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"Rose of Sharon" edition
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>>2768315
Cleaned up my balcony containers
Man what a shitty planting season this year
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I finally compared and taste tested all my this year peppers, I said I would do it weeks ago but better late than never.
Upper row are all sweet, bottom row are all hot.
Marked with star are my internal names of peppers that are hybrids from seeds or I simply don't know the name.

Taste:
Ingrid, Prawie Słodka, Oleńka are sweet, classic red pepper but even sweeter taste and without bland pepper like flavor store bought peppers usually have
Ożarowska is similar but a bit less sweet and a bit more bitter
Nocturn is also similar but a bit more pepper like bland, still really good
Zlata is sweet but inferior in flavor to all of them, won't be planting it again
Illyn Orange is unique, sweet but also acidic type of taste, kind of refreshing, my brother really liked it
Poupila is only a bit sweet, more bitter, worse taste wise but the only micro dwarf I have
Hot pepper are hot, cayenne and those tiny red ones are really hot, rokita and hybrid much less so

Plant:
Nocturn is the largest (but not by a large margin), robust and very prolific
Rokita, Ożarowska, Prawie słodka are a bit weaker but still really good
Illyn Orange, Cayenne and Zlata are decent, not as good but still not bad
Ingrid is quite small, looks stunted compared to others, it is still quite prolific but peppers take very long to mature
I have only one hybrid, it's good but that's simply too small sample size to draw significant conclusions
Others are all micro dwarfs, poupila, and the smallest red hot are best out of them

Other stuff:
Ożarowska get damaged and rots on plant easily
Oleńka has really nice shape
Nocturn can be nearly black or red for some reason, no idea how it works
Cayenne air dries very well, Rokita not really


I recommend Ingrid, Nocturn, Ożarowska, Illyn Orange, Cayenne and Rokita for normal planting.
Pupila only if want a micro dwarf.

Overall I'm really satisfied I have way more peppers than I can eat so I started to pickle them to manage their numbers.
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>>2768416
Old photo of plants themselves I already posted before, I'll make new one tomorrow.
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armored up my loupes. lets see you take a bite outta them now ya filthy varmints.
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i don't want to hear about just the homegrowmen, but the homegrowomen and homegrowchildren too.
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>>2768315
>he used my pic
Thank
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I planted some Garlic chives but after watching a video of a Chinese chef using them in a stir fry I feel like I can't grow enough to use an ingredient once a week, only as a garnish
Also it seems people sow these way more densely than I thought
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>>2768523
*as an
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Are there any perennial flowers that bloom year round? Or plants that look pretty year round?
Ideally ones that can serve as a visual cover for my balcony.
Zone 7 if that helps
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>>2768528
Indoor yes
Outdor in zone 7... ehhh
Violas will bloom from early spring to late summer if you deadhead them every month or two. Learn to love dandelions and wall lettuce--they bloom all year as well.

You could do an indoor/outdoor begonia (or any tropical plant really) but the only plant I know of that will bloom year round is the African Violet. I've had one in near constant bloom from summer to winter for almost ten years. It's pink.

--side note violas are also in the violet family.
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>>2768580
Sorry, the my African violet blooms all winter too--excuse my engrish.
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>>2768523
Chives are perennial so they will spread and fill in
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>>2768390
What was so shitty about it?
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>>2768315
Anyone else do perennial plant hybridizing? I hybridize daylilies. Pictured is Explosion In The Paint Factory, one I've used as a parent plant. None of its kids have matured yet, so I've yet to see the results.
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>>2768528
Delosperma ice plants are frost hardy and invasive if planted in areas like California, but in areas where you can control it you will have a plant that you can barely kill that blooms from spring to fall. Indoor it might bloom in winter too.
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What can I do to try to help a peach tree cutting to actually take root instead of rotting?
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>>2768809
How/when do you get seeds from daylilies? Never found seeds from mine. Didn't flower this year either.
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>>2768870
Air layer it before you take the cutting or take dozens of cuttings
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>>2768416
Which one was the favorite?
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>>2768887
Let's say I already have the cutting, it's a lone cutting, and I want it to succeed. What should I do?
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So a lone hornworm ate a bunch of my pepper plant. Should I trim away all the parts that have no leaves or leave it? What should be done in general when a plant gets a lot of pest damage?
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>>2768902
Trim it if it's fruiting or starting to fruit, otherwise leave it. When a plant has pest damage the first step is to identify the pest. After that you can make a plan to kill or repel the pest. Finally, you should consider whether to change your gardening methods for next year. Depending on the pest, you might want to avoid growing that crop, or possibly any crop in that genus. One example would be squash bugs. Intercropping can help prevent pests, and trap crops can draw them away from your plants. Making shelters for predators and avoiding non-target pesticides can provide biological controls. A mycorrhizal network can help move defense chemicals between plants which will help prevent pests, help the plant survive, and prepare other plants for those pests.
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>>2768892
Pray. The best results I've had is to treat the wound with aloe or honey mixed with cayenne pepper or cinnamon and a rooting hormone before putting the end in a potato and planting it in a well draining soil with a humidity dome like a jar or a 2L bottle. Make a hole in the potato before you insert the cutting
I have had fruit trees cuttings grow new leaves, but I've never had them root successfully. You might try a sterile potting soil, or mycorrhizal fungi, or an aeroponic rooting machine. Good luck, anon.
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>>2768947
I might try some mad science where I concentrate the rooting hormone in water, soak a sponge, squeeze the sponge out to remove excess, and then wrap the sponge around the cutting and tie it. Because I don't have sphagnum on hand, but plain sponges are cellulose.
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>>2768960
That could work out. Post your results.
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Fairly new to gardening, I ordered some sweet potato slips and they have these giant spots on them where part of the leaf died. Anyone know what these are or what I can do about it? Not sure if it's some kind of fungus or virus.
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almost squished this lil fella by accident opening the door to the shit box going into pick some tomatoes and peppers. wrangled him into a deli container and let him loose in the shitbox. he watched me pick the garden and is currently upside down on the tallest part of my pepper plant.

so fucking cool.
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>>2768990
check the look of the disease against this site:
https://www.uaex.uada.edu/yard-garden/resource-library/diseases/
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>>2768881
I get the seeds from the seed pods that form after the flower finishes. The seed pods typically mature in early autumn. To get seed pods it helps to pollinate the flowers yourself. If your daylilies haven't sent up flowers in a while you need to either put them in a place with more sun or dig them up and divide them so they have more space to grow. Also some plants are sterile, so they never form seed pods at all. Some of the common orange daylilies are like that.
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>>2768421
>women
We tried this a few times but it always ended in incellic screeching.
For the record, my woman is quite good at gardening and is keener on canning than I am. She’s now organized a press to not let our bumper crop of apples go to waste. And our homegrown children do enjoy gardening too.
Finally planted some kale with the help of the 2yo yesterday. Should I mulch around it with grass cuttings or should I try to grow some spinach between? Internet says spinach is a good companion to kale.
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>>2769087
Both. Half of the nitrogen in green manure is available in the first year and leafy greens love nitrogen.
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>>2769015
I also made a fren this morning. I found five oothecas during spring cleanup and placed them around my property, one being a few feet away from my blueberry bed where this guy is
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>>2769198
>>2769199
neat!
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Anotha one
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>>2769230
same :D

I just went out to water cause every damn thing was wilting and I found this fren guarding the maters'
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>>2769239
forgot pic

