Handel EditionThis thread is for the discussion of classical music in the western tradition. Early Music, Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic and Modern all welcome.Hossen plays Handel Violin Sonata Op. 1 No. 3https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpvD58bw1k>How do I get into classical?This outdated link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious>>124738309
>>124757797What's on the Christmas backlog?
speaking of Christmas, this came out just a couple months ago, just in time for this year's holiday season. I usually avoid Gardiner but can't hurt to give it a go
>>124757880you can certainly hurt your ears, especially when HIP is involved
>>124757870>Eybler, Joseph - Christmas Oratorio - Alsfelder Vokalensemble, Bremer Domchor>Ryba, Jacub Jan - Czech Christmas Mass - Choir and Orchestra of the Czech Madrigalists, František Xaver Thuri>Nativity - Christmas music from Georgian England>Various - A Service for Advent with Carols - St John's College Choir, Cambridge (Christopher Gray)And more
>>124757915I am a baroque and early music guy, so yes. But always open to all classical music.
>>124757911...is any of that music?Kidding. Neat. Idiosyncratic, consistent choices.>>124757930Well hopefully you learn to love some more stuff in the 20th century.
>>124757955>Well hopefully you learn to love some more stuff in the 20th century.Yeah, and to be clear I dont dislike it. Just not in my favs or current rotation.
Meanwhile, back to dancing. Partying like its 1578!
>>124757979Easy dude, keep it in your pants, we are not in la maisons de tolérance.
>>124757858Only a Sith deals in absolutes
>>124757911>>124757880Added to the list
>>124757909HaHa!!!
>>124758027As >>124757909 suggests, I can't guarantee or even vouch for the quality of Gardiner's Bach Christmas Oratorio; you have been warned!
>>124758041I dont have that attention to detail, It will be enough for me unless a cat screams in the middle of the recording
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGHf6zsoLE
>>124758097>It will be enough for me unless a cat screams in the middle of the recordingit may as well be exactly that, considering how HIP strings sound
>>124758097lol I feel you but you'd be surprised how different divergent interpretations and distinct performances can be.Herreweghe (also HIP):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ouibH3G2xk&list=OLAK5uy_nKVjxKRSY5clTjqATXAX6PF5TTOuAa-fg&index=1Gardiner (HIP, 2024)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX-v4jTson8&list=OLAK5uy_kCxcSBwoou1_f6r8zWGNc-TrRMoF8Fx-M&index=1Richter (traditional, whose is my normal go-to)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSc_lHAqcHg&list=OLAK5uy_kkHu2VLxhu-3V3egwN2kWv3oQsxmNzpeo&index=120Chailly ('third-way,' my current favorite)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF4Ujem9ntc&list=OLAK5uy_l_GoUlLE4jSR5ta6tbm2Q5019DbtDxDPc&index=1
>>124758132Another zinger!! This person is like the Jerry Seinfeld of classical!
>>124758132Kek>>124758144Thanks anon, will sample those
>>124758167what's the deal with HIP? it sounds like shit, the conductors don't know what they're doing, the singers sound like dying geese, and it all costs extra!
>>124758248lol>HIP? More like SHIT
>>124758248ROFLMAO XD
>>124758355It was funny, chill.
Mendelssohnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOjXKUvoJeU
trying Segerstam's Sibelius cyclehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji173Rb1xAA&list=OLAK5uy_nf8F0t3qK-FjDLqU9qy_mpEQ2rXMwl8UY&index=18Many of the reviews I've read draw a distinction between the old school generation, characterized by lush, passionate, Romantic interpretations, consisting of Karajan, Bernstein, and Barbirolli, and a new, cooler approach exemplified by the likes of Berglund and Segerstam. So, should be fun finding out firsthand!
>>124758422I know that’s why I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass over- I’m still laughing now in fact
>>124758517>romantic>karajanwhen will this retarded meme end?
Schumannhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73mNjBIYF0
>>124758628Good question
>>124758628???
>>124758679karajan wasn't a romantic. furtwangler was a romantic. weingartner was a romantic. mengelberg was a romantic. jochum was a romantic. karajan was a modernist who complained that classical musicians were too used to playing loose tempi and performing rubato instead of being strictly metronomic like jazz and rock musicians. he literally could not be further fro the romantic style of conducting in any regard.
>>124758933>instead of being strictly metronomic like jazz and rock musicians???
>>124759512>'Yes, it is. It is very strange, but with our race and in our latitude, rhythmic control is the most difficult thing for a musician to achieve. There is hardly a musician among us who can play the same note five times without minor variations. Part of the fault is that rhythm is never taught correctly to young musicians. For the Negro or African, it comes naturally - this sense of rhythm. As for myself, I can tolerate wrong notes, but I cannot stand unstable rhythm. Perhaps I was born in Africa in another existence. Once in Vienna after we had finished a recording session, I surprised everyone by telling them I was going to hear a Louis Armstrong concert. When they asked why? I told them that to go to a concert and know that for two hours the music would not get faster or slower was a great joy to me.'
After yesterday's post I got interested in picrel. Listening right now.
Racism and antisemitism are wrong.
>>124759632Nice. It's honestly so good I'm no longer gonna search out new recordings for a while, it's exactly what I've been looking for. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Now to find the perfect (modern) recording of the Solo Violin Sonatas and Partitas. That I'm still searching for.
>>124759604That's great, but Jazz and rock, especially rock musicians are not known for playing in 'strict metronomic time' lol quite the opposite in fact
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrTCIhU4KWc
>>124760211Actual footage of a ghost! That's incredible
Haydn Symphony No. 6 'Le Matin'
>>124759948well according to karajan they were, and it’s what he aspired to, which is completely contradictory to the romantic style of conducting.
>>124760673*Karajan
>>124760780yes, that's what i said, thank you.
I'm going to do it anons, wish me luck
>>124761212They both have Medieval themed last names
>>124761531Nomen est omen
A few days ago I listened to Vol. 1. Lets do Vol. 2 now.
>>124761894Visions of Johann
>>124761894>Cantorey>Canto Rey>Spanish for Song and King
>>124761899I would buy that album
>>124761894is he old chud?
>>124762618Sorry I dont speak the language of your people, wdym?
I have listened to almost the full backlog for today. Picrel is the last album in the list.
