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Aeternal Bach Edition

This thread is for the discussion of classical music in the western tradition. Early Music, Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic and Modern all welcome.

Bach - Cantata Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland BWV 61 - Van Veldhoven | Netherlands Bach Society
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzWJsRjanC4

>How do I get into classical?

This outdated link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:

https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh

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>>124757759
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>>124777637
I remember my old days of radio listener. There were names that were always present. Maybe the radio station only had the cds of Klemperer, Karajan, Richter, Gould. All day every day the same guys.
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>>124777673
yeah, that’s the average goyim cattle’s idea of “golden age”. pretty sad stuff.
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>>124773097
>>124778015
For you, insomutt
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>>124778032
>please please please won’t you reply to me and Rape me like my uncle did?
lol, you’re more needy than my girlfriend.
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Top ten symphonists:

1. Beethoven
2. Bruckner
3. Haydn
4. Mozart
5. Schubert
6. Sibelius
7. Bach
8. Mahler
9. Tchaikovsky
10. Brahms
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>>124778518
1. Rachmaninoff
2. Prokofiev
3. Brahms
4. Tchaikovsky
5. Schumann
6. Mahler
7. Shostakovich
8. Bruckner
9. Schubert
10. Beethoven
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>>124778518
not the best bait, but not totally low effort ever. i give it a resounding 6/10
>>124778519
now this is what i call low effort bait.
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>>124778501
>my girlfriend.
LOL. Insomutt's delusions getting stronger each day
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>>124778520
Onwards to psych ward
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>>124778523
sorry, not all of us are attention seeking faggots like you, Raped. i know this is hard for you to come to terms with, but the sooner you do, the better.
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>>124778529
If by girlfriend you mean /classical/, then maybe... Insomutt's dedication to this general is exemplary.
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>>124778536
no, Raped, it means i’m not a faggot who’s interested in having gay anal sex with you so you can relive your childhood trauma. that’s what it means. get the memo now?
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>>124778544
Still dreaming of that psych ward certificate on the colorful circus pedestals?
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>>124778558
sorry, but you’ll have to explain this bollywood movie reference to me, i’m not caught up on the latest cinema showings in new delhi.
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>>124778520
>not the best bait, but not totally low effort ever. i give it a resounding 6/10
I was being serious. I don't see how anything is egregious about that list.
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>>124778563
Oh this must be your alter ego, the circus guy
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>>124778566
for one
>sibelius
LOL
also bach is not a symphonist by any definition, no sinfonias have nothing to do with the classical era and beyond definition of the symphony.
>>124778569
tell me more about this circus guy character, what does he represent in indian media? was he also Raped as a child like you?
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>>124778577
According to the american circus-conservatory one of their students is a clown and psych ward escapee
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>>124778585
bollywood movies have crazy plots these days huh? how well did this flick do in the box office?
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>>124778577
>LOL
Even if you're a Adorno fanboy, Sibelius WAS a traditional composer at one point.

>bach is not a symphonist
He had sons, retard.
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>>124778593
You need a certificate to further delve into the delusions.
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>>124778595
>He had sons
It's too hard to comprehend to a genetic dead-end insomniac, he never touched a woman
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>>124778595
>Sibelius WAS a traditional composer at one point.
and a terrible one at it! good grief, no wonder he switched to hack modernism.
>He had sons, retard.
a): no one refers to any of bach’s sons as simple “bach”. there are bach’s sons, and then there is THE bach.
b): you’re still ranking CPE/WF/JC bach above mahler and brahms which is beyond comical. they’re good composers, but that’s an absolutely absurd assertion.
>>124778605
you’re required certification to watch movies in india now? that’s crazy, no wonder you’re taking out your Raped fantasies on 4chan instead.
>>124778610
that’s not a nice thing to say about yourself, you may be a faggot but you can always adopt some poor kid and molest him into continuing the family tradition the way your uncle did!
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>>124778619
You still need that psych ward certificate
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>>124778627
i don’t live in india thankfully, here in the free world we’re allowed to watch whatever movies we want whenever we want.
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>>124778631
Feel free to brainwash yourself over at psych ward with movies lol
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>>124778636
you’re the one who’s obsessed with bollywood, not me, Raped.
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>>124778640
I don't watch movies, mutt. Now get back to the psych ward
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>>124778657
you sure seem excited to tell me all about the latest box office hits in bollywood though. contradictory much?
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>>124778663
Psych ward welcomes you back, go ahead.
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>>124778669
what’s wrong, you were so eager to explain the intricacies of indian cinema to me earlier. what’s wrong? i’m always happy to indulge your newfound obsession, as long as it takes your mind of being Raped by your uncle sorabji as a child.
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>>124778676
Walk slowly from circus over to the psych ward, insomutt.
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>>124778684
why, does walking slowly decrease your chances of stepping on shit in the street in india? thankfully where i live, we don’t have to worry about that sort of thing.
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Can you both stop? Are you two so retarded you can't find anything better to do than fight on 4chan?
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>>124778699
he’s indian and writing canons in the octatonic scaling is fucking boring. can you blame me?
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>>124778697
Walk slowly as you might fall, insomniac.
>>124778699
I can, however I'm not stopping until the insomniac quits spamming or leaves.
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>>124778722
this may come as a surprise to you, but in the civilized world, we don’t have to worry about accidentally falling into puddles of shitwater wherever we go. a very foreign concept to you, i presume.
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>>124778730
This may come as a surprise to you, but in homogenous european society we sleep well and are not afraid of falling to break our neck, insomutt.
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>>124778755
you live in mumbai buddy, you talking about homogenous european society is about as funny as an indian bragging about access to clean drinking water. which you also incidentally happen to be.
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>>124778619
>and a terrible one at it!
Okay, that's your opinion.

>a): no one refers to any of bach’s sons as simple “bach”.
When we're discussing symphonies, we obviously do, and Mozart did.

