So sport auto (german car magazine) did a lap with it around the Nordschleife, and the result is: 7.10,51. I though this car was supposed to be a GT3 RS competitor, but it can't even match a regular GT3. Around 1.5 sec. faster than an 2010 Dodge Viper ACR, Would probably match/beat it with modern tyres. 3.5 sec. faster than a 2017 C7 Z06 (manual) with Pilot Sport Cup 2s, while the C8 Z06 had the Pilot Sport Cup 2 Rs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BghfuoRK430
>>28099560try checking the catalog before posting the same thread, retard nigger.
>>28100274The C8 Z06 is a $130k base model. No, it's not supposed to compete with $400k cars.
>>28100281you can't even read the thumbnail picture on the catalog you low iq mongoloid nigger faggot
>>28100285yet you could've easily ctrl f the exact youtube link and realized a thread existed if you weren't a retarded nigger.
>>28100288oh yeah I'm going to ctrl+f a random yt video every 30 seconds on the catalog randomly, end your useless life you gorilla nigger.
Great thread.
>>28100274their driver sucks. he’s slow as a motherfucker, literally 20s slower than a good driver
>>28100345that's OP for ya. dumb nigger with a dumb thread.
you're the one that got butthurtseethe more faggot ;)
>>28100274lol what's the point of bench racing these fast ass cars, you see yourself how big of a difference a driver makes. You could buy this car and still get smoked by amateurs since you can't drive. Just stick to discussing 1/4 mile times at least you could replicate those numbers with the automatic versions of your favorite cars.
>>28100274>I though this car was supposed to be a GT3 RS competitor, but it can't even match a regular GT3Nobody thought this besides you. Anybody else is waiting for zr1 cause it may actually be a serious gt3 rs competitor on the ring.
>>28101206So why is almost every major content creator comparing this car to the gt3/gt3 rs or other track oriented performance cars? What do you think z06 stands for?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCQlLa36-0chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUqDKZEf_FAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNkM-z3cPW8
>>28101518Because they want to draw views, dumbass. Making wild claims and walking back or just not addressing them in the content is how media works now, especially video media. When the ZR1 starts hitting the media circuit, you'll see the same videos but with ZR1 in the title instead of Z06
>>28101534>comparing a track oriented mid engine performance car vs other track oriented performance cars is le clickbaityeah nothe zr1 will probably be compared to high end super cars
>>28100284The z06 isn't the base model
>>28101534The zr1 is more like the turbo/gt2
>>28101597Actually yeah. When you drop all price context, comparisons can become clickbait. Z06 starts 113k, gt3 RS starts 241k, so literally over double before a single option or dealer markup. ZR1 could start at 200k, we just don't know yet
>>28101597Gt3 rs is a high end supercar in terms of track performance. You just underappreciate it because it doesn't have 4 figure number of hp.
>>28100274Is the driver good?
no because ones a nazi hitler based and aryan redpilled porschethe other is just a chevy trying to copy the italiansnobody will buy a z06 if it was priced as a euro exotic, similar to why nobody buys jap supercars
>>28101637It's a german magazine, they probably put manthey racing parts and full slicks on the GT3 and called it stock.
>>28101682Well the big record from the Porsche a while back did have manthey racing aero, they called it the "rs Mr" Good point though you do want to see the company give it a try as they have a vested interest.
>>28101662But instead of just selling cars that go fast, European companies sell a cult, which is why their cars are so expensive. People buy $200k-$550k European supercars as status symbols and even more expensive ones as an investment. If someone just wants to have a cool car, he will likely buy a Mustang, Corvette or whatever doesn't cost $200k+.
>>28100308>random
The cope is insane. Dogshit Chevy gets raped yet again by based Porsche for the fifty millionth time. Remember this the next time you speak to Hans, Cletus.
>>28101662Last part is on target, I was ready to buy until the lowest dogshit trim mark starting price was $114k and nfw was anyone selling them close to that… at that price there’s a lot more appealing options in the lightly used space and I ended up with another Porsche.I like the z06 and it sounds amazing, kinda surprised it didn’t do better but the ring also favors POWAH and that prob hurt it.
>>28101604It pretty much is compared to the ZR1. The Stinggay is for try-hards.
>>28100274It couldn't even match an EV sedan lmfao
>>28102346you're an ass.
>>28102242>but the ring also favors POWAH and that prob hurt it.It has 670 hp lmao
>>28102524With not a lot of torque. That's not much when you're moving a 4000lb vehicle with it.
>>28101518z06 0.6s behind gt3 RS in pobst's lapsSG's in-house pro driver laptime puts z06 0.1s ahead of regular gt3modern top gear tests the convertible chassis instead of the full-rigidity targa, a turbo cab would probably be the equivalent chassis to compare but the base 911 cab would be the price equivalent
>>28102533Doesn't matter in a sports car driving on a track, it's not a tow truck
>>28102346Stingray - CarreraZ06 - GT3ZR1 - GT2The z51 would be a GTS or something
>>28100274bump
>>28103470>7:04fake news
>>28103490>7:08 Verified fake news>Admissions of Modifications: Later, it was revealed that the GT-R used for this lap time had some modifications that made it different from a standard production car. This included specific tuning for the Nürburgring, such as:Aerodynamic tuning for more downforce.Weight reduction through bucket seats and other modifications.>Suspension tuning, with softer dampers for the 'Ring's unique conditions.>A new ECU map.I don't know why you continue to spam that bullshit image.
>>28103527>it was revealedby whom?>it's bullshit because it makes my butt hurtKEK
>>28103549btw, the C7 ZR1 that supposedly did a 7:04 had a modified exhaust and was not street legal in Germany because it had American plates lolz
>>28103549>>28103552>A supposedly modified, supposedly non-street legal GTR laptime with video evidence that was officially released by the manufacturer is fake>A verifieably modified, verifablly non-street legal Corvette laptime with no video evidence that was kept secret by the manufacturer is true. Hmm... I wonder who is lying and who is not.
kek, soviet got triggered by the C7's lap time.>but muh videonever mind the GTRs that are listed on the nurburgring with no videos.
>>28103549>>28103552>>28103566What are you talking about you stupid Niggsan shill? Niggsan themselves admitted it was fake. They posted that bullshit time in 2013 and everyone in every auto community noticed how off the times were in comparison with the actual Nismo and called bullshit. Niggersan eventually caved and started to do damage control and admitted the car wasn't standard and was modified but you could "maybe some day in the future the modificiations we used for this laptime could be available in special packages or editions"Quit it the bullshit already.
>>28103636>You are triggered the C8 is still slower than the GTRLolzThe 7:08 has a video and that's the time I am quoting, blame trannypedia for not being a reliable source and uploading laptimes of other GTRs with no videos>>28103647>Niggsan themselves admitted it was fake>admitted the car wasn't standard*citation needed*>"maybe some day in the future the modificiations we used for this laptime could be available in special packages or editions"The Kit A N-Attack was made available for sale to customers you fucking retard.>>28103549Keep malding and coping lolz
>>28103676Even fastlaps had to acknowledge the car car was extensively modified by niggsan kek. It's funny you use their images as a source when it makes our point for us if you were smart enough to actually click on the time.https://www.carthrottle.com/news/bad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lie
>>28103676>Soviet is triggered that the C6 is also faster than the GTRLELZ
>>28103700>Some autist at fastestlaps said it so it must be trueThe reason why it says that in fastestlaps is because it doesn't have an specific entry for the Kit A N-Attack package, which was sold to customers lolzhttps://bhauction.com/en/private-sales/2015-nissan-gt-r-nismo-n-attack-package-a-kit>www.carthrottle.com%2Fnews%2Fbad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lieThat article has been deboonked as fake news, Nissan offered the Kit A N-Attack package to customers lolzKeep malding and coping lolz
>>28103708>Non-production, non-street legal, no video, modified race carThat time has been deboonked lolz
>>28103719>Non-production, non-street legalin the same category as the car that did 7:08.>racing events need videocope.
>>28103716HAHAHA holy fucking kek how do you not see how hour own links are fucking over your own argument.>the 7:08 is from 2013 and was marketed as a normal nismo >your edition is from 2015 >there is no N-attack from 2014-2015 or newer that has a 7:08That pretty much fucking settles it kek the time was always bogus.
>>28103724>In the same categoryPost a "Corvette C6 SP" driving on public roads after being sold to a customer by GM themselves.https://youtu.be/G9poQEp_9bQ?feature=shared>Racing eventsHe conceded that he is comparing non-production, non-street legal race cars to production cars that can be seen driving on public roads lolz.
>>28103734>the 7:08 is from 2013 and was marketed as a normal nismoNo it wasn't lolz>there is no N-attack from 2014-2015 or newer that has a 7:08You are fucking retarded lol, There is no 2013 Nismo GTR, and the 2014 and 2015 are the same model lolz. Fucking retard lolz
The comments are saying the gear ratios are too long
>>28103741>Post a "Corvette C6 SP" driving on public roads Post a production street legal N attack GTR that can lap the ring in 7:08. none of these cars have done so.>comparing non-production, non-street legal That's what the pre production car that did 7:08 is. the C7 and C8 that lapped the ring are dealer spec vehicles. so its not comparable to those, only other non production cars that aren't street legal.
>>28103762Retarded ape monkey niggsan shill. I know it went above your head but I'm not talking about model years I'm talking about the year the lap was lapped you braindead retarded monkey. These packages didn't come out until years later and until this day there isn't a single 7:08 or better or close to it since 2013 even with these packages being out.
>>28103762>There is no 2013 Nismo GTRconfirmed not production lap.
>>28103767the very first post is exactly that>>28100281 but /o/ is a low IQ board, so no one bothered to read it.
>>28103771>>28103768>>28103734This 100% proves Nissan always faked the time. Besides the one outlier time that was confirmed to he fraudulent due to modifications the r35 in any factory configuration has come close to a 7:08 to this day.
>>28103768None of the 911 GT2s Manthey sold to customers have lapped the ring in 6:43.None of the production Aventador SVJs sold to customers lapped the ring in 6:44 like the preproduction model did.>But it's...LE BAD!!! when Nissan does it!!!Lolz
>porsche, ford, nissan, dodge, etc all live rent free in the heads of government motor niggers.KEK
>>28103800there are GTRs on the nurburgring list that don't have video. >BUT ITS LE BAD WHEN GM DOES IT
>>28103773>>28103792The Aventador SVJ that lapped the ring in 6:44 was a pre-production model, it lapped the ring before it's official release date yet nobody in the industry calls it fake.>B-but it's only ....LE BAD!!! when Nissan does itLolz.
>walk into taco bell>squats down>*sharts* why is he like this?
>>28103800If anyone does similar shit to what niggsan did they're gay too but nobody artistically spams their fake times here only niggsan times so that's why niggsan gets the hate.
>>28103805I am not quoting trannypedia because trannypedia isn't a reliable source. I do not care about any of those times. I am only quoting the 7:08 laptime of the Nismo GTR that has video evidence, lolz>When GM does itGM never backed up Mero's 7:04 claim retard lolz.Lolz
The Radical SR8 LM that went 6:48 was more road legal than anything Japan or America ever shipped over. It had a uk license plate, was driven to the ring and didn't even change tyres when it arrived.
/o/ friends we are so back
>>28103814and i don't care about Porsche and Lamborghini times. the C7 and C8 have dealer spec post production 3rd party tested times.why doesn't nigsan?
