Kapustin Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyzomIOuo4sThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenprevious: >>127974809
First for Scott Ross' Scarlatti.
>>127990517https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXkKezOLbDg
Okay, now I'm starting to get sick and tired of overly slow interpretations of Beethoven's piano sonatas, need a break from them. Time for the faster cycles.
>>127990443What is that? Rasputin? This sounds like jazz. It's not proper to post this here.
>>127990650it's jazz music written by a classical composer. you can tell because it's actually structured and tasteful.
>>127990743still jazz>>>/mu/
>>127990883please define in precise technical terms what constitutes "jazz".
>>127990898why
>>127990902why not?
Hello niggas. I want to hear "Saint Matthew's Passion" by Bach but idk which recording is the best one. Any recommendations?
>>127990915I recommend you speak like a functioning adult
>>127990915https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfdKia75RjQ
>>127990923There's no recording that goes by the name "I recommend you speak like a functioning adult", faggot. Give me another one
>>127990517>>127990532Early on Clementi was apparently greatly influenced by Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb5VlvN3k04Opinions?
>>127990443Classical noob. Who is doing well at the Chopin Competition and who are we rooting for? Is it all subjective?
>>127990954fuck off.
>>127990934kill yourself
>>127990915Karl Richter
>>127990965There's no recording named that either. I'm starting to think you're a massive retard with dick for brains.
watching the NFL on mute while listening to classical :)
>>127990915Richter if you want classic, Pichon for new
Did Western Art music have a greater prince than the Roman reincarnation of Orpheus himself?
>>127990954>who are we rooting for?The non-Asians
>>127990915Richter is the classic but Rudolf Lutz is my favoriteI'd say check both out
>>127991043Gonna watch the Kings vs Avs tomorrow because I don't watch Sub Saharan pig skin toss. The cerebral sport for the cerebral listener
>>127991061yeah
"[Handel] is the only person I would wish to see before I die, and the only person I would wish to be, were I not Bach." - J. S. BachAnd when Mozart heard this:"Truly, I would say the same myself if I were permitted to put in a word""Handel understands effect better than any of us -- when he chooses, he strikes like a thunderbolt... though he often saunters, in the manner of his time, this is always something there." - MozartUpon hearing the 'Hallelujah Chorus' from Messiah, Joseph Haydn is said to have "wept like a child" and exclaimed: "He is the master of us all.""Handel is the greatest composer that ever lived... I would uncover my head and kneel down on his tomb." - BeethovenBeethoven, when asked to name the greatest composer ever, he is said to have responded: "Handel, to him I bow the knee."In 1819, Beethoven told Archduke Rudolph: "not to forget Handel's works, as they always offer the best nourishment for your ripe musical mind, and will at the same time lead to admiration for this great man.""Händel is the greatest and ablest of all composers; from him I can still learn." - Beethoven on his deathbed
>>127990954kys
>>127991685Handel was the greatest swindler and thief in an era of swindlers and thieves.
>>127991685>Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven praised him to high heaven, therefore he must be the greatestDo you know what advantage we have today over Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven? Hindsight.
>>127991685Damn, that's definitive
>>127991719>>127990960Why are these mentally ill anons trying so hard to kill the general :(>>127990954Who are you rooting for?
>>127992778no, that's Danielle
>>127992778>"Händel is the greatest and ablest of all composers; from him I can still learn." - Beethoven on his deathbed>I can still learn>on his deathbedlolHis final words were basically "bummer I can't drink twelve bottles of wine" though
i put on bach's well tempered clavier and i get in bed and close my eyes and listen and im lights out before the end every time :)
>>127992942*that* boring, huh?
>>127992963i prefer the term soothing. and following all the counterpoint voices really clears the mind and before you know it youre in dreamland. try it :)
>>127993020I already sleep with music, I was just being a silly sausage. I don't think I could sleep to that, though. I need something even and brainless, otherwise my mind will be drawn to it and that's the opposite of what I need.
Open up your mindholes, it's Foulds o' clockhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgenHJUoZQkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk3CXw2Q16Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAVOB4OTVoMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NBataLDUgc
Tchaikovsky's ballets are pretty good for falling asleep to. Same with Faure's solo piano music. Beethoven on the other hand not so much.
>>127993202>Tchaikovsky's ballets are pretty good for falling asleep toToo many dynamics, for me at least. Fauré and that entire french pianism that ironically starts with an irish man, is perhaps best represented by a pole, and "ends" with a russian is great though
>>127993202try this sometimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM75S7S2zmc
>>127993230>irish manField?>best represented by a pole,Chopin?>"ends" with a russian is great thoughRachmaninoff?
this is the best classical recording to fall asleep to (I almost did Scherbakov's recording of it because his comfy, pillowy piano tone is perfect but Nikolayeva's slow tempo and dreamy style takes the cake)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrbO-wqiphI&list=OLAK5uy_mi8JoW5WlgaeDfzs6rYrBRYPLG7Etu5pY&index=2g'night anons
>>127993230>Fauré and that entire french pianism that ironically starts with an irish man, is perhaps best represented by a pole, and "ends" with a russian is great thoughshame Rach didn't write a Nocturnes :(
>>127993344>>best represented by a pole,>Chopin?No, your mother. got 'em!
best John Field Nocturnes recording?
>>127993400You even have to ask?
how can anyone fall asleep to Chopin? his pieces, even the Nocturnes are way too dynamic, same with Rach, Satie is perfect for sleep.
>>127993407is she even Irish? i only listen to performers of the same nationality of the Composer.
>>127993420>how can anyone fall asleep to Chopin? his pieces, even the Nocturnes are way too dynamicidk, works for me. Has to be one of the more sedate recordings of it though (eg Barenboim, Hewitt, Lisiecki, Hough).> same with RachI agree his Preludes and Etudes are not good for sleep. His piano concertos I haven't tried sleeping to in years.>Satie is perfect for sleep.I'll try later this week.