>b): you’re still ranking CPE/WF/JC bach above mahler and brahms which is beyond comical.
Not at all. Showy Romanticism does not in any way outperform the gigantic significance of C.P.E Bach for Classical form.
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>>124778763
Onwards slowly to psych ward, insomutt!
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>>124778809
>Okay, that's your opinion.
not really, sibelius wouldn't be the worst composer in the world if he had actual good music.
>When we're discussing symphonies, we obviously do, and Mozart did.
mozart specified that he was talking about JC bach, because that's who he studied with. you couldn't even be bothered to differentiate between the multiple bach sons that all wrote classical sinfonias.
>Showy Romanticism
nothing about brahms is showy LOL
>the gigantic significance of C.P.E Bach for Classical form.
haydn's significance was infinitely greater and far outweighed the contributions of any of the bach sons; they were left totally obsolete after he totally rewrote the handbook on the symphony.
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>>124778823
is this the tagline of the latest bollywood sensation? or is it what your uncle told you right before he Raped you?
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>>124778835
Circus doesn't welcome your overstay much like /classical/, migrate over to psych ward.
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>>124778847
could you translate this one from hindi to english to me? i’m not versed in the language of The Raped.
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>>124778857
Could you leave the website and head over to psych ward?
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>>124778870
no, i’m not interested in roleplaying as the star of your favorite bollywood movie.
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Pelléas et Melisande is the perfect opera and anyone who disagrees deserved the rope
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>>124778901
they deserved it but they’re off the hook now? how generous!
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>>124778894
Then head over to psych ward to get your certificate.
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>>124778907
That's what I get for typing on the phone...
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>>124778960
i don’t think you understood me the first time; i’m not interested in fulfilling your Raped fantasies and acting out your favorite bollywood movie in real life.
>>124778966
it’s what you get for batting for the bussy.
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>>124778997
Then please head over to psych ward to get your certificate
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>>124778901
Tristan und Isolde is the perfect opera.
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Anyone have the full Suske Quartet recordings of Mozart and Beethoven?
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>>124778518
Bruckner sucks
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>>124779228
Your mom sucks
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Late Mozart is the peak of classical music.
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>Menuets and Scherzos can be explained as AABBCAB
Is verse-chorus structure just a simplified scherzo?
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>>124779330
Maybe if you're retarded.
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>>124779350
>mozart le bad
The most midwit take of all possible midwit takes in classical music. About as laughable as "Beethoven's 9th is bad".

Learn to have taste and not be a contrarian.
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Leitmotifs are just a hack's way of recycling material.
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For me, it's Terry Riley - In C.
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What is meaning of theese letters?
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>>124779415
Yeah the third act prelude to Parsifal is just hack work...
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>>124779382
Mozart really wasn't that great though. His music is full of cliches that make me cringe when I hear them because they're so predictable.
>descending or ascending line passing through 5, #4, 4, 3, etc
>appoggiatura of #1 going to 2
>or #2 going to 3
>announcing a half cadence/modulation/end of a section with 3 beats starting on a note, going up an octave, then down 2 octaves
>occasionally 1 or 2 bars of parallel minor mode mixture
>scales, scales everywhere
>inserting random turns or trills because -*~decorations~*-
>alberti bass
Yawn. Now Bach, that's a real composer.
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feels like a Bruckner's 8th morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o1FNxW9HGU&list=OLAK5uy_lfO0D9nEkr5K3Y2guLjYSdcJG2JqDLlyE&index=29
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>>124779330
Mozart is like Don Quixote or Tristram Shandy; wildly important, holds up in quality even today, but has been surpassed by more recent and spiritually relevant music.
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>>124779735
Musically illiterate anon moment
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>>124779776
Genuinely no composer has topped him. He is where music ended
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>>124779735
>>124779776
>The most tremendous genius raised Mozart above all masters, in all centuries and in all the arts. A light, bright, fine day this will remain throughout my whole life. As from afar, the magic notes of Mozart's music still gently haunts me. He is the highest, the culminating point that beauty has attained in the sphere of music as for one moment in the history of music all opposites were reconciled; all tensions resolved; that luminous moment was Mozart.

>Mozart creates music from a mysterious center, and so knows the limits to the right and the left, above and below. He maintains moderation. It always sounds unburdened, effortless, and light. This is why it unburdens, releases, and liberates us. He never abandons himself to any one sense; even at his most ecstatic moments his mind is vigorous, alert, and on the wing. He dives unerringly on to his finest ideas like a bird of prey, and once an idea is seized he soars off again with an undiminished power. It does not give the listener time to catch his breath, for no sooner is one inclined to reflect upon a beautiful inspiration than another appears, even more splendid, which drives away the first, and this continues on and on, so that in the end one is unable to retain any of these beauties in the memory. It is particularly difficult to perform.
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>>124779850
>His admirable clarity exacts absolute cleanness: the slightest mistake in it stands out like black on white. It is music in which all the notes must be heard. Free of all exaggeration, of all sharp breaks and contradictions. The sun shines but does not blind, does not burn or consume. Heaven arches over the earth, but it does not weigh it down, it does not crush or devour it. Easy to read, but very difficult to interpret. The least speck of dust spoils them. They are clear, transparent, and joyful as a spring, and not only those muddy pools which seem deep only because the bottom cannot be seen. His simplicity is merely purity. It is a crystalline thing in which all the emotions play a role, but as if already celestially transposed. Moderation consists in feeling emotions as the angels do.

>Mozart makes you believe in God because it cannot be by chance that such a phenomenon arrives into this world and leaves such an unbounded number of unparalleled masterpieces. It represents neither the prolonged sigh of faith that characterizes so much of the music written before his time, nor the stormy idealism which cloaks most music after him. Rather he is that mercurial balance of the skeptic and the humane. Like him, and in him, we can always discover new worlds.

- Maho Hiyajo
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>>124779330
yes
>>124779776
don quixote surpassed "even today"? by fucking what?
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>>124779828
Who's musically illiterate, the anon who justified his views on Mozart using valid musical vocabulary and terminology, or the anon who constantly uses ad hominems and kindergarten tier vocabulary to express his appeal to authority? Do enlighten us.
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>>124779850
>>124779859
FPTMIO
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>>124779873
You do not understand the point of music. You have a collier-tier appeal-to-novelty view of the medium. Using musical terminology does not make you any less artistically illiterate.
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>>124779862
I said they hold up 'even today'
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>>124779776
>spiritually relevant

What does that mean?
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>>124780029
The more contemporary a work of art is, the more it speaks to the spirit of our age. Joyce and Kafka speak to us more than Cervantes, great as the latter is, in the same way Brahms and Beethoven speak to us more than Mozart.
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>>124780042
Thats not what that means, also you're retarded
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>>124780042
>in the same way Brahms and Beethoven speak to us more than Mozart

Is this even measurable in any way?
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>>124779899
Collier is a moron and probably gay too. Mention him not.
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>>124780044
That's not what 'what' means?

