>>4353443
i prefer the zf. looks better and has pixel shift

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>>4353443
>double the price
>f/2.5
Sonysisters... what went wrong??

>>4353449
Sony has minimum requirements for size and big shareholder groups designing their lenses, not actual scientists and photographers

>>4353443
Make it SLR and I buy it instantly
Make it SLR/Mirrorless hybrid and I buy two

>>4353443
thats a videocamera

>>4353443
Nikon-sisters, it feels euphoric to finally have a camera that can compete with the 5D mark 2 + a 40mm f2.8 stm after all these years!!! Maybe someday we'll have something that can match the mark 3!!!

>>4353443
>lower DR than the original Z6
>shadow flickering
>partial stacked shitshow

huge blunder by Niggon

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Meanwhile a D850 is still just as good or even better than the THIRD generation of Nikons milc lineup.

Whats the point.

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>>4353551
I'm still shooting my D3. Not really sure if I want to upgrade to 850 yet. Maybe in another 10 years.

>>4353548

Solution: Buy a small lightweight film camera (such as a FG), use primes with lens hood, shoot Ektachrome (look for bulk loaded rolls) with an 81a-812-KR1.5 (most accurate) or KR3 filter.

Enjoy superior lifelike rendering that no digital device can match when viewing or projecting the slides directly, from a camera small enough to always take with you (endless photo opportunities)!

>>4353449
Its actually sharp
Its weather sealed
It has a metal mount and real glass
It has a declickable aperture ring and an af/mf switch

>>4353560
Yeah the thing that gets ignored is that you gotta stop the EFS 24mm f/2.8 down to at least f/4 for edge-to-edge sharpness. If the snoy pancake is sharp at f/4.5 then it looks like an even playingfield

>>4353561
The sony 40mm f2.5 is razor sharp at f2.8 and has a leica or voigtlander like rendering at f2.5

The Nikon plastishit 40 f2 suffers from so much field curvature that f8-16 are its only good apertures. Lets not even go into nikons oversized bodies that cost a ton but even the z8 has worse autofocus than an entry level canon

Here are the only big mirrorless worth buying:
Sony a7rv a1
Canon RP R8 R6II R5II R3 R1
Leica M11 and all variants
Fujifilm GFX100(S)II
Hasselblad 907x+cfv100c

Otherwise just go mft/apsc/dslr, you arent missing out on much but pixel peeping NIGGONS f1.4 sized f1.8s whenever you actually hit focus

>>4353571
but nikon has no good apsc bodies either…

nikon sissies, why is our market share going down while fujis goes up?

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>>4353443
>>4353449
I had a sony and then a nikon

the sony setup was better and funner in literally every way except for the part where it fell in a lake and then later the ibis dropped to -1 stops, not just including the lens, especially the lens. if you have a nikon the best course of non-poorfag action is to adapt that sony lens instead of using the native alternative.

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>>4353575
i genuinely wish the sony didn't break and i never would have been memed into buying a nikon

if i was never exposed to /p/ i would have never bought a nikon, i would have bought another sony. now i have a mf film box and a toy camera instead.

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>>4353576
wew that was a bad month for editing

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>>4353576
>nooooo /p/ made me based i wanted to be a normie with an a7iv and north borders edits

>>4353575
>>4353576
>>4353579
>NOOOO SONY RAPED MY DOG!

>>4353443
I went back to an old Z7 + 2 lenses.
Its great.

>>4353451
That is the lens photographers and videographers would ask for.
>aperture ring
>custom button
>af/mf switch

I don't want a scientist anywhere near my camera during the design process lest they start masturbating over partially stacked sensors and mount dimensions.

>>4353552
Exactly. There's like no point to upgrade.

>>4353594
>videographers
Ewww who cares. Hybridization is everything wrong with cameras today, those faggots already had camcorders why they have to shit everything up for the stills people too

>>4353599
Early mirrorless and later DSLRs did hyrbidization right. Video was there, and good enough for home movies/youtube, but it wasn't such a priority stills got KEKED.

Now we have the current situation, with low DR full frame cameras and oversized lenses - "but but but the focus breathing correction!" "the overheating on those 2hr takes in 4k60! THE UNCROPPED 4k120!" yeah ok but my "camera" now sucks as a camera compared to a d750. Yikes.

