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File: F-Eastern-bluebird.jpg (3.43 MB, 3872x2592)
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Spring in full swing, summer on the horizon.

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>>4312241

Post em.

Is this a Female Eastern Bluebird?

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>>4313825

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>>4313856
Damn, geese grow fast.
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Sad eyes

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>>4313178
it's a catbird
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This weeks wageslaving killed my mood for birbing
Everything went wrong
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>>4314055
Maybe going out with the camera will ease the pain.

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It was too fucking dark out today. Overcast as hell.
I really need to learn how to take better photos in general though.
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>>4314197

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>>4314200
Just keep shootin' and saving for better lenses.

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>>4314212
That is the 70-300mm kit lens, but desu I don't even know what I should do. Long prime or telephoto, I could probably buy both but my wife would fucking kill me.
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>>4314216
In my honest opinion, and my main hobby being cooking, photography is rather cheap compared to cooking in the whole grand scheme of things, plus you get exercise. So, try and justify that for yourself. You generally buy one body, and maybe three solid lenses every what, 10 years as a hobbyist?

For prime lenses, you either fork over tons of money or settle for a 400mm + teleconverter. Or, you be modest and buy a 600mm sigma or something.

I'm saving up to upgrade my whole kit. But, I still enjoy the hobby! Even with my d60 and my 70 - 300mm. I'm buying the 200 - 500mm soon.
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There's a blue jay that's been flying around at work the past few days and I finally got some shots of it.

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>>4314216
based on the best shots in this bread, you want a 200mm-600mm zoom lens or a few primes but that'd be fucking expensive and bulky.
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>>4314487
wild? nice

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>>4314487
Maybe not the greatest photos, but I liked the way the colors turned out

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>>4314490
butt

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>>4314495
sick pose

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>>4314489
Yes, there’s tons of feral monk parakeets around Athens, Greece

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>>4314499

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>>4314500

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>>4314499
thats really cool

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>>4314503

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>>4314504
There’s actually feral tropical birds in many cities all tiger the world. From the famous parrots of Telegraph hill in San Fran, to London, Amsterdam, Rome, Paris, NYC, and here in Greece. One of my favorite hobbies when I travel is to search for them, along with any other urban wildlife

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>>4314512
All over the world.*

Tf autocorrect..
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>>4314492
>butt

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>>4314512
speaking of urban wildlife finally saw one of these fuckers in nyc of all places

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this shit is not easy. why am i so into something that i get so few decent shots out of.

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>>4315015
The thrill of the hunt
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>>4315015
[spoiler]fun[/spoiler]
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I need a longer lens but keep going back and forth in my head if I should just get the sigma 150-600 or fork out the extra cash for the sony 200-600

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>>4315066
Depends on the price difference and how long you'll use it for... if I were to buy a long lens I'd be in it for at least ten years of use.
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>>4315066
Fellow 70-350 enjoyer. I also wish I had more reach sometimes but the compactness of the lens is just so nice, it's almost the same diameter as my 16-55 while barely being any longer. Have you considered the Tamron 150-500? Considerably smaller than either of those two while still having plenty of reach on apsc. Ultimately it'd probably be best if you could rent them and try them out yourself but the Tamron would be the first one I'd go to for the size alone.
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The key with birding is patience :^)
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>>4315080
You’re counting the length of the sigma’s hoo
These sites dont scale correctly either
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>>4315082
I go against your advice and common sense in favor of getting the photo, saying you got to photograph the bird before it flies away.
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>>4315080
yea I do like this 70-350 but I keep seeing birds and thinking man if only I had more reach... which is cope for poor approach but it is what it is.
I keep thinking however if I get the 500 I would just have those same thoughts at 500mm and think "man if only I had 600mm"
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cropped a bit from manual focus 300mm

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slightly lower angle and lack of twig would make this an actually good one

although i learned yesterday ray henesee clones out branches and shit so is that just what people are doing now?

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closest one of these guys has ever let me

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cool bird bad pic

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staking out a nest of these guys. hoping to get some really close ones, but theyre so damn fast

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And pretending to be normal.

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>>4315193
There is no such thing as enough reach concerning birds. I've settled in at 400mm on APS-C. The 640mm equivalent is just right for me. Sometimes my gear forces me to just sit and appreciate the birds, instead of photographing them.

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I dont have many exciting subjects around but I still enjoy capturing the little guys in the yard.

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Started livestreaming a hummingbird nest a few days ago with an old cellphone running IP Webcam into OBS.
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>>4315773
Let’s see that stream broski. My humbirds are as the proverbial fart in the wind. Gone. Guess they’ve been
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>>4315807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkzkC0LNyN8
With any luck I'll switch to an actual camera today
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>>4315865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wSz0TDIZ9Q * new link

Youtube only auto records 12 hours so I'm planning on starting a new stream each day for the free recording capability.
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>>4315865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wSz0TDIZ9Q
Covered gx85 in plastic food wrap for weatherproofing and ran it into laptop covered in upside down cardboard box (for weatherproofing)
Stream quality has immensely improved, I guess 2016 mft is better than 2017 cell phone.
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Coal tits are nesting in the wall

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MoPer
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>>4316782
>common pigeon with some parrot.