>>127993383He did write themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2St7OxEib3Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO3C7X-QN9Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s79Diq7ol9Y
>>127993429>is she even Irish?yeah
>>127993440:O
>>127992782we already told you retards to not discuss a mindless chink competition, it's not music, it's not even music related, it's >>>/sp/ tier
>>127991685I kneel..
>>127993455>pretends to be a Rach fan>doesn't even own Howard Shelley's Complete Solo Piano Music
>>127992770so true sister and we also have HRT to become real women
>>127993493i'm actually taking TRT to become a man
>>127993380>Editor's caption: the album art depicts the onslaught of autist Germancucks by the mighty beauty of Russian Romanticism
i fucked up my fingers trying to stretch them out so i could be a better pianist, will i ever be able to play again?
John Sebastion Bach Art of Fug recording?
>>127993559Trifonov or Hewitt
>>127993584what abour wsorejzb?
>>127993591You mean Schaghajegh Nosrati? Yeah, hers is really good too. I only wanted to name two though.
>art of fugue on anything other than Organlel
>>127993630For me, it's the Art of Fugue on string quartethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy_dVhmxQ4&list=OLAK5uy_me9d2cIco56aNbBOHhgHjiFrrRSUuVIRU&index=8Hell. Yes.
>>127993630Organ fucking sucks. Bach's organ works are signiticantly better orchestrated by Stokowski.
>>127993429John O'Conor is Irish if you really insist. There's also a set by Miceal O'Rourke but I haven't heard it.
>>127993662>Organ fucking sucksokay pleb>Bach's organ works are signiticantly better orchestrated by Stokowskigood one
>>127993662uninstall your life retarded faggot
>>127993731>your*You're, retardalso, you know i'm right, lol, you listen to winds.
>>127993662Every word true.
>>127993715>>127993731Organfags are the type of people obsessed with timbre rather than the content, clarity and quality of the music. Reminds you of popfags, doesn't it? I bet you wouldn't even be able to hum most of the inner voices from organ recordings. It's that incomprehensible. Drop the act, every other option is better: solo piano, piano 4 hands, orchestra, quartet/chamber arrangements.
>>127993752Damn, anon, you didn't have to do 'em like that.
Alban Gerhardt's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO8pa0GoMVc&list=OLAK5uy_nIsKzIzi13aKSzpuRSmha09bZ10CTqSj0&index=31
>>127993020I've tried it and it doesn't work for me, the music is too distracting.
>>127993752>music played on instruments it wasn't written forjust like anyone who listens to Goldberg Variations or Scarlatti sonatas on piano, kill yourself.
>>127993752>>127993756here, i found something you might likehttps://youtu.be/DfN75_81oXQ?
>>127993860thank you HIPster sister
>>127993884how's that new Bach On Synth album?
Is HIPsterdom always ad hoc justification, or are there any HIPsters who think, say, piano Bach sounds better but still only limit themselves to harpsichord/organ Bach out of adherence to a putative fidelity?
>>127993908i'm not a HIPfag but no one in their right mind thinks Bach sounds better on Piano, when you listen to Baroque Keyboard works on piano they don't sound right and you can tell they weren't meant to be played on that instrument.
>>127993882>Toccata and FugueI sleep. Wake me up when someone makes a new metal cover of some of his actual good stuff like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HHvBWngsVY
>>127993918>no one in their right mind thinks Bach sounds better on Piano,Maybe on the opposite day
>>127993932Piano is an awful instrument for Baroque works where clarity and separation of voices are crucial, which is why Harpsichord and Organ are superior.
thoughts?
>>127991061Too string-centric.
>>127993957I haven't lisztened to it yet.
>>127993943This idiotic argument was utterly demolished a couple weeks agohttps://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/127591322/#127592664Piano is the best instrument for polyphonic music.
>>127993957I recently downloaded that album lol. Because it was posted last thread.
>>127988659No? Anon asked for large-scale choral works, so I gave him that. Telemann wrote a bunch of orchestral and chamber instrumental music. Hundreds of overtures, concertos and trio sonatas. He has a few encyclopedic collections that are spectacular:>Tafelmusik>Paris Quartets>Essercizii musiciHe masterfully combined German, French, Italian, and even Polish folk influences into a universal language that's as comprehensive and varied as Bach's. It's just not as metaphysical and heavy, it's lighter and more human in character, but no less brilliant. Tafelmusik is literally one of the greatest instrumental sets of the Baroque.
>>127994001Oh, and he was especially unrivalled in his imaginative use of winds. No other Baroque composer comes close to his combinations of flutes, oboes, bassoons and other colors. He's literally the peak of Baroque wind writing.
best Piano Works for falling asleep toBeethoven - AppassionataChopin - BalladesScriabin - Sonata No. 5Scriabin - Sonata No. 3Messiaen - Catalogue d'oiseauxLiszt - La CampanellaProkofiev - Sonata No. 7Schnittke - Piano Sonata No. 1Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 7Chopin - Sonata Nos. 2 & 3Rachmaninov - Prelude in G Minor, Op. 23 No. 5Rachmaninov - Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-flat Minor, Op. 36
>>127994063>Messiaen - Catalogue d'oiseauxthat's cheating!good list tho, thanks for the effort
>best Piano Works for falling asleep to>Beethoven - Appassionata>Chopin - Ballades>Scriabin - Sonata No. 5>Scriabin - Sonata No. 3>Messiaen - Catalogue d'oiseaux>Liszt - La Campanella>Prokofiev - Sonata No. 7>Schnittke - Piano Sonata No. 1>Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 7>Chopin - Sonata Nos. 2 & 3>Rachmaninov - Prelude in G Minor, Op. 23 No. 5>Rachmaninov - Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-flat Minor, Op. 36
>>127994063lol
fug, Prokofiev's piano sonatas are so good
>>127994314What recording(s)?
>>127994376I just listened to the 3rd, 4th, and 5th off of this one -- almost cried to the 5th, I felt a swelling up in my chest and below my eyes but don't tell anyone that, ok?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaLW-rI6iKY&list=OLAK5uy_ld3elFT-3JiE-_eOkFm30TMx5cX6cmJe8&index=6
>>127993662you've stated this stupid opinion before and we mocked you thenwhat, do you think you're going to change someone's mind if you say it again?
the HIPster vs. traditional + piano war is brewing...