>>124762764They all look like Chudjaks without glasses
>>124762848>>124762668
https://youtu.be/g8irIf6WCOA?si=IN7VN-d09iaOIYhT
>>124763347I missed a small performance of the Nutcracker last week in my small town. Wasnt the full ballet but damn I would have loved to be there.
any other bassoon fans ? here is a solo showcase of the power of this noble instrument https://youtu.be/OTJGMmtLr1o?si=cDs5NeiR9nbLuLRY
>>124763820Not familiar with that instrument. I dont prefer winds, but I like the recorder because baroque. Will check that link anon.
>>124757759Seriously, why should species counterpoint be taught if Bach himself wasn't taught it?
For me, it's Terry Riley - In C.
>>124764574because the Leipzig method is too hard.
>>124764721qrd?
>>124764795when writing a countermelody, you must write out a four-part chorale and then remove the inner parts.
>>124764574The only surviving book from Bach's library was Fux's. So even if Bach had other methods, Fux's is more comprehensible and fits into today's music theory better.
>>124765398Bach was fifty before reading Fux so why should anyone care about species counterpoint?
>>124757759Bach is shit.Classical music is shit.You are gay and retarded.
>>124766188We get it, you're a soulless golem
>>124765638Because Bach is not the end of music, nor is he a beginning. If you think otherwise, you are free to "not care" about species counterpoint and do whatever the fuck your monkeybrain tells you to do.
Mahler 5 Adagietto should be at least 16 minutes long. Longer, the better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pthFFkCCwkMIn fact, 24 minutss is the best.
What are some properly high quality sets of mono recording for Beethoven and Mozart? I mean this in terms of literal sound quality. I love the Gold Seal recordings but the conductors are all meme-tier. Are there any good labels for mono recordings that have conductors known for their quality rather than their name?
>>124766456Why would you intentionally subject yourself to mono recordings? Are you a masochist? I get listening to X mono recording because it is your favorite performance of it, or simply exploring through various acclaimed recordings, but you gotta find something better to do, m8.
>>124766496I can't listen to stereo. And downmixing brings really shitty results. So my best bet are mono recordings of high quality
>>124766509>I can't listen to stereo.Why???
>>124766456I think it's just you that's meme tier
>>124766456>>124766509Mono? More like meme. There, now you're free to enjoy stereo because you're now aware mono is meme-tier, or whatever the hell is plaguing your mind and spirit.
>>124759632Did you like it?
>>124766265>Because Bach is not the end of music, nor is he a beginningkek
>>124766320most retarded post ever made on this site. Congratulations.
Handel's Messiah - I still can't enjoy anything as much as the Alldis version.
>>124767027I'll give it a try, thanks.
I guess I have to give pic rel another chance. I bought it years ago, listened to it once or twice and then completely forgot about it. It made no impression at all.
>>124767027ever tried Jeffrey Thomas?
>>124767060can I please please go the rest of my life without seeing this fat fuck's face again?
>>124766837Early stereo was good, when engineers knew what they were doing. But nowadays with enormously wide stereo separation and ridiculous dynamic range where you simply can't hear quiet passages at all, it's stereo that has become a meme. I'd take good mono over lousy stereo any day.
>>124767060Blomstedt's Requiem is very good, yeah. A tad too plain to be my favorite, but it's up there.
>>124767075Not sure. I'll look into it.
>>124767096>A tad too plainThat's what I thought, but even worse: insipid.
>>124767111There are so many other great ones, if you don't like any particular one, no need to bother with it again, just try another. They come in all shapes and sizes to satiate any taste.
>>124767125I know that, but the "greatest recording ever" entices me to go back. Karajan's Vienna recording remains my go-to
>>124767149>Karajan's Vienna recording remains my go-toSame, though lately I've been really partial to Rattle's for a softer, lyrical approach.
>>124767149"greatest recording ever" is bullshit and shitty marketing. You would expect classical listeners would understand that but they fall for the same nonsense every time and love making their little "greatest top 10 evah" lists like over sugared school kids.The score is the only recording that should be prioritised over others. But I supposed "preferred interpretation" doesn't sound committed enough for most.
>>124767184Cringe. We obviously understand 'greatest' just means 'preferred.' It's a combination of a rhetorical device and believing not all criteria for preferences are equal, ie some forms of objective greatness does exist, even if it's murky and not necessarily singular, hence the discussions.
o shi--, didn't know Bernstein had a Messiah recording. Guess I know my plans for the day! >>124767027 will have to wait until next time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcV3Zp4WuF0&list=OLAK5uy_l6h7USbQPe4CcWncRnQdp70wKOQDo8sMo&index=7
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fSwdAsq61QSingers sounds very unlike the usual HIP singing style I'm used to. Sounds more like she's trying to replicate the style you hear on early 78 recordings. I like it. But I'm no expert on singing.Levin's playing is lovely as usual.
>>124767213>no mom, it's not lazy bad writing and thinking its a rheetorical device, you wouldn't understand
>>124767260le literal autist has arrived
When Sibelius' music is performed and viewed as a Scandinavian Bruckner, it all begins to make sense and come alive. I know some people prefer the atmospheric, austere, diffusive soundscape approach to his music, and that's fine, but it's not for me, I like something concrete.
>>124767258Oberlin is an amazing soloist but Bernstein should be nowhere near the baroque, also the sound is pretty restricted sounds like it is recorded on cardboard.
>>124757759Where does one start with classical?
>>124767767Beethoven. Explore his masterpieces in each form -- symphonies, piano trio, piano sonatas, violin + cello sonatas, violin + piano concertos, etc. -- then branch out from there, either by composer (Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Brahms, Bach, Schumann, and so on) or by form (other great solo piano music, symphonies, concertos, etc.).
