What is the intent behind statements like "I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a person who gets around by bike"?At a surface level it is obviously meant to (proverbially) throw other cyclists under the bus, but to what end? Would it somehow appease the anti-bike people if the person "blocking traffic" didn't agree to be referred to by the word "cyclist"?
cy·clist/ˈsīkləst/nounnoun: cyclist; plural noun: cyclists a person who rides a bicycle.So they are either not riding a bicycle, or they are lying.Your choice.
it's not meant to sway a cager, they will never care about anyone but themselves. so any cyclist who thinks that is retarded, I think it's to seperate the "cycling culture" of the US from people using bikes due to convenience in places like the netherlands, placing importance on infrastructure instead of "well I'M a good biker and I bike on dangerous roads on huge endurance runs so I don't think anything has to change".
>>2000001In the USA, cycling was mainly a hobby and sport, not a considered form of transportation due to urban sprawl. The stereotype of a cyclist is different from a commuter. Even though times have changed, there's still many who were raised to believe that cycling is separate from commuting and so you hear a conversation like this play out>"you cycled to work today? I didn't know you were into cycling">"oh no, I'm not a '"'"'"'"'"cyclist'"""'"""" I just commute by bike">>2000008piggybagging off this, there's a similar idea in the Netherlands except the words are flipped. A fietster is more like a commuter even though it translates to cyclist but that's because over there, cycling is the norm. They also have a word, wielrenner, which is more like the behaivior and attire of "'''""""cyclist''"""""
>>2000001>What is the intent behind statements like "I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a person who gets around by bike"?Could be a multitude of different reasons.>doesn't want to be associated with yimbys or similar groups>doesn't want to be associated with dentist group-rides>wants to draw attention to their practical nature of getting around, not just seeing bikes as a hobby
its an adolescence hang up immature people cling toobeing a tryhard is considered lame also its a sort of passive aggressive way of implying people who cycle for pleasure aren't 'real cyclists' even though they probably cycle more
>>2000010nice answer. but lemme check something real wuick>>2000000
>>2000001no one wants to be thought of as a lycra-clad retard. what's hard to understand?
I don’t have a car and use my bike as my only form of transportation besides the subway, riding every weekday and regularly on weekends as well. I don’t call myself a cyclist because I don’t really do any of the traditional things I think of when I think of a cyclist. I don’t race or do leisure rides with other people or with a bike group, I’m always riding alone. I don’t have any special attire like the spandex suit, clip on shoes, etc., I just wear regular sneakers, shorts, t shirt, usually have a backpack too. I don’t do major repairs or upgrades on my bike and don’t have a lot of bicycle knowledge. I don’t have multiple bikes for different purposes, just one road bike that’s around 20 years old at this point.So basically I just consider “cyclists” to be people who take it more seriously than I do. Even though I ride around 50 miles a week (currently at 1100 for the year), I definitely wouldn’t say I take it seriously.
>>2000037Very nice. However on such a slow board as /n/ your digits are less of Paul Allen digits and more of David van Patten digits.
I went horizontal last year riding over some train tracks in wet weather and fucked up myself and my bike. Today it happened again at the same spot, even though I intentionally slowed down to make sure it would not happen again. But, because I was going slower I didn't hurt myself or damage my bike as bad as before. My wheels were perpendicular to the tracks both times it happened so I am not too sure why it keeps happening?
>>2000073>I am not too sure why it keeps happening?Maybe because you rode over wet metal, a surface know for its excellent grip?
>>2000001It's a form of modesty which is common in the English language>I'm not a gardener, i'm just growing a few herbs>I'm not really a cook, but i hope this tastes good >I'm not a weaver, but i made this >cy·clist>a person who rides a bicycle.Except practically everyone in the world has ridden a bicycle before, so technically that would make practically everyone a cyclist and render the word meaningless. There's a judgement that has to be placed on how regularly or how seriously someone does X to have the identity of Y. I think we're probably just complaining about the fantasy subset of unracer who takes not being serious incredibly seriously, those people are cyclists, and i think you'd be hard pressed to actually find one who doesn't identify as such.
>>2000098It's a troll thread racer vs unracer. just change the definition to cyclist vs commuter.>>2000073next time walk it. Or find a better place to cross.
>>2000001They use "cyclist" as an equivalent to "hiker".So, a person who commutes by walking, even if walks a lot, doesnt identify as a "hiker". In the same way, someone who uses a bike to go places, might not identify as a "cyclist".Easy as that.
>>2000050This is all there is to it.
>>2000001In my midwest suburb cyclist = yuppieTheyre trying to say theyre ride a bike to the park maybe lets go get a shaved ice type of cyclist.Im biased. Compared to other high price entry sports like golf or skiing cyclists are cooler. Tennis people are chill but their sport is dying.