Where is this?
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>>4316859

What is your system for metering?
That bird is literally middle grey so exposure should be bang on
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new camera
new lens
pretty happy
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>>4316855
I’ve already explained it further up the thread

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>>4316899
What's the combo?
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E025 knows where the best doner in town is.

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>>4316940
>What's the combo?
canon r7
sigma 150-600mm
shooting on auto

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>>4316992
Nice. I just bought a D7500, now I'm on the hunt for a telephoto lens.
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>>4316899
>>4316901
love cranes so much, my favorite birds
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>>4317098
>>4317097
Where's birdo?
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>>4317167
Next to Waldo.
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"Squawk"

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glul

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>>4317255
he bully lil fag. good
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Kingfisher toddler is throwing a tantrum. I have 400 pictures of the same 3 birds, how should I choose which ones to keep?
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Please give your honest opinions on this one I
took
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>>4313178

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>>4317592
Post them all.
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>>4317621
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>>4317633
Oops.
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>>4317634
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>>4317635
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>>4317636
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>>4317637
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>>4317638
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>>4317639
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>>4317641
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>>4317642
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>>4317643
He got away successfully.
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>>4317645
What an intense battle, glad he came out victorious.
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>>4317642
What a flex.
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>>4318095
love those guys

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>>4318097
Same here, all over the place and still a ton of fun to shoot. What focus mode are you using on your Z8? I'm still acclimating to mine but I'm always stoked on how sharp your photos look. Also curious if F6.3 is the sharpest on the 180-600? I've been messing around with it but can't nail it exactly.

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>>4318100
its definitely sharper at f8 but im bad at remembering to tighten up shooting into good light

i walk around with 3d on with normal afc single point set to one of the front function buttons, but I've been trying to keep my hand on the manual focus too because I keep missing shots

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>>4318102
Alright thanks for the tips. I've found the autofocus keeps going in and out when taking multiple shots, but it may be due to me not being on the latest firmware. I try to go between 3D and W-C1

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Snapping Lorries

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>>4318125
He looks determined to break some shit
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>>4318107
that is such a fine shade of blue, stunning color!
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>>4318560

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field sparrow?

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Missed the focus like always.

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First time out with the new lens. Definitely some things to learn

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>>4319899
did you climb a tree lol? I never see these guys low.

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I never ge to see thrushes other than robins, i have no idea how to tell them apart.

Swainsons? Hermit?

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>>4320294
I was up a bit from the bank, and he was on a dead tree out in the water that wasnt very tall so I got somewhat close to parity

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haven't had enough time to get out to fun spots so i've been snapping birds in the back yard to get acquainted with the new lens

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>>4320859
I'm so jealous of people who people who manage to make money on this and can spend all of their time on it. I'm trying to do more research to increase lucky shots per hours invested but it's hard to find information on a hobby this niche where everyone is kinda defensive of their technique

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>>4321082
It's one thing to love your work but I think turning "the" thing you love into work is a bad idea. Do you really want to tie photography to paying bills? Eventually you'll be looking for something else to relax and get away from work. If it's just side cash you're after, alright, but it still comes with its own set of annoyances because people.

My advice is to have a reliable job that allows you to make the most money you can in the shortest amount of time so you can maximize your time out shooting. Preferably no teamwork (relying on others) or anything that keeps you on call, be it for management or clients. You really shouldn't be fretting over anything while out, it affects your mood and your patience and therefore your shots.
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>>4321088
yea yea fair point, just kinda like a lot of other things you're only like "real" at it if you can make your money on it.

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>>4321097
i think i broke my eyes with it how badly cooked do these ones I feed to topaz look?

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>>4321100
remove all topaz shit and never ever use it again
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>>4321088
If doing what you love turns out to make you money then keep going with it. If you find you have a hard time doing what you love to make money then that's where the issues start.

I really enjoyed working in the restaurant world. And for a few years straight I was going up and making lots of money but then it sort of just dropped and stagnant. I left that industry for a better paying one. I'm glad I did. I guess it's all luck and how life just flows really.
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>>4321097
Eh, I don't think money is the best metric of quality or how "real" something is... after all, the vast majority of customers who buy something (be it a painting, carving, or music) have no ability themselves. Why use them as a benchmark? You can find all sorts of bad professionals out there in every field. It's even worse when you realize how much connections matter to success, especially nowadays. Even if you look at the most successful singers you're pretty much just looking at a product being sold by a producer. It doesn't mean the performers are the best singers (or songwriters, as most don't even write their own songs) because if they were, they wouldn't all need a team of engineers to make them sound good in the recording studio. Some are good, others are not just like outside of the professional world. They are just part of a larger team including mostly marketing, money-wise. I don't really want to dwell on it ITT and I'm not against people making a career out of selling prints. It just doesn't interest me. This is another one of my posts regarding money: >>4320578

Also if "real" is truly important to you, you should listen to >>4321102 because literally every single pixel of your photo has been replaced and you're just looking at a representation of it. You really should have more respect for your precious photos and embrace them for what they are. I say this in a non-aggressive or patronizing way. Stick up for your photos. Shooting digital and working with everything from RAW to JPEG is bad enough and even film processing is subjective, but the line needs to be drawn somewhere and AI is just going way too far for me. You should keep your photos far away from it. Just my opinion. It's why I went back to film after nearly 15 years... it's like a breath of fresh air removing computers from the equation altogether. Convenience is no longer that important to me, I'd rather get the full photography experience.
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Bought a new camera that came with a 18-150mm zoom lens. Figured it might be a nice start but god damn am I realizing now that it's still not far enough
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>>4321568
You need at least 300mm for birds.