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>>124767767>>124767798To copy+paste an old comment I wrote:Try Beethoven's 3rd and 7th and then 9th symphonies. Mozart 39, 40, 41. Tchaikovsky 4 and 6. Dvorak 8 and 9. Schumann's and Brahms' symphonies, Haydn's Paris Symphonies, Bruckner's 5th and 7th and 8th, Mendelssohn's 3rd, 4th, and 5th.Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto no. 1. Beethoven piano concerto 4 and 5. Mozart piano concertos 19 through 27. Bach's Keyboard Concertos (I prefer the versions with piano, look up the ones performed by Schiff). Schumann's Piano Concerto. Rachmaninoff's other piano concertos (1, 3, 4).Beethoven and Brahms' and Tchaikovsky's and Dvorak's and Mendelssohn's violin concerto. Bach's violin concertos and double concerto.Beethoven's violin sonata 7, 8, 9, and 10. Bach's violin sonatas and partitas (1, 2, and 3 for both). Mozart's violin sonatas. Brahms' violin sonatas.Dvorak's cello concerto. Schumann's. Haydns'. Beethoven's cello sonata 3 and 4. Brahms' cello sonatas. Bach's cello suites. Prokofiev cello sonata. Mendelssohn cello sonata 2.Beethoven's piano sonatas, all of the ones that have a named title (eg Pathetique, Waldstein, Moonlight, Les Adiuex, Tempest). some Mozart piano sonatas. Bach's Well Tempered Clavier, both books. Schubert's piano sonatas D.960 and 959 and 958(?). Prokofiev piano sonata 6. Chopin Ballades and Etudes 10 and 25.Beethoven's string quartets 12-16. Mozart's 'Haydn' string quartets and string quintets. Brahms' string quintets. Dvorak's string quartet 12. Mendelssohn string quartet 6.Bach's cantatas, 51 and 140.Try a couple from each and keep exploring whichever form you like the most at that moment. Feel free to come back and ask whenever you can't decide and/or need help deciding on recordings (the recording, as in the interpretation and performance, matters a ton, as it can change the sound, power, and emotions of the music dramatically). Come back when you've listened to it all. Enjoy!
>>124767840That's actually not a bad idea, starting someone out on a conductor compilation. Provides good variety of masterpieces with solid performances.
>Were I a gambling man, which due to my upper Canadian Puritan inheritance I am of course not, I'm very inclined to place my money on the prospects for immortality of Arnold Schoenberg above and beyond any other composer who's lived in our era, I think.
>>124767767First off: Start with the Baroque period.Generally you need to understand the forms utilized in order to have any beyond surface-level appreciation, luckily I can at least spoonfeed you four common forms you can sink your teeth into quite easily and can get you into listening Baroque music like Bach, Vivaldi and Handel#1 RitornelloThis one is commonly found in Baroque concertos and is quite simple to follow: A melody is introduced in the beginning of the movement that keeps getting repeated, in-between each repetition you have the solo instruments playing a solo over the chord progression of the melody.Examples:https://youtu.be/lQLjP7x3Dughttps://youtu.be/ybwSoY5BuwYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfH3Gfkgzm8https://youtu.be/yHSstJusbWI2# Binary FormThe simplest one of the period, this has two sections: An A-section that repeats once, and then a B-section that repeats once (Note that the performer might also choose to not repeat the sections sometimes). That is it. It is quite simple but quite effective. You will be hearing this one a lot when listening to Baroque music. Most often found in suites (sometimes called Partitas), where all movements besides the prelude will be some type of binary form piece.Examples:Basically every movement in these pieces after their respective preludeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmJpbCLZpk8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQLXRTl3Z0
>>1247678983# The FugueOne of the most important of the period and one of the hardest forms to write, luckily it is not too difficult to listen to if you pay attention. The fugue has it's history in Gregorian chant, and therefore is written as if it were a vocal composition utilizing different "voices" which are slotted into each vocal voice range.A fugue begins with an exposition, this is the most important part for you to pay attention to: A single voice will introduce the subject (i.e main melody) of the fugue, this subject will then be repeated in another voice with the previous voice providing counterpoint (Different melodies that are meant to harmonize the main melody while also standing on their own). This repeats until every voice has played the melody once. After this, it is not too dissimilar from a ritornello (at least in the case of Bach), with the main melody returning in different voices. There will also often be counter-subjects present that also return, but this depends on the fugue.You will see the fugue almost everywhere in Baroque music (Note that most fugues are accompanied by a prelude, as noted in most titles. The prelude in the examples I give and 99% of the time is melodically disconnected from the fugue and mainly serves as a free form movement. Still, attention is warranted as they are as important as the fugue in terms of the overall expierence.)Examples:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbox4oi6HjAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfnkz1cFp8ghttps://youtu.be/BoXCHmLqh9k4# Theme and VariationsYou will find this one in almost all periods of classical music and therefore also the Baroque period. In it's early usage mainly used for church hymn melodies, it provides a main theme with a simple harmonization that then gets variations placed upon it based on that original theme.Examples:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF-2aJY6dpohttps://youtu.be/qnCqOKE9N4Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYfKWyeichEHappy listening, anon!
>>124767767Try Mozart, Beethoven and Bach.Then,Palestrina, Gesualdo, Lassus, Tallis, ByrdMonteverdi, Albinoni, Vivaldi, Telemann, PurcellHaydn, Gluck, Schubert, CPE Bach, CherubiniMendelssohn, Berlioz, Chopin, Liszt, Schumannthen music stops its okay u can stop listening to it
>>124757759Handel's probably the 2nd best composer ever after Wagner.
>>124767931For unto us a child is born!
>>124767807>where do i start?>just listen to the complete core repertoire lol
>>124767258>>124767683>This performance is demented. Leonard Bernstein cuts a bunch of numbers, and divides the piece into two parts instead of the usual three. He does use a countertenor (the strange-sounding Russell Oberlin), which was unusual in the late '50s when this was recorded, but his interpretation isn't just un-Baroque, it's also unlike anything else you could possibly imagine. Slow, heavy, and totally unidiomatic, this recording is valuable only to Bernstein fanatics. --David Hurwitzlmao
>>124768194I mean you don't wanna limit them to just one composer or form, so I provided a wide sampling. They aren't supposed to listen to it all in one afternoon, they can pick and choose. I've simply provided curated, succinct list from which to choose from. Ideally they go through whichever form or composer or period interests them most on the list, ie going through all of the violin sonatas or all of the stuff by Beethoven or Tchaikovsky. However, really.
now playingstart of Dvořák: String Quintet No. 3 in E-Flat Major, Op. 97, B. 180https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drM5gDUNOzU&list=OLAK5uy_nx9XiwIo8jX8gAwHx_YMeR0Ql6NhRoTZI&index=2start of Dvořák: String Sextet in A Major, Op. 48https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAmNBUjHVns&list=OLAK5uy_nx9XiwIo8jX8gAwHx_YMeR0Ql6NhRoTZI&index=5Two of Dvorak's chamber masterpieces, performed by the Raphael Ensemble.
>>124767767just listen to Schoenberg
redpill me on pierre monteux
>>124768722Old and stuffy, not worth listening to. His Daphnis et Chloé is ok. Better off listening to Markevitch
New day, new album from the backlog. Lets start with Joseph Haydn.