>ARGH IT'S MY BOOGEYMAN!!Lolz he reached the meltdown point again.>>28103812There are zero articles on CarThrottle about the SVJ being a pre-production model, the laptime is still in the production section of trannypedia. There is an obvious bias towards Nissan by people who can't cope lolz.
>>28103817>British Single Vehicle Approvalbasically what non production cars use to get plates in the UK. Sport Auto doesn't consider the SR8 to be production or street legal (not TUV approved).
>>28103821Taco bell is biased towards Nigsan. in fact, i was in the drive through, and the nigsan driver got a free taco and burrito's cravings pack.i didn't get one, because i wasn't driving a nigsan. you have the power to fix this, yet you let it happen.
>>28103821I dont read car magazines lmao, I go on /o/ and see spam of fake niggersan times weekly for years. That's why they get my hate, again if these other brands fake their times like niggersan does they're gay too.
>>28103820>It's Nissan's fault SportAuto can't test a Nismo GTR.Lucky for us another magazine did a proper comparison between both cars lolz.
>>28103830>I have been coming to /o/ for years to get baited by S/o/vietNice self-own lolz.>>28103829>Mad he is forced by Taco Bell to drive Nissan to get more goyslop from them.Lolz.
>they ragequitThe legendary badge of invincibility wins again.
>>28103867>>28103843>>28103833I'm still waiting for a nismo n-attack to get a laptime of 7:08, it's 9 years later since those packages came out and still no lap kek. Just a fake time from 11 years ago.
>>28103889> It's ok when Porsche and Lamborghini do it.
>>28103894I'm not talking about them nor did I say it say it was okay, but I accept your concession by admitting that niggsan cheated alongside other cheaters like Lamborghini and porsche.
>>28103909>Standard practices within the industry are considered cheating because... Well... IT JUST IS OKAY?!?!
>>28103913Just because nogs nig doesn't make it alright they all cheated and when they cheat they're fake and gay. Porsche lamborghini and especially niggersan are all gay. Cope seethe and dilate nignog
>>28103913>>Standard practices within the industrylike a no lap video lap time?
>>28103913Your argument would only make a lick of sense if someone was talking about the specific fake porsche and lambo lap times and comparing them to the fake gtr laptime
>>28103941>>28103922Manufacturers sometimes use pre-production models to set laptimes and performance data before releasing a production version of a car, sorry this fact makes you so upset.>>28103925GM never released any C7 ring laptimes, nobody but Jim Mero is claiming he did a 7:04 and even then, the car was modified in a manner GM intended to release a package like, see >>28103552
>>28103953>In a manner GM never intended*
>>28103953>>28103957What does a driver recounting his experience while Chevrolet has no claims or comments have to do with the fact Niggersan themselves were the one who marketed and hyped up a fake laptime with a modified car that to this day cannot be recreated with any production GTR kek. Your arguments don't even make any sense, you inadvertently end up undermining your own points due to your own stupidity.Besides I'm not even talking about the C7 ZR1 laptime kek I'm only speaking about niggsans fake laptime not anyone else's laptimes.
>>28103953>GM never released any C7 ring laptimes,but sport Auto did. where is the production dealer spec civilian plated nigsan times?
>>28103966>Fake laptimeThere is video evidence >ModifiedOffered the same package to customersCope, mald, seethe and dilate
>>28103977>It's Nissan's fault SportAuto can't loan a Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTRHere you can see the results of a third party magazine test testing both cars in dealership spec on the same day with the same driver. >>28103833
>>28103978Except it wasn't, where is the N-attack package A or B laptimes that recreate the 7:08? These packages came out years later lmfao after the bogus laptime.We all know what niggersan did >stripped the car specifically for the test >custom tuned the suspension specifically for thest specifically for the test>tweaked the ECU specifically for the testThe video is of them cheating lmao hence why no n attacks have a 7:08
>>28103981>a third party magazine test that includes the slower Non N attack
>>28103978You already admitted they cheated multiple times but coped by saying porsche and lamborghini did it as well. You already defeated your own argument.
>>28103981>>28103986Lol at a base model Stingray beating the GTR in a head to head test.
>>28103984Where is the Aventador SVJ that recreates 6:44? Where are the Porsche 911 GT3 RS and Lamborghini Huracán Performante that do sub 7 minute laptimes without an aftermarket rollcage?>It's only ...LE BAD!!! when Nissan does it.>stripped the car specifically for the test>custom tuned the suspension specifically for test specifically for the test>tweaked the ECU specifically for the test*citation needed*
>>28103987>Industry standard practices are cheating!!!Lolz
>>28103993>>28103995>keeps bringing up Porsche and Lamborghini when we're talking about the corvette>ignores non video'd laps being part of the industry too, with Nigsan having done them
>>28103993You are so fucking retarded it's sickening. Nobody is saying it's only bad when niggersan does it, they're gay and fake just like niggsan. But I accept your concession the poorsche and the lamboweenie cheated and so did the niggersan. That's all I wanted to hear. And nah none of them doing it was okay.
nobody cares about your plastic c6s and c7s, this thread is about the c8 z06, and why it's slow
We could have more magazine comparisons if not for the fact that the C7 was an unreliable turd lolz>>28103991Not a Nismo GTR lolz>>28103986The GTR won that comparison either way lolzhttps://www.autobild.es/comparativas/duelo-3-audi-r8-v10-pluscorvette-z07nissan-gt-r-nismo-115304
>>28104002>>28104004Not my problem you can't deal with the fact that the car industry already decided testing pre-production models is valid. The only people who can't deal with this are autists like you. Keep coping and seething lolz.
c7s and gtrs are both ugly as fuck; who cares
>>28104021Nah, you're the one coping little niggersan shill. Nobody defends fake laptimes but you lmao, you went out of your way to point out that porsche and lamborghini lie as well but now you're saying >Not my problem you can't deal with the fact that the car industry already decided testing pre-production models is validAnd using it to cope lmao. Nice flip flop retard.
>>28104030Keep seething and malding at the way the car industry tests cars lol.
>>28104026Quiet down dog, the men are talking.
>>28104033What does any of this have to do with the fact that niggsan used a built to purpose burgerking only nismo cheater car and got a 7:08 in 2013 yet no n-attack package A or B cars can get anywhere close to that since they were released in 2015? Really gets the noggin jogginhttps://www.carthrottle.com/news/bad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lie
>>28104050>used a built to purpose burgerking only nismo cheater carThat was sold to customers in the form of the Kit A N-Attack kit lolz>https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carthrottle.com%2Fnews%2Fbad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lieThat has been deboonked already lolz
>>28104018it was reliable enough to put down a faster lap time around the ring than the GTR lelz.
>>28104052>That was sold to customerswhy can't any of them do 7:08?
>>28104055>C7 z06 lapping the ring faster than 7:08Where is the proofs?
>>28104057Why can't any Aventador SVJs sold to customers do 6:44?
>>28104058>>28104052No production R35 has ever gotten a 7:08 only a modified one, so the r35 is actually is slower than a c7 and a c8. Cope seethe dialte.
>>28104067But GM has never lapped the ring in under 7:08
>>28104058not the Z06, but the ZR1>>28103470>>28104061How come the corvette can get dealer spec civilian plated times but not nigsan?
>>28104068the C7 and C6 recorded faster lap times than 7:08.
>>28104072Where are the proofs?>>28104069>But the ZR1Where are the proofs?>How come the corvette can get dealer spec civilian plated times but not nigsan?It's not Nissan's fault SporAuto can't borrow a Nismo GTR lolz.
>>28104075>Where are the proofs?in the document drawer where nigsan keeps their "all our customer cars are just as capable as our pre production car".
>>28104079>Nissan is lying about the performance of their cars but GM, Porsche, Lamborghini aren't.Lolz
>>28104082correct, GM isn't, because Sport auto got within 3 seconds of their time in the C7 Z06, and got the exact same time as GM did in the C8.meanwhile, this hasn't happened a single time for nigsan.
>>28104082Again and again with the deflection to porsche and lamborghini L0L. Who the fuck is talking about them and why would it matter in this instance at all? We are specfically talking about niggsan cheating not other people cheating
>>28104085>Of their timeGM never released any C7 ring laptimes, retard.
>>28104088then they got within 3 seconds of their "un released time". meanwhile, no one has came close to any of nigsan's times.
>>28104087>Why would it matter?Because the decade long cope retards like you have been overdosing on is utterly irrelevant because it's common practice within the industry. It isn't cheating or lying, it's a bunch of austistic sperg having a meltdown over a car lolz.
>>28104092>Unreleased timeLiterally no such thing exist, GM never made public any laptimes for the c7 or c8 lolz.>meanwhile, no one has came close to any of nigsan's times.>It's Nissan's fault no one has borrowed a Kit A N-Attack to drive around the ringLolz.
>>28104093>It isn't cheating or lying, it's a bunch of austistic sperg having a meltdown over a carisn't that what you're doing about the C7 and C6 being faster while using industry practiced methods?
>>28104096>Literally no such thing exist,so why does fastest lap times, and automotive journalist acknowledge it?>GM never made public any laptimes for the c7 or c8THat's what makes them "unreleased" retardio.>It's Nissan's fault sport auto only test street legal carscorrect.
>modifiedNo production road legal r35s will ever be below a 7:19. The fake 7:08 is only in the non road legal non production and modified sections on both wikipedia and fastlaps lmao. It can't even beat the corvettes little brother the Camaro Zl1e is at 7:16 and niggsan is stuck at 7:19 it loses to the c7/c8/camaro it's the kekold of /o/
>>28104098There aren't any c7 or c6 laps faster than 7:08. Not one test driver in the industry but Jim Mero, that sells "performance upgrades" to boomers, claims that they have set lap times for sports cars that for some reason the manufacturer refuses to release. Jim Mero duping boomers and autists into thinking he set some laptime isn't industry standard, no one does that, it's just marketing for his tuning services.
>>28104103There are no r35s faster than 7:19
>>28104103>There aren't any c7 or c6 laps faster than 7:08.except this>>28103708>no one claims lap times without videoNigsan and Porsche did it.
>>28104102>ModifiedThat has been deboonked>>28104100>fastest lap timesFastest laptimes isn't a reliable source, they do not acknowledge that the Aventador SVJ was pre-production in the same manner as the GTR and that the Huracan Performante and the 992 911 GT3 RS were modified.>And automotive journalist acknowledge it?The auto journal industry is full of shills and autists that can't cope with the facts, hence why this article on carthrottle >>28104050 exists
>>28104109See >>28103741>>28104105https://youtu.be/1VPm3CZiQjc?feature=sharedLolz>Nigsan and Porsche did it.Too bad GM never did, GM never backed up Jim Mero's supposed laptimes.
>>28104111>everyone who acknowledges faster cars is a shill. including you. only you're shilling a slower one.
>>28104120I have provided video evidence of a GTR lapping the ring in 7:08 >>28104119Do the same for a Corvette C7 ZR1 lapping the ring in 7:04>Noooo you just have to trust Jim Mero that for some reason refuses to release video evidence.
>>28104119see>>28103768>Too bad GM never didWho do you think Jim Mero worked for? >GM never backed up Jim Mero's supposed laptimes.Nigsan and Porsche didn't back up any of their own. their word of mouth is no different than his.>also post a video of a car that is slower than both the C6 and C7Lelz
>Non-series/non-road-legal
>>28104123i also have posted evidence of a non production non street legal car lapping the nurburgring>>28103708this one is backed up by racing officials.