>>127994640>and we mocked you thenWho's "we"? Why are you projecting?
Irony of ironies, I ended up staying up all night from listening to classical and now I've gotta go into the city in 30 minutes and I'm just now getting really tried, fuck me, should've turned the music off but I got all caught up in the whole 'music to fall asleep to'
>>127994063best works to sleep to for meBach - Well Tempered ClavierChopin - NocturnesShostakovich - Symphony No. 8Shostakovich - Symphony No. 10Shostakovich - 24 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 87Grieg - Lyric PiecesBruckner - any symphonySibelius - any symphonyBeethoven - any string quartetBrahms - any string quartet/quintet/sextet
>>127994063>>127994851oh forgot choralBach - Mass in B minorBach - St Matthew PassionBach - St John PassionBerlioz - RequiemMozart - RequiemMozart - Mass in C MajorBrahms - German RequiemBruckner - Mass 2 & 3so comfy to sleep to choral musicalso forgotLiszt - Harmonies poétiques et religieusesScriabin - collected piano works (usually non piano sonatas)Faure - NocturnesDebussy - complete piano works
Bach would have been an accordionist if he live todayhttps://youtu.be/B44zKShiXvQYou can't tell me he wouldn't have thrown his clavichord into the trash once he heard this
>An eminent pianist colleague of mine recently reprimanded me [Andras Schiff] for my “abstinence”. His argument was that all the great pianists of the past have played Bach with lots of pedal and we must follow their example. To me this reasoning is not very convincing. The late George Malcolm, a great musician, best known as a harpsichordist, taught me to play Bach without pedal and to enjoy the delights of purity.>Once a successful young virtuoso pianist came to him asking if he could play for him Bach’s D-major toccata. Malcolm agreed, the young man took his place at the keyboard, put his right foot on the pedal, raised his arms, and here Malcolm suddenly exclaimed:”Stop!”. “But I haven’t played a note yet!” said the victim. “No, but you were just about going to.”lol
>>127994867Never got why the accordion didn't really catch on in classical music. A portable organ that you can take anywhere seems like a nobrainer for hundreds of different applications. The fact that it didn't even replace the chest organ for churches is ridiculous to me. Sure, it took until the 1890s before free bass systems were a thing, but even stradella + the keyboard would be fine for plenty of homophonic music
>>127994912because even in its heyday it sounded goofy
>>127994915I never really got why people think they sound goofy. Maybe the stereotypical tremolo-heavy sound that people associate with it, but the performance the guy posted sounds perfectly fine. I mean, they are literally just portable reed organs which have stops you can adjust
>>127994867There you go:Bach's Toccata & Fugue in D Minor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6aUYKii_ZkPiazzolla - Libertango https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elYSQkTWfTw
>>127994877this Malcolm guy sounds pretty based
>>127994867This is better than organ because it's less muddy, but worse than clavichord, let alone a piano. Clavichord offers dynamics as well as vibrato. Piano is the ultimate instrument and greatest solo instrument for any kind of music. Bach's fortepiano just was in its early stages. He would only compose for the piano (among keyboard instruments), much like Chopin.
>>127995043Pianos suck at fugueing
>>127995044Plebian opinion obliterated several times >>127993966
>>127995043piano is boring
>>127995061Doesn't matter. Timbre should be least of your concerns, it's an extemely popfag-like behavior. Piano is the closest we got to perfect keyboard instrument.
>>127995081>doesn't matterdon't care it's boring simple as. harpsichord is fun. organ is fun. piano sounds like muddy water
>>127995056>using piano in front of class mates>teacher says “Ok students, now open up your polyphonic scores”>start furiously playing away as fast as possible in order to not make the notes decay>mistakes out the ass>Everyone else is playing fine on their organs>I start to sweat>Use the pedals>”Umm...what the fuck is THAT anon?” a girl next to me asks>I tell her its the piano pedal and can do everything that an organ does and requires NO AIR!>“Ok class, now play grave” the teacher says>I fucking break down and cry and run out of the class>I get beat up in the parking lot after school
You can do strange things with a piano. I heard Sofia Gubaidulina - Dancer on a Tightrope yesterday. Pretty weird:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwfAXW2R9tk
Once you get Richterpilled, there's literally no going backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ0dBlD8M3M
>>127995081>you shouldn't care about what you hearOkay.
>when is time for the daily reminder
>Today I will remind themBABAB>DAILY REMINDER>DAILY REMINDERIAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWOIKCtjiw&list=RDKyWOIKCtjiw&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLugJIWdpCM&list=RDtLugJIWdpCM&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-utT-BD0obk&list=RD-utT-BD0obk&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxx7Stpx7bU&list=RDcxx7Stpx7bU&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCoOqsxLxSo&list=RDkCoOqsxLxSo&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgjwiadze1w&list=RDSgjwiadze1w&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ44z_ZqzXk&list=RDOQ44z_ZqzXk&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyBRbbHpno&list=RDpGyBRbbHpno&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>average BABIAA listenerWe will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin NocturneWe are the Mockers of MozartWe put a chokehold on classicismWe are the Cuckolders of ChopinWe are the Rapists of RomanticsWe are the murderers of MahlerWe strike fear in every pretentious and neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies
>Listening to Bach>not listening to Mozart>Listening to Marais>Not listening to Haydn>Listening to Ravel>not listening to Mahler>listening to Stravinsky>not listening to Schoenberg or ShostakovichIs there a better feeling in this world?
