Hovhaness editionhttps://youtu.be/JCC796Wrw3IThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>129799268
Harmony is the simultaneous sounding of two or more notesCounterpoint is the relationship of two or more simultaneous musical linesMusical lines are made of notesTwo or more musical lines, made of notes, constitute harmonyTheir relationship therefore is inherently harmonicCounterpoint therefore is a form of harmonyq.e.d.
now playingstart of Scriabin: Piano Sonata in G-Sharp Minor, Op. 19 No. 2 "Sonata Fantasy"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OON2XFfnLZQ&list=OLAK5uy_nR_RrLZAjp-vqpwdu7o4jXMkREFQYBiiI&index=2start of Liszt: Piano Sonata in B Minor, S. 178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_Xdj15iF48&list=OLAK5uy_nR_RrLZAjp-vqpwdu7o4jXMkREFQYBiiI&index=4start of Chopin: 24 Préludes, Op. 28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHIhnV_4YMg&list=OLAK5uy_nR_RrLZAjp-vqpwdu7o4jXMkREFQYBiiI&index=7Medtner: 4 Fairy Tales, Op. 26: No. 2 in E-Flat Major - Molto Vivacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uufJWpOLAL8&list=OLAK5uy_nR_RrLZAjp-vqpwdu7o4jXMkREFQYBiiI&index=30https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nR_RrLZAjp-vqpwdu7o4jXMkREFQYBiiINice program by a great pianist. Highly recommended!
>>129817264excuse you<-----you have been warned
>>129817296Bait should be believableDogma should be defensibleRitual should be repeatableLiturgy should be legibleBelief should be beautifulWhat fulfils these conditions in the decadent modern world in which "God is Dead"? Answer: the holy poetry of Richard Wagner and his "Sacred Festival Stage Play" which transforms and supersedes religion.https://youtu.be/yF0pwSC7qWg?list=PL_Cf5Xxn5OZY1gE9zsWHAjXz6MVz9IZYS
>>129817296eat my shit
>>129817176I actually prefer his 1942 recording.
anyone familiar with this Beethoven piano sonatas cycle by Claude Frank? just came across it. it has a 10; 8 rating from Jed Distler on classicstoday. recorded in the late 60s.1st, Op. 2 No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU0vDWtnyRo&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=216th, Op. 31https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIKyy1HuvZ4&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=623rd, Op. 57, "Appassionata"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6meHH5Y5s&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=9hope it's good!
>>129817264>Counterpoint therefore is a form of harmonyTrue.However, harmonic counterpoint is still not the same as modal counterpoint, so your entire post is just a random nonsense.
>>129817360Wrong
>>129817360>harmonic counterpoint is still not the same as modal counterpointBut both are counterpoint, which leads us back to the definitions>>129817264>q.e.d.
>>129817348Ten CDs for the price of five? Who could resist such a deal!
>>129817416they knew what a tantalizing bargain was back in the late 60s!
Hm... maybe I should embark upon some Chopin preludes comparative listening tomorrow...
>>129817366No, I am 100% correct.>>129817388Yeah, modal counterpoint is still not harmonic counterpoint, despite having harmony.
>>129817434And yet counterpoint, all forms of it, remains forever a form of harmony. Good game.
>>129817348As a complete set, it's fine, but I don't think that there are any particular standouts. Most people just bring him up as a Schnabel pupil, piggybacking off of Schnabel's reputation, but they didn't really have that much in common in terms of technique or interpretation. It's a solid set, though.
>>129817447I see, thanks :)>>129817433It's a masterpiece worthy of possessing multiple sets on rotation, while comparing amongst a wider population
feels like a Das Rheingold -> Meistersinger -> Flying Dutchman -> Die Walkure dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt8_gbpd7Gs&list=OLAK5uy_mEQiYSocL26ufJr_DxnjWNSdOVLmtnGN0&index=1>The Flying Dutchman is one of the most accessible of Wagner's works, and though it is the first of his operas that earned a permanent place in the repertory, it still possesses many aspects of conventional operatic practice, as well as a Weberian leitmotiv structure much simpler than that exhibited in Wagner's music after Tristan. Surprisingly, despite its accessibility, recordings of the work that are not deficient on technical or vocal or musical grounds seem to be in comparatively short supply. An exception is this classic CSO-Solti effort dating from the late '70s, where the sound is reasonably up to date, and the casting ranges from good to excellent. Of all recordings of this Wagnerian milestone, Solti's interpretation of this score still seems most authoritative. --Christian C. Rix
With Easter fast approaching, there should only be one question on everyone's mind: which recording of the St. Matthew Passion will you be listening to?
>>129817744There's so many options... perhaps<-----https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djMqjExVAog&list=OLAK5uy_mFEo1rkGb4W7O4nFZrki4zOH-6KCzuT6c&index=1
>>129817224based thread, OP.>>129817264looking at things practically I would say counterpoint (specifically strict species counterpoint) should be classified as one of at least four equally correct perspectives of harmony with the other three being root progressions, set theory, and part writing.
>>129817514>flying dutchmansorry, I've got burger-mind.Its still a little wild that Mcdonald's decided to go with this ad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sonAl9bQaVI
>>129817812that's nothing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P4Risj_WyM
there is a potentially lucrative market for piano arrangements of late 20th century orchestral works...https://vocaroo.com/13mZWFrVznk4
>>129817993yes, there is a potentially lucrative market for pop, we know
>>129817224https://youtu.be/GJ9A5tn-9RE
>>129817993Intriguing!>piano arrangements of late 20th century orchestral works...piano arrangements are always welcome
>piano arrangements are always welcome
it's pronounced 'alan have-anus'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkgHdR-nH8E
>>129818008silence, philistine.>>129818014It's a very time-consuming process but it's worth it. btw, that vocaroo is the introduction to Hov-Sym-22 which didn't take too long to make a two-hand piano arrangement of, but the final movement will be a bit daunting as it's a sprawling double fugue with multiple expositions.
>>129818111suck my dick
>>129818111yeah if I were a composer (ie had the ability) I would definitely be spending a decent amount of time composing arrangements of random works I liked for fun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzy8UY45lx8&list=OLAK5uy_k6twhiyBBNjknXgPp7zMur7z76NQwkXaQ&index=4
>>129818157and there is definitely no shortage of late 20th century pieces to work with either.