>>2000001>What is the intent behind statements like "I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a person who gets around by bike"? You tell me. You're the one who said it. Am I supposed to be upset that someone said something stupid?
I'm a cycologist.
>>2000288
So we can all agree then: urbanists are stupid
Also batavophiles
>>2000295I'm a cyclopath
>>2000298>>2000299>>2000300>>2000301>I tried all kinds of drugs!>I'm not a drug user!>I was forced to try them!
>>2000301
>>2000313>literally anything>you: RENT FREE REEEEEEEtextbook projection
>>2000314
probably because drivers are fucking retarded and think that a $1500 bike is a status symbol because they cannot possibly imagine anyone using a bike as transportation and think you are a rich person who drives everywhere except when you get on your bike to specifically annoy that driver by making them 30 seconds late. so people have to defend themselves in conversation by saying they aren't "those" cyclists as otherwise someone will go off on a tangent about how they are the scum of the earth.
>>2000001https://youtu.be/5EE8m8mmq1k?
>>2000350$1500 bike is a status symbolThey're not wrong.>t. 20 miles a day on a $130 Walmart bike for 2 years nowIf your bike costs more than $300, you're a fag, sorry.
>>2000613>$1500 bike is a status symboland a 60k pickup truck is not?
>>2000629A $60K pickup truck is also a status symbol.
>>2000298>climbed outAnd then what?
a cyclist cycles to cycle
>>2000607Is cycling a community anon? Is driving a community? Is walking a community?
>>2000607>post has absolutely nothing to do with politics>person comes in with a comment to create division in groups while complaining that one side always creates division in everythingMouth breathing fucking retard
>i'm not a cyclist i'm a velociraptor who velocipedes some even call us volominati
>>2000891You're a bender. You fucking bender.
>>2000001I think this could be paraphrased as 'I don't cycle unless I want ro go places'. It's still retarded to say.
>>2000010>A fietster is more like a commuter even though it translates to cyclist but that's because over there, cycling is the norm.The majority of the Netherlands commute by car.
>>200132729% is massive and more than any other country. he never said "majority". car share is high in netherlands because their transit is honestly underdeveloped and not built for super commuting
>>2001327>The majority of the Netherlands commute by car.Blame the weather there.
>>2001331>29% is more than any other countrySo even in the most bike friendly place on earth, the people actively choose not to bike. Because biking frankly sucks.>he never said "majority".He said "the norm" which implies it's the most normal and common form of transportation ie. The majority. It is not.
>>2001341they dont bike because the country is still largely not that urbanized and they have insufficient long range transit, but people who can use bikes do and also, that is "commuters", not people who use bikes for other daily tasks which is absolutely higher. noone cares that you are a fat fuck.
>>2001342>facts and reality hurt my feelingsLol.>that is "commuters", not people who use bikes for other daily tasks which is absolutely higherI doubt it's significantly different. If you needed to grocery shop, you'd just stop on your drive home etc.
>>2000299Yeah but what kind of pedestrian are you? You don't know?
>>2001341"The norm" does not translate to "the majority" but rather what is "normal" in society's perception.
>>2001487>"The norm" does not translate to "the majority"Yes it does.
>>2000001>Everything that can be labeled can be hated(rule of the internet #18, btw)The word "cyclist" is dehumanizing in a sense. Saying "person who gets around by bike" puts the emphasis on the human being instead of the mode of transportation. It's pretty clever, actually.
>>2000001>What is the intent behind statements like "I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a person who gets around by bike"?It is an attempt to disassociate from a crappy subculture nobody likes that made bicycle its virtue signal.
>>2000001I hate the term gamer even though I play too many video games. What the fuck do I need a label for?And a term like "gamer/cyclist" means different things depending on your location. A gamer in Japan means you play phone games while you commute on the train. A gamer in the USA means you get sweaty and $$$ on a custom PC.Likewise, a cyclist in europe is an empty statement. Everyone cycles and they're made to be comfortable from point A to B.I resent American cycling because we have such a consumerist culture that cycling is all about performance at the expense of comfort. People who cycle vs "cyclists" is huge. I just want a cheap scrape metal on wheels that can take me around. Cyclists are obnoxious and spend as much as a small car on a bike and on faggy clothing. Basically, I resent American Cycling culture. I wish I was in Europe.
>>2000308correct, we call them "people who like to party"
>>2002894Road bikes are comfortable, hence why middle aged men ride 100 miles on a weekend like it’s nothing. It’s casual bicyclist that rides 10 miles at walking pace and complains it’s so long and their body hurts. No I will not ride an omafiets at 10mph and pretend that it’s progress. Dutch cycling culture is unironically trash and can only exist in the lowlands cause their bikes are 30lbs or more. I do appreciate their infrastructure innovations though.
