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>>4367820
Monke

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>>4367820
Clive is so pathetic he's now making fake film threads. We see right through it. Its not a pancake if your camera body is so large. Do you do anything that isnt seething at Sony? Everyone point and laugh at this pathetic seething obsessed sonyhater.

>>4367823
I heard through the grapevine that he recently started working at IHOP because he is obsessed with pancakes. Apparently he got so mad at 4chan that he burnt a large batch of pancakes and almost got fired.

>Negative film is shot 1 or 2 stops overexposed and then PULLED in development so that you build more density in the exposure and develop less such that the fog is limited

Is this valid for both BW and C film?

>>4367827
yes, you can do it with color and black and white film
but you can just expose properly at box speed and it'll be fine
overexpose 1 or 2 stops and then pull is literally the same as treating your film 1 or 2 iso stops slower
which can be either fine or stupid depending on what and how you're shooting
Don't overthink, just shoot at box speed and leave experimentations for later if they make sense to you

>>4367827
No need to worry about it if you are scanning film. It will generally make your film a little finer grained, and a little lower contrast if you like that.

Share your dream film camera if you want.

>>4367820
I hate film so much you wouldn't believe.

>>4367848
Hassy. A relative had one a long while back, and when I saw the pictures that thing took, I fell in love immediately.

>>4367852
there are currently 150 other active threads on /p/, buddy
knock yourself out

>>4367853
An attainable dream camera! :D Any model you would like in specific?

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Go go nophoto rangers!

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>>4367867
Why is your picture so mushy?

>>4367855
Probably a C or a C/M. No frills, and (marginally) less expensive than one of the later models. The changeable focusing screen isn't really a dealmaker, so I'll grab the first one within my budget that isn't a mechanical writeoff.

>>4367827
>>4367829
What if I want to do the opposite? I see r*dditors saying they shoot their portra 400 at 1600, is it really as simple as shooting it like 1600 and asking my lab to push it 2 stops? Surely I'm retarded and missing something

>>4367873
With portra you don't need to ask them to push the film. It has huge upwards latitude. Pushing/pulling film combined with altered development is only important when you want to control contrast(not really important when scanning) or you're doing some crazy bullshit like shooting tmax 100 at 1 iso.

>>4367848
X-700 but with 1/2000 and 1/4000 shutter speeds added

>>4366136
alright based I got the other flash unit I have working, this combined with a tripod means I am ready to poorly photograph some BUGS and FLOWERS

>>4367888
Good luck. Proper macro without focus stacking is an exercise in patience and autism. I wish you the best of luck. Ask questions and I/others may be able to help.

I have been taking a small break from photography, but I have a growing/vining plant in my 8x10 macro set up rn.
I think I'm going to take 3 pictures over the span of a few days as the plant grows and extends out its vines. It will, at the very least be a little creative, and may even look cool if I have the 3 images hung on the wall next to each other. You'll probably see it eventually.

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>>4367892
Just "scanned" some "photos". Was my first roll of film and I developed it myself at home, amazon mystery film. Had been through an airport scanner before being shot too. Probably not the clearest results but I'm fairly happy with how it turned out.

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>>4367898
Haven't a clue in the slightest whether or not I exposed them correctly with the camera I used to scan them or if the colours are what they should be with the negadoctor in darktable, but hey, it's all part of the process right? Anyone got tips for at home scanning with a camera?

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>>4367901
They'd look way shittier if you fucked the exposure.

>>4367908
I just realized they're sort of shit resolution because I edited the .ori files instead of the pixel shift raws. Was supposed to be 50mp, but cropped down a bit because the macro lens / scanning attachment combo I use isn't entirely optimal. Doesn't really matter though cus I could post the high res ones on here anyway.

>>4367919
I didn't mean to imply they looked shitty. I think they look fine. I meant to say that If your exposure was really off they would look bad and be hard to salvage. You would know if you fucked up.

>>4367924
Yeah I guess even if they were wrong I could re-do them. The thing that I dont understand is that I get the impression that I'm losing detail or getting chroma noise in the shadows (once the negative filter has been applied) would that mean I need to underexpose the scans? I feel like I would lose detail doing that. I could also just be totally wrong and I'm not getting any detail loss because of the scanning. No clue tbqhwyf

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>>4367869
This enough for you, lil' buddy?