I really like Lugansky
>>129818223Me too :)Relevant to the discussion from the last thread, let's see how he handles Chopin's Preludes, Op. 28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFzTkVVTBlw
For today's opera performance, we listen to Strauss' Daphne conducted by Karl Bohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaWJFaF2Q1A&list=OLAK5uy_lPZDslH539QYWTk1xsyJvuBJHOHVr672c&index=2
>>129818251its on the playlist :3
>>129818298my brother
HOLY SHIT
>>129819678so true rymsister
Bachhttps://youtu.be/ZRY7zrMGCi8
Oscar-Arthur Honeggerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu7NskuYF7Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2WmIoUeX1chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5nMSrME-4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PjvRC6OGbohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAl6ZnIDwKEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqSFBwBC0S0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_73erL8o_9whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4FmuobrUs4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AR8Y8bWFSwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLcpEF29nQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbTdcWUTV4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prxyp8EHITohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrDpP0Z2ojEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeqhKYRV7ughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocZ_0CayFohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcHHFH1AN_0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qFqUUQx2Lshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ddnp-GHn6Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJm2AEcbzIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vnhPVyMb38https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDy3brfTcIshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQw_xezqK_shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUGLqJEfJAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpT_I8tjxbQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTd_1GKeQg8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYCB3PdLakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wjT1ycujT4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8FX5ZtnNMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iphzdVU9kEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlg0r2wXuIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZRBxy6onXM
>>129820495>HoneggerHey
>>129820626yeah yeah le epic racis joke etc etc, did you listen to any of the music?
>>129820495thanks for the effort post. I'll have it playing in the background.
>>129820712what'll be?
>>129820720Honegger's music obviously.
>>129820728I meant specifically, or are you going through all the links
>>129820732I'm going through the links in the order you posted. currently I'm listening to string quartet No. 1.
>>129820746Thanks, appreciated. Hope you get at least half the enjoyment I got from them
>>129820495That first string quartet is groovy.
>mfw listening to a Solti performance and the brass plays
>>129820495i'll have to give this Hoe-Nigger a try, thanks.
>>129817264Is harmony only the simultaneous sounding of notes and also I think that the concept of 2 or more lines of {melody} sounding simultaneously over time has a bearing on that claimhttps://youtu.be/iaPqP57iYOM
Yup
>>129821672>selected piecesdismissed
>>129821672He was a pretty mid organ player. Listen to someone who could actually play
>>129817433>Jorge BoletNot impressed. The slower tempi felt rather schleppend.>Rudolf SerkinVery good in a couple, but overall mediocre.>Artur RubinsteinUnsentimental and matter-of-fact. Definitely has something to it. Enough of that something to justify enduring the audio quality? Not sure.>Victor MerzhanovSolid performance, but not noticeably more solid than the top modern recordings. More solid than most though!
>>129821727Yeah I wouldn't consider any of those top-tier either (especially agreed on the audio quality tradeoff with Rubinstein).
https://youtu.be/RakJMtyNWfw?si=EnqAgBUD74qnaTwpWhat do you think of Chiu's performance of Chopin's Mazurkas? I think they are ok overall, still think I prefer Rubinstein. I've never been a fan of Horowitz, I think he tends to rush, but I respect his interpretations and some really shine. I am listening Garrick Ohlsson's version tomorrow.>>129821727>Enough of that something to justify enduring the audio quality? Not sureI can get that Rubinstein is not for most people. Instead, I got used to the bad quality because my first CDs of Chopin were mostly his.
one day i WILL learn to appreciate the third book of Liszt's Annees de pelerinagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86i0U7H0x4
>>129821859>What do you think of Chiu's performance of Chopin's Mazurkas?probably the same way I always feel about Chiu's recordings: decent, completely listenable, but not great. good enough to finish the recording but not good enough to ever return to it if you can find other, better sets.just listened to the one you linked; yeah, that's about right. plenty of superior mazurka recordings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LffYYovpko&list=OLAK5uy_kZKkzJsC2iXFoTyGmNc8-YiGcvO7mKrtY&index=2
Let's see what's new on the front page of The Classic Review this morningTop 5 Handel Messiah recordings, dope, will check that out at some point. Bavouzet continues his Mozart piano concertos cycle. Don't know who this Radulovic character is but I'm always up for more recordings of Prokofiev's violin works. Bach, Mozart, Britten piano concertos? Meh. And a new recording of Walton's symphonies by the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra conducted by some Asian looking fellow I've never heard of? Hell yeah, that sounds dope. Which to start with...>Kazuki Yamada and the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra make their DG debut together in a program devoted to Walton‘s two symphonies and Orb and Sceptre. It is a fitting choice for a first album on the label, offering a broad view of the composer, from ceremonial pageantry to the more searching and contrasted worlds of the symphonies... A skilled reading of the First, then, with an exceptional reading of the Second.start of the first symphonyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BarhLtkoVU&list=OLAK5uy_kQytCbU_3KntgmlV-ExYabvKpCzcrp5ks&index=2This should be good! Actually let's check out that Bavouzet Mozart too after this. It seems to contain the 7th and 10th concertos + some singular pieces.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SotqX4OiOo&list=OLAK5uy_klmspqapoDOgDq80TVbWWr4fK2BOKNPHo&index=2
If anyone's interested the Netherlands Bach Society is streaming Bach's Matthews Passion right now.
The top five best recordings of Handel's Messiah as chosen and listed by The Classic Review's editorial team>Handel composed Messiah in just 24 days in late summer 1741, setting a libretto by Charles Jennens drawn from the King James Bible and the Psalms of the Book of Common Prayer. Premiered in Dublin the following April, the oratorio quickly established itself as one of the supreme achievements of Baroque choral music, and it has remained a cornerstone of the concert repertoire ever since.>Structured in three parts tracing the prophecy and birth of Christ, his passion, resurrection, and ascension, and finally the promise of resurrection and glorification, Messiah stands apart from Handel’s dramatic operas and other oratorios in having no named characters or staged narrative action. Its power lies instead in the cumulative effect of arias, recitatives, and choruses that move between contemplation and exultation with extraordinary rhetorical force, reaching one of its most famous peaks in the Hallelujah chorus.>The English Concert & Choir, Trevor Pinnock>The Sixteen, Harry Christophers>London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis>Gabrieli Consort & Players, Paul McCreesh>English Baroque Soloists & Monteverdi Choir, John Eliot GardinerNo Karl Richter?? A travesty. That aside, pretty good. There's been so many recordings of the masterpiece that it must be difficult to narrow down to a top five, so the Richter omission aside, which is my personal favorite despite being incredibly unidiomatic, this is as good of a list as you can hope for I suppose. I also love Solti and Shaw but like I said, with only five slots, for covering all your interpretive bases, something has to be cut.link to the McCreech recording -- so incredibly good!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEY7xiQw594&list=OLAK5uy_mgEYklzoodwA8Sho9aAbt-ls9ACkwNKkE&index=24https://theclassicreview.com/best-of/top-five-handel-messiah-the-best-recordings/
>>129822071With Suzuki conducting, neat. Thanks for the shout.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JqyZmHkXpM
some classical entertainment and humorThe Most Passive-Aggressive Schubert Rehearsal Everhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-UaEnEtQDEI'd watch a television series of this stuff!
