Prev: >>533383220Day: 11 of the 14-day ceasefire™ periodDay: 49 of the 1 day Special Military Operation to Decapitate Iran™Trump War Tantrum / Cope Counter: 30+ https://litter.catbox.moe/f0hmqh.txt▶RECENT:>NOTHING CHANGED. STRAIT IS CLOSED.>FRIDAY TruthSocial PUMPnDUMP. Contradictions GALORE.>Trumps statements are not confirmed by the opposing parties, both Israelis and Iranians.>A new round of US–Iran talks is expected to take place in Islamabad, Pakistan, on Monday, APR 20th, according to CNN, citing Iranian officials.>Israelis are not happy about the rumors of peace and started complaining again.>Intense Israeli artillery shelling of Khiam, Debbine and southeast Lebanon, less than 30 minutes into the ceasefire.>Lebanon ceasefire went into effect, APR 16th 21:00 UTC.>US & Iran ceasefire is set to expire on April 22.▶WARNING:>Do not trust any "happenings" without link/proof>Uкraine / Яussia discussions belong in uнg or cнug▶Thread Theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgxRfGCPV6g▶Oil:>https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/▶Kino:https://files.catbox.moe/dqr3fl.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/jg9rat.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/fx86zj.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/cbd7ug.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/2hwzcx.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/smmsfw.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/x0fbgv.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/20lpu8.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/86yxn2.mp4▶Live-streams:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-iFtUM2kkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdcrT5OcS9chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53G-Oy4r6M4▶Hormuz Strait Traffic:https://hormuztracking.com/▶Telegram Channelshttps://rentry.org/tgnews▶Israel Rocket Alertshttps://www.tzevaadom.co.il/en/▶Air Traffichttps://www.flightradar24.com/https://flightaware.com/livehttps://globe.adsbexchange.com/▶Maritime Traffichttps://www.marinetraffic.com/https://www.vesselfinder.com/
>RED LINES AFTER RED LINES
How may hours til explosions
>>533384074What is that supposed to accomplish? They would be under missile and drone fire from the mountains 24/7. Cannot move back because there's the sea. Cannot advance, because the mountains make cutting off your troops from supplies trivial. Imagine having to do logistics runs in a terrain where the enemy has the higher ground everywhere and can ambush you from everywhere.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO2YQ6hcg_E [Embed]
German media says that someone shot at the vessels in the strait. Nothingburger?
>>533386175Ceasefire ends on April 22nd (Tehran time), Iran has no plans to extend it.
trumps boasting is shutting down any possible deal as it humiliates the more pragmatist in iranafter pezeshkian now aragachi is being hurt by trumps boasting and lying
>>533386316because they want a peace deal by then, not because they want war
HAPPENINGhebrewIran: The Supreme National Security Council told the state media that Iran is determined to control movement through the Strait of Hormuz until "the war ends definitively and a stable peace is achieved in the region." This is another change in the Iranian messaging - the Iranian military previously stated that the Strait of Hormuz would open once the American blockade is lifted..
>>533386175all the other diplomatic red lines before were serious. Midnight Hammer happened the night the deadline passed. same with other moments. so my guess is when the ceasefire ends the bombing is gonna begin again.
>>533386249Who knows what going on in the heads of the top brass at Pentagon?They're the ones who came up with the brilliant enriched uranium extraction operation disguised as pilot rescue.
>>533386412midnight hammer destroyed irans nuclear already, it is done time to go home
>>533386307Two ships were attacked and turned away by IRGC gunboats today.
>Islam a badBravo Kojima
The strait has always been open, goy. The strait has always been closed, goy.
>>533386249not to mention that chabahar does nothing for the control of the Strait of Hormuz and Iran can send thousands of SRBMs at whatever location in Chabahar it wants to. Not to mention the thousands of enraged fathers and brothers from Minab who will head there just to kill the invaders. You'd very likely get a proper jihad call too. Shia from Pakistan will pour across the border.
>>533386461It’s a shame the IRGC didn’t send those jeet ships and their cow dung cargo straight to davy jones locker
the US is positioning for another shock and awe attack on diego garcia
Pilot status?
>>533386432>top brass at Pentagon?>They're the ones who came up with the brilliant enriched uranium extraction operation??pentagon is administration. operational planning is the duty of combatant commands like centcom.
>>533386378iran's foreign ministry is begging for war, fucking masochist retards, if fighting starts again they're gonna get blown up by a rain of bombs cowering in bunkers not shooting it out in "glorious" gunfights
>>533386532>surely THIS time the decapitation strike will do the trick
I've been banned from a second "geopolitics" Telegram for saying Chinks killing Muslims is just as good as kikes killing Muslims.
>>533386457my point is the timing of the strikes. expect on ceasefire end for fighting to begin. that's been the trend so far.
>>533386325If not for aragchi they would have just died faster. Its true ceasefire its just re stocking for US but its also true they want to deal with iran without making them another hentai country
#BREAKING President Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Saturday that Iran "got a little cute…they wanted to close up the strait again...they can’t blackmail us”Trump said the U.S. is still talking to Iran and noted he will know by the end of the day if the parties are going to move forward to a deal
>>533386325What’s the IRGC saying about Araghchi? Admittedly it was pretty sus of him to announce the strait being “completely open” on a Friday as Trump was desperately trying to push oil lower. That tweet of his singlehandedly sent paper oil back down to $80.
>>533386325this Mossad-linked Persian diasporoid living in France is high on his own supply and has started to literally wishcast stuff, picrel. https://x.com/BabakTaghvaee1/status/2045171760551641381
>>533386479It makes sense in the context that they want to secure a staging area for a large scale ground invasion.How they would get to that stage of the escalation, I have no idea.