>>124768743Thanks. I was ogling a 5-cd set of recordings he made for philips in london and amsterdam, to be had quite cheap. But i see they were made in the last years of his life. I'll pass.I've only heard markevitch accompany haskil in mozart ctos (on disc obviously). What are some essential recordings by him please?
>>124768827Yes most of his recordings are from when he was old and tired, propped up in the podium and sounds it.Markevitch: Cherubini Requiem, Rimsky-Korsakov Scheherazade, Glinka Life of the Tsar, Stravinsky ballets. Also his Beethoven is weird but well worth a listen.
>>124768827>What are some essential recordings by him please?Le SacreHaydn's Creation
>>124768722Listen to his Petrouchka
>>124767767>>124767807 (good recs as always)Obligatory Rachmaninoff concerto 2 rec with pic, link and kind regards:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5yPgbG_Ivk&list=PLs1oeJCZ4VmBELNhnlUoD1LJZkAtNUcRe&index=4(Skip everything else for now and listen!)
>>124764818Any source that goes in depth on this?
>>124768913What is an audiophile edition?
Beethoven, late choral works
>>124769021An edition for maho kun specifically
CD 1 MOZARTSerenade K. 361 'Gran Partita'FIRST RELEASE ON CDCD 2 MOZARTSerenades K. 375 & 388Antony PayFIRST RELEASE ON CDCD 3 SPOHRClarinet Concertos Nos. 1 & 2Antony PayFIRST RELEASE ON CDCD 4 SCHUBERTMass No. 4Wind Octet D.72*Eine kleine TrauermusikGesang der Geister über den WassernPhyllis Bryn-Julson; Jan DeGaetaniAnthony Rolfe Johnson; Malcolm KingLondon Sinfonietta Chorus*FIRST RELEASE ON CDCD 5 SCHOENBERGVerklärte Nacht*Serenade Op. 24John Shirley-Quirk*FIRST INTERNATIONAL RELEASE ON CDCD 6 SCHOENBERGChamber Symphony No. 1*Pierrot LunaireEin Stelldichein*Herzgewächse*Three Pieces for Chamber Orchestra*Nachtwandler (Brettl-Lieder)*Mary Thomas; June BartonCD 7 SCHOENBERGWind QuintetDer Wunsch des Liebhabers*Der neue Klassizimus*Lied der Waldtaube (Gurrelieder)*Die eiserne BrigadeWeihnachtsmusik*Anna ReynoldsLondon Sinfonietta Chorus*FIRST INTERNATIONAL RELEASE ON CDCD 8 SCHOENBERGSuite Op. 29Ode to Napoleon BuonapartePhantasy for Violin and Piano*Gerald EnglishNona Liddell; John Constable*FIRST INTERNATIONAL RELEASE ON CDCD 9STRAVINSKY Agon*BERG Chamber ConcertoGyörgy Pauk; Paul Crossley*FIRST INTERNATIONAL RELEASE ON CDCD 10GERHARDLibra; Gemini; LeoFIRST RELEASE ON CDCDs 11–12 WEILLKleine DreigroschenmusikMahagonny Songspiel; Violin ConcertoHappy End; Das Berliner RequiemPantomime I; Vom Tod im WaldMary Thomas; Meriel DickinsonPhilip Langridge; Ian PartridgeBenjamin Luxon; Michael RipponNona Liddell CD 13 LIGETIMelodien for OrchestraDouble ConcertoChamber ConcertoAurèle Nicolet; Heinz HolligerLONDON SINFONIETTADAVID ATHERTON
I don't get it.
>>124769021Very good sound quality. In fact it's the best sounding record/master I've ever heard, but maybe that's just because I'm more sensetive to pieces I've listened to trillion times.
Now playing Franz Benda.
Franz Liszt, Franz Schubert or Franz Benda
>>124769853Hard to choose between Liszt and Schubert, but probably the latter.
>>124769853Number of albums in my hdSchubert (4) = Benda (4) > Liszt (1)
>>124769853Easiest poll ever: Schubert
>>124768722He's good.>>124768827Some of those recordings are good. The Eroica with the Concertgebouw is Immaculately balanced even if it's on the slower side. Of his late London recordings I would say his Dvorak 7th is of particular interest, it's probably still the best recording of that work. Also, check out his Petrushka in Boston and his Franck Symphony with Chicago. Those two are probably his best stereo recordings and are far from "old and stuffy"
>>124767060>>124767111>>124767149here i was thinking "yeah, blomstedt's brahms requiem IS milquetoast, i wonder what this guy prefers" and it's fucking karajan, what a fucking travesty.
Another one from the Benda family. Andras Szepes plays the harpsichord.
>>124768722marvelously genius conductor who rarely set a wrong foot anywhere. >>124768743retarded and wrong>>124769222i don't know how it ended up that MTT of all people was the only major conductor with any interest in the late beethoven secular choral works. you'd think literally anyone else might have tackled them at this point but nope, i guess not.
>>124769853i prefer franz joseph haydn
Barenboim's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOP_EVcNM4&list=OLAK5uy_mL6yK0x1OBjPPdtF2-56tP4W3_TpW6EmE&index=13>>124770491Can conductors really attain the rank of 'genius?'
>>124770537yes, but definitely not barenboim
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8MkG-u5gRQThoughts on Monteux as a conductor? I think he has a cool mustache.
>>124770558Someone just asked that! >>124768722
>>124770558I think this Vienna recording isn't as good as his later Concertgebouw one, both in recording quality and interpretation. Also, yes. Excellent facial hair. Who wouldn't want this jovial man as a grandpa?
>>124770553I don't know, just feels off. While I obviously recognize the importance of conductors and the difficulty of their craft, it feels akin to, say, calling a translator of literature a genius. Maybe I'm unnecessarily and incorrectly being a stickler here.
>>124770645certified non-musician moment>>124770594his vienna recording sounds awful, same with his vienna brahms. i don't know what went wrong those days, but his respective remakes of both are so much better.
>>124770663Yeah, they have a very tinny and small sound to them. It's strange.
Why aren't non-sonata forms more common for string instruments in the same way they are for solo piano? Like series of preludes for violin/cello. I've heard a couple and they're excellent.
>>124770693because only piano wankers could ever be so pretentious.
>>124770703lolI guess there's always arrangements. Time to look for string arrangements of Bach's 24 P&Fs and Chopin's 24 Preludes, for example.