>>129822098>live>its actually prerecordedWhats the point
>>129822098Suzuki looking like a corpseWhat's with with conductors, it seems to be a field where no one ever retires until they're literally dead. I'd be pissed if I were a young professional conductor, because as we see in other fields, every boomer occupying a senior, prestigious position is a hard ceiling blocking everyone below them from rising on the career ladder. This applies to other soloist musicians too of course. Difficult to become the next Yo-Yo Ma or Daniel Barenboim or Andras Schiff when you have to directly compete with them.Now, obviously, from a fan/viewer/audience perspective, we want to prolong our ability to enjoy the greats for as long as possible (ex. you never seen Yo-Yo Ma live? he's still performing! a conductor like Suzuki performing Bach gets you excited enough to purchase tickets to attend a show and buy a new recording? you're in luck, he's still performing!), I'm just saying there are significant drawbacks to this kind of thing too. DG spending time, effort, and money on yet another Barenboim cycle of Beethoven's piano sonatas is a possible set, exposure, and experience you might not get from a young up-and-comer (or with Nelsons choosing to feature Yo-Yo Ma in his Shostakovich set for the cello concertos, that's a job and performance that won't go to a younger musician, an opportunity totally inaccessible to them). Not necessarily and completely, of course, you still get cases like Igor Levit and there are obviously plenty of young musicians to go around, but you get my point, and with conductors, having a limited amount of slots for orchestra directors, it's a much more common issue.damn I'm rambling today
>>129822098Why are there so many asians. They clearly aren't Christian and not playing with true passion for the Lord which the piece requires.
Happy Piano day, what piano works are we listening to
>>129822700None.
I bet all those choral works are 100x better if you actually could understand German
>>129822700Some étudeshttps://youtu.be/KsGLmrR0BVs?si=BsAxmHNI1Qws-Um8https://youtu.be/Qi5A2te4mnI?si=zB3ntkRynUKuwty4https://youtu.be/pTSPqWNNAs0?si=SR_cPDIUOu9IXZDi
>>129822826You would think so but then whenever I listen to choral works in English, I find myself not paying much attention to the lyrics just the same anyway. That's me tho.
>>129822700>>129822700https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmo3pLH-Veo&list=OLAK5uy_ldbQuu2l6uueuBCYNLSrbLHoYNmjYUjcI&index=11
>>129821455>>129822597>They clearly aren't Christian and not playing with true passion for the Lord which the piece requires.lol. lmfao.
>>129821727>Behzod AbduraimovNice enough, but faceless. There's no reason to choose this one over something else.>Cyprien KatsarisHighly idiomatic and gripping from the very first note. Seems like a love-it-or-hate-it kind of interpretation. Personally, I love it. Well, except No. 14, that one was a bit too much.>Ann ScheinDelicate. Dare I say sensitive? The approach does not work equally well across the set. Perhaps you have to be in the mood for it. Interesting for sure.>Wojciech SwitalaDecent interpretation, but let's be real: the only reason to listen to this set is the novelty of the period instrument. Which sounds good for the most part, but noticeably worse than a modern grand in some passages.
Slept in and missed the St Matthauspassion livestream. Fuck me, I just had to get drunk last night and spend several hours straight jerking it to the new Angel vids
Why is this general always dead on sundays?
>>129824206Probably every general I've ever visited was dead on sundays.I'm always lurking but rarely posting so can't really say why this happens.
>>129824206Just got back from a special Palm Sunday mass. They choir sang some chorales from Bachs Passions.
>>129821645you've been given all the information you need
>>129821455Heall yeah brother, almost Bartókian in rhythm and melody but also vaguely Schönbergian in that stark, angularly modern way>>129824206I'm nursing a hangover from partying so hard last night. Just kidding, Sundays are just a good day to relax and lower screen time.
>>129824206At church
>>129824666gay
>>129824206>>129824206No 4chan on the sabbath
>>129824666>666kek. Satan's Church maybe.
>>129824802a.k.a. the laic synagogue
>>129823617>Vladimir SofronitskyWow the recording quality is terrible. Everything sounds mushy and blurred. Though it is tolerable once you get used to it. But the interpretation doesn't really sound that special to be honest.>Benno MoiseiwitschExcellent interpretation, but I do think that has been equalled by some modern recordings.>Grigory Sokolov (1990)Every note sounds deliberate and purposeful, with a lot of thought put into every decision. Sometimes it veered off from deliberate to just slow, but an incredible recording overall.>Grigory Sokolov (2008)Not as good as his first one.
>>129825569>SokolovNow we're talkin'. His is fantastic. And different.
>>129825569ok now try Argerich
>>129825585I already know and love her recording, but I will relisten to it tomorrow.
>>129825585I'm sure they've got a system, and are well aware of Argerich and the other highly acclaimed recordings of Op. 28.
yikeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh4LkA-o9W4
>>129825885nothing wrong with mentioning it anyway just in case
>>129825998On the contrary it's very wrong, and I pray you do not repeat your mistake again.I kid. Yeah you right.
>>129825929Finally, the perfect vision of the Master, realised
>>129822078if it doesn't have Jeffrey Thomas then disregard the list
>>129826012I haven't heard his but check out the McCreesh link I posted, it's very, very good!
