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i need to get better at identifying motorcycle models in art

>>28682811
sure bro
just 2 more weeks

i need to get better at lifting my front wheel to do wheelies

>>28682821
its ai from a japanese twitter account that just spams "anime style" "manga style" in the keywords
you cant identify if because its not a real bike, its what AI interprets an "anime" style bike to be

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>>28682827
but the AI must have been trained with pics of real bikes so this bike would be an amalgamation of multiple bikes

unlike these bikes which is clearly identifiable

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>>28682813

>>28682832
This looks like a comfy bike for long scenic rides, but I wouldn't like to be riding in the city.

>>28682831
>you cant identify if because its not a real bike, its what AI interprets an "anime" style bike to be

>>28682837
how would AI know what a bike looks like if it wasn't fed images of actual bikes?

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>>28682839
are you fucking dense you ESL retard?
you ask it to draw a "kawasaki"
it has 1,000,000 references to a kawasaki
it doesnt know exactly HOW a kawasaki looks
it doesnt know HOW to put together a kawasaki
it amalgamates what it thinks is APPROXIMATELY a kawasaki
it cannot redraw EXACT things
it can draw APPROXOMATIONS
which is why you can vaguely say
>that is a motorbike
>that is a tyre
>that is the suspension
however, you cannot identify any of these things because they are NOT REAL
they are an INTERPRETATION of DATAPOINTS

it very may well be that these tyres are BASED on Michelin Reggae, but thats a scooter tyre
it has 2 fenders and 3 break lights
a single sided suspension arm, with an ohlins preload adjustor
the chain is hidden inside the housing of a shotterscooter, but it clearly has the exhaust and ergonomics of a motorbike
and to top it all off, the character has a right foot

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>>28682835
It's fine in the city too. It feels surprisingly nimble (better geometry than a softail), and its weight isn't an issue unless you drop it for some reason. Filtering is less available, but that's really the only difference between this bike and the smaller bikes I've had. The gearing lets you tractor through downtown traffic in 2nd no problem, and the bike actually converts one cylinder to pumping air to cool the engine when you're forced to a crawl in hot weather.

>>28682855
tldr, i saw was
>break lights

>>28682862
yeah I also somehow typed "shotterscooter" and I dont even know what that means
this is the power of mobile

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>>28682820
>The bike has more ground clearance and handles better.
Is that a bad thing against the Vstrom 800 or do you mean another bike?

>>28682820
>Retard sits on an ADV for the first time
I owned an ADV, you retard. I haven't owned a large ADV, that's why I was shopping for one.
Holy shit, all these assumptions but literally no answering one question: How can I put these features onto a good bike?

>>28682855
>you ask it to draw a "kawasaki"
>it has 1,000,000 references to a kawasaki
>it doesnt know exactly HOW a kawasaki looks

to give those Indians on youtube some credit: they're pretty good at making a Kawasaki look like a Kawasaki for their fake AI showcases.

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>>28682860
>Filtering is less available
For me this is a deal breaker because filtering passed cagers is the most enjoyable part of motorcycling. When they honk their horns in frustration it's hilarious.

>pic
Are you not allowed to park your bike on the sidewalk? We're pretty much forced to in Australia because if we park our bike in a car space some cager will kick it over because their limited parking spaces are precious to them.

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>>28682868
>>28682820
Oh, I misread what you were saying when you said that.
>The bike has more ground clearance and handles better.
You were saying that is a positive. There's one near me for relatively cheap but idk I've heard people call it the SUV of bikes: a big, bulky bike that has loads of off-road features nobody uses.

>>28682821
Why does this bike have a scooter swingarm

>the chinese will dominate the market in less than 10 years
They definitely could, they had perfect opportunity to do that from 2015. But chinese demographics and market hit its wall, and now it's too late. CFMOTO 450MT was the last try after all those Lifans and Voges, yet they failed miserably and now at least in my european country our aftermarket is full of dirtcheap cfmotos with 2k km on clock without anybody wanting to ride them.

What these chinese bots should do instead is propose creating a new motorcycle brand and pay another marketing campaign in EU and US, maybe next time you will sell more (unlikely).

what’s the saga on white hornetanon. I was invested. Did he get the bike

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Oh yeah I almost forgot, before Ibex there was a Voge 300 Rally and chinks were actively marketing it on /dbt. What happened to that bike?

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>>28682882
The older Vstroms are odd ducks. They're somewhere between upright sport touring and dedicated ADV. Mostly road focused, they tried adding some offroady trims in the later years. The 1050 is still a pot bellied pig, even the DE. The 800DE seems like a much more sincere attempt to make a Tenere-fighter. They're genuinely excellent to ride, especially for a tall guy, they're just not sexy.

>>28682911
Ok, now unironically what does Vstrom have from an adventure motorcycle?

>>28682907
I still see voge around, they just released a new bike recently.
There's like no dealers that carry them though, I think CFMoto did the best thing a chink brand could do to break into the wider market: start on side-by-sides and ATVs which people don't care too much about being quality to establish a dealer presence before jumping to bikes.

>>28682911
>The older Vstroms are odd ducks. They're somewhere between upright sport touring and dedicated ADV.
That sounds really based.
>The 800DE seems like a much more sincere attempt to make a Tenere-fighter. They're genuinely excellent to ride, especially for a tall guy, they're just not sexy.
Ah. So actually for me, this is probably what I should be going for from a practicality standpoint. I ride alone so I don't really care about showing off to others

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>>28682878
>Are you not allowed to park your bike on the sidewalk?
You're not supposed to, but some people do. I used to park my Vespa on sidewalks but shop owners would bitch at me and threaten to call the cops because it was either "blocking foot traffic" to their store or "it will break my windows when it falls over" so I just stopped. I do see people doing it, but never big ass touring bikes like mine. People don't normally mess with bikes here, and I don't normally park in places where they are more likely to.

>>28682918
>>28682911
Also for some reason, the touring model DEs with tubeless tires seem to be less expensive than the ADV models, any idea why?

Poo bike is ____-ing again
I fixed ignition timing and shoved the engine back into subframe
Carb idle circuit was also clogged and could only idle on choke
>before carb rebuild
https://litter.catbox.moe/v1oqsyff8caj75x6.mp4
>after rebuild plus re-jet (95 -> 81)
https://litter.catbox.moe/ba1dz03sth5gdt80.mp4
still 4 strokes a bit in the mids, but there is a big dent in the pipe's chamber

T7 for $11111 OTD
Go for it?