>>4353601
it's ironic because whenever I want to take a video I use my iPhone. it's less trouble than fucking around with the video settings on my cam and also I don't really care if it's perfect because video is just snapshits
I care about stills quality though
once my kid gets a little older and can hold still for a while I won't be needing AF performance and I can go back to leica M

>>4353599
>Hybridization is everything wrong with cameras today
truth nuke

>>4353608
not quite! eshutter FPS obsession is the other thing wrong with cameras today.

>>4353445
Fpbp

Z f is Nikon’s once in a decade camera and is the patrician choice.

>>4353621
It's really not. I sold mine pretty quick because the body UX is really, really, really bad. It's not their best camera ever, it's just the nikon that sucks the least.
>way, way too big. i blame the tech wank surround Z mount for this. a shallower, wider mount is good for making it more economical to design overcorrected autofocus f0.8 primes I guess. too bad about the bloating consequences for all other lenses and the bodies.
>only 3 lenses make sense on it: all 3 are junk that makes me yearn for the build and optical quality of ancient AF-D lenses
>which, btw, still dont work
>not enough custom buttons, did not put drive modes on a sub-dial. what was wrong with 2 around the mount like every other nikon? buy z6iii pls? buy inevitable megapixel overkill nikon a7riv? no thank you
>standard nikon cine-still switch around af-on gone. why?
>a fucking JPEG SETTING on the subdial that should have been drive modes
>idiotic interaction between auto exposure modes and dials, fuji did it way better, and it's not like they own a patent on it. why go against a system thats popular enough for a super shit aps-c camera to outsell your entire brand, again?
$2000 camera, folks. After you add on the grip and the average non-shit lens you're left with a nikon R6II with worse ergos.

>>4353624
can you share some pictures you took with it?

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>>4353626
Yes but none of them are any good because i never took it out of the house as long as I had film for my om-2 (unironically a better camera)

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>>4353627
ty for sharing

>>4353629
Its hard to find pictures from it that dont have people in them. It was only in use for about 2 weeks.

If it was a lot cheaper and slightly smaller maybe it would have been fun. I never should have gearfagged hard enough to consider it. On those grounds, the Z6II with worse autofocus is actually a better camera that I enjoyed using more than the design failure of the century.

>>4353624
>the argument against it is that he doesn’t like the ergos and prefers PASMshit.
You’re supposed to shoot it like an old film camera. The UX is much better than any new camera because of it. So yeah if you want plebeian automatic modes and sortcuts I guess it misses the mark. If you want to take good pictures and have full manual control then the Z f is the best currently produced camera you can buy. Also, the 40mm kit lens is superb even if its plastic.
>no native glass with aperture ring
Yeah I’d like that too but it’s such a non issue. Buy a Voightlaender if you want that.

>>4353634
alright, screw the aperture ring, is it at least assignable to one of the dials?

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>>4353634
>You're supposed to shoot it like an old film camera
>You're supposed to use the manual lens
If it's frustrating as nikons only professional camera that doesn't have its sensor suffering for videosports, and only good as an oversized fe2, just shoot film. Simple as.

If I ever need a professional camera again I'll just rent a canon and a 24-70.

>>4353637
You can use the control ring to change aperture

>>4353539
every camera that came after canon 5d 4 and nikon d780 produces dog shit ugly pictures.
5d 2 is dog shit too, mk4 is perfect.
>>4353571
kys today

>>4353640
The control ring that has no clicks? Another nikon UX L. The ZF is just a money grab after-thought. Nikon's real goal is becoming panasonic.

>>4353571
I mostly agree but the a7c series are great for most people, I can't find anything wrong with the a7iv except for burst rate faggotry, and I disagree with the r3/r1 and a9 series being used for anything but newspaper journalism. Most people don't need a goofy looking, slightly crippled sony with an ethernet port. If you find a cheap enough a9ii, I guess its alright?

>>4353638
Yes. It’s defaulted to the front right dial under the shutter button.
>>4353639
I do shoot film. But when I’m shooting digital I ant that experience to be as similar to film as possible. The Z f does that in a way few other cameras do and doesn’t have dogshit build quality like a Fuji. No other digital camera has held my interest and kept me taking digital photos like a Z f because PASM and ergo grips are revolting.

>>4353644
>is bothered by fuji build quality, not all the bloat on the zf, the plastic Z lenses, and the plastic bottom plate
Your autism is not strong enough.

