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Need help identifying a chassis?

>http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/chassis-suspension/1312-honda-chassis-code-checklist/
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its over
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Free rsx type s guy here. She's coming home sunday.

Incase the engines too fukt to fix, I've scouted out replacement engines. One is an engine w/ trans for 1200, 228k miles but still running. One is a built shortblock on 86.5mm 11.7:1 wiseco pistons and other shit. If the head of my engine isnt warped, would my best bet be getting the built short block and having my head rebuilt, or just getting the high mileage engine and trans, and use those while my existing engine/trans are being done?
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>>27591349
Other than this, i'm likely going to get tein springs, new shocks/struts, either type r brake assembly or dc5association brake assembly, new stabilizer and strut bars, qualfe lsd, wheels and tires, then build k20 and kpro.
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Retard here, I just noticed the redline for the 8th gen Civic SI is 8000rpm while the rev limiter is at 8300. I always assumed redline was the max RPM you could hit in a car, but I guess not. Can someone explain to me what redline actually is if it's not max RPM possible like rev limiter #?
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>>27591401
Redline is where it should be pushed to, fuel cutoff happens shortly after to save engine.
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Hey guys, actual thread is here >>27591446
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>>27591448
I see, thanks lad.
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>>27591477
You bich basterd ballsack
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Does the Honda scene still worship this guy?
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Header arrived today. Quality is much better than expected for the price. Pretty good fit and welds.
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>>27591983
Ebay?
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Are Hondabros friendly with ToyotaChads? Or is there a rivalry over which is peak Japshit?
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>>27591349

buy picrel and some moog spherical lca bushings. rsx/ep3/element front suspension is the worst honda has ever produced, but both of those combined fix 90% of the tracking issues and bump steer these platforms suffer from.
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>>27594281
The website was "jackspania racing" but yeah pretty much
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All the bolts are cracked on the stock exhaust manifold
About to remove the cat and pop in the new header.
Kind of annoying job I'll be glad when it's over
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>checked tire pressure yesterday
>left digital gage in grass or something Idk
>can't find it today worried I need more air in one tire because I hit a curb yesterday afternoon
>my chinky air compressor has a digital display but don't trust it
>but an analog slime pressure reader and it's 2 psi less than my chinky thing so I'm either at 32 or 34 psi but the
recommended level is 33.
I AM AUTISTIC does this matter at all? I kind of want the same exact reader I had before now.
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>>27596755
Also I went under my car to take a look at the control arm ect after that curb yesterday.
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I'm pulling a code P1009 on a 2005 CRV and looking at possible causes. Most of it seems straight forward
>bad VTC actuator
>bad or dirty vvt solenoid/screen
>stretched timing chain

But I stumbled on this here.
https://www.crvownersclub.com/attachments/08-089-error-code-p1009-pdf.163496/
It says you have to "Update the PGM-FI software with the HDS."

I have a few questions.
>How likely is it that this update is the cause?
>Do I need to take this in to a dealership to have this done?
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>>27596755
You're fine, bro.
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Old and new
Moderately annoyed right now but an impact and ratcheting wrenches make this a lot less painful
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>>27596963
nice
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>>27596886
Idk now my ride feels stiff probably because they're overinflated. Gonna kms
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Rsx is home.

Built shortblock in my area with:
"86.5mm 11.7:1 wiseco pistons, Manley rods, ACL race bearings. Was a 93 tune, NA build with about 25k miles, never on boost or spray."

Should i jump on this, have my head port and polished, and drop it in?
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Header install is stalled
My catalytic converter was stolen while parked at a mechanics
They cut behind the flange and the guy repaired my shit for free but he just welded on a universal
Now I'm going to have to find a way to cut the pipe and clamp some connectors on that i picked up at vatozone
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>>27597375
That sounds nice. How much is it going for?
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>>27597400
1k obo. My options are that, 2k for a 222k mile k20a2 with trans, or hope this shortblock can be rebuilt. Car was never overheated, but low comp cyl 1 and 3. Assuming pistons are shot.
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honder
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>>27596755
it doesnt matter. ffs ur pressures change with temperature
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Green is what I've done since buying it. Put some conti tires on it. Red is what I need to do. I want to save money (this is why I asked about a warranty last thread). Car is a 2015 Honda Crosstour V6/awd
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>>27590894
stupid sexy integra
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>>27598677
Based preventative maintainer, i'm afraid it's gonna be cheaper to eat the cost of maintenance on an old Crosstour, than to buy a warranty that may fight you on shit.
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Just have to mate these up, let the copper rtv cure a bit, and I'm good to raise hell
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>>27599074
lookin gud
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>>27599441
Yeah i got them fitted with some clamps and connectors from vatozone
Sounded like a bit of exhaust leak but i can hardly hear it after 15 minutes running so hopefully it's good
Will probably have it welded properly soon
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>>27594326
Not even same category. Yoda is sensible family dad car, Honda is upstart kid car
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What's the consensus on these? This is a 2013 EX model with a 6-speed.

