Anonymous Trump suddenly changes positio(...) 12/20/24(Fri)16:51:50 No. 1369791 https://www.ft.com/content/35f490c5-3abb-4ac9-8fa3-65e804dd158f https://archive.md/qe2PJ Donald Trump’s team has told European officials that the incoming US president will demand Nato member states increase defence spending to 5 per cent of GDP, but plans to continue supplying military aid to Ukraine. The US president-elect’s closest foreign policy aides shared his intentions in discussions with senior European officials this month, according to people familiar with the talks, as he firms up his policies towards Europe and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. During his White House campaign, Trump vowed to cut off aid to Ukraine, force Kyiv into immediate peace talks, and leave Nato allies undefended if they failed to spend enough on defence — spooking European capitals. But in a boost for allies deeply concerned over their ability to support and protect Ukraine without Washington’s backing, Trump now intends to maintain US military supplies to Kyiv after his inauguration, according to three other people briefed on the discussions with western officials. At the same time Trump is to demand Nato more than double its 2 per cent spending target — which only 23 of the alliance’s 32 members currently meet — to 5 per cent, two people briefed on the conversations said. One person said they understood that Trump would settle for 3.5 per cent, and that he was planning to explicitly link higher defence spending and the offer of more favourable trading terms with the US. “It’s clear that we are talking about 3 per cent or more for [Nato’s June summit in] The Hague summit,” said another European official briefed on Trump’s thinking. Nato allies are already in discussions about increasing the target to 3 per cent at that meeting of leaders in June, but many capitals are concerned about the difficult fiscal decisions that would be required to do so. >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)16:52:09 No. 1369792 According to the White House’s office of management and budget, the US will spend about 3.1 per cent of GDP on defence in 2024. During the last year of Trump’s first presidency in 2020, Pentagon spending hit 3.4 per cent. Key European Nato allies — including France, Germany, the UK, Italy and Poland — met Nato secretary-general Mark Rutte and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Brussels on Wednesday night to discuss how the continent would adapt defence policies in response to Trump’s return. German chancellor Olaf Scholz separately had a telephone call with Trump on Thursday during a summit of EU leaders. Scholz later told reporters that he was “quite confident that the US and Europe will continue their support to Ukraine”. Senior British security officials travelled to Washington earlier this month to assess the president-elect’s plans. While Trump still believes Ukraine should never be given membership of Nato, and wants an immediate end to the conflict, the president-elect believed that supplying weapons to Kyiv after a ceasefire would ensure a “peace through strength” outcome, they added. After 24 hours of meetings with Nato and EU leaders in Brussels this week, Zelenskyy said on Thursday that European pledges to defend Ukraine would “not be sufficient” without US involvement. >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)17:05:22 No. 1369795 >>1369791 They must have briefed him on the extraterrestrial alien bodies they found in Crimea.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)17:15:28 No. 1369797 He's just trying to push Putin into a corner and keep him there until he makes a deal. >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)17:18:16 No. 1369798 Putin is nearly broke. The ruble is worthless, the war trashed the treasury, and the oligarchs have hidden all the money they could overseas. It's not like the good old days when Donald was getting monthly cash from him. >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)17:45:44 No. 1369799 >>1369791 It's over for russia. Glory to Ukraine and USA - STRONGEST COUNTRIES IN THE HISTORY!>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)17:51:03 No. 1369802 >>1369791 as he was always going to; this isn't surprising news unless you've gotten fat drinking the reddit kool-aid>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)18:00:40 No. 1369803 >>1369798 Trump will disarm Ukraine, dismantle, NAFO and the EU, and serve Europe to Putin on a silver platter. Trust the plan. Two more weeks.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)20:45:16 No. 1369836 >>1369803 In what world does Trump have the power to do those things? Not this one.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)20:47:46 No. 1369841 >>1369791 >retards who don't understand Trump get fooled by their own hate Trump has always threatened to shut down NATO because Europeans don't pay for their own defense. The logic of the threat is obvious. If Europeans pay into NATO, then NATO is stronger. If Europeans don't pay into NATO then it is just the US and a bunch of freeloaders.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)20:48:33 No. 1369843 >>1369841 >Trump has always threatened to shut Some things are more important than money.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)20:53:44 No. 1369844 >>1369798 I want to see your ass deep into the Ukrainian trenches right now, you coward.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)21:19:16 No. 1369856 Russia unable to prevent Syria falling and loosing it’s navy base there is probably as big of a loss as if they lost their navy base in Crimea over this war. There’s blood in the water now, and Russia might be cracking, so it might invite Donald Trump to continue funding the war. Regardless if they win or loose, Russia’s influence in the world will be far worse than it was when they started the war. >>