>>4353645
>bloat
I choose my file quality. I set my ISO. I set my aperture. I set my film speed. There’s an exposure compensation dial. That’s all there is to the camera.

Real bloat is custom dials and buttons and sub-menus that don’t matter.

Not trying to convince you. You’re clearly someone who enjoys the PASMshit experience and has small hands that cannot grip a traditional body. I’m just here to tell you that you’re wrong,

>>4353646
Shutter speed* sorry I’m sitting on a loud street and don’t really give a shit,

>>4353646
>You’re clearly someone who enjoys the PASMshit experience and has small hands that cannot grip a traditional body. I’m just here to tell you that you’re wrong.
I'm a "if it's there, it's meant to be used" kind of person. I don't necessarily prefer PASM and one of the problems with the Zf is that it is still a PASM camera instead of the older "put the dial on A" system. if Nikon wanted to make a legitimate competitor to leica in the retro market, that would have been great. Especially if it were an SLR, and SLR sized, or better yet, a revival of the nikon SP. Maybe they could fix the focusing experience by putting a mechanical focus lever on the body, coupled to the RF, that synced with the electronic focus control in the lens with no perceptible latency. But it's not that. It's a fuji skin slapped on top of a PASM z6ii with a firmware update.

>you cant use a real camera!
>took an om-2 or sq-a on every trip, left zf at home
Sure.

>>4353561
> If the snoy pancake
Sony has no pancakes though.

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>>4353646
>PASMshit experience
a-anon

>>4353663
>when you stick it in manual none of those are relevant
>it's like a digital Nikon FA

>>4353667
But twice as big and totally soulless and all the good lenses stick out by an extra cameras worth

Huskyfag is right. No wonder this camera made him go film only.

>ITT: autism

>>4353682
>artists are neurotic
:o

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>>4353685
>artists
> /p/ - Photography

>>4353634
any mirrorless camera trying to mimic old film cameras are the most soulless shit i have ever heard

>>4353688
>t. buck t. crab

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>>4353667
>Pay over 2 gran for a professional digital camera
>pretend its film
Pic related its you

>>4353692
>t. tartisan

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>me happy as a clam with my Z5

>>4353736
z5 owner here i gotta get rid of this shit the AF is nonexistant

>>4353740
It's just a budget blaster. Like a cheaper, worse, but weather sealed A7III. Dunno what you expected. It's not like nikon has a well earned #2/#1 brand spot.

The AF is about on par with foolji and panasoi.

>>4353740
I only had a film camera before this so the fact it has AF at all is fun for me

>>4353643
it does click tho

>>4353571
>canon RP
but why?

>>4353745
>he doesn’t like sovl
sony for you

>>4353624
LOL nice larp fag

>>4353641
>no interchangable focusing screen
idiot filtered

>24mp

lmaooooooooo

>>4353551
Based and redpilled, can't beat the joy of reflex
>>4353477
Based

>>4353748
Is it any different from the R, other than megapickles?

>>4353817
>what are video-oriented cameras
Why do you think Sony made the S variants?

>>4353842
>herrr it can do 6k!
>x100vi can do 6.2k
>40mp

>>4353817
a...anon, the megapickle wars are over, you can go home

>>4353845
>standard cameras are 40mp, 60+ on high res models, 100+ on MF
>the wars are over!

>>4353843
oh okay, it's just an insecure fujifag who wants to feel special

>>4353849
oh my sweet summer child, you have no idea how good you have it

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>>4353843
Not 6.2k effective

Same detail as 4k because of xtranny, then take it down to 2k for the soft lens

>>4353881
720p adjusted for a non streetfag FOV. Gotta crop.

>>4353849
No they arent. High megapixels do actually have worse noise (colors get fucked fast) and fuji is extra bad because xtranny is the bayer if bayer is the foveon

>>4353885
>>4353881
Once you adjust for fuji's added DR hit from the excessive pixel pitch it only shoots in VGA video

G9II wins again

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>>4353849
Sony going to over 30mp for the a7iv was an intentional move to make the a7siii look like it had better noise performance than it actually did.

>>4353885
>High megapixels do actually have worse noise
This has never not been true, and yet there are gearfag shill brigades that keep arguing against it with mental gymnastics like "if i downscale both images to 1 megapixel the signal to noise ratio is the same, so they're the same" but its clear the colors are fucked

The reason must be either a genuine MTF chart fetish, or they're being paid off by sony

>>4353912
If you take a 60, 40, and 30mp Sony and scale them down to 8mp then according to DXO the results are pretty much identical across the board, not just noise. I would assume the same would hold true if the 60 and 40 were taken down to 30,

>>4353950
Sans AI cope, color quality at high ISOs takes a nosedive with anything over ~26mp.