>Your Romanticism>My Foot>Your Classicism>My FistI will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin
>Bach>Machaut>Ives>Marais>Buxtehude>Stravinsky>Reich>BartokNo Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No MahlerNo Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul
Mozart gives me the ick,As does Brahms, Mahler, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and ProkofievThat is all
>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms>No Perotin or Medieval Music
>>127995348>>127995380>>127995390Avararfag
>If it ain't BAROQUE, don't fix it>I dumped her because she BAROQUED my heart>I had to go to the doctor because I BAROQUED my leg in a gondola accident>I would go to the concerto with you, but I'm BAROQUE>The Baroque BAROQUED the renaissance mold
NO MOZARTNO CHOPINNO MAHLERALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIETHIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!SONATA FORM SHOULD DIEONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEATWHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITEBACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER
>>127995437t. neurotic
>>127995460I scored 73 point in neuroticism.
>>12799547473 too high you fucking you romantislopper
>>12799548060 is the average in bigfive
Finally made my way through Mahler 1, years after trying it once and not "getting" it. Loving it now, especially the 3rd and 4th movements. I love the unabashed, unrestrained, stormy emotionality of the 4th movement, what else like this do I listen to? Tchaikovsky's late symphonies, I suppose?
>>127995535Idk, I'm not a huge fan of 1st, but I'm listening to Dausgaard's Mahler 10th.
Daily reminder that Telemann is criminally underrated.
>>127995535You heard Mahler's other works? I always thought his 4th was actually a good entry point. It's the most musically conservative, following pretty standard symphonic structure both overall and in terms of individual movements (I think the opening movement of Mahler 4 was the only sonata-allegro movement he wrote that did a traditional modulation to the dominant, but don't quote me on that one) and one of his briefer symphonies. I'd definitely recommend that one, it's generally one of my favorites by him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41b0Jh8xRhk
127995626why do you keep posting your tranny fursona or whatever it is next to your posts? fuck off, faggot troon
>>127995104kek
>>127995535>>127995599Huh, the first 3 movements for the first are the ones I love. Hey, to each his own.>what else like this do I listen to?Depends what you're already heard, though there's nothing else quite like Mahler in the same sense there's nothing else quite like Bruckner, so really whatever late romanticism and early modernism you're interested in trying would be your best bet. Maybe Strauss' Alpine Symphony and various tone poems (eg. Ein Heldenleben, Zarathustra, Death and Transfiguration, Metamorphosen, etc), maybe some Langgaard, Atterberg, Franck's Symphony, Rangstrom's symphonies, Peterson-Burger's symphonies, maybe Sibelius 2 and 4-7.>Tchaikovsky's late symphonies, I suppose?Always, plus his Manfred Symphony and violin concerto and piano concertos.
>>127995535>>127995599Oh and, like the MahoAnon said, other Mahler too of course. Dausgaard's 10th is great, one of the best even, depending on how you like the 10th performed.
>>127995698Don't be rude to people who contribute here, chill out.
>>127990938I enjoyed this sonata. It shows a little of Scarlatti style. This composer seems to be underrated. I enjoy a lot classical sonatas. Pic related.
>>127996371Grab it, anons. It's good music.
hmm, which Bruckner 8 today... Thielemann/Vienna? Maazel/BRSO? or do I wanna let myself be lured in and possibly fooled by Haitink's Bruckner yet again? or perhaps revisit Sinopoli's, see if I change my opinion on it? decisions decisions...
>>127991054>Pichon for newThere's no way I'm ever trusting a countertenor to conduct music.
>>127996393Is Thielemann widely regarded as atrocious?
>>127996510I think his one with Dresden is suberb, in the top 10 8ths I've ever heard. The one with Vienna, and really the entire cycle, is just kinda bland, and seems to rely heavily on the luscious sonority of the orchestra to carry it. But every so often I like to revisit it, see if there's something more there that I may have missed, some more interpretive depth in any of the performances.
Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRa3pvnVofQ&list=OLAK5uy_mOLcIrx1CfZgN-e8yjDytp3gzaKW3c_SM&index=14
let's try this onewww.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjy3jX8lbQU&list=OLAK5uy_kBv_5hgTeWLWDDzvamTBLIFVpn0NNFafI&index=1and the Siegfried Idyll it comes with for the Wagner fans herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OiijnztnVg&list=OLAK5uy_kBv_5hgTeWLWDDzvamTBLIFVpn0NNFafI&index=5
>>127996620Hurwitz told me 18 minutes is too long for a Siegfried Idyll. I don't want him to be mad at me for listening to it.
Does the melody at 1:02 derive from some classical piece?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2PvOU30PNs&list=RDW2PvOU30PNs&start_radio=1&pp=ygUaQXQgdGhlIGdhdGVzIHByaW1hbCBicmVhdGigBwE%3D
>>127996649Live a little, anon, break the rules. Or to quote Nietzsche, >“The secret of realizing the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment of existence is: to live dangerously! Build your cities on the slopes of Vesuvius! Send your ships out into uncharted seas! Live in conflict with your equals and with yourselves! Be robbers and ravagers as soon as you ca not be rulers and owners, you men of knowledge! The time will soon past when you could be content to live concealed in the woods like timid deer!”
>>127996683>Build your cities on the slopes of Vesuvius!Don't do this
>>127990517Homosexual
>>127996683>"Take HRT and put on a dress!"
>>127996683thanks sister
>>127996620compare tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOpyrOq2zo&list=OLAK5uy_kU4ZV-yKPUB5umE9Uurd1daEsFrB4jbms&index=1Vienna certainly sounds better than the RCO in Bruckner.
>>127996775>>127996620Both too straightforward. Solid if they were the only ones available to listen to, but no reason to choose it over many finer options.
Liszt has made a lot of garbage damn
>>127996953That would be Brahms. I still find it difficult to believe he actually published his first symphony.
>>127995491>trusting abrahamic studies>>127995535You should start listening to Handel and Corelli to wash that slop out of your mouth>>1279956172nd rate baroque composers are infinitely more talented then first rate classishit/romantislop, more news at 11
>>127990006>The inferiority of Bach to Telemann was widely acknowledged in their day and the retroactive declaration that Bach was greater than Telemann is the insidious work of notorious academics.seems plausible but what sources do you have to back this up? the bach dickriding seems disproportionate with not a single mention of handel etc
>>127996719So? Most of performers are.