I really have to work out a more reliable irrigation system for next year. container gardening without it is a pain in the ass. please don't waste money on soaker hoses.
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>>2768580
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>>2768815
Thank you for the suggestions frens <3
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First time growing winter squash, the texture on the rind is just incredible.
Only got seeds in the ground at the end of June but they're growing so fast I don't think it mattered much. The problem is that the four plants have spread 15ft across my plot and take up far too much space. Next year I'll probably try growing them vertically up a trellis.
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>>2769015
I have mantises guarding most of my plants right now, I love those fuckers I get no pests.
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>>2768889
Subjectively "Oleńka" because I really like the shape.
Objectively tho, it has to be "Nocturn", good taste, fantastic yield and the earliest of all my sweet peppers, also I had construction work on my property and fellow gardener working in construction asked about it because he loved distinct black pepper look so it also looks great.
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>>2769240
just get 20mm hose and regulated drip heads. costs half as much as drip hoses.
Cheaper again is 5mm spray heads but you should only use them at night because evaporation is a big problem.
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>>2768417
wow, that's a great little setup.
What kind of plastic did you use for the ground sheet?
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>>2769240
You should have used 1/4" soaker hose and 1/4" drip line. Run the drip line between each planter, hold it down with some garden stakes, and T off to the soaker hose. The length of soaker hose in each planter determines the proportion of water each planter gets so you use longer sections for thirstier plants.
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>>2769524
I think I'm just going to do a custom thing with polyethylene tubing and brass fittings. I need to have more output because it's just too hot and windy here, everything evaporates so quickly.
>>2769541
Right, my problem was it wouldn't distribute water evenly. The containers in the beginning of the loop would get flooded and the ones at the end would get barely anything.
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>>2769548
Maybe you could make a water tower of sorts, take a homer bucket and put it on a chair or platform or something, then have tubes coming down off it like an octopus or something
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>>2769541
>Splitting anything from 1/4
That's a bad idea, 1/4 already has low flow, adding even more load will drop pressure below minimal very quickly
I have 32mm main pipe and distribute with 16mm which is like 5/8 iirc and max length at my 1 bar pressure for 3 liter per hour is 'only' 66 meters total, at 1/4 you probably wouldn't even get 20 meters
Always look up maximal length at your pressure and get wider diameter or add more sections if you exceed it

>soaker hose
Soker hoeses suck, they are expensive, they don't last long and they have no pressure compensation

>>2769548
>my problem was it wouldn't distribute water evenly
You need pressure compensated drip line for equal distribution or large diameter pipe that can deliver enough flow to have only slight pressure drop from beginning to end
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>>2769548
>Right, my problem was it wouldn't distribute water evenly.
You can adjust the lengths of the soaker hose to fix that, but it shouldn't be that dramatic of a difference. You plugged the ends with a goof plug, right? If the end isn't closed then a soaker hose won't work properly.

>>2769556
>at 1/4 you probably wouldn't even get 20 meters
It's for potted plants. He shouldn't need a run of 20 meters, he shouldn't even need a run of 10 meters, and 1/4" is much more flexible than 5/8" hose.

>Soker hoeses suck, they are expensive, they don't last long and they have no pressure compensation
They're cheap where I live and they work just fine for my strawberries. You don't really need pressure compensation with short runs. You aren't supposed to run a single length over your whole garden.
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>>2769199
When I was like 5 or 6, us boys saw one on the playground and one kid said if you look in their eyes, you'll go blind. Many years later, I realized some part of me held onto that belief far longer than it should have, kek.
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live in zone 7 still worth planting tomato cuttings?
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>>2769803
No, too late, seed radish instead, now is the perfect time
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>>2769803
Not outside, but it you can keep them alive all winter then you'll have huge tomatoes next year
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>>2769891
might try this they are San Marzano so far the fruit has only been 3cm long this year.
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It just keeps happening
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>flower on tomato plant startes to die befire giving fruit after having no problems initially
>barely one tomato per group of flowers
How do I stop this?
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>>2769909
Average high temp in your area? This kept happening until 8 stopped getting 100 degree days now I'm getting tomatoes again.
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>>2768417
Update from a different angle

>>2769525
The thinnest landscaping fabric I could find.
Strongly recommend, I have zero weeds there and need to do zero weeding.
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Why is my japanese long eggplant so obese?
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>>2769909
Sounds like a calcium deficiency to me
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Muh figs. I'll probably have to replace some next year but most are doing well
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>>2769973
Nice figs. I wish mine were doing so well, but I started them late from cuttings, it's hot as balls this year and I can water them only once a week.
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The thumbnail of this thread is so subtle I missed it twice. I’m extremely happy to say I’ve created 1000 square feet for garden rows for the fall growing season.
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RIP front lawn. Replacing it with rock. Also adding 3 8'x2' raised beds. Going to grow garlic, peppers and tomatoes out there.

I'm glad I rented a sod cutter made it go fairly quickly. I should have cut a couple strips then checked how close the cuts were. I ended up leaving about 2" between cuts which made for extra residual stuff to clean up.
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>>2769928
>Average high temp in your area?
around 85°F, is that too much? Would shading them help?

>Sounds like a calcium deficiency to me
I applied a egg shells and vinegar mixture a few weeks ago; I guess I could try again
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>>2770010
How do the leaves look? Are they nice and dark green?
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>>2770014
>Are they nice and dark green?
Yeah they look normal; some of the older ones are crupled but it doesn't look like tomato blight
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>>2769945
This is the kind of operation we need more of, practical, productive, not some kind of Instagram LARP by urban vermin.

Have you tried grafted nightshades? I bring my chillies up from seed and am not really sure why graft nightshade exists. Are they cheap in commercial quantities or are they some kind of curiosity?
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>>2769946
Sometimes you get chodes. Can't help it bro
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>>2770015
Then it shouldn't be a problem with NPK. Is it really humid where you are?
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>>2770010
85 is probably too high if they get all day sun. Mine stopped dropping flowers with a few high 70s days and low 80s.
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>>2770010
>Would shading them help?
It could, tomatoes do significantly worse in full sun than in partial shade in my experience and I'm only in zone 6, I get why some people in warmer climates use shade cloth when growing tomatoes.
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I hate squirrels so much
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I'm done starting grape wine, gonna post detailed tutorial with pictures when I'm done with clean up
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Step one of making wine: locate suitable ripe fruit, in this case European white grapes
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>>2770315
Step two: harvest fruit
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>>2770316
Step three: rinse with water
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>>2770317
Step four: separate fruits from stems and get rid of damage and diseased fruits
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>>2770318
Step five: pulp your fruits, the goal is to damage skins but not seeds so blending is a bad idea in case of grapes
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>>2770319
At this point you are done with mandatory starting steps, you can pour it into wine making jar and it'll turn into wine over time.

Optional step one: measure sugar content, in this case it's 15 BLG, somewhat low for grapes but good enough, can be improved with more sugar tho
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>>2770322
Optional step two: prepare yeast

It'll still work with wild yeast that is already on your grapes but results can vary so I prefer adding store bought winemaking yeast
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>>2770323
Step six: pour wine into winemaking jar with proper air lock
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>>2770324
Optional step three: add yeast, yeast starter, pecten, sugar and stir everything

None of those are mandatory but I added yeast and sugar, when adding sugar it's best to dissolve it into boiled water and wait a while until it cools down, I dissolved 1 kilogram of sugar in 1 liter of water.
Also since water with dissolved sugar will be warm add it first and stir it in then add yeast so it doesn't die from heat.
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>>2770326
Forgot my picture

>>2770323
Also on yeast preparation, it highly depends on the form of yeast you buy, mine only needs to be rehydrated in room temperature water but others might need addition of sugars and several hours to be ready
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>>2770327
Step seven: lock your jar and prime airlock

Your airlock design may vary, I like this one a lot because it has really low profile but it makes it hard to see pressure differential between jar and outside, doubt it'll be visible on photos.
Jar must be airtight for fermentation to work, if it's not there will be no pressure differential in airlock and you have a big problem.
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>>2770329
I forgot one optional but highly recommended step: wash your jar (lid too) and disinfect any bacteria

I first clean it with normal dish detergent then use potassium metabisulfite to kill any bacteria contamination then rinse it again to remove it, don't want it to kill yeast later when I add it.
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>>2770330
That's it for now, with all those steps done wine should start working within several hours to a day, at most three days if no yeast is added.
I'll update you as fermentation progresses.