Just find a used one, if you have a crop sensor look for a full frame lens and you'll get the effective reach of much higher.
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So much trash itt, holy shit
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>>4321818
Post bird photo then. And then do it on a regular basis and keep the same quality.
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>>4321818
If a photo has a bird in it, it is a good photo. Every photo in existence that has no bird in it is a bad photo, simple as.
How many times does this need to be said?
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>>4321568
You thought I was trolling when I wrote that a 400mm is the best balance point between reach and budget?
600mm is where the diminishing returns begin but it's still affordable, beyond that, either you get lol lmao quality or you sell a kidney.
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>>4321818
Dont worry, I have art.

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>>4321888
garbage m8
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>>4321889
Its art. You just dont get it.

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>>4321821
>his goal is to post bird photos on a regular basis instead of strive to take better photos
There's your problem. There is no gold here, queer. Go to plebbit.
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>>4321891
>thinking anyone is going to take bait this obvious
The only way you can post your snapshits is with sarcasm and humor so nobody takes them seriously enough to crit. It doesn't get any weaker than that.
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>>4321894
You know what is really weak? Not giving any constructive criticism.
If you don't know to say and image is shit just don't say anything.

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>>4321897
Judging from your photos you're 12, so there isn't much anyone can say to you
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>>4321904
That's just ad-hominem.
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>>4321913
>dares to talk about fallacies while ironically calling snapshits art
>being obnoxious and sarcastic with every photo posted
It's almost like you set the tone for this exchange because you'd rather argue over words than your actual photos.
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>>4321920
>rather argue over words than your actual photos.
If you cared even slightest bit about being a productive, you'd have easily spotted obvious fuck-ups.
For example >>4321888 should be cropped (or taken right in the first place, but if you check exif, you'd donate me $2000 on camera+lens combo, right?) Maybe light adjusted, I dont know. Wave arriving and gull running looks interesting because frozen motion is always interesting. Its like a discount high-speed camera video footage.
Or >>4321891 should have been taking in focus on gull, not on fucking antenna. Red light on butt looks cool.
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>>4321934
Who said I cared about being productive or wanting to help? Someone posted a snapshit along with a safety net cuck comment and I wanted to call them out. I'm not giving photo 101 crit on a fucking snapshit.
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>>4321892
The bird threads have more photos posted than any other thread. At least we post pictures and not just argue over gear and talk shit about peoples pictures.
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>>4321939
Then why the fuck are you here, nobody asked for your opinion. Fuck off back to /g/ or /v/ or whatever.
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>>4321940
>quantity over quality
Yes, bird threads are among the most casual threads for sure.
>>4321944
>nobody asked for your opinion
Indirectly, passive-aggressively begged for here:
>>4321897
>>4321934

Face it, he (you, whatever) asked for this interaction by posting a shitty snapshot and trying to art troll. The photos are so bland and forgettable, the only chance of interaction was through words. That's pathetic.
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>>4321947
Welp, I guess bird photos don't transmit smell of shit and piss associated with photograph of some shitty street with dogshit embedded into cobblestone and sodium piss color monochromatic lights and some shitty old commieblocks. Or smell of some homeless dude or some female dick hole. Oh right with bokeh due to f/0.0001 because look at me i bought super fast wide angle lens im photograph now.
Birds are just too pure for you I guess.
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>>4321954
>pure
You're an urbanite who shoots common flying rats on city streets.
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>>4321954
>look at me i bought niggor slava z 180-600mm ukie blaster S rank or, panasoink 200-800 f8-12.6 super zoomy with 2x TC, now i am photographer, behold, bird in front of bokeh, with such feather detail
Same shit innit?
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>>4321958
I think you hate him because his photos are honest and PVRE compared to bokeh birds straight outta the wikipedia info box
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>>4321964
>>4321963
Ok post some bird or wildlife photos that are worthy for you guys.

I'd like to add that wildlife photos are more about what the bird or animals are doing and that could be just a wierd pose on a stick.
They are the subject, the biggest part of the composition. If a good background is caught or good lighting is caught that's what just adds a little more to the package.
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If anyone's wondering what happened to these threads it's simple: The people changed. These aren't the threads of old. We used to have "Wildlife Photography" or "Bird Photography" threads but now we have the flood of casual normalfag snapshitters starting threads titled "Birds." It's no longer about photography. The whole board is like this now.