>>124780054
I mean it just is what it is, they're closer to our time, closer to our sensibilities. Of course, it's not a sure thing, sometimes art can go off the rails or only speak to a small subset of people (eg a lot of mid 20th century music), hence why I used Brahms and Beethoven as the examples. This isn't to say Mozart and Cervantes are outdated -- great out is immortal -- but it was the product of a different age, when people and the world were, while alike in many aspects, quite different. We've progressed since then, and so has art, and both of them influence and reflect in one another.
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>>124780042
Joyce and Kafka are garbage. please kill yourself.
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>>124780054
>>124780078
great art* is immortal
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>>124780083
Okay, then Proust, Eliot, Nabokov, Yeats, Gaddis, etc etc, take your pick, the point stands.
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>>124780119
I don't read anyone after Schopenhauer. fuck this gay world.
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start of Mozart: String Quintet No. 2 in C, K.515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh3K1s0eXYc&list=OLAK5uy_njOzpd86DUK2nHSzkclWwqwkJVKA1jZU4&index=2

Mozart: String Quintet No. 3 in G minor, K.516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr5f9p6ycqA&list=OLAK5uy_njOzpd86DUK2nHSzkclWwqwkJVKA1jZU4&index=5
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>>124780138
Okay, so Schopenhauer speaks to you more than Kant or Hegel or St Aquinas or Aristotle, yeah? Then the point stands.
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>>124780138
Based.
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>>124779740
Goddamn that's a 10/10 8th
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>>124777060
Get on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZNf5ITKkc
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>>124779899
>ad hominem ad infinitum
Your concession is accepted, brainlet.
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>>124777591
Woah I didn't know Schönberg was featured in anime. Anyone know what piece they were practicing?
https://files.catbox.moe/8ozwxo.webm
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>>124779850
>>124779859
Which anime would Mozart likely compose for if he was alive today?
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>>124780592
Probably Naruto, emotionally on the same level.
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>>124780581
Doesn't sound anything like Schoenberg. More likely Varèse
https://bergenphilive.no/en/video-concerts/2019/2/edgard-varese-tuning-up/
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>>124780605
I'm thinking more of K-On, the'yre on the same emotional and masterful characterization level.
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Favorite sets for Bartok's string quartets?
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>>124780675
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>>124780675
Vegh 2nd
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Going to a concert tonight at a Cathedral here.
Will hear Bach's Magnificat D-Dur, Boieldieu's Harfenkonzert, and Saint-Saëns's Christmasoratorium.
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>>124780690
I'm jealous, sounds like a good time, enjoy, anon! Wasn't familiar with that Saint-Saens piece but will be checking it out today, so thanks.
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there's no reason to go to venue to see magnifcat performed live since we already have the goated video performance in all of human history
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>pairing boieldeiu and saint saens with bach
sullying the good name of bach with those two shitheads is even more reason to avoid it
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>>124780735
Glad you have reasons to stay in your basement, keeping yourself away from normal happy people. Can you make it a date with this spunkbubble? >>124780743
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>>124780772
>Glad you have reasons to stay in your basement, keeping yourself away from normal happy consumers.
ftfy
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>>124780786
rather a consumer than an autophagic
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>>124780592
none
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>>124780786
>normal happy consumers
But you need to purchase a device to see that glorious video recording. And not all live performances cost money. As an example, we have an organ festival every year at the local Cathedral, zero pennies.
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Another general ruined by the trannyjanny- no surprises there
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>>124780735
It’s louder
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New day, new music. Did listen to picrel yesterday late at night. Lets see again.
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>>124781000
the tickets anon is purchasing for his shitty saint-saens and boieldieu event are nothing like a device.
>>124781012
it may be but it isn't as audible as the FLAC 2.0 at 633 kb/s provided by koopmans video performance
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>>124781026
Last is a very short album, 19 minutes long. Now onto
>Polyphony in Poland
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>>124781214
The sequel to Monophony in Montenegro
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>tfw only chamber and solo piano music sound good to me right now

Strange, not even concertos sound good to me at the moment. The ubiquity of the string ensemble sound does get a little bit monotonous admittedly but is what it is.
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start of J.S. Bach: The Art of Fugue, BWV 1080 - later version of the original print edited by Christoph Wolff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9l7poiRA&list=OLAK5uy_n4TMQkU0ZvaU5NY0ZbkPknDo7mESxILkY&index=1

>"... he is one of the most brilliant and distinctive pianists before the public today." -- The Boston Globe

>"Aimard... played with passion, absolute clarity and a rhythmic momentum that gave music the force of gravity... The playing was, first off, mesmerizing. Aimard's lucidity and transparency make the most complex music feel within a listener's grasp..." -- Los Angeles Times (Concert review Bach's The Art of Fugue)

>"Staggering technique, searching intellect and fantastical imagination" -- New York Times

I'm only a couple parts in, but already I highly, highly recommend this brilliant recording. Please check it out if you're a fan of Bach and/or piano music, and even if not!
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>>124781026
I'm finding it very difficult to discover any information about this recording, piece, or composer. Back to my theory that you're making some of these up...
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>>124781519
The composer is indeed obscure. I was also interested in him upon stumbling in the album. Couldn find anything but picrel last night.
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>>124781519
>>124781591
And as a long life reader of Borges and fantastical literature I was also considering it as a hoax, but I have the album, so yes Im perplexed.
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What's the easiest way to listen to ambisonic classical recordings? I want to feel like I'm in the concert hall.
I see that Tidal and crApple music have Dolby Atmos tracks, but I'm not paying for a streaming subscription. Soulseek has a few of the albums but I can't tell if they are the Dolby Atmos version or not.
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added a few more Bach recordings this morning

>Cello Suites:
Mischa Maisky
Lynn Harrell

>WTC
Bernard Roberts
Jeno Jando

>Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin
Gidon Kremer

as you can see my tastes lean romantic, sentimental, spiritual. don't care for HIP, 'playing it straight,' or speed demon virtuosos. Should be a fun time!
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>>124781775
>Jeno Jando
Oh neat! Enjoy yourself anon
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>>124781775
maisky, jando, and kremer have something in common which harrell had hoped to imitate in 2011. what is the common denominator?
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>>124780690
Saint-Saëns's Christmasoratorium.