Also is anyone interested in pickling sweet peppers?
I'll be picking mine tomorrow, could also write how to on them.
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>>2770329
This is how airlock usually looks like, pressure differential can be observed by looking at two water chambers.
This design can be added to any jar, just drill the lid, add a seal and put this S type airlock in.

One important thing is to never let it run dry, water needs to be refilled every so often depending on design, my low profile design needs to be refilled quite often.
Another thing I forgot to mention is to never fill your jar more than 3/4 because it'll start bubbling when fermentation starts and bubbles should never reach the airlock.
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13 pounds 4 ounces. Today I am a proud papa.
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>>2770331
How long until you drink the wine? Also interested in the pickling.
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>>2770335
I think your child was born a vegetable I am so sorry anon
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>>2767779
Shut your gob, you fart-sniffer; you needn't lecture me. And indeed, we're not the same.
Taxes exist, and lands do not pay for themselves, unless you work for them. This particular one hasn't been worked on for more than 3 decades, and so it's high time for it to make it worth the cost of both having said land and of its maintenance.

But anyways, the straw has in the meantime been packaged and stored.
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>>2770331
>Also is anyone interested in pickling sweet peppers?
I'll be picking mine tomorrow, could also write how to on them.
Yes please.
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The trees are starting to drop their leaves 3/4 weeks early due to the drought

>feelsbadman.jpg
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>>2770029
>Have you tried grafted nightshades?
No, never, doesn't seem worth the effort to me.
Maybe if you keep them potted as perennials for years it would be worth it but as annuals you are setting your peppers back a few weeks with already really short season, just not worth it.

>>2770354
You can drink it at any time.
Now it's only a really good grape juice now but in just a week it'll have significant alcohol content, I'll get rid of seeds and grape leftovers at that time and I'll probably siphon off one bottle for early tasting.
Two to three weeks it's basically done fermenting with very little sugar left and can be drank at that time too, it's already pretty good even so early on even if cloudy and with a lot of sediment.
But for proper bottling it's usually over half a year when all the sediment falls to bottom and it clears up.

>>2770511
I'm pasteurizing the peppers in my oven right now, will post how to when I'm done with cleaning.
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>"garden renovation / restoration!"
>they remove all vegetation and leave just a green floor of grass
Why are they like this?
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I finished the first of my planters 2 x 8 raised beds for the front yard. Just need to get some corner trim to cover the edges of the metal. I'm going to rely on the 4x4 posts, and bottom edge of the edging being buried to provide much of the rigidity, hopefully that works out. The edging metal is very easy to bend but its only 10" tall so it shouldn't bow out. A single 20 foot roll of rusty metal edging from Amazon was enough for 1 bed. I used 2x4s to temporarily hold the 4x4s together while screwing on the metal.
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>>2770329
Firstly wine update, you can tell it's working when bubbles come out from airlock, like this in my airlock design.
It also should be stirred daily because otherwise topmost layer of fruit skins will dry out and that can cause all kinds of undesirable outcomes.
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Now for pepper pickling, firstly you obviously need to get some peppers, I harvested about 4.5 kg today

Next you need to prepare pickling solution, composition for about 1.5 kilograms of sweet peppers is:
>1 liter of water
>400 ml of 10% spirit vinegar
>150 grams of sugar, dissolved
>15 grams of iodine free salt, dissolved
Numbers can be obviously multiplied, I used 3 times of everything for 4.5 kilograms

First get water to boil then mix everything and stir until it's dissolved, leave to cool off.
This should be done early on because it needs time to cool off.
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>>2770594
Next part is cutting peppers into slices and removing any bad parts.
Pretty straightforward but takes a while.
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>>2770596
Next you need jars, pretty much any jar will do but you need to clean them by either disinfection with chemicals or preferably by simply rinsing with boiling water.

First you'll want to add flavorings (per half a liter jar):
>A bit of mustard, about a half of a smallish teaspoon
>A few black peppers (not the vegetable kind, flavoring kind) like 5 seeds will do
>Two allspice seeds
>A few onion slices, like one or two if you don't like onion, more if like the taste
>A few slices of garlic
>A bit of fresh thyme, ideally from you herb garden
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>>2770597
Now start cramming pepper slices into jars, the more the better, bonus points for using multiple colors to make your picklings look nicer.
Once you are done cramming start filling with pickling solution described above, fill close to the top but not quite in case you run out and need to top it off with water, it's ok to add a bit of water as long as it's not a lot.
With water added close the lids securely, they need to be airtight.
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>>2770599
The final step is pasteurization, there are many ways to do it, what I do is put jars into an oven and set it to 110 C for 20 minutes.
Let them cool off and check if lids are airtight by pressing them or placing jars upside down for a few minutes and checking for leaks.
At this point you are done, ideally you should store jars in dark, cool and dry place.
Wait at least a week before opening, ideally at least two weeks.
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>>2770599
Forgot to add, after adding pickling solution shake your jars a bit and wait a while to get rid of bubbles.
Also water used to top them off should be boiled first.
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>>2770600

why do you do this and not a hot water bath
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>>2770400
even worse, it's a fruit (watermelon)
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>>2769973
Oh fug one decided to start swelling and changing color. I'm glad I decided to bag them a few days ago. I think I have a week, week and a half to go before it's ready
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>>2770400
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>>2770270
> starting grape wine,
Very tempted to do the same. Even though it’s in an absolute shit state, my wine produced like insane (and the birbs left it alone, mostly, so far), even took over a tree.
If they continue like this, I’ll probably have enough for a few bottles of house-red.
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>>2770597
I'm the guy who asked you to post this, thank you anon. What are the peppers in the red bowl at the bottom right of this pic?
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Redpill me on amino acids fertilizers, do you use them? I was planning to dope my rosemary with all kind of stuffs like picrel (amino acids+molasses), kelp, worm castings, sprouted seeds tea and mycorrhiza after I repot it because it is under some stress right now because of very hot summer.
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>>2770826
forgot pic. Also, should I steal some compost from the woods near me and inoculate my pots?
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>>2770826
I don't buy them specifically, but there's plenty of amino acids in the yeast and bacteria in the organic fertilizers I use. You don't need to overthink it too much.
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>>2770611
Less work, I don't need to constantly watch heat and wipe everything up after, just load them into oven, set temperate and take them out when done.

>>2770756
If you are going to it's better to go for it as soon as they are ripe, otherwise you might lose a lot of them to pests and disease.
I learned that hard way when I lost over half of my grapes to noble rot because I kept putting it off.

>>2770770
Pupila microdwarf, pic related before harvest, they do well in those tiny 2.5 liter pots and don't even reach 30 cm of height, very nice for container growing.

>>2770826
>amino acids fertilizers, do you use them?
I used to for a few years when planting perennials but I didn't really see any significant difference so I stopped using them.