Even scaling to 8mp can't get rid of the color fog that you need to basically murder the colors to fully get rid of

>>4353560
it also fits on a Zf, not that anyone would want it to.

>>4353974
>color quality at high ISOs takes a nosedive with anything over ~26mp.
on APS-C or FF? It seems to be related to pixel pitch

bros is the Z6 I worth picking up second hand in 2024 if I've only ever shot film cameras?

>>4353984
Nobody wants it to because it only fits on a ZF in gearfag argument land. In real life, the adapter removes weather sealing, has power drain/circuitry melting issues, and has bricked cameras before.

>>4354016
>pay out the ass and get a bigger camera for muh ff dynamic range
>get pdaf striping if you actually use the ff dynamic range
might as well get a fujifilm. same autofocus too.

>>4354016
No, buy a Leica. You'll feel more at home.

>>4354026
>get a fujifilm
I kind of really want one lol

>>4354017
And because that shit adapter costs 300 bucks said and done. If its just to use sony lenses you dont have yet, at that point just consider it the ebay fee for selling your nikon junk and buying an a9ii

>>4353571
who hurt you lmfao

>>4353443

eventually i will get into z system, maybe Z50 and 26mm, it just will take plenty of time, managed to get three pictures with D1H and five batteries

>>4354412
ew get a fujifilm. they’re just better.

>>4353548
>lower DR than the original Z6
>a camera with a DR superior to almost every single camera on the market today

>>4355676
>Z6
>superior DR
Gearfags famously cut off DR based on the computed whole image SNR pre-NR raw files, a metric that has no relevance to anyone who actually takes photos whatsoever.

So why aren't they cutting off DR based on PDAF banding?

Why is it that Z5/Z6's are going for comparable prices on the used market to D750's? Are they about the same in quality?
I've been hearing that Nikon's quality has gone down recently

>>4355691
tech issues.
>z5, z6
really crappy autofocus made fuji look great
>z6, z7
PDAF banding in semi-deep shadows. the z6 and z7 also had recalls for defective IBIS units.
>z6ii, z7ii
this is the gen where the PDAF banding is mostly gone (if you really look hard, you might see it in the noise) and the autofocus is comparable to fujifilm's in tracking capability, speed, and accuracy. DSLRs still outperform it in the cluster point/single point modes you'd use when the tracking refuses to cooperate.

also, yes, nikon's quality went down. first they closed most of their service centers and began stiffing independent repair businesses, cutting off parts supply. then the z8 and z9 both had recalls (two recalls on the z8). ken rockwell got cameras to review and ended up dealing with tilted EVFs and shit. on top of them being the brand that wont repair your camera even if you pay if you live in the US and bought it from a japanese pawn shop, and canon cameras being comparable now, nikon is looking like they deserve to be #6 under panasonic and fuji.

>>4355695
It's a shame. I like the D750--I use one for work--but that's leaving me to choose between Canon 5DMIV's and Sony's A7III for comparable prices used.
Yes, I know the D750 will continue to be good, but in future-thinking, I'd rather be into companies that are playing well with consumers.

>>4355701
>Canon
>not milking every penny of its userbase

Pick one.

>>4355701
no japanese camera companies are playing well with consumers. european ones are just flat out taking their money with no pretense. this is a dead market, reverted to the oldest mean, overseen by total sticks in the mud, con artists, and luxury lifestyle brands because all of the people who could have made a choice and demanded improvement already sent their money to apple/samsung, so now the remaining camera companies are just finding creative ways to wring money out of the remaining people who were always buying ILCs.

>>4355708
Fujifilm, panasonic, and pentax are literally giving people exactly what they ask for

Are they doing it flawlessly? lol no small company problems

>>4355712
>exactly what they ask for
how's the supply of X-E4's going on, famalam?

>>4355733
Not enough money or parts to produce them

X100V and X100VI orders are too great. Chinese scalpers are ordering their entire supply and more.

>>4355701
>companies that are playing well with consumers.
Cannot think of any.
If you like the D750 and the f-mount lenses, just get it.
If you have more money, get a z8 or z9.
Cry once.