Ideally I would want the facelift version with the 6L 6-speed manual but that's like finding a unicorn right now.
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>>27599658
I had a 2016
Great cars. It was still my favorite car of all time. I had a blade V6 Touring I bought new. Some hobo pedophile twig old man with a lisp ran over my hood and totaled the car. I wish I still had it.
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>>27599664
RIP. That's rough anon. Did you at least get something decent after that?
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>>27599710
2019 2.0t Touring in black and tuned/modded under the hood.
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Haven't logged data or changed flashpro settings yet but the header feels excellent.
Frustrating because of the other exhaust issues, but very worth doing
I saw this cat that lives in the hardware store a few times today
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>>27599715
Nice. That's a really good car too
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>>27598896
>>27590894
This is the one in my area. It has an intercooler but oh god it's so sickly.
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>>27600200
YOU CAN SAVE HER
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First rule of driver safety: have fun.
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Actually I was just programing the radio presets after getting home and decided to partake in a fine beverage while listening to WCRB. We in /hg/ do not condone illegal activities.
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>>27600391
Nice 9th gen pre facelifted Accord, Anon.
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>>27600394
It looks better from the front, my mother drove into every obstacle imaginable, so if I could pull a clean bumper, passenger rear and driver fender from another white donor it'd be about mint. I didn't want it per se but I couldn't convince her to not by a HRV.
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>>27600421
>I couldn't convince her to not by a HRV.
What's wrong with the HRV? or is it just the same stuff wrong with every other car
A relative wants one too.
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>>27598929
Does this look right - what should i do next? I think I need to do brakes soon.
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>>27590894

2007 Saturn VUE here with a Honda J35S1 engine and trans and I have to say, it's been very reliable with zero maintenance beyond oil changes. Meanwhile, the GM parts of the car have been all kinda trouble; computer never goes into shutdown mode requiring a battery disconnect, AC doesn't work with a leak somewhere under the front facia, heated seat quit (drivers side only, of course) ignition switch wore out and needed replacing, anti-lock breaks constantly engage regardless of road condition and the radio intermittently cuts out.
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Rsx here again. Likely buying that built short block. What do I need to have done to my head to compliment the build? I'm assuming the stock cam will be a waste with how much work the bottom end has done.
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>>27601585
You said 11.7 cr pistons right? So NA build
Valvetrain, cams, and vtc cam gear for sure
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>>27601676
Do you have suggestions for any of those? Should I buy a cam, or have mine reground/new one made? I would prefer an NA, or SC build, so if this bottom end if built for NA that works perfect for me.
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>>27601881
I can't help you there. I'm shopping around for some currently myself.
Considering the drag cartel 3 cams for my k24 due to price and good dyno results
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Took my car to a quick lube place to do a quick oil change and now my car drives a bit worse than it used to. They had the nerve to recommend an alignment before I left so I'm almost certain they fucked something up to get me to come back for an alignment. I will be calling their corporate office tomorrow. Never going back there again. I'll stick to the stealership for oil
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TFW you don't have a garage or driveway to keep an extra Honda to wrench on and slowly build a track day car over the weekends

What am I going to do, I literally can't stop thinking about buying a second fun/project car
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>>27602929
You need to do your own oil change if you have a driveway. Something good can come out of it though, definitely press them and be on their ass about your car. I'm in a Corvette group and saw some guy went to jiffy lube and they fucked up his car and they sent him a check for 16k which is way more than what a new engine and replacement for the corvette is worth.
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>>27602947
Do you have any yard at all? They sell cheap tent style carports or even just a canvas canopy over it
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>>27602978
I rent a studio. No garage or driveway, just street parking sadly.
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>>27602950
I live in an apartment complex unfortunately and the parking spots are tight. Now that the weather is a bit nicer I think I'll start doing my own oil changes. There's a large semi-abandoned parking lot nearby. I just need to buy some stuff like jack stands etc so I can start doing it myself. I booked an appointment at the dealership to make them do the alignment and assess the suspension (idk what to look for, but I read that a bad suspension could also be an issue). While I'm there I might ask them to check the trade-in value. If I get a decent offer I might just sell it.
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>>27603021
You can do them in walmart parking lots too kek
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Redpill me on the HRV.
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>>27603021
What car do you have? I can slide under my accord and do an oil and filter change with no stand or ramp
Pro tip for oil changes. Just park over a storm drain and you don't have to worry about cleanup
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>>27603087
'14 Civic LX sedan. Don't think I can fit without jacking it.