>Limited Connection, No Direct InfluenceSame Birth Year: Both were born in Germany in 1685, but their careers took them in different directions, with Handel becoming an international celebrity in London while Bach worked in smaller German towns.Never Met: Despite being geographically close in their youth and being "kin-spirit[s]" (5), they never met. Bach reportedly made attempts to visit and meet Handel, but these efforts were unsuccessful.Bach's Admiration: Bach had a deep respect for Handel and his music, going so far as to copy some of it, which suggests an influence on Bach's appreciation and understanding of Handel's work. >Key Differences in Musical Style and CareerHandel's Focus: Handel was a theatrical composer who focused on writing operas and oratorios for public acclaim.Bach's Focus: Bach was primarily a church musician who composed and directed church music for the Thomasschule in Leipzig. His music was often seen as more "old-fashioned" and "learned" by the public in his day.
>>127997130>>trusting abrahamic studiesHoly cope
>>127997290Most of them aren't actually
How much of the thematic relations does the average classical listener actually perceive when listening to a symphony?
>>127997608Average? At least some consciously. But most of it is perceived subconsciously. Thematic relations provide coherence, whether or not the listener directly pinpoints those relations.
>>1279976080, I enjoy every moment on its own terms :)
>>127997608Really depends on the work and what you specifically mean. In terms of individual movements: When a composer utilizes a traditional sonata-allegro structure, I can pretty easily follow what is happening thematically. When it gets to more expansive music with less strict formal boundaries, it requires about 2-3 listens before I fully comprehend it.If we're talking about thematic relations between movements in pieces which have more cyclic elements, I don't often hear it. I tend to treat each movement as a separate musical thought whether the composer intends it or not.
Listening to this
>>127997647>But most of it is perceived subconsciously. Thematic relations provide coherence, whether or not the listener directly pinpoints those relations.That's what I always wonder about. I'm aware of the technical jargon (sonata form, development, modulation, recapitulation, etc.), but I don't actually *know* what most of it means, and I wonder whether I'm constantly drinking it in and enjoying it subconsciously. Maybe that's the beauty of classical music, that there's this tremendously complicated machinery working in the background, yet the listener can enjoy its fruits without training his ear to hear it
you WILL put on a Beethoven piano sonatas cycle and listen to it from start to finishhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrTCanZvZj4&list=OLAK5uy_m_afPa6Mlu26qm3BjKrYKKDCFhkrLRxAo&index=1
>>127998078Anime avatarfaggot, pls go
>>127998156You can enjoy it subconsciously of course, and most people do. But it's also nice to know what's going and how the music is structured for various reasons. For example, it might help you understand and enjoy a piece faster. Surely you've struggled to understand pieces without repeated listening? There are usually analysis on youtube with timestamps for popular pieces, so you can mentally separate themes and sections, which will make everything digestable. But there's also the fact that it might make music more engaging and interesting. Depending on your intellectual curiosity. It might help you notice more patterns and subtle details. It's also possible to do all that without understanding the formalities, to some degree.Conclusion is that it's up to you. Life is too short if you're not curious enough.
>>127998078ywnbaw disgusting freak
>>127998271>>127998762thank you tradlarper
>>127997290Hantai isn't, and his Scarlatti is better than Ross's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ricjo8ihKs0&t=3346s&pp=ygURaGFudGFpIHNjb3R0IHJvc3M%3D
>>127997130>2nd rate baroque composers are infinitely more talented then first rate classishit/romantislop, more news at 11He's firmly a first rate Baroque composer. In any case, you're retarded.
10th rate romantics are better than entirety of barocaca and classicuck eras excepting late Beethoven.
>>127998805Scott Ross plays more lively and sounds more baroque.
>>127999203To each his own, I listen to baroque music so that obviously makes me not retarded>>127999447>t. NeuroticDon't you have to brood in your cuck corner for the whole day because someone looked at you funny?
>>127998271the only way out of waifufaggotry is to have real sexand we both know a guy who avatarfags as his waifu and listen exclusively to classical is never ever having sex
>>127999574>>127999447both of you are huge faggots
>>127999711sex is gross anyway, good for him.have fun with your STDs, also anyone who has sex with a is a huge faggot because women haven't existed since the early 1900s.
>>127999834do you listen mainly to baroque or to romantic music? important question
>>127999834>with aoops, i meant: modern """woman"""
>>127999854i listen to medieval and renaissance, anything later than Byrd is fake.
>>127998078Thanks for the interesting response.
>>127999834the Great Virgin Cope
>>127999465Nah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7wxAe3RSDU
>>128000316i feel sorry for you, i really do, you've been having sex with men this whole time and didn't even realize it, good luck.
>Pierre Hentai
>>127999834>le sour grapes
>>128000358no, i wish i was wrong, i do, but you know i'm right, deep down you know.
>Chopin Competition first round winners announcedAny thoughts?1. Piotr Alexewicz, Polska2. Jonas Aumiller, Niemcy3. Yanyan Bao, Chiny4. Kai-Min Chang, Chińskie Tajpej5. Kevin Chen, Kanada6. Xuehong Chen, Chiny7. Zixi Chen, Chiny8. Yubo Deng, Chiny9. Yang (Jack) Gao, Chiny10. Eric Guo, Kanada11. Xiaoyu Hu, Chiny12. Zihan Jin, Chiny13. Adam Kałduński, Polska14. David Khrikuli, Gruzja15. Shiori Kuwahara, Japonia16. Hyo Lee, Korea Południowa17. Hyuk Lee, Korea Południowa18. Kwanwook Lee, Korea Południowa19. Xiaoxuan Li, Chiny20. Zhexiang Li, Chiny21. Tianyou Li, Chiny22. Eric Lu, USA23. Philipp Lynov, pianista pod neutralną flagą24. Tianyao Lyu, Chiny25. Ruben Micieli, Włochy26. Nathalia Milstein, Francja27. Yumeka Nakagawa, Japonia28. Vincent Ong, Malezja29. Piotr Pawlak, Polska30. Yehuda Prokopowicz, Polska31. Hao Rao, Chiny32. Anthony Ratinov, USA33. Miyu Shindo, Japonia34. Gabriele Strata, Włochy35. Tomoharu Ushida, Japonia36. Zitong Wang, Chiny37. Yifan Wu, Chiny38. Miki Yamagata, Japonia39. William Yang, USA40. Jacky Zhang, Wielka Brytania
>>128000358>>128000316he's right, people sucking, fucking and licking pee and poop holes, disgusting animals, and you retards pretend it's "normal", and before you say "virgin cope" i have a wife and kids.