>>4355701
>I'd rather be into companies that are playing well with consumers.
Then your options are suicide or disappearing into the northern Canadian wilderness to live as a hunter-gatherer hermit.

>>4355780
sony releases phat firmware updates for old bodies while announcing their successors.
can your supplier say the same?
>>4355701
I wish BMD or DJI made MILC's. Incumbents would seethe.

>>4355782
>scraps thrown at me as an afterthought is them being nice
Anon, please

>>4355768
I like it because I know it. My job only had kit lenses for standard work, so I'm not attached. I like them, but I'm not opposed to learning new things. I really don't want to be saddled to a company's products while they are in the decline.

>>4355785
>I really don't want to be saddled to a company's products while they are in the decline.
Well then no panacanosnoynikon for you, Fuji it is!

>>4355786
>Fuji
The only part that's not in decline and designed to please, rather than rip off, photographers is the GFX line so yep, $8000 camera time!

>>4355786
Who's on the slowest/least steep angle of decline?

>>4355785
>I really don't want to be saddled to a company's products while they are in the decline.
I despise sony, but they're the only company that has a sensor fab, sensor design unit (and they need both to sell to their sensor customers too), AND camera and lens units too.
Or, IDK, get a Leica, lmao. They seem healthy but… you know,

>>4355791
canon's full-frame RF will be fine long term.
L has three non-meme companies making new bodies.
APS-C via FF mounts is the unwanted progeny, therefore RF-S, Z DX, and E are dead ends.

>>4355791
Canon

>>4355794
>leica L mount
>non-meme
Sigma bodies are a joke
Panasonic bodies should only be sold in cinebox format if they're just going to be fatter nikon Zs with video oriented firmware
Leica SL bodies are an absolute joke, no way would anyone actually want that more than a canon/sony unless they were the most retarded fart huffing, millimeter measuring gearfag

>>4355797
BMD is the company making good L bodies, senpai :^]

>>4355797
>Leica SL bodies are an absolute joke, no way would anyone actually want that more than a canon/sony unless they were the most retarded fart huffing, millimeter measuring gearfag
the demand seems to be big enough to consider that system not doomed long term.

Also, Leica seems to have competently joined the the instant photo memewave. Another source of high margin income.

>>4355801
Leica's camera division is a tiny fashion/passion project of a massive optics company that primarily supplies militaries, hospitals, and manufacturers. The SL series are mostly developed by panasonic so they can put the leica name in the hands of a few prestigious photographers

Kind of like how when fuji got annie leibovitz to lie about using a GFX (and twiddled their thumbs while whistling when her assistants forget to strip all the d810/sony exif)

I bought a 28 f2.8. It's not very good at 2.8.

>>4355802
>Leica seems to have competently joined the the instant photo memewave
wait what, wasn't only fujifilm doing that?

>>4355829
Leica rebrand cheap Fuji instax cameras for triple the price and idiots buy them.

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>>4355836
They do look a little less gaudy tho so thats nice but yeah fuck the leica tax.

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>>4355836
>>4355829
the tax is "only" 80%. Mini Evo is the comparison point, not the cheaper non hybrids.

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>>4355836
Same with the LX100. The similarity is very obvious

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>>4353552
This, but I'm on D800.
Why is the D850 still so damned expensive?

>>4357461
its expensive and giant and no one knows why. it doesnt even have built in GPS. why is it twice the price of a z7 in comparable condition?

apparently nikon started going downhill then (the d810s plastic mount sent up some red flags) and "nikon people" arent exactly sane these days. we're talking about a company that released ff cameras that couldnt use the whole ff dynamic range meme and has issued recalls for 4 new models (z6, z7, z8, z9) thus far are we not?

When are the Z6iis going to start dropping in price?

>>4357466
>look at ebay
>they got slightly more expensive since the z6iii came out
when the z5ii comes out

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>>4353736
I just got a Z5 and a 40 f/2 for it this week. I'm really liking it. I still have my D850 and a bunch of F-mount lenses. I should probably buy an FTZ II mount shouldn't i...
I still like that camera a lot but I'm already happier with the focus on the Z5. Just feels like the viewfinder focus on my D850 missed inconsistently. And I usually shoot by dropping a pin manually over the eye or what-have-you.
Maybe I should take it to a shop and ask if I'm just retarded. The live-view of the D850 doesn't miss focus nearly as much (different mechanism).