>>28104125Jim Mero releasing a compressed .jpg photo with a time written on it in ms paint isn't the same as Porsche and Nissan releasing press kits about setting up a laptime.>Nigsan and Porsche didn't back up any of their own.Nissan backed up the 7:08 laptime, see >>28104119>car that is slower than both the C6 and C7Where is the proofs of this?
No production r35 has ever gone below 7:19
>>28104126>"No road legal">Literal photographic evidence exists that it had license platesLolz.
No production Aventador SVJ has ever gone below 6:44>B-but it's only ...LE BAD!!! when Nissan does it.
>>28104129>its okay if Nigsan and Porsche doesn't provide videos, because they went before the press to tell a more official lie!teehee, you're funny.>Nissan backed up the 7:08 laptimewhere is the production street legal lap time? its slower than the C6.>Where is the proofs of this?in the drawer where nigsan keeps proof that their customer cars can get the same lap times as their non production ones.
>Nigsan and Porsche claim lap times with no video>BUT ITS LE BAD WHEN GM DOES IT
>>28100281well thats dissappointing even my zf6 shitbox has a usable 5th
>>28104134>ProductionNot a requirement as shown by Lamborghini with the Aventador SVJ>Street legalSee >>28104131>in the drawer where nigsan keeps proof that their customer cars can get the same lap times as their non production ones.See >>28104082
You literally cannot buy a r35 from nissan that is capable of going below a 7:19. I can be a trillionaire click every option on my brand new r35 and even if I was speed racer himself I'm stuck at a 7:19
>>28104136GM never claimed set a laptime on the ring with any model of the c7 or c8.They straight up ragequit from setting laptimes lolz.
>>28104140>Not a requirementNeither are videos as shown by Nigsan and Porsche.>See (car with no civilian plates, only "street legal" when tested by nigsan)>See >>28104082see>>28104085
>>28103889>n-attackhaha what does the n stand for
>>28104142That has been deboonked, see >>28103741>>28103716
>>28104143is Jim Mero not from GM, then? guess that makes him even more credible. what about german racing officials that claim the C6 got 7:04, are they from GM? sounds like these cars have independent references for their lap times.
>>28104146where are the videos of these customer spec vehicles lapping in 7:08?
>>28104145It's poetic. No wonder niggersan lies about laptimes and has basketball Americans exclusively driving their versas and altimas
>>28104148No, Jim Mero was actually fired from GM before he decided to release any data kek>what about german racing officials that claim the C6 got 7:04See >>28103741>>28104151Where are the videos for the dozens of Porsches, Lamborghinis, Mercedes-Benzes, Corvettes customer specs matching the laptimes set by the manufacturers?>>28104157>Living in a country with basketball americansNice self-own kek
>>28104157i thought it standed for Hiroshima Niggsaki
I don't think we will ever see a production niggsan lap the ring in under 7:19. Oh well.
>not one of the customers that bought a Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR has managed to lap the ring in 7:08 like Krum and Nissan did... CHECKMATE!Imagine thinking this is a good argument, not one of the many customers of Lamborghini, Porsche, Mercedes or Chevrolet has done the same with 911, Aventadors, Huracans, AMG GT Rs, Corvettes, Camaros, etc.Goes to show how mindbroken by Nissan /o/ still is kek.
I don't think we will ever see a production Aventador SVJ lap the ring in 6:44 Oh well.
>>28104168>>28104170I still don't see a production r35 go past 7:19
>>28104181I still don't see a production Aventador SVJ doing 6:44, a production Huracan Performante doing 6:52, a production 911 GT3 RS doing 6:33, a production C7 ZR1 doing 7:04, etc.
>>28104161>Jim Mero was actually fired from GMHmm, that makes him credible. after all, what does he gain from making GM look like they beat the GTR? other than making taco bell's tacos saltier.>See >>28103741see>>28103768>Where are the videos for Corvettes customer specs matching the laptimes set by the manufacturers?the C8 Z06 by the OP. Sport Auto says it matches GM's time they also set in it.>Living in a country with basketball americansbut you live at Taco Bell.
>>28104168Sport auto has gotten a production dealer spec lap of the C7 and Nigsan and Porsche claimed lap times with no video.
>>28104186there's production footage of both the C7 Z06 and C8 Z06 doing lap times.why does Nigsan and Porsche get to claim videos without lap times, and have them recognized by the public?
>>28104035>ebonicsc7s, c8s, and gtrs are UGLY as FUCK, boy
>GTR 7:19>Camaro 7:16Yet he's talking about corvettes hahahaha
>>28104191Jim Mero sells his own tunning service he sells tunes to Corvette boomer. So of course there is a conflict of interest in him claiming he lapped the ring in X time.>>28103768Deboonked already >the C8 Z06 by the OP. Sport Auto says it matches GM's time they also set in it.Thwrefore we can compare GM set time with Nissan's set time. Nissan set a time of 7:08, GM set a time of 7:10, GTR wins lolz ez tuto gg no re >but you live at Taco Bell.so do you kek.>>28104197>It's Nissan's fault SportAuto can't borrow a Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR>>28104198>there's production footage of both the C7 Z06 and C8 Z06 doing lap times.Don't you mean "footage of both production c7 and c8", you fucking retard?>why does Nigsan and Porsche get to claim videos without lap times,Nissan released a video when they claimed to lap the ring in 7:08
>>28104207>7:16Not street legal lolz
>>28104215>Jim Mero sells his own tunning serviceI don't know what "tunning" means, but the car he drove didn't have it, so how would that advertise any of his services? you think boomers need the nurburgring to tell them to buy a corvette? it already dominated everything in the market in sales. plus, anyone who wants a "tunning" vette will likely go to callaway who specializes in it.>Deboonked already where? did a production GTR get 7:08?>Nissan set a time of 7:08a C6 got 7:04.>It's Nissan's fault SportAuto doesn't test non street legal carscorrect.>Don't you mean "footage of both production c7 and c8", Don't you mean "tuning", you bigger fucking retard?>Nissan released a video when they claimed to lap the ring in 7:08too bad its slower than 7:04 by the C6.
>Nissan (Manufacturer) went to the ring and set a laptime of 7:08>GM (Manufacturer) went to the ring and set a laptime of 7:10There we have it boys, apples to apples comparison. GTR wins again lolz.
>>28104236lets ignore the 7:04 time by both the C6 and C7 for reasons Nigsan themselves considers industry practice.
And yet they're both ugly, slow, and gay. Shoulda got a C5 or C6 Z06.Kek.
>>28104231>I don't know what "tunning" means,Google it noobie.>but the car he drove didn't have it,Proofs? C7s have adjustable magnetic shocks and multiple people, including Jim Mero offer tunes for them.>did a production GTR get 7:08?See >>28104186>a C6 got 7:04.See >>28103741 >correct.How? Nissan isn't related to SportAuto at all.>Don't you mean "tuning", you bigger fucking retard?I am an ESL, you don't have any excuses for typing your own language like a retard, retard.>too bad its slower than 7:04 by the C6.Deboonked already
>>28104238Both of those have already been deboonked.
>>28104249>Jim Mero offer tunes for them.Did the car that he drove on the ring have it? if not, then why would it be an advertisement for him? how would anyone even know since nothing on the car says "TUNED BY JIM MERO". no one associates the nurburgring times with him specifically, and if they did, they'd already be sold on his tunes from the work he did on other vettes. why make up a time about this one specifically? >See >>28104186see>>28104198>How?because its not actually street legal. sport auto won't test non street legal cars on the ring. same reason they didn't test the C7 ZR1 despite testing the C6 ZR1.>I am an ESLMy ESL taco bros don't misspell basic words. you're just a retard calling someone a retard.>Deboonked alreadyincorrect.
>>28104260>no one associates the nurburgring times with him specifically,Yes they do retard, because he is the only person in the world that has released them, these supposed laptimes exists solely because he published them>see>>28104198 See >>28104096>because its not actually street legal. False, see >>28104131>sport auto won't test non street legal cars on the ringAnd? They can borrow this Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR >>28103741 that is seen driving on public roads in that video.>incorrectSee >>28103741
>>28104270Why has no Kit A n-attack ever broken the confirmed highest laptime for the r35 of 7:19? It's been out for 9 years yet the GTRs best laptime is still 7:19.
>>28104277It literally did 10 years ago and /o/ is still seething kek >>28104119
>>28104279What? No. The fastest laptime for a R35 is 7:19. There isn't anything faster than that on any official list.
>>28104284>Any official listSuch as? Neither trannypedia or fastestlaps are official nor reliable sources.
>>28104270>these supposed laptimes exists solely because he published themThat's a different argument than "this lap time only happened because i am an expert tuner and can get the most out of your vette" which would be the only thing that would actually make people want his tuning.>See >>28104096>see>>28104100Sport Auto can't obtain nigsan's dealer plates. so the car wouldn't be street legal under their testing.They can borrow this Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR >>28103741 that is seen driving on public roads in that video.What's legal in the UK isn't legal in Germany. the Radical SR8 that lapped the ring had plates, and drove on the road, but Sport Auto doesn't consider it street legal or TUV approved based on the way it got plates (through Single Vehicle Approval). they don't count loopholes.>See >>28103741see>>28103768
>>28104287Yeah there's no niggersan anywhere to be seen past 7:19. Try again next time. Maybe you can get a NiggerSan-Attack Ass pack nigmo Retard35 and attempt to break the 7:19 record yourself since niggsan won't do it.
>>28104290>this lap time only happened because i am an expert tuner and can get the most out of your vetteThat's why his claims aren't valid, glad you finally understand the obvious conflict of interest here>What's legal in the UK isn't legal in GermanyWrong,first because you can drive a British car on German roads, second because the Corvette that SportAuto tested was a US spec one, that had an American license plate but not the rest of the stickers required to drive in Germany that can't be driven on German roads and third, that's not the only street legal N-Attack GTR in Europe, there is or was one in Switzerland Get deboonked lolz.>see>>28103768 #That has been deboonked lolz
>>28104300>Wikipedia>OfficialLolz, trannypedia isn't a reliable source, it has the pre-production Aventador SVJ in the production section.
>>28100274I can get to Sainsburys faster than that with a grand Piano in the boot and ladders on the roof. Why the fuck would I need one of those.
>s-sportauto can't test a British Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR because it's not street legal!!!Yet it can tes a US plated, US spec, non-street legal C8 z06 with no particulate filter? Kek where do you retards even get your info from? Literally pulling shit out of your ass to cope with the fact the GTR has been living rent free inside your heads for over a decade kek.
>>28104312>That's why his claims aren't validBecause of something he never said and no one thinks? not an argument.>because you can drive a British car on German roadsYou can drive anything registered out of germany on german roads, but that doesn't mean they're TUV approved, which Sport Auto wants before testing on the ring.>second because the Corvette that SportAuto tested was a US spec oneThe Z06 itself is already street legal in germany. but the N attack and SR8 never were.>there is or was one in Switzerland Is there one in germany?>That has been deboonked lolzincorrect.