>>533386563You are out of JASSMs
>timezoneswtf chinkmoot how does this even happen lmao
>>533386653> I’m hearing from U.S. government sources close to the Trump administration that they are very pleased with Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and believe he can be their preferred leader within the Islamic regime of Iran. He is cooperating and collaborating closely. He has not only opened the Strait of Hormuz, but is also expected to hand over the regime’s shipment of 60% enriched uranium to the United States. He is loyal to the U.S. government—they support him.>The 82nd Airborne Division of the US Army will go to Iran to retrieve the shipment.https://x.com/BabakTaghvaee1/status/2045191190576877595
Not sure if this is one of the two tankers previously reported as fired on or a third incident.
>>533386563its probably because its less humiliating to die for them. They have lost too much and have nothing to show for it. No clear future plan looks promising for iran either
>>533386633iran closed the strait because they US got cute with them and continued her blockade
I want progress, violence, anything real, not just more empty campaign slogans and ai slop
>An Iranian Member of Parliament named Morteza Mahmoudi said that Iran's Foreign Minister, Araghchi, should now be in the process of impeachment following his tweet about the opening of Hormuz, if it were not for considerations of a war situation, and accused him of untimely statements with the administration, which repeatedly calm the global oil and energy markets and work in favor of Trump.Lmfao Piglets favorite fag is about to be killed by his own people lmfao
>>533386704>collaborating closely. this guy hates ghalibaf and wants to steer infighting lol
i just want the blockade to continue as long as possible so the world suffers
>>533386633>trump said he will know by the end of the day if the parties are going to move forward to a dealso the bombing's gonna start about 18 hours from now. guess it's time to go to the store and buy groceries for a couple weeks.
>>533386120>NOTHING CHANGED. STRAIT IS CLOSED.Fake news, didn't you see the dow jones yesterday?
Would be a humilation ritual for Iran desu. I don't see how they would agree to it. I wonder if the US would let them watch from the cuckstoel
>>533386760You vill watch the Lego slop
>>533386704>writes for israel>avatar literally glows
>>533386771>this guy hates ghalibaf and wants to steer infighting lolright? primo seethe on his account https://x.com/BabakTaghvaee1/status/2045231089187430618
>>533386704Jews wrote this trying to get Ghalibaf killed >He is loyal to the U.S governmentSaid no one ever if they were actually trying to negotiate with someone from a foreign government.
>>533386704I love military science fiction.
>>533386818seems to be independent corroborated though>>533386763
So what is everyone's prediction on what will happen in the following weeks, months, years? You think we will see boots on the ground and economic uncertainty?
>>533386822>will be allowed to watchYess de cuckstoel is nog vrji
>>533386532Diego Garcia is not even on that map, that looks like the flight MH 370 lol
Owning a nuke should be as inviolable a right as issuing your own currency or passports.If you don't have a nuke you're a vassal of the nearest allied power who does.
>>533386563>3500 Iranians have died fighting the US and Israeli's. >70,000 unarmed Palestinians died in Gaza. Would you fight on your feet or die on your knees?
is the strait open or closed. i am so confused rn
>>533386715>They have lost too much and have nothing to show for it. No clear future plan looks promising for iran eitherIran keeps UraniumIran can keep enrichingIran can keep and extend its missile rangeIran can continue to keep supporting Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis.Iranian regime not changedIran now has de facto control of the SoH & BeMIn addition,Immeasurable, massive losses for the USA:Iran proving that the US armed forces are not irresistable,Iran proving that the F-35 is neither invisible nor unhittable,Iran proving that carrier strike groups are close to uselessThe value of these losses is incaluably high.
>>533386896unless the fucking strait is opened soon many countries will start rioting since everything will be much more expensive.you can take that to the bank for starters.
>>533386653I genuinely can't tell if this is pro-Iran shitposting
>>533386851the strait allowing traffic was literally part of the ceasefire dealit was supposed to go through but trump wouldn't remove the blockade
>>533386926without nuclear weapons you are not even a country, everything you have will be taken from you
>>533386990>I genuinely can't tell if this is pro-Iran shitpostingProzac more than pro-Iran
>>533387005>the strait allowing traffic was literally part of the ceasefire dealiran agreed to a limited traffic on their terms not fully opening itthat would cancel the entire leverage they got over the US why they even sit at the tablepure bad faith
>>533386971Even in Turkey? I thought your economy started to finally stabilize though? Or maybe I'm thinking of another country
>>533386896This won’t carry on for years, China not gonna let it happen.
>>533387021b-but Iran is a Islamonazi-fascict regime. They would noooook the US or Israel immediately
>>533386897Dutch person with German flag>exposed
>>533386653>>533386704stop posting that retard. he's never been right. he's just making stuff up.
>>533387100How new are you?
>>533387096we now know that they are rational actors who are judicious and prudent
>>533387063>iran agreed to a limited traffic on their terms not fully opening it...in exchange for the US removing their blockade, something that did not happen at any point
>>533386667There is no realistic way. Martyrdom is an overwhelmingly powerful weapon. During the "pilot rescue" operation a few days ago, Delta Force and SEAL team six were defeated by civil defense paramilitaries and armed civilians. Anyone with access to a fiream, civilian or not, attacks the invaders. Everywhere. It's a civic duty and the highest honor.Trump has 10000 or so men in the region. What can they do? He needs millions to win that war. And he would lose a good part of them.
>>533387147hagelslaag von dir juit kanker mof
>British Navy: We received a report of an incident 3 miles east of Amman. The captain of a tourist ship reported seeing a spray of water near the vessel.>british Army: A cargo ship was attacked near the Strait of Hormuz, resulting in damage to the containers on board.iran does give a fuck
>>533387140>asking Indian to stop posting slopYou might as well do an emperor Caligula and command the sea to obey you.
>>533386475Kek
>>533387147oh lol, I'm unaware. Only recognized dutch. Not new but a huge gap between 2014 - 2025
>>533387168did iran take down black birds with mosins or whatever WWI hunting rifles their shepards got?