Look at OP's photo. It's a total snapshit on every level. You cold take 10,000 of these every day without even trying and the only interaction the OP received was answering his question. My comment (over 180 posts in) is the first to even address the photo it's such utter shit. Yet he chose to start a thread with it and was probably excited to do so. Bear in mind he was probably sitting on this snapshit for days waiting for the old thread to reach its limit so he could have it front and center. That's just how far this board has fallen. This is a casual board for casuals to dump snapshots on now, not a photography board. It's just a normal imageboard no different than any of the others.

I blame the TikTok/YouTube MUH CONTENT treadmill for much of this mindset, as well as the overall decline in integrity of society. People don't actually care about a craft anymore, just content. They just want their (You)s.
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>>4321969
>just fill the frame with max subject detail just forget lighting action and background bro
>btw you need to spend 5 months taming the birds around your swamp or 5 months working to pay for a 600mm f4+teleconverter set
why is bird photography so limited to subject detail wank? just get a pet or go to a zoo and you can take the same photo with a kit zoom
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>>4321974
You don't get it. So why are you even here trying to tell us what YOU think the photos are all about?
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>>4321974
>copeposter makes up fantasies to make himself feel better
Tell me you're a snapshitter without telling me you're a snapshitter. The truth is you're just lazy, ignorant, and incompetent and have standards so low they can be met by taking literally any photo of any bird.
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>>4321974
tbf the zoo photo would be better as long as the enclosure was pretty and you werent shooting through glass. even better if it’s an enclosed wildlife preserve or rescue. tame captive animal, way easier to get a good pose in good light and play with composition without being a cuck to big gear, inc.

anyone who has a problem with it still believes in the photographic truth lie
>my bokeh is actually a national forest bro
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>>4321979
>copeposter proves just how little integrity he has
>>4321973 is 100% right
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>>4321958
Yes. There is a difference however, between taking a pic of piss, and standing in piss to take a pic.
>>4321963
Yeah, except using a telephoto lens is a bit more difficult than using ultra fast wide angle. Especially when subject you're trying to take a photo of is constantly trying to fuck off, and in general moves about as fast as shutter of your camera.
In street photography you only really care (technical side wise) about aperture, and focus. Shitter speed is fast, photo takes minimal amount of positioning and hardest part is probably running away from homeless dude.
In case of taking a pic of bird, it is much more hard as you have to predict the trajectory of a bird (if non-stationary), trust in AF (which will focus on branches because that's what AF does), or miss focus yourself. Use tripod or have surgeon precision hands and arms. Being in the sun, lie down in shit, get bitten by all mosquitos. Or in case of taking pics of birds in the city, have gear stolen lol.
Also, I don't think you need gear for street photography. A phone would probably do if you really want to. With birds, this won't work.
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>>4321979
You forget the wankers who think the authenticity of their bird on a branch at sunset has scientific value
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>>4321983
Reality check yall use cameras with fire and forget autofocus and super high ISO performance+AI denoise
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>”is there really a difference between zoo bokeh and forest bokeh besides the expense of the lens required”
>endless seethe every time
Kek gearfags
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>>4321982
>muh integrity
Its a photo. It could have been drawn, edited however, AI generated. They have had 0 integrity since the dawn of photography when people were using it to fake photos of ghosts and giant grasshoppers.
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>the severe drop in the quality of these threads directly matches the rise in copeposting casuals with no standards
Coincidence? Also if zoos are nothing to be ashamed of why do you always try to crop out the fences, handlers, and collars? Oh, that's right. It's because you're seething copeposting liars. Only insecure people copepost.
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>>4321992
>ure not a real wildman like me, the guy who overspent on zooms to keep the salt licks and grain blocks out of the frame
im a hunter too i know everyone “cheats”
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>>4321990
>thinks integrity is a photo
I'm talking about you as a person but apparently NPCs don't grasp this concept. This total acceptance of fakery, cheating, and laziness is proof that you're depressed. Congrats, you are just a worker bee now.
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>>4321993
>if i just convince myself that everyone else cheats i will feel better about it
They don't and you won't. You're the reason why you're depressed.
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>>4321995
>>4321996

BASED
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>>4321985
I use world's most premium camera.
> with fire and forget autofocus
More like fire and regret autofocus, since its slow and gets confused by anything since its just a contrast seeker.
>super high ISO performance
ISO 800 max. With unacceptable levels noise. But you know, CCD noise adds to character and art no?
>AI denoise
I dont have that, but I have chromatic aberration correction in software, ability to take 1 (one) raw file before camera crashes and uuuh. Around 100 hot pixels.
Most remarkable shit is that i figured out 24X (575 mm eq) zoom model and X30 (720 smth mm eq) models have exactly same optics and difference is just a setting in the engineering menu. I downloaded more tele-zoom. I am happy.