>>28682936
now that looks like a little hooligan machine

>>28682914
They always had at least a 19" front wheel and an overall very upright, standing-friendly posture, as well as longish travel suspension, but nothing earth shattering.
>>28682929
No idea. You're sure it's a DE Adventure and not a Touring?

>>28682969
they're fun to play around with. the moped hobby naturally filters wrenchlets and biktokers whether thats good or bad

>>28682994
>No idea. You're sure it's a DE Adventure and not a Touring?
Sorry, that's what I mean, it's a Touring.

>>28682994
>They always had at least a 19" front wheel and an overall very upright, standing-friendly posture, as well as longish travel suspension, but nothing earth shattering.
Now the new VStroms, the touring ones I keep seeing, have different sized wheels. Does that change the handling much or is it like a SUMO?

>>28683045
love me some mopeds, especially the bike conversions

>>28682860
>one cylinder pumping air to cool the engine
>other cylinder still just burning gasoline
sounds like a good way to warp something. Why doesn't it just do the regular thing and water cool both cylinders?

schizophrenia incoming:
>We all know how reliable 600 and 1000 engines on VStroms were and still are but the problem with the 800 is not only is it a new platform - granted, it's still a Suzuki, yes, but it also has a WAY higher engine compression ratio compared to both 600 and 1000 engines from Suzuki and basically any other motorcycle line-up that has been crowned with the reliability badge over the past few decades. In short, high engine compression is the root of all wear and tear in an engine and it is the reason why sports cars and sports bikes have such short lifespans compared to other types of vehicles. That is why all engines across all manufacturers and all platforms, which have been given the title of ''king of reliability,'' have one thing in common; low engine compression ratios (from 9:1 up to around 11.5:1), which surprisingly VStrom 800 engine is the only one and also first on in the VStrom history, to have compression ration above the VStrom standard of 11.2:1... The 800 engine has a compression ratio of 12.8:1, which is either higher than or very close to some of the crazy supersport motorcycle engines such as the ones on R1, GSXR1000, S1000RR and so on... To give you an even better perspective of just how high this engine compression is, if you were to take your or your pops good ol' BMW 3 series and do a FULL stage 2 rebuild and tune and then do a stage 2 ECU mapping - you'd be looking at a compression ratio of somewhere around 13:1 up to 13.5:1... Suzuki VStrom 800 engine has stock engine compression of 12.8:1... That's very, very high...

>Very weird that they went with such a high engine compression on that engine, when close to everyone else in the adventure segment sticks to compression ratios below 12:1... I believe KTM 790, Ducati DesertX, BMW F900 and VStrom 800 are the only adventure bikes with compression ratios above 12:1.

source: some youtube post I can't deb00nk.

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>>28683119
It's an air-cooled V-twin, is why.

>>28682907
They are quite popular in Europe and some places of South America like Chile and Argentina(probably cuz Spaniard folks like it a lot in their reviews), feature-wise is pretty much a KLX for a lower price, besides Loncin which is the actual manufacturer, used to make the engines for kawasaki for many years, particularly the low cc ones. Imo I would dare to say Loncin/Voge is better than CFMoto, the only downside is that you can really notice the cut-down on certain things like the fairings and the display, they look super cheap. Recently they have released some 660cc ones, and also I think Zontes is also a branch from Loncin, yet these are more tech featured than Voge, with a nicer finish also, some even put CFMoto to shame.
The issue with Zontes and CFMoto seem to be the service more than anything, they are too expensive on some places for some weird reason. As for Voge, I would say those are more focused for the ones that fix the shit themselves and used as a spare for a fun bike.

Wanna have a dual sport to bash and beat the shit out of it on the trails that is cheap and easy to maintain? That's why you get one of those mainly.

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>>28683140
/air-cooled V-twin/

>>28682835
I ride a 2008 Electra-Glide as my around town bike because I got a smoking hot deal on it after a friend's uncle died. A big Harley, Indian, or Goldwing can easily be maneuvered in tight city conditions. If they couldn't, every large city police department wouldn't buy bikes like this. No one would get them if they were absolutely unwieldy because how would you navigate a slightly parking lot.

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>>28683070
The 19" cast wheel is more road biased, but a compromise. Not as sharp as a 17" front wheel, not as awful as a 17" on dirt roads. The 21" front wheel is to run truly dirt worthy rubber. There are a lot of great road only tires available in 19" front if you want a pavement pounder. I believe the suspension travel is lesser on the cast wheel bikes, too, but don't trust me on that and I am too drunk to fact check myself.
>>28683123
The 800 engine was primarily made to decimate the MT07 and R7 crowd. It's more powerful. They used it in the VStrom because they know they can't keep making the 650 forever. As long as the metallurgy is good, it'll be fine for the lifespan of the bike, realistically. Almost all bikes meet their end via an accident before the engine dies of natural causes.

>>28683230
>The 19" cast wheel is more road biased, but a compromise.
So it can do some off-road?

Give me some advice friends. Planning to upgrade next year to a Z900RS or ZX6R. Will my 36 year old lower back be able to handle a supersport or do I go with something more comfortable?

>>28683230
>Almost all bikes meet their end via an accident before the engine dies of natural causes.
Wow that's grim, so all of us are destined to die with our 'kus?

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>>28683233
You can take a lot of bikes down dirt roads of varying shittiness with the skillset and balls. Small wheels really want to follow any disturbances in the road, or just not roll over bumps very well. These qualities are less than ideal for dirt. The 19" is less bad about this and has knobby tire options. The BMW GSA uses a 19" and that's the poster child or ADV. The 21" is the standard the industry has decided on for many years now. If you want the luggage, you're just going to have to spend extra on aftermarket boxes.

Another option for you might be a used Africa Twin. Big, comfy, powerful but not insane, reliable engine, 21" front wheel as standard prior to the latest generation.
>>28683235
36 is very young unless you take shit care of yourself + work a blue collar job. I would buy the Z900RS just because it's gorgeous and reasonably comfortable unless you see yourself doing a lot of aggressive riding and/or track.

>>28683230
>The 19" cast wheel is more road biased, but a compromise. Not as sharp as a 17" front wheel, not as awful as a 17" on dirt roads.
>The 800 engine was primarily made to decimate the MT07 and R7 crowd. It's more powerful. They used it in the VStrom because they know they can't keep making the 650 forever. As long as the metallurgy is good, it'll be fine for the lifespan of the bike, realistically.
So it's kind of a compromise touring adventure bike while something like the T7 is much more like a compromise between dual sport adventure?