>>129825569>>129825647you might find this post useful and interesting, anonhttps://classicalguy.substack.com/p/building-a-collection-57-chopinsI've found a lot of great recordings through this blog. I guess while I'm waiting for the oven to preheat, I'll manually copy-and-paste each name/recommendation,>Alfred Cortot 1933>Vladimir Sofronitsky 1949>Claudio Arrau 1960 live (alt. 1974 studio)>Jorge Bolet 1974 live + 1988 studio>Maurizio Pollini 1975>Martha Argerich>Vladimir Ashkenazy 1978>Ivo Pogorelich>Louis Lortie>Alexandre Tharaud>Daniil Trifonov>Ingrid Fliter> Grigory Sokolov 2008 live>Cristian Budu> Behzod Abduraimov>Dong Hyek Limand then there's an honorable mentions list at the bottom which contains another 15 or so names, some of which I'm familiar with and love myself, eg Francois, Freire, Lugansky, Rana, Blechacz, Fujita. The post is still well worth checking out for its writings on each recording and the piece itself. Hope to hear your thoughts!
>>129826137Thank you. A couple of those weren't on my radar.
>>129826137Clicked on this substack's main page and immediately saw that the Quatuor Ébène have recently released a Mendelssohn octet recording. I should listen since I loved their first Mendelssohn release.
>>129826024I'm familiar, and yes it's good. Thomas's is just my overall favorite because of tempo choices.
>>129826216>Quatuor Ébène have recently released a Mendelssohn octet recordingOh dope, I like that ensemble too, added.
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTyN6MXOVog
Taking a break from Chopin's preludes with some Rachmaninoff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caL6hi_BEqw
>>129826361>when they don't even list the performer's name on the album cover:S
>>129826375it says right there Ludwig Van Beethoven can't you read
>>129826405he's never catching on
>>129817296>#8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNiHzOsjoLQ
>>129826361It's a strange piece ngl, I can barely hear the "variations", it's just a Rachmaninoff piece with a Chopin prelude to me, unlike his Paganini variations. When I do hear them, it's very brief and barely recognizable.Variation pieces are sometimes like this, Diabelli variations is incomprehensible nonsense to me whereas variation movements of C# minor quartet and sonata no.30 aren't.
>>129826528what about the superior Paganini variationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AcxIfhC6HEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZUk6u7qFvo
Faganini
>>129826675
>tfw lonely>meet someone who likes classical+lives close>even has almost exactly the same taste as me, both of us very surprised>get ghosted, again3rd time I'm getting ghosted this year, and each time I suffer. What a bunch of heartless fucks.
>>129826762have you considered not sending a dick pic in the first week of knowing them? that might be your problem
>>129826470welcome anon!
>>129826762you are probably only attractive personality-wise and not physically - a common mistake around these parts
>>129826829Never did that. Whatever you imagine, I didn't do.
y'know what, now that I'm very familiar with many other sets and performances, I do hear the deficits in Solti's Ring cycle now
>>129826861I imagine you were charming and engaging
>>129826857>tfw i'm the oppositejust when I was becoming a social and sexual pro, I become a shut-in for 3-4 years. lost all my skills. better looking than ever now tho
>>129826868topkek
now playingstart of Chopin: Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-Flat Minor, Op. 35 "Funeral March"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YguXLhSi5hY&list=OLAK5uy_k23zeE3Kj6s6eU8rN9rj7IZU3Ngc7HiBI&index=2start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 29 in B-Flat Major, Op. 106 "Hammerklavier"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yENI4v9pPW0&list=OLAK5uy_k23zeE3Kj6s6eU8rN9rj7IZU3Ngc7HiBI&index=5>Beatrice Rana, characterised by Gramophone as a pianist of "fire and poetry, imagination and originality, temperament and charm, all on top of fearless technical address", brings together two monumental sonatas: Beethoven's 'Hammerklavier' op 106 and Chopin's 'Funeral March' op 35. >The Chopin has been in Rana's recital repertoire for more than a decade, but it was during the confinement of the pandemic that she first undertook intense study of Beethoven. "I really found a deep connection with this music, especially because of the isolation, being locked away from the rest of the world. Despite the fact that it reflected so much of what was going on at that time, it's a very positive piece. It really helped me through the pandemic. It is a very human sonata, but the Chopin sonata is human in a very different way. The trio in the middle of the funeral march [the famous third movement] is kind of übermenschlich - how a philosopher might describe surpassing oneself in a transcendental way.">Rana also believes that both works show their composers in technically adventurous form: "The last movements of the two sonatas are both experiments at the highest level and in completely different ways... In the Beethoven every line is going everywhere... and in the Chopin the two hands are parallel for the entire movement." She concludes that both works "transcend the human condition in very different ways - but not altogether different... They both have so much to do with the fear of death, with the fear of loneliness. Each finds a solution in different ways."
>>129826762Why are you bothering with other humans? Just stay at home and listen to classical or go to lives alone, don't be a normalfag
[Siegfried leitmotif plays]dodo dodo do do do do
>>129826947Wanting to have a friend is being a normalfag? Whatever.
>>129827045the fact that you actually replied to >>129826947 in a sincere, autistic manner most likely demonstrates your problem
>>129821694>Listen to someone who could actually playSuch as?
>>129827054Anyone whose name is not Gould
>>129827054https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az4Lt1-66J4
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLZcdenPeNE&list=OLAK5uy_lxR1Ck4s9ATZy3_m6ZXNyEjDPHtx04eGM&index=9
>>129827054Angela Hewitt
now playingstart of Sibelius: Symphony No. 3 in C Major, Op. 52https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JkAlpdi-P0&list=OLAK5uy_ktdx8O52DZWk90OZlehtuZKGw_1vXKniU&index=2start of Sibelius: Symphony No. 5 in E-Flat Major, Op. 82https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Bwjq7ivjY&list=OLAK5uy_ktdx8O52DZWk90OZlehtuZKGw_1vXKniU&index=5Sibelius: Pohjola's Daughter, Op. 49https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_Y0gCErf8&list=OLAK5uy_ktdx8O52DZWk90OZlehtuZKGw_1vXKniU&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ktdx8O52DZWk90OZlehtuZKGw_1vXKniU
>>129827517>organPay attention, anon
>>129827045Not being able to stand being alone is indeed being a normalfag. Don't bother with people, your time on this earth is limited. Instead, listen to more composers.
>>129827887rich coming from the friendless git trying to drag down others to his level of patheticness, maybe that way he won't feel so desperately alone
>>129827917He must accept that the world has no meaning and expect nothing from others, or else he’ll be truly miserable. In fact it seems he already is, since he’s realized just how worthless most human are. There’s nothing pathetic about being alone, especially in this rotten world. In fact, if anything it's a respectable and admirable choice.
>>129827963Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel a bit better about being a sad little no-friend human shart
>>129827963>choiceIt really isn't though, is it.