>I was planning to dope my rosemary with all kind of stuffs like picrel (amino acids+molasses), kelp, worm castings, sprouted seeds tea and mycorrhiza after I repot it
Sounds like you are over complicating things too much to me.
I had a phase when I used all kinds of plant supplements and they don't seem to do much.
Just your own worm castings or compost should have everything it needs.
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>>2770770
>>2770869
Correction, it's Poupila, not Pupila
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>>2770869
I've seen some incredible 48h growth from amino acids ferts, but of course it was weed and not a perennial like rosemary which is very slow growing. I will set up my worm bin when summer ends anyway
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>>2770874
You can grow alfalfa or comfrey and make a tea out of them. They're like 20% protein so there's a lot of amino acids in them.
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A question. I got a bunch of apples from a tree on a residential property, and they don't seem right. Under the tartness and the acid there's a flavor that is almost chemical. Like, they have an aftertaste of motor oil. Could that just be a quirk of the particular tree, or are they potentially contaminated?
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>>2771149
>Like, they have an aftertaste of motor oil.
I've never had or heard about such apple.
Most of the nasty chemicals have been banned for a while so I'm not sure.
I've tasted rubber/plastic in some wild button mushrooms tho and I know they didn't grow in anything nasty.
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>>2771153
It's weird. It's like a burning chemical taste underlying the tartness of the apple. Like, you get the classic McIntosh zing, but then it rapidly declines into "this will make me ill".
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Got my 3 raised beds built and dug in. I "could" have just dug post holes for the 6 legs. But screw that I dug out all the clay for 18" of topsoil depth. I ran a rototiller across what was the top part of the lawn and shoveled off the 4-5" of top soil to fill the beds. I'm dumping the clay from the beds in the hole I made. I bit more top soil moving tomorrow, then I can start grading the yard for rock.
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>>2771149

i made some cider from a residential apple tree and it tasted how burning hair smells

they're more for decoration than eating
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Do you guys wash, say, basil or arugula or other individually plucked leaves from your garden?
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>>2771272
Lookin good anon
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>>2771298
I don't if I'm frying them. I'll bring a couple lambsquarters inside and strip the leaves right into the pan. I highly recommend them, but my girlfriend doesn't like to eat them raw. Things that don't get fried, like chives or watercress, get rinsed and checked for any pests or bug shit.
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>>2771298
Yeah I always wash everything
If I'm eating it raw I'll wash every individual leaf
If I'm cooking it I'll just keep them in a bowl, fill it with water and swirl it around a bit
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My pile of wood too big for my wood chipper continues to grow despite my best efforts to burn it with every outdoor party so I was thinking about doing some mushroom farming but I have no idea where to start, anyone here done it before?
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It's that time of the year, this one is really rare, it's a yellow version of a native cashew in my region, it's smaller than regular cashews and the bush that has them is basically 80 centimeters tall.
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They are too sweet so the bees found them first and already nibbled on them a little bit.
>but aren't they poisonous?
The nuts are poisonous if you try to eat them raw, they have to go through basically an industrial level burning in order for the nuts to become edible, the pseudofruit is edible, you can squeeze them into juice, make sweets and even booze. They just spoil really fast so the people that grow cashews for the nuts throw the fruit away.
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>>2771393
You want fresh wood for growing mushrooms. Turn it into charcoal and add it to your compost.
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One day in the last 60 days that it has rained. One night of wind. RIP my tomato, only the main branch survived.

Anyways, it took until the end of august but I finally have full size tomatoes growing. Let's see if I get a single ripe one this year, I have not any other time I've tried to grow them.
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I found this shroom in my backyard and I'm fairly certain this is edible agaricus bitorquis / urban agaricus after smelling it and comparing it with pictures online and I would like to have enough of it to use it in kitchen.
How do I spread it around my backyard?
Powder the cap and sprinkle it around?
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>>2771602
Toss the cap in a 5 gallon bucket of water with a tablespoon of salt in it and shake it up. Pour it over dead vegetation and wood chips. Ideally you want a layer of material a foot or two thick and several feet across.
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>>2770331
Could you explain how to prevent sugars from becoming vinegar? I collect plant juice for liquid feed and sometimes it turns.
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>>2771647
Never done that myself but do you seal your jars airtight and pasteurize them?
Or maybe is it's not an option for liquid feed?
Anyhow I'm pretty sure if you kill all bacteria with heat and then prevent any new bacteria from going inside nothing should go bad.

Nice home gym btw
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>>2771647
Couldn't you store the dried plants and make juice out of them a week or two before you use it?
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>>2771624
Thanks, should I wait after shaking or is it good to go right away?
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If I want to make little signs to write the plant names on and stick in the ground, what sort of paint/marker/whatever can I use that will not get into the soil and my produce and poison me?
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>>2771687
Wood burn it into untreated wood.
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>>2771688
I don't have a wood burner nor the wood or other tools required to do that and I don't want to spend money on making little garden signs.
I have shards from some terracotta pots that broke in a storm and I was going to use those.
I tried engraving them with a dremel but it doesn't really show very well.
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>>2771690
Break them into smaller pieces and make mosaics in the shape of the produced vegetable or fruit.
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>>2771674
Shake it a few times over 24 hours and it will be good to go. You might want to read some books on the subject. Mycelium Running or Radical Mycology are the usual intro books for people who want to grow mushrooms. You might also want to look into R Rush Wayne's "Growing Mushrooms the Easy Way" so you can grow mushrooms in your basement. The spent substrate can also be used in your garden.
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>>2771687
I like the little embossable aluminum tags
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>>2771298
I wash them. Usually aphids or other insects visit my basil
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>>2768627
Just the weather variations killin everything
I'm sure it was different in ground but going from close to 0C to 36C in a day in containers couldn't have been good
Also I think my soil was a bit too beat up from last year even with compost added
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>>2771829
For this reason I use white containers, they don't heat up nearly as much in the sun
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>>2771696
Thanks, found all the books on libgen, for anyone interested:
https://www.libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5CD652DBA53B900C40928A518C08728B
https://www.libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=2EF0B77346C9E02764ABA5E07F71E5F6
https://www.libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=C47064C08E740704BEB2342270C5EF4F
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>>2771830
They're mostly greyish
Anyway, we're gonna get some horse shit for me and my granny, give em a good boost for next year
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>>2771833
Grey isn't much better than black usually even if it looks significantly brighter to human eye, it's only about forth to third of the way from black to white most of the time despite looking closer to white.
Easy fix is wrapping them with aluminum foil (it reflects over 80% of sunlight but doesn't look good) or anything else that is reflective and/or good insulation.
Alternatively you could get ceramic pots if you want to keep aesthetics, they are really good insulators while also having much thicker walls than plastic pots, they are significantly more expensive and heavier tho.
I have also seen people putting their potted plants into slightly larger and nicer looking pots, this creates one more layer of insulation and airgap but wastes useful space.
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FUCK blossom end rot
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>>2771832
If you're using libgen then you might want to pick up stamets' "Mushroom Cultivator" and "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms". They have much more in depth information about growing mushrooms and maximizing yield. They're worth a read even if you just want to grow a few mushrooms in your garden, unless you have to pay for them.
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>>2771897
Just adding to this that everyone should read mycelium running even if they don't want to grow mushrooms.
What an interesting book, really changes your view on things.
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>The sugar rush stripey is starting to develop stripes
Nice.
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I said I wanted to do polyethylene tubing for irrigation next year. I stopped by lowes to look more into the various fittings etc and found 1/2 inch tubing on clearance. 100ft for $7.45. I am excite.

Now I'm just looking more into what types of drip fittings I can use with 1/2in. Maybe I'll buy some 1/4in to break out, but I'd rather stay with an all 1/2in system. Mostly because like I had said in a previous post >>2769548 it's so hot and windy here, I need more output than just drip irrigation.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Yet another mantis fren. I also spotted a hornworm that got impregnated with braconid wasp larvae. I was going to take a picture but noticed it was still alive, somehow and I squished it before I got the chance.
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>>2771941
Firstly install a filter so your drip lines don't clog up.
Secondly check your pressure and make sure your drip lines and tubing can handle it, if it's really high you'll need a pressure regulator.