>>28683246
>The 19" is less bad about this and has knobby tire options. The BMW GSA uses a 19" and that's the poster child or ADV. T
I did not know that. I guess I need to research this topic a bit more because I just assumed there were dual sport tires for all rim sizes. But what you're saying makes perfect sense.

>>28683253
ADV is a very broad category. It gets muddier when you have different trims that are focused on different things with the same model.
>>28683259
You can get knobbies for 17" wheels too, and 19", they just won't be as good at their job because front wheel diameter is important off-road. The T7, Africa Twin 1100, and the KTM 890 in particular are the most off-road focused ADV bikes.

I'm in the market for a new helmet. After 8 years my Shoei RF1200 is a bit tired.
I'm only looking at Arai or Shoei. Not sure if I should just get the RF1400 or maybe try out Arai's RX-7V Evo. The Arai is on sale at the moment so they're both about the same price.
I ride a Fireblade and a dual sport. I have a Bell MX9 for the dual sport but it's a noisy helmet. I want something that I can wear on either bike when I'm commuting or hitting the twisties.

>>28683291
not good, they expire every 5 years if you don't keep them topped up

>>28683302
It's recommended to replace every 5 years but there's no evidence that a helmet loses its protective qualities after 5 years.

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>>28683306
>>28683291
>>28683302
SHUT UP.SHUT UP
GOD
FUCKING SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGERS

i only put 0w-20 in my helmet so it goes faster

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Why dont you own a portable gaming system to keep on your bike to play while riding?

>>28683318
How often do you have to change it?

>>28683291
I've slid at 55 and landed on my head in this $40 Walmart dirt bike helmet and it clearly protected my life, just get those unless you're some weeaboo faggot who only wants nipshit

>>28683322
about once every 5K but i gotta change the headliner out every 10K

>>28683326
I've tried on every brand of helmet in my local store. Shoei and Arai helmets are farm more comfy and premium. I'm not a poor fag so I'm happy to spend money.

>>28682758
I thought Arlen Ness was an old chopper guy. I did not know he made leathers too.

>>28683311
>t. didn't refrigerate his helmet and didn't use desiccant packets

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Have any anons actually gone touring in Japan?

>>28683330
I guarantee I make more money than you and spending money you don't have to spend is still retarded. I bet you make like 80k.

>>28683350
even if you made a million billion dollars, you still sound cringe when you say stuff like that.

>>28683144
>They are quite popular in Europe
That's weird because I live in Europe and have yet to see one on the road instead of a marketplace.

>>28683353
I make like ~200k minimum per year sometimes higher just developing a ROBLOX game and I do pretty much fucking nothing, I don't even develop it I have people doing it for me which I pay in ROBUX while I collect most of the money. So even if you made more than me, which ya don't I don't do anything for that money while you probably do. It's cringe how you're some office wagie or whatever who got a promotion and performatively wastes his money to feel like you have more. My friend inherited 2 apartment buildings from his grandma and probably makes good fucking money haven't asked him sounds inappropriate and he's the cheapest guy I know. Once saw him buy these sweatpants at a discount store didn't like the material and drove all the way back to get a refund. You're a poorfag, faggot.

>>28683359
didn't read :^)

>>28683361
Lol you should read it you'd learn something. I make much more than you and still don't blow my money on needless shit. You make like $40k so wasting money matters even more to you. When do your bike payments finish?

>>28683365
NTA, but someone making $40k can easily buy a top tier helmet without missing the money. A good helmet is a good purchase that lasts a long time and gets used a lot, not a frivolous purchase that wastes money.

>>28683365
I wasn't even the anon asking about helmets :^)
>YOU MAKE X AMOUNT
>I MAKE Y AMOUNT
Cringe
https://youtu.be/9E62iA6KCIQ

GOING TO THE DRAG STRIP NEXT FRIDAY
YEAAAAAH

Kinda want to bring the 250, too, so I can sound like a formula 1 car but do like 15 seconds.

>>28683371
oh you're just a random tranny i see.

>>28683350
>Spending money you don't have to spend
I have money to spend. I want to be comfy

>>28683377
Same. That's why I picked a helmet that fitted my retarded head and still have my Shoei XR1000.

>>28683374
Poorfag response lmao

>>28683373
HELL YEAH

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Important reminder for everyone!

Yamaha R1 still holds the record on Nürburgring since 2012. Motorcycle ban for tourists was introduced in 2025. For 13 years no other production bike could beat the record in tourist rides and since start 2025 no other motorcycle is being able to do that during private rides in this track. Thank you for your attention, good day.

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>>28683391
DO I BRING THE ROWDY CANS

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>>28683394
>Yamaha R1 still holds the record on Nürburgring since 2012.
Not for long.

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>>28683404
OR THE PRETTY CANS

>>28683404
ROWDY

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>>28683409
IT IS DECIDED

>>28683383
yeah 200k+ on a bad year NEETing all day is so poor. why haven't you gotten your neovagina op yet since you're not a poorfag?

>>28683394
Can't even think of anyone making attempts at the Nurburgring on bikes, so not really a record. PB magazine used to have a BTG leaderboard in the late 00s and would flog bikes round there monthly.

>>28683235
I‘m 29, never exercised in the last 10 years, work white collar, and I still commute a zx6r every day.

Why do I cringe every time I hear a parallel twin?

>>28683411
Poorfag lies lmao. I make 500k a year with my math degree.

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>>28683413
>Can't even think of anyone making attempts at the Nurburgring on bikes, so not really a record
Nürburgring is the biggest tourist track on this planet with people shipping their machines oversees just to ride it. It is the the one and only track to test their production motorcycles and cars, and people were doing it almost everyday for the last 98 years no less. Stop coping, R1 is just the best production bike for a track by a large margin.

>>28683428
>Not response, no proofs, only tries to hurl insults
Typical.

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>>28683433
Not even the guys you're trying to e-argue with.
Sad.

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>>28683433
>Getting triggered by reaction image
>No proof needed to refute your claims of burden
>No insults hurled

I, too, love wasting my time on basketweaving forums over outlandish claims.

>>28683438
>Calls others triggered
>Keeps replying
Lel.

Thanks for the (You)s

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>>28683449
You're welcome. I hope it brings you solace in such a blatant time of need.