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>>4367848
Xpan, but it costs 5000 bucks and if it brakes it's a paperweight
so instead I will import Pentax 6x7 from japs on use a panoramic adapter for 35mm film

>>4368022
No. You did not answer my question. Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension?

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>>4368034
Yes no
maybe
ok biby

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>>4367848
A rolleiflex to larp as vivian maier

>>4368039
A real shiesty cunt you are, yeah.

>>4367848
Right now it’s a Nikon F4 with the MB-21 battery pack. Inshallah I shall acquire one as soon as I have the funds.

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>>4367848
it is not currently in my possession but I am hoping of changing that very soon

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>>4367820

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>>4367820
hp5 pushed 5 stops in caffenol

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>>4368100

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>>4368101

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cloth

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>>4368100
How thin are the negs?

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>>4368050
Just taking the piss my man. I kinda stopped taking this hobby seriously years ago. And this is an Indonesian water buffalo husbandry website anyway.

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>>4368138
Fair enough, m8. Just taking the piss yah. That rock in the middle looks like a giant otter btw.

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Reposting these two

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Third one as a bonus

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I'm wondering if I should crop them a bit. How much croping do you guys usually do? how much does it count as cheating?

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>>4368157
the goal is to get a good shot, you're not in a competition, there's no cheating
I almost never crop because I don't like it, but when I occasionally do I keep the original proportions, though

Anyway, posting some shots from the last rolls

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>>4368158
another one from this big boy

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>>4368159
I wish the lights weren't on

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>>4368160
took this photo 2 and a half months ago
got the guy's contact info 'cause he wanted to see how it turned out
he was pretty happy about it
I loved the colours and the outfit, and my plan to make it pop with the flash worked out as intended

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>>4368162
now to the homedeveloped ones

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>>4368158
I have this weird block about doing as much incamera as possible. I feel like a fraud if I edit too much unless the project is specifically about that, that's why I was hesitant to crop my photos.
>>4368162
fun pop but you could've asked him to pose differently. Everything looks fun in your photo besides the subject (outfit and colours are cool tho). Did you tell him how to pose?

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>>4368165
I like the very contrasty combo of pushed double-x and Rodinal, but it needs uniform light to work

>>4368167
thanks
well I told him I liked his outfit and asked him if I could take a photo
he was a very outgoing guy and said "what if you shoot me like I'm waiting for the bus?" and we went with it
I like the contrast between his very chic style and the mundane setting of waiting for the bus

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>>4368170
lots of contrast, not much dynamic range
so it's something to have in mind

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>>4368109
pretty thin but some frames came out alright

>>4368170
hmm I see. He's not a very good actor then haha.
Anyways, liking your dump.
Valeu irmao tamo juntos

>>4368174
nice big boy, Mexico anon
also what film and process?
and what camera/lens, just out of curiosity?
it has the same look as the photos I posted above
I used kodak double-x pushed to 800 and Rodinal with a Rollei 35
>>4368182
suddenly caralho
kkkk massa, que bom que curtiu

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>>4368183
I wanted to take a photo inside but they were only letting childs inside lel

Orwo UN54 at box speed on Rodinal, using an Helios 103.

So kind of makes sense, both are cinema film so similar look I guess.

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>>4368187
>give camera to kid
>ei niño, I'll give you 5 pesos if you get inside and press this little button
I like how the whites are this immaculate white, and the blacks are absolute blacks
btw in this photo of yours it seems like the black point is set a bit weirdly and it's a washed gray
>>4368198
what an interesting place
nice photo

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>>4368108
I wouldn't have posted this picture when I realised it was out of focus.
>>4368022
is this half frame?
>>4368070
These are really nice to use, and that kit 55mm is very sharp too. The ST705W is also good if you can only find the 801 for drug money

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>>4368207
>what an interesting place
>nice photo
thanks. it's from this cemetery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skogskyrkog%C3%A5rden

>>4368160
i like this

>>4368162
what film stock is this

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>>4368298
thanks, man
stood out there for some 5min with a tripod and a giant ass RB67 waiting for runners to stop getting into my shot for 8 full seconds
>>4368299
it's Ektar

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>>4368209
>is this half frame?
Konica VX200 expired in 1998. It actually looks much better than I thought it would. I shot some C41 Agfa film that expired in 2000 and it looked like absolute trash.