>>27603024
Yeah that too, but the one nearby is usually packed every day.
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>>27600653
It was financial disaster.
Retard insisted on buying a new car despite owning a 10 year old car with 65000 miles and being $30000 already in debt when she commutes 8 miles a day and doesn't even work 5 months of the year because she can't make more than $20000 on social security. The build quality is cheap but it also is cheap so 6 one half dozen the other on the actual model.
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>>27603055
2.0L and CVT powertrain on a car that weigh's >20% of the original target for the powertrain.
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>>27603087
>I can slide under my accord
What generation? Are you just a midget or something? I can't work under my '04 without driving it up on wood blocks. i get my nose kissed by my burning hot tranny if i dont. transmission is hotter than the oil pan lol

>>27603098
>Don't think I can fit without jacking it.
lolwut

>>27601226
>J-series
>zero maintenance other than oil changes
bro J-series engines don't require any timing belt maintenance at all bro, it's not like they're an interference engine or anyth-ACK!
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>>27604250
>What generation?
CL9 accord (tsx)
I'm over 6' and not thin, but very long arms
The filter is a real pain to get off when i slide under
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Redpill me on the Accord, I am worried that the only engine option is the 1.5 turbo
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>>27603330
>It was financial disaster.
Ahhh, I see. thanks
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>>27604548
Honda interiors look like they have taken a nosedive too in 10 years, Vertical screens just sticking up randomly, entire dash length ugly grill looking vents. But that's across everything.
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>>27604561
Shame about the strangely shaped A/C vents, apart from the screen, the 10th gen Accord is really the best Accord interior they've ever done, everything since CM Accord has been some strange experiment, but they decided for the 2018 Accord, that the climate controls go down here, and the infotainment unit//whatever people put there in the future goes above it, no combining, no clusterfucked separate dual screens for infotainment and radio like on 9th gen, just a simple and beautiful space to spend time.
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>>27604497
They do have a naturally aspirated 2.0L engine and hybrid motor setup, it's probably the best daily driven Accord of all time.
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>>27591983
what does that thing do? I just have a standard honda accord.
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>>27605844
Headers are used to increase the flow of the exhaust on an engine, you get more air in and out, you can put more fuel in, make big power.

There's no need to modify your standard Honda Accord Anon, especially something that has to pass emissions and is tuned specifically to be run with its stock intake, stock exhaust, and emissions control systems in place.
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>>27598677
I also keep track of the work done on the car, even keep receipts. Helps with resale value, but I'm not selling anytime soon.
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>>27603021
>apartment complex
you can change your oil in the autozone parking lot. I think it has to be in a shitty area though. I've done it many times. Tehy dont really bother you, but in nice area, cops might bother you. You can get ramps that you drive up to drain the oil.
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9th gen si tourist here back from feburary
left pic is after pouring the stuff, right pic left side is the removed OE mount and right one is the poly'd one
i'm a leaf and bought 70A alumilite stuff from plastic world, i've had both roll mounts for about 2 weeks now and the vibrations so far are totally what i expected them to be. i only have the upper mounted pictured but i did both roll/torque mounts
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>>27605893
70a vibrations are really overrated
kids are getting soft nowadays
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>>27605845
>There's no need to modify
dot dot dot
Obviously it's not necessary. It is fun
After the ecu reflash and header it feels like a completely different car and i love it.
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>>27605923
I mean if you can get away with a little bit of tuning that's fine, but throwing a header on an untuned Honda really doesn't do much, might even cause problems.
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>>27605929
I'm still learning how to use the flashpro but i would definitely recommend that as a first mod for any car it's available on
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Anyone know if the new prelude is coming out in the foreseeable future. I was looking for a rebel 300 for a side vehicle but if the prelude comes out soon I might change my mind
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Need a manual daily driver for $10k or less.
Do I just get a civic, or look for something else?
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>>27606051
If you want that I would look at an acura ilx if it's in your price range for the better interior. Accords, TLs, and TSXs are good choices too.
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>>27606051
You can find an old Civic Si but it will require some looking and will probably be somewhat hoon'd to death.
But it will be fun at least.
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>>27590894
I have a second gen CR-V that I want to do funny stuff to I.e massacre a manual CR-V and convert mine to manual
then maybe put unnecessary mods I’ve grown attached to it and I really like the late 90s/early 2000s look of cars like this
I could probably get 5k or more from selling it given how fucked the prices are here in the Midwest though
is it worth it? Pic unrelated
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Based Yonaka exhaust, making even the CM sound good