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>See bike thread
>Open bike thread
>People arguing about salaries and trannies

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>>28683478
I'm still looking for a tranny so I can Rotax 503 swap this bitch.

>>28683478
It was tripfags 8 years ago and I left. No idea why I came back this year. It's just sad.

>>28683151
Based
Liquid cooling and fuel injection is for cock gobblers

>>28683291
best helmet to buy is the one that fits well, not the one that's most premium or the most expensive one. Get a lidpickers measurement and exclusively buy helmets that are the ideal size and shape.


best helmet I own was an online flash sale $150 Scorpion helmet. I keep trying to replace it, but nothing else fits as well.

>>28683478
People can't take bantz, or they get super butthurt about off-hand comments. It's a plague on the whole site. nobody has any chill anymore nor do they know how to do comebacks that play the whole thing off wtihout shitting up the thread

the correct answer to the salary argument is 'ur mum should pay me more' and that would be the end of it

>>28683545
>lidpickers measurement and exclusively buy helmets that are the ideal size and shape
Oh fuck off. I've tried HJC bullshit helmets, no matter the size they so not fit at the chin. No measurements take that into account.

>>28683271
>ADV is a very broad category.
I haven't really seen a good definition of ADV yet for that reason. At least not one that couldn't also include a bunch of tangentially related things like scramblers and sport tourers.

>>28683565
Sure, but you can take the cheekpads out and shave them down, you can't make a circular helmet into an ovular one.

>>28683271
>You can get knobbies for 17" wheels too, and 19", they just won't be as good at their job because front wheel diameter is important off-road. The T7, Africa Twin 1100, and the KTM 890 in particular are the most off-road focused ADV bikes.
would the cast wheels be a problem?

>>28683123
tldr

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>Ctrl+F schizosister
>0 results

>Ctrl+F lass
>0 results

>Ctrl+F jej
>0 results

>Ctrl+F nobike
>0 results

if it was a 3day, I believe today these are our last hours of peace anons
relish these moments, for the jannies will likely not give us such a blessing again

>>28683571
Guy is saying that zuki's 800DE 12.8:1 compression ratio is unusual for adventure/offroad bikes and is more at home in sport engines. The extra strain compared to the Vstrom 650's 11.2:1 means it's not going to be as reliable as its peers. But idk if I buy that because what kills engines isn't compression ratio but that + high RPM + shock load that sports engines would sustain. I don't think anyone is going to be taking an 800DE to a track.

>>28683578
>what kills engines isn't compression ratio but that + high RPM + shock load that sports engines would sustain
more compression is more strain on the mechanical parts, so you naturally have lower durability in the long run. This isnt new or unknown.

>>28683578
avg advdad doesnt use their bike for adv, but motorway milemunching and touring
do ur calculations and arguments based off of that

>>28683572
Wait, that's what happened? I just assumed he started changing the way he typed to not immediately get spotted every thread.

>>28683320
Because, that's gay.

>>28683580
I haven't seen anyone report 800DEs exploding yet, but then again they aren't as common of a bike and are only 4-5 years old as a platform.
I trust Suzuki has put their homework in and is using some method to reduce strain on an engine that is supposed to be for the long-haul. If ptwin 800's started dying before the old 650 v-twins do, people would be pissed. Plus it would be something they can't really say 'sorry' about considering they're trying to phase out the 650 line for them.

>>28683582
no he got banned
its possible hes already unbanned, I've noticed a few posts very similar to his

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>>28683344
I'm not sure he does either, and I'm not sure Rin would be smart enough to know that.


>>28683587
I guess it does track that he would the kind of person to get filtered by a 4chan ban.

>>28683581
>avg advdad doesnt use their bike for adv, but motorway milemunching and touring
It's probably okay then for most of the people who would buy an 800DE over something like the transalp or T7.

>>28683592
personal preference?

>>28683585
I mean they're likely not gonna assplode overnight either but it's a long term thing for sure.
I personnaly dont trust newshits because of all the electronics and sensors and gadgets incorporated into bikes that make them finnicky as shit even if the mechanicals hold up.

>>28683596
I guess it depends, If I couldn't get a Vstrom 650, I'd get a Transalp personally. Then I would do the ECU flash + Airbox mods.
I haven't considered the T7 enough but I know some people think they're the best new adv.

>>28683597
>I personnaly dont trust newshits because of all the electronics and sensors and gadgets incorporated into bikes that make them finnicky as shit even if the mechanicals hold up.
I've always wondered what's going to happen in 8-10 years when top boxes start to fail. I have segmented LCDs that only get 15-20 years before burning up, and they are way simpler and easier to replace than a top box is.

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posting in the comfy thread.
Had a dream last night that I went over to my friends house and we were putting together a Lego set of a castle but some pieces were missing.
Went outside to take the legos back to my house and I had my car and a red panigale outside.
Wanted to ride the duc but wondered how I was gonna get the bike and car back home and figured I’d get a ride later for the car
Go back inside and get the rest of the legos but when I get outside te car and bike are gone. A guy at the end of the driveway said they got towed a couple blocks away
Start running over and see some clown parking lot attendant riding the Ducati.
Yell at him but he pretends he can’t hear over the exhaust noise
Realize it’s a different bike and not mine
Wake up
Kinda want a ducati

So what is the most femboy motorcycle type?

>>28683609
r3 and a scooter

>>28683606
We can see what faulty electronics from 10 years ago are doing and they're massive a PITA, wether in cars or bikes. Given how much shit a bike eats in it's lifetime safe to say I'll trust 40 year old analogue cause I know what they're good for now.

>>28683607
damn
dream nigga stole your dream bike

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>>28683614

>>28683612
I seriously don't get why cagies put up with that shit. tiny display in an oven in the summer and freezer in the winter that requires taking half of the car apart to replace, if you can find a replacement.
At least with the Tenny LCD, you can take it off and bring it in with you so it doesn't sit out in the elements and there are plenty of replacements for it.

>>28683614
There was this whole other part of the dream where I was in this future world and animals were conscious and could talk and tons of people had died out
I was in a city with other people who had survived the catastrophe and I was old and bugs were eating the cement and buildings were falling apart

>>28683623
sounds like the furries won
tragic

this thread is convincing me why people like the tenere

>>28683626
personal preferences?

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45k mile service is coming up. Needs valve clearance checks

I want an nx500 but god damn I wish I could easily put my feet down on one.

>>28683626
The oven in my house was designed and probably installed before I was born. I had to have it serviced recently, and the guy just swapped out a heating element, took his payment, and told me to never ever replace it unless it died completely.