>>28104336>no one thinks?I do, that's why I want to see a video.>which Sport Auto wants before testing on the ring.Kek no they don't you fucking retard, see>>28104335>The Z06 itself is already street legal in germanyNot the US Spec one, which SportAuto tested>Gtr isn't Wrong, see >>28104131>Is there one in germany?A car doesn't have to be registered in Germany to be driven inside Germany, see image here >>28104312>incorrect.Post a production Aventador SVJ lapping the ring in 6:44 then
>>28104348>I doWhy??? he doesn't even think the car is only fast because of himself.>Kek no they don't They clearly do, or they would've tested the C7 ZR1. which isn't street legal in any spec.>Not the US Spec oneSo a street legal variant exist for germany, but not for any N attack or SR8 Radical.>A car doesn't have to be registered in Germany to be driven inside GermanyBut it needs a TUV approved model.>Post a production Aventador SVJI will when you post video footage of Nigsan and Porsche lap times that are accepted as legitimate by the press.
>>28100274crazy how americans destroy the euros at their own track.There's literally not single street legal production car on the list that can lap faster for less :)
>>28104354Because he is a salesman>They clearly doThen how come they tested a US spec C8 z06?>So a street legal variant exist for germanyAnd? That's literally fucking irrelevant you fucking retard. They tested a US spec, that isn't legal in Europe, the Kit A N-Attack is because countries Europe share emissions regulations if I am not mistaken.>But it needs a TUV approved model.No it doesn't retard.>I will when you post video footage of Nigsan and Porsche lap times that are accepted as legitimate by the press.The press is biased and non-objective, their opinion is irrelevant
>>28104382>Because he is a salesmanWithout doing any sales pitch?>Then how come they tested a US spec C8 z06?Cause there's a TUV approved one.>That's literally fucking irrelevant No it isn't. stay asshurt, holy shit.>No it doesn't retard.Yes it does, retard.>The press is biased and non-objectivebut that's what you are.
>>28104370You do realise that track racing is not what cars are for, in fact cars that go fast on a track are a thing that is not compatible with driving in Europe.Stick to your roads and we'll stick to our town centres.
>>28104399That's not a very well thought out excuse. There are far more european automakers specializing in track focused performance models but they're just a poor value.z06 is a mid trim sports car that slaughters literally everything european (and japanese) in its price range.zr1 soon :)
>>28104392>Without doing any sales pitch?Except he does that>Cause there's a TUV approved one.And? that doesn't make the US Spec street legal for any period of time but 6 months given to tourists, the same permission can be given to an UK registered Kit A N-Attack, which means SportAuto can borrow it for a test, your argument is stupid, you are wrong and retarded. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAGerman/comments/1e4fsu2/comment/ldeqpkc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button>No it isn't. stay asshurt, holy shit.yes it is you fucking retard, read German law.>Yes it does, retard.No it doesn't you fucking retard, a car must only comply with the TUV if you intend to plate is as a German car. https://de.usembassy.gov/driving-in-germany/If you are going to drive it for 6 months as a tourist, as I previously shown can be done, it doesn't fucking matter if the car you will be driving has a TUV approved model.Not like any of this matters because the GTR Nismo is TUV approved, so again your argument is irrelevant, you are wrong and retarded.>but that's what you are.Except I am not, you don't see me coming with age long copes about the GTR Nismo being slower than 911s or AMG GT Rs because Porsche and Mercedes actually did lap the ring faster, nor you see me comparing race cars to production cars like you do.Keep coping and malding retard.
>>28105314>Except he does that Where?>that doesn't make the US Spec street legal for any period of time but 6 months given to touristsSo not only is the car street legal, but the Z06 itself is. where as the N attack isn't.>which means SportAuto can borrow it for a test,And they aren't going to because the N attack was never street legal. they only test street legal models. which is why they never tested the ZR1 or ZL1 1LE.>yes it is No, it isn't.>read German law.I already told you why they're never going to test a ZR1/1LE/N attack on the ring. stay retarded.>No it doesn'tYea it does.>a car must only comply with the TUV if you intend to plate is as a German car. and Sport Auto will only test cars that can comply with TUV. they don't give a shit if the car can be legally driven on the road or not.>If you are going to drive it for 6 months as a touristIrrelevant, see above.>Except I am not,You are. Non video laps are an industry standard, you post them yourself, and Nigsan and Porsche have done them.>you don't see me coming with age long copesYou've been doing that to ignore both the C6 and C7 being faster the entire thread, with stupidly dubious reasoning.>911s or AMG GT Rs because Porsche and Mercedes actually did lap the ring fasterSo did the C6 and C7>nor you see me comparing race cars to production cars like you do.the N attack that did 7:08 isn't production.
>"nor you see me comparing race cars to production cars like you do">*proceeds to compare the M4 GT4 to the Camaro and ZR1*what a fucking bold face lying turd, lmao.
>>28105438>Where?in his facebook page>So not only is the car street legal, but the Z06 itself is. where as the N attack isn't.The British Kit A N-Attack is street legal on the basis that the US Spec C8 z06 is, because they are both subject to the same regulations in case the owner decides to import it as a tourist something SportAuto most likely does, What exact German law are you quoting that states that the US Spec C8 Z06 is street legal but somehow that same law wouldn't make the British N-Attack strret legal?https://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Entering-Germany/Duties-and-taxes/Temporary-importation-of-a-vehicle/temporary-importation-of-a-vehicle_node.html>If you are normally resident outside the EU, you may import your non-EU registered vehicle under relief and use it in Germany. The period during which the vehicle may be used is limited to six months.SportAuto could import the British N-Attack and test it, I literally quoted the German law but since you are a fucking retard you literally can't comprehend such a simple concept.>And they aren't going to because the N attack was never street legal.Yes it is you fucking retard, I already gave you:1.- A street legal Kit-A N-Attack GTR Nismo in the UK2.- German regulation that states that a tourist could import that Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo and drive it inside Germany for up to 6 months, which is enough time for Sport Auto to test it, this is likely a similar procedure to what SportAuto did with the US Spec C8 z06I am not even going to bother reading the rest of your autistic meltdown until you get these simple concepst inside your tiny pea brain, let me repeat:1.- A street legal, registered, insured, Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo exists in the UK2.- SportAuto could borrow this street legal, registered, insured Kit A N-Attack and drive it for up to 6 months inside Germany, which is time enopugh to test it on the Nurburgring.
>>28105446But I thought SportAuto only tested street legal cars, which one is it?
>>28105517>facebook pageSo not mentioned anywhere in conjunction with the lap time leaks? so not relevant. >The British Kit A N-Attack is street legal on the basis that the US Spec C8 z06 isExcept no street legal N attack model exist. the C8 can be registered in germany with civilian plates. you don't need to get by on a six month visit. what part of this don't you understand?>What exact German law are you quoting that states that the US Spec C8 Z06 is street legal but somehow that same law wouldn't make the British N-Attack strret legal?The one where a C8 Z06 can be registered in germany. i'm not talking about a import visit or the car being registered somewhere else. we've already had this discussion with the Radical SR8. it was also legal to drive on the road based on where it was registered and visitation. the car itself does not comply with german law, and it can't be registered there.>SportAuto could import the British N-Attack and test it, They aren't going to do that for the same fucking reason they're never going to test a Radical either. god fucking damn you're dumb.>Yes it is No its not. not TUV approved, not able to be registered in germany, not going to be tested by sport auto. >A street legal Kit-A N-Attack GTR Nismo in the UKNotice how the UK isn't in germany.>German regulation that states that a tourist could import that Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo and drive it inside Germany for up to 6 monthsYes, the radical did exactly this, but the car can't be registered in germany. its not TUV approved. so they aren't going to test it.>I am not even going to bother reading the rest Nice dodging of your own bullshit.Lets summarize:The N attack GT-R that did 7:08 is not productionNone of the production cars ever achieved 7:08The C6 and C7 did faster lap times.Porsche and Nissan did laps of the ring with no video footage and this was widely accepted by everyone.You compare race cars to production car and post ring times without video.
>>28105520they won't test them on the ring. hence why the didn't do the C7 ZR1 despite having it, and the ZL1 1LE.
>>28105536BODIED
>>28105536>Except no street legal N attack model exist.I already posted a video of a British one, let me post it again because apparently you're not only fucking retarded but also have the memory of a 2 year oldhttps://youtu.be/G9poQEp_9bQ?feature=shared>The one where a C8 Z06 can be registered in germany.You can't register a US spec c8 z06 because it doesn't comply with Euroe 6b emission regulations.https://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners.You need to pass emission regulations to be able to register a US importhttps://es.ecarstrade.com/blog/how-to-import-a-car-to-germany>Emissions standards: The vehicle should meet the current emissions standards in Germany, such as Euro 6 for newer cars.You are a retard, it's this plain and simple, nmext time you look yourself at the mirror, I want you to realize you are looking at a stupid person. You are dumbd, you aren't a smart person, you are just incoherently babbling like a retard because you can't accept the simple fact that SportAuto can borrow this British GTR and test it on the Nordschleife, which makes the entire argument you've been trying to push for the past 12 hours comepletly irrelevant.The C8 z06 that SportAuto tested isn't street legal in Germany because it won't pass emissions, so it was imported on a temporary permit, which is the same permit that Sportauto would need to import the street legal, registered, insured, Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo that exists in the UKYour entire argument regarding SportAuto only testing street legal cars and Sport Auto not being able to test a Kit A N-Attack GTR is fucking stupid, wrong and irrelevant.I won't bother with the rest of your autismal spergout until you accept this fact.
>>28105636>doesn't label the Huracan Performante or the 911 GT3 Rs as modifiedNot a reliable source lolz>>28105537>they won't test them on the ring. Yes they will, they tested a US Spec c8 z06, which is not street legal because it doesn't pass Euro 6 emissionshttps://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners.retard
>>28105678>I already posted a video of a British onePost a german one. you know, where the nurburgring actually is.>You can't register a US spec c8 z06 There exist a Z06 that can be registered. where's the N attack that can?>SportAuto can borrow this British GTRWhy does SportAuto have to borrow it? Nigsan can test a post production one themselves.>which makes the entire argument you've been trying to push for the past 12 hours comepletly irrelevant.No it doesn't? my argument is that the C6 and C7 ZR1 don't need videos because non video laps are a standard accepted by the industry, and yourself. all of this other shit is just a tangent that distracts from the fact that the C6 and C7 are faster. i noticed you stop denying this.>Yes they willSo where are they? where is the test of the M4 GT4? >they tested a US Spec c8 z06A C8 Z06 has been homologated in europe and TUV approved. a Radical SR8, N attack, and an M4 GT4 has not.
>>28105720>Post a german one. you know, where the nurburgring actually isSportAuto can borrow the British GTR and test it just like they tested a US Spec C8 z06>There exist a Z06 that can be registered.Literally fucking irrelevant, the c8 z06 that can be registered in Germany makes less power and torque and has the Stingray rear bumper and diffuser, it is a different car, the car that Sport Auto tested isn't street legal in Germany because it doesn't have the particulate filter that is necessary to pass emissions>Why does SportAuto have to borrow it?You are the one claiming only third party magazines tests are valid, Nissan already lapped the ring with a Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR in 7:08>No it doesn't? my argument is that the C6 and C7 ZR1 don't need videos because non video laps are a standard accepted by the industryNo one in the industry compares modified race cars to production cars in the case of the c6 and GM never released any official laptimes for the c7 zr1>So where are they?In the OP you fucking retard? lol>A C8 Z06 has been homologated in europe and TUV approved.Not the Us Spec one, which is the one Sport Auto testedhttps://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners.The C8 z06 that SportAuto tested ISN'T HOMOLOGATED FOR EUROPE AND IS NOT TUV APPROVED lolzFucking retard lmao.
wonder how long we can keep him seething Lol
There will never be a production GTR that laps the ring faster than 7:19 the GTR has always been slower than the Z06 and ZR1
>Poorezo literally begging for my attention because I haven't given him any in this threadtop kek
>>28105750>p_gave_me_a_complex.pngLol Lol Lol
>pls pls give me attention like you used to daddy!