https://www.youtube.com/watch/ffbcvn6CtXY
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would you still buy a car if there were holes drilled into the front bumper for a plate (if you live in a state that doesn't require a front plate)? it seems like every civic on carmax and carvana have them and it's been a dealbreaker for me.
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>>27606647
That wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me if the car is in good shape, luckily i'm into Honda Accords where the hole for the plate bracket is hidden in the bumper, but you can always get a bumper cover cheap, and have it painted, I wouldn't even trip on something like that on a car that's been looked after.
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>>27606647
Just bondo the holes and get some touch up paint. Its a non issue
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>>27606661
>>27606670
ok thanks. i've been trying to convince myself that it's not a big deal and have been failing to do so but you guys have convinced me.
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>>27606690
Isn't the ricer thing to do in no front plate states to get EU plates for Euro cars and Weeb plates for Japanese cars? You run the risk of getting heckled for it but if you have the proper one in the back and the front one is clearly not relevant to the US you can probably get away with it. I've also seen some with generic bumper sticker tier graphics on them.
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>>27606157
>is it worth it?
Only you can answer that. I know people upgrade to honda element sway bars.
https://youtu.be/TmvutNDHySQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUyZkgIfu4c
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>>27590894
Wanted to cop a 8th gen Civic Si but I barely fit in it
Are the 9th gen any better?
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>>27607177
accords are comfy for tall people. But if you put the seat back on the rails, you need kids in the back.vrvma
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>>27607214
>But if you put the seat back on the rails, you need kids in the back.vrvma
Can confirm, my 7th gen Accord backseat kinda sucks, but 8th gen and beyond, the car got huge and there was rear seat room for adults and a tall driver, because they went from a midsize car to damn near full size cars.
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>>27607214
I'm not sure about Accords, I'm not from USA so we don't have the V6 ones here and getting an Accord with a Civic engine seems retarded to me
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>>27607250
We haven't had Accord V6 in America for 7 years now, but there is nothing wrong with the 192HP 1.5T engine or the 2.0L hybrid in the Accord, it moves itself perfectly fine.
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>>27607255
I've actually been looking for something older
I'm looking at the 7th and 8th gen Accords atm
What's the difference between K20 engines and R20 engines?
The R20 seems to get better MPG at the same horsepower so it must be lacking somewhere else
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>>27607299
K20 is a much superior engine than an R18, it's a twin cam engine, get a K20 Accord if you can
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>>27607302
So R20 is just an upsized R18 right?
There's also an option for K24, are they any good?
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>>27607313
>R20 is just an upsized R18
Yes, Honda basically separates engines into letter series, and then you have a number designating how big it is, like a K24 engine is basically a K20 engine, but with a longer stroke to make it a 2.4L engine, it is very good and has the low end torque Honda Accords need to move themselves easily.
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>>27607313
I like mine quite a bit
My k24a2 has intake, header, and an ecu flash and it moves this barge pretty well. 205k miles on her with no mechanical issues at all. Fair mpg as well when driving reasonably.
The transmission feels great and the clutch has a comfortable weight and feel.
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>>27607334
God I wish my shithole country imported manual Accords
They only imported automatics here
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>>27607409
Nothing wrong with an automatic Accord anon, that's one of the best cruisers ever.
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>>27600044
>Exhaust issues

What exhaust issues? Are you getting codes from doing the header swap? 10th and 11th gens would def do that. I did a tune and it pulled an exhaust code I had to manually erase.
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>>27607424
Depend what gen and what autos.
ZFs and later Densos are fine, but early 00 Hondas are turdos.
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>>27607516
Can't speak for automatic V6s myself, but those 4 cylinder K series Hondas from the 2000s are damn fine even when people aren't taking care of it like they should, you'll even see F22/F23 Accords in complete disrepair with 4 speed autos still working over 25 years later.
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>>27607524
Oh yeah that's true. It's the Js that destroy autos in the mid 00. They switched to ZF in 2012, then Denso in 2018 and have been fine every since. Now they run the eCVT of course, which is pure magic. Can't even tell it's CVT.
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>>27607540
>ZF
Based, I always wonder that they were putting in 9th gen 6 speed auto Accords, because they just never have problems.
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got a new battery today
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>>27607580
Based Anon, I know doing shit to an old Honda to get everything back to perfect condition is expensive, but it's worth it.
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>>27607593
Not looking forward to brakes and the timing belt. And I have no idea how to ask a shop for the "valve adjustments". But I have a shop nearby that I will be getting quotes out and saving a lot of my paycheck each month to get that shit done.
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>>27607597
I wouldn't sweat the valve adjustment if it's not making ticking noises, I've seen a J series V6 go 920,000 miles without ever having valve adjustment before it lost a cylinder due to chipped exhaust valve, and 1,015,000 miles total before being replaced (still ran), but the timing belt and water pump job is the real monster you'll want to take care of, a 2015 Crosstour even close to the 10 year "ageing out" of a rubber timing belt, but it could use it due to the 90,000+ mileage, so you're at the stage of "when you get the chance and money" it's not about to bust off or anything, you're in good shape.
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>>27607621
Cool thanks.
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>>27607512
>What exhaust issues?
The cat was stolen and cut behind the flange. A new cat was welded on.
This header should have been bolt on but i kind of had to temporarily rig it as i didn't have the materials at the time to properly install it.
The codes are from the missing cat. I can disable them in flashpro
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>>27604322
>CL9 accord (tsx)
>6' and not thin
Bullshit lmao. I'm 5'11 and a fucking skeleton and i have trouble getting anything done without raising the car somehow. Is your head the size of a walnut? Your CL cant be much higher off the ground than my CM
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>>27607725
I can can't really prove it to you but i just went outside with a flashlight. My head can't really fit but my arm is long enough to reach everything with no issue
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honders
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>>27596883
I replaced the VTC screen and cleaned the VVT solenoid. We shall see if the code comes back. If it does, then it's actuator time.
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>>27607725
My driveway is on a slope but the wheels are on the ground.
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>>27611698
Based headers
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>>27611706
I should have used loctite on the retainer bolts. They rattled loose. I just ordered some springs.
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Brb selling my car
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no meme, wtf does wap mean? looking for any sign to see if the timing belt was done on my car (looking for a sticker mostly) and i find someone just wrote WAP + the odometer at the time (assumedly)