>>4357476
canon ovfs had better autofocus

nikon has always been inaccurate hence canon/sony people called Zs bad but to nikon people it was an upgrade

>>4357465
>GPS
What an absolute cuck feature.

>>4357483
>camera automatically notes where on the map each photo is
>NOOOO THE GUBMINT GLOWIE THAT IS PERSONALLY WATCHING ME WILL CATCH ME BANGING WILD HORSES ON MY HIDDEN COCAINE AND WEED FARM IN NORTHERN IDAHO
Dont worry anon you can always buy a sony. No GPS and no serial in the exif.

>>4357487
How the fuck did you know about the cocaine weed farm let alone the horses

>>4357487
No, more like what a fucking useless feature.
It's like complaining my camera doesn't have built-in tetris in the viewport.

>>4357461
No clue, might be good or something. I'll let you know in another 20 years when I get it for 25 bucks.

>>4357505
No need. I'll be getting one myself around the same time.

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>>4353560
>sony
>"weather sealed"

I want to get an analog wide angle lense for my Nikon Zf. Any suggestions? Something inbetween 24 und 28 mm

>>4357775
>analog wide angle lens
what does that mean

>>4357602
Reminder anti sony shills keep getting btfo
>>4356313
>nooo muh penispixel hose test where the camera dried out and was fine
>olympus has wr failure, broken
>fuji has wr failure, broken
>crickets

>>4357788
What is it you don't understand?
No auto-focus needed, hence analog
Wide angle indicates a focal length lower than 35mm

I will additionally rephrase my request: I'm looking for an analog wide-angle lens for my Nikon Zf. Do you have any recommendations for something between 24mm and 28mm?

The only people who are still adamant on using Nikon and Nikon only are 40+ years old. Grow up

>>4357818
If you wanted a good camera you wouldn't have a nikon so go off course and enter larptown

Ttartisan 6 bit M to Z adapter + Zeiss Biogon 21mm f2.8 ZM (chad option) or voigtlander 21mm f4 (virgin option)

>>4357818
if you mean manual focus, just say that
analog is ambiguous, and could imply something film (analog) related, like you were after a film-era or film-compatible wide angle
or could even mean the focus mechanism is mechanical (analog) and not focus by wire

ttartisan 6-bit adapter + voigtlander 28 f1.5

>>4357852
Shut up, you fucking retard.
The old AF lenses are analog, but have autofocus.

>>4353695
That is one depressing image.

>>4353849
Nobody needs more than 8Mp.

>>4357509
enjoy, cheers friend.

>>4357898
>aliasing doesnt affect dick pics anyways! actually you’re viewing photos too large sell your mac and buy a dell from 2008!

>>4357956
kek

>>4357898
you need around a gigapixel or more just to deliver a good 8MP of detail because you need to oversample until aliasing is no longer a problem
we're not there yet

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>>4353443
>Nikon-bro's, we are so back.
I never left anons.

crappy low-res jpg, but you get the idea

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>>4359426
Originally shot on the F2 on my desk in 1974.
Digitized by the Z7 right next to it in 2024.

Posted at 1/3 resolution.

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>>4359533
I bet mine is faster. höhö

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About to sell my X100V and get the Zf to use it only with that 40mm kit lens. Is it a good idea? I don't plan on buying more lenses.

>>4360007
>about to triple the size of my camera and switch to an entirely plastic lens for 1 extra stop of dynamic range

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>>4360033
Why do people on this site pretend that the zf is so huge? They say it's the size of a z8, but it's roughly the same size as a z6, and actually smaller in certain dimensions, like depth, because it lacks the grip and the viewfinder bulge on the back. I own the z6, and it's not a large camera. The lenses are a different story, though. They are quite large.

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>>4360107
>The ZF is NOT huge! look at how small it is next to the 2lb z8!
Are you high, or just so used to canonikon boomer blobs you have no perspective?

It weighs twice as much as the x100vi even with the shitty plastic lens that makes the $2500 of weather sealing you paid for entirely pointless. The 26mm is worse than the x100vi lens, also not weather sealed, and not even a whole lens without a filter and the hood. Only the giant lenses like the 35mm f1.8 are any good on nikon.

The DF was one and done abandonware made to scam hipsters and the ZF is too. The X100VI or OM-5 is a better camera for street photography. Even a snoy is.

>>4357602
This is only true before the newer A7s like the IV and RIV.