Jokes aside, even with fire and forget, bird photography is more challenging because you need to predict trajectory and imagine what your camera is taking without looking at the screen/viewfinder. And even with OIS and whatever sensor shift stabilization its still a pain to freehand the thing, because shit acts like a lever and all your errors are multiplied by an enormous factor. That is a less of a problem with shorter focal distances (literally anything else except bird and wildlife), to the point that even a phone with its tiny sensor and plastic lens can correct shakiness and what not.
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>>4322001
>predict trajectory
So artistic.
snapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnap "I GOT ONE! I WONDER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE!"
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>>4321974
>why is bird photography so limited to subject detail wank? just get a pet or go to a zoo and you can take the same photo with a kit zoom
It is very different. If i can go to pet zoo, i can just cum on the bird right there, right? And I cant cum on the bird that's far away, so best I can do is take a pic and cum on the viewfinder
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>>4321973
Do you know how pretentious you sound? Has anyone ever told you that you come across as a complete asshole?

I'll ask again. What do you consider a GOOD photo of birds? What exactly is wrong with the OP photo to make it not fit your standard? Maybe they just started off in the world of photography.

This is like some art fag who thinks picaso was probably pumping out masterpieces one after another. No the great painters painted a lot of bullshit too.
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>>4321995
>you as a person
I have integrity specifically because i will never accept, believe, or imply that truth is any component of photography. I shoot at zoos specifically as a refutation of the importance of “real photography”. It doesnt even matter if your zone of sharp focus covers miles, everything in a camera’s FOV has no truth or lie to it. It is low effort digital painting. It does not prove anythint
>I HAVE SO MUCH INTEGRITY MY BOKEH BIRDS ARE WILD (HONEST)
You have no integrity because you believe, say, or imply that truth is involved in photography. It is not. Never has been. Can not be.
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>>4321995
How can you cheat at something that isn’t a game? Where’s the judges? Where’s the rules?

It’s art, dingus, not wildlife research that requires GPS tagged HFR video corroborated by a second biologist. You are playing a game that doesnt exist

Re: the lie of photographic truth
Spot ok but some retards built their egos around the supposed truth of their photography
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>>4322002
>So artistic.
Its not artistic, its just skill.
>snapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnapsnap "I GOT ONE! I WONDER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE!"
Hmm. Last time I checked burst photo is 3 fps on my device and is very useless.
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>casuals getting roasted
based
>cheaters getting roasted
giga based
>cheaters getting defensive
lmao, getting some popcorn
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>>4322007
>if i use a shitty enough camera i can claim my bokeh birds demonstrate my superior skills at… a non productive activity on the level of “driving stick without hill start assist”
Car analogies are never not perfect for photography

You got a big ego for someone who competes directly with midjourney prompts.
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>>4322008
>Bokeh bird: zoo and bokeh bird: woods are identical
>Logical conclusion: bokeh bird = shitty entry level photo only good for demonstrating gear and checking your pet parrot for mites
>Hurt feeling conclusion: U FUCKIMG CHEATED! HAX! THIS IS AN INSULT TO MY WILDERNESS SKILLS (bag of birdseed) MUH INTEGRITY
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>>4322010
Please understand they cant imagine a real creative pursuit like deep focus bird: studio
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>>4322007
Bird portraits are made. Bird in flight photos are taken.
>i only get snapsnapsnap per second
Just means you get less mystery bags handed to you for pressing a button as you fill your buffer with your "skill".
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>people arguing over cropped ai enlarged snapshits of boring birds taken by fat autists in parking lots
/p/
>people actually defending it as just as legitimate as wildlife photography
nu /p/

the copers are evolving
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>>4322014
Actually has reading comprehension here

They're only defending it if you see bokeh birds as legitimate wildlife photography in the first place. The overall idea seems to be:
If you think the only that matters in a photo is subject detail and even lighting is irrelevant if you zoom in on a little rare bird, you might as well stick your m43 lens through a cage in a zoo.
If you think what's not important is taking an artistically sound photo, but that photo being proof of "skill", then you might as well stick your m43 lens through a cage in a zoo and lie, because photos have never proved anything without extensive secondary, non-photographic evidence and you are already lying by attaching the notion of truthfulness to something that can not have it.
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>>4322009
No bokeh, very restrictive aperture
>>4322013
I dont even know what you're trying to say.

My point:
>same equipment and suitable lens for whatever
Taking a pic of a bird far away is hard and requires some planning. Requires tripod or non-shaky hands.
Taking a pic of a bird in a zoo is way easier and requires less planning
Taking a pic of street is even easier because it's more static.
Taking a portrait of a human is easier than a bird because you can just throw rocks or whatever to make them pose right.

A skilled operator of a photocamera can take all these pics with high success rate.
A retarded operator of a photocamera would 95% of the shots somehow no matter how much dollars.

Art is different. Red light on gull butt = art. Gull cleared for takeoff = art. Bokeh hawk taking a shit = art. Gull butt = art. Gull devouring a fish (with bulge on neck visible) = art. Eagles fucking on a corpse of animal = art.
Bokeh hawk in the forest = not art. Parrot in the zoo = not art. Gull at the fish dump doing nothing = not art. It is same as taking a pic of cat on iphone and uploading to instagram, too generic.
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>>4322020
A parrot in the zoo, taken with creative intent waiting for the correct pose and lighting IS art, and it is more art than taking a random lucky snapshit. The fact that it's a zoo and not a jungle is irrelevant - unless you are trying to bring truth into photography, but photography is incompatible with truth because it is fundamentally the misrepresentation of reality no matter how hard you try to have "integrity" .