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Foma's given me such weird results

>one time it works perfect
>next time it looks underexposed by like 4 stops
>next time (this time) the lab's machine scratched it to shit

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>>4368339
looks kinda dope tho

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Is this news to anyone else?

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>>4368660
What
I guess this is for... orthochromatic sheet film right?

>>4368664
Ortho can already be developed under safelight, no?

>>4368664
Apparently it works on pan film!

has anyone shot foma retropan or washi F x ray film before? any tips? i always (purposefully) overexpose my photos a lot so this shouldnt be a problem, as ive heard retropan is more like 200 speed

>>4367854
No, I don't think I will. Film is dead. It needs to be reminded.

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>>4368393
thx
I need to shoot more scenes with people. Been snapshitting random buildings and trees for too long

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>>4368339
luv foamer

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Sometimes I shoot Ektar

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hey bros any recommendations for a rangefinder camera with interchangeable lenses that's not a Leica, voit, or bessa (unless they're cheap)

>>4368967
Minolta CLE

Going to Japan in a few weeks, is there still a good second hand shop for film cameras? Or everything good is gone and I would have better luck ordering from ebay

>>4367901
> Anyone got tips for at home scanning
Buy a color chart, shoot one frame in daylight and one frame in artificial per roll (just once per each stock is good enough for start).
Doesn't need to be something fancy and expensive, just something you can have at hand and compare side by side with your scan.
>with a camera?
Don't.

>>4368100
>>4368101
>>4368102
Neat, would love to see them scanned with not a potato.
Why are your thumbnails sideways kek

>>4369234
Which scanner would you recommend?

>>4369234
>Don't.
Not him but why are you against scanning with a camera?

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>>4368802
>retropan
Yeah, it's pretty nice for a Foma. This is at 250 speed and 1 hour stand in 1+100 rodinal.
I also had good results shooting at 200 and developing in HC-110 B for 8.5 minutes. More contrasty though (unsurprisingly), and being Foma the negs are always pretty thin no matter what you do.
I have the Retropan developer kit but haven't used it yet, waiting for my Yashica to come back from CLA.

>>4369247
here we go again

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>>4368802
>>4369248
And here's the ISO 200 / HC-110 B 8.5 min frame

>>4369251
aahhhh it burns!!

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Bought this A-1 untested for 65 bucks and happy to say, it works! Just needed a pin in the battery compartment and to scrape off the sulfate.

Looks really nice. Came with a tote and a canon 199A flash. Sync cable (so I am definitely using this in studio) and the 50/1.8 FD

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>>4369274
For 15 bucks more also got this Petri 28, leather case is rotten out, film door won't open and the focus ring won't twist, any ideas on what to do? Thinking on getting it onto a repair shop. But this thing is so worthless idk if whatever labour the guy will want to charge is gonna be worth it.

I like that it looks like a Leica if you squint your eyes, that and the leaf shutter!

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>>4368957
It's possible to force the disgusting cyan out of ektar by being a massive slut in the channel mixer when converting your raw scans.

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>>4369282
Why is fgt so much better than the mft general?

>>4369282
Bro you just made the sky (and everything else along with it) a diffent shade of green.
Admittedly it's a pretty cool tone (figuratively and literally), but it's clearly stylized and has limited usefulnes outside of certain subjects.
The Jesus Saves shot, while looking worse overall, looks much more naturally balanced, even with the cyan sky.

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>>4369282
compair the pare

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>>4369292
>>4368957
damn that's a lot of cyan, why do people like ektar?

>>4369291
the point was being made in two parts, sorry for confusion
>>4369284
you like this photo?
this one is straight to the bin, I only shared because it has sky in it

>>4369296
No I just used your post to post my own post and forgot to delete your post reply. Enjoy the you, bud.

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>>4369293
>why do people like ektar
because there's no other new, sharp, neg film available.
>and the pink works ok for portraits
we live in the end times.
My freezer stock of Superia 100 is down to less than half :'(

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>>4369303
How come some people develop Portra 400 to look exactly like this?