>>4359533
Is an F2 worth getting Anon? It seems like a great camera to have.

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>>4360107
Lots of people opt for the grip which adds a bit of bulk and weight. I've switched to a leather case instead, helps with the grip. but much smaller profile.
It's a fine size for edc, but I definitely notice the size difference compared to other edc picks. I think the extra width plays a big role, more-so than height or thickness.
Z 40mm is decent for the price

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>>4360121
Z 40mm is definitely fine for snapshitting your dog 5000 times but so is an x100vi which i can buy off amazon for the price of a zf alone and actually fits in a pocket

>>4360121
I dont understand. This is a $2500 camera setup but it looks like micro four thirds? You could have used a 16mp panasonic and 20mm f1.7 and this would look the exact same.

>>4360118
it isnt even true except for one petapixel test or something where the camera was fine after drying out.

There are plenty of user reports of olympus and fuji weather sealing failing and breaking cameras but that didnt make a bunch of shills flood /p/ and shill panasonic now did it

>>4360116
>Even a snoy is.
Woah let's not go crazy, anon.

>>4360128
Yup, it's a good edc lens, and an x100vi is a good edc camera option too, there are pros/cons to both.
Which nikon cameras and lenses do you use for snapshitting? You should share some of your shots.
>>4360130
>I dont understand.
Maybe one day you will? Be sure to stick around so you can also shit on my shots from more expensive setups.
Can we see a shot that really makes use of your nice nikon gear?

>>4360121
Nice pic anon. I'm extremely jealous of the Nikon 40/2 and also the 26/2.8. Not sure why they make /p/ seethe so much, especially the pancake. Those 2 would be the dream travel kit for me.

>>4360133
Noone is sticking around for another 10 dog snapshits taken on 10 different cameras. Huskyfag tier. Even doghair is more creative
>this week he’s doing dead plants instead of dead bugs

>>4360138
>nophoto

>>4360139
Huskyfag tier response
>i took a snapshit of my dog i am the camera buying expert
>lookslikemicrofourthirds.jpg

>>4360141
>Huskyfag tier response
Better than being a nophoto.
>i am the camera buying expert
Unironically, I bet I have more camera sales experience than anyone on the board. All I said though, was that Zf is kinda bulky in practice, and Z 40 is decent for the price. I take shitty photos, 100%, which is why I encourage others to post too, show me up instead of being a nophoto.

>>4360149
>i buy a new camera every week to snapshit my dog. i know what really matters.
One day you will wake up and realize a lumix gx8 is more than you need

Jeez, guys, all I was saying was that it's not as monstrously huge a camera as people claim it to be. Anyway, I've just purchased one, so I guess I'll see just how unwieldy my stupid hipster camera is when it gets here. It's certainly not a pocketable camera, but I wouldn't consider the x100 series pocketable either. I wouldn't even put my little Nikon A in my pocket, unless it was a winter coat.

>>4360153
Oh for sure, I don't need much, different cameras are fun though. Last I bought was the Zf, which is coming up on a year. Maybe one day you will take photos.
>>4360173
It's sick, enjoy.

I also very much like and enjoy the Zf, but the only way to reasonably use Auto ISO is in manual mode, as far as I've found out, and I can't do a 1/3 of a Stop when turning the compensation dial. Or am I doing something wrong...

>>4360173
I tried putting a Zf with a 28-75 lens mounted into one of the inner pockets on my everyday jacket. Not only could I get it in there, I could still close the zipper on the pocket completely. Same with a lens-less Z9. Z9 with a standard zoom on it could sorta be crammed in there, it wasn't going to fall out but I couldn't fully close the zipper and it'd be horribly uncomfortable to walk around like that.
Admittedly, those pockets are kinda ridiculous. But yeah, I'm not finding the Zf to be of bothersome size, if I'm not wearing something with pockets large enough for it (lens perhaps dismounted) then I won't have pockets large enough for anything more than my RX100. (And if that isn't the case for someone else, well, then that person should of course choose their camera according to what fits them.)

>>4363622
>and I can't do a 1/3 of a Stop when turning the compensation dial. Or am I doing something wrong...
I just grabbed mine and it does 1/3 stop increments on the exposure compensation knob, and the exposure parameters it selects changed accordingly.

I want a global shutter sensor with pixel shift in a Z9 body, is that too much to ask?