Post the worst/weirdest Classical Music recording covers
>>124770491>i don't know how it ended up that MTTPlenty of people have recorded Beethoven's choral ephemera: Zinman, Gardiner, Semkow, Abbado among others. They just aren't very highly regarded works. Jobbing Beethoven.
>>124770775>>>/edm/ is that way
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>>124770792Lol it's a cover for Johannes Ockeghem's masses
>>124770785>zinman, gardiner, semkowyes, but i said major conductors>abbadoblech
ooo didn't know Hindemith had piano music. Should be a fun listen! Normally I'd pick someone other than Gould but I saw a thumbnail of Hurwitz suggesting his and I've been more open to trying out his recordings lately.start of Hindemith: Piano Sonata No. 1 in A Majorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrsuFVIqtYc&list=OLAK5uy_lTmd6FXBkwjXO1kVxtlcJPmWiZOkexC0w&index=1Of course, there's the obvious problem of having Gould be your introduction to a piece, where you don't know if he's gonna change it up so much you don't get an accurate representation of it, but nevertheless.
>>124770801'Defects of form are not a justifiable ground for criticism from listeners who profess to enjoy the bleeding chunks of butcher's meat chopped from Wagner's operas and served up on Wagner nights as Waldweben and Walkürenritt. -- Donald Tovey>>124770823Minor works not worthy of major conductors, Maybe Monteux would have made them nice and dull.>>124770835The Ludus Tonalis is better than the sonatas.
>>124770914>Ludus TonalisNeat I'll check it out as well, thanks.
>>124770914when india's sending bait, they're not sending their best. sad but true.
>>124770594>>124770663>>124770689Strange, I actually quite like the sound of his vienna recording more. What headphones you guys sporting?
>>124771079you also quite like being an AGP tranime pedophile more, so there's clearly a difference between how you and the rest of us see the world.
>>124771079i hope the following information brings you comfort in a world of ill-will meaning anons. the 2015 eloquence remaster with veinna was reissued in the 2019 anthology. i cant speak to the concertgebouw performance because i cant find it.
so many Shostakovich String Quartet sets, so little time!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etX2_kAZ8JY&list=OLAK5uy_mz-P_pG6Ab6E8O5ZPhr0ZcHvaEn-uU_60&index=9
>>124771216forgot:>With their recording of Dmitri Shostakovich's complete string quartets, the Quatuor Danel has crafted an impressive opus that delves into the composer's life with deep musical understanding and establishes unparalleled standards in interpreting his chamber music. These new live recordings, stemming from their 2022 residency at the Mendelssohn Hall of the Gewandhaus Leipzig, capture the full spectrum of emotions embedded in Shostakovich's quartet cycle, from the ethereal to the profound, from the whimsical to the contemplative. With their interpretation of this extraordinary cycle, the Quatuor Danel has forged a distinctive Shostakovich style that cannot be found in any other quartet. Primarius Marc Danel reflects on the resonance with the audience in Leipzig, describing it as nothing short of sensational. "I hope the recordings will also convey the collective spirit we permanently felt during our residency in the Mendelssohn Hall."Recorded live at Mendelssohn-Saal Gewandhaus zu Leipzig February & May, 2022
>>124771216shostakovich is shit and your consumer attitude has revealed negative connotations about your character
>>124771216yes, there is a lot of dogshit in the world, unfortunately.
>>124771237Are we really on this again? It has nothing to do with any 'consumer attitude,' I just want to get the most out of great music, which includes experiencing them in new and interesting ways.>>124771249Which is why I post music belonging to the good side.
>>124771262>Which is why I post music belonging to the good side.evidently not
>>124771267You're still young, you've got plenty of time left on life's stage, hopefully you'll come around.
>>124771285come around to enjoying bad music? no thanks, i'll leave that to stupid old people like you.
>>124771285life is not a stage. whoever sold you that crap is a con artist and probably one of the reasons why you've been captured by consumerism.
>>124771296If I didn't weigh 125lbs, I'd beat you up.
>>124771312i'll leave the bad music to gremlins like you, eat it all up little guy.
>>124771306Help, I've been captured and am being held hostage! Free me, anon.
The majority of people don't come to classical to expand their tastes, they are aiming to narrow it.
>>124771336>eat it all up little guy.That's funny.>>124771366To be fair, another way to word that is increasing one's discernment, tightening one's palette. But yes, I feel you.
>>124771362ideological capture is an abstract field that cant be got to physically. dont fret. there are many people in your position who have been unfortunate enough to unwittingly fall for marketers, advertisers and propagandists. the trick to breaking free is not something someone else can do for you but rather something you can do for yourself. also cluytens beethoven performances are on par with karajan in particular the tempo. very fast, not something im used to nor like very much.
>>124770693Because gathering an entire orchestra to play a small prelude seems excessive. And playing series of preludes is just like playing a set different small pieces unrelated to each other (even Chopin's preludes don't exactly sound 'well' next to each other, despite running in circle of fifths), why would you want that instead of one long, coherent piece when you have an entire orchestra at hand?Not trying to undervalue small preludes obviously, I love Chopin, they are just better suited for a small performance (e.g. in a 19th century Salon), by a single performer.>>124771216Russian late romanticism reigns utterly supreme.>>124771285He won't. Intelligence is hereditary.>>124771312kek based.
these blurbs are too good:>Nelsons is Superman --Gramophone>Every time I ve seen him conduct - in Boston, Tanglewood, New York, and Bayreuth - he has set off brushfires of intensity. [...]Nelsons produces full-body impact: instead of shattering about your ears, the sound engulfs you. He is a master at controlling dynamics to create a kinetic, fluctuating mass. --The New Yorker>Andris Nelsons conducted with keen focus and vigor, eliciting tonal beauty, technical precision and obvious engagement from the orchestra. --The Wall Street JournalSolid recording too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slyjSkZw9s0&list=OLAK5uy_mjFkz-QGu47xLZ2fidcxkq6yY9nrx-gkc&index=2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQfQudLuIqg&list=OLAK5uy_mjFkz-QGu47xLZ2fidcxkq6yY9nrx-gkc&index=2
>>124771414intelligence may be in part hereditary but to ignore environmental pressures that stimulate the functioning of brain power is not an honest way of approaching the capability of people
>>124771414Sorry, I meant solo string instruments.