>>4369277
>>>4369274 #
>For 15 bucks more also got this Petri 28, >leather case is rotten out
>film door won't open
>and the focus ring won't twist
>any ideas on what to do?
yes, paint it green and throw it in the bushes lmao

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>>4369248
>>4369251
Interesting thanks. I want to try get a ton of halations on it, so I may try over exposing it a ton. I'm still clueless as to whether pushing film helps in that regards or not.

Someone who has zero knowledge about photography asked me how I knew the picture I was taking would turn out how I wanted all the way through to a print.

It was a fun challenge that tested my technical knowledge. She just stared at me blankly as I handwaved and attempted to explain film photography in 30 seconds.

>go to a park this evening
>has some good views of the city and also some interesting architecture
>taking pics, have my whole tripod and cable setup
>security guys walk up
>they tell me they're supposed to tell people not to take pictures of the buildings because reasons
>eh whatever, not trying to make a fuss
>one of them starts talking to me about how he used to do night photography, explains some techniques
>"you gotta get some black cardboard, then you can release the shutter with the lens still covered, and once the vibration has settled you can move the cardboard to expose the image and just release the shutter when its done"
>actually a pretty clever trick to get an extra bit of sharpness at night
>tells me I should go to a different park that has a view of the freeway, and that's where I can really learn night photography
>tells me I shouldn't bother with using higher speed films for night shots, and stick to 100 or 200 at the most no matter what
>as he's walking away apologizes for going on about stuff, but he just "fell in love with night photography a long time ago..."
thank you boomer security guard for your advice, I hope one day when I'm old I can share cool tricks with people

>>4369342
I can't tell if I would like this with more or less bokeh.
right now it's not good

>>4369388
Did he tell you about reciprocity failure?
t. not quite a boomer

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Rodinal kings, should I try using high concentration rodinal as a replacement for amidol to attempt a water-bath process? Amidol and rodinal are both compensating developers, so it should work...

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>>4369411
I ain't reading all that nigga

>>4369413
-_- you must not be a rodinal king.


Desensitize film
Saturate film in rodinal
Place in water
Watch film developing
If it doesn't develop enough repeat process

Produces excellent separation between shadows, mids, and highlights because that's how compensating developers work.

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>>4369343
I wouldn't say halation is one of Retropan's characteristics. It does have some of this "dreamy" softness that they advertise, but it's more like a subtle soft filter all over, rather than halation from highlights.
The two stocks that do this the most for me are Polypan F (pic related) and Kodak Academy 200, but both have been dead for 10+ years, and only came in 35mm and not 120.

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>>4369343
Also interesting review I just found, haven't tried this method before, it sounds very counterintuitive but I'm tempted.

>>4367820
Canon F1n or New F1? Wanting to upgrade but I don't know which to get. I like that the F1n is fully mechanical and I like the finder options on it better, but I like the look of the new F1 more, and I suppose from an objective standpoint it probably is better. What do we think bros?

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>Buy a leica they said, they're super reliable they said
fuck you /p/. the autofocus fucking sucks too

>>4369443
>using autofocus
>on a Leica no less
lol
lmao even
I never heard anyone say they are reliable.
In fact, I went to a camera shop the other day and what do I find? Some guy wanting to get his broken Leica repaired. They asked for $500 to fix its sticky shutter. I think there were other things wrong with it too. In contrast, all the used 35mm cameras I got off ebay work flawlessly.

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>>4369443
Conversely, I've never heard anyone claim that an A series canon is reliably and yet I own a heap of them and I've never had any issues other than perished light seals.

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>>4369443
Well, did you buy it brand new or get it second hand? If new: lmao. If used: should have just bought a real camera. Like buying a used merc and being surprised it was treated like shit and needs a rebuild

>>4369394
Thanks.

I'm new to 35mm from a long time in digital and I'm going to ask a retarded question because I have no frame of reference - what should my expectation be for sharpness on 35mm if it's exposed, focused, developed and scanned properly? If I scan 200 or 400 speed film on my digital camera, and look in Photoshop, 100% zoom starts to break down but 50% zoom looks decently sharp - is that about the ballpark of 35mm negatives or is that a sign that I have something in my workflow I'm not doing properly?

