Any of you guys live in New York and ride the train? What was your experience?
Nuuyawka here. Waddya wanna know.
>>2021188Just asking what your experience taking the train is like? What neighborhood do you live in?
>>2021182They made the A trains a lot nicer, but going on the A is terrible. Dont like using it at all. Still a reliable service but don't use it outside of Manhattan
>>2021197What neighborhood do you live in?
>>2021200Far away from the A.
>>2021202OK. How is your experience in NY in general not just on the train, like in manhattan or whereever you go?
>>2021189I've lived in brooklyn and manhattan. Sometimes near a good train line, sometimes near more than one, sometimes not so much.The deal is, the train is great if you fit a certain profile, for example if you are a tourist, or a midtown office worker working 9 to 5 and you have no desire to go anywhere other than between your home that is on a subway line, and work in the designated "work neighborhood". In some other cases the train can still be pretty decent as long as you have a fair amount of redundancy on both ends of the trip. That means if your primary origin/destination is in one of these areas you're in great shape and you'll love the subway-Brooklyn north of Union Street-Manhattan south of Central Park-Long Island City and south AstoriaOnce either of your end points is not in one of those places, you'll start to like the subway less and less. Most of the time, when you hear someone screeching about how wonderful the mass transit is here, they're assuming you've got at least one endpoint on the list above. Most likely two. If your trips don't fit those criteria, then your opinions about the system are clearly wrong and you are dumb, cubeless educated stupid, your ignorance is demonic, and you are a nimby boomer cagetroll who doesn't know what's in your own interests.
>>2021204Im in new york too, what neighborhoods are dangerous and should be avoided?
>>2021205I would avoid Hudson Yards, the High Line, and certain parts of Soho because they're overrun with annoying people. The L train corridor has gotten pretty obnoxious too.
>>2021206L train is fast but it gets worse the deeper into brooklyn you go. Shame that the system has one of the more reliable services despite going into the ghetto
>>2021206>>2021207What about neighborhoods like east ny or brownsvillle?
>>2021210Yes, poor brown and black people are there. Do you have some reason to go there? Poverty porn? There's more interesting places on the east coast for that.
>>2021213What about the neighborhood Sunset Park?
>>2021215What about it? It's a neighborhood. What's your definition of danger? Ordering a cemita and getting a torta instead? Yeah that's been known to happen.
>>2021216Just asking your opinion of the neighborhood. Also what neighborhoods are really nice to live in?
>>2021182OP is retarded.you keep asking about neighborhoods that I only know from 90s rap songs and the other guy just keeps trolling you
>>2021218It is possible to have a good quality of life in just about any neighborhood, it's a question of what do you really want, and do you have the means to get it. If you're looking for a good neighborhood to buy a residential property with an eye to its long term future value, sunset park isn't a bad choice. If you're looking for a place to flip or be a slum lord, there's probably better options out there.
>>2021224Do hispanic people live in sunset park? What neighborhoods in the bronx are a good place to live in?
>>2021229What kind of trolling is this?
>>2021204Yep pretty much this. If your trip involves Manhattan it can be pretty good, but that's largely because you can bail out and walk over to another line if shit hits the fan with the one you're one (which WILL happen with some frequency if you're commuting.) If you're in an outlying neighborhood with one local line to choose from you will begin cursing the MTA, especially if you want to go literally anywhere on the weekend
>>2021264All op's questions are extremely vague and he has a "random" fixation on poor neighborhoods and danger, this is a /pol/ tourist looking for a certain kind of discussion
>>2021182I used to ride the A train home from Mott Ave at like 12 - 1 am to get home from work. It was pretty cozy because the cars are usually empty during these hours. The only hassle was finding a car that didn't have a bum in it.
>>2021265it's this person>>2021239>>2021280>>2021110
>>2021182i love the r46
MTA > NJTransit/PATH
Hey I do!here's a webm I personally got to record of a guy doping up on the F line at 8 in the morning. I think the public transit is a great resource and I mostly don't need to drive aside from grocery runs, I've even taken it sometimes at like 2am and lived even though the system resembled more of a mobile asylum than a metro. It probably redpilled me on public transit > cars, but all the same its such a nightmare of nutjobs at times that I fully understand why some people refuse to take it at all.It's really annoying how everytime you go into the city 3 different migrants will ask you to buy their candy now though, alongside all the other circus acts. There's no reason the system has to be so lax about the kind of jokers that use it, so I'd appreciate it if all the hobos who smell like shit or the drugees got thrown out, but it's New York so they won't.
>>2021569The reason you hear people calling for what sound like "bleeding heart librul" approaches like social workers and drum circles is that people who know the city know what the alternative is. Most of us would rather see a junkie than get shot by the clueless, low IQ, homicidal, sociopathic pigs.Just the other day a pack of pigs decided to go after a fare evader, and mag dumped on the platform, 4 commuters plus one of their own got taken out in addition to the fare jumper. The best way to make any situation 100x worse in this city is to involve the police.