wtf does this mean?
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Two random strangers complimented the wagon yesterday. Feels good bros.
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Snow has now melted and holy shit, this rust has gotten worse from just 5 months ago. Is it over? Can this be mended at all?
>tfw living in the rust belt
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>>27612050
Imagine how much of a ballin ass African nigga you need to be to get a big ass Crosstour.
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>>27612443
>Can this be mended at all?
It can be fixed but not for cheap, you can cut out that section and weld in a new quarter, but it totals the car.
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>>27612481
>weld in a new quarter
Figured it was too badly rusted. I'm just going to live with it then. I can't weld for shit. I bought the car 7 years ago for 6k, I can't see myself spending that kind of dosh on a 16 year old car to weld in a part that will total it. As per usual car issues, I will ignore it and hope it goes away.
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>>27612536
>I bought the car 7 years ago for 6k
>literally $83 car payment
That's based as shit.
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>>27612374
would be a real shame if someone doused it in brake fluid and set it on fire
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Gentlemen, should I get a CR-Z? They seem like a cool and practical daily driver.
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>>27612884
I like the look of them but I'd be so tempted to mod it
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>>27612613
Why would you douse it in brake fluid if you're just going to set it on fire?
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Anyone here done a solo brake fluid change with one of those amazon kits? I'm at 34k miles so I think i'm overdue, but not looking forward to bleeding the brakes -_-
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>>27613527
you can do it!
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>>27614081
Th-thanks
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Thread, I need your guidance. I don't know shit about cars. I can change a tire and I can change the oil and that's about it. I'm stating this and apologizing in advance in case this question is retarded:

> Friend's roommate has a '92 Accord 4 door (I don't know which prefix yet)
> It's currently sitting, has been for about 2 months
> Apparently it was having some issues with "overheating and electrical"
> They believed that it was caused by the "transmission control unit going out"
> Friend's roommate did delivery driving at the time and needed a reliable car immediately so he jumped on a deal on a replacement
> As a result my friend told me that he told her he would sell it for "$100 plus the fee to transfer the title" ($98)

Obviously there are some important details missing here, but when presented with this information does it sound like it is worth investigating, or are there too many red flags? There are some caveats:

> I do not currently own a vehicle
> I live in an area with excellent public transit so I do not really NEED a vehicle, but it would be very, very nice to have
> I live in an apartment complex so I can't really work on anything here, and I don't want to do the classic "buy it and then it sits in someone else's driveway for a year before they finally give up and have it towed" scenario
> Because of this if its an easily findable/replaceable part that would work, but something requiring extensive knowledge/effort probably won't
> I know the owner well enough that I don't believe he would try and fuck me over by downplaying the issues, but I don't know how well he knows cars so I don't know how accurate his assessment is
> I don't make a shitload of money anymore so a vehicle that is relatively easy on gas and relatively cheap to insure would be nice
> I don't make a shitload of money anymore so a vehicle that will just become an endless money pit would not be nice

What say you, Honda General? I appreciate any thoughts or info you could provide.
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Wanting to make a frank k build. Need help and opinions on how to get a k24a4 block with k20a2 head to rev same as stock type s. Rods pistons anything is appreciated info wise
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>>27615423
>Need help and opinions on how to get a k24a4 block with k20a2 head to rev same as stock type s
Revving out a 2.4L like that would require a *very* built bottom end, and it wouldn't last very long. 7400 is the sane-person limit for the K24s. Get a K24A2 before you throw a rod on your A4 and damage your very expensive RSX-S head.

>>27614399
Totally worth the $198 if it's not 100% rust by now. Overheating may be a failed water pump, radiator or thermostat. Go ask what the electrical issues were and figure out if they're workable. Transmission modules of that era can be had from U-Pull for cheap, so if that's the actual problem then go for it. If the transmission itself is dying (slamming gears/clunking/flaring/slipping) then you'd be SOL, that'd require pulling the engine to replace it.
GO ASK!!!!!! We don't know!
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>>27613527
i dunno what it's like on newer cars with ABS but i was able to just gravity bleed my brakes, speeding things up a bit by pumping the pedal, all solo. it helps if you have tubing on the bleeder so the fluid in the line acts as a barrier to any air that would otherwise get sucked back in. if you're worried about air getting in via the bleeder threads, just dab some brake grease around the base to seal it.
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>>27591983
>4-2-1
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>>27615447
Theres gotta be sleeves/pistons/rods/etc + kpro that should be able to let it handle and have a power band to 8k rpm safely, no?

That said, i still dont know whats wrong with the k20a2. Entire block looks clean, inside oil cap looks clean and isnt milky. But the car has no dipstick, and the valve cover and exhaust manifold have oil on em. Theres no way the "low compression" engine is just because of a missing dipstick is there?
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>>27615713
I did finally get the battery charging though. I took a break and hooked it up to the car to see if the battery was taking a charge, and sure as shit lights came on, but not enough to try to roll over yet.
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>>27615713
You need a new oil pump as well to rev high. According to forums the k24 oil pumps can cause cavitation above 7600 rpm
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>>27615713
>i still dont know whats wrong with the k20a2
Get (loan from Autozone) a boroscope camera and peek down the cylinder bores. Turn the engine by hand and look for no-nos (scoring down the cylinder walls, play in the pistons, steam-cleaned cylinders, piston-valve contact...). If you can rebuild the stock motor you'd be better off at high revs than with the shitty economy k24.