I like the sound of that. Unless it’s singing if it’s singing it’s getting turned off
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>>124782091
kek it's an oratorio
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>>124781775
>Jeno Jando

I've only heard Book 2 by him but it's really solid. A dark horse in a shedload of WTC recordings
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>>124781489
This one did absolutely nothing for me. Sounds to me Aimard is just trying to be different and forgets to play the music
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>>124781489
>searching intellect

This sums it up. What is he searching for? Just play the notes and nake it sound musical.
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>>124782172
Ah damn, well thanks for giving it a try, that's all I can ask for. Hopefully my next rec works out better.
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>>124782103
Uff, at least it is not about religion or something
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>>124782254
the next recommendation will probably fall just as flat as the last. my suggestion? stop reading reviews from the boston globe, los angeles and new york times. actually, just stop reading reviews.
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>>124780138
Try JK Rowling not as depressing
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>>124782290
I didn't find it through the reviews, I just added it to the post as extra information and it was there on the page I found it on.
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>>124780141
>No. 3 in G Minor
???
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>>124782290
>just stop reading reviews
With less words and less pretentious, but your opinions are in the same category of the reviews. Curious.
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>>124782341
I got scammed by the tags, sorry.
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>>124782290
Reviews are handy, how else do you decide what to spend your time on? One shouldn't take them as gospel, substituting them for one's own opinion, but they're handy as a tool, as a informative beacon.
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>>124782146
>>124781998
Glad to hear. I started with Book II from Bernard Roberts which I really liked, but now I'm looking forward to Jando's.
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>>124782326
okay how about this dont add random reviews to your post but instead color it with words of your own. it could be about anything related to the product. the cover or the background of the pianist. the date at which the recording was captured and released. random thoughts on the composer or the label. the reviews are ugly, impersonal and have a tinge of profit motive behind them. they're not something i read when you post them and im sure to not be the only one. in fact it makes me want to ignore your posts entirely when green text dash dave hurwitz or whomever is included.
>>124782380
i choose to spend my time on music that i have sampled myself from artists whose backgrounds have cleared requirements that i've set out for music to pass in order for them to be admitted onto my hard drive. corporate outlets are the last place i'd go to look for reviews.
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Grieg Chamber Music, lets gooo
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiYXcJwAsdg
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>>124779008
sorry, still not interested in LARPing as your favorite bollywood movie.
>>124779343
this is definitely one of the dumber things you've come up with, pedo kraut.
>>124780675
that one
>>124780686
vague quartet? hard pass
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>>124782779
>vague quartet? hard pass
Ohoho YES!! Never heard that one before good stuff
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>>124782429
I also read the reviews- I read them twice in fact to make up for the times you don’t read them
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But enough of modernity! This kids these days with their Bach and the so called baroque!
Lets go back to the lute works of Nicolas Vallet
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>>124783150
Forgot pic
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>>124783083
thank you, i'll be here all night
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Verdi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4dExOjoVw
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>>124783168
That’s some fat lute
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>>124783441
Or a very petite man.
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>>124783542
he’s clearly not petite by any stretch of the imagination
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>>124782779
Not interested in certificatelet babble. Onwards to the psych ward.
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>>124777591
I wonder how many can tell the difference between a toccata and a prelude from a listen.
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>>124783661
try asking someone else to live out your bollywood reenactment with you instead, i don't care about your favorite indian films.
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>>124783695
I don't care about your insomniac delusions, schizophrenia and spamming, but here we are.
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>>124783441
>>124783542
>>124783612
Medieval and renaissance lutes were of varying sizes, so the pic does indeed shows a fat lute, but not uncommon. And if the fella likes big fat lutes, well.
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>>124783738
indeed, it’s hard to care about something that doesn’t exist. a concept difficult for The Raped to understand, i’m sure.
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>>124783775
an interesting premise, i wonder what bollywood will do with it.
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Dumb and Dumber are here again dudes!!! Let them throw pies at each other!!
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>>124783792
Sadly it turns ouT the janny can use capitals when their schizophrenia allows it they just choose not to out of hatred and ignorance
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>>124783747
Don't fear the fat lute when there were medieval siege weapons like this
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>>124783828
are capital letters of great importance in the caste system or something? is that why you’re obsessed with them?
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>>124783846
I don’t know, I’m not familiar with India. They are generally used in the English language though
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>>124783876
strange to not know anything about your native culture, must be part of why you’re so mentally deranged.
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Oops I’ve triggered the sisterposters Indian fixation again! We all know he’s currently obsessed with Indians it’s his new thing, it used to be trannies. Oops
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>>124783757
>something that doesn’t exist
Yet you went to sleep at 4AM and slept for less than 5 hours, won't stop making deluded claims and replying to me. So all true, insomutt.
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>>124783950
Checked /pol/ archives recently, many threads seem to be about jeets now, maybe he should head back there.
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>>124784046
It's a known fact that sistershitter is a hybrid of a /mu/ tourist and /pol/fag reject
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>>124783950
you can be an indian tranny if you wish, no complaints from me on that front.
>>124784018
you have a really poor understanding of my daily schedule lol, focus on figuring your own life out Raped.
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>>124784247
>you have a really poor understanding of my daily schedule lol
Well he’s not one of your psych ward doctors you can’t expect him to have this information in detail
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>>124784420
if we’re being frank, i don’t expect anything from indians
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>>124784247
March onwards from circus to psych ward and leave /classical/ anons to actually discuss and share music, let this place have humor and interaction, just simply, kindly leave, we would all be grateful.
>>124784247
lol
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>He’s talking about Indians again
Oh dear. Whatever medicine they’re giving them isn’t strong enough
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>>124784420
>>124784511
kek
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Verdi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMf8SZQn18k
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>>124784510
sorry, could you translate that one from hindi to english to me please? thanks.
>>124784511
>noooooooo stop talking about my people!
LOL, the lady doth protest too much.
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>>124783840
kek your modern house can be invalidated by that instrument
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>>124784547
Head onwards to psych ward.
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>>124784547
>INDIA, INDIA, INDIA, INDIA!!!!
Time for you throzine anon
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>>124784750
beg me with a pretty please, the same way you begged your uncle not to Rape you.
>>124784763
i can’t help myself sar, i’m just in awe of your people.
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>>124784772
Time for the psych ward certificate! Onwards, soldier!
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>>124784851
you’re not begging politely enough, Raped. this is why your uncle destroyed your asshole btw
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>This thread is for the discussion of classical music in the western tradition. And India
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>>124784864
The ceremony will begin shortly, dress up into your clown suite, hurry!
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>>124784878
The Raped was complaining about the description “western tradition” in the OP a few weeks ago, so it’s only fitting that we talk about his people’s traditions (of Raping kids).
>>124784896
i’m not convinced. i think you need to beg me even more politely with tears in your eyes. reenact the performance you gave your uncle but with more passion.
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>>124784909
Back onwards to colorful circus, you gotta get dressed for the psych ward ceremony.
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>>124784939
you’re a really bad salesman, anyone ever tell you that? you’re horribly uncharismatic. and sure, you can blame that on your Rape, but i think some of it is just you being a plain unflattering person regardless. maybe it’s an indian thing.
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>>124784909
India?
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Liebestod!
(What an awful and melanated cover kek)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nk942AR1EY&list=OLAK5uy_nHr49b5my67iZzAuRWArNy1eG8lK57OYE&index=2&pp=8AUB