>>28105729>SportAuto can borrow the British GTR and test itThey don't test non TUV approved models. so they won't.>Literally fucking irrelevantApparently it isn't to sport auto, cause they aren't testing your kit car, your race car, or your non production car. they aren't testing the C7 ZR1 or even the ZL1 1LE, either.>You are the one claiming only third party magazinesWhere? i said the GT-R isn't production, and that production corvette test exist. the third party test is just a bonus. it means its free from GM's tweaking and that its a time anyone can go out and get themselves.>Nissan already lapped the ring with a Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTRWhich isn't production.>No one in the industry compares modified race cars to production carsYea, you're right. that's why the industry list the N attack as "modified" "non production" and "not street legal" KEK!>never released any official laptimes for the c7 zr1So you're denying one non video lap time over another based on it arbitrarily being "official", and you're throwing a tantrum because sport auto won't test cars that don't have TUV approved models? >in the OPthat doesn't look like an M4 GT4 to me.>Not the Us Spec oneThe US spec one isn't a different model. they're both production Z06s. unlike the N-attack that did 7:08.>The C8 z06 that SportAuto tested ISN'T HOMOLOGATED FOR EUROPEThe C8 z06 itself is, unlike the N attack, RETARD!
>>28105782>They don't test non TUV approved models.They tested a US spec c8 z06 that won't pass Euro emissions https://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners.>The US spec one isn't a different model.You are fucking retardedhttps://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>the 2023 Corvette Z06 produces 670 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque for the North American market. To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners. In the process, output from the 5.5-liter DOHC engine falls to 636 hp and 439 lb-ft of torque.fucking retard lmao, imagine being so fucking retarded you can't comprehend this paragraph
>>28105741this. regardless of anything else, the Corvette has been faster than the GTR since the C5, carried on by the C6, then the C7.there is no denying this. regardless of Sport Auto.
perforated boot comin' thru
>>the Corvette has been faster than the GTR">can't lap the ring in under 7:08
>>28105791Still no existing TUV approved N attack. you're still retarded and don't understand this.The US Spec one is not a different model. they're both Z06s. stay fucking retarded.
>>28105804except it did.
>>28105805>Still no existing TUV approved N attack.So now it's Nissan's fault no German has ever bought a GTR N-Attack Kit A? Nissan offered the N-Attack package in germany which meant it was TUV approved.>and don't understand this.I've literally never stated there is a street legal, German registered N-Attack GTR other than pic rel, which was a preproduction model, however, being a pre-production model isn't a relevant reason to disregard a laptime because Lamborghini lapped the ring with a pre-production Aventador, which can be seen found both in the production laptime table of wikipedia and in fastestlaps without being labeled as modified, it's just bias against Nissan.>The US Spec one is not a different model.https://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>the 2023 Corvette Z06 produces 670 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque for the North American market. To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners. In the process, output from the 5.5-liter DOHC engine falls to 636 hp and 439 lb-ft of torque.the US Spec makes about 40 hp and 20 punds feet more than the Euro one you fucking stooooooopid, plus it has a different rear bumper and diffuser which means it has a different aeordynamic profile.Holy shit imagine being illiterate, you are literally too stupid to read simple english lmao.
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>>28105825kek, meant to post this image
>>28105825>Nissan offered the N-Attack package in germany which meant it was TUV approved.Radical also offers cars in germany. that doesn't make them TUV approved.>being a pre-production model isn't a relevant reason to disregard a laptime I'm not disregarding it, it exist, but so does the C6 and C7's lap time. it not being "official" doesn't mean they don't exist.>the US Spec vs the EU specThey're still both Z06s. the Z06 has been TUV approved, the N attack hasn't.>>28105827look on fastest laps. they even link to it.
>>28105864>Radical also offers cars in germany. that doesn't make them TUV approved.Radicals aren't Nissans>but so does the C6 and C7's lap time.>c6race car>c7where is the proofs?>They're still both Z06s. the Z06 has been TUV approved,https://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>the 2023 Corvette Z06 produces 670 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque for the North American market. To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners. In the process, output from the 5.5-liter DOHC engine falls to 636 hp and 439 lb-ft of torque.beyond fucking retarded lmao> the N attack hasn't.The N-attack Kit A and the regular Nismo GTR are still both GTRs, so according to your own logic, the N-attack is TUV approved because the regular Nismo is. Fucking retard, do you even think through before posting stupid shit like that? Do you realize your retarded arguments always keep backfiring at you because they are fucking stupid or are you also too stupid to realize this?>fastest laps.see >>28105681
7:04
>>28105886>Radicals aren't Nissansokay, so where is the proof that an N attack has been TUV approved or registered in germany?>c6>race carYea, its non production like the N attack.>where is the proofs?fastest laps, road and track interview of jim mero, etc.>beyond fucking retarded lmaoyea, you are. but i still kinda like your tacos in a tsundere way.>The N-attack Kit A and the regular Nismo GTR are still both GTRThis is clearly a false equivalent, otherwise Sport Auto would've tested the N attack. same for the C7 ZR1 and ZL1 1LE.>your retarded arguments always keep backfiring at younot really. i mean, at the end of the day. the C6 and C7 are both still faster than the GTR. that argument has pretty much been done. also your whole shit about the C6 not being production and the C7 not having video also backfires on you, even when following the same logic with sport auto. a non video lapped is not proof but a non video lap that is "official" is?Stoopid taco.
>>28105911>okay, so where is the proof that an N attack has been TUV approved or registered in germany?Where is the proof an US Spec c8 z06 has been TUV approved or registered in germany?>Yea, its non production like the N attack.race cars are modified production cars, nor pre-production models that match the specs of production cars, retard.>yea, you areAll your arguments ITT have backfired at you, this has been the worst GTR vs Corvette thread I've had the displeasure of participating in.>This is clearly a false equivalent,Says the retard that typed "They're still both Z06s. the Z06 has been TUV approved," here >>28105864 despite the fact that US Spec C8 z06 aren't TUV approved>the C6 and C7 are both still faster than the GTR. tsee >>28105886>a non video lapped is not proof but a non video lap that is "official" is?yes, GM has never released any c7 laptimes, i'm not trusting a boomer that obviously record his laptimes and has telemetry data but somehow refuses to release the video.
>>28106537A Z06 has been TUV approved for germany. where is the TUV approved N attack?>pre-production models that match the specs of production carsWhere is the proofs that the non production N attack matches the specs of the ones sold to customers?>All your arguments ITT have backfired at you,The C6 and C7 are faster than the GTR. your reasoning for not acknowledging this is dubious at best.>They're still both Z06s. the Z06 has been TUV approved,They are,and it is. that's why the Z06 has been tested by sport auto, and the C7 ZR1 and ZL1 1LE and N attack have not. they have no TUV approved variants. i'm sorry you're still too dumb to understand this.>see >>28105886I don't see anything that addresses the C6 and C7 being faster in that post.>yesSo your logic is no better than why Sport Auto tested a US Spec Z06. good to know.>i'm not trusting a boomer that obviously record his laptimes and has telemetry data but somehow refuses to release the videoYet you obviously trust nigsan when they do it.
>>28106959>A Z06 has been TUV approved for germany.The US Spec c8 z06, which SportAuto tested in the OP, isn't TUV approved, this means SportAuto can test non-street legal cars on the ring, which means they can borrow the British Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo I previously posted and test it, even if it were not to pass TUV testing. It isn't Nissan's fault SportAuto can't borrow a Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo.There isn't a single TUV Approved Corvette has has managed to lap the nordschleife faster than the GTR Nismo, which is TUV approved as the pro-production models drove in German roads, pic rel, and because Nissan offered the N-Attack package to customers in Europe via RJN Motorsport, which means the N-Attack package was previously approved by the EU authorities to be sold to customers inside the EU and both Germany and the UK were part of the Eurozone when the N-attack package was made avaliable to customers. A German citizen would therefore buy a GTR Nismo and get the package installed by RJN Motorsport in a similar manner to Manthey Racing installing a Manthey Performance Kit on a 911. Not like any of this matters because British residents can drive their cars in Germany, Which means the British Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo I previously posted was street legal in Germany when the N-attack package was avaliable to EU customers.>Where is the proofs that the non production N attack matches the specs of the ones sold to customers?Where is the proofs the Aventador SVJ matches the specs of the ones sold to customers? >The C6 and C7 are faster than the GTR.see >>28105886 >I don't see anything that addressesskill issue
>>28107368>So your logicJim Mero is selling his own MRC upgrades. In the 'About' page of his website https://jimmero.com/about-jim/#, he has multiple paragraphs selling his MRC tunes. The only "evidence" of a C7 lapping the nordschleife in 7:04 is a small image with text written on top, there is no video of it. GM has never made any press release with this number unlike Porsche and Nissan. It's industry standard for cars manufacturers to make an official press release with a laptime even if it has no video, GM never released such thing for the C7 generation of Corvettes. On the contrary, lying and cheating is industry standard for American boomers involved in the car industry Hennessey, Shelby and SSChttps://jalopnik.com/ex-employees-say-hennessey-is-a-bigger-mess-than-you-ev-1778134112https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2107521/viper-specialist-john-hennessey-his-cylinder-heads-problems/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra#Counterfeit_Cobrashttps://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a37102344/ssc-tuatara-speed-record-debunked/When Jim Mero releases a video, then the laptime will be deemed as real, meanwhile, it could be another case of a boomer lying to make money. The 7:04 laptime being in fasteslaps is irrelevant because fastestlaps isn't a reliable source.
>>28107370If a manufacturer uses a pre-production model to test and gather performance data, then the production spec model will match this performance numbers, because a manufacturer can't magically make a car faster without having to develop an entire new track package and get it TUV approved (as that was the case with both the Kit A and Kit B N-Attack packages for the GTR Nismo, that can be seen driving on public roads, pic rel).The List of Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times article in wikipedia labels the GTR as non-production, yet it has the time set by the pre-production Aventador SVJ in the production section. The list of Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times in Fastestlaps labels the GTR Nismo as modified, yet it doesn't label other modified cars like the Aventador SVJ, the Huracán Perormante, the Dodge Viper ACR, in the same manner.You are literally braindead if you cannot understand this
>>28107371kek, posted the wrong pic
One last thing> they have no TUV approved variantsThe GTR Nismo has a TUV approved variant, pic related.>but that's slower because it doesn't have the Kit A N-Attack packagethe Euro-spec, TUV approved c8 z06 is slower than the US spec z06, it makes less power because it doesn't have the same exhaust and rear diffuser. https://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/>To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners. In the process, output from the 5.5-liter DOHC engine falls to 636 hp and 439 lb-ft of torqueIf the US spec c8 z06 is "legal" because there is a TUV approved EU spec c8 z06, then the Kit A N-Attack is street legal because there is a TUV approved Eu spec GTR NismoCongrats again you fucking retard, all your retarded arguments have been deboonked again, better luck next time. I know you will mald and seethe incredibly hard after you read these walls of text, but before your autism and butthurt force you to come up with whatever retarded bullshit you diminute pea brain think twice before it ends up backfiring and defeating itself, retard.