Also how big is the area you want to irrigate?
You might need something like 1 inch or 3/4 for main distribution line if you have larger garden.
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>>2771944
yes a filter and regulator were the next things I planned on getting. next year I'm going to have a 6x6x6 chicken wire cage only for tomatoes, it's already built and in use but next year it will probably have 5 or 6 20 gallon containers. In addition to the cage I'll probably end up with another 5 or 6 20 gallon containers independent from the chicken wire cage, just for peppers. For some reason between deer, fox rabbits, coyotes and a dozen types of birds known to be garden pests, none of them care for peppers.
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Caryocar brasiliense, January.
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>>2771967
September.
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The top soil in the front yard was level or higher than the sidewalk and driveway so I need to haul a bunch away before laying down fabric and rock. Rototilled to loosen it up and get rid of the hump from the spruce tree we cut down last year. The rear tine rototiller has a handy feature that when run in reverse the rear flap can be used as a mini dozer. So I used the tiller to push the top soil into piles. I think its going to be at least 2 truck loads. I should be able to find someone to take it.
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>>2771995
Lots of roots in the way. I have a few more big ones to rip out in order to get the yard level. The biggest so far was 4" thick.
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>>2771995
>haul a bunch away
Why not keep it and do something with it? And location? I would kill for some free dirt
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>>2771995
Skip the fabric. It will work great for a little while but then it won't work at all. It's a waste of money in my opinion.
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>>2772004
As someone who is currently cleaning up the previous owners' decision to lay down fabric and pebbles, I second this opinion
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TOTAL
APHID
DEATH
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>>2771948
That's not much, 1/2 should be more than enough
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>>2771967
Kinda looks like avocado leaves.
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>>2772011
Spray your plants with milk diluted to 10%. It will leave a residue that gums up their mouthparts and kills them.
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Guys, do you think ANY of these could potentially be a good king henry?
To me they all look like the same kind of weed, but I've never seen good king henry seedlings before so maybe I'm missing one?

Because if not that means none of my seeds germinated ;_;
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>>2772080
Still enough time for radish in this season if you want to still get something out of it.
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>>2772080
mix is very course for seedlings, if that was outside it might just have been too cold for them to germinate.
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>>2772088
It has been very warm and well above germination temp for GKH both night and day.
I read that the germination rate for GKH seeds is very low but I didn't expect not a single one.
>>2772086
But anon radishes are gross
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>>2772026
The fruit is very different, macaws like it so I planted to attract macaws.
I like seeing them and hearing them talk to each other.
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>>2772090
>he lives in a place with beautiful colorful birds
Must be nice.
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>just ordered a new .22
You've fucked with my garden for the last time, tree rats. I am become death, destroyer of squirrels
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>>2772089
>But anon radishes are gross
you are simply eating the wrong ones
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>Have a lot of onion flowers I left because they look really nice and seeds would be nice to have
>Harvest them after they start drying out
>Need to separate dried flowers from seeds
>Spend about half an hour slowly extracting seeds by hand barely making any progress
>There has to be a better way
>Seeds are pretty heavy I wonder if they sink in water
>Turns out they do
>Dump everything into a bucket and fill it with water
>Wait for them to settle and slowly pour water out
>Be left with a pile of seeds at the bottom
>Leave them to dry for a few hours
>Collect them into a container
I really should use my brain more often, it took even less of my time than all the initial effort of sifting them by hand and it even screened bad seeds after they floated to the top
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This is just a funky breed of pumpkin, right? Should be safe to eat. Think it'll grow true to seed?
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>>2772281
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>>2772269
Good tip. I wish I could use that to separate yarrow seeds but they're too light.
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>>2772283
>>2772283
Yup it's a pumpkin, who knows if it'd grow true to seed, depends on who grew it
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>>2771995
Completely filled up the truck with top soil and maybe a little under half left. Probably about 2 yards. Ended up taking it over to my brother's place and unloaded it one wheelbarrow at a time. But we got a shiny new 6 cu ft wheelbarrow that moves a lot at once. Used most of it in his front yard, can definitely get rid of the rest in his backyard.
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I've decided to grow blueberries
Bought 3 varieties, Blue Rose, Sunshine blue and Northland and they were all pretty cheap
Blue Rose and Northland are in flower right now and so I think I'll give repotting a miss even if they do look a bit big for the pot
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I want to thank the anon who was talking about keeping two pepper and tomato seedlings in a cell.
It's kinda hard to see because of foliage but I kept some as an experiment and they are growing just as well if not better than single seedlings plus they have redundancy.
I'll repeat the experiment next year to confirm this years results before I commit to doing double seedlings everywhere.
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>>2772475
Looks great, anon
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My root pile has got quite large, but I finally removed all the ones that were getting in the way of grading the yard. Not going to fit in the green bin so I'll have to make a trip out to the yard waste depot.
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Filled up the truck most of the way with another load of top soil. After getting the roots out I ran the rototiller over the high spots and filled in the holes. Just need to do some more raking tomorrow morning when its cooler to level things out. Have to take some measurements tonight to figure out how much edging I need (phrasing).
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>>2772655
I should have measured what I'd need for edging earlier in the week. I won't be able to get it until Wednesday at the earliest when I could have wrapped everything up on Monday if I had what I needed. I'm doing a border of different colored rock so I want no-dig edging to make straight lines and curved corners with minimum hassle.
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I just had two male zucchini flowers blooming.
Harvested them, peeled off the petals and am now keeping the stamen in the fridge.
In another day or two the female should be ready, there will be beautiful zucchini sex, first I've ever experienced.
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do you guys use sprouted seeds tea?
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Anyone tried growing avocados in Europe?
I found "lila" variety that is decently cold hardy, doesn't grow too big, but just can't find it anywhere online.
Not even Facebook groups.
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>>2772762
here people just use the same varieties you find in supermarkets (Hass? and something else), but cold hardy isn't really needed here (southern France)
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>>2772475
that was probably me. you can get even more than two. pic rel, 6 tomato plants next to 7 pepper plants. I beat my record for height this year with the peppers, they're like 6 1/2 ft tall. But I'm definitely not cramming 6 tomato plants in a single container next year, they definitely didn't produce as much as they should have. I think the sweet spot is 3 or 4 per container.
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another fucking hornworm. luckily a parasitic wasp got to it before it could do more damage.
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hummingbird fren let me get real close
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>>2772957
You know now what you must do.
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>>2772963
i'm naming it apu :3

not today, satan.
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i have never cried as much from slicing onions than i have from onions i grew myself holy cow i had to turn on the vent and step out of the kitchen for some tissues.
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>>2773004
Sharpen your knives
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>>2772957
I saw a hummingbird moth a few times this week. It was pretty neat for a moth.
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/hgm/, a word of advice...I have a small veggie patch in Mediterranean Europe. Among the plants I have there, are two hot chili plants, one Chile de Arbol and one Brazilian Black Eggplant Chili. The former grew to 1,5m, produced like two pounds of peppers, was broken in half by a storm and rebounded immediately after I cut the broken part off. The other has struggled since March and didn't produce anything. Only now it is starting to show some flowers. Unfortunately the weather is changing soon here, it's starting to rain often and by October there won't be enough good weather for it. I was thinking of rooting it out and keeping it in a vase indoors, hoping that it grows something. Do you think it would survivethe transfer?
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i forced a male and female zucchini flower to breed today
it was beautiful
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>>2773004
Maybe your soil is extra sulphury, plus they naturally lose some of the pungency in handling.
>>2773005
DESU I think that is kinda a myth, cooking ruptures the cell walls a billion times more than cutting and you don't gas yourself cooking them. I have a sharp Jap knife and it fluctuates by onion.
>>2773179
Maybe? But at least in my very limited experience indoors is bad for peppers. I gave my sister one and she kept it indoors and it lagged over a month behind mine I kept outdoors and didn't fruit until she planted it back outside.
>>2773184
Pervert
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>>2773179
>I was thinking of rooting it out and keeping it in a vase indoors, hoping that it grows something. Do you think it would survivethe transfer?
Peppers are really hardy, I'm sure it would survive if handled properly. BUT.....do you have a grow light? It's going to need it.
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>>2773179
Might as well try
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>>2773219
I don't have a grow light, I always grow stuff outside. This would be a first
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>>2773179
I talked about this last hgm. What you're describing is called over wintering. Yes it will survive and no, you don't need a grow light. I just kept my peppers in a sunny room that stayed above 40°f all winter, re potted it in spring and it's producing more than it did last year. I also said last hgm not re potting it in the fall last year was a big mistake because it caused root rot. It took much longer than expected for them to bounce back this year because of it and I missed out on a lot of peppers. So, you're already ahead of the game if you're planning on re potting it before the cold.