>>124771454Be honest, if in a review of one of your performances the critic compared you to Superman you'd Krazy Glue that shit to your wall.
>>124771508i don't care about what critics have to say no matter how hard they're sucking the shit out my asshole. literal soulless automatons.
>>124771438Oh right, my bad.Well, solo string instrument is still incapable of producing sounds that piano can, it can barely play 2 voice, whereas Liszt transcription imitate symphonies.>>124771432>environmental pressuresHas no effect on g factor a.k.a. intelligence. But yes, environmental factor matters as well.>>124771454Shouldn't you be at the psych ward working hard for your certificate, mutt?
>>124771516You'll never reach the top without them.
Oh look, its time for Dumb & Dumber's daily argument.
>>124771216Just finished listening to that 3rd and now onto the 4th, this set is actually fire, highly recommended. I'll definitely be going through it in the coming days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTdFpDd6byM&list=OLAK5uy_mz-P_pG6Ab6E8O5ZPhr0ZcHvaEn-uU_60&index=14
>>124771525am i to understand that you think environmental pressures matter in regard to intelligence but that it doesn't have an effect on intelligence?
>>124771568fire bop slap no cap on god fr fr bruhhhh this shit bussin sheeeeeeeesh finna hawk tuah on dat thang>>124771575as much as i find you endearing, my dear unmedicated schizo, i do hope you realize that you are wasting your breath arguing with a deranged homosexual indian.
>>124771595Is that Ginsberg?
>>124771621no it's wench i mean welch
>>1247715551. I'm not the one shitting up classical, it's you2. It's not late at all, but nice try insomutt.
>>124771635Huh, I thought I was familiar with all of the Beats.>On May 23, 1971, Welch walked out of poet Gary Snyder's house in the mountains of California, leaving behind a suicide note. He had with him a stainless steel Smith & Wesson .22 caliber revolver. His body was never found.[1]damn
>>124771681I didn't know who Lew Welch was so I looked him up is all.
>>124771681>2am where you areBut I am not in mumbai, nor is it 2 here, mutt.
>>124771694i was making a joke about the hawk tuah girl, i have no idea who lew welch is.
>>124771701o lolI thought your joke was naming a different Beats poet because I said Ginsberg. Whoops!
>>124771714Shouldn't you be replying to >>124737444 or did you finally give up for once, insomnimutt? You'll have to give up the second time here
>>124771525>Well, solo string instrument is still incapable of producing sounds that piano can, it can barely play 2 voice, whereas Liszt transcription imitate symphonies.Makes sense. Still, even more stuff like Bach's Cello Suites or solo violin pieces would be nice, but I get there's only so much you can do with them, and not everyone can be Bach.
>>124769853Schubert
>>124771145So true newfag sister
>>124771724There's also the famous Paganini caprices, and Bartok's solo violin sonatas which I haven't yet properly explored. But yes, there doesn't seem to be many>>124771744I don't see how you still have hope of being the last to reply, but you do you, insomutt.
https://youtu.be/SSCjRhkAOjI?si=96B3g7s0wcDfZ29-This is so beautiful.
Mozarthttps://youtu.be/pXbA_WHF_6sBeautiful work
>>124771830>>124771145>>124771857What the heck is this dudes problem
>>124771866He is psych ward escapee currently employed at the circus (he calls it american conservatory), where he conducts Schubert unfinished daily, for the past 10 years non-stop
>>124771894I'm afraid your certificate is going nowhere, you'll HAVE to obtain it!
>>124771950not interested in hearing you repeat lines from your favorite bollywood flick sorry, you'll have to find someone else you Rape you.
>>124771969>t. doesn't even have the psych ward certificate yetLOL. What a total loser newfag
>>124771980sorry, but having gay anal sex with child Rape victims is just not on my list of things to do today. go ask someone else.
>>124772012You have no psych ward certificate yet, your opinion is worthless.
>>124772032you're The Raped, your asshole is worthless because it was torn wide open by your uncle.
>>124772058Save your breath, you still need that certificate to matter, insomutt.
Interesting how the two most mentally disturbed individuals here don't like Shostakovich, you would think his music would be right up their alley. Perhaps they don't enjoy having their psyche reflected back to them. Art should comfort the uncomfortable, and discomfort the comfortable, and all that.
Take the trash out, janny, I'm taking mine out along with that ;)Also, Tetzlaff's Bartok solo violin sonatas:https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nAKCJLN5oStMT9qQjo21rvd2cda3o8Qyk
>>124772176>Perhaps they don't enjoy having their psyche reflected back to themAHAHAAHAHAHHAAAHAAHA
>>124772199Good day for Bartok.
>>124772231A good night for Bartok for sure, and for the morning I'll listen to Shostakovich, in honor of the insomniac's mental health issues.
>>124772150save your asshole, you'll need it for when uncle sorabji rises from his grave to Rape you once again. >>124772176interesting how the two most musically illiterate morons here like shostakovich. perhaps they enjoy it out of ignorance to the standards of good composition.
>>124769020yes:https://archive.org/details/cu31924017605142/page/n9/mode/2up
>>124772273Save your breath for the certificate ceremony.>perhaps they enjoy it out of ignorance to the standards of good composition.Perhaps the standards are overrated in proportion to their relevance to actual quality, and are set up by circlejerk who can't even figure out that consonance is relative? Perhaps you have to mind your own business and let people enjoy good music?
>>124772341sorry, not interested in hearing Rape victims ramble about topics they don’t understand.
>>124772351Get back to certificate shining on colorful marble pedestal... In the future LOL
>>124772455you’ll have to teach me hindi one of these days so i can understand your incomprehensible Raped babble.
>>124772176The sister shitter doesn't believe in self awareness or self reflection
>>124771306>>124771408You never heard of Shakespeare anon?
>>124772489You'll have to invite me over at your circus/psych ward award ceremony
>>124772598please, no invitations to your indian gay Rape orgies, thanks. i’m just not interested.
Why do you think the sistershitter is so obsessed with Indians? Is he a Pakistani perhaps? Or was he conned by Indians at a formative age and it stuck with them? Or is this just their latest aspergic fixation and they'll eventually move on to something else?