What's relevant is creative intent producing something that is artistically sound. Well lit, with shape, color, and contrast and their interactions well chosen, the subject posing like the artist wanted them to pose - does it matter that it's a woman in a studio instead of a stranger in the woods? Oh wait, you see, when you take the word "bird" out of the equation, your friend to the animals/master hunter larp can't apply and the answer is more obvious.

And likewise, the zoo/studio does not necessarily beget art, it just makes it less of a time waster to create, and shooting on location is irrelevant unless you USE THE LOCATION to bring something new to the photo besides things that are already available in the studio, even if you use a tame animal - or consenting model, instead of a wild one/stranger.
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>>4322020
>says taking a pic of a bird from far away is hard but ignores that it's harder to get close ups
This is called cope. Comparing using a tripod or having steady hands to the ability to approach and position yourself for a close up of a stationary hawk is cope.
>compares taking a pic of a bird from far away to taking a pic of a bird in a zoo
And again the only people you can position beneath you on the ladder are zoofags.
>gives fake statistics on photographers and success rates because he's a clueless kid
Embarrassing.
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I'm just glad you parasites haven't figured out where all the good posters went yet. Although if you ever did, we'd just ban you.
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>>4322023
High IQ, knows photography is artsy bullshit

>>4322026
Low IQ, thinks photography will get him status

Good animal photography is so much more than a gearfaggy camera operation/animal interaction pissing contest of unprovable claims. It is just good photography.
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>>4322028
>maybe if i call it animal photography instead of wildlife photography nobody will notice
YWNBAWP
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The snapshitter fears the standards.
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>>4322029
Calling it wildlife attaches a notion of photographic proof which is philosophically and practically impossible. A photograph is less trustworthy than the words from your mouth because it can’t take a polygraph. If someone showed you a photo that looked like it came from the moon would you just believe they were an astronaut?
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>>4322031
>the standards: dont tell them its from a zoo
Photographic truth is the most dangerous joke on earth.

If you want to play some sort of game go birdwatching in a pair with a birdwatching authenticity judge who is under contract not to lie, and make sure you both GPS tag everything.
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>>4322033
>still can't grasp integrity
NPC. You should care about what you think of yourself but can't because you don't have any self-awareness, just a hyper-awareness of the hive. You are not a person.
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>fake wildlife photogs coping at maximum cope
People only cope when they are being humiliated.
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>integrity
>photography
YOU are the NPC. Thoughtless sheep have been programmed with the idea that photography is inexorably proof of something to ensure they believe everything they see on the news. You are truly, genuinely, not a human being if you are capable of believing that a photograph carries any truth or proof whatsoever.

Step 1: “i am a better person because my photographs are authentic”
Wrong. You fail here. You are a bad person for claiming that a photograph is authentically anything but a stylized lie.

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>>4322023
>A parrot in the zoo, taken with creative intent waiting for the correct pose and lighting IS art,
It's a mugshot.
> and it is more art than taking a random lucky snapshit.
Its art.
>Well lit, with shape, color, and contrast and their interactions well chosen
Mugshot
>the subject posing like the artist wanted them to pose
Mugshot or stock photo. And impossible with animals.

Difference between art (painting) and photo is that artist with ai prom- paintbrush can adjust actions to his liking. You can't. So you have to rely at randomness for the most part.
I've better question. Forget about animals and humans, they move too fucking much. What about buildings.
What is art? And what is an engineering report on rebar poking out and then getting fixed? Are both art? Where does mugshot end and portrait begin?
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>>4322038
all photographers are fake if they claim to be anything but a cameraman
everything you ever did had no truth value and was only guessed to be truth-like because people thought you’d never put in the effort to lie
now super teles are cheap and everyone has AI, so we can finally put a bullet in this “truth in journalism” thing and leave it behind. journalism has existed solely to distort reality since its inception and claiming you are a better person for using a more expensive lens to take an unprovably “real” picture that is indistinguishable form a zoo snap makes you the dumbest sheep in the pasture. photography is purely art and carries the truth value of a painting or a short story. it has 0 connection to reality and never has had one period. it is fundamentally impossible.

instead, focus on making good art instead of peacocking with unprovable claims about irrelevant banal skills.
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>>4322039
>3rd time missing that the integrity isn't referring to the photograph, but your actions
You are literally incapable of acknowledging yourself, kek. You can't get any more NPC than that. Do I need to explain it a 3rd time? OK:

You can download some hacks and win at an online video game by cheating. The problem with integrity is personal, and lies with you. It has nothing to do with being able to cheat at the game or anyone else thinking you are cheating or not. It's about your sense of legitimacy, integrity, pride, self-respect, and accomplishment. Can you comprehend this yet?