Again, grow lights aren't necessary. The plant will grow buds during the winter, just being in a sunny room.
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>tomatoes produced a noticeably less this year
>four fully grown tomato plants were completely chewed off at the base (happened over the span of a couple weeks in August), so lost even more of my tomato harvest
>caught an opossum on camera climbing down my fence and grabbing onto a tomato plant before losing his balance and falling while bending the entire tomato plant which was damaged and lost a couple tomatoes but thankfully survived
>one of my pepper plants had some kind of fungal disease, which I've never experienced before
>cucumbers produced a lot but probably half were eaten by mice/squirrels
>all my figs were eaten while they were still tiny right after I took my overwintered tree outside
>Japanese beetles were out in full force on my roses this year

Not every year is a good one. At least most of my pepper plants are still around and producing.
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>>2773319
If the weather continues as is and it will, I'm going full hardy hybrids next year. Not worth wasting the time on heirlooms-to-wilt.
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>>2773283
They can be cheap and they're really bright; after you're done with using them for plants, they make for good reading lights.

>>2773300
>and no, you don't need a grow light.
fag
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>>2773283
You don't need a grow light but even if you would want one you can just use normal LED light instead, they are slightly less efficient usually but much, much cheaper, just get one that shines downwards to not waste too much light

>>2773331
Grow light salesman detected
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>>2773327
This. As much as I love heirlooms, I'm adding more hybrids to keep production up. I'm going to try those Chef's Choice ones, hopefully they actually taste better than other hybrids.
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>>2773342
The local heirlooms I planted weren't even that good so far.
Best cuc I ate was a hybrid.
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Hey champs, I'm getting ready to harvest and cure sweet potatoes, but have some questions.
Frost isn't until the first week of October, should I wait longer? Looks like we're going to be getting rain later in the week and throughout next week however.

Regarding curing, I have a small temporary greenhouse that I can put up but, of the methods I've found, I did not find any that tried to utilize one. The main issue with this is how they will be susceptible to pests, even if I put them in containers since they need some air.
Failing that, I'm likely to shove them in a tub and let them live in the trunk of my car for two weeks. Though I don't really need the inside of my car to smell like sweet potato...
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>>2773331
every hobby, there is without failure someone shilling shit barely anyone actually needs because they subconsciously crave purchase friends. I'd like to think the whole point of gardening is having the lowest possible budget and getting the highest possible yields. Otherwise, why wouldn't you just buy your produce from the store?
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>>2773365
It's a fucking light. And I already proposed an alternative use for it should the growing purpose not pan out - reading. Shit's handy. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
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>get a growlight
>GRRRR NO HE A SHILL; get a led growlight
what did he mean by that
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>>2773327
based and muttpilled
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>>2773367
I'm not sure if you are referring to my post with those ramblings but I specifically advise to NOT buy a grow light.
Regular LEDs are a fraction of the cost of the marketed grow lights and work just as well or almost as well.
Don't pay premium because some put Growlight™ sticker on a LED, always buy normal LEDs that are fraction of the cost for the same amount of light.
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>>2773374
you're overcomplicating what the anon said in the first place for the sake of a retarded argument ngl
was he really supposed to say "you need a led light in a frame to hang above your plant to serve in the place of a commercially marketed growlight" no nigga it is a light that assists in growing it's called a growlight he needs a growlight
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>>2773374
Yeah don't buy "Certified GOOD GOY GROW LIGHT FOR WEEEEEEEEEEEED" but research what color the LEDs need to be, the power output, etc. Yes, its easy to get scammed on Amazon
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>>2773366
do you see, how you're justifying your need to cons00m?
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Getting into the final stretch for the landscaping project. Dug holes for the ornamental grass to replace the clay with soil. Picked up half a yard of manure to amend the raised beds, grass holes, and flower beds. Picked up a yard of yellow clay to fill in a low spot near the house. Will finish the grading tomorrow when its not so hot and lay down the landscape fabric.

I decided my raised beds were too bendy at the bottom, so I added a bottom board to keep the metal from bowing out. That would have been a lot easier to do before they were filled with soil.
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>>2773519
You have so much space, why did you only make three beds? Is it an HOA issue? Either way, great work.
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>>2773400
Anon you're being a fag
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>>2773528
everyone itt has access to electricity and lights, why is it you keep insisting we buy more?
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>>2773525
The raised beds were a last minute thing to help break up the expanse of stone that will be going in. Closer to the road I would have run into a lot more roots from a spruce tree we had removed last year. We will probably put flower pots out there. Closer to the house there is another flower bed. And we have a fairly large garden in the backyard already.
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guys, which one should i get?
i've never had a grow light before, and I've been reading a bit, but it's all very confusing.
Some people say it literally doesn't matter as long as its >4k and LED strips are fine, other people say it HAS to be big giga bulbs like the one in the picture.
Which is true?
What do I buy?
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Newbie container gardener here.
Do I need to somehow protect my plants from rain now that fall is upon us and it's going to be raining all the time? The containers have drainage holes obviously and there's perlite in the soil. Is that enough or do I need to do something more?
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>>2773601
It all depends on *how* much light you need, because of *what* you're growing. A tropical houseplant will do well under a focused bulb like that but you're going to need a lot of them to cover a wider area and it will cost a lot more to run them.

Hard to help if we don't have more info.
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>>2773601
Should be somewhere around 5000-6000K and as many lumens as you can, I'd say at least 2000.
The anon is right that that bulb would illuminate nothing. I'd get some tube style lights if for seedlings.
That strip wouldn't probably be that great either because of the size.
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>>2773601
>guys, which one should i get?
I would get neither

>Some people say it literally doesn't matter as long as its >4k and LED strips are fine
That is generally correct but strips have the problem of having wide angles and being a pain to concentrate onto your plants

>other people say it HAS to be big giga bulbs like the one in the picture.
It doesn't but those can be cheaper for the same amount of lumens, probably not this one tho since it has grow light in the name

>What do I buy?
Depends how you want to install it, what you are growing and so on, can't help you without details.

Generally stats you are interested in are:

>Total lumen value
You want at least a thousand total, better a few thousand, I don't know how big your growing area is so can't give you any solid number

>Lumens/watt
How many lumens you get per watt of power, the higher the better, 100 lm/watt is pretty good value

>Beam angle
You want pretty low value to concentrate your lumens on plants, not waste them on ceiling or walls, depends on your use case but definitely no more than 90

>Color temperature
Not all bulbs have this stat but if they do you want 4000K~6500K

>Price
Obviously you want low price if you are paying more than 5$ per thousand of lumens you are getting ripped off, my bulbs are 12$ for 4000 lumens for example, which is why it's better to avoid anything with grow light in the name, inside it's the same diodes anyways unless you are looking for professional grow lights but those are really expensive