>>124772682i think they're chinese
>>124772682Current political monster of the week like trannies a year or two ago
>>124772682i don’t think calling a duck a duck counts as an obsession
now playing, didn't know Sibelius had a Piano Quintetstart of Sibelius: Piano Quintet in G Minorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZrM5Z5OaGw&list=OLAK5uy_lz5HzDFEi5q6Fwp2g2rqGVtKZ6OHyHVMU&index=2start of Sibelius: String Quartet in D Minor, Op. 56, "Voces Intimae"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzM2wea4cO4&list=OLAK5uy_lz5HzDFEi5q6Fwp2g2rqGVtKZ6OHyHVMU&index=6
>>124772758Well of course YOU wouldn't -insane people don't know their insane.
>>124772833pray tell what’s so obsessive about calling something as it is.
It's important not to indulge the person's obsessive fantasies. By playing along with them-they consider this validation of their delusions
How do I stop listening to Wagner?
>>124772641Not like I would come to your psych ward/circus party lol>>124772682It is projection, he's part indian and hates himself for that.>>124772857Absoltely nothing, insomniac mutt!
>>124771824Does anyone happen to have the Suske Quartett recordings of Beethoven in FLAC?
>>124772972no one asked for your Raped opinion, i’m afraid.
>>124773003Onwards from circus to the psych ward!
>>124766320Mahler 6 should be half as long
>>124773020try that one again in english, Raped, i don’t understand hindi. >>124773034delulu
>>124772893You don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX8aYU3-CRcEveryone is so weak and pathetic. Who the hell cares about inferior rodents anyway? I alone must endure as I alone have the soul of an aristocrat. You inferior insects and your whiny musings never fail to entertain me. In me dances the warrior, the conqueror, I am the Hagen who will kill Siegfried. I am the Sauron who throws the entire world into chaos. The desire to rule everything in sight. The desire to dominate and destroy any opposition.I don't care about life now, life, safety, wealth, health - these things are all trivial, all part of a Jewish circus trope for subhumans and jesters to partake in. All I want now is to have a legendary battle with a certain someone, a rival, our battle will shake the earth. The only thing to live for as this is the true meaning of life - A FUCKING BATTLE! Blow the war horns and carry me to destruction ARES!
There exists only two kinds of humans, one that enjoys and other that whines.
Mendelssohnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EcmAO3GxEQ
>>124773218>and other that whines.Like this:>>124773190
>>124772520the second post you're quoting has nothing at all to do with shakespeare but rather anons propensity for consumerist activities. and, the only plays of his that ive read, if they are actually his, are coriolanus and the taming of the shrew. i assume he was quoted as stating life is a stage or something to that effect, but where i come from we're taught to not trust people selling phrases that are related to their profession. for instance, a door to door salesman is doing his usual pitch about how this window cleaner will wipe away so-and-so problems. that doesn't mean it'll do what he says or for that matter that it'll clean at all. in fact, if he's making a profit by selling the product he is more often than not lying. why would it be any different coming from a playwright?
>>124773660o_o
>>124773660
now playingstart of Hindemith: Symphonie "Mathis der Maler"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhdLdTNfDe4&list=OLAK5uy_kaLk8VErjHsUs5iwvhjFa-VfYOLnyM7YM&index=1I always read the title of this piece as "Mathis der Mahler"
https://files.catbox.moe/mog83l.mp3
>>124773660Read Shakespeare, anon.
>>124773871Sneaky ancient vampire... will check that out, thanks.
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM6zQhGhhr0
Fou Ts'ong the pianist any good?
>>124774150https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHNEWQhlQsgyeah
>>124774185Cool, listening to some of their Schumann now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRnfmmdXE_E&list=OLAK5uy_mRjqSnjnVQIiH3c8BV9p5SoeTUl5uJNlQ&index=1
>>124774150Fou what song?
Goddamn, a man could spend a lifetime listening to the vast multitudes of Bach recordings out there, many of them great, each in their own distinct, wonderful ways.
>>124774296Should definitely hear Feinberg if you don't mind older recordings.
>>124774296pic unrelated, presumably
>>124774296dry rendition, sounds like he doesn't like bach at all
>>124774315I've been on a modern recording kick lately, but that one is certainly on my list for when I do feel like exploring the much older generations.>>124774339>>124774349Yeah, I remember anons here expressing dislike for Jarrett before. You guys undoubtedly know better than me, but, a few tracks in, it's sounding pretty good. While not transcendent, like the best Bach performances are, certainly entertaining, bright, and jovial.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJDE6DAYAE&list=OLAK5uy_mYOfswGfIc2eIe6_0wUuTXJKXOtRFfDzU&index=2
>>124774296Bach is a gift that keeps on giving.
>>124774374at this point, i'm pretty sure literally everything sounds good to you so long as it vaguely resembles what's written in the score.
>>124774395I just have a wider rating system than you guys. To some of you, if it isn't the very best, it sucks. For me, something can be good even if I don't think it's worth repeat listens so long as the one experience was enjoyable. But hey I've already admitted you guys know better; discernment comes with time and experience, after all, and you gotta get there through listening.
>>124774395nta but yes, thats me. I have a growing collection of /classical/ digital albums and I'm yet to delete an album because of the performance. It is what it is.
>>124774472Being able to find enjoyment out of a wide variety of things, in this case music and their performances, is a virtue. That doesn't mean you can't still recognize that some are in fact better than others, so there's nothing to feel bad about.
/classical/'s APPROVED RANKINGS OF THE TOP 25 SYMPHONISTS IN HISTORY1. beethoven2. mahler3. brahms4. bruckner5. mozart6. schubert7. tchaikovsky8. nielsen10. sibelius11. haydn12. sessions13. schumann14. mendelssohn15. lutoslawski16. shostakovich17. ives18. hartmann19. stravinsky20. prokofiev21. rvw22. rachmaninoff23. martinu24. elgar9001. schnittke
>>124774605Pretty good! The immediate glaring omission I see is Dvorak, but of course no one's list is gonna 100% line-up with anyone else's, so on the whole I approve.