>>2021580If only they hadn't purged the NYPD 3-4 years ago of anyone who's not a lefty bootlicker...
>>2021628>2012 was 3-4 years ago
>>2021580>>2021628Meanwhile:https://nypost.com/2024/10/08/us-news/mta-operator-stabbed-in-brooklyn-subway-by-transit-recidivist/Just a reminder to New Yorkers, Europe and Asia do a better job at handling the human refuse that uses the subways as their permanent home.
>>2021632The NYPD is unironically the cause of most of the major problems in NYC
>>2021634Absolutely delusional. Go outside and get a job. NYPD is the city's societal garbagemen. I still remember taking the E Train late night from work and getting on the wrong car...almost always it was this obese 400lb+ homeless guy who stunk bad enough to clear out the car. NYPD never smelled like summer rotting garbage and rancid asshole at the same time
>>2021639Thank you for your service officer
>>2021643>>2021580Ok, how do you propose the problem is dealt with then? Because the "just let junkies terrorize paying passengers" strategy doesn't work, not if you want to sell people who aren't transit enthusiasts on riding or funding it.
>>2021646well, gee, couldn't they just arrest the fare evaders instead of shooting them? nobody wants a junkie during their trip, but guess what? passengers don't want to witness a fucking murder, either, numb nuts.not sure how to solve the "multiple counts of federal corruption" though
>>2021646Realistically? There is no solution.If I had dictatorial powers? Disband and RICO charges against the SBA/PBA leadership, pass anti-gang legislation and apply it to anyone who tries to form a police union. Make every current officer pass an IQ test, a fitness test, and an ethics check. The ones who pass get to be retrained. The ones who don't get fired and new ones get hired.Get back to me when you have a better solution that doesn't involve spraying bullets at the entire train as soon as one person on the train commits a misdemeanor.
>>2021652Junkies tend to be violent as well, are you seriously telling me you trust a methhead with a knife more than a police officer? Because if so, you are fucking delulu>>2021653There is a solution, it's called enforcing the law and keeping the mentally ill junkies in prisons and mental institutions where they belong. Leftist shitbags like you ruined that, and now you have the gall to say "oh there's just no solution". Fuck off
>>2021653So basically let junkies terrorize the city like Gotham City without Batman until the country resembles Caracas or Rio. Great solution. Again, get a job before posting on this website. They're not victims of society or circumstance, they're animals. Btw, waving a knife at a cop inside a subway car isn't a misdemeanor, it's a violent felony literally anywhere in the world and gets you killed also literally anywhere in the world (even UK they'd deploy armed cops with actual firearms against you).
>>2021661>>2021662You seem confused. If you're volunteering to get shot so that a junkie can be taken off the street, I'm 100% ok with that. But I'm not volunteering, and neither is anyone else in the city (where you have never set foot, obviously)
>>2021686Yeah I'm not for protecting the human rights of junkies who are more likely to shove you in front of a train or stab you. We literally have a train conductor that got stabbed multiple times for asking one of them to leave at the last stop. Are we prioritizing that lives of people comfortable stabbing train operators now?You do know the guy that got shot was waving a knife inside of an enclosed subway car at a cop right? He would get shot anywhere in the world doing that because you can close distance incredibly fast below 50 ft.
>visiting NYC during a blizzard because I'm a genius>trains are delayed>waiting 5 minutes>a local gets fed up and leaves in an angry rant>train gets there 3 minutes later>mfw I've regularly waited 40 minutes or longer for transit>realize I'm the battered housewife of transit systems users>still won't move to NYC because the rent makes me cry and there are rats everywhereNever forget that you miserable fuckers have it the best in the whole damned country.
>>2021661>prisons and mental institutions where they belongI agree, but you said the police should shoot them. that's a completely different thing
>>2021687So that's a yes, then. Thank you for volunteering to take a bullet for NYC. Oh sorry it's the NYPD so thank you for volunteering to take 27 bullets for NYC (also 3 cops were shot by each other in the process but you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs)
>>2021692Not just shoot them but shoot a bunch of bystanders too. The mind of the "law and order" conservative. Shoot first, ask questions never.
>>2021693Still less likely than having this happen to you
>>2021569Based
>>2021692>>2021693>>2021694Well if you're happy to get stabbed by a junkie while your city crumbles around you, good for you, but the more sane people are getting tired of it, which is why cities run in the way you seem to want are hemorrhaging people and money. The solution for incompetent policing and corruption is more funding for training and public oversight, not "let the junkies be the law instead".
>>2021778So basically you agree with all of my points, but you wanted to be condescending about it. Good talk.