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>>4369470
Depends on the film, the lens, and other factors. For example pic rel was taken on Gold 200 with an old Tamron 300mm telephoto and so is soft as shit.

>>4369470
Use common print sizes as your reference for viewing your image. Like 8x10 and 11x14 to get a realistic look at your image as if it was a 40 inch print.

Unless you are working at optimizing your image quality, or printing giant prints there is no real point to picklepeep your scan.

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>>4369474
Contrariwise, this one was taken on CS 400D with a much nicer 50mm prime and it's a lot sharper.

However as
>>4369475
says pixel peeping is retarded and gay.

>>4369474
>>4369476
>>4369475
Thanks - gives me a reference which I was absent. For what it's worth I'm looking at HP5 in Rodinal.

>>4369470
If you are using normal person grainy film, compare to the same photo shot on a nikon d700.

If you are using great professional film like portra 160, ektar 100, or e100 ektachrome, compare to the same photo shot on a nikon d750.

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>>4369477
This one was HP5+ in XTOL, but it's still gonna be a bit soft because I'm shooting with the 300mm Tamron.

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>>4369503
And a similar scene at the same race, same lens and developer, on Kodak Tri-X 400. I'm a big fan of the Tri-X and XTOL 1+1 combo.

>>4369476
Pixel peeping is for digital because sometimes computer screens, especially low res windows shitboxes and 10 year old non-retina macs, hide flaws that will show up in prints like moire, or generate entirely new ones depending on the preview algorithm.

If you don't have a bayer array you don't need to pixel peep. And on film if you're not shooting pro stock or larger formats, you're not able to crop for free zoom (without carrying bazookas or lens bags) anyways, because it looks like shit.

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>>4369477
HP5 stock with yellow filter
developed with HC110
from Rodinal expect little bit more contrast and grain, and it would be best if you shoot it at native speed or even pull it if you have enough light
Rodinal is not good for pushing

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>>4369477
>>4369517
and here is Foma400 shot at 320 which is already very grainy, developed in Rodinal

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>>4369517
I didn't used to like HP5 until I slapped a yellow filter on it. Love the look now.

>>4369517
>Rodinal is not good for pushing
It is, you just gotta know what to expect from it

>>4369517
>Rodinal is not good for pushing
correct, it's the best for pushing

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>>4367820
I’m about to run out of my cheap consumer film and am looking to finally get my hands on some higher quality, more expensive stuff. Between Ektachrome, Ektar, or Portra, which do you guys prefer? I love the look of slide film but hear nothing but praise for Ektar and Portra.

>>4369555
Ektar has more saturated colors and makes great landscape photos, it leaves skin with a red shade tho
Portra is less saturated and gives pastel colors but makes portraits look good, hence Portra

both are really fine grained

Pro Image 100 is kinda like the two combined but with a bigger grain, but also really cheap and no one seems to know about it

>>4369503
>>4369504
>>4369517
>>4369519
>>4369519
Thanks anon, much obliged

>>4369555
Ektachrome
nothing beats slide, it's not even comparable
but between color films, both ektar and portra will be good
portra is expensive and not much different from gold
gold obviously has those warm tones, but you can change it by sliding one single bar when editing
portra is more desaturated which can be achieved with gold in the same manner
portra's grains are smaller, though, but there's not much difference despite what faggots say
anyway, slide is better than anything else, and use ektar for landscapes or anything with pungent primary colours, and portra for people
also ektar is beautiful for black people's skin
p.s.: don't glorify film, it's just a support for your photography
focus on making good photos
it's like buying a smooth pen to write
it sure is better, but your text being shit or good is on you

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don't mind me, still posting pictures of gear instead of actual pictures

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>>4369555
Vison 3 don't be a sucker

>>4369607
Based.

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>>4369607

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>>4369610
My bad didn't mean to link

>>4369610
Beautiful colors and shadows

What are some good cameras with an M42 mount?
Currently I am contemplating on getting either an ST801 (or previous model) or a Bessaflex.

>>4369680
Pentax Spotmatic definitely, and it's fully mechanical
I bought it recently for that purpose of using cool cheap lens like Carl Zeiss Jena or Helios
will report when I will get it

>>4369680
They're all fine. Even Sears, Vivitar, rushit etc.
ST801 is not exactly m42 though, it has a weird extra lock pin and some kind of meter coupling.