>>128000354LOL. I always found that last name amusing.
>In Paris in 1858, Wagner listened to Berlioz reading the libretto of Les Troyens with a mounting anxiety, so that "I really found myself wishing that I might never see him again since, in the end, to be so utterly unable to help a friend can only become unbearably painful. The text is clearly the pinnacle of his misfortune, which nothing now can surpass.">Six years earlier, in a letter to Liszt (Wagner considered Berlioz, Liszt and himself the three most important composers of the day), he had written: "If ever a musician needed a poet, it is Berlioz, and it is his misfortune that he always adapts his poet to his own musical whim, arranging now Shakespeare, now Goethe, to suit his own purpose. He needs a poet to fill him through and through, a poet who is driven by ecstasy to violate him, and who is to him what man is to woman." But the poet Wagner had in mind for this job of violating Berlioz was Wagner himself. He thought that Berlioz ought to set the story of Wieland the Smith, a German legend of which he, Wagner, had written the prose outline.
>>128000425Sounds like polish nationalism is back and they won't let the asians win anymore.
>>128000673>>128000375see>>128000358>>128000316
>>128000731you will understand when you're older.
>>128000693could this be written any poorer?
>>128000735about the cognitive dissonance of a permavirgin? unfortunately I know about that quite a bit from talking to so many of them on this site
>>128000766>permavirginmillennial detected
>>128000766do you really think licking shit holes is normal? it's disgusting and wrong, i artificially inseminated my wife because we are both disgusted by sex.
>>128000425fuck off
>>128000780>OMG SEX IS EPIC BACON>edit: thanks for the gold
Handel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIFBzD1mn6E&list=OLAK5uy_kMjtQ6mL0fqZGX9JPUDqvTT6IMTmqVjn0&index=10
>>128000787Stop larping. You're a loner virgin. Also, you're probably gay.
>>128000933meant for>>128000766>>128001237You wish that was true, but I'm not gonna fuck you, no matter how much you beg for it.
>>128000425I'll keep an eye out for some of those top names for when they eventually release their own recordings.
new Trifonov hot off the presses, a Tchaikovsky albumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEWd5JlSAhw&list=OLAK5uy_kmQ5tchhUnSCEJIWUoAtuzNFsfClOM2pQ&index=15>Star pianist Daniil Trifonov burst on to the international scene winning the International Tchaikovsky Competition in 2011. With this album, Trifonov returns to the music of Tchaikovsky in a beautiful selection of solo works evoking youth and family. The selected pieces include the rarely performed Sonata Op.80, the Children's Album, the Variations Op.19/6 and Pletnev's Concert Suite from Sleeping Beauty. They reflect Tchaikovsky at his most effervescent and intimate and contain some of Trifonov's most electrifying playing to date.
>>128001237why do you get so defensive about muh ebin secks? i'm guessing that's all you have in your life, having sex is basically the same thing as collecting funko pops, it's shallow, degenerate, expensive, all for a fleeting 1 second of physical pleasure, if i cared that much about pleasure i'd just become a heroin junkie, at least in that case the pleasure lasts longer than one second.
Is it time I finally try Goodyear's Beethoven? Always worried the tempo was too fast for me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1sIG15jqiA&list=OLAK5uy_mUHEoa-F3R1-TaG7EWiDhC587_kmVgnro&index=84>Goodyear is a master pianist... Each sonata exists in its own world and each is approached as its own entity. Never was there a feeling of sameness about the playing, and never did I feel that the artist was giving less than his best... Stewart Goodyear may come closest yet in performing these sonatas the way I believe the master himself might have done them... this entire set [is] among the foremost to be had... I'll go with Goodyear as first choice.Becker --American Record Guide>He's got blistering technique along with soulful insight and makes this music sound as though you're hearing it for the first time. This is essential listening for anyone looking to discover Beethoven all over again.Denise Ball, --CBC Music>This is the best recording of the 32 Beethoven piano sonatas I've ever heard, but let's not stop there; I can't think of any performance or recording of any of these 32 sonatas that I prefer to Goodyear's interpretation.>If you already own a recording of all 32 and don't have room for another, consider selling it and buying this one. If you have room for another, buy this one. If you don't have one already, buy this one.>This may be the only recording I never get rid of.Andrew Anderson --Theater JonesDamn that's some serious praise. Plus Jed Distler has it as one of his reference cycles.
>>128001845Tchaikovsky wrote Piano Sonatas?
>>128002030Two in fact! I've always found them fun and exuberant. That Trifonov has the Op. 80, and here's the other one, Op. 37https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7cE6qDGxE
i even saw the lights on the goodyear blimpand it read "beethoven's a pimp"
Is Gulda pronounced like the cheese?
>>128001949kys chud
>>128002122>muh chudu wot m8
>>128002122>kysStop that.
>>128002029I love this set. great 24, 27, 29, and 32
>>128002127>muh degenerate
>>128002224and? yes sex is degenerate, as in disgusting, it has nothing to do with whatever zoomer meme you're thinking of.
For tonight's WTC, we try Ewa Poblock's sethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDrCGWRLSSQ&list=OLAK5uy_lRPmNKAG56r-eBrFC3Yh5vQrxFODGSlI8&index=28Nice warm, pianistic sound. After this one I might truly be out of new ones to try, so I can just enjoy the ones I love.
>>128002248>degenerate>as in disgustingDumb chud.