>>28107368>The US Spec c8 z06, which SportAuto tested in the OPThe Z06 itself is, there are no TUV N attack models, so Sport Auto will never test it.>It isn't Nissan's fault SportAuto can't borrow a Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo.Its not Jim Mero's fault that he doesn't own the rights to the video that GM doesn't want him to release.>There isn't a single TUV Approved Corvette has has managed to lap the nordschleife faster than the GTR Nismo,There isn't a TUV approved N attack to begin with.>which is TUV approved as the pro-production models drove in German roadsThis isn't proof of being TUV approved, the Radical, and the C8 Z06/ZR1/ZL1 1LE can all do this.>pic rel,>a car with dealer plates>and because Nissan offered the N-Attack package to customers in Europe via RJN Motorsport, which means the N-Attack package was previously approved by the EU authorities to be sold to customers inside the EU and both Germany and the UK were part of the EurozoneRadical did the same thing, again, doesn't mean its TUV approved. >similar manner to Manthey Racing installing a Manthey Performance Kit on a 911. The 911 was never said to be non road legal.>Where is the proofs the Aventador SVJ matches the specs of the ones sold to customers?There are none, but there is with the Corvette.>see >>28105886already deboonked, and dubious.
>>28107370>Jim Mero is selling his own MRC upgradesDoes he mention this in conjunction with the lap time? if not, then he isn't using the lap times to advertise his services, and even if he was, people would already be sold on them from his work he did with the C6, so it wouldn't make any difference to the boomers who already like him.>The only "evidence" of a C7 lapping the nordschleife in 7:04 is a small image with text written on top, there is no video of it.Irrelevant. there are tons of lap times with no video. including the R34 Skyline's lap that you keep posted.>GM has never made any press releaseEven with a press release, it doesn't provide any more evidence than without.>It's industry standard for cars manufacturers to make an official press releaseJim Mero made his own. he's been interviewed by Road and Track. part of the industry.>lying and cheating is industry standard for American boomers So is Nigsan and VAG. VAG lying about their emissions and Nigsan CEOs stealing from the company.>When Jim Mero releases a video, then the laptime will be deemed as realThey already are, they're listed on fastest laps. and the press acknowledges the lap times happened.>The 7:04 laptime being in fasteslaps is irrelevantcope
>>28107545>The Z06 itself isThe GTR Nismo itself is lolz pic relgg no re you fucking retard, none of your retarded arguments make sense git fucking gud retard
>>28107371>If a manufacturer uses a pre-production model to test and gather performance data, then the production spec model will match this performance numbersProof?>because a manufacturer can't magically make a car faster Yea they can, just crank up the boost. turbo cars are easier to fudge numbers with than NA ones.>>28107374>more dealer plates>>28107386>The GTR Nismo has a TUV approved variantIt does, but the N attack and nismo are different models. two Z06s of different countries are not, just like two nismos of different countries wouldn't be, either. so Sport Auto could test the regular nismo, but they wont test the N attack.>If the US spec c8 z06 is "legal" Never said this, but Sport auto isn't going to test it without a TUV approved variant, which the N attack doesn't have.>all your retarded arguments have been deboonked againNo, they haven't. you repeated a lot of the same shit we've already gone over and still come up with arbitrary reasons to deny one lap time without video over another. you still post lap times without videos, and even without press releases, so its still a bad faith argument. the C6 Z06 and C7 ZR1 are faster. get over it.
>>28107555Sorry, can't hear you over the 7:04 being faster than 7:08.
>>28107562Whats at 7:08? Only McLarens are at 7:08 niggsans best time is a 7:19 kek
>two Z06s of different countries are not, kek, imagine being literally this fucking stupid https://www.motor1.com/news/656076/euro-spec-corvette-z06-less-power-accelerate/> the 2023 Corvette Z06 produces 670 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque for the North American market. To meet European regulations, a gas particulate filter is added which requires a redesigned exhaust system, hence why these cars lose the center-mount pipes for Stingray-style finishers at the corners. In the process, output from the 5.5-liter DOHC engine falls to 636 hp and 439 lb-ft of torqueThis fucking retard can't comprehend this paragraph kek
>>28107773the Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo is still a GTR Nismo
>>28107785That didn't exist back in 2013 nor is it the claimed setup, the fake lap was done in 2013 the kit a was announced in 2014 and didn't come out until 2015. Why hasn't there been a 7:08' since the kit launched or any official time thats come close to the known modified fake time?https://www.carthrottle.com/news/bad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lie
>>28107816those arguments have already been deboonked.>trannythrottlenot a reliable source.
>>28107817None of its been debunked you retarded monkey. It's 2024 and we've yet to see any production N-attacks go faster than a 7:19. Remember the N-attack didn't exist in 2013, that was just a built to purpose cheater car by niggsan to set a record while they lied about it being a production nismo.
>>28100274>Corvette/trashbin>stickin with Blackwing
>>28107826I already did here, not my problem you are retarded >>28107368>>28107370>>28107371>>28107386
>>28107779this fucking retard is still seething at why sport auto won't test his shitbox that doesn't have a TUV approved variant lol.
>>28107896You don't refute anything you get backed into a corner and start to bitch about porsche and lamborghini also cheating which doesn't mean shit when we are talking about the GTR and the Corvette since only Niggersan cheated lmao. There was no N-attack in 2013, that came out in 2015 and wasn't even announced until a full year after the fraudulent lap-time in 2014. If you had a brain you'd realize this automatically proves Niggersan was full of shit because they claimed the 2013 fake time was done with a production Nismo. Key word production moron. How the fuck was it a production nismo when the N-attack didn't exist until a full 2 years later and they never referred to the 2013 lap as a n-attack themselves when they set it, they advertised it as a time you could attain with a PRODUCTION NISMO IN 2013. You're so fucking retarded it's insane. You can debunk niggersan with basic use of a calendar kek.
>息ができない
Fellas, fellas. The only thing we need to agree on is that the Huracan Performante time is faker than both.
>>28107947>seething at autosportI don't care about AutoSport lolz>>28108005>Nissan cheatedAccording to who?>porsche and lamborghini cheating doesn't mean shitSo testing a pre-production model before it's official release is only bad when Nissan does it? Because Lamborghini lapped the ring with a pre-production model of the Aventador SVJ in March of 2018 despite the fact that they released it in August of 2018 and yet nobody is seething at Lamborghini for doing that lolzhttps://www.carandbike.com/news/lamborghini-aventador-svj-spotted-testing-at-nurburgring-1836215>Aventador SVJ Spotted At Nurburgring in March of 2018https://www.lamborghini.com/fr-en/nouvelles/aventador-svj-sets-nurburgring-lap-record-ahead-its-unveiling>unveiled in August 2018>There was no N-attack in 2013, that came out in 2015That's wrong retard, Nissan announced the N-Attack in a press release in November 2013 and it was offered for sale in 2014 lolz https://gtr-registry.com/en-r35-nismo.php#NismoMY15AnnouncementPressRelease>November 2013>The Nissan GT-R Nismo will be available in Japan in late February 2014, U.S. and Europe later in 2014.>they claimed the 2013 fake time was done with a production Nismo.>N-attack didn't exist until a full 2 years laterWrong again you fucking retard. They mentioned that the laptime was set with an optional track package in the original 2013 press release and they offered the Kit A and Kit B N-Attack Package in 2014https://gtr-registry.com/en-r35-nismo.php#NismoMY15AnnouncementPressRelease>"With a 7:08.679 lap time, we can authoritatively say that the Nissan GT-R Nismo*2>*2: Nissan GT-R Nismo with track optionshttps://www.gtrlife.com/threads/gtr-nismo-n-attack-package-official-info-pricing.103074/>Jul 24, 2014>they never referred to the 2013 lap as a n-attack themselves when they set itYes they did you fucking retard, see above.>with basic use of a calendar kek.Follow your own advice you fucking retard lolz
>>28108450And before your autism and butthurt forces you to overdose on the decade long cope of the N-attack being a 3rd party installed track package, remember that Porsche does the same with the Manthey Performance Kit.https://dealer.porsche.com/ca/langley/en-CA/Manthey-Performance-Kit>The Manthey Performance Kits are only available through and must be installed by a Manthey-Certified Porsche Center.Is offering a 3rd party installed OEM track package bad only when Nissan does it? >"b-but I don't care about Lamborghini or Porsche!!!"and I don't care about you lolz
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>>28108450None of your links show a n-attack or any version of it existing in 2013 nor does it show any n-attack breaking the current best GTR laptime of 7:19. Infact it just backs up what I was saying of the announcements of the N-attack in 2014 for the 2015 release kek. I accept your concession, it really explains why no n-attack post official release has ever gone past 7:19 niggsan is too embarassed.
>>28108517>Infact it just backs up what I was saying of the announcements of the N-attack in 2014 for the 2015 release kek.kek, this fucking retard can't fucking use a calendar
>"US spec C8 z06 and EU spec c8 z06 are the same!"I post a link showing they aren't>"Nissan didn't release the GTR Nismo and didn't announced the N-Attack in 2013!"I post a link showing they did>"Nissan didn't offer the GTR Nismo and the optional N-Attack package in 20114!"I post a link showing they didWhy do you retards even try?
imagine being so rustled the gtr is slower than the corvette that you have a decade long woman moment
>>28108564What the fuck are you talking about lmao, your links are of the announcement even in the announcement it states that the Kit A parts won't be available to be ordered until autumn 2014 >ORDEREDIn that other stupid ass link they falsely state the regular nismo is the one that got the 7:08, i guess they didn't get the memo it was modified kek, there is also no mention of the N-attack or Kit A or bucket seats for that 2015 nismo brochure it talks about normal recaros. So other anons don't gotta waste their time with your gay ass links I have it compiled in an image >lapped the ring 2013 in a cheater car, gets called out by everyone >announces the N-attack in 2014>isn't stated to be available until Q4 2014>Your 2014 brochure for the American release doesn't even have the N-attack as an option and doesn't even mention it just the regular nismo>they didnt get the memo the 2013 time was faked lmao and said the normal nismo did the lap lmaoAgain your can easily debunk Niggersan with a calendar there was no N-attack in 2013 and no laptimes after the N-attack fully launched in 2015 to prove the 2013 time was even possible. All of its highlighted above kek.
>>28101518ZR1 is the GT3 competitor imo.
>>28108922>that the Kit A parts won't be available to be ordered until autumn 20142014 isn't 2015, you stated here that the N-Attack came out in 2015 >>28108005>There was no N-attack in 2013, that came out in 2015The N-Attack came out in July 20214, a couple of months after they announced it in a press release in November 2013, https://gtr-registry.com/en-r35-nismo.php#NismoMY15AnnouncementPressRelease>GTR Nismo press release dated November 2013>GT-R Nismo available in Japan in February 2014Which is just like GM, Porsche and every other manufacturer do:https://media.gm.com/media/intl/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/intl/en/2024/chevrolet/0725-zr1.html>C8 ZR1 press release dated 2024-07-26>Corvette ZR1 will enter production in 2025https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressResources.nsf/Content?ReadForm&languageversionid=1630083&hl=modelle-911-911_gt3>992 GT3 ress release dated 2024/10/18> are expected to reach US Porsche Centers in Summer, 2025So we are back again at the same age old cope argument of "It's only bad when Nissan does it!!!!" Basically you are a fucking retard that doesn't understand how the car industry works lolz. .