Also revving out a k24 like that is just a bad idea. Getting cams would give you more power without raping the bottom end with 8000 revs. Replace the k24a4's rotating assembly with k24a2 or z3 parts, swap on the K20 head and run some skunk cams. Gets 250HP N/A or something. The few HP gained from high revs aren't worth the absolute plummet in reliability.
https://www.k20a.org/threads/k24-all-motor-rev-limit-questions.228549/
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>>27615876
>the shitty economy k24
CM engine is pretty based, they built the pump and bottom to handle over 7 grand, which you would never hit and you can beat the shit out of it for decades.
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>>27615876
Realistically, so long as my head is good, and block has no leaks, warping, never overheated, etc, then at worst i should just need a cylinder bore, new rods and pistons, and rings, right?
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Went on a ~300mi road trip in my crostour this past weekend. Good performance overall and even did some light off roading to get to a trail and canal tunnel. Conti tires stood up well although they like to catch rocks in them. Fastest I went was probably 95mph and the car handled it well but it's hard to push this fat thing that fast and you get a lot more noise in the cabin. Overall great, I wish I didn't drink as much Saturday night so I could've enjoyed driving more yesterday.
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>>27616245
depends. if the cylinders are properly fuckered (deeply scored, out of round etc) you'd need them bored.
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>>27616068
>they built the pump and bottom to handle over 7 grand
From my understanding the bottom end is /mostly/ identical to the K24A2, sparing the weaker rods, lack of under-piston oil sprayers and low-comp pistons with shallow valve reliefs (which basically restrict you to stock valve lift until you replace them with TSX or aftermarket pistons)
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>>27616051
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>>27616336
If I do need to bore it out, what all will i need to replace with it? Am i better off just pulling the engine and taking the whole thing to a machine shop and have them redo it? Id like to keep it as cheap as possible fixing the k20a2, as id just like to drive the car for now while saving for a swap.
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>>27616336
>>27616743
And in the case of taking it to a machine shop, should i buy a rebuild kit with rods/pistons/rings/etc, and bring thst with the block for them to use?
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>>27616743
>>27616794
You would most likely just need a hone unless as the other guy said they are really damaged. Make sure your new pistons account for the overbore size
Do they make a stroker kit for the k20? Mite b laff
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>>27616861
Pretty sure i cant post links here and cant post pics in phone incognito, but i was going to get the "JDM Nippon Racing K-Series Pistons / SCAT Rods Combo RRC CTR High Comp K20/ K24 FD2 " from swapshopracing, and have them throw that in after boring the engine.

Ive never had to use a machine shop before, so idk the process. Do i disassemble hesd and shortblock and bring them in with parts, or do they crack open the block and inspect it for you before work?
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>>27616903
No clue. I never took a block for machining, just worked in a non automotive shop in the past
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>>27616338
You live in PA? You only went 95 so you could show off and pass me. . . after we got up the hill. NIGGER.
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>>27616912
Sorry bro, had to beast you
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>>27615447
>Totally worth the $198 if it's not 100% rust by now. Overheating may be a failed water pump, radiator or thermostat. Go ask what the electrical issues were and figure out if they're workable. Transmission modules of that era can be had from U-Pull for cheap, so if that's the actual problem then go for it. If the transmission itself is dying (slamming gears/clunking/flaring/slipping) then you'd be SOL, that'd require pulling the engine to replace it.

Thank you, I appreciate the info.

>GO ASK!!!!!! We don't know!

I know, I'm just asking if there are any immediate red flags because I'm out of my element here. I just want to avoid a "My friend will sell me his 90s Subaru [whatever] that isn't running, I asked him what was wrong and he said he thought it was something wrong with a blown breadbasket, will this be a simple repair???" situation.

I'll try and get some more info. I did find out that its an LX, but whatareyougonnado.
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>>27618095
Fuck, I just realized that I missed an opportunity to make a "I'm out of my Honda element" pun here.
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I was looking at getting a 5spd AWD CR-V. I found a decent 06, but it has 320k miles. At what point does this reliability go out the window?
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>>27590894
pretty solid score this weekend, drove like 6 hours on sunday to cop the first GSR/B18C compatible JRSC kit I have seen for sale in over a decade, came with everything important too. I just need to get belts, replace or fix the broken nipple on the bypass valve diaphragm, and make a support bar for the supercharger to the back of the block (mount's already there).