>>2000037>>1999999
I'm a breather, a pisser, a shitnfarder
>>2001327It's joever for batavophiles.
>>2000001Luv bike chicks
>>2000098Most Americans drive cars so the word motorist is meaningless. I am very smart.
>>2000001"I'm a gamer""i play games""I'm a driver""i drive a car"etcone is a simple statement and other a shallow label people put on themselves to suplement lack of personality.you may as well say youre a computerist and a typist and a monitor looker. and make it a big deal.damn I'm such a drinker, let's discuss most optimal water brands and bottle shapes.
>>2003519We're not talking about the dictionary definition though.And no American will call themselves a 'Motorist'
When you're walking you're a pedestrian.When you're cycling you're a cyclist.When you're driving a motor vehicle you're a motorist.
>>2004205yeah, I'm a pilot
Actually it is often used in reverse. People will say, "that's not a cyclist its a guy on a bike" to separate the brain dead tools that blow stop signs, ride on sidewalks, ride against traffic, etc from people that can coexist peacefully with traffic. Many people that ride bikes really aren't cyclists, they are pedestrians with wheels.The entire distinction is pointless anyway. Non-riders (and self hating cyclists who, "drive their bike to the park and only ride on the paths") will always lump anyone on a bike together. The transgressions of everyone from children, teens, the homeless, clueless casuals, hooligans, lycratards will be attributed to cyclists as a whole.
>$5000 bike>$5000 bike made of obsolete parts
>>2000001To separate themselves from those Critical Mass lycratards.
>>2006595critical mass is really about cycling for fun, utility, and commuting. not really for the lycracucks.
>>2006595nobody who does critical mass can afford bibs
i cook, i'm not a cooki take photographs, i'm not a photographeri'm a handy man, i'm not a handymanit's not that deep brah
>>2011905When you're cooking, you are the cook.When you're photographing, you are the photographer.
>>2000001Yuppies are scum.
>>2000252Nobody wants solutions anymore
>>2000252So I'm not actually a pedestrian if I don't "identify as a pedestrian" even if I walk to work?
>>2000025it's a way to distance themselves from fags in neon spandex
>>2011916okay? i'm still not a cook or a photographer
>>2012084You are also a walker... but you might start to denie that fact if people start to associate 'walkers' with thishttps://youtu.be/EF29OXeFpEc
>>2000001They are filthy casuals who are not chad enough to own up to the title.
>>2012226what's with his arms though, he needs to stop doing arm day
>>2012200No I don't think I would. I find respectability politics to be extremely cringe. If someone's going to hate me for doing something that benefits me, the natural reaction should not be to stop doing that and apologize. Grow a pair.
>>2012226>>>/fit/
>>2012263that's a triathlon bike. those arms are for the swimming part.
>>2012226>>2012263it's shopped>>2012658it's a TT bike. triathlons are for faggots.
>>2000073If you were going perfectly straight you won’t slip even on black ice>Skill issue>t.canadian
>>2000613Get a proper $600 bicycle >t.correct opinion
>>2000073i'm sorry but that's the gay test and you failed twice.
>>2000001>20000001>nice tryIts to distance themselves away from MAMIL fucking losers who stencil ads and over-expensive shit all over themselvesSomeone who cycles but isn't a cyclist hasn't taken cycling as part of their identity. They're saying: yes, you caught me, I ride a bike but I'm not one of THOSE bike riders
>>2000001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EE8m8mmq1kWatch this. It's extremely accurate and he talks about the difference between a commuter and a cyclist
>>2013058How old are you? Your strawman of roadies is about 30 years out of date, people now wear outdated ads for companies that no longer exist because it's a retro-chic tip of the ole chapeau to the greats who are no longer with us
>>2013085sup burgerbert
>>2013088sup. i still had the link copied when i saw this thread so the timing was perfectgo pogi!
>>2013092What did he mean by this
>>2001345Here is some context from a Dutchfag, a large amount of Dutch people live in relatively small towns and commute into the Randstad (Most urbanised area of the country) for work. It is not realistic to bike from outside of the Randstad into it. However, if you actually live in the Randstad, and work in the city you live in most people then choose to bike. Getting around the place you live though? It's cycling all the way. I almost never leave the house without my bicycle whether it's going to friends, to the store, or just to the nearest city. TLDR; Commuting by bike largely isn't possible for most of the population not living and working in the city they live in. Also, public transport is more expensive compared to automobiles.
>>2012264>If someone's going to hate meNo, they're just going to laugh at you.