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back from the repair shop
got the curtains changed and the FM2 is like new again
i'm never using the motordrive again tho

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>>4369236
i don't know its something about my scanner sometimes they end up sideways or upside down i have no idea how to fix it

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>>4369340
Turns out it all works, viewfinder looks like shit but it's manageable, just finished a roll on the canon

>>4369800
the Canon is good, I was talking about the Petri

>>4369800
just get the ground glass cleaned or replaced, shouldn't be too expensive
maybe you can even do it yourself
I fucking hate dirt in my viewfinder
all my SLRs are super clean and neat, all 2 of them

>>4369768
What happened? I have a FM2 with those shutters and I was wondering the the motor drive was worth it

>>4369250
>Person asks for help
>Gets vague and unhelpful reply in return.

Never cha- actually do change /pee/.

>>4369443

Same problem for me but with the contax g2. Supposedly the goat film camera.
Tiny shit view finder, unreliable auto focus, and eventually shutter broke and costs so much to fix I just gave up on it.
Literally one of the worst film cameras I’ve used.

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Really kinda digging CS50D

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>>4369667
Thanks!

Any film related book reccomendations frens?

>>4369938
Luck issue

Fighting the urge to buy a digital point and shoot for daily use my fellow fags, shooting film is fast but sending off for processing is slowwww

>>4369987
I love my Canon G12
Has gotten expensive for some reason, maybe someone on tiktok hyped it up

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of fomapan im a fomafan hehe

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le flash coverage test

>>4369987
here are some compacts i've used
>nikon a - great form factor for apsc, good iq, decent ergos, dreadful shutter lag precludes quick street/event shooting
>canon s95 - feels flimsy, truly pocketable, kinda slow operation but cheap enough you can treat it as almost disposable. couldn't really tell it was ccd vs cmos but you know from rpt that it can certainly deliver on iq
>nikon p330 - weak, squeaky build, pictures looked pretty decent. didn't test thoroughly because i got a broken copy. same form factor as s95
>fuji xq1 - solid build, snappy operation, solid jpegs, suffers the fuji tax. also same sizes as s95
>pentax optio s4 - early gen point and shoot with all of the drawbacks. widest on the zoom is 35mm equivalent, charmingly coarse iq, ovf is microscopic but nice to have in some situations. absolutely tiny body you can take anywhere, low capacity battery, terrible ui

i certainly recommend a small simple digital camera to complement film gear. if nothing else, it makes a fine light meter

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When you are developing film, does the way that you wind it on the reel make a difference during development (winding with the curl vs winding against)? I'm going to assume that it doesn't since it doesn't change that the entire film is submerged in chemicals, but it is just easier and safer to do it with the curl.

>>4370142
I've always just done it with the curl because it's easier. I did once try winding a roll of 120 against the curl, and didn't notice any difference in development. It was a pain in the ass though so I haven't done it since.

>>4370142
Wind with the curl. Winding against the curl is retarded:
>the emulsion side will be pushing against the groove wall
>if there's as much as a speck of moisture on the reel, it will make the film stuck
>the film edge will get uneven development in places, this looks like shit and can throw some scanners off when pulling film in
>when taking the film out of the reel the emulsion is more likely to get damaged
Literally not a single reason for doing it.

>>4368309
You the brazilian dude? What flash do you use on that RB, glad to see you're still here

>>4369923
the motordrive doesn't care if something's not perfectly aligned or lubricated, if something gets in the way it will force it
if you're advancing by hand you can feel if something's not moving as expected, with the motordrive it will just go regardless, which is how my curtains got completely fucked

>>4370152
yep, Brazilian anon here
>glad to see you're still here
thanks, anon, that's good to hear (:
I'm using a Nikon SB-22 Speedlight
I wanted to make the guy pop out and get the background as dark as possible, so I shot it at 1/400" or 1/250"

>go to 4 pawn shops
>not one single SR or OM mount lens
fug

>>4370258
waste of film

>>4368997
lol

>>4370142
>winding with the curl
>>4370143
>>4370148
Another thing worth noting is that bending the film too far against its "set" it's possible to crease the film, which gives you those little white crescents on your negs, and also you can crack the emulsion if the film is really cooked which gives you tiny hairline cracks showing up in the dev.
Just don't fight it.