>>128002224>>128002278so you're someone who focuses on the words used and not the point of the post, also telling people to kill themselves over using a word you don't even know the meaning of is evil, you are a horrible person.
>>128002278i get it, you probably think sex is deep or you collect funko pops, so in your head you think "oh he's just a /pol/ chud, he used le chud word" in an attempt to dismiss my valid points, you do this because you can’t actually counter my arguments. But let me be clear: I’ve never used that board, and Nazism is also extremely degenerate.
>>128002432I mean sex *is* deep if it's someone you're in love with, or at least have a deep, genuine emotional connection with. But yes, one-night stands and related casual sex are tantamount to superior masturbation.
>>128002447yeah that's what i meant
>>128002447it's deep when i'm a whopping 9" inside you're little bussy
i really shouldn't be surprised that some people here are virgins to such an extent that they cope that sex is actually shit and they didn't even want it anyway
>>128002603that's not the point, i have had sex and i can attest to it not being that great, it's just your biology telling you it's great, when you think about it logically, yeah the feeling is good, but i'd much rather shoot up some dope then have an orgasm anyday, god i miss heroin.
Opiates are better than sex, that's true. Anyway, can we drop it and get back to classical please?
Tchaikovsky 5 >>> Tchaikovsky 6
>>128000693>He needs a poet to fill him through and through, a poet who is driven by ecstasy to violate him, and who is to him what man is to woman.ha gay
favorite recording of Medtner's Night Wind sonata?
>>127993344Yes, yes, no (Scriabin)
>>127993407I love Ott but Roe is my go-to for Field's nocturnes>>127993400pic related
>>128002695I disagree but respectable. It's certainly more listenable too -- I have to be in the right mood for the 6th, whereas I can put on the 4th, 5th, and Manfred whenever, however.
>>127993420>Satie is perfect for sleepMaybe if you've only listened to the meme pieces
>>127993957Resident Leslie Howard Evangelist here: I approve
>>128002797Marc-André Hamelin for all of them, really
>>128001845>mfw I see the waitress coming over w/ my mozzie sticks
can YouTube Music unlock Aimard's recording of book 2 of Bach's WTC already? FUCKThe single sample is so goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgWXRX3tF90&list=OLAK5uy_n4NWjgpNX1J7BnOKgSB7kySQLRAHoHQz0&index=1
>>128000425>Chopin>plagued with slavs and chinkslikeC L O C KLOCKW O R KORK
>>128002964lolSomething about the album art looks so uncanny, I've looked at it several times already.
>>128000425>pianista pod neutralną flagąSo, russian
>>128002980The pose is stilted and awkward, and it looks like a cheap phone filter
>>128003026Yeah, plus the proportions are off, his head is massive for that child's body. But maybe Trifonov just looks like that, in which case I apologize.
>>128003135Almost looks like they took the head and hands from an actual picture, applied a filter, and then digitally painted the rest around it.
>>128002257Decent but bland.After listening to a ton of WTC sets lately, both well-known and obscure, it only reinforces something I've noticed with classical recordings: outside of maybe one or two gems at most, the best recordings always rise to the top. For the WTC, all of the recordings which are famous achieved that stature for a reason, and if a recording is languishing in obscurity, it's almost certainly not an issue of marketing but distinguished quality. I guess that means it's time to listen to Richter, Koroliov, Hewitt, Crochet, Aldwell, Nikoleyeva, and Ugorskaja for the rest of my life, no others needed.
>>128003226> the best recordings always rise to the top. For the WTC, all of the recordings which are famous achieved that stature for a reasonExplain Gould's popularity then
thoughts on Ohlsson's Scriabin cycle?
>>128003269I don't care for it but I see the appeal. Same with Schiff's. If I had to pick an iffy popular one, it'd be Keith Jarrett's, and even then I can recognize people must like his jazz foundation.
>>128003336>I see the appealI suppose the ASMR fetish HAS proven to be an untapped goldmine after all. In that sense the useless moaner was ahead of the game.
thoughts on Tchaikovsky's 2nd Piano Concerto?https://youtu.be/2i0_Sh9Gc8Y?
>>128003361:pHey, for me, I just want the WTC pieces to sound first and foremost poetic and beautiful (and secondarily emotionally expressive), hence my favorites. Some people want to jackoff over the counterpoint and want clarity, hence Schiff. Some people want experimentation and formal creativity, hence Gould and Gulda. It's not for me but like I said, I get it.
>>128003371The better composed of the two, but lacks a big fat choon
>>128003437>Some people want experimentation and formal creativityThey should listen to modernists then, and leave tradition to be traditional. You can even do both, it's possible. I sure as fuck do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaY69MsHqj4why does it say steinway & sons under his name, is he sponsored or do they get to choose different pianos to play?
>>128003452Well, to each their own!
>>128003476>or do they get to choose different pianos to play?It would appear so. peep:https://www.reddit.com/r/piano/comments/1nxjvgf/19th_chopin_competition_first_roun_first_day_what
>>128002029>>128002174Guess it can't hurt to gave the first few a try1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnzctct-wN4&list=OLAK5uy_mUHEoa-F3R1-TaG7EWiDhC587_kmVgnro&index=22https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdrTRDnHxw&list=OLAK5uy_mUHEoa-F3R1-TaG7EWiDhC587_kmVgnro&index=63https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd-6jKRHKUU&list=OLAK5uy_mUHEoa-F3R1-TaG7EWiDhC587_kmVgnro&index=9idk maybe I'm just so used to slower tempo cycles but I can't help but hear the playing as incessantly rushed, almost overly aggressive. No one else? Maybe I'll acclimate to it.