>>28109169>they falsely state the regular nismo is the one that got 7:08Wrong again you fucking retard lol, in the original 2013 press release, which I posted above, they stated that the 7:08 laptime was done with an optional track pack, let me highlight it for oyu because apparently not only are you too stupid to use a calendar, you can't even understand a text in simple english lolz>lapped the ring 2013 in a cheater carPress release in 2013 lolz>gets called out by everyonecitation needed>announces the N-attack in 2014Just like GM announcing the ZR1 c8 and Porsche announcing the 992 GT3 a year before production lolz>isn't stated to be available until Q4 2014So it was avaliable the same year it was announced? That would make Nissan better than GM or Porsche than announce models a year before they are on sale according to your own logic lolz>2014 brochure for the American release doesn't even have the N-attack as an option and doesn't even mention it just the regular nismoAnd? the 2014 brochure for the American release was released before they released the N-Attack track package, Just like how Porsche release the Manthey Performance Kit after they released the GT2, GT3 and GT4 models.>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!lolz>they didnt get the memo the 2013 time was faked*citation needed*>said the normal nismo did the lap lmaoNope, the 2013 press release states it was done with an optional track package>there was no N-attack in 2013Irrelevant, There is no c8 ZR1 in 2024 despite already being announced>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!lolz>and no laptimes after the N-attack fully launched in 2015Irrelevant, there are no laptimes of the Aventador SVJ after it fully launched in August 2018>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!lol>All of its highlighted above kek.kek, this retard doesn't know what the term Model Year means lolAgain Why do you retards even try? You are fucking retarded and got deboonked again lol
>>28108901>Daddy S/o/viet give me attention too pls!here bby get angry at pic related lolz
So as a yurobean I’ve never seen a vette irl before. How big (or small) are they? Is getting in and out a pain in the ass for tall people?
>>28109173that’s the most ChatGPT post I’ve seen all month
>>28109169>>28109173Way to miss the elephant in the room kek, how can it be the fastest volume production car if it's not in production? And wouldn't be available to order for consumers until Q4 2014 or as an option for 2015 nismos or newer. That's the crux of the entire fucking argument lmao. They were so full of shit that even in your image it just says >track options Hahaha there's a reason why we've never seen a production Nismo get past 7:19 and the modified one in 2013 is in the non-production section. There has yet to date been any official N-attack to ever get past 7:19 on any official test whereas corvettes are always verified by manufacturers and third party tests simultaneously. Niggsan can't reproduce that 7:08 because that car wasnt a N-attack it was a car specifically designed for the nurburing and not a production spec https://www.carthrottle.com/news/bad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lie
>>28100274>I though this car was supposed to be a GT3 RS competitorhahahahaahahahahahahahaha, it's the GT2 RS you have to beat btw
>>28109181so you say that my car also can achieve those times with a pro driver if it has around just 500 hp on 1500 kg curb weight? Even if it's a FWD?
>>28109195>how can it be the fastest volume production car if it's not in production?The GTR Nismo with the optional kit A N-Attack pack is a volume production car on the basis that it is a Nissan GTR, retard. Is the 911 GT2 RS with the Manthey Performance Kit not a volume production? Is it not a Porsche 911? Is the Aventador SVJ not production?What's next? A XSE v6 Camry is not a volume production car because the guy who bought it decided to tick a couple of extra boxes when ordering it? lolz>And wouldn't be available to order for consumers until Q4 2014 or as an option for 2015 nismos or newer.And? that's literally irrelevant because it's the same case for multiple other manufacturers like Porsche and GM, Are you fucking retarded? You can't use a calendar and check the dates I posted here? >>28109169>or as an option for 2015 nismos or newer.Kek, this fucking retard doesn't understand what the term "Model Year" means, let me guess, you are a dumb poorfag that has enver bought a car new or even worse, a busrider.>here's a reason why we've never seen a production Nismo get past 7:19 We have never seen a production Aventador SVJ lap the ring in 6:44, Are we back again at the age old cope of >B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!!?lolz
>>28109306>and the modified one in 2013 is in the non-production section.Maybe because wikipedia is full of shit lol. Didn't your teachers tell you not to use it when doing homework? They have the Huracan Performante, the 992 GT3 RS, the Viper ACR and other modified cars that were modified with a rollcage and less sound deadning, something that was never offered in any track package and are not production because of that in the production section. They have the 911 GT2 RS with the Manthey Performance Kit that is installed by a 3rd party just like the N-Attack is It has the pre-production Aventador SVJ there aswell despite the fact that Lamborghini used a pre-production model to set that laptime just like Nissan did.>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!lolz>There has yet to date been any official N-attack to ever get past 7:19There has yet to date been any official Aventador SVJ to ever get past 6:44>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!!lolz>whereas corvettes are always verified by manufacturers and third party tests simultaneously.Kek no they aren't you fucking retard, What manufacturer verified any of GM laps? None of the C6 Corvettes that GM lapped were verified by a third party. GM just released a video like Nissan. GM never released any official data for the C7 and C8. The only laptimes for C7s and C8s are third party test made by SportAuto and they slower than Nissan's test lol. >So why isn't SportAuto testing an N-Attack GTR Nismo!!!Go ask them lol. Why isn't SportAuto testing a Pagani Zonda or a Koenigsegg Jesko? It's not Nissan's fault SportAUto can't borrow an N-Attack GTR Nismo to test it, that's SportAuto's fault. You are fucking retarded lolz>can't reproduce that 7:08Lamborghini can't reproduce 6:44 lolz
>>28109309> that car wasnt a N-attack it was a car specifically designed for the nurburingAnd? Lexus developed a package for the LFA specifically for the Nurburgring, so did Seat, Mercedes Benz, Vauxhall, BMW, Toyota and so on.https://www.topgear.com/car-news/list/top-gears-top-9-nurburgring-tribute-cars>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!lolz>and not a production specThe Package was offered to customers and here you can see one driving on public roads, cope retard. lolhttps://youtu.be/G9poQEp_9bQ?feature=shared>tranny throttlethat has been deboonked lolzYou don't understand how the car industry works you fucking newfag lolz
>>28109297What I am saying is that the 2025 Corvette Stingray is slower than a 2007 GTR lolz
>>28109318Nice. Now ansur da qeschan
>>28109323FWD will never be fast
>>28109326NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>28109312Nothing had been debunked kek, your idea of debunking is deflection to other questionable bad actors. It's a perfect example of whataboutism and that doesn't mean shit. The 2013 car wasnt production and has never been able to be replicated or verified by a third party. The direct comparison the Corvette always has times that match between third party tests and manufacturer tests especially on laptimes. If you have beef with other brands make a thread and prove them to be fake just as we've proven niggsan to be fraudulent time and time hence why it isn't on official lists kek.
>>28109337>is deflection to other questionable bad actors.Yet the sources you use to discredit Nissan do not point out that these manufacturers are guilty of the same practices. So it's back again to the age old cope of >B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!!lolz>It's a perfect example of whataboutismNo it isn't, I am just pointing out your sources are unreliable and biased >The 2013 car wasnt productionAccording to who? Wikipedia? Wikipedia isn't a reliable source because it has the Aventador SVJ in the production section despite the fact that Lamborghini used a pre-prodcution model.>The direct comparison the Corvette always has times that match between third party tests and manufacturer tests especially on laptimes.There are no third party tests for the C6 Z51, GS, Z06 or ZR1, No third party tests for the C7 Z51, GS, or ZR1, only for the Z06There are no third party tests for the C8 Z51, as a matter of fact, the C8 Z51 laptime that can be found onf fastestlaps that I posted here >>28109181 was set using a pre-production model and was released on a video by GM themselves and unlike Nissan, the video doesn't include the entire laptime https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/chevy-mid-engine-2020-corvette-stingray-c8-documentary/>GM release a Corvette nurburgring laptime using a pre-production model just like NissanKek!, can't make this shit up, so much for GM not being frauds themselves.>official lists such as?
hey there, the gtr is very slow and also gay why is this?
>>28109386Hahaha there you go again with whataboutism. You pointing out examples of your perceived gripes with other brands to defend niggsan undermines your argument not mine. It's not anyone's job or duty to call out every single cheater when the topic is only one cheater and one specific instance, that is the most kindergarten autistic take I've ever seen >I know I cheated butt buttt butttt these guys do it allllll the time whyyyy ammmmm I only the one getting in trouble >:(!?!?!That is your entire fucking argument boiled down to a simple greentext it's fucking juvenile.>There are no third party tests for the C6 Z5 blah blah blah deflection Holy shit you have to be fucking ESL retard, I made a simple point, but I'll expand upon it so it's simpler for you kek. Me stating what I stated above was not me saying every single corvette gets a third party test it was me pointing out that whenever that happens to be a third party that tests a corvette it's always in toe and in line with chevys tests and results hahaha which makes them credible. Even in the fucking topic of this thread the c8 z06 it was both confirmed by chevy as the time AND a third party hahahaha proving my fucking point that they are pretty honest on their times with the corvette. Unlike niggersan with it's modified car and no replication of any of their results on the ring even though the n-attack has been out 9 years.Please keep gish galloping and deflecting to other bullshit like porsche and lamborghini when I'm specifically talking about niggersan and corvettes it just proves my point not yours hahaha.
>>28109407>Proving that me and my sources are full of shit is whataboutism!lolz>You pointing out examples of your perceived gripes with other brandsI am pointing out examples of similar practices within the industry, not my problem you are autistic and don't understand how the industry works lolz>It's not anyone's job or duty to call out every single cheater Or maybe they aren't cheating, maybe those are industry accepted practices, that manufacturers have been engagin in for decades. I wonder who is wrong here? Multinational corporations Porsche, GM, Lamborghini, Nissan or a seething autist on 4chan like you lolz>That is your entire fucking argument boiled down to a simple greentext it's fucking juvenile.Your entire argument is seething about widely accepted industry practices lolz.>ESL retard,kek, says the retard that couldn't even use a calendar or read a simple text as I proved here:>>28109169>>28109173Is it because you are an EFL eboniclet? After all, you use ebonics such as nig and beef. Do I need to write in AAVE so you understand me?>Dem foreign whypz like Lambo' n Porsch be cheating aswell nigga!>Nissan offered da GTR N-Attack for sale yo!lolz>it's always in toe and in line with chevys testsNo it isn't kek, the only third party tests of Corvettes in the ring are the ones made by SportAuto with C7 z06 and C8 z06, GM never made public any official laptimes of these two models, Holy shit, you are beyong fucking stupid lolz.> and results hahaha which makes them credible.are you having a fucking stroke? Are you too butthurt you just smash random keys on your keyboard?>c8 z06 was confirmed by chevy as the time AND a third partyWhere? GM never made public any c8 z06 laptimes.>they are pretty honest on their times with the corvetteNo they aren't, there aren't any official times released by GM to compare to SportAuto times, Are you really this fucking retarded?> the n-attack has been out 9 years.And /o/ keeps seething about it kek.