They don't make a whole lot of top end power (230-280 wheel range) as they aren't intercooled but it should be super responsive and greatly help the low-end. Gonna run stock s/c pulley and cr-v crank pulley for ~8lbs on my 11.5:1 comp B18C, most likely gonna run meth as detonation is gonna be tricky to avoid with high compression and IATs on 93
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>>27618206
also I finally cleaned out my hoarder garage so I can do project car stuff inside, at my leisure. it's pretty fuckin' cash desu. car is like 15 steps from my computer setup so I can go outside at 1am and smoke cigarettes and stare at it. all you can really ask for in life
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>>27618206
>>27618211
That's wicked.
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>>27618126
A 320K mile K series is pretty reliable if it's oil has been changed a lot, I'd rather have a well maintained 300,000 mile Honda than one with something like 150,000 that needs everything imaginable because it's old and has been neglected.
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>>27590894
I think I might have blown another head gasket. Is this normal for 9th gen Accords with 2.4L Engines?
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>>27607333
What would be better for daily driving and no tuning a K20 or a R20?
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>>27619345
K20 is ideal engine
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>>27619355
Can you elaborate?
On paper I don't see it
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>>27619401
It has the dual camshafts and is good
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>>27600353
you can't have fun with your instrument panel brightness so high
>>27602929
if they told you that you needed an alignment the tech 100% loosened the tie rod locknut and adjusted the tie rod a bunch to create a toe condition. you can inspect for witness marks if you'd like. a tech cannot recommend an alignment from a simple visual inspection under the car. he has to put sensors on it and check with an alignment machine or fuck it up himself.
>>27612884
get a 1988 Honda CR-X (good luck finding one)
>>27619401
K20 = been around for 2 decades now. proven engine design.
R20 = been around nowhere near as long, SOHC, plastic shit everywhere
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>>27619345
>no tuning
An R20 would be a more comfy grandma-car engine. It's an undersquare torque monster like the K24. K20 is square and requires you to rev higher.
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>>27619345
I daily a K20 all day erryday.
Pros:
>fun to a degree that you can easily pass in traffic and be generally belligerent
>makes cool noises
>does not mind being redlined at all but is making actual power as low 3k and likes to cruise and sip gas at about 2k
>22-28mpgish
Cons:
>you will absolutely get raced unless your K20 is bone stock, people will hear you coming and you will find out exactly how fast you actually are
>3k-4k revs at real highway/freeway driving speeds, you stop being peak fuel efficient at around 50mph or so
>check oil frequently, but you should just do that always anyways.
picrel not mine at all I really wish I had a built red top K20 that would be most choice
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>>27614399
>>27615447
>>27618095

An update from my friend after asking for info from the post:

"It's not a failed water pump. Radiator is ok. Thermostat is unlikely, but old. The biggest electrical issue is that it's drawing power when it's off, which kills the battery. It's an old transmission so you have to let off the gas pedal (vs accelerating) while shifting. It overheats at long stoplights, but that's theoretically the transmission control unit. No major rust, but its also been sitting for a couple months."

If the coolant levels are good, the fans are working, and the thermostat is ok I don't understand how a car could be overheating specifically when idling at a long stoplight, but I also have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about.

For the power draw when off issue I assume that the best way to track it down would be to attach a multimeter to a non-dead battery and then start pulling fuses until the draw stops (and hope its a fuse for something cheap).

The shifting stuff is interesting. I got a crash course in stick shifts when I borrowed a friend's '03 Pontiac Vibe for around a month and a half back in like 2010, but outside of that I have no experience with manuals.
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>>27619586
Its illegal to tune cars where I live so its gonna be stock
And racing is not really a thing here either
I just want a commuter that I can also enjoy on weekends
Been looking at Accords and Civics
The old Civics come with R18s
The old Accords come with K20 (7th gen) or R20 (8th gen)
Civic is less appealing to me because its kinda small and I'm 6'4
So I am leaning more towards the 7th gen K20 atm, my only worry is the MPG
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>>27619633
7th gen K series Accord is gonna get good MPG and be super dynamic and fun because double wishbone suspension,

Its really the best car.
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>>27619633
I only get on the lower end of 20mpg absolutely hooning it everywhere.
25-30 is bretty gud mpgs if you can keep it at that 2k mark.
I will say it does like high octane gas, even without a tune, and it doesn't like the cold so you actually want to make sure you get a little good revs in after you have warmed it up just to get some real temp built up.
5w-20 flows easily though but you will absolutely notice a difference between a cold and hot K20.
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>>27619653
>20ish mpg hooning
That's pretty based, I'm averaging 23 mpg doing city driving 20 years after the Honda said it did 24 mpg, it's shocking how rich K series runs when it's cold, I think most of my fuel spend is heating this bastard up, but man is it lean burning and efficient when the engine it good and hot.
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What Honda models are relatively cheap but are also worth putting some money into? I wan't to get my first project but have most of my income tied up in paying off some debt. Really want something to play around with though.
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>>27619653
> Civic Hatchback costs $5,849 in 1988
> Inflation brings this to $15,789 in 2024
> 2024 Civic Hatchback has a base price of $24,950
> Actual price is over $9,000 higher than the inflation adjusted price