This concept is alien to the NPC.
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>i can't get any good shots so will just go to a zoo or use ai
>i'm fine with this because others could be doing it too
the eternal cope lol
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>>4322041
>animals can not be purposefully manipulated
But they can.
>wheres architecture end and reportahe begin?
Art is measured apart from randomness by creative intent. By intending for the photograph to be artistic rather than a low effort descriptive sketch.

Putting paint on a dogs tail does not make the dog an artist, that title belongs to the person that put the paint there. Training a dog to paint may make the dog an artist if they engage in motions they were not specifically taught. A dog with paint placed on its tail is just a guy with a camera, a dog that engages in novel tail movements to create something rather than wagging it is an artist.

Say your gear is your tail, does it wag you?
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>>4322044
Once again you fucking retard. The game is rejected outright. The only move you can make to have any integrity is to say TRUTH IN PHOTOGRAPHY CAN! NOT! EXIST!

You do not have integrity
You are yet another NPC who thinks photography has ANY connection to real world past events

You are fundamentally attached to the idea that there is truthfulness if your photo is from the woods and you are truthfully proving a skill
I am telling you that it is beyond not mattering. It is fundamentally nonsense.

I REJECT the idea that a photograph is anything but or beyond a picture. There is NO room to prove skill or integrity. None. It CAN NOT EXIST. ALL photographs are PURE
LIES

Do you understand you fucking NPC
Photographs have no connection to truth.
That includes using them to truth-make integrity by proxy
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>>4322044
hes right. you’re the npc because the idea that you can “cheat at photography” does not logically follow unless you believe in photographic truth which is an oxymoron.
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>>4322044
>little bugmam programmed to believe what he sees on the news calls others NPCs
all the time you spent taking flatly lit poorly composed bokeh birds produced nothing that dall-e hadnt already. your claims of skill are unprovable. there was no cheating or fair play because there was no game and no referee. outside of a contest all photography is 0% reality.
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Can we just have a thread for sharing photos of birds without the photographer police shitting on it?
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>>4322046
>ai and zoo
Copers gonna cope, but eventually the copamine burnout kicks in and they'll find something else to half-ass. Wildlife requires patience and passion and there's none of that to be found in those sorts of people. They are at the very bottom of the scale and pretty uncommon I'd imagine. Best not to dwell on them, but to ignore.

Regarding enjoyment of photography in general though, if you want extra gratification use film. I know it's a meme but I recently went back and don't know why I stopped. Well, I do, but those reasons don't matter to me much anymore. What I remembered as a hassle feels more like soul to me now. We don't know how good we had it, hindsight is 20/20 etc... all the boomerisms. Digital is still great but film is more fun, just like driving stick is more fun than automatic because it gives you more to do. (Car analogy for meme's sake). Also despite the elitist memes it isn't much more difficult than digital, just more difficult and time consuming to learn on. If you can shoot a digital camera manually, you can shoot film.
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BIRD POLICE! ON THE GROUND!
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>>4322061
My passion is for taking a fat dump on the notion that photography has any connection to the material and is somehow set apart from any other machine assisted image creation. It should be directly compared to AI because it is actually the same thing, but prompt construction is more time consuming. Yes even on film. How do you think they filmed the moon landing? Not on the moon. They created a prompt (the idea expressed through human actions) and fed it into the machine (the camera) to create the image (frames and negs)
>driving a stick
How to spot a “car enthusiast” among “good drivers”. Does it all really come down to gear lust and “being a photographer” (gear inclusive) above “making good photographs”?
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>>4322064
now this is genuine art. should be on loop in the MOMA complete with the 4chan post.
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>>4322065
>did you know i'm an angry schizo?
(Yes)
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>>4322067
>angry
High test, high IQ emotion for master morality ubermensch
>schizo
Perceptive of reality in a way that inconveniences the elites and their slaves alike

There are right schizos and there are wrong schizos. Never 4get, before mk ultra was the truth(tm) on wikipedia, it was “schizos spouting nonsense against good common sense, morality, and integrity”
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>>4322068
>i am so angry about having no photos that i make everything about digital and film alteration, nasa, and the cia
You seem to be arguing with yourself here. What does taking a photo of wildlife being different from taking a photo of captive animals have to do with any of this?
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The thing that hurts the most about photography and truth being exclusive of each other is that suddenly you need to bring other people with you to see stuff and tell people where you went so they can see it too.

I just want to be alone and convince normies i’m good at something, not hear another autist call my skills unemployable consumer tech wank equal to writing an AI prompt.
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>>4322070
>What does taking a photo of wildlife being different from taking a photo of captive animals
It is not just the exact same thing, you can stage or edit photos so these things appear to be each other.
>but-
No ref, no game. No witness. No GPS tag. No samples. No video. What is it? AI generated probably.
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>>4322048
>Say your gear is your tail, does it wag you?
lol
Idk. I see smth looks interesting, I take a pic. I dont see things looking good, and i don't need a pic to document something, I don't take a pic.
Bird pic can be used to document that "yes I saw this bird". It can be also an art form, but I still have no fucking idea when art starts. Wherever I feel like it was an interesting shot, which might not have necessarily a good lighting, or shit even in focus, but has to look interesting.