>>28109531Yap more retard its literally the first post itt>>28100281A manager at chevy confirmed it lined up with their times as well. Calling a modified car a volume production car is not standard practice otherwise it wouldn't be in the non-production and modified section of leaderboards kek. Cope and seethe ESLnigger. Go petition the other cheaters to be taken off it too, not my problem. At the end of the day the GTR is slower than the C7 Z06 and C8 Z06 while both are cheaper than that overpriced riced shitbox. Can't believe that ugly fat slow POS MSRPs for 207k thats fucking wild nearly twice the price of the z06 msrp
>>28109627>A manager at ChevyKek, so theres no video? Am I supposed to just foolishly believe GM? How do we know they used a production car? Chevy already tried to cheat, according to your own logic, by using a pre-production C8 to set a laptime at the nurburgring, they set the laptime before the official release too. https://www.carscoops.com/2019/07/2020-corvette-c8-returns-to-the-nurburgring-16-days-before-its-big-unveiling/ >B-but it's okay when GM does it!!! Only Nissan isn't allowed to use pre-production models!!!lolz>Calling a modified car a volume production car is not standard practicePorsche calls the 911 GT models with the Manthey Performance Kit volume production, despite the fact that it is installed by a 3rd party dealer after purchase just like the N-Attack>B-but it's okay when Porsche does it!!! Only Nissan isn't allowed to use pre-production models!!!lolz>otherwise it wouldn't be in the non-production and modified section of leaderboards kek>Go petition the other cheaters to be taken off it too, not my problemWhat leaderboards? Wikipedia? Fastestlaps? Those aren't a reliable source as I explained here >>28109309 and because your argument is self-defeating, If Wikipedia and Fastestlaps have incorrect informatrion by not labeling other "cheaters" as cheaters then it seems like it is indeed your problem. Why are you quoting "leaderboards" that have incorrect information? Is some information correct but other is not? According to who?lolz 2 ez>At the end of the day the GTR is slower than the C7 Z06 and C8 Z06Post a video of those Corvettes lapping the ring faster than this then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNAT_c3CLHw> cheaperGM is for poorfags confirmed lolz
https://www.carthrottle.com/news/bad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lie
>>28109681oops forgot to put my name :D
https://www.carthrottle.com/news/bad-news-gt-r-nismos-astonishing-nurburgring-time-was-massive-lie>but PistonHeads spoke to NISMO engineers,https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonheads/ph-in-japan-blog-diary-archive/28870>All of those modifications will become available to customers so perhaps there isn't any smoke and mirrors going on here.Imagine posting a link that deboooooonks your own argument lolz
>change volume on a car's radio>/o/ now believes it isn't "prodcution" because you changed an adjustable setting different t what it came from the factory.You literally can't make this shit up kek.
>>28109663Yawn. Yeah I'd take their word for it purely because a third party verified the time themselves anyways hence the topic of this thread lmao. If they were niggsan they'd say they would use modified nurburing bespoke cheater car and get a 6:59 and call the car volume production Z06 and back peddle and say next year you can get the Z06 X-Y package kek and it came with bucket seats and a tuned suspension.Again go take your gripes with the list retard and have them struck off just like niggsan, again not my problem. Calling a modified nismo a volume production car over a year before it's available is the definition of false advertising. They didnt even have name for it hahahaha. It's been 9 years and still no production niggsan has gotten past the 7:19 barrier besides even if we theoretically did it your way and granted the nigmo it's 7:08 (its not) it's still slower than a z06 on most other tracks and slower overall kek. The fact it's slower on every other track makes it more obvious it faked the time. It's slower and more expensive fatter gayer and riced.
>>28109705>a third party verified the time themselvesNo they didn't, SportAuto never verified GM's C8 Stingray latpime, and GM never released any laptimes for the C7 and C8 Z06, so SportAuto couldn't "verify" somethign that doesn't existGod damn, you surely are one stupid fucker lolzNot even going to bother with the rest of your post until you accept these simpel concepts that are easy to understand for anyone that isn't a literal 85 IQ chimp like you. Come on, try harder.
>>28101604Yes it is.Go call a dealer and ask what's the lowest trim corvette that they have.
>>28109741Like the other guy said the pushrod C8 is the Cayman equivalent. If you drive one you will get laughed out of the Corvette meet.
>>28109711I was obviously talking about the C8 Z06 laptime you fucking retard Chevy's product sport manager and SportAuto both claimed the same time lmao, all you do is change the subject gish gallop and whataboutism it's hilarious you 52 IQ Niggaraguan. An even easier debunk of niggsan that's simple just for your ESL 1L diesel brain is this, the Nismo and the N-attack are 2 different models of car yet only the Modified Nismo was tested not a N-attack even on press releases for the laptime in 2013 it was just called a Nismo. Again an N-attack is a different model entirely lmao. At the end of the day we all know you're full of shit but none of this changes the fact the C6Z6 SP C7Z6 C7ZR1 C8Z6 are all faster than the R35 and most of the cars are cheaper to boot kek. Compile the times loser it's behind on majority of tracks and a slower car kek.
>>28109754>C8 Z06Post a video or a press release>But Sport Auto said that GM said that...kek, There is no video and we don't have a date so we don't knbow if they used a pre-production model or if they set the laptime before the official release date, which according to you, is considered cheating.Seems like your own arguments are backfiring at you kek.>Again an N-attack is a different model entirely lmao.Learn to read you eboniclet 85 IQ chimp retard.>>28109691>All of those modifications will become available to customers.lolz>C6Z6 SP C7Z6 C7ZR1 C8Z6 are all faster than the R35nope, R35 does 6:40∼ see, >>28109531
>>28109770Also >compile the timesCompile the championships kek, GT3 Corvettes don't have any fucking success in GT racing.
>>281002747:10 is bretty fast for a street legal carthat's a full 9 seconds faster than the Nissan NISMO GT-R, which costs a million dollars
>>28109770>GT3 carI accept your concessionYour own argument defeated itself, a third party verfied the chevy time with their own test which match the claims by both SportAuto and the Chevy Performance Manager kek. All your retarded deflection would confirm is that Chevy's theoretical pre-production models are 1:1 accurate to their post produciton models haha. Can't say the same for the Nigmo since it's not street legal in Germany nor will any production N-attack drive on the nurburing. Yet we have no confirmed production Nigmo ever getting past the 7:19 on the leaderboard. Maybe one day someone will get a production version of an n-attack and test it and have it stuck at 7:19 as well lmao
>7:08 is 9 seconds more than 7:1085 IQ Chimp can't use a calendar, read English or do basic math kek.
>>28109808That was a modified car and isn't on any leaderboard recognized by /o/ better luck next time
>>28109800>It's only bad to compare race cars to production cars when the Nissan is faster!!lolzYou literally typed "C6 SP" here>>28109754, which is a privateer race car kek.>a third party verfied the chevy time with their own test Prove the car used by GM was a production model and that they lapped the ring after their release, GM has a history of using pre-production models to set laptimes, >>28109663 which according to you, is considered cheating. >Yet we have no confirmed production Nigmo ever getting past the 7:19 on the leaderboard.We have no confirmed Aventador SVJ ever getting past 6:59>B-But it's only bad when Nissan does it!!!!lolzYou are seriously fucking stupid or just going rageblind, eitherway your posts make no fucking sense lol
>>28109812>That was a modified carSo is the 9111 GT2 RS with the Manthey Performance Kit> isn't on any leaderboard recognized by /o/Wronghttps://www.biggarage.de/info/nuerburgring-nordschleife-lap-times-records.html>inb4 wikipedia or fastestlaps, where any autists can upload a laptime is more valid than a German company that organizes track days at the nurbugring.
>>28109837>You used Wikipedia as a source hereAnd? There isn't a more reliable site that aggregates all of the GTR's championships. If there were I'd use it.>Can't pick and choose little nig nog, Follow your own advice, 85 IQ chimp.>the official lists for /o/ are on wikipedia and fastlaps Nope>and both of them don't have the GTRBecause they are outdated and wrong, luckily we have a more reliable leaderboard from a more reliable company whose entire existance revolves around the nurburgringhttps://www.biggarage.de/info/nuerburgring-nordschleife-lap-times-records.html>Besides your little list has all the porsches and lambos you were claiming were fake in the production sectionI don't claim those Porsche or Lambos times are fake, You are the one seething and malding at a brand for using pre-production models to set performance benchmarks before the official release or to offer OEM track packages that are installed after purchase by a 3rd party, You are the one seething at Nissan, I am using Porsche and Lambo as an example to point out your mental gymnastics, remember, you can't pick and choose little nig nog. >because you're the annoying nigtard on /o/Thats correct, I am THE one that annoys /o/, I gave /o/ a complex, I controlled the narrative on /o/ for YEARS before zoom zooms faggots ruined this place, there weren't any threads that I didn't turn into a GTR vs Corvette shitfest, the most reposted image on this cesspit is STILL a GTR vs Corvette test, 10 years after it happened https://archive.4plebs.org/o/statistics/image-reposts/ You are talking with /o/ royalty, with an ELITE shitposter, I forced an Tripfaggot Admin on this board to stop an autistic popularity contest because I spammed his thread with over 2000 posts of GTR vs Corvette. that's three zeros. Tranny jannies have been trying to permaban me for a whole DECADE and I still outsmart them everytime. You are NOBODY, an Anonymous poster that will NEVER be remembered.
Daddy S/o/viet I love it when you buttblast them this hard!! I wish you could buttfuck me like this again!!
>>28109849what does any of that have to do with no production nigmo being past a 7:19?
>>28109904Reliable people that have authority on the matter have deemed valid the laptimes set by manufacturers using pre-production models provided they have video evidence, thats why you can see the Nismo GTR and the Lamborghini Aventador SJV on the website of a company that specializes in providing customers with a premium Nurburgring track day experience.https://www.biggarage.de/info/nuerburgring-nordschleife-lap-times-records.html>b-but what about wikipedia where everyone can edit the leaderboard!?!?lolzHow come the official websitee of the Nurbugring circuit doesn't list the Nismo GTR in the modified or protoype/pre-production section? https://nuerburgring.de/info/nuerburgring/records>b-but some austists in fastestlaps labeled it as modified!!!!lolz
>>28109909all of that typing yet no production N-attack times nor production Nismo times past a 7:19
>>28109929How come the official website of the Nurburgring circuit doesn't list the GTR Nismo N-Attack as pre-production or as a modified car?
>>28109935the official are fastlaps and wikipedia and neither have it, try again. 7:19 is niggersans production limit
>>28109947>the official are fastlaps and wikipediakek no they aren't, those are cesspits where any autists can add fake information
>>28109957>>28109935forgot my name btw
>>28109957>>28109958it's more accurate than the shit you post, at least it has one of the cheaters off the board instead of none of them like the links you posted kek
>No seriously, my community edited circlejerk where everybody can upload or modify data is more accurate than the official Nurburgring circuit website!!!
>>28109978oops
>>28109979>>28109978Show me evidence of tampering, the niggsan is a known fraudulent time and done in a modified 1 of 1 car and isn't production and isn't on the production car list, there is 0 issues.
>Yeah, wikipedia and fastestlaps have inaccurate information that contradict the argument I've tried to defend for the past 3 days, but I will quote them over the official Nurburgring circuit website because I must have my revenge against S/o/viet.
>>28109984I just checked the official /o/ leader boards and the nismo's highest time is 7:19 and slower than the z06. Cope seethe dilate
>>28100281kek what a piece of shit
>I just checked the official /o/ leader boards and the nismo's highest time is 7:19 and slower than the z06.
>>28110036oops>>28110025Corvettes have always been fucking overhyped boomer garbage lol
>>28110036>>28110045GTRs have always been overhyped ricer garbage lol, double the price of a corvette yet slower and gayer and missing 2 cylinders
lol
>>28110046All of which would be forgivable if it wasn't slower than the corvette.The Japanese are inadequate when it comes to making fast cars..
>>28102342It lost to the Z06, let alone the Porsche.
>>28110788>z06>>28110528
>>28111130It needs $250K to beat $80K Z06. lmao
>>28111892>being poor