putkn is worlds richest person 12/20/24(Fri)21:29:50 No. 1369862 Putin would give tRump a bigger kickback if he played ball >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)22:29:38 No. 1369878 >>1369799 >USA - STRONGEST COUNTRIES IN THE HISTORY! As evidenced by being unable to afford eggs, having to lock up the butter as consequence of your economy swirling the toilet, being unable to keep the chinese from kicking in their back door and taking everything shiny from your already unable-to-compete companies they wanted, allowing them to get balls deep into your comms networks, and having an inbound leader that's already backpedalling on every major campaign pledge that got him the votes whilst he consolodates power into a chosen few and is installing state-funded propganda machines that will surely be the envy of china, russia, and north korea. Murrica! And there's more. That list aint got any of the concerning things in it.>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)00:00:38 No. 1369906 >>1369878 the butter is locked up?>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)00:05:58 No. 1369907 They sliding this thread and need some anons help for to bump for the lelz it is causing. Absolute chaos>>>/pol/491944507 >>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)00:20:13 No. 1369911 >>1369906 I'd heard so... When seeking supporting evidence, I don't seem to see much. My bad. Erryfink else in there should check out. See something about russia tho. Mebbe it's the alzhiemers kickin' in and I'm getting my third world countries confuddled. Mebbe I smoked too much weed. Mebbe someone said suttin n I didn't bother checkin' before adding it to my iteneray of mockables... Pick whichever is funniest.>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)00:28:11 No. 1369912 >>1369911 well that's good for russia. they should steal the butter>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)02:49:11 No. 1369920 >>1369844 I'd rather see Putin stop trying to invade his neighbor for no reason.>>
ouch. that hurts when I stab u 12/21/24(Sat)03:18:34 No. 1369927 >>1369862 Zionist and ehnic cleanser, Miriam Adelson gave tRump much $. It's the Palestinian's fault for not meeting and upping her offer>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)06:44:23 No. 1369939 >>1369799 This but unironically>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)06:58:59 No. 1369941 >>1369843 you're a fucking retard. you're literally advocating that virtue signalling and failing is better than saying a mean thing and succeeding at what the virtue signaler said they wanted.>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)08:38:36 No. 1369944 >>1369941 What makes you think virtue signalling is the only thing being provided by NATO counties to the US besides money? What about all the US bases there? We should be paying them for those, not the other way around.>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)19:03:50 No. 1370001 >>1369791 womp womp lol>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)19:12:44 No. 1370003 Are you trying to say that all the campaigning threats were bluff and to sell a narrative to low IQ voters and actually Mr President is a puppet? >>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)19:43:07 No. 1370005 If he does send aid to Ukraine will the obnoxious voters admit they were led by the nose by rich people exploiting their outrage?? Or will they just quiet down and pretend they weren't huge loudmouths bitching about "muh foreign aid" for years at this point? >>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)21:05:46 No. 1370010 >>1370003 His company still wants to build a 100-story Trump Tower condo in downtown Moscow. He's been waiting 20 years.>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)21:51:39 No. 1370012 >>1370005 What outrage? I wanted him to cut foreign aid. Why did he renege on the promise to cut foreign aid and stop the wars?>>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)22:30:42 No. 1370013 Pretty sure Trump never said he would carte blanche cut off Ukraine from aid. He has though mentioned several times that his plan was to get the war to stop asap and would assist Ukraine in being able to defend itself from further incursions. He has though, on many occasions, stated he wants to give them less aid So he hasn't actually deviated from >>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)22:31:12 No. 1370014 >>1370013 So he hasn't actually deviated from his rhetoric from June: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/08/president-elect-trump-says-ukraine-to-possibly-receive-less-military-aid.html >>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)22:32:44 No. 1370015 >>1370014 Wrong article. Here's June: https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ukraine-russia-war-threatens-cut-aid-election-2024/ Even there he says he's just unhappy with how much aid they are getting. Doesn't actually claim he wants to got them off. >>
Anonymous 12/21/24(Sat)23:14:39 No. 1370021 >>1370012 Well your post definitely contains outrage.
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