>>124774388Indeed! There are some days as of late where almost nothing else sounds good, so I end up listening to nearly solely Bach. It's been nice.
sorry for the spam, trying one more tonight and so far this one is a real winner. Looked into the pianist's other recordings and he's got a nice variety; some more Bach, lots of Debussy, a lot of Messiaen and Ligeti and Bartok, some Beethoven.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_h9NOe_6bo&list=OLAK5uy_n4vK98DmwE8g4iAQzM2S_YdBYyu6FPuvo&index=1softer, meditative, some might even say 'spiritual' approach
>>124775173You are on topic anon, you are very welcome.
now playingstart of Mendelssohn: Piano Concerto No. 1 In G Minor, Op. 25, MWV O7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvVuGSLtSY&list=OLAK5uy_m8a0_qssPsFuuMS6lJQr1QiANgVca5m-Q&index=1start of Mendelssohn: Piano Concerto No. 2 in D Minor, Op. 40, MWV O11https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8gz-OD3pnM&list=OLAK5uy_m8a0_qssPsFuuMS6lJQr1QiANgVca5m-Q&index=6
>>124775813had to do two posts to fit this immense and detailed editorial excerpt:>>Many of Jean-Yves Thibaudet's recent recordings not only his pale Rachmaninov, but even his dimly characterized Debussy have represented him as a technically fluent but interpretatively self-effacing pianist, one who prefers to skate across the music than take a position on what lies beneath the surface. One might have expected the polished veneer of Mendelssohn to encourage more of this faceless graciousness; but in the event, these turn out to be impressively firm, even tough-minded, performances. Not that they're brutal, as Katsaris's unyielding readings of the concertos are: whether in the fluid transition into the second theme of the first movement of the First Concerto, the supple shading of the cantilena in the following Andante or the artful weighting of the cadences in the Variations, Thibaudet offers urgency without sacrificing poise. Nor, for all his attention to the music's larger design, does he disdain the concertos' glitter, as Kalichstein does in his daringly dark and probing readings. Still, it's fair to say that Thibaudet's performances are more desperate than dapper, more thrilling than tender, more spiky than succulent. Note, for instance, how his slightly craggy articulation in the Second Concerto's Adagio keeps the music's sentiment at bay, or how his jabs at the left-hand octave interruptions (for example, at 1'15") inject a sense of threat to the normally placid Andante that introduces the Rondo capriccioso. Those who dip into Mendelssohn for his charm may find it all too stern but those open to Thibaudet's tart perspective may well rank this among the most persuasive recordings that he has given us. Blomstedt and his orchestra are at one with the pianist and the engineers have captured them with power and immediacy. Jeremy Siepmann's notes only add to the pleasures of the disc. Warmly recommended. Peter J. Rabinowitz - From International Record Review
>>124774605>Brahms and Bruckner over Mozart and Haydnromanticism is a mental illness
>>124775794Thank you. I just know I have a habit of overdoing it when I become enthralled with an individual composer and want to post about them -- should have seen my Mahler posts many months ago!
>>124775825He's correct. Mozart and Haydn walked so Brahms and Bruckner could run.
>Because she has a big (classical) ass!!!
In the vein of Harry Potter, I will name my kids:>Johann Telemann Domenico Josquin Bach>Haydina Monteverdia Franzina Benda
feels like a Rachmaninoff Symphony 2 nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBypaMi9POU&list=OLAK5uy_nDCYeg0ps60E-q6LAe9lD5MbNslNX0jbM&index=1
>>124776564Music for sleep or music to extend the night?
>>124776615Not sleep time yet. Just it's dark and the mood struck.
>>124776361kek
>>124775824>technically fluent but interpretatively self-effacing pianist, one who prefers to skate across the music than take a position on what lies beneath the surface.The critics make an enormous effort to not be plain (is it a good performance? Did I like it?) but get lost in a maze of words.
>>124775813>MendelssohnHe is a composer that I cant place in my "brain chart". Its always in the list of composers to listen but I never make the effort to do it. Forgett about him till the next post. Dunno why.
>>124774605>rvwWho?
>>124773871Sick cover
>>124777069Rudwig Van Weethoven...Ralph Vaughan Williams
>>124777088Oh, the English composer
now playing, finally trying some Messiaenstart of recording playlist:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEm61VGqMZk&list=OLAK5uy_lG3GpbzRiZ0TfMfsLHVxq8sttA_B2fDkA&index=1liner notes from the artist/pianist:>The present recording features highly contrastive aspects of Messiaen's personality. The composer was a visionary who retained his independence throughout the 20th century and invited us in the process to rethink the way in which we listen to music. As a man, he was secretive by nature, with the gentleness and modesty of some of his Préludes. He also had the capacity for marvelling at the world around him, which, together with his powers of listening, finds expression in his Catalogue d'oiseaux. And he was intellectually inquisitive, a quality which, like his sense of order, is reflected in his Études de rythme. I hope that this homage in the form of a portrait will encourage others to share my love not only for this great creator of time and colour but also for this mysterious and radiant man.
The title sounds a bit derogatory>Haydn and his... "English friends"
>>124777136A sensible introduction without too many superlatives. Its really inviting.
Closing the day with Early Music, as it should be
>>124777220Harmonia Mundi do have a nice catalogue for sure
>>124777220The previous album, the Benda one, took me way too much to finish. The day was busy.
New thread>>124777245>>124777245>>124777245
>>124770775It deserves a whole thread, I hate the try hard covers.
Guitar is a sweet instrument but it doesnt get the attention it deserves.
>>124777301I remember a Guitar Festival, more than ten years ago I think, where a young guitarist was playing Bach on a electric instrument. He stopped all of a sudden and said: "I made a mistake", then started again from the beginning. It was sweet and weird at the same time.
>>124776564Rach is perfectly fine. Cant understand the division that him and W cause here.
Do we really need another rendition of picrel?
>>124777499Damn, here the pic
I have no idea what "golden age" means here.
>>124757759Why do we have an "edition" in op and then do nothing with it? Remove editions altogether.
>>124777562not much considering kurt masur wasn't much of a maestro of anything
>>124777594I searched for golden era of conductors/directors but the results are unclear.
New thread>>124777591>>124777591>>124777591
>>124777611people have this subconscious idea that the good conductors are all dead and gone and that things were better in the past (true), so record labels try to twist this into the golden age being the likes of karajan and bernstein (highly marketable and extremely recorded performers) rather than actual old guard conductors like weingartner, monteux, toscanini, walter, etc. etc.
>>124773097Onwards from circus to the psych ward!
>>124774605Anon, actual top 10 looks like this:1. Rachmaninoff2. Prokofiev3. Brahms4. Tchaikovsky5. Schumann6. Mahler7. Shostakovich8. Bruckner9. Schubert10. Beethoven>ivesLOL
>>124774605Don't care about the rest, but here is my top ten:1. Beethoven2. Bruckner3. Haydn4. Mozart5. Schubert6. Sibelius7. Bach8. Mahler9. Tchaikovsky10. Brahms
>>124775855go finish your HS homework