> Minimum wage in 1988 was $3.35 an hour
> It would take a minimum wage employee 1,746 hours of work to afford a base level Civic in 1988
> Minimum wage in 2024 is $10.30 an hour
> It would take a minimum wage employee 2,422 hours of work to afford a base level Civic Hatchback in 2024
> This is a difference of 676 hours (roughly 17 additional weeks of work)
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>>27619667
Mine was modified tastefully™ by a previous owner or two and has a big succ hot air ram intake and exhaust and was likely intentionally tuned at some point to dump fuel easily and make those loud brap crackles if I get on and off the accelerator quickly.
I don't mind it, but don't usually engage in that sort of behavior.
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Found a 2012 accord exl under 100k miles but a little out of my price range. Do I just suck it up and buy it
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>>27619900
Just buy it, if you're not made of money, you need this reliable ass efficient car in your life.
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>>27619900
Auto?
Skip it
2013 they fixed the transmissions, bro.
SKIP
IT
before 1999 and after 2013, skip all Hondas but s2000 and NSX made between these years. Only buy cars before and after these years
FUCKING
PERIOD
.
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>>27619633
7th gen accord will be small for you too
I have a tsx and my head rubs the cieling at 6'1" if I'm in a comfortable upright position
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>>27619916
EP3 Civic and manual Fit are fine.
Space egg Civic was fine too but for eurobros only.
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>>27619918
>I have a tsx and my head rubs the ceiling at 6'1"
Definitely wouldn't touch the ceiling if you didn't have a sunroof, my base model 7th gen has absurd headroom.
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>>27619934
Yeah you're right. It sucks, but i use the sunroof all the time
I just lean back like a mexibutt
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>>27620191
Enjoy that thing, I sometimes wish I had a sunroof to listen to the K series noises, but the solid roof is alright, keeps the car rigid.
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>>27620231
Mine is so quiet with the stock exhaust even at high revs
Thats not a bad thing, but if any music is playing it's basically drowned out.
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>>27619918
I will try it, I drove a 8th gen Accord and it was fine, is the 7th gen really that much smaller?
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>>27621322
The 7th gen Accord is truly a midsize car, it's about as large as a Honda Civic is now, Accords have basically been really thicc cars since the 2008 model year.
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>>27619916
>DUDE BUY A FUCKING CVT
Retard
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>>27621348
A brand new Civic or Accord CVT is actually a pretty smart purchase, especially of it's a K20C engine and hybrid motor.
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>>27621348
I've put damn near 50k miles on mine (10th gen Civic Sport hatch with the 1.5T), majority of which has been with a tune. It's fine if you keep up with fluid changes.
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>>27621322
When you said it's illegal to tune cars it made me think you're euro and the tsx is the euro/japan chassis. If you have the american CM body code it's a bit bigger and as the other guy said there is more headroom with no sunroof
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>>27621364
>>27621483
>late model CVT
those are fine, but even a 2003 5AT would be better than a 2013 CVT.
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>>27622450
Can confirm CM BCLA pretty based, still buttery smooth after all this time.
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Please recommend visors for 9th gen civic sedan. I was looking at these, but when I contacted the seller, they mentioned that the one shown at the top is different from the one at the bottom. The one at the top is what I want - it's basic with no hard lines in it. A lot of eBay ads seem to have this issue where the actual product is different from the photos.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113065993423
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>>27624124
>Please recommend visors
I'm gonna have to recommend weathertech if you're into good visors, at least for the front, they're designed in such a way to not need adhesives to be held in place on the front window frame, the rear windows will need adhesive strip to stay in place, I'm considering picking at least a set of the front visors for my Accord so that I can ventilate and not need to run A/C compressor when it's 5000% humidity but cold.
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recently test drove the current gen Pilot and man it's comfy as fuck
not as slow as I was expecting either, and handles pretty nice considering how big it is
only thing is even in the EX-L trim which is second from the bottom, the dealer wants 51k for it
I guess it had a bunch of options on top of the trim but that's still like 5k over MSRP
gonna need a 3 row eventually though, and I don't really see many better options on the market
even used, anything in this gen without a lot of miles is going to be over 40k at least in my area
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>passenger side cabin light goes out
>buy another on hondaparts.com
>comes, install it
>it's the wrong lightbulb
>fuck with light in there and realize it's not blown and it works after re-adjusting
>mfw
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>>27624124
>>27624349
what's the point of those things?
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>>27624407
Could be worse, I once replaced a good aftermarket motor mount with an OEM one thinking it was bad, when it turns out I was chasing an exhaust rattle caused buy a $30 piece of rubber and an hour of labor.
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>>27624417
They're for ventilating the car by having windows cracked in the rain, but without getting raindrops all over your car, often times when it's cold, I'll have my heater on and the windows fog out because of the temperature difference and humidity getting on them, but if I had the windows cracked open in rain or snow, I could blast heater and not get all that fogging going on if the windows are cracked open and not getting moisture in the car.
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>>27624420
looks ghetto imo
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>>27624425
I definitely prefer the look of them not being there at all, but man would it be handy for my car, especially if it's parked outside, I can have the windows cracked so that a little bit of fresh air can come in so that it doesn't become an oven.
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>>27624349
I actually had a set of WT on the car when I bought it but I didn't really like how they looked (especially the rear ones). They broke and I never replaced them. I don't really like the OEM ones that much either.



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