>>129828000>>129828003Usual reaction from normalfags don't have what it takes to accept this truth and who have never understood the beauty of solitude. I won't argue further with you retards, if you're such a proud normal scum you should probably post on facebook instead of imageboards.
>Usual reaction from normalfags don't have what it takes to accept this truth and who have never understood the beauty of solitude. I won't argue further with you retards, if you're such a proud normal scum you should probably post on facebook instead of imageboards.
>>129828127wrong image
>>129828135same difference
WTC is too long
>>129828165no one is forcing you to listen to all of it at once
>>129828165it took less than two hours if I recall
Strauss should have wrote his own four opera epic.>>129828165As I'm so often reminded on here, you don't actually have to listen to all of it at once. I personally like breaking it up into four-parts -- book one 1-12, 13-24, book two 1-12-13-24
>>129826947the most pathetic post ever
>>129826762I haven't been out with anyone in 2026, but I went out 5 times in 2025, and each one was just a single date. Out of those 5 times, 4 were complete ghosts. I am beginning to think I am repellent. Remember, Beethoven was single though.
>>129828290you're not Beethoven
>>129828290I told my brother it was fine I didn't know how to cook because neither could Beethoven. He responded, "But you're not Beethoven." I haven't spoken to him since.
>>129828300good for him
I think people who aren't explicitely deformed or asexual, and yet have never kissed a woman by the age of 21 and cope by using words such as "normalfags" to describe man who have do so should 100% honestly kill themselves.
>>129828361Late bloomers are common in today's world, nothing wrong with that. Anyway, not related to classical, fuck off.
>>129828369touched a nerve
Karl Bohm is an interesting conductor. He doesn't seem to have an identifiable style. He just does things well. I'd be surprised if one could ever recognize a Bohm performance without being told.
>>129828290>>129828300>>129828117full heads of hair>>129828361>>129828298>>129828276balding millennial neurotics
>>129828440>full heads of hairas one would hope is the case with 12 year olds, yes
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnjv7W1YNa4
>>129826913This might be the best Chopin 2 I've ever heard.
imagine thinking "lol ur balding" is an insult, how fragile would you need to be to think like that
>>129828440does getting laid make you lose hair?
>>129828752correlation: It's called testosterone
Bruckner will hit you with the greatest music you have ever heard followed by 6 straight minutes of the most boring shit you have ever heare followed by 30 seconds of amazing music again
>>129829037>6 straight minutes of the most boring shit you have ever hearecan't say I relate, sorry
>>129829052you cannot tell me you care about anything between the intro and the middle-point climax in the finale of Bruckner's 8th with a straight face
>>129829037I suppose I could see that with the 5th at tim-->>129829079--the 8th is great from start-to-finish, imo. Maybe you just need to try a different recording. Perhaps a faster tempo, or better handling of those parts you consider boring.
>>129829079I can
Is Schönberg worth getting into or not?
>>129829210Find outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzYyJsN70e0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nf0pN6Ip4Love these two pieces, when he was still doing romanticism.
>>129829220I know the first one. Clearly he was a talented composer. Does that carry through to his atonal works or not?
>>129829237>Does that carry through to his atonal works or not?Yes. But whether or not you'll actually like his later, more dissonant, avant-garde stuff is a different question. I personally don't listen to any of it for enjoyment.inb4someone attacks you for calling schoenberg atonal (well all know what the anon meant, chill)
>>129829210>is one of the most notable, celebrated, influential, simply important composers of the last 150 years worth getting intoRegardless of whether people like his music or not, it's stupid not to try and be informed about and actually listen to his shit if you're even vaguely interested in this kind of music.Short answer: Yes.
>>129829256He *had* a purely atonal stint before developing the 12-tone technique though (1908 - 1923)
>>129829273Is twelve tone music not atonal?
>>129829259Is it worth listening to for enjoyment or is it something you think can only be appreciated as a historical relic? I find the Rite of Spring very enjoyable, and that was as seminal for modernism as Schönberg. But do you find the same enjoyment in Schönberg or not?
>>129829286Not... not exactly. There's a difference between free atonality and the "replacing of one structural force (tonality) by another (increased thematic oneness)"
>>129829301What does that even mean
>>129829297I enjoy it, that's about all I or anyone else can tell you. The only way you'll ever know whether you enjoy it or not is experiencing it yourself, which is a worthwhile endeavour for the reasons I already mentioned.Short answer: Yes.>do you find the same enjoyment in Schönberg or not?Different works offer me different kinds of enjoyment. Otherwise I'd only listen to one work all the time.
>>129829306If you're really interested you can always look up "12-tone technique", and read up on it. You'll find enough free literature on and about it and in different levels of complexity and depth than you'll have time to read in a year.If you're just looking for an argument, man, I'm about to go to bed, I haven't got the time.
>>129829321I'm not looking for an argument, I genuinely don't know what "oneness" means lol
>>129829297The basic answer is Stravinsky and his Rite of Spring are both quite accessible to fans of classical music at large. Schoenberg, on the other hand, is generally more limited to musicians, academics, and music students, with a bit of people who just happen to click with that kind of music.So yes some people enjoy Schoenberg in the same way, but their accessibility cannot be compared at all.
>>129829326You can replace that word with homogeneity if that works better for you. I was just quoting Rudolph Réti verbatim
>>129829339Homogeneity of pitches? Ah.
>>129829339I guess the problem I have is that when I've tried to listen to his music before it all seems rather bland. There's never a melody or rhythm or harmony that I find particularly compelling. It all kind of blends together into mush. Maybe that's the "oneness" mentioned, but to me it just sounds like nothing. I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, I just don't know if there's something I'm not getting about the music. I like dissonant stuff like Scriabin and late Mahler, and Stravinsky as mentioned before. But the thing that gets me to appreciate their music is that it isn't dissonant the entire way through.
>>129829362More like what 12-tone does as opposed to "free" atonality is replace one type of structure (the thing that makes a piece structured in some manner, sorry for beng redundant) for another, these two being on one hand classic tonality for the increased thematic homogeneity that applied 12-tone produces (since it works with cells and iteration and, well, serial procedures)
>>129829429I would reply with something but I think all I have to say I wrote down in this post >>129829422
>>129829362>>129829422No, the bit of theory I threw in just to distinguish pure atonality from 12-tone is in no way related to your personal experience with the music. It's just a coincidence that worms like oneness and homogeneity can be understood as samey and boring. Really it has nothing to do with the aesthetic experience of the music itself and your experience of it. Like I said here >>129829259 it is always worth getting into the works of a composer who never fails, for better or for worse, to prove his crucial role in the history of music, who has since been surrounded by detractors and imitators, critics and continuers of his theory, and whose works are always a part of the repertoire. Regardless of personal taste (I mean, some people don't like Scriabin, and that sounds insane to me, but it's real and I have to respect it) it is a worthwhile endeavour. And only by undertaking it will you be able to answer what is ultimately the question you want answered the most: Whether you'll like it or not.Go and listen.