I'm not saying there's never a case for electronics on a motorcycle. But I think of shit like weapon sights from Aimpoint or Trijicon as some of the most robust electronics Incan get, and one of them that lasts a decade is considered good. If manufacters put a computer on a motorcycle, it needs to be easily accessed and replaced.

If you were shopping for a Honda Navi, would you pay slightly over book value for one with significantly lower mileage than typical or do you not see them as valuable/desirable enough to warrant that in a negotiation?

>>28683685
mileage is essentially irrelevant, it's a honda
there is not much that would make me want to pay over book vlaue for one

>>28683697
Thank you for your opinion random stranger, I feel validated.

>>28683685
Navi is dogshit, mexislop. Wouldn't buy.

>>28683610
Stfu. There is nothing femboy about it and he has a gf.

>>28683235
Go with an ADV, T7, VStrom, GS, Transalp.

>>28683748
Adventure became cringe, sorry. Even my old dog rides one, stop being part of the system.

>>28683697
Cvt is the only worry on those.

>>28683756
Then get a sumo. Norden 901. Long suspension saves spines.

>>28683572
People actually serve their bans?

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I don't think I'll ever get the throttle body sync right on this bike. I think something is fucked by design. I can get it close, but the vacuum pull on the throttle bodies will always jump around by 1-4 kpa. It won't be dead solid like the other bikes I've done.
I've checked for vacuum leaks extensively and there are none. Crankcase blow by is not excessive. Only other thing I could think is worn valve guides but I don't see how the fuck that could be since oil changes were kept up with.

Anybody experienced something like this before?

>>28683814
I do, its for glorious reason "r*cism" most of the time and I serve it with pride, and I'm brown btw.

>>28683838
Could be some sort of gasket failure. Ik you checked vacuum but have you tried compression test / pressurized the entire system.
Alternatively it could be a stuck open/closed fuel injector or fuel pressure regulator causing inconsistency

>order parts last month
>mail carrier tries to call me from an unknown number, wasn't home to answer phone nor to receive package
>just leaves a note and fucks off
>package lost in the postal system, no one can find it
>bite the bullet and order new complete heads for bike
>estimated date of delivery 4th of December
Fuck me, I fucking hate the eu and the postal services. How the fuck does it take THAT long to transport shit?
God damn I've received shit from straya and nipnogland in a week.
Is the package being delivered by a zx4r for it to be that slow?

>>28683838
Equal compression on all cylinders?

>>28683569
They don't like hard hits as much.
>>28683566
A motorcycle that wins to combine elements of touring and off-road capability. They end up being kind of sport-tourers just by that design ethos.

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>>28683640
Suzuki is truly God's motorcycle.

>>28683852
>>28683869
I haven't done a leak down or compression test yet, that would be the next step. I fucked up the throttle blade sync between the two banks by doing too much adjusting. I had to pull the throttle bodies out last night and zero the blade angles to restart the whole process.
I pulled all the injectors out and ultrasonic clean. If it was an injector causing it, it would have to be all of them.

The problem is not that I can't get all the cylinders equal. I can get them all within the same range, but they all move around by 1-4 randomly. I could see worn valve guides causing that. Maybe I could see low compression causing it, but I would think less so. Probably would have to rule that stuff out before looking any further.

>>28683871
>They don't like hard hits as much.
Fair. But if I just keep it on normal dirt it should be fine, right? I'm not silly enough to take a 500lb bike onto rocks.

>>28683980
Just for the fuck of it, pull the fpr vacuum hose off and start/crank the bike. I doubt you'll get 100% 1:1 matching for all clyinders. Key is just closing that range as possible. You're on the right track, alternatively if there's any o2 sensors on that thing then test those too just to rule it and the fpr out.

>>28683980
Properly worn guides would eat your valve seats pretty quickly, but also fuck up compression completely to the point that you're not starting that shit at all when cold.

>>28683747
guyfriend

>>28683657
Lol how tall are you?

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>>28683657
AAAAAAAAAAA YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOTS
YOU DONT NEED TO FLATFOOT A BIKE TO RIDE IT
ALMOST NOBODY CAN FLATFOOT ADV BIKES
AS LONG AS YOU CAN TIPTOE IT ON ONE SIDE YOURE GOOD

pic rel is 5'1 and 5'3 and they can ride 1250GSA
you can ride a fucking nx500

>>28684014
30in inseam.
>>28684024
Just enough one foot is off the ball.

>>28684024
>has a GIRL MOTORCYCLIST t shirt
i hate women so much

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>>28684033
>one foot is off the ball
thats fucking fine
stop being a pussy
you dont need to put your foot down when youre riding
youre not a motogp racer
theres videos of literal midgets who can barely reach the controls, riding bikes
stop making obstacles for yourself

>>28684039
someone post the qt China girl riding an ADV bike by jumping off at stoplights

>>28684040
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sHm_wizutuA

>>28684039
I ride public roads in the city though. Random stops are my normal.

While you don’t need to comfortably flatfoot a bike it does make day to day riding a lot more enjoyable when you’re not locked the fuck in at every stop
>t. Inseamlet

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>>28684047
>>28684049
cope.

>>28684040
>>28684046
more like this
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XUg5YPe8nKY

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>spent another 45mins traveling 8 miles during rush hour
I AM getting a fucking Grom and I WILL lane split.

>>28684118
>lane splitting on a grom
not worth it, just get a scooter and an airhorn

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>>28684128
What about a Honda Navi?
It's an automatic transmission. But it has a carburetor which is a downside IMO (technophobes need not reply).

>>28684133
>steelies
>yosh exhaust
>fucking subwoofer in the cargo space

I hate it and want it at the same time

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>>28683838
/wrenching/

>>28684133
lane splitting on small bikes like that is just asking to get sideswiped
even with the loudest can you can find, people just wont see you or care that youre there

>>28684195
I'm not talking about splitting, but filtering, and through basically stopped traffic, if at most 5mph

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So, I bought the Honda.
It's fun.

I could write five paragraphs about how cool (literally) it feels to finally, after 15 years of not making use of my license, to ride a bike.
Picked it up from the honda dealership in the late afternoon and spent about 2hrs driving home. 90% of that on the highway, which was very cold.