>>533386956Iranians closed the straight and Trump wanted it openSo then Trump closed the strait because Iranians closed the straitThen Iranians opened the straitBut Trump kept the strait closed So then Iranians closed the strait because Trump closed the strait
>>533387168>He needs millions to win that war. And he would lose a good part of them.Which is why I believe there is some likelyhood that jews will execute some kind of false flag attack on the US, larger in scale than 9/11.
>>533387241It’s so retarded bro
>>533386956Trump lies about diplomacy right before the weekend to keep stocks up.
>>533386120This SHIT will turn into another FOREVER WAR
>>533387298it is what happened
>>533387067our economy is in shambles for a good decade at this point.we had a very small bump in our oil prices, granted oil was already expensive here. we have the most expensive gas in the world, or close to it.there was a great graph a japanese anon shared, and it displays all the price increases listed by country.The SEA region is suffering the worst at this point. we were in the good end of that graph image in terms of gas prices.
>>533387063>you need to allow everyone's ships except your own. this is how you acquire leverage in naval matters
>>533387321Forever special military operation
>>533386896i think iran will be balkanized by its neighbors if iran *fully* shoots its neighbors, as they say they plan to do if america *fully* strikes their "power and bridges". sothe ceasefire endsamerica strikes a few specific power and bridges as essentially warning shotsiran refuses to eat reputational damage so it fires at its neighbors' infrastructure somewhatamerica retaliates once but is again limitediran also retaliates in a limited waythen outside powers like china, russia, europe, etc step in to break the two upand we avoid full worldwide collapse with higher prices for awhilemy guess is it'll all be over in about a month from now
>>533386653he's making up his own interpretation and his information hygiene is literally zeroyet, tasnim news really did publish criticism of araghchi's statement.https://x.com/Tasnimnews_Fa/status/2045161504220078143I find it kind of interesting
>>533387294they wouldn't be allowed to get away with it, the reality and climate are completely different from what they were in the early 2000's
WTI oil is recovering.>https://x.com/DonMiami3/status/2045502881617567831
>>533387342so, you guys are in full on russia/best korea mode, right? erdogan is president for life, essentially?
>>533387230It's a meme>>533386636Maybe someone told him the blockade will be lifted?
>>533386793>so the bombing's gonna start about 18 hours from now. guess it's time to go to the store and buy groceries for a couple weeks.You should have a stockpile of survival type food for longer than 2 weeks bro.Flour, rice, beans, etc.You don't want to be standing in the soup lines because a loaf of bread is 19.99.
>>533387374UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait cannot do shit to Iran.i dont know how can you type anything that ignorant.they are symbolic vassal states. nothing more.
>>533386897de koekstoel is reserved for Trump
>>533386938what are they gonna do about standoff precision strikes mr anon? so far america has lost a couple jets, it has thousands of them and many more precision strike munitions
Statement of the Secretariat of the Supreme National Security Council TL;DR- Iran claims victory in battle and says the U.S. sought ceasefire talks. - Negotiations in Islamabad stalled due to U.S. demands beyond Iran’s ten-point plan. - New proposals from the U.S. are under review, mediated by Pakistan. - Iran insists on no concessions and vows to defend its positions. - Conditional ceasefire includes Lebanon; if respected, Iran will temporarily open the Strait of Hormuz for commercial ships only, under its control. - Iran will supervise all shipping, charge fees, and block any enemy interference. - Citizens are urged to remain mobilized and vigilant to secure both military and diplomatic gains.
Gayest war of all time
>>533386763araghchi is not even close to /pig/'s favorite
>>533387356The don tzu memes are so boomer coded but I always get a chuckle out of them
>>533387478we are back to zero>The Islamic Republic announces the imposition of fees on commercial tankers passing through the Strait of Hormuz, in exchange for security, safety, and environmental protection services along the designated routes.
>>533387504They have potential, I wish they got more attention and effort
>>533387480the US navy is fighting it, they are proud of it
>>533387374>the ceasefire ends>america strikes a few specific power and bridges as essentially warning shots>iran refuses to eat reputational damage so it fires at its neighbors' infrastructure somewhatwhy would it not fire at Israel? I love how PTGgers ignore Iran striking Israel as a possibility. If the "warning shots" came from aircraft that took off fro KSA, guess what, KSA is a party to the conflict and doesn't get to do that without any consequences. also, amazing that the US striking Iran isn't to "avoid reputational damage" kek
>>533386763>which repeatedly calm the global oil and energy markets and work in favor of TrumpIt's not really that big of a deal. It just makes the future shitfest worse for the orange retard
>>533387455i'm saying balkanization isn't going to happen if you continue reading my post.but on the topic, balkanization wouldn't just come from the countries you've listed, it'd include america, russia, china, europe, basically everyone would want a piece of the oil prize. and they'd do some real nasty shit to get a piece.
>>533387585trump and barak hussein ravid are now lying to calm the markets ahead of the futures rollover next weekiran would need to do something drastic to counter trumps rigging
>>533387428erdogan is mortal man. and his family is despised by all.i never voted for him and even protested against him but i am objective against his foreign policies.we are currently supplying 25% of Cubas electricity. and israel calling for our destruction.so we are in the shitlist.if we were in the goodgoys list, like argentina is, we would be gifted multiple 40billion dollars like argentina got.US expected to use our land, air, and sea space to strike Iran, but we denied it. i dont like erdogan for internal policies but some of his foreign policies are things I agree with.not to mention, our economy got striked just a decade ago as soon as erdogan stopped being a total puppet and acted with agency.our Lira lost 7 times its value against the Dollar in a single week.i know everybody wants to hate Erdogan but our economy is what it is because he is not the puppet everyone thinks he is. at least right now.
>>533386325>mosaic decentralized command structuretrump isn't negotiating with anyone or anything in particular>lol
So is Schrödinger's Strait open or closed?