>>129829612>wormswords*
>>129829612>It's just a coincidence that words like oneness and homogeneity can be understood as samey and boringWell I have listened to a few pieces of his, and they did seem samey and boring to me. It took a couple of listens for the Rite of Spring to click for me, although that initially sounded random to me rather than boring, so maybe I'll keep listening.Maybe I should try the free atonal stuff?
>>129829637>Maybe I should try the free atonal stuff?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AQx0V2lZs8
>>129829660This isn't bad, but I'm not sure how good I think it is. I'd maybe have to listen again.
>>129827054Helmet Walacha
>>129827072People here will really link 24 hours of content and expect us to listen to it
Wow AI classical music is terrible. I listened to the supposed "AI Beethoven's Tenth" and compared it to a similar work done by an actual composer with his sketches, and the two pieces of music are worlds apart in quality. Obviously neither are a true Beethoven work, but the Barry Cooper piece is so much better than the AI it's unreal. Can't say the same about pop music.https://youtu.be/cKoE1f7evDAhttps://youtu.be/Rvj3OblscqwUnless AI has improved an insane amount since this Beethoven project I think we're pretty damn safe.
>>129830281AI will only keep improving so it's futile to claim it won't get there, we don't know yet.
Arnie Supremehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUpPqfstS_Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R7DOsX9NKk
>>129830387>AI will only keep improvingwill it?
TIMBRE MATTERS!
>>129830440Can you mathematically prove that it can't? No one else did so far, so kudos to you, genius!
>>129830440Even if AI can make songs I don't really get why you would want to listen to it over something human made. AI can destroy humans in chess but no one is sitting down and watching AI play against another AI
I took the Bartok string quartet pill
>>129830281>Wow AI classical music is terribleYeah, no shit. The real question isn't whether AI can imitate style, but whether it can actually do what Beethoven did. If you fed it Haydn and Mozart, could it arrive at something like the 9th, late quartets or the last piano sonatas? Not just something vaguely similar on the surface, but that level of break from predecessors, structural invention and internal logic. Absolufuckinglutely not.
Best recording of Bartok's Romanian Dances? Piano or string is fine but would appreciate both if possible
>>129830387fuck AI and fuck you, you pathetic cubicle dwelling code monkey pajeet faggot. I spit on STEMlets and the satanic futility of their spiteful attempts to make artists obsolete.
>>129830853Spit in my mouth daddy
>>129830853unfathomably based.
>>129830853Bach was STEM, his music is mathematic in nature. It literally works on a Mobius strip.
>>129831138rick and morty tier post.
>>129831151rick and morty is a very well written show
>>129831212To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
>>129825569>Martha ArgerichWild and passionate. What a performance!>Rafal BlechaczIntimate. Highly enjoyable.>Alfred Cortot (1933)I had heard his rendition of No. 4 before, and I expected the extreme romantic rubato to be more prevalent throughout the set than it was. While the interpretation is great as far as I can hear it, the audio quality makes it difficult to fully appreciate. Still, I can see why he would have been so revered by those who heard him live. Maybe not so much a recording you listen to, but a reference you consult when you want to know what the maestro thought about a particular prelude.>Alfred Cortot (1926)The hiss makes this one intolerable.>Alfred Cortot (1942)Also a hissfest.>Alfred Cortot (1957)Sadly not as good as his 1933 recording.
>>129831532The 33 Cortot and Moiseiwitsch are my favorites. I can listen to them anyday.
>>129831620The Moiseiwitsch feels like a boomer recording to me, the one that everyone loved when there weren't that many available but today is merely one of a bunch of great ones and because of the audio quality isn't really on the radar of younger listeners.
Can anyone recommend any other pieces that incorporate organs and carry a similar vibe as the allegro maestoso in vid related?https://youtu.be/TbvDXqXDWiwThe grandeur and power of it all just has me floored right now
What is the best recording of Gotterdammerung, and why is it Solti/Nilsson?
La Monte Young and Terry Riley are great, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>129831891I'm about to listen to that! I will say, I didn't enjoy his Siegfried much, couldn't even finish it.
>>129831891Embarrassing digits.
>>129831816Not as much grandeur buthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RduLr1Cp9LsAlternatively, you could put on a Messiaen organ works set and just have it on in the background all day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icCQu1FCtfQ
>>129831740>The Moiseiwitsch feels like a boomer recording to meHow is saying that any different from normalfags saying classical is just "boomer music"?Not criticising your preferences, just curious.>but one is composer the other is performer!Well, composition too has changed since the baroque/classical/romantic periods, and the normie will point that out and argue you can get different or better music now, so that doesn't hold does it?
>>129831980>How is saying that any different from normalfags saying classical is just "boomer music"?>Not criticising your preferences, just curious....did, did you read their following words, where they expanded on what they meant? That it was probably good for its time but since become outdated due to superior or at least equal performances with superior audio quality?
>>129831891Levine's is probably my current favorite.or for the hipster answer,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOViQ24A_6Y&list=OLAK5uy_meZw0oXd8qoBla4vB74eSLiFuz_nI-dRE&index=2
>>129832000>Beethoven was probably good for its time but now we have Beyonce
>>129832030Not even remotely comparable to their point, and I won't be responding to you further, bad faith interlocutor.
>>129832033>it's not comparable because.... because it upsets me! and I won't argue!k
>>129831980The difference is that the only thing holding the Moiseiwitsch back in my opinion is the recording quality. I think that the interpretation is excellent, but if someone is used to modern recording quality then I don't expect that they would really bother with this recording because there are so many great modern ones available. The only people I would expect to list it as their favorite would be boomers who grew up listening to recordings with mediocre audio quality.
I dont get the Wagner obsession here. Opera sucks
>>129832207>but if someone is used to modern recording quality then I don't expect that they would really bother with this recording because there are so many great modern ones available. But are they like Moiseiwitsch? Is Beethoven like Glass too? The two are worlds apart stylistically, and so are interpretations. So you're evidently wrong, I'm not a boomer and I prefer Moiseiwitsch, despite having heard numerous recordings of the piece.