I need a garage.
And my hands hurt a little and I might've caught a cold, but I didn't die despite it being a "hurrr 1000!!!" ccm bike.
I am aware that I'm the person with literally the least riding experience in the entire thread, but I'd still like to say that apparently, if you don't WANT to ride like a racecar driver, the bike doesn't react as if the road was a racetrack. In fact, the bike reacts perfectly fine and controllable, at least in rain and normal mode.
Didn't try sports mode yet (won't for a while either), but so far I did not have a moment where I feld like the engine was ambushing me with it's power/acceleration. Hope it stays that way.

I love taking pictures of it, but I'm shit at photography.

>>28684234
>I am aware that I'm the person with literally the least riding experience in the entire thread
Well about that... I don't even have license yet and only riding scooters, so no worries.

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Today I dropped the bike

>>28684234
it's not the worst motophoto i've seen. you didn't doxx yourself with reflections or something

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/dbt/ meet up 2023

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>>28684234
Looking at the photo, I've noticed that the foot of the sidestand is fairly small and I'm afraid that it might sink into the ground when it rains, making the bike fall over.

Are these side stand enlarger pads (from aliexpress or "official" shops for 4x the price) worth it?

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>>28684260
>side stand enlarger pads (from aliexpress or "official" shops for 4x the price)

>>28684260
these aren't necesssary, i ride a 800lb bike with a smaller kickstand than that and it doesn't sink in to wet ground. if you're real worried about it, get one of these, or just put a small block of wood in your saddlebag

>>28684260
does your bike not have a centre stand?

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>>28684252
>>28684269
Better pic right after I started my way home, you can see the side stand.
Right now it's parted on a cobblestone road and the stand looks stable enough, but I can't even imagine having an 800lb bike rest it's entire weight on such a small area.
For comparison, my bike is "only" 468lb/212kg and it feels so heavy that I went out of my way to park it on stable ground.

What is riding an 800lb bike even like on lower speeds? I'm still struggling to not drop my bike during very tight turns and even though it caught it every time, despite being fit it feels like trying to stop a boulder from rolling away.
Feels like with twice that weight, once you lose balance it's fucking over?

>>28684278
Sadly not.
Before making the decision between the Honda and the Suzuki, I even called Honda Yurope about the center stand because I didn't find any options online.
They explained to me that at least the Hornet CB1000 can't fit a center stand and can't be adapted to fit one because the frame doesn't have a mount for one in the first place. There simply is nowhere on the frame to attach it to.

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/meow-meow/
Meow
Mewo
Baiku
>>28684288
>800
Meow, meow meow meow moew
Meoe

>>28684291
oh, that's fucked

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>>28684288
That is a pretty big kickstand pad already, I wouldn't worry about it sinking in at all. Gratz on the bike & welcome to club honda
800lb bike at low speed is not bad at all, took me about a week to get used to it, bike wants to stay upright so long as it's moving. only thing that will fuck you on this is parallel parking facing downhill, takes a lot of effort to pull it back up but it's possible

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>>28684257
lmaoooo
hope the guy is ok though

Just rode past a fatality. Saw a bunch of CHP cars then saw the bike laid down.

>>28684319
RIP

>>28684195
Once again you, the faggot nobike, don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

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>>28684288
The stand is fine. I have a Honda with the same kickstand and weight.
The weight is another reason people don't recommend 1000s to newbies.
See, with experience on smaller bikes that inspire confidence you wouldn't have these kinds of questions. Too many people think just hp and speed are the reasons to start smaller.

Anyway. Confidence. You need to practice more. Feet stay on the pegs unless you're actually gonna fall over. Dangle leg twinkle toes are for boomers on cruisers and the bike is too heavy to catch when rolling.
When going slow speed, just use the rear brake to moderate speed. Rear brake while driving forwards gives a feeling of confidence. Don't try to moderate the throttle or clutch because that gives you 3 variables to control the bike's speed and that's too much. Just halfway clutch and a little throttle and keep em there control your speed with just rear brake.

Do that and practice. When you're confident, try 'pushing' the bike down. Lean the bike over while you're staying upright. Google 'Motogymkhana' and see what's possible. It's getting cold and wet now so don't push your luck

>>28684319
Is it laid down because it was involved in the crash or because the rider bailed to get out of traffic? I've seen bikes laid down because the rider immediately stopped and jumped onto the sidewalk to avoid the waterfall of idiots behind him that would likely not stop in time for the actual wreck.

>>28684325
As a starting exercise, just try weaving at idle speed.
1st gear, don't touch the clutch, don't touch the throttle let the bike trundle along at idle speed. Try circles and figure 8s. If you feel like you're gonna fall over, just add a tiny bit of throttle and straighten out.
That's a good confidence building exercise

I see groms splitting and filtering all the time.

>>28684331
It was on the on ramp. Looked like a lack of skill put him into the left side wall.

>>28684331
Also there were no wrecked cars. Just the laid down bike and a bunch of cop cars.

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>>28684343
/knower/

I split and filter pretty often, but the other day it seemed like every car was syncing their sideview mirrors and were so close together.

I'm going to lose my v card this weekend, all because I met a woman with the same bike as mine.
Thank you Honda.

>>28684385
>virgin
>rides a honda
pottery
but in honesty good shit anon, have fun

>>28684343
>>28684367
>>28684385
You guys always just throw packets into the intervoid like this?

>>28684349
>>28684346
oh yea no hes fucked
F

>>28684388
Are those posts not good enough for your /dbt/?

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>>28684325
>>28684339
Will try that as soon as I get some crash bars (pic related).
I don't care how they make the bike look, but I'm not gonna ruin my new bike doing slalom and weaves.

>>28684267
Best option. Not a big deal if you forget it. Pretty much works for any suface.

>>28684392
no! non-reply posts need a picture minimum otherwise I end up scrolling past them with as if they were shitposts by anons ""schizoposting""

>>28684399
I sometimes will skip reply chains to find solo posts to see if they're starting a conversation.

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>>28684234
congrats anon
throw a tailtidy on 'er and you'll be reet

>>28683995
The fuel pressure regulator has no vacuum hose and is integral to the fuel pump in the tank. At least to my knowledge, I'll have to check again.

>>28683996
I was thinking they might slightly worn. Most of the time, the throttle is pretty rough below 5k rpms until it gets warmed up a bit. Not properly fucked but slightly worn.

>>28684385
remember to tell her youre gay

>>28684260
How much is a hockey puck?