>>533387005true but nonetheless araghchi's tweet was worded irresponsibly
>>533387474>it has thousands of them and many more precision strike munitionseven trump said that this is not so. pentagon already was warning that u.s. is low on standoff munitions before the war.
>>533387717the dead or alive iranian navy just shot at some container ships with speed boats
>>533387717>Iran observes the strait>collapsed
>>533387191Oh no ...they tried to hit the MEIN SCHIFF! The US won't like that.
meanwhile
>>533387698Holy shit dude I just looked it up and this is quite the chart
>>533387474>many more precision strike munitionsit has about as many left as it has already used. and if they expend the rest of the arsenal then the security situation in Ukraine and also Taiwan will become critical.it's not clear the Americans want to actually pull that trigger
>>533387478all they care about is reputation as they're bombed to smithereens. they literally sent their wives and children to hug power plants that america said it's going to blow up. death cultists. i agree now that IRGC should never be fully obliterated, they will chase and use a nuclear bomb up to their last dying breath. the world will sleep easier and safer with IRGC exterminated.
>>533387727Yeah, seems off. Maybe the calculus was just to put some weight on Trump's words knowing they'd lead to nothing.
>>533387590made it more Trumpy
Apparently, Israel is implementing a "Yellow Line" where they are free to stikre anything in Lebanon. This is exactly what they're doing in Gaza and Lebanon before. Its fucking bullshit and Iran better call them out on it.Frankly, I think these warnings and ultimatus by Iran are making them out to be indecisive. I think to set an example, they should launch a large scale missile attack on Israel, and if the US doesn't lift the blockade, then also blockade Bab al Mandab through Ansarallah.>>533386479As someone who used to prolifically defend Pakistan, especially against Indians online, I'm starting to hate them as much as I hate Turkroaches and Gulfniggers. They are proving themsaelves to be amerigolems. If their Shia had any spines, they'd have toppled this retarded pro-Israel regime, or atleast taken revenge after the US Embassy Marines when they shot a lot of protesters during the start of the war.
So has Trump xeeted recently about this recent happening? He's been awful quiet.
>>533387678motherfucker lie as much he breath yesterday wasn't enough . >>533387478 >Saudi media: It is expected that the Iranian and American delegations will arrive in Islamabad on Sunday, April 26.>Saudi media: Iran informed the Pakistani army chief that it will not abandon its missile program.and they will delay the talk to sun 26th
>>533387717it's exactly as open as it was ten days agowhich is to say "mostly closed"
>>533387826woman being performative, more at 11
>>533387875Nah that sucks bro it has to imitate the original Chinese style as close as possible.
>>533387765Why would they do this? Isn’t that illegal?
>>533387844have you heard of erdogans turkish monetary theory? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdo%C4%9Fanomics>Erdoğan personally interfered with the Central Bank of Turkey as well.[3][4] Erdoğan and his supporters made the recurring excuse that foreign powers were the reason for Turkish economic failures, as well as other conspiracy theories.[5][6] Despite Erdoğan and his government making reforms and promises, there was never any change as the lira continued to collapse.[7][8] Erdoğan continued his unorthodox economic policies despite criticism.[9] In 2024, as the lira kept declining, Izvestia claimed that Erdoğan was the reason Turkey was failing to save its economy.[10] The appointment of Vice-president Cevdet Yılmaz, a believer in orthodox economics, and the central bank's allowing of interest rates rising up to 50 percent has led to the suggestion that Erdoğan has moderated his position towards more traditional economic orthodoxy.[11][12]
>>533387474All Iran has to do it wait ... then Trump loses the mid-terms (regime change) and Europe is in economic chaos. Pretty simple.
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>>533387598israel is included in "neighbors" mr anon, that should be obvious
>>533387899who's saudi media citing? i don't think there are any saudi officials involved. just from random tweets?
>>533387899>Islamabad on Sunday, April 26But the ceasefire ends on April 22nd, I've read no news about an extension.
>>533387698>nato>not a puppet
>>533387374Saudis couldn't even beat the Houthis. I seriously doubt the other GCC states have better militaries.
>>533387926nah that's gay, chinese are gay
>>533387844yea. it is economic retaliation.you either be a full blown puppet or face the consequences.we will rather deal with the consequences.we have agency and we can persevere, akin to Iran in a sense, granted they are the example here, they are the exemplar for resiliance. they are the most sanctioned country in the world for a good 2 decades and are still bending the knee.
>>533387745that is classic "we need more funding" type of talk that america has done internally for decades. for example, "we will lose in a war with china" (so pay us more money ASAP)
>>533387811>MEIN SCHIFFidk what is that >The US won't like that.as they have a say
>>533387963so, what, you tihnk the democrats are gonna be like>ye, whatever, lets just let iran have the middle eastanon, there is NO scenario where the us abandons its control of the middle eastnot without trying EVERYTHING, including nukes, first
>>533388008>US expected to use our land, air, and sea space to strike Iran, but we denied it.i know you suffer from reading comprehension. i hope you fix that someday.
>>533387388>yet, tasnim news really did publish criticism of araghchi's statement.yeah theres a good bit of criticism in Persian twitter and it looks like he's been overruled / superceded by the IRGC, thank the gods. The biggest danger to Iran is a peacenik at the negotiating table.
>>533388038watched the coup attempt here live was kinosoldiers got lynched on the bosporus bridge day after and thrown into the river desupolice+mosques won the coup for erdogan
>>533387963eu can't do shit. eu bureaucracy can't even ratio jet fuel because member countries would have to act unanimous which they won't. rich eu countries will just outbid the poorer eu countries for jet fuel.
Hello anons. I haven't been following this lame ass war for the last few days - anything major happened?
>>533388038>*they are still NOT bending the knee.