Idk. thing is describing art is something I hate since middle school. So I'd like to avoid all terminology like feelings, storyline, mood, whatever. I guess art is when you can sell it for money, which means this is not art.
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>>4322073
the official autism is “art communicates abstract messages through coded sensory input”
so to make art you need to be assumed to be conscious and acting purposefully, and if you fail to communicate anything, its assumed not to be art or you are assumed to have poor communication skills. or if someone is feeling mean they doubt your consciousness and ability to act purposefully. if you accidentally communicate something, no one knows, so just never tell anyone exactly what you
meant. ever. suck off an art critic and they will give you an extremely vague paragraph that encourages multiple interpretations none of which you meant. voila enjoy your sales.
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>>4322070
From what I gather, someone is upset about being called illegitimate for shooting at a zoo (I just skimmed the thread) so is attacking the common denominator, which is the act of photography itself. This way they don't have to admit the difference of the two acts in their mind despite them being completely different experiences.

Just classic straw man BS, I don't really see any new thinking/coping here. /p/ has always been like this.
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>>4322076
They are different experiences but not different photographs. Doubt it? Rig a section of cage in front of your lens for that geometric haze of captivity and go shoot in the woods. Then go to the zoo and get your camera past the cage in a realistic looking enclosure.

Does the photograph have any connection to your experience? No. It’s a story. Bullshit, in fact. Who will prove it no ref, no game. It never mattered where you went. If its about the experience wear a wide angle video camera and hope you get enough info that you dont have the budget to fake that much shit. If it’s about a picture of a bird it doesnt matter.
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>>4322075
>the official autism is “art communicates abstract messages through coded sensory input”
>so to make art you need to be assumed to be conscious and acting purposefully, and if you fail to communicate anything, its assumed not to be art or you are assumed to have poor communication skills. or if someone is feeling mean they doubt your consciousness and ability to act purposefully.
it appears someone has considered the metaphysical implications of their camera
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>>4322075
>the official autism is “art communicates abstract messages through coded sensory input”
Well, i guess this is more art then, since I experienced pain trying to fix it, and now viewer is experiencing pain because sensor was hammered down.
>so to make art you need to be assumed to be conscious and acting purposefully, and if you fail to communicate anything, its assumed not to be art or you are assumed to have poor communication skills. or if someone is feeling mean they doubt your consciousness and ability to act purposefully. if you accidentally communicate something, no one knows, so just never tell anyone exactly what you
Thus bird photo isn't an art, just a skill.

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>>4322077
suddenly youtubers vlogging their photo outings seem like gigachad knowers instead of narcissists
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>>4322077
It seems we engage in photography for completely different reasons.

If the act of shooting wildlife means something to someone then no, they are not the same photo to that individual; one is fulfilling, the other is not. It doesn't matter if it looks the same to others if the only person you care about proving anything to is yourself. That's kind of how contentment and setting self-goals works. You can't deceive yourself.
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>>4313178
>old thread swiftly filled with garbage and hit limit
>quick, pile more garbage in here
>i'll start, here's my garbage
>be sure to jerk off each other's garbage
>post as much garbage as you can
>last one in is a nophoto lol
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>>4321985
fuck man i wish the autofocus was fire and forget

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>don't check the thread for a couple days
>suddenly +100 posts of some nigger sperging out
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>>4322376
you're so lucky to have these chill herons around
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>>4322379
I gotta trek it in the forest to see herons where I live... maybe I'll do some research and find some local to me. Would be great to get some photos of them.
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>wait 60 seconds before making a post
>connection error
>connection error
>you seem to have mistyped the captcha
cheap cheap

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niggor what the fuck are you doing
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>>4322862
snapshitting around with a cheap m43 tier lens duh

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>>4315101
This owns, although I'd probably crop out the wing in the lower left corner.
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>>4315351
True
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>>4322061
>Wildlife requires patience and passion and there's none of that to be found in those sorts of people. They are at the very bottom of the scale and pretty uncommon I'd imagine. Best not to dwell on them, but to ignore.

Most people who get into wildlife are in the same mindset as those who get into hunting, just they don't feel the need to kill the subject.
I got into wildlife because I liked the aspect of collecting photos of of the crazy things I saw while out in the bush, this includes tracks, scent mounds, animal paths, bird and rodent behaviors, etc... and I relate, and converse quite well with hunters.
Bird photography is a bit different than generally wildlife I found tho, there's so many variables, so many poses, actions, colors, looks, attributes, that just a photo of a bird even just sitting on a branch is interesting.
All these people saying these photos are snapshits are looking for the gold standard, when a bird lover or wildlife enthusiast sees much, much more.
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>>4323405
Snapshits are still snapshits though. There are good and bad photos in all of these threads but mostly bad. Nobody gets a free pass just because they like birds and they should strive for more than a simple ID shot.
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stack of a noisy miner swooping a white-faced heron in my backyard
my SS was too low for BIF ik
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>>4323426
This is EXTREMELY based and trve art. I wish I had interesting birds instead of entire fields of crows and sparrows.
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>>4323410
Whooooosh....
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