612
>>124436958
Where is Based Blasters or whatever his name is
>>124444156That's fear
>>124444210ok
FUCK OFF JANNY
>>124443605Idk but it’s pretty funny he spent like 16 hours blogposting while everyone ignored him
>>124444444
>>124439290Varg Vikernes about the Early Norwegian Scene gathering in Helvete(direct quotation):>Turns out that, pretty much everybody were so-called "racist", they were anti-immigration, they were pro-nationalist, we cultivated this
>wait 900 seconds to post
>>124444657why
>>124444670New cookie or whatever
>>124440442...so far it's better, but like Cadaver Art, it doesn't sound much like Mortal Decay.
>>124437498https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOc-OcbHV-w
>>124442134dude had a podcast ep interviewing himself
I really like that new Knocked Loose album
>>124444657same
>>124444701There's a few moments that feel like Hartman, Gordon, and Ipri quoting Forensic, but the heightened technicality on this album is more of the modern flashy and busy variety than Forensic's adventurousness. Solid album, but it definitely falls into the crowd-pleasing "MCDONALDS! MCDONALDS! MCDONALDS!" camp of metal.
This is too good of a cover for a pizza thrash album
Satan.
>>124440573EVIL HAHAEVIL HAS NO CONTROLEVIL WILL TAKE YOUR SOULEVIL MY RISE AND FALLBlelvelelbelelbelelbleleblele elelvelel blelevlelbelleble dun dun dun da duh duh da
Someone rec a Journey album similar to my favorite, A. Commenter says "Heart" sounds like "Steve Perry".
Big bands I haven’t listened to yet despite being heavily into metal since I was 8 years old and constantly listen to albums I haven’t heard before>enslaved>entombed >anthrax>overkill>opeth>flotsam jetsam >testament>mayhem (I heard freezing moon)>gogorth>dark funeral>inquisition >behemoth
Which one am I missing out on the most? I’m sure there are other big bands I can’t think of rn
Only an out of the loop poser would willing go see tutu YES A TUTU wearing I am Morbid live show.
>>124445239same
>>124445265>calls people posers despite only listening to a handful of bandsDude is a retard I loved seeing the guy from carcass calling him out
>>124445239Listen to Mayhem, warts and allalso the first three Entombed and Gorgoroth albums
>>124445335Ok yeah gorgoroth is cool so far, I like the thrashy type of black metal. I don’t know why they never appealed to me before
>>124445239I'd advise to avoid Entombed, Anthrax, never heard of flotsam jetsam. Rest can be good depending on album.>>124445367The Antichrist is definitely their best and most consistent album with no filler. Rest is a disappointment. Under The Sign of Hell has some of their best tracks however.
>>124445331That was fucking brutal. I wonder if Jdawg even had the awareness to realize what was going on (doubtful).
BLASTING for the first time, amazing.
>>124445528based swamp metal
>>124445528>>1244455334/5
>>124445528also blasting for the first time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMD8hBsA-RI&list=OLAK5uy_n-881wekmxpKxtWaCpJbE_MlHJr_LGy_s&index=4
>>124445331Hes entertaining,but what solidified for me that he is indeed a retard is when he said "some guy named Justin played guitar on Scum, WHO?!". I mean how in one breath you say that "ONLY THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS COUNT BRAH BRAH" and then not know who Justin Broadrick is
>>124445624Let's not even get into how he opposes "twinkcore" death metal (correct) but rates Katatonia - Dance of December Souls as a top 20 DM record of all time (contradiction).
>>124445624There are a ton of classic bands he’s never heard of, it comes up often. He’s mentally still a kid who looks up to the musicians in his local area and tends to like bands they recommended him
>>124445528BLASTING as well
>>124445639Dance of December souls is a classic. TAPE ON THAT MOUTH SHUT
>>124445656Correct.
>>124445528This or Formulas? What is /meal/'s preference?
>>124445764Formulas
>>124437498>>124437498
>>124445764Def Fornulas, but Gateways is also good
This track has grown on me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLZ_za4a-88
NEW: >>124445811NEW: >>124445811NEW: >>124445811
>>124437917>>124438942>>124445528>>124445776Best blastings of the thread
>>124445803Thumbnail made me think of Nightmare Before Christmas kek
>>124445827I do not bother to watch the video.