Okay here's the actual deal, if the sistershitter chord goes unresolved until March (onwards to psych ward!), - almost as long as the Tristan chord goes unresolved - I promise I'll stop replying to him completely. Otherwise, he can always choose a peaceful path.
>>124784957
March onwards to psych central
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>>124784985
yes, The Raped’s heimat, as the germans would say.
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>How to ruin a general
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>>124785002
i get to bully you for another 3 whole months? how generous! i couldn’t ask for anything more.
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>>124785005
Yes India, India
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>>124785019
The deal has to be signed firsg, otherwise it will last for 3 years min, insomutt.
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>>124785011
The worst thing is the trannyjanny probably feels no shame about this
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>>124785029
india, india, heimat Der Raped.
>>124785037
oh please, don’t tempt me! 3 years of making fun of your ruined asshole is simply too generous an offer!
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>>124785047
As you did not ask for the terms of the deal, I'm afraid we'll have to cancel it. Head onwards to psych ward now!
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>>124785079
3 months, 3 years, 3 decades, i’ll take as much as you’re offering! i love having my own little pet lolcow for me to take a fat shit on everytime i’m in the mood for a verbal punching bag.
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>>124785094
I'm listening, tell us more about your hallucinations like you told the doctors over at the hospital
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idk if you guys listen to opera but i have been obssesed with this aria lately
Callas sing it divinely well (another great interpretation is shirley verrett)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkyyUz3HAZ4&ab_channel=MariaCallas-Topic
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>>124785118
well there’s this gay little indian zigger freak on /classical/ that i love to bully, and he’s a real glutton for abuse! he even offered to be at my beck and call everytime i feel like giving him a virtual swirlie! what a real trooper.
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>>124785137
I'm sure the psychiatrists were in awe of those hallucinations of yours.
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>>124785130
India?
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>>124785159
i’m in awe of how much punishment you can take and how loyal you are, you’re like my own little gremlin that i can smash up everytime i feel like you’re looking especially ugly that day.
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>>124785173
The psychiatrists would like this story I presume
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>>124785130
You know I don't usually listen to India, but this was actually quite India. India Indianon
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>>124785177
not more than i like roughing you up and shoving you into lockers online.
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>>124785190
Is that what you say to the psychiatrists every day? LOL
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>>124785196
no, just you, my dear little Raped.
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>>124785130
She has that low end gargle, not really helped by the recording quality. The role isn't really suited to her vocal range. I think Waltraud Meier is the one I prefer of all I have heard in this aria.
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>>124785203
I guess by "you", you meant the psychiatrists, but the insomnia has damaged your brain beyond repair. Oh well!
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>>124785162
?? Why you guys keep saying India lol
I'm french
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>>124785225
english isn’t your first (or second, or third) language, so let me help you out. “you” means the “person” (LOL) i’m speaking to, the gay little indian zigger Raped freak who’s addicted to receiving constant punishment from me and always comes back for seconds.
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I would have posted several interesting posts about late Beethoven works, and obscure quality recordings, but not sure if I should bother in this shithole anymore.
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>>124785253
Interesting posts about music are always welcome!
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>>124785234
I'm french and what is this?
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>>124785253
Indian posts about Indian are always India!
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>>124785248
Sanity isn't your thing at all, so let me help you out. "You" and "indian" in this instance implied a psychiatrist you've been seeing.
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>>124785279
nah, just the little faggot zigger Raped freak who’s a glutton for my abuse on the /classical/ music thread on 4chan.org. have i made myself clear enough, Raped faggot?
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>>124785285
The lack of sanity shows itself once more! Maybe seeing psychiatrists didn't help, but psych ward will!
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>>124785210
I get that many ppl don't like her but desu i love her on so much stuff
Dalila is not really suited for her fach but she do it perfectly in my opinion
Just listened to Waltraud Meier she sound good but she does not respect the sheet music on some part and i love this song how it is written but thanks for your recommendation she have a beautiful voice !
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>>124785253
Do it, its the only to counter dumb & dumber.
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>>124785296
screaming “LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” isn’t going to unRape you, Raped. your asshole still needs sutures no matter what you convince yourself of.
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feels like a Rite of Spring and other Stravinsky ballets day
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>>124785267
What is what ?
Why are ppl so cryptic in this place lol
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>>124785302
Meier has one of the most beautiful Das Lied von der Erde recordings with Heppner and Maazal if you're in to that.
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>>124785308
The lack of sanity is especially strong here, keep going. The psych ward might come at your doorsteps.
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>>124785342
Wow she does sound divine in this thank you !
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Can you guys explain to me what india mean here i'm new and i really dont get it
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>>124785342
i would have preferred going my whole life not knowing that maazel did a das lied, if we’re being honest.
>>124785368
you mean like how your uncle came in your asshole when he anally Raped you?
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>>124785382
Well now you know about maazel you can kill yourself can't you.
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>>124785421
unfortunately not, i shall be burdened to live on knowing that yet another subpar conductor decided to take on a work totally unfitting for their interpretative predilections.
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One reviewer writes:
>Let’s first deal with the fact that most of us here don’t need yet another recording of anything in the standard rep, and this is about as standard as it gets. But an exception can always be made for the exceptional, and to my ears, this recording is exceptional in many ways.

And yet another:
>Just awful
>This guy is so bad and so overrated. Pushes and pulls the pulse likevtaffy, but to no purpose.

Yay or nay?
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>>124785342
Neat, will check it out, thanks. Been a while since I last listened to Das Lied.
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>>124785470
Always yay, listen and make your own mind up
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>>124785470
makela is genuinely fucking awful, and there’s no better way to prove it than listening to it for yourself. you’ll have a hard time finding a more faceless recording of the rite of spring, and that’s really saying something considering the work was written and recorded by a guy who believed that his own music expressed absolutely no emotions whatsoever.
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>>124785497
Gotta make efficient use of one's time! Plus it's to spur some discussion, if possible.

>>124785536
>and that’s really saying something considering the work was written and recorded by a guy who believed that his own music expressed absolutely no emotions whatsoever.
lol fair enough
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>>124785564
stravinsky had some truly bizarre opinions on his own music (and others’ too, but that’s besides the point), and somehow makela legitimately managed to churn out a recording of the ballets russes that’s completely lacking in any sort of personal character and interest, moreso than stravinsky’s own recordings. it’s honestly fucking incredible, it’d be funny if there weren’t neighbor cattle stupid enough to think that it was good.
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Kremer's Bach

start of J.S. Bach: Sonata for Violin Solo No. 2 in A minor, BWV 1003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iebZ2EtGvf8&list=OLAK5uy_nuVoy-zY743WrCCVtf6BAbkGryf0Hm7gk&index=13