>>533388073>not without trying EVERYTHING, including nukes, firstDoubtful. Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
>>533388072mein schiff means "my ship" in german, the least imaginative name for a ship possible
>>533387860JDAM kits are relatively inexpensive and easy to manufacture. the gucci long range stuff doesn't need to be used. you just throw it from high altitude and head out.
>>533387879He just said in an interview there won't be a removal of the US blockade and there won't be a cease fire extension so the US will bomb them again.
>>533386704They've been trying the Ghalibaf traitor angle for a while now.>>533386793I think they'll just trade retarded posts and insults until April 21st before extending the ceasefire again>>533387096>They would noooook the US or Israel immediatelywtf they're more of a rational actor than I thought>>533387168>Delta Force and SEAL team six were defeated by civil defense paramilitaries and armed civiliansPretty sure the opposite happened? The pilot rescue was a severe but rare disappointment by Iran, not to mention a number of Basij died in the clashes.
>>533387963Mid terms are in fucking NOVERMBER dude. If this shit is still fucked by then the elections will be the last thing anyone gives a shit about.
>>533388120>The biggest danger to Iran is a peacenik at the negotiating table.US sees negotiations as a sign of weakness
>>533387877>If their Shia had any spines, they'd have toppled this retarded pro-Israel regime, or atleast taken revenge after the US Embassy Marines when they shot a lot of protesters during the start of the war.amazed that nothing further happened. But Pakistan is really in a terrible economic state, the consequence of putting literally 99% of your points in the "military to oppose India" talent tree. At everything else, they're a disaster.
>>533387872it was either a fuckup or a weird ploy or, as the diasporoid intimates, a lack of discipline on Araghchi's part.tasnim's criticism included the following two tidbits (I'm relying on Twitter's auto translation for this)"The tweets that officials publish—even if they write them in English—are not seen only by foreign officials!""Any attempt to create anxiety or despair among this divinely inspired nation constitutes political disobedience and disruption of national unity."I read this as an implication from Tasnim along the following lines: "Araghchi, you intended this carefully worded and potentially misleading message to be read by foreign media and leaders, but you should have known that Iranians would catch wind of it too and that the ambiguity of your statement could lead people to draw demoralizing conclusions."This implies to me that they are leaving the door open, so to speak, to the possibility that Araghchi's statement was intended as some kind of trick or ploy meant only for western audiences, rather than accusing him of disloyalty or weakness outright
>>533388142mein schiff 4 has escaped but mein schiff 5 likely didn't make it
>>533387811>Mein Schiff Maybe Germans do have a sense of humor
>>533387811>>533387191Wouldn't be surprised if the ships were insured for significantly more than they are worth. I feel kinda sorry for the Iranians because jews win whether they sink it or not
>>533388133that whole shit was total fucking bullshit man.it was NOT a coup.it was a TV coup. for political real estate.the highest ranking soldier in that so called "coup" was a colonel, IN THE FUCKING AIR FORCE.it was not a proper coup by any stretch of the imagination. you are ignorant.
Hezbollah: denied killing French soldier and made that statement I believe killing relief worker is kike coded>Hezbollah denies any connection to the incident that occurred with UNIFIL forces in the Ghindourieh–Bint Jbeil area, and calls for caution in assigning judgments and responsibilities regarding the incident until the Lebanese Army completes its investigations to fully determine the circumstances.>Hezbollah stresses the continuation of cooperation between residents, UNIFIL, and the Lebanese Army, affirming the necessity of coordination between the Lebanese Army and UNIFIL in their movements, especially under these sensitive circumstances.>Hezbollah expresses astonishment at the positions that rushed to throw accusations indiscriminately, while these same parties remain absent and silent when the Israeli enemy attacks UNIFIL forces.
>>533388089>we totally denied>US used it anyway
>>533388073Iran isn't going anywhere either. You think they are all just going to walk into Israeli concentration camps?The US is strong but incredibly weak - they can't do what they want in a 4-year cycle ... especially not invade Iran.
>>533388013The only meaningful contribution the GCC could make would be paying for local mercenaries but no one is taking the bait. Mercs will only bite if it's at most a fair fight.
>>533387963>Trump loses the mid-terms (regime change)lolmaybe if a National Socialist American Worker's Party emerges between now and November and sweeps the house and senatebut the disekpowerment of the Republican party does not constitute regime change. the democrats are also kikeslaves
>>533388054no, it isn't, standoff munition procurement is public info and we know roughly how many have been expended in attacking Iran too
>>533388120Is Iraqchi a joke or is that his actual name and Aragchi is another transliteration?
>>533388287it was a coup, we monitored it here US backed on top but no generalsrussia warned erdog so he escaped from his vacation then raced back to his seat of power police fought for him, mosques called to prayerthe moment he got on a phone by emergency to proof he is still alive at atatürk airport the coup failed
>>533387342I thought the destabilised Lira problem was solved now. I do recall Turkey has a pretty good and growing defence industry now and I assumed the rest of the economy was also starting to grow.>>533387422I'll never see $150 WTI and Brent Crude ;'(Pls Mr.Khamenei, my grandmother's dying wish was to see a global recession. Would you do this small kindness?>>533387494Mine is, and always will be Soleimani. I miss that nigga like you wouldn't believe.
>>533388005yah I was wondering the same but think iran is fed up with us esp with >>533387478>>533387986no anon but paki ministers is in saudi or something and this their state media
>>533388410>Is Iraqchi a joke or is that his actual name and Aragchi is another transliteration?i think its just how Grok transliterated the spelling used in that twitter post
>>533388225Yeah, even if he's trying to do Trump tier shit it's just bad strategy. Maybe he's playing the markets too lol
>>533387963sorry to inform you about mid term "regime change" but even if *every single available seat* went democrat it would only barely enable regime change. in the senate there are only 35 seats up for election, democrats have locked in 34 seats, so that is 69 seats, when you need 67 to remove the president. current projections have democrats as a minority in the senate again, not picking up nearly 20 unanticipated seats.
