What was the last year for cars without any of this tech/tracking garbage?
>>281984122010
2011-2012, or maybe up to 2015 because some makes didn't bother with all new models during the great recession.Or you could just get a manual nissan versa.
Every car is tracked. The fuck you talking about OP?
>>281984121993. 1994 is when OBD became mandatory.
My family has a few cars from the early 2010's that don't seem to connect to anything but I've done no real research on those or their features. I had an 02 Honda and 05 Subie that didn't have any obvious connectivity/tracking tech.>>28198540Glowies don't want to plug anything into your diagnostic port. If they get off their ass to go after you, you're getting some sort of gps tracker glued to your shitbox. Still a good rec and my favorite, but a little pointless all the same, with ALPRs everywhere.
>>28198540>>28198564What's wrong with OBD?
>>28198596what's wrong with you?retard
>>28198412they're still a thing. pic related is a brand new car. no ipad, just a small instrument cluster and a phone mount.
>>28198597Depersonalization-derealization disorder
>>28198607not my problem
>>28198608Then why did you ask?
I have a 2015 honda and it feels like the perfect amount of tech.>rear camera>passenger side side-mirror camera for right turns (kind of neat) >heated seats>bluetooth, no apple car play or android auto>can turn traction control off>can turn LDW on (off by default)>mechanical parking break>no nav systemIt does have push to start but that's it. Also remote start.
>>28198412Pre 2012-2002Anything earlier gets stolen or harder to tune on stock ECUAfter 2012 if they have 2-5g bt and other shit it's phone home AIDS data collection Or rip it all out and go with aftermarket ECU and don't fall for smart head units just dumb head unit with aux cable and maybe older Bluetooth audio only >>28198540Ob1 is fairly harmless Early ob2 is harmless Late ob2/3 is aids
>>28198540OBD II became mandatory in 96.OBD I is worthless.
>>28198642What's wrong with OBD2?
>>28198596OBD 3 is 24/7 satellite monitoring by the gubbermint. They claim its to help you diagnose care problems quicker and to "improve air quality", but what it really is is tracking your movements no matter where you go with your vehicle.
>>28198662Wow. I don't really like that.How accessible is this data? Do they need physical access to the port with a search warrant?
>>28198661what's wrong with you? stop asking this.there is functionally nothing wrong with any of the obd protocols. boomers get mad because different makers use different signalling protocols so not all scan tools are compatible with all cars. there's nothing that is a threat to your privacy, it's just a baseline date for when stuff got slightly more complicated (and thus the end of most boomer's knowledge)
>>28198663obd3 doesn't actually exist, it's merely been proposed.
this is a reminder anybody telling you your car has "secret listening devices" and is "phoning home" is a CIA/FVEY agent executing a fudbomb specifically to make you panic. All transmitting devices in consumer products must be declared to the FCC, if there really was all this massive data collection, somebody would have discovered and intercepted it by now, just like how the CIA's plan to shit up /pol/ was rather quickly discovered. Yet, in 10-15 years of this technology being around nobody has ever been able to "hack into" a car or leak any of this supposed "information".so either the US government is exceptionally good at hiding this stuff (highly unlikely) or it doesn't actually exist except in the wet dreams of communists and mad max larpers.
>>28198412ford makes dog shit cars, you deserve what you get op
>>28198418I think model year 2015 would be the cutoff for GM - prior to that Onstar was using Verizon's 2G networks which have since been decommissioned. They might have been phoning home a few years ago but they aren't now.
>>28198664Kill yourself
>>28198680https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar
>>28198680>so either the US government is exceptionally good at hiding this stuff (highly unlikely) or it doesn't actually exist except in the wet dreams of communists and mad max larpers.It's not hidden, it's just buried in 300 pages of Terms of Service 99% of consumers will never read.
>>28198663They can already track nu cars like this. No new socket required.
>>28198874>it's on wikipedowow so secret>>28198877i'm talking about the actual devices you chumpso far the only data leaks from auto manufacturers have been occurring through connected services people manually sign up for. you don't need a ford/chrysler/chevy myconnect cell phone app to remote start your car and nobody interested in data security would ever consider signing up for those things.nobody cares what 99% of people will do either, fool. this is a thread about what to do if you are the 1% of people who care.next time try >>>/trash/or https://www.reddit.com
>>28198596>>28198661OBD1 had a per manufacturer protocol. OBD2 was the state mandating all manufacturers use the same protocol to read codes. That's it. You can argue OBD is nanny state tech from the fact that it monitors your exhaust and commands the ecu to adjust fuel mixture as well as reporting to you that you might fail emissions inspections. Other than emissions it simply tells you which electrical sensors are low/high out of spec or straight fucked. Boomers just hate electricity because you need an average IQ of 100 to work with it. Most electrical issues are akin to valves stuck open/shut or not having the right input/back pressure.
>>28198898>so far the only data leaks from auto manufacturers have been occurring through connected services people manually sign up forFalse. Telematics in nu cars are always on and sending various data to the motojews. For example they've been caught using this data for car insurance.Sauce: https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/technology/gm-lexisnexis-face-class-action-over-telematics-insurance-data-collection-481325.aspxIn most cars, it's trivial to disable telematics. They use LTE/4g modem with antennas. You can simply jam the antenna signal with a 50ohm resistor, making it think there's no signal.
>>28198418Go to bed Westlife You're a dumbass for getting rid of that Jetta
>>28198599there are a few of these poverty spec euromobiles>VW Up!>dacia sanderocuriously, also available as EVs too
>>28198663>neednothing but internet access.also check'd >>28198888