>Generally acknowledged as the lonesome peak of the rich literature for the violin, both pleasurable and highly philosophical, JS Bach's Sonatas and Partitas are the greatest challenge for any virtuoso, next to Paganini's "Capricci". In his liner notes Gidon Kremer refers to them as "the Himalayas" for the violin. Bach completed them in 1720, when he was Kapellmeister at the court of Koethen. Three four-part Sonatas alternate with suite-like Partitas consisting basically of dances compiled in a very individual manner. In contrast to the conventional use of the violin as a melody instrument, Bach entrusts it with elaborate polyphonic structures, especially in the Fugues of the Sonatas and in the Chaconne from the second Partita, one of the most overwhelming pieces ever written for any instrument. But the cycle's extraordinary musical quality lies in the width, variety and grandeur built by only a single violin. Personnel: Gidon Kremer (violin)

>Mr. Kremer is a violonist of consummate refinement and technique -- Daniel J. Wakin, The New York Times - September 11, 2005

Such a dope cover.
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>>124785536
>>124785593
I'm surprised you didn't like it trannnyjanny that's not like you at all
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>>124785525
Largo e spiccato, slow and bouncy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI9EPUtmh2o
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>>124785677
i’m not surprised you’re replying to me, obsessed schizo sister.
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>>124785593
Levi's it is then, one of the recordings listed as a reference on CT and I feel like trying a new one.

start of Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring, Pt. 1 "L'adoration de la terre" (1947 Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoNIbpxJDXw&list=OLAK5uy_khD30kw_17lCtPdvpy86cXRZA9iBn7nBQ&index=1

>These two ballets represent the opposite extremes of Stravinsky's creative personality. On the one hand, there's The Rite of Spring, the ultimate expression of musical primitivism (so much so that it served as "dinosaur" music in Disney's Fantasia). On the other hand, there's Pulcinella, and elegant neo-classical confection based on the music of Italian Baroque masters, Pergolesi in particular. Even if they have little else in common, both pieces require pinpoint rhythmic accuracy, and they are smartly performed here. But beyond the high general standard of performance, The Rite of Spring demands superior recording quality; it's one of those audio demo pieces, and in that regard Telarc has really stepped up to the plate. So go ahead; blow up your speakers! --David Hurwitz
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>>124785711
no, i’m serious when i say you should listen to makela’s ballet russes for yourself. it’s a great firsthand experience of how sickeningly inept and nepotistic the modern conducting scene is and should quickly dispel any goodwill or notions of competence rising to the top that you may hold.
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>This video is only available to Music Premium members
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>>124785711
pray tell what does levi and hurwitz have in common?
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>>124785739
Oh wtf, never seen that before. Sorry. Here's a different recording by Kremer of the same work that should be available. My bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL3RaMZOwUo&list=OLAK5uy_nT89d6hw7PPsaefAofnPg-o8QAkaXltgA&index=5
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>>124785763
both are old as balls?
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>>124785772
thanks
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>>124785772
what do levi hurwitz and kremer have in common?
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>>124785730
>and should quickly dispel any goodwill or notions of competence rising to the top that you may hold.
Stop building a profile of my posts and opinions!

But nah I will soon, his recordings keep popping up near the very top of search results on Amazon for many works with high ratings and rave reviews, so I was bound to finally try him out, avoiding him until now because of what you've said about him.
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>>124785798
>>124785763
Two syllable last names? I get it, anon.
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If you are not in the mood for Bach, you can always try (one of the others) Bach.
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>>124785803
honestly, i wouldn't even avoid conductors that i shittalk, because it's always good to know why they're being dunked on firsthand; and especially with living conductors, to get a grasp on what modern conducting styles are like (bad)
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>>124785798
>>124785763
maybe you goyim ought to get gud
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>>124785856
I presume you've been to countless live performances, yeah? So given your views on contemporary conductors and musicians, have you almost always left these concerts disappointed? I guess that requires expectations -- so dissatisfied?
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>>124785998
right, because there's no way that the abnormal and mathematically impossible representation is the result of networking. it's got to be the result of talent. they earned their positions through hard work, sweat and long hours without sleep.
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>>124786113
You forgot the link, that looks intriguing. Fug it I'll look it up.
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https://files.catbox.moe/z7d3l6.mp3
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>>124786097
i go in with no expectations, always. unless i already know i like the performer (usually the case with piano solo performers and chamber groups), then i give myself the rare privilege of expecting a good performance.
>>124786113
all high profile positions in all industries are achieved first and foremost through networking, not competence. you have an extremely naive understanding of the world, which is expected from a tranime schizo.
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>>124786144
we both understand that networking is an important factor in profile positions, and yet i'm naive? you're arguement makes no sense as expected of a retarded zoomer.
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>>124785711
Just finished this, fantastic recording, if anyone wants to listen to a new Rite and Pulcinella Suite.
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>>124786157
complaining about it is for children, it has been like that throughout the entire history of the world and it will always be like that for the rest of humankind's existence.
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>>124786168
pointing something out isn't complaining. it's a matter of fact observation.
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>>124786185
pointing out it repetitively ad nauseam can in fact constitute complaining, or worse, nagging and whinging.
also, putting hurwitz in the same breath as kremer or levi is pretty funny, as if being a gay music critic who lives and will die alone is some sort of coveted industry status.
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>>124786205
i understand that you get upset when people point out things that may not be so apparent to others. i happen to find it interesting to note when a reviewer promotes people of similar backgrounds as himself and it's not like he doesn't take note of it either. what ends up happening as a result is that other people find these reviews and adopt these performers. is there anything about what i just stated difficult to understand, and if so, what part?
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>>124786272
or maybe consider the idea that a huge chunk of classical musicians (both prominent and obscure) from the midcentury are legitimately jewish, and as a result any survey of recordings from said eras (or even in general, there are still plenty of jews in classical music, even if it's less than 50 years ago) will result in a whole truckload of jews being named.
it's often been noted that of all the great midcentury violin virtuosi, only grumiaux was not jewish. if not milstein, or heifetz, or stern, or oistrakh, then who would YOU rather play the the brahms violin concerto or the bach sonatas and partitas? what legitimate competition do they have?
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What is the comfy hour for this general? Do the schizos have a time pattern to avoid?
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>>124786272
It's a given someone will more enthusiastically promote someone they think is good if they also like them, whether personally or some kind of kinship or group preference. However, I think they, or at least the vast majority, would only do so if they genuinely thought the performer to be talented in the first place. So are some people not in those groups yet of equal talent missing out? Most likely. But not to someone undeserving.