Audio of the Indian ship that was attack earlier today.>Here’s today’s audio recording involving SANMAR HERALD (9330563).>https://x.com/TankerTrackers/status/2045495025115480547
>>533388170the standoffs do need to be used if Iranian AD is still operating. we have litigated this subject roughly 1,000 times since /pig/ began. b-52s were seen taking off from Fairford slung up with full complements of JASSM-ERs as late as the final week of the war so please don't pretend that the Americans had switched to only using JDAMs or that Iranian AD was obliterated
>>533388412dude you dont know jack shit.nothing. nada.they allowed it to happen. to milk it for political estate. it was not a suprise. they could have prevented it from the get go but they allowed it to brainwash ignorant people like you.so you can claim that 'imams" stopped the coup on 4chan years later.take a hike.
>>533388430Soleimani was a real nigga. He must have the biggest shit eating grin up in heaven watching all this go down.
>>533388194An election is dependent on the month and years before it you fool. Oil will be $150 - $200 in a month. Inflation will kill the economy. And you have to believe Trump cares about not losing the house.
>>533388170JDAMs need to be dropped basically straight overhead, and I suspect that's how the US has been losing planes. They'd much rather shoot jassm which they're running out of
>>533388528I do know it, erdogan purged the military too well in advance so he escaped by the skin of his teeth.Have been countering the deliberate coup as purge attempt since the night it happened here.It is too risky and was too close for a fake. What happened is that erdogan was about to stage the last stageof his own purge that is what triggered it but didn't get any generals on their side.
>>533388259>Wouldn't be surprised if the ships were insured for significantly more than they are worth.that's not a thing for ships. it's more like car insurance: you get the current value back. the current value neither makes up for your lost business for months till you get a new ship, nor will a new ship be cheaper than a used one.
>>533388516that's assuming america still isn't okay with taking any losses. we just sailed USN ships through the hormussy. it's not off the table that ROEs change to allow more risk and enable use of JDAMs even in a contested environment. you are right that this topic is beat to death, i'm just suggesting the situation could change.
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>>533388259Sinking a passenger vessel is just asking for western media to demonize you too, although afaik the ones transiting are just relocating and bot actually carryin people
>>533387877>shia topple pakistanin karachi you might see them being openly shot and lynched for being kafir. There are plenty of groups from taliban , baloch to ahmadiyas who want to replace the paki military dictatorship but at the end of the day they are all rag rats against US weaponry given to paki state
>>533388259they need to attack first >India call for Iranian ambassador after a ship was targeted
>>533388334my honest best guess:-negotiations don't go anywhere, things escalate, and the us bombs every bit of infra in iran. not nukes, but same thing with more bombs-irgc retaliates against the gulf and israel, possibly incl dirty bombs with whatever uranium they have-iran collapses as a country, millions starve in iran, tens of millions become refugees. they are NOT well received anywhere, as iran has very recently attacked and/or sponsored terrorist group action in every neighbor in the gulf- tens or hundreds or millions starve worldwide in poorer regions, as half or more of the gulf's oil production goes offline, with obvious horrible consequences for energy and fertilizer prices and availability-the IRGC becomes a rogue terrorist/pirate organization, permanently preventing transits through the strait of hormuz and hounding nearby us-allied states -the gulf slowly rebulds, this time focused 100% on pipelines to red sea or mediterranean, and also shitloads of anti-drone defenses.-us bases in the region are rebuilt, this time with strong focus on underground facilities and anti-drone defenses
>>533388706>Sinking a passenger vessel human shields
>>533388336I'm sure the Iranians won't mind another democrat that will fly in a few billion dollars US on a plane to Tehran.
>>533388513footage from the crew
To me it feels like Iran wants to continue the war but Trump doesn't, so you get these small periods where Iran says one thing and then they go back on their word hoping Trump starts attacking them again.It's quite fascinating to watch. Wonder what's going on
>>533386378We also want war, you think those 20,000 troops and nuke readiness tests are just for show?
>>533388706>dont move or we'll shoot>moves>gets shot the people in the west understand this dichotomy
>>533386120remember when /ptg/ raided this general for hours in a dedicated fashion attempting consensus cracking before the informational lag was processed and everyone saw that Trump was just lying again, lol
>>533388847The "people" in the west have long detached actions from consequences
>>533388492I meant losing the House and the Senate, making him a lame duck, obviously not a revolution.
Saudi Finance Minister on how $90 a barrel oil is fake and laughable. video with audio at>>>/wsg/6130102also archived at https://files.catbox.moe/c7kly5.mp4
>>533388613dude what are you talking about.?seriously?less than 1 percent of the military participated in the event.again, the highest ranking soldier in that coup was a fucking COLONEL, IN THE AIR FORCE.i cant believe i have to explain this to you. but air force ranks are jokes. other branches make fun of air force ranks because you have to be a fucking CAPTAIN just to fly a fucking helicopter.air force ranks are meaningless, so a COLONEL in the air force is equivalent to a mere captain in the regular ARMY.it was a meme coup, that they knew it was coming from miles away. they allowed it to happen so they can pose in front of cameras as heroes. they sacrificed all those people that died. they exploited their deaths.and you are a moron if you think that a "coup" that had less than 1% of the armed forces was ever going to succeed or was a serious threat.please stop talking about this.i am losing hope for my country when i listen to brainwashed people like you. stop.
>>533388746>iran collapses as a countryThis isn't remotely possible unless US decides to use strategic nuclear weapons or start a ground invasion larger in scale than Iraq.
>>533388746in your scenario the gulf rebuilds instead of fleeing and dieing without waterignores the missile cities firing for a year on israel and any US forces anywhere in the middile east
>>533388854And now they're all too scared to post at all. There's usually 1 or 2 fags at all times. It's comfy now.