favorite Concertos?Bach - Concerto for 2 Violins, BWV 1043Elgar - Cello ConcertoBrahms - Piano Concerto No. 2Debussy - Fantaisie for Piano and OrchestraDvořák - Cello ConcertoGrieg - Piano ConcertoMedtner - Piano Concerto No. 2Mendelssohn - Violin Concerto, Op. 64Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 2Raff - Piano ConcertoBach - Keyboard Concerto No.1, BWV 1052Sibelius - Violin ConcertoHaydn - Cello Concerto No. 1 in C MajorSchumann - Piano ConcertoBruch - Violin Concerto No. 1Scriabin - Piano ConcertoHandel - Organ Concerto No. 13, HWV 295Telemann - Viola Concerto, TWV 51:G9 Vaughan Williams - Piano ConcertoTchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No. 1Schumann - Cello ConcertoProkofiev - Piano Concerto No. 3Saint-Saëns - Cello Concerto No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 33
>>128003596What do you think of Busoni's immense piano concerto?
hisster sisters be like:
>>128003606Not the guy you're replying to, but I remember a few years back trying to get people here to pay more attention to it, and Busoni in general. I think it's one of the greatest piano concertos of the 20th century, if indeed we can call it a concerto. It's more of a choral symphony with piano obbligato than a concerto. Anyway, excellent piece of early modernism.
>>128003596I appreciate the effort, and you've got a well-rounded, diverse list of favorites, but I feel like there just aren't enough first-rate concerti to make a list like this worth doing, for we'll ultimately all converge around the same handful of works, with the only variance being which few great ones get excluded from any given list in that instance. That's my view, anyway.That said, more love for Prokofiev's Symphony-Concerto, Op. 125!!
>>128003596Really, no Mozart or Beethoven, or just avoiding the obvious?
>>128003750Considering there are only four instruments represented on that list, two bowed and two keyed, I think there's plenty first-rate works that could be brought up that wouldn't have us all converge around the same works. I mean >>128003596 could've included at least one clarinet concert, for example.
>>128003765True, if someone had Nielsen or Weber's or Copland's Clarinet Concerto in their favorites I'd be kinda impressed. But we all know there's only one worth listing, hence the issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVo0MsJMOc
Kempff is a genius.
>>128003798>we all know there's only one worth listingPainfully wrong, and I regret trying to engage with someone who'd say something like that
>>128003853s-sorry :(What's your favorite? Spohr? Finzi? Carter!?
>>128003891Clarinet? I'm very fond of Weber's, which might be part of the "same handful of works", but I'm also greatly fond of one you mentioned, Nielsen's, and Hindemith's. I think they're on par with Weber's, radically different as they are. There's also something, indeed a lot, to be said about Eybler's, which is in my opinion just as good as Mozart's
>>128004028Honourable mention goes to Reicha, probably the greatest writer for winds of the late classical/early romantic period
>>128004028In that case, fair enough, and perhaps it's just me with a basic taste in concertos.
the english Clair De Lunehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RptbGqJLazs
best recording?
>>128002839Rachmaninoff and Horowitz are the ones referred to as the "last great romantics", late Scriabin isn't really 'romantic'>>128005423Ever? Of all time? Richter's Appassionata.
>>128005467>Richter's Appassionatawhich one? he recorded it multiple times.
>>128005473Interpretations are very similar if not identical, differences are in sound quality from what I can tell. These two work:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5y2tAXlgs&list=OLAK5uy_mPLPKL0XFKSLRPMW3rFadn0fHBiiGfJuU&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhB6TWMRFA&list=OLAK5uy_ntdcBf6mT36mXamQwJGKk5C_7T0gorOwI&index=4
>>128002974I mean, he was half slavic, so what do you expect
>>128000708only four Poles made it through though, out of 14I hope Kałduński and Pawlak advance further, the other two were less interestingthe winner will be a Chink, Jap, Pole or David Khrikuli tbqh
>>128003596Poulenc's are great, especially the organ concerto (Concerto for organ, timpani and strings). It's fucking sublime. Go listen to it NOW.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RduLr1Cp9Ls
>>128004028>EyblerGood rec, thanks. Anything else worth hearing by the composer?
>>128005666fuck, how could i forget about Poulenc's Organ Concerto?
thots?
>>128004700ehh
>>128006052still no one beats Cziffra for the Hungarian Rhapsodies.
why do you fuckers hate me so much? what the fuck did i ever do to you?
>>128006267Glenn Gould? I thought you're dead
>>128006267who?
>>128002106Beethoven’s a blimp
>>128006052His tempo is bad
>>128006361you could say it's Mal-tempo
>>128006365Bravo!
>>128006267But I love you!
>>128006267We love everyone here except that senile, stinky Iv*s poopster.
>>128006383Don’t bravo him That wax the joke I was making in the first place
>>128006413i actually know that guy in real life, he has AIDS and cross-dresses at furry conventions.
>>128006447>That was the jokeyes, that was the joke
why do i keep hallucinating Liszt popping up in the corner of my monitor?
I finally enjoy Schubert's lieder. One of my favorite composers whose works I didn't get until now. Thank you, Liszt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bA419uBntY&list=OLAK5uy_nO8lFMPvcbZoh9GeC3nDXrXJCzXN9CX_E&index=33
>>128006471>>128006476Magic
>>128006476Thiszt
>>128006476is there a version of this transcription with vocals?
I finally enjoy Beethoven's Symphonies. One of my favorite composers whose works I didn't get until now. Thank you, Liszt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I42Afr-OUso
>>128006537is there an orchestral version of this transcription?
>>128006536The point is to get rid of ugly primates screeching and let the wood and strings do their thing
>>128006537Thiszt
>>128006558autism strikes again!
I finally enjoy Wagner's overtures. One of my favorite composers whose works I didn't get until now. Thank you, Liszt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-k-Hrbr_RQ
Bach is my GOAT
Stockhausen edition next or I'm not posting
Chopin competition edition
Ia it a good thing that few people listen to classicla music or should it be popularized?
Scriabin Edition
>>128006629It can't be popularized
Fuck that kike Schoenberg
>>128006583Thiszt
>>128006052Pretty good but at this point I think I still prefer Campanella's
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>>128006730>>128006864>Animetard vs obnoxious baroque autistAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA can't have shit in detroit, why is everything gay
>>128006870i'll take the animetard anyday, the gigachad meme is probably the gayest zoomershit meme by far.