My point is I think you go too far.
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>>124786373
The current topic is a legitimate one, and interesting too, regarding the rise and promotion and rewarding of lucrative positions for the people who produce the music we're all here to listen to and talk about. Just skip it or tune it out if you don't agree, focus on the music, read something else, and wait for a new discussion, or start your own.
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>>124786327
what is mass produced onto the market is not indicative of the talent from people aroudn the world who have tried to get their material published, seen or heard. moreover it costs a lot of money for the equipment to produce quality sound. as for what we're left with, it's a result of what i had pointed out earlier. that isn't to suggest that it isn't performed well or sounds good. szeryng is an amazing violinist who i think happens to have the best brahms violin concerto and bach sonatas. i like his playing—a LOT. as for the current representation, it's ridiculous to assume it's a natural occurrence. i think what's missing from your end is the industry capture of many sectors as a result of something that happened at the beginning of the 20th century.
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>>124780138
>Schopenhauer
Wasn't he just a discount Guénon?
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>>124786422
>what is mass produced onto the market is not indicative of the talent from people aroudn the world who have tried to get their material published, seen or heard.
then show us an example of these overlooked, underappreciated non-jewish violin virtuosi capable of rivaling milstein and oistrakh.
>it's ridiculous to assume it's a natural occurrence.
there are no natural occurrences in anything ever. team sports athletes are disproportionately born in the beginning of the year because they get assigned to the same grade as their slightly younger (and therefore less physically developed) peers, do better in team sports tryouts, and get more opportunities handed to them as a result. read gladwell's outliers, there is no "fair" or "natural" in this world. everyone is subject to some sort of unfair advantage or disadvantage regardless of what they choose to pursue.
if jewish culture led to an entire race of neurotic word lawyers who get tiger momed from youth into being prodigies, that's their cultural advantage that gave them a step up at being virtuoso violinist and pianists in the mid 20th century. blame everyone else for not adopting the same attitude, if you feel the need to cast the blame somewhere.
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>>124779735
Bach is shit.
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>>124786489
Bach is (the) shit
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>>124786373
they sperg at random
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>>124786480
>cultural advantage
i've heard that one before, and to think you called me naive. as for an example of overlooked, underappreciated performers i've already told you that i wouldn't know about them. the only reason i know about szeryng, milstein etc is because their performances have been selected to be mass produced. it's an influential and frankly political factor. that isn't a schizo rambling, geopolitics is a real thing, okay, and it is evident in every kind of medium for media, including classical.
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bach sucks cock
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Good music
>Bach (Set the quality standard tier)
>Mozart
>Gesualdo
>Haydn
>Lotti
>Zelenka
>Byrd
>Ramsey
>Palestrina
>von Biber
>Buxtehude
>Martin Kraus
>Monteverdi
>Sorabji
>Schoenberg
>Rameau
>Berg
>Stockhausen
>Handel
>CPE Bach

Bad music
>Beethoven (Ruined music tier)
>Rossini
>Brahms
>Wagner
>Mahler
>Tchaikovsky
>Shostakovich
>Chopin
>Debussy
>Satie
>Saint-Saens
>Holst
>Williams
>von Weber
>Zimmer
>Gounod
>Cage
>Glass
>Verdi
>Schumann
>Schubert

Non-music:
>rest of /mu/

Active satanic work:
>fucking Jazz
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>can't even write one(1) good opera
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>tfw Bartok's string quartets are finally starting to click

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6UVyyPgYk&list=OLAK5uy_m_2TbPbJW7ZiP4M2rm0IGnaCearC55yLs&index=9

>>124786555
lol that filename
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>>124786527
>as for an example of overlooked, underappreciated performers i've already told you that i wouldn't know about them.
then why hypothesize about something you can't prove exists?
>the only reason i know about szeryng, milstein etc is because their performances have been selected to be mass produced.
we don't live in the 1960s dude, the internet has given us full access to plenty of brilliant performers who were underrecorded, for example ernst levy (yes he's fucking jewish, shut up already). if there was some sort of non-jewish violinist who was great enough to stack up to szeryng, it would not be a massive labor to find at least one recording of them playing a paganini caprice or a beethoven violin sonata. perhaps if you can't prove that they exists, maybe consider that they really just don't.
>geopolitics is a real thing
sure, geopolitics influenced classical music; that's why the czech orchestras went underrecorded for the better part of a century. if you want to prove that jewish virtuosi succeeded purely because of jewish nepotism and not because jews are fucking crazy freaks who raise their children like animals though, you'll have to do a little better than that.
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I see a lot of degenerate philistines saying that Bach is “greatest composer to have ever lived” and I can’t believe my eyes when I see such a statement so today I will explain why Bach is the worst composer to have ever lived.

He’s just counterpoint, there’s no polyphony, no melody, no harmony, nothing. Just counterpoint. Listen to his invention no.8 in f major for reference, where’s the melody? Exactly, there is no melody. Surely someone who is the “greatest composer” would know more then just writing pretty canons and fugues!

He didn’t write an opera. At first this doesn’t seem like a big deal but to be one of the greats (i.e Brahms Chopin, Liszt) you have to write everything including a opera. Bach never wrote an opera. The closest he wrote was a bunch of boring cantatas that have no purpose whatsoever.

He had no sense of dynamics and other markings. I recently opened up my 50 dollar Henle urtext from the Juilliard store that had Bach’s well tempered clavier and I saw no dynamics, no crescendo, no tempo, nothing. It was just the notes, to be a great musician you have to understand dynamics and phrasing not just knowing how to write notes on a manuscript paper. I then opened up my 100 dollar Henle urtext also from the Juilliard store Beethoven sonatas and I saw so much expression details which there is none in Bach.

I already see you philistines typing trying to say something to dispute my knowledge and facts and I would be more then happy to answer your questions.

“No one is more hated than He who speaks the truth" -Plato
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>>124786571
did wim winters really say this?????
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I don't get Prokofiev.
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>>124786580
Yes.
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>>124786595
truly unbelievable.
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Some days I feel like Paganini was more skilled at composing than Bach.
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>>124786581
His music is pretty normal, only with some quirks added in. Or to quote one reviewer:

>In academic circles, Prokofiev's music is often disparaged. My professor used to tell the story of how the composer would finish a piece and then go through it again, "putting in the wrong notes".