>>2773687
Should be fine if you have perlite and drainage holes but you can hide them under a roof if you think they are getting too much moisture
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>>2773687
I'd worry about the temps more than rain in containers
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After my spring peas finished producing last month I pulled them and replanted. The new ones are flowering already even though they are only about 9" tall. The first batch was probably 3 feet tall before they started flowering.
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>>2769087
Kys predditor
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>>2773553
ah, nice.
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>>2773790
Probably the timing. I've seen a bean flower when it was like 4" tall because it sprouted too late in the season. It actually produced a couple pods too.
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>>2773790
Maybe some of the flowering enzymes stayed in the ground
Or was that only for select plants?
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>>2770593
Wine update, today I removed remaining grape skins and seeds
Wine before in this picture, a lot of skins and seeds
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>>2773894
Firstly clean the jar you are going to pour into and all your tools
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>>2773895
Next you'll need something you can squeeze fruits in.
A simple fruit bag with somewhat small gaps works great.
This one is dedicated for grape pressing and about 15 liters iirc, overkill but better too big than too small.
Ideally you would want fruit press but those are pretty expensive so I just squeeze with hands.
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>>2773898
Next thing is a funnel ideally with removable filter, great for further screening
Once you are ready place funnel into your jar and dump fruits and liquid from the other jar, don't go all out, do it in batches of 3~4 liters at the time.
Squeeze fruits inside the bag until you are left with only pulp.
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>>2773901
This foto is better, you can see pulp in orange bowl from previous batch and the bag inside the funnel.
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>>2773902
It's worthwhile to measure sugar content, in my wine it's almost zero at this point confirmed by smell of alcohol.
Taste is really good.
At this point I could add more sugar to get even more alcohol but it's strong enough for me as is so I'm not adding anything.
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>>2773904
All the tools and wine after getting rid of skins and seeds
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>>2773905
>>2773894
Wine comparison, it's still cloudy but all the seeds and skins are removed.
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>>2773907
Pulp close up, it still has some alcohol so if you intend to compost this best leave it for a few hours or a day so alcohol can evaporate.
Also got more pickled peppers done today.
It'll be a while until next update, I'll let it sit for at least a few weeks.
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>>2773908
Oh hey, if it was you I was talking about before, the pickles came out great. Might get down to the market and get some more cucumbers before season ends.
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Any other FL gardeners here? How the hell do you guys keep the 20 million pests here away? Right now I'm dealing with
>aphids
>ants that farm aphids
>whiteflies
>thrips
>cutworms
I've been blasting everything with neem, ditomaceous earth and spinosad but nothing seems to make a dent in the numbers - if anything it feels like I'm seeing even more of them. I recently got some thuricide BT for the cutworms which I'm praying will help, but I have no idea what to do with everything else. I'm killing the aphids daily with soap and water but I have no idea how they seem to all magically reappear the following day.
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>>2773942
Diatomaceous earth won't do you any good in Florida because it rains too often. Milk diluted to 10% will gum up the mouthparts of aphids and kill them. It will work best if you reapply it after rain. You can make a good repellent by boiling citrus peels in some water. Use the citrus water to dilute the milk and you should at least be able to get rid of the aphids and the ants. I'm not sure how well it will work for thrips or cutworms.
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>>2773942
Tomatoes are finished after I got around 20 hornworms off. I couldn't keep up with the onslaught and didn't go outside once because of rain and two of them ate the whole plant in one day.

The iguanas will not leave my luffa alone and they eat any unprotected seedlings.

I don't have much of a problem with aphids now. I found the best thing is to try to attract ladybugs and they will do all the work.
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>>2773942
I'd say get some predators like lady bugs and spiders
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>>2773601
How much do you want to spend? A spiderfarmer SF1000 goes for 80-100 bucks on amazon and has the best leds you can get.
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>>2773982
I'll give these methods a try too, thanks anon. I've not heard of using diluted milk or citrus peels like that before.

>>2774047
Sorry to hear about your tomatoes anon. Trying to manage all the pests here is a nightmare, it's almost incredible how unmolested plant pests seem to get by - I've not seen a single ladybug or predatory insect in months.

Almost all my plants have the calling card of thrips and aphids. If I can't make a difference in their numbers soon I'll probably lose the majority of my garden to them if it's not already too late. Tomorrow I think I'll try quarantining off everything I can with plant mesh and then just blasting the inside of the net daily with spinosad and neem in the hopes it just fumigates whatever's in there.

>>2774061
I did consider this but my concern is that in conjuction with all the pesticides I'm trying that I'm just as likely to kill any predator bugs I release as I am the pests.
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>>2774063
but they will eat the pests, not the leaves
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>>2774063
also try this, basically is a garlic and chili infusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3MKRoe0XWE
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>>2773942
Also look into hardier hybrids like me
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Cutting of a Little Ruby fig I made about two weeks ago
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What is that? WHAT the FUCK is THAT?!?!?
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>>2774062
as little as possible tbqh
>>2773714
>problem of having wide angles and being a pain to concentrate onto your plants
what if i have the strips RIGHT above the plants, as in within a couple of inches? thats what i was thinking of doing but i don't know
>>2773692
>>2773712
i'm not trying to start an indoor farm or anything, i just want to give my herbs like rosemary, thyme, oregano, basil etc. a little more light now that the days are getting shorter. i don't have a huge operation or anything, i was thinking of just putting them below my kitchen cabinets and then just shining some light on them a few hours a day
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>>2774218
> i was thinking of just putting them below my kitchen cabinets and then just shining some light on them a few hours a day
nooooo anon you can't do that, you'd be feeding the grow light cartel, or, something
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>>2774218
>what if i have the strips RIGHT above the plants, as in within a couple of inches?
That would, yeah, I assumed you would want to use it as supplementation to sunlight on a window so putting something to hold strips above will obstruct a lot of sunlight although, now I think about it you could use transparent plexiglas instead of wood or metal.
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>>2774225
>>2774223
so would LED strips be the best bet for me then? and if so, do you guys have better suggestions than the one in the picture i posted?
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>>2774231
shit's kinda pricey :/
https://www.birddogdistributing.com/led-strip-grow-light-120-volt-high-output-smd-5050-148-feet/?gad_source=1
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>>2774239
That is INSANE what the fuck
I don't want to spend more than 50 bucks on it MAX and preferably even less.
Where do you guys get the money to spend 300 buckaroonies on LED strips??
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>>2774231
The problem with strips is the output per meter
At that point one bulb would be better
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>>2774231
As long as it provides light your plants need it's good, whether it's a led strip or led bulb isn't that importan.
I prefer bulbs myself tho, less work to repair and you can replace if needed
You can hang fixtures from ceiling on hooks so you can regulate their height
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>>2774240
I mean, strips do sound cool, but you can get non strip grow (errr sorry....lights that work for growing plants, *NOT* grow lights) lights for a lot cheaper than that
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>>2774245
>strip grow (errr sorry....lights that work for growing plants, *NOT* grow lights)
Man, my plants need some fertili-uh, I mean a water solution of liquified vermicompost that will slowly provide nutrients to them.
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>>2774218
>as little as possible tbqh
then look for samsung grow lights on aliexpress, in the 4000+K range if you just need to veg them, but I don't think you will spend less than 40 bucks
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>>2774298
something like this should work, 50w should be enough for a couple little plants, I've found this on aliexpress, I don't know if you can buy there as an US customer
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>>2774300
forgot pic
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Any of you guys here growing bok choy or have experience with this? Some of the stems on one of mine have started to become slimy and goopy like they're becoming liquefied, so much so that you could just peel them off the plant. I tried looking it up and the closest thing I found was soft rot but I'm not certain that's what it is, but the symptoms do sound similar. I'm not sure if I should just dump the plant and the dirt to be safe and keep it from spreading.
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How hard is it to sprout chives? Any tips? Should I try to germinate them in paper towels?
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>>2774310
Sounds like some kind of rot. Try watering them less.
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>>2774311
Skip the paper towels. Seed them in small planters or flats and make sure the soil doesn't dry out. Use a seed starting mix or a potting mix.
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>>2773908
>best leave it for a few hours or a day so alcohol can evaporate.