>>533388601>JDAMs need to be dropped basically straight overhead,for JDAM-ERs launched from 45k feet, can be as far away as 70km
>Believing Trump Post>On Friday morning
>>533388802Trump wants to TACO, israel wants war, Iran could go either way. I personally think the war will start back up after the ceasefire expires, though.
Migroids are suddenly so fucking quiet, thank God. Embarrassed once again by the mongrel ape's grandiose lies.
>>533388854miggers take to hopium like addicts react to crack
>>533388890We got all kinds of that but they also don't give a fuck about international news
>>533388909colonel coup yes I know, they historical failed but he was acting constitutionalthe generals were not
dont worry guys i just talked to the ayatollah and hes opening up your moms straight
>>533388516>the final week of the warThe final week won't happen for another fifteen years kek
>>533389004there was no general involved. that is the point.what are you talking about?dude, just stop.
why did iran cuck out? they might never have a better chance at a decisive victory over israel (maybe even the US) why would you take your foot off the gas? really does make me start to believe the people who claim most wars are fake
>>533388725explain zia then. establishment being against political islam is a recent development.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Establishment_(Pakistan)>In the 2000s, the military establishment later reversed its support of political Islam under General Pervez Musharraf, who pursued enlightened moderation, leading Pakistan to join the United States-led war on terror and subsequently becoming designated as a major non-NATO ally by the Bush administration.[6] Furthermore, in the 2010s, General Raheel Sharif pursued a policy of hardline crackdowns on Islamist militant groups, continuing this reversal of Zia-ul-Haq's aggressive pro-Islamist policies.[7]
>>533388142We seemed to have a ceasefire and possible strait getting opened to all traffic, and then a ceasefire in Lebanon was announced last night, only for it to be Trump making shit up, and now everything is shut and about to turn back to a shooting war.
>>533388691thank you for that acknowledgement it's possible that ROE could change. but if USAF demonstrates loss tolerance in a second phase of the war, that would indicate an acute change in the political approach to the conflict. we all saw how heaven and earth were moved to rescue the two pilots. but if we start losing a strike eagle or two every week? you just can't do a heroic spec ops operation that expends two MC-130J's once or twice a week. you have to accept that the Iranians are going to end up with some captives or that your pilots are going to be MIA in some mountain range for an extended period of time, and you're going to have to field questions about what's being done to save them at press conferences. recall that between the moment of the shootdown and the confirmation of the second rescue mission, the Pentagon and CENTCOM were totally silent for 48 hours. they take the whole invincible aura thing very seriously because they reckon that visible American losses will seriously damage public approval of the war. I think they're right
>>533389057Pressure from China, and Pakistan misled them to believe that US is willing to make concessions at the negotiation table.
>>533388940Still knife range comparatively to the jassm's almost 400km and the tomahawk's 1500km
Americans are nothing but lying kikes now and the entire maga movement has become as cultist and dishonest as your average kike movement
>>533389041the generals were constitutionally obligated to coup erdoganbut erdogan got ahead of itif the police and mosques didn't aid or if the raid on erdogans hotel succeeded the coup would have worked, the phone interview got ahead of potential cascade that made the military side against erdogansince the night it happened I insist it was too risky for a fake
>>533388948>tfw no nymphoid venom goth gfwhy even lerb
>>533388974Those "people" were documented in the 2010s, by now they've been promoted to the decision making level hence why everything js going to shit
>>533389057Both sides needed the ceasefire anonchama. Amerifats needed to strip every missile from around the planet to protect the Jews and Iran needed time to unfuck their shit from the ten thousand bombs it just had dropped on it.
>>533389139yea you are brainwashed.you dont know jack fucking shit.i am sorry. but i cannot take this anymore.erdogan sacrificed all those people on the streets for political game on a memecoup. that is all.all that imam bullshit is just media propaganda that you take for granted like the brainwashed traitor that you are.take a fucking hike.
>>533389057historically negotiation attempts early into or just before fighting are very common and often go nowheretoo much fog of war to really make too much of it at this point
>>533387232Go back to bed, grandpa. We have 2026 now.
>>533389184iran didn't need the ceasefire, it only hurt Iran I think
>>533388912iran will absolutely collapse if the us bombs all its ports, all its oil wells, all its refineries, its factories, its power stations, etc etcyes, yes, i've seen the map with the iranian grid, fine, maybe they can't get everythingso what. they can definitely get enough to make iran incapable of extracting and refining oil, and of exporting or importing any resources, and of having any sort of industrial activityiran is a country of 90 million or so, it NEEDS all those things to continue to function>>533388914>the gulf rebuilds instead of fleeing and dieing without waterthe gulf can't "flee", whatever that meansand yes, people will absolutely die there if iran bombs enough desalination plantsbut those can and will be rebuilt, as will whatever refineries or oil wells irans bombs too its going to take years, but it will happen>ignores the missile cities firing for a year on israel and any US forces anywhere in the middile eastmy scenario assumes that iran becomes incapable of producing any more missiles. the missile cities are storage depots, maybe final assembly toothey don't have chemical factories or ore refineries down thereso, iran will run out of missiles. drone too, except whatever temu shit they can smuggle from china (except, without the ability to trade oil for it, what are they gonna pay with?)so, my scenario assumes that iran runs out of missiles fairly quickly (months to a year or 2 tops) and thereafter has only drones, and low quality ones too. which is enough to prevent commercial passage through the strait, and to keep dubai real estate worthless, but not for anything more. so, yea, after a year or 2, when current iran stockpiles run out, the gulf absolutely gets rebuilt
king faisal needs to come back i hate how cucked the gcc is right now.
>>533389033okay, okay, the most recent week of the war, then.>>533389057the war is already not fake a bunch of iranian officials died>>533388952Iran wants their concessions. they don't seem to care whether they get them via diplomacy or by launching missiles. this irritates their fans who really, really want to see them launch their missiles (at Israel)
>>533389058>explain zia ul haqHe has the record of killing most palestinians after israel quite literally
>>533387294The ONLY fucking people who would believe in a false flag at this point are the boomers who wanted the war to begin with. Jews WILL kill Americans for fun but it will not get them war support.