The one annoying thing about shooting 620 color or slides is having to rewind them back onto 120 spools because cunts at the lab would not return your 620 ones.
I wish I would only have to do it once per roll like the b&w ones I develop myself, but color 6x9s, especially slides, are better then sex.
>in b4 develop yourself
Nah, I tried C41 before, too much hassle, to unpredictable results, not enough volume to justify. E6 I imagine is even more picky.

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I broke my Sekonic lightmeter, the 308 one this year.
I hate to use my phone to meter the light...
So i found 2 options online 2nd hand
>Minolta Auto Meter III 60€
>Seconic L308s 150€
Does anyone have experience with the Minolta one ??

>>4370358
I have the Minolta auto meter iv and for daytime ambient use on medium format and 35mm I'm pretty happy with it. Obviously it doesn't have spot functionality, and the f numbers don't go high enough to be very useful with my 4x5. For the most part I find myself using my phone because I do a lot of night work and the built-in reciprocity failure compensation that the app I'm using has has really spoiled me.

>>4370372
>built-in reciprocity failure compensation
what app

>>4370372
If you have a view camera you may want to consider investing in a spot meter.

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>>4370404
It's just called "Lightmeter"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vodemn.lightmeter
I've tried quite a few of them and I like this one the best. You have to buy the full version to get the reciprocity failure calculator, but it's worth it.

>>4370405
It's on the list. For now the app has a spot metering mode that does okay-ish.

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>>4370410
>You have to buy the full version to get the reciprocity failure calculator, but it's worth it.
Does it have reciprocity data per film stock, or just one general formula? Because they can get wildly from stock to stock, so if it's the latter then it's kind of bullshit

>>4370259
you don't waste any that's for sure

>>4370451
Prove it.

>>4370372
Thx bro will consider the minolta one !
I have a minolta spotmeter but god knows iam too retarded to understand it lol
Luckily i don't shoot LF though.

>>4370422
By film stock. You select the film you're using, select what iso you're shooting at, and it does the rest automatically.

>>4370492
Which spot meter do you have? The F?

>>4370529
I have the F yes with the flash metering option.
They're built nicely imo.
Iam just to autistic to learn this shit.
>spot meter a neutral area that is perfectly midtone
>well let's give it a +1 or 2+ stop down
>fuck it it's too confusing
I should take out my digi camera and the spotmeter and do some guessing games until i get it

>>4370533
Noooooo. You spot meter the darkest area you still want information then decrease exposure by 2 stops. You should also look at mids and highlights to get a feel for your scenes contrast and adjust if necessary.

>>4370533
>>4370590
just meter for the subject, specifically the midtones of the subject, why do you gotta make stuff way more complicated than they should be?

>>4370358
>>4370533
>>4370590
>>4370595
just f8 and be there, why are you so autistic

>>4370597
>>4370595
Just use an incident meter if you're going to be a lazy asshole.
You expose film for the shadows and develop for the highlights.

>>4370600
>metering
I have eyes, so sunny 16.

>>4370600
>You expose film for the shadows and develop for the highlights
you're just parroting stuff at this point
that's not being lazy, that is metering correctly so that your subject aka the important thing you're shooting is properly exposed, fucking moron

>>4370610
You sound remarkably stupid, and I am almost certain that you have only ever scanned film.

Film needs enough light(exposure) or else you get nothing.

If your negative is too dense(over developed highlights) you also get nothing useable.

If your negative is too contrasty you usually get a shit result, which is why you take reading at shadows, mids and highlights, so you can understand what your contrast range and possibly do push/pull development. Please learn a little more next time. A good portrait will not be completely flat, but have a full range of tones from pure black to white, you dunning krueger ass neophyte.

>>4370628
autism.

For a portrait its simple.

f 1.8
shutter speed 1000

wala

>>4370649
Sounds like digital may be more up your alley. :)

>>4370628
orrrrr
you just meter for subject midtones because you know it'll be properly exposed then and you'd probably end up with the same exposure settings anyways