Which pieces did you try? His 5th symphony, piano concertos, violin concertos are the best place to start in my opinion. Oh and the piano sonatas. And cello sonata.
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>>124786581
there's nothing to get, he sucks.
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now playing

start of Brahms: 7 Fantasies, Op. 116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjgs_8flZU&list=OLAK5uy_mnl-M-pP4DMMPiOqmZKmjxg5gUgGbWwdw&index=1

Can't go wrong with Paul Lewis.
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god DAMN strauss is fucking boring
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>>124786570
mathematically impossible representations are proven by statistics, and from that you make deductions on the reasons fro something occurring. your argument is that it's a "cultural advantage" and my position is a little different. this back and forth isn't going to add anything of value.
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>>124786653
nice bait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C2caxBI1Ic&list=OLAK5uy_knFXeWkBjHqwf00YX2haT5V3rk05l6fZ4&index=1
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>>124786657
>mathematically impossible representations are proven by statistics
yes, mathematically impossible representations like jews, whites and asians overrepresenting the classical music listening and performance populations, while blacks and hispanics are virtually nonexistent. there really shouldn't be any surprise nor need to point out any of these.
>from that you make deductions on the reasons fro something occurring
deductions are meant to be based on tangible facts, not rampant speculation. mine are based on historical accounts of successful jewish virtuosi who all unanimously account being worked like dogs as children. in fact, this is probably the case for all virtuosi period; one does not simply become heifetz by picking up the violin at the ripe age of 25.
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>>124786691
>one does not simply become heifetz by picking up the violin at the ripe age of 25.

So you're saying I don't have a chance? :(
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A stodgy autismal over-conservative music professor and fugue-fetishist was teaching a class on Johann Sebastian Bach, known lardass.

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship the Baroque era and accept that it was the most productive period in the history of Western art music, even more than Viennese Classicism!”

At this moment a brave, impeccably dressed, inebriated contemporary composer who had just snorted a line of coke off a teenage classmate's back and understood the folly of a(r/u)tistic movements such as serialism and fully supported the preservation and continuation of the true old masters' legacies stood and held up a composition notebook.

”Professor, do you recognize this piece?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Lutheranly as he leafed through the notebook. "Why, there's nothing in here but blank manuscript paper, you stupid pedophile. Is it 4'33"?"

"No. It's an opera. If J.S. Bach, as you say, is categorically the greatest composer of all time... then he should have written one, and it should be in this book."
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>>124786709
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and 80-disc Glenn Gould boxed set. He stormed out of the room crying those Bach fanboy crocodile tears. The same tears all autismal fanboys cry when someone else's favorite composer is different from theirs. There is no doubt at all that our professor, an anonymous craven coward who balked at accepting responsibility for his 4chan posts by using a tripcode on /mu/, wished he had taken the time to appreciate music beneath its surface aesthetics and understand the incalculable grace and poise of the great Classical masterpieces and deep intellectual current which runs beneath their simple veneer. Placing his lips around the barrel of his handgun, he wished so much for a requiem mass to be sung at his funeral, but alas! The lazy Bach had neglected to write any of those, either!

The students applauded and all finally "got" Mozart that day and the patricians among them split into groups to form chamber ensembles. A firetruck roared past outside and the plebeians in the class, mistaking it for their favorite Tchaikovsky pieces, rushed out into the street to listen and were flattened. A bird named Franz Schubert flew into the room but the meme didn't catch on and it left before anyone noticed. The Heiligenstadt Testament was read aloud several times and the Great Patrician himself showed up to congratulate everyone on their good taste.

That young composer's name? Ulysse "Tallis" Bouchard.
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i'm singing the brahms requiem next year and i need to get the work in my head, and i've gotten tired of klemperer fucking with the structure of every piece he conducts so that the form is incomprehensible. does anyone have any alternative reference worth recordings of it that won't put me to sleep like blomstedt?
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>>124786542
swap mahler and sorabji
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>>124786691
>mathematically impossible representations
it makes it all the more exciting when anon posts and i get to point out the tidlewave of like-backgrounds
>mine are based on historical accounts
maybe it's because you're so ardent on being correct that you've chosen to be selective in your response. need i remind you that something major happened with the people of a specific background at the beginning of the 20th century. why are you ignoring my posts to push your narrative? could it have anything to do with you being a young retard?
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>>124786742
>it makes it all the more exciting when anon posts and i get to point out the tidlewave of like-backgrounds
i don't think it's terribly exciting for the rest of us, but sure, go ahead.
>need i remind you that something major happened with the people of a specific background at the beginning of the 20th century
please, do remind me. though do note, not music = not interested.
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>>124786716
I'll never get tired of reading these.

>At this moment a brave, impeccably dressed, inebriated contemporary composer who had just snorted a line of coke off a teenage classmate's back and understood the folly of a(r/u)tistic movements such as serialism and fully supported the preservation and continuation of the true old masters' legacies stood and held up a composition notebook.

literally me

>>124786726
Kegel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlLR8K7zZQ0&list=OLAK5uy_lQyLLBEJLt0wbkbmLGX85hCGQlfvIqwHI&index=1

Kubelik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtLymMIj-A&list=OLAK5uy_mdEGKfa-c9kBWVrZCyWh4voILgrXdUxzg&index=1

Previn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izwFiaJoh2g&list=OLAK5uy_kB9fXUhmnlb0jYBa0lMguODr1RCF44SBY&index=1

All very different with their own strengths. The first one will probably be the most useful to you for singing it. Karajan's is still my favorite for pleasure but I assume you've heard it.
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But seriously though
Beethoven > Mozart > Bach
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>>124786761
not interested, got it. that's the young retard who spams the general day in and day out. this back and forth was utterly pointless. it's in fact no different from our previous engagement which we had a million threads ago, our only engagement.
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>>124786783
yes, i am not interested in discussing nonmusical topics. because i am a musician posting on the music board in a thread about classical music. if you have something to post that’s related to music, feel free to, i’m all ears.
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>>124786783
You're just as bad as him anon
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>>124786820
One's autistic and one's schizo. they got decent taste tho
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>>124786819
>yes, i am not interested in discussing nonmusical topics. because i am a musician posting on the music board in a thread about classical music. if you have something to post that’s related to music, feel free to, i’m all ears.
you spam the general day in and day out
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>>124786856
feel free to post something related to music whenever you’re ready.
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>>124786985
pointing out the background of performers is music related. also, don't you feel ashamed by that green text and image?
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>>124787002
yes, which is why i discussed the upbringing of jewish virtuosi. you, on the other hand, seem intent on talking about some unspecified historical event which, as far as i can tell, has nothing to do with music. you’re free to prove me wrong by relating it to music though.
why would i be ashamed of schizophrenic babble?
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>>124787064
you don't think production and public relations is related to music? you should be ashamed because the statement is at odds with your behavior.
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>>124778894
>yes, i am not interested in discussing nonmusical topics. because i am a musician posting on the music board in a thread about classical music. if you have something to post that’s related to music, feel free to, i’m all ears.
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Somehow this guy is even more autistic than the sisterposter
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>>124787086
feel free to post your musically related historical event whenever you’re ready. and no, i don’t really care about some schizo compilation made by obsessed trannies and reposted by pedophiles.
>>124787105
i have been le owned by le mass reply
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>>124787178
>feel free to post your musically related historical event whenever you’re ready.
you wouldn't consider it musically related even though geopolitics has shaped the music industry more than you care to know
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