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For a while now I’ve been having so many issues with my bike and worrying about not putting wear on certain parts and saving my miles/tires for weekends. I was beginning to feel like maybe I don’t love riding as much as I used to. I felt apathetic and annoyed going 2 weeks just commuting to and from work. All I could think about while riding was what needs to be fixed.
Got sick and went almost a full week without riding.
Just got home from work and oh my god oh my god oh my god I forgot how amazing it feels to ride. The feeling of freedom, that I can go do whatever I want whenever I want. The feeling of being connected to everything around me, being able to fully sense every location I ride by. The feeling of power and agility, the strength and ability to do so much more. The feeling of peace and connection to my machine, the adoration and love of my machine. Every sound, every vibration, every tick, click, and quirk was a warm reminder of what I love
Thank you motorcycles

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which bike is this one

>>28684118
I'm always scared I'd hit someone's car

>>28684661
Nakadoshi 690

>>28684343
Its fun dive bombing into two lines of cars like a peregrine

>>28684234
That's a cool 1000. Cool baik.

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>>28684385
One room or two rooms?

>>28684234
>>28684288
Huh, actual pay off to a guy talking about buying a bike in multiple threads.
Noice

>>28684685
We can now look forward to his inevitable "I wrecked my new bike" post.

>>28684685
Somewhat related: >>28684700
>>28684791
Hopefully not so related. Ominous captcha: WHAK 2

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>>28684385
Are you gonna leave us hanging or are you gonna tell us the story, anon?
It's a slow night.

>>28684826
>buying BOHZ helmets
how poor are you?

>>28684856
Wtf is a bohz helmet

>>28684886
it's a helmet for 'riders' who ride their bike every second weekend during summer then park it for the rest of the year

>>28684886
too expensive.
>these anons dont even know I make 200k per year

>>28684891
I ride at least 2 days a week.

>>28684894
I don't understand why he's calling me poor for a quality helmet that costs $450 lol

>>28684938
The mirrored shoei looks like it says BOHZ.

>>28684944
Oh, right. Kek

>>28684676
690cc... that must be one tall woman... hot.........

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YAMAHA

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wDMqzBY0b2g
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kWSDO8_UBRw
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ULWIBaXySUs

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>>28684826
/slownight/

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>>28684385
Don't be a creep

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My bike has a carbon tail and doesn't have a trunk lid. It's a bit cracked too but not structurally compromised. Should I spend the 600-1k robux to get a new one that does have a trunk lid? Its a keeper bike but the tail on it JustWorks.

>>28685032
>Pic unrelated ofc, God I wish.

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FUCK YES
FINALLY THIS THING IS BACK ON THE ROAD
After months of blood sweat and tears she lives

>>28685060
hnngh

How long is reasonable for a backstreet repair shop full of bikes and parts to fix something left with them? I don't trust myself to fit tires but I reckon I could have a go and the disconnected speedo and charging myself once I get a stand. Instead she sits there in front of the shop in the rain. They have been there since the 1950s and by the mob of bikers lurking around clearly have a good reputation.

>>28685095
Tires I leave to the shops because they have the weaponry to fling rubber on and off in 20minutes.

Everything else I do myself because after the amount of mistakes I've made over the tiniest things, I couldn't trust anyone else to do the job. C-washers that are designed to cover a little dowel pin in your can sprocket you wouldn't notice unless you read the note in the clymer manual and could cause your engine to obliterate itself if you easily installed the washer the other way around, etc.

If you just want the shop to change your tires, it shouldn't take more than two or so hours if the wheels are on the bike, 20 or so minutes if you took the wheels off the bike and brought all the stuff to them.

Everything else is a cointoss because of parts

>>28685102
I'll go see them today. It also has a minor oil leak from the gearbox but I think that is likely to have been there years, given the previous owner gave me two bottles of gearbox oil.

I wouldn't mind paying for them to sort but if it is going to be weeks to look at it I might as well have a go myself.

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>>28684791
>>28684685
I'm still too much of a pussy to rip the throttle and with weather like pic related, I don't think I'll ever leave rain mode.

Could somebody tell me what the leather handle on the rear seat is for?
Is it a handle for the passenger or just there to make it easier to open the seat compartment?

>>28685136
Vestigial passenger handle.

>>28685138
Good to know.
Never seen a passenger really use them, most of the time they just seem to hold onto the driver (which makes more sense to me).

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What an incredible bike

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>>28685144
I was SO close to buying the new Katana because I fell in love with the design before I had even read anything about the bike. Would've gone for the same price as the honda as well, with ~4000km and 2 years older.
What ultimately put me off was the small tank (12L) and the old fashioned LCD in the dash. Suzuki pricing is out of this world.

Still, it looks so fucking cool that if I had the money and the display was a bit more modern, I'd haven chosen the suzuki.

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>>28685144
Here

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>>28685150
I’m convinced that small tank is the only reason it didn’t sell
If there was a proper long haul touring variant of it I would put the money down in a heartbeat, in the Japanese market there was even a manufacturer making aftermarket full size gas tanks in Katana styling specifically for the nu-katana
I love Suzuki but for the life of me I don’t understand why they won’t listen to their customers on this one. Who the fuck wants to ride a literbike with a 3 gallon gas tank????

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>>28685144
>>28685150
I also really wish they gave a proper full sized bench seat, look at how much fucking seat you get!!!! I would love to have that much extra room on my bike!!!!

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>>28685159
>why they won’t listen to their customers on this one

They never listen.

>add plastic = R7 btfo
>add more cc = Ducati V2 btfo

it's that simple, they're just stupid, they have everything in their hands right there in front of them and they refuse to do anything

>>28685136
>leather handle
to take the seat on/off and hang it up
theyre not for holding on to

>>28685144
>>28685150
the new katana actually looks so nice, but yeah that tank just kills it for me
less than 100mile range, thats almost harley territory
my sportsbike leaderbike gets close to 210 on a full tank, why the fuck did they make the katanas so small

>>28685136
women use it to masturbate
no really

>>28684257
>picks up guy by the belt like he's a fucking toddler lying on the supermarket floor

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Do they acually do anything or are they useless?
Watched an old FortNine video about them and they argued that these things are a waste of money, even though they're fairly cheap.

>>28685200
Yes they do something.

>>28685200
Well they should come with any pair of trousers or jacket worth getting, so hardly a waste of money. And yes the do something. I don't remember exactly what point Fortnine was trying to make but it was something along the lines of they won't stop you dying or having your leg torn off. But what they can do is prevent broken bones.