>>2015188He's saying the mouse stole his food that's why he looks like auschwitz
>>2015188/cyc/ meme about hematocrit blood dopingby grug who can attack and destroy races
>>2012659>TT>Triathlonlearn the difference. Tri-bikes are not legal for UCI TT.I kust be a superfag then since I do both.
>>2013058schizo detected, this person called you out >>2019813
>>2013087>>2019814>out of date and wrongI see these sorts of ubercyclist retards all the time in my area. They are covered in extremely tight smooth clothes and ride very expensive bikes. Think they're competing in the tour de france or some stupid shit. Like all the obsessive shit they do is gonna eek out an additional 0.2% more performance or somethingBlessed be you anons who don't have them where you live
>>2019824I'm sorry you're poor, but you're complaining about at least two separate issuesThe word is "eke" btw
>>2019825Retard detected
>>2018481they look the same to me
>>2021840
>>2000001I don't have a problem with this as I used to tell people I wasn't a motorcyclist, I just used a motorcycle to commute on. It has nothing to do with a sideways attack or a denigration of anyone.
>>2000001It's about internalized vs external identitythe same thing happens with gender >i'm not a man i just have a penis
>>2000001>"I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a person who gets around by bike"?It means I'm not a psychotic roadie and do but want to be associated with them. I know more about bikes than my father in law who has completed dozens of iron Man races and rides 400 miles a week his entire life. I ride steel bikes at a moderate speed for transportation and pleasure.I could not be more different from a roadie aka "cyclist"
>>2024336why does the term cyclist bring up images of a pissed off road rider?The term cycling is . "the act or sport of riding or traveling by bicycle, motorcycle, etc"Thus a cyclist is in "the act" or "sport" of riding a bicycle, so when you get on a bicycle you are a cyclist.I still haven't met an uber cyclist roadie fred. Maybe I need to go to more posh bike shops and races.>>2024295Yup, I am confused.A motorcyclist is defined as "a person who rides a motorcycle"So you can't really commute on one and not be a motorcyclist.You could be a commuter focused motorcyclist. Or an a-b motorcyclist.
>>2024337A cyclist and a biker, are both hobbyists. If you don't partake in the hobby you can still use the equipment. You can ride a train without being an anorak. >I'm not a cyclist (hobbyist), I'm a cyclist (use a bicycle)
>>2024337>why does the term cyclist bring up images of a pissed off road rider?Because when people think "cyclists," they're thinking about the guys who have cult-like attitudes, behaviors, and activist positions.
>>2024366>cult-like attitudes, behaviors, and activist positions.You should probably take a break from the internet, especially sites like this
>>2024367Transportation activists repeatedly say:>Cars are awful>Americans only like cars because they're brainwashed fatasses>Everyone should bike>City transportation should be redesigned around biking>All long distance transportation needs should be met by trains>All forms of commuting and housing that do not fit this model are badIn person:>Cyclists have zero awareness of their surroundings and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them>This affects none of their beliefs
>>2024368See >>2024367
>>2024369>t. has no rebuttal
>>2024372I'm not trying to debate you. Just some general life advice when "everyone" is trying to take away your car
>>2024373>everyone
>>2024375https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ywuv8lJMs
>>2024368not him but 'transportation activists' and 'cyclists' are two very distinct groups, and most serious cyclists are pro-car on some level. Most athletes will drive to ride their bike, roadies, mtbers and every other niche. And most cyclists who like wrenching, who appreciate bicycles as machines, will also be car nerds for the same reasons. If you like a Vitus Peugeot, you will probably also like a Peugeot 106 rallye. Loving cars is not mutually exclusive with hating cars. Most normies who drive everywhere and want to preserve the status quo don't actually like cars, they view them as expensive appliances, which they resent, and hate being in. They just lack the imagination to see any alternative.
>>2024368and most urbanists, most transportation activists, don't even like bicycles. Most of them ride soulless e-bikes, aren't very strong, and can't wrench.
>>2024408I would go so far as to say urbanists hate bicycles. they also hate people, particularly those who live in cities, but that's another discussion. you know what actually I take it back. it's just different facets of the same issue. urbanism is driven by hate and a need to control people. it's pretty much the same as hard core christian fundamentalism but with Ctrl-H on some of the words.
>>2024415The biggest tragedy of the anti-religion movement is that they blamed the vehicle (religion) for the problem, rather than the source (human nature and the innate desire to hate and control others). Now it's still there, but spread out all over the place.
>>2024431would you say that inspiring people is a form of control?
>>2024464It's a form of influence. It's a suggestion, but one people are inclined to follow.
"i pay someone else to fix my bike and i dont care about the new bike parts you just bought"