>>4363682
You're right, it does. But does it also show a value on the compensation meter? If it does it doesn't make any sense. And then it shows nothing.

>open thread
>NIKON TOO BIG
>..for street photography!
oh okay, street voyeur perverts.

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>>4363970
>But does it also show a value on the compensation meter?
Well, taking five minutes to play with the camera and see how it works (I only bought it last Saturday myself) this is what I found:
In M mode the exposure meter on the right is always shown. Turning the exposure compensation dial modifies the value shown there, you're basically dialling in the sight so you can aim at dead centre.
In the other modes there isn't much use for the exposure meter, on its own the camera will just try to keep things at 0 anyway. So it becomes an exposure compensation meter instead, hidden entirely to reduce clutter if the exposure comp is set to 0, and otherwise showing you the value for exposure compensation that you've selected. (This may not be massively important to have on screen if you use the knob for exposure comp, but remember that you can set the knob to C and use a command wheel for it instead.)

>>4364201
Thanks for the experience. I was too stupid to give the compensation enough "room" to actually do something. I figured it out now

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>>4364078
No it ain't!

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>>4364758

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>>4364759

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>>4364760

>>4353443
>battery life: 360 shots
No thanks

>>4357465
>the d810s plastic mount sent up some red flags
QRD? I have a d810 and I twisted it too hard the wrong way just today. Is it kaput?

>>4364768
They always underestimate this figure. I can get over 1000 shots on a single battery with my Z6. Just don't chimp so much and be judicious about turning it off between use periods. And get an extra battery or two.

>>4359426
>>4359533
What's your digi scanning setup?

>>4364758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9MUS_DnZ_k

>>4364890
Its based on screen runtime with mirrorless because CIPA takes 1 shot every 30 seconds, preventing MILC sleep timers from taking effect. DSLRs dont run screens and sensor feeds so the test is biased towards SLRs.

Hascameras get the same battery life out of MILCs and DSLRs with sony unironically being the best
Nocamera gear queers think DSLRs have better battery life

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why do nikon threads cause so much seething?

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>>4369353
Because Sony makes the best cameras and lenses and Nikon can only make a fake toy pancake lens with no features like real weather sealing and needs the hood on at all times which no longer makes it a pancake lens anyway and all it does is buzz and misfocus BZZZZT BZZZZT

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>>4369357
I don't care about pancakes

>>4369364
Yes you do Clive

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>>4353572
z50 is nice no?

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>>4353630
isnt that just a z50???

vk8m

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Can we all agree this was the worst release since the ZFc? It just might bankrupt Nikon it was so bad.

>>4353849
anything over 20MP is unnecessary and worse for low-light also you're gay

>>4357505
>I'll let you know in another 20 years when I get it for 25 bucks.
in 20 years, $25 will be worth $0.25 due to inflation..

hijacking this thread to post a question because no newbie thread. i just got a D5500 and, NEF RAW files are absolutely being saved with clear jpeg artifacts, corroborated by multiple RAW viewers. are my settings terrible somehow? are RAW files seriously being saved as lossy?

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I much prefer my Z7ii. I just don't see the point in having less than 45MP.

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>>4369824
Blurry
What did the AF focus on the nut?
>1/125
You couldn't get a sharp shot with 6 MP much less 45 lmao what a joke

>>4369826
The shutter speed is fine but the focus is off and its very noisy for iso 640 which means deep crop

Doing wildlife when you dont have the glass for wildlife is the same as shooting mft

>>4353443
Ugly. Slow. Gay.

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>>4369826

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>>4369826
>>4369827
>nut

>>4369859
Kek. "Based." Parlance.
You will never be me, however.

Thinking of buying an z6 iii, I do on set Stills work for film and tv, but I always want to shoot portraits and street.

I'm coming from Fuji and Sony, did my research on Nikon and I wanted some opinions from people who have shot with it.

What's the workflow like compared to Sony and Fuji? It took a long time to edit my image to something usable with Sony, but I like some of the Fuji colours with flash, with mixed results during the day. It seemed like you needed to be shooting at the right light to get the colours you wanted.

>>4372227
Buy a Z6II with the internal mod if you don't plan on using its video specs too much, Z6III can only be justified if you shoot much more videos than photos... and pixel shift maybe.
What a dumb move to put shift in the Z6III but not the Z9, no fucking videofag will use that mode anyways.

>>4372228
What's the internal mod? I don't use video.