>>2021182I’ve lived here since the 1979. Basically everything you see online is accurate. It’s like an open air mental asylum. Every time you go into the subway it’s a roll of the dice. It’s smelly it’s dangerous and dysfunctional. There have been improvements over my lifetime though, when I was a kid the cars were totally covered in graffiti and trash everywhere and there were more beggars in the past and I don’t remember there being air conditioning and the lights went out all the time and people got robbed more often but it’s still not that different today, just marginally better. Some areas and times are pretty efficient but it’s always a gamble. In any case, I’ve always had a strong suspicion that the MTA is skimming money somehow. It makes no sense if you think about it, they have almost no workers at any stations and just a few conductors. They at least had workers at every station, usually two or more, when I was a kid they would give you a token for the ride, a coin with a little hole in it. Today it’s like a ghost town in many stations. They rarely clean, it’s disgusting. Yet they must make ten/hundreds of millions per day. Where does the money go? Who knows. Also I see some people talking about safe lines, there are no safe trains only relatively safer times riding through specific neighborhoods on trains. 6 in Harlem is very different than midtown for example. Same sort of thing with every other train. Some generalizations though, L train has breakdancing blacks SJW libtards and faggots, g train is the retard train, c train and j train is a wild card. Just look at a crime map online. avoid any line running through those areas.
>>2021630He’s talking about the Floyd race riots.
>>2021580I’m not pro-police but what exactly does this article prove? That the police aren’t perfect and that nobody will ever get injured in an extremely dangerous situation? They said the injuries were mostly ricochet and strays.
>>2021643I can tell you either A) aren’t originally from NYC B) are a woman or C) are gay. If you see an article like this and are from NYC you know to a 110% certainty that what put him on notice was the dude evading the fare, the actual reason for what happened was because he must have acted like a massive fucking retard. I don’t even have to read the details buddy, it’s like gravity. the fake Hollywood narrative that cops are out to get innocent (black?) men for NOooo goOd rEaSoN AT ALL is laughable and beyond ridiculous, it’s so astoundingly stupid that you either live in a bubble and therefore not from NYC or are so weak minded that you know it but feel the need to lie to yourself and others about it to uphold your brainwashed narrative, in which case you are gay or a woman.
>>2022841You'd be surprised at the insufferable hipsters and yuppies that were born and bred here. You know the adage "if you can make it here you can make it anywhere?" The reality is the opposite is true. There's people that can't make it outside of NYC and would go insane or poor and homeless anywhere else. Or just die.
>>2021182Don't live there- live in PA- but I did take the F train when I was visiting my grandma in Brooklyn last December. Was actually surprised with both how clean the cars were and how basically nobody talked or played music, despite what the fearmongering stories would have you believe. Very fast too. Basically less than 15 minutes from Midtown to Bergen St.There was also what I'm gonna guess was some South American immigrants- a mother and child- silently walking through the cars hocking candy bars and water for like $1 a pop. They weren't bothering anybody so I guess it's fine.The worst part was actually the stations, jesus christ, they looked like they went through fucking nuclear war. Rust stalactites and dirty cracked tiles and god knows what soot is covering half the beams there.Functionally a good service, but those fucking stations and underground walkways need to be rebuilt from scratch. Actually embarrassing that's how metro stations look like in the richest city in this hemisphere.
>>2021182Don't live in NY but I'm close enough to visit, usually for concerts. One time the doors closed on me as I was getting on, that shit hurted. I think that was also the time there was a pool of piss on one of the seats, the guy who made it needs to drink more water.
>>2022841I genuinely think that guy is just trolling; /n/ has seen a uptick in obtuse jackasses belaboring the most obscure and irrelevant point(s). Another user suggested it might be AI chatbots to drive engagement on the slowest board and Im almost inclined to believe them.
>>2022980At the end of the day, a biological NPC and an AI chatbot are essentially indistinguishable on the internet
>>2023030>blaming cops for something the CRIMINALS did to avoid consequences for their CRIMEAll your posts have the typical leftist "fuck cops because they took my weed once" energy.
>>2023046By definition everyone criminals kill is innocent, and every leftist who defends said criminals is guilty and should also be shot.
>>2022891>he worst part was actually the stations, jesus christ, they looked like they went through fucking nuclear war. Rust stalactites and dirty cracked tiles and god knows what soot is covering half the beams there.most stations haven't even been repaired in ages, especially on the F line.
>>2025525Would be a good simple job for some of the migrants or poorer citizens... Tile lasts a damn long time and it isn't that hard to install or fix, just a lot of labor.
>>2025556mta unions would throw a shit fit and theyd have to get paid prevailing wage as per any state funded job ($50+ a hour)
>>2025559Of course so, but it would be perfect apprentice work and paying prevailing wage for this type of stuff is just.... unsustainable so it will rot.Just seems like you could kill 2 birds with one stone.Or bundle up whatever you are paying these families for housing/being migrants and just pay them in it instead via this. That could cover some of the wages.Oh well. I don't use trains stations either way.
>>2021189Used to live in Manhattan. Subway has had its ups and downs, but on balance it's better than it was 8 years ago. New trains are kinda ass because the seats are super uncomfy and you will probably have to stand.Pretty efficient way to travel. Bus is underrated, especially the SBS. Usually more comfortable to sit, can scroll on your phone (no service in tunnels), and not much slower. Express bus service (coaches) are far superior to the subway unless it's peak rush hour traffic.>>2021215Lots of jews, very wealthy. Safe area. Usually pretty quiet.