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>lass
>schizosister
>"nobike"
>ERM
>kek
>jej
>anything remotely interesting
>who ya quotin lass
>when my shoulder heals
>10 clips of low-speed filtering but they get increasingly gay
>100% of thread
pouring one out for the legend, never seen a guy go so hard at posting

>>28685150
>got to have my screens! Couldnt possibly ride that bike, the screen isnt nearly good enough!
People like you are why modern bikes and cars suck

>>28685227
>why modern bikes and cars suck
explain how having a better screen is somehow worse, please.

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>>28685200
They’re not for protecting you from a collision they’re there to help offset the damage of the many thumps you’re gonna take when you go down.
It might not help if you hit a guardrail but it’ll definitely help if you start tumbling at 65mph down the road

>>28685208
His point was that the standardization makes it so they stop at what the standards are for development(which isn't even close to true) and therefore they are useless.
Idk what brain damage you need tto get there and still support airbags by the end of the video(they have 1 no clear testing at all period on most brands)

>>28685247
Back one is actually tested on uneven surfaces usually, the others are not. This is why there are multiple types of spine protectors because they go through extensive testing for what the planned use is. Street you want super high density foam or silicone on the strike face for back and not a homogeneous pad, unfortunately japanese brands tend to do homogeneous back protection.

>>28685231
better screens are great for browsing twatter or whatever
no screens is better for riding motorcycle

>>28685295
>>28685231
>>28685227
He'a referring to how a lot of LCD designs suck shit and are hard to read. A few can look cool, but it should either be twin clocks or a TFT that's actually bright enough.

>>28682813
How do I convince my boomer father that there is nothing wrong with using Rotella T6 15W-40 in a gas motorcycle even though Lake Speed Jr.’s shitty video says otherwise?

>>28685200
>Watched an old FortNine video about them and they argued that these things are a waste of money, even though they're fairly cheap.
FortNine sells expensive gear at a premium. While it's true that Airbags are superior in terms of impact resistance they're not in terms of cost and abrasion resistance.
Airbags aren't going to save you if you have a Gixxerbrah situation and get thrown into a wall of urban tank steel. Likewise the difference between an accident where these things can help and an airbag can help is miniscule.

In his video, he puts a plate over a bowl of cream cheese and the airbag over the same bowl and beats it with a bat. Now, I don't know about you, but I haven't met a human who is made of cream cheese, and the point of this armor and why it was engineered is to get impact ratings down to where it doesn't break a bone.

On that front, these things are absolutely effective and he's tricked a bunch of people into not even wearing armor at all that could save lengthy hospital stays even for minor drops and slides.

Also good luck finding a good airbag pant that doesn't suck, they don't exist. But tons of armored pants exist.

>>28685344
>How do I convince my boomer father
You don't, let him put in the meme royal purple or whatever he demands.

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>>28685060
nice

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the darkness consumes

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>>28685247
>wolfcycles not made anymore
Why would Suzuki do this to us?

>>28685155
Beluga whale mcFat fuck face doesn't come close to the Goat.

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>>28685060
Nice. I just got my xt350 on the road for autumn season.

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>>28685396
Suzuki is terrible and has lost to Yamaha

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>>28685406
Damn that looks nice.
Makes my dirty and unstylish xt250 feel humiliated

>>28685410
Mine looks nice in the picture but it is definitely a used example rather than a showpiece. 40k km on odo. Yours looks way more modern and usable.

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>>28685399
>R7 is faster and quicker than Katana 1000
it's over old man

>>28684040
Bugs arent cute.

>>28685428
You are comparing k5 gsxr and mt07, its really obvious who wins, but I'm gonna remind you delulu fags that yamahaha is not even in the same league.

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>>28685438
They are though.

>>28685407
One company has gsxr100 and the other has R9. I wonder which brand is based. Don't forget the breaking frames in the current gen R9s.

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>>28685419
It's definitely modern, but the extra 100cc would be nice.
Apparently even the xt250 is being phased out according to rumors.

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scooterchads, r8 the styling

Post perfect TFT display layout.

>>28685460
0/10. Vespa is 8/10 and Burgman 650 is 9/10 and Italjet 200 is 10/10.

>>28685448
>>28685467
Whatever current gen BMW r1300gs has.

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>>28685448
Are you a jealous roastie?

>>28685460
having an eyeball inside of a wheel has always raised serious implications about gravel

>>28685478
Honda X-Adv is best scooter. Close second is chinese Zontes 368G purely because it's a copy of the first one but better priced (in eastern europe and asia only).

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>>28685467
pic related

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>>28685136
what does "rain mode" do?

>>28685482
NTA but I am a turboweeb who has somehow managed to never once be attracted to asian woman, of any nationality. We do exist, but I'm not sure what I missed when it comes to asian women.

>>28685200
Do you really need to outsource your critical thinking for this?
Would you rather have an inch of rubber between you and the belt sander floor or just your naked skin? idgaf about well akshully statistics. All bike jeans come with them so you'd be retarded to take them out

>>28685583
>
nta what's the best motorcycle jean/pant?

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>>28685150
That screen is one of the LCD best displays I've ever seen in a production bike. It's neo retro like the rest of it.

Reminder that's manufacturers only want to put TFTs on your bike so they can display service reminders that only official dealers can remove.

>>28685588
You really gonna outsource all of your decisions?

>>28685592
probably better to ask an informed opinion over hoping my uninformed one is right

>>28685594
You've got an internet connection

>>28685588
The biggest difference in those is that in fancier ones the Kevlar is actually woven into the fabric, whereas the cheaper ones have a Kevlar lining. E.g. BMW branded ones are well fitting while the cheap ones from mystery companies might feel uncomfortable with their Kevlar lining being wrinkly badly in place. As for the brands, I think all the name brands are potentially good and the biggest difference comes from how they are put together

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>>28685559
Consider yourself lucky. I'm a japmaxxer. Jap automobile, jap media, jap porn, jap women. Anything Japan is just better in my eyes.

>>28685493
Xadv is awesome, no contest desu. But, chink clone? Come on.

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>>28685091
>>28685392
>>28685406
>>28685410
postin hotwang's 350 with a supertrapp

>>28685617
I enjoy Japanese bikes but not sideways hairy yellow sushi pussy.

>lost my keys and gloves at home after parking the bike
How do you deal with early onset dementia as a motorbike owner?

>>28682813
threado

>>28685642
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>>28685618
PCX is sexier than ADV

>>28685630
wangs got a good 350

>>28685247
That ur bike bro?
>>28685200
Yes, Ive tested them