you dont need to do this. there are critters in the compost pile that will gobble the alcohol up

the best compost i made was one with 5 gallons of red wine dumped on it
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Goodbye radishes, hello fucking hundreds of these green worms. They ate 90 percent of the greens in 48 hours.
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>>2774370
Oh well, I hope it turns into something cool.
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>>2773942
North East here but im forced to grow all brassicas under netting because of aphids and cabbage moths, really the only 100% effective way.
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>>2774370
>>2774371
Upon looking it up, they do not turn into something cool, they turn into cabbage moths.
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>>2774442
Intercropping helps with cabbage moths
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So planting peppers in small pot and crowding makes them yield faster, you guys tried it yet?
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>>2773601
I have 3 sansi they work just fine.
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>>2774550
Yeah, it also makes them tiny and weak with small fruits and low yields, not worth it
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>>2774450
>intercropping
Anyone got some ideas what I could “intercrop” (more like cover crop, I guess, but wouldn’t mind getting some use out of it) in my greenhouse over winter to be able to do tomatoes again next year? I know you’re not supposed to grow same stuff at the same place, but I only got one greenhouse.
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>>2774550
Well, I did try growing in containers this year. Basically got nothing worth of note in regular peppers. Cayennes did good as far as I know though.
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>>2774560
I'm pretty sure most of the "don't plant in same spot" comes from a nutrient and disease standpoint. If you fertilize and they weren't diseased, you're okay.
Radishes are always good for the foliage you get to dig back in though.
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It went from height of summer heat to depressive rainy fall within a day
I need to think about that indoors light setup if I don't want to get depressed lol
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>>2774564
Same here 32C one day, 22 the other, 15 the day after.
My figs won't ripen on time, it hurts.
I bet there will be floods as well with all this rain. Fun times ahead.
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>>2774560
As long as you don't grow more brassicas this year, you shouldn't have to worry about cabbage moths. Thyme might be able to keep them away. You could put down a living mulch of creeping/wooly/elfin thyme. You can also try chamomile and borage. Horseradish would probably be a pretty solid pick too.
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>>2774564
>>2774567
> 32C one day, 22 the other, 15 the day after.
Eh, could be worse. I’m now down to 7 (also from over 30 on the weekend). I don’t see shit because it’s raining all the time, but I’d guess if it’d clear up, I’d see snow. All kinds of roads getting closed due to snow.
But at least I’m no on the side of the alps that’s likely to be utterly drowned, so there’s that. At least I closed my green house last evening already (but forgot my indoor plants who summer holiday on my lawn. Just got them inside when I came home from work. Let’s hope they won’t be to fucked by a day in the cold. )
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>>2774682
12C and chance of flood and I'm going to city center tommorow
It's supposed to get better next week though
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I'm trying to dry hibiscus flowers and they are covered in ants. Is there some easy way to wash all these guys off without having to check every single petal
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>>2774700
dunk them for a while and pour off the water maybe?
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>>2774706
It seems like dunking them makes them cling to the flowers. Maybe I'll try to keep them submerged for longer
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>trees aren't even going to change color this year, just drop leaves due to drought
Big sad
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>>2774567
5C this night.
How the fuck do I have to worry about frost in September in the same week I avoided watering during the day because it was too hot.
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>>2774990
The same reason crabs are melting due to sea being too acidic.
Don't worry about it bro.
Read a pamphlet how YOU not using plastic straws will make things right.
Fucking rip my newly planted trees tho.
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>>2775007
Remember it is the western man's fault for the Chinese/Indian factories and mass pollution by hundreds of millions of people who don't care at all.

It is the middle class's job to feel guilty about everything because you're not so poor people can't blame you, and you're not rich enough to have fuck you money. Guilt is a really good way to control people. Anyways, plant more trees.
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>>2775010
Americans almost double emmissions per capita compared to China and septuple to India
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>>2775011
Nooooo!!! My narrative that allows me to shift the blame in such a way that it's never my fault and it's always someone else who has to change!! Don't ruin it!

Either way this is hgm one of the last oasis on this forsaken site without people debating politics, let's keep it that way. Back to plants.
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>>2775015
Plantarians of the world, unite!
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>>2775011
Pretty sure we also grow and export a shitload more food to other countries too.
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>>2775020
Compared to China? No.
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I was edging all morning then got rocks in the afternoon. One piece of edging I had to re-stake 2 times. Over 55 feet it expanded 2.5" in the sun and got bendy. I put the other edging in the sun to pre-warm before I staked it down. Way short on the light colored rock, I'll have to get more tomorrow morning. The rocks were supposed to be 1-1.25" but seemed somewhat bigger so I didn't get great coverage.

I had just enough gray rock for the border. I was going to put it around the grass too but didn't have enough. I'll probably get burgundy lava rock for there.

Need to put the corner trim on one of the raised beds after I get some more corner caps. I'm also going to paint the wood around the top black.
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>>2775075
>I was edging all morning
:-)
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>>2775066
LOVE that china food.
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>>2775075
lookin pretty clean, anon
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>>2775075
did you remove all the soil and replace it with little rocks, and also added something under to make sure nothing ever grows there? I'm crying rn
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>>2775156
permaculture bros... it's over...
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OP here. Need to make a new thread, any suggestions as to what I should make the OP pic?
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>>2775193
I like the tradition of threads like 3dpg where the op pic is a picture from the previous thread (or a collection), so something some other anon posted?
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>>2775156
Water is expensive. I could never bring myself to water the lawn as much as it needed to stay lush, so it ended up looking like shit most of the time. We're probably going to grow squash / cucumbers in the planter closest to the street and let the vines spread on the rocks.
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>>2775273
That's what I did with this OP, and I want to continue that. Ok I'll just find something already ITT
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>>2775293
This is a hate crime of the highest order anon.
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>>2775432
But desu, it’s more of a gore/rage-bait pic. Should have thinned out the vines much more and made sure that the grapes fit more sun.
They’re all rather sour. Made some juice out of that small batch and I had to add some sugar to get it into drinkable condition.
To my defense:
I bought the plot in spring and the vines have been left to their own for years and spring isn’t really the season for cutting them. Guess that’s one of the many things I gotta do this autumn and winter.
(The tomatoes made for a fantastic sauce, though. This cultivar is really amazing, but fuck, it’s a lot of work to collect enough of them for anything, besides snacking them of the bush)
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>>2775293
That's rather poor use of space, you could have used much larger beds and more of them

>Water is expensive
Mulch your beds

>We're probably going to grow squash / cucumbers in the planter closest to the street and let the vines spread on the rocks.
That's a good idea, I would also recommend watermelons, melons and pumpkins if they are your taste and fit your climate
However your planters are pretty shallow, deeper rooted and larger plants might struggle

>>2775433
>They’re all rather sour
You could make wine and just add sugar if they aren't good enough for eating
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>>2775293
I hate it
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>>2775293
TBF I wouldn't plant shit near the street anyway
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>>2775485
>>2775485
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>>2775075
Should have skipped the weed mat
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>>2775494
Weed fabric is great if used properly. You'll have problems if you have it set up where dirt will wash onto it. Over time you will get enough accumulated dust that weeds will sprout among the rocks, but they are easy to pull since the roots can't get through the fabric.
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>>2775524
Roots can absolutely get through the fabric. It's an all around garbage product that's difficult to remove.
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>>2775293
Will I further trigger people if I mention that I'm planning to spray acrylic concrete sealer on the gray rocks so they look dark and wet all the time?
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>>2775293
lol
lmao
that plastic won't stop mother nature.
nice stones you're growing there

You have poisoned the earth and you'll still be pulling weeds out, in time the EB will be exposed and it will look like shit
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>>2775946
Enjoy eating plastic
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>>2775293
looks good to me bro
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>>2772185
Based. Chop them up, mix them with veggies, and make squirrel stew
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My neighbor has a tree removal company here to cut down the tree in their yard. I don't care about that, except I have a bunch of tomatoes planted under the branches so I fully expect the company to destroy them in the process. It's sad but the neighbor is a nice enough guy, not his fault.
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This is a kidney bean and idk what else. How can I ensure their survival when I transfer to a 7 gallon container?
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>>2777246
Forgot pic
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>>2777248
>>2777246
Looks like a beet sprout. Wait until they grow a true leaf before you transplant them.



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