>>129832279>Opera sucksmy rebuttalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IQ0WJ4CGw&list=OLAK5uy_kbLa9w5F8y6Odwc2sirEnCqtH-zr9OlB0&index=6
>>129832346>>I don't expect most people to prefer this recording>uh but I do prefer this recording, idiot?
>>129832346>But are they like Moiseiwitsch?They're at least as good, with superior audio quality, which adds up to making the Moiseiwitch, under most circumstances for most people, outdated, no more than a historical curiosity. If you can stand the audio quality, if his interpretation and performance is so heads-and-shoulders above any other for you, then good for you. That is not how most people feel about it and other recordings of the work.
On that note, as someone who doesn't play an instrument, how difficult would it be to try and perfectly imitate someone else's performance of a given work? Let's say I wanted to play Chopin's Preludes exactly in the same way as Cortot did in 1933 or as the currently discussed Moiseiwitsch and record it, thereby creating a modern version of their interpretation with the benefits of modern production and sound quality. Is such a thing possible? Or is every single performance of a classical work inimitably unique? Does the nature of musical instruments make it unfeasible to perfectly match the precise timing and dynamics of another performance?
Do you guys mind if I make another Chad Schumann edition OP next thread?
>>129832435Even a performer himself does not play a piece exactly the same way every time, there are always minimal differences. That said, it would probably be possible to get 99% of the way there, at least on a more mechanical instrument like the piano.
Can you rec me some asian classical music
>>129832511I don't know about Asian classical music, but here's some music by Asian composers,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNj94i4RYhkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcIByhmCi1Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UoIWNdXA00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhyp68JazHMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_E2rKxg3NEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU8MFQ45sEMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl3YUGHyEMchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egK2NPNAoAg
>>129832372???>>129832379>They're at least as good, with superior audio quality, which adds up to making the Moiseiwitch, under most circumstances for most people, outdatedThen, logically, the following sentence also holds true>The Beatles is at least as good as Wagner, with superior lyrics and mood (aesthetically more modern). Wagner is just a historical curiosity.>If you can stand the outdated libretto, if his composition and style is so heads-and-shoulders above any for you, then good for you. That is not how most people feel about itNow, before anyone starts sperging out, I'm not saying you're wrong, not at all, just pointing out how the logic works here and how it's all actually a matter of perspective.>>129832435Very difficult, given that their teaching methods didn't pass down to later generations.
>>129832506>That said, it would probably be possible to get 99% of the way there, at least on a more mechanical instrument like the piano.In that case, I'm surprised this idea to update an old performance with severely flawed audio quality by imitating the performance and recording it with modern production hasn't been done.
>>129832563Incredible sophistry on display.
>>129831980boomers don't even listen to classical, they listen to awful garbage like The Beatles
>>129832589How, are you implying Wagner is "objectively" superior to The Beatles? Do you even know what sophistry means, anon?
>>129832567It would take a lot of effort and once it's done people would say "oh but it's just not the same." Also, I think that most performers would feel that they are degrading themselves by turning into the equivalent of an Elvis impersonator.
can anyone rec me some Hawaiian Classical music?
is the Conductor a member of the orchestra or separate?
>>129832646Both
>>129832646>The conductor stands as the supreme sovereign of sonic dominion, the singular and transcendent Artist whose visionary essence alone elevates mere vibration into immortal Art. He is the true musician, the alchemical maestro whose intellect, passion, and unerring will forge symphonic gold from the base elements of sound. The orchestra and its assembled players, for all their technical proficiency and collective breath, exist merely as his exalted instrument, a vast, living Stradivarius of flesh, wood, and brass, subservient to his interpretive genius, responsive only to the subtle flick of his baton, the imperious glance of his eye, and the divine fire of his soul. In his hands, one hundred egos dissolve into a single, celestial voice; without him, they remain but scattered fragments of potential, awaiting the conductor's godlike touch to achieve harmonious apotheosis. He does not merely lead, he incarnates the music, breathing immortal life into the silent page.
>>129832700vapid purple prose
If anyone is bored or interested in this kind of thing, I just came across this classical music magazine from 1941, which includes an article featuring Artur Schnabel titled, "The Qualities a Pianist Must Possess", among other intriguing, entertaining texts.https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Etude/Etude-1941-08.pdf
>>129830281>>129830387>>129830627thank you slopsisters
>>129832700Is this AI slop, anon? Surely you wouldn't dare sully the exalted /classical/ general by posting AI slop, now would you, anon?
>>129831891Halfway through listening to it, and yeah, it's a pretty fantastic recording.
>>129830097yeah, why, can't you? skill issue. also you were literally offered a 80 min long link lmao
>>129832646conductors are a cosmetic item, they serve no purpose in a modern symphony and are there just for show
>>129831891id rather be deaf than ever listen to Solti's take on my beloved Ring again
>>129832646one essence in two persons
>>129832895>Solti took my Ring virginity and never called me back I shall never forgive him
now playingBeethoven: Fidelio, Op. 72, Act I: No. 9, Recit. Abscheulicher! – Aria. Komm, Hoffnung, lass den letzten Sternhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiU7WPo3k9w&list=OLAK5uy_ntNXKS8eSngg7LWdGwn5pKRFF-Kvx-OKQ&index=2Verdi: La forza del destino, Act IV: Pace, pace, mio Dio!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of_L9gttZMc&list=OLAK5uy_ntNXKS8eSngg7LWdGwn5pKRFF-Kvx-OKQ&index=8Wagner: Wesendonck Lieder, WWV 91 (Orch. Mottl): I. Der Engelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpqD-aFdcGI&list=OLAK5uy_ntNXKS8eSngg7LWdGwn5pKRFF-Kvx-OKQ&index=9and more pieceshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ntNXKS8eSngg7LWdGwn5pKRFF-Kvx-OKQ>Few young singers merit the superlatives bestowed on them as "powerhouse" (Guardian) Norwegian soprano Lise Davidsen. The award-winner releases her second studio album - Beethoven Wagner Verdi - with Decca Classics. Recorded in London during the summer and autumn of 2020, Davidsen is accompanied by the London Philharmonic Orchestra and Sir Mark Elder on this new record offering listeners with "one of the greatest vocal talents to have emerged in recent years, if not decades" (Gramophone).
Most of what I believed about Mozart came from the Simpsons. Unironically thought Salieri was Mozarts sister for the longest time.
>>129832978that's cool>>>/tv/
>>129832988I also thought that all the songs he wrote were about fartinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dV3IECIILU
>>129833034hey man great why don't you make a thread about it
>>129833040Already did>>>/tv/219135407
>>129833054Based
>>129833054and stay there
Wagner reigns supreme.
>>129832486Bait or retardation call it.
>>129832978The part with Beethoven was funny. Can't find the clip in english, this will have to dohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOLHsdSqLs8
>>129833103found it first try, goon
>>129833155post it
>>129833174>>>/tv/
>>129833203Talking about classical musicians and humorous depictions about them isn't against the rules anon. Announcing reports is though :^)
>>129833557>Talking about classical musicians and humorous depictions about them isn't against the rules anon. It is, though. No different from just talking about that horrid Amadeus film for 200 posts straight. It's not musical discussion>Announcing reports is though :^)I didn't make a report, I pointed out the reason why I didn't post the dumb link
>>129833580>It is, though.No it isn't. The post isn't being deleted, jannies don't give a fuck as long as it's vaguely music-related.
>>129833639>The post isn't being deleted, jannies don't give a fuckyeah
>>129833646Ok we can move on now.
>>129833580Amadeus is a great film
>>129832279MAYBE the people on the classical music general mostly DON'T think opera sucks, ever think of that?
feels like a Beethoven's Missa Solemnis dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcYLVeAvKMg&list=OLAK5uy_lUkaHqnMzemrI2JGaEkiFlEKPbAa-yOHY&index=1didn't know Ormandy had a recording of it till just now>Sony knew very well that Ormandy was anodyne in music as serious as the Missa Solemnis, but he sold in the zillions, so he record anything he wanted to, up to Bach and down to "Danny Boy." The company waited until 1994 to release this 1967 recording in the UK, but they couldn't escape the lash of the Gramophone, who called Ormandy's interpretation "almost offensive."topkek>Yet at first blush there's much to enjoy here. The sound is better than what Karajan and Klemperer reveived for their classic recordings of the Missa Solemnis in the Sixties. The orchestra and vocal soloists are excellent, and at any given moment Ormandy is doing a good-enough job. He had technical skill in abundance, and even though the Singing Cities Choirs struggle with the most treacherous aspects of Beethoven's impossible choral writing, the conductor holds his forces together well. (If nothing else, one should hear the young Martina Arroyo in a sterling execution of the solo soprano part.)>Considering all that, I'd say this was a top choice among bargain one-disc versions of the Missa Solemnis, as long as you don't expect spiritual loftiness. Scotch that -- as long as you have no spiritual expectations at all.
[The Tannhauser theme plays softly in the distance, and experiencing its first true taste of the sublime, the kitty transforms into a being concerned with its own Being, the Heideggerian Dasein, the summit of spiritual transcendence]https://files.catbox.moe/vj2qvb.mp3https://files.catbox.moe/do5ap3.mp3
Crying to Mache dich, mein Herze, rein again
>>129833717sure
>>129833877Opera is definitely my least liked genre, but there are a few that are always welcome. None by Wagner, though. Those are only welcome once in a long while. Were they (starting with Lohengrin) exactly the same, length-wise even, but purely instrumental, they'd probably be my favourite compositions post-1850. Generally speaking, if I can avoid (non-choral) vocal music, I will.
>normiesonly listen to music with singing>classical music autistsonly listen to music without singing>classical music giga autistsonly listen to music with singing
>>129834068>Heideggerian DaseinHack philosopher, ontologically and epistemologically null concepts, drunken caricature of a platonist, Nietzsche's little bitch
>>129834312thank you sister
>>129834312lol
when you cultured but you also from the hoodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHMInjrxoUA
>>129834394not clicking that
>>129834320I dont care about any of that shit, dude was a midget, thats enough for me to dismiss him
>>129834405fair enough
>>129834312This is a gigantic cope. Autists prefer non-vocal music. Furthermore, instrumental music preference and IQ are in positive correlation. Vocal music is eternal normiecore.
>>129834525Once again the silly ha ha irritates the true autist
>he can't play the first Chopin etude
>>129834557Its not even that hard, arpeggios should be one of the first thing you learn on piano
[the Kitty hears the heartachingly beautiful melodies of Chopin's Nocturnes coming from the open window, so hops the fence to leisurely lay nearby, as it newly discovers the sensation of aesthetic bliss and hopes to savor every moment and note]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuFCxiVHikA&list=OLAK5uy_nsOgwA3t1EyYo_2ApwUSd2qGfVN59xhDw&index=17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vrq9E5GwKE&list=OLAK5uy_nsOgwA3t1EyYo_2ApwUSd2qGfVN59xhDw&index=20
>>129834652thought this was going to be an arrau post and im disappointed
>>129834660Sadly, soon after this the kitty decided to try its hand at becoming a bohemian artist, so ran away in search of a commune of likeminded cats, so I never got the opportunity to ask who's its favorite pianist.aka it genuinely ran away and I haven't seen it since like a month after that picture, sad; I guess it's bound to happen if your kitty has both the ability and desire to wonder into neighbors' backyards, as it will inevitably escape -- I hope it's doing okay :(
>>129834692bro ur cat died keep ur cats indoors
>>129834720It was my neighbor's. I personally would!RIP kitty
>>129834692I had a cat that I didn't see for like 4 months but then it came back.
>>129834751Hopefully that's the case, and they just don't let it outside anymore. I know it ran away because around the time I stopped seeing it, the owner's also posted lost-posters all around the neighborhood.
I haven't listened to Mahler 9 in a quite a while, but for some unknown reason the main theme of the 1st movement is stuck in my head and I just keep humming it
How do I develop perfect pitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYi7odIOUjY
>>129834643>Its not even that hard >Virtuoso pianist Vladimir Horowitz, who refused to perform this étude in public, said, "For me, the most difficult one of all (the études) is the C Major, the first one, Op. 10, No. 1."[5]Kwab.
>>129835115by watching usanistani """comedy"""?
kwab
>>129835155>>129835194huh
>>129835210kwab
Going to bake a Chad Schumann thread boys.
>>129835210Its "kek, what a bitch"
>>129835226well hurry the fuck up, I haven't got all evening
>>129835226I was baking a Chopin x Liszt thread but I'll save that for the pride month.
>>129835240that's even cringier
>>129835210KWAB
>>129834239thanks for the upvote
>>129835309so you keep saying
Alright baking
>>129835356>>129835356>>129835356New bread