>>533389243that happened last month grünschnabel>>533389231I'm not a turk and not pro erdogan. Anyway that was too pathetic, no dictator would stage this.On the tiny phone screen held up by the reporter so pathetic xD
>>533389245>SARR WE HAVE AUTHORIZE FUCKING BECHNOD BASTARD SARRR
>>533389174there seems to be endemic levels of hubris across the board
>>533387294Look up how many Americans trust their government and their pro-government media channels. Compare the values to 2001. To round it up, find a recent poll over how many Americans trust Donald Trump. Sure, some Americans are going to believe that the Iranians did it. Not many though.
>>533389282>iran will absolutely collapse if the us bombs all its ports, all its oil wells, all its refineries, its factories, its power stations, etc etcNo country has ever been defeated by air campaign alone.Iran would be the first in history, if the US were to succeed.
>>533389286fact anon fact check this>>533387899
>>533389245>That 30 year old Hormoozer
>>533389286Wasn’t your country a mega shithole under him?
>>533389395
>>533389286You have always been the biggest shabbos goyim. Might as well throw away your Quran and wear a kippah because that’s how your monarchy behaves.
>>533389057Political gains: >Gave Trump the chance to grossly exaggerate, diminishing what little credibility he had upon reality catching up >Demonstrated the propensity to be diplomatic under intense pressure, defying the caricature of being bloodthirsty terroristsStrategic gains: >Bought time to dig out munition stockpiles from caves that were collapsed at their entrance by air strikes>Extended the time where the strait is closed, but without their own civilians being bombed. More economic pain at a much lower cost to the state
>>533389282It won't take many missiles to bomb all the oil refineries, pipes and ports in Kuwait, Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia.... including all the oil you will lose from Iran (why do you think Trump will never bomb Kharg island) the world (Europe, India and China) NEEDS all those things to continue to function. You seem to think this is just about Iran.
>>533389386The Iranians attacked American helicopters with trebuchets last month?
>>533389282>the gulf can't fleeThe US estimated in 2008 that Riyadh (SA capital) would run out of water within a week if the desalination plant went off, and even now they can only get fresh water every other day. They'll be fleeing like it or not
>>533389422>No country has ever been defeated by air campaign alone.wrong.nazis bombed netherlands to capitulation. nato bombed serbia to capitulation.
>>533389282>just plug their mouth and assholes, airtight, use 20 corksbut then you get starving muslim babies again, Iran would turn the internet back on for that to be sure, and we’re pretty far beyond the regime taking hits for america and israel’s behaviorTrump needs to decide if the international community matters or doesn’t matter, and it won’t be neat or tidy.
>>533389386he let that coup happen for politicial gains, so he can get in front of a tv camera.he allowed it to happen, a coup orchastrated by sub-officers, people that are not even officers in the army. let that sink in.he asked people to go on the street and many people died. he killed those people, just to claim that some imams did some shit and saved the country.it is all a pathetic fucking meme.i hate erdogan for his internal policies. but i take some of his foreign policies.
>>533389282the gulf would not be rebuild as proper countries if 40 million people die of thirst there>months to a yearI don't think Israel and the GCC can take that year and stay discrete functioning entitieswould the US mow the grass in iran to prevent rebuilding over that year?
>>533389422i didn't say it would be *conquered*i sait it would *collapse*, and millions will die, and tens of millions will become refugeesthe irgc will still retain control, probably, but what they control will be millions of starving villagers returned to a pre-industrial state
>>533389395saar are angry >>533388735
>>533387963>>533388583>>533388492>>533388336>there are people on this board that genuinely believe the ZOG is literally just Trump+AIPAC and think the Dems are anti-zionist>there are people on this board that genuinely believe that the same party that pushed open borders, nigger-faggotry, and every government powergrab of the past 30 years isn't completely ZOGGED>there are people on this board that genuinely believe that Leftists aren't inherently a product of Jewry and that the East isn't as ZOGGED as the Westwhat the fuck has become of this board, Jesus fucking Christ.
MEETINGS OFFhttps://x.com/polymarket/status/2045516311120228619MEETINGS ARE OFFMEETINGS OFF>MEETINGS OFF
>>533389431thanks egyptbro. we need to uncuck our shit, i hate americans and the jews so much. you know what's frustrating, some "sheikh" complained that so many of us are boycotting american stores and brands saying it's damaging local business instead of what's going on in the region, nigga shut up im tired of these humiliation rituals imposed on me, let me at least not support the Jews and americans
>>533389377>>533389415I'm sure gen z and millennials would mostly be immune to the propaganda, but I'm highly doubtful about the boomers and gen x.And those age groups outnumber the younger generations for now.
>>533389461Does indians actually think this is a power stance?It's litterally a posture you do when you surrender to the police.>Let's bot to this monkey who surrender to usThere is something wrong with their thought process.
>>533389616>source: jew gambling app
>>533389112the politicians have already achieved their office. losing face is really not that big of an issue, they want to avoid it, but if the alternative is worse, they'll push onward. that's what politicians are known for, throwing away other people's lives to reach the best feasible scenario. i personally think all of this is far from reality, that safe bombings today will be the choice, accepting not having those bombs in a stockpile and corpses the next door over. but safe bombings probably have a much wider aperture considering america's SEAD capabilities. apparently we have flown many low-level missions over iran for a month and only lost one fighter with a couple others hit.
>>533389395fake news.we have the actual audio.https://x.com/TankerTrackers/status/2045495025115480547>You gave me clearance to go>>You gave me clearance to go
>>533389610>East isn't as ZOGGED as the Westexcept north korea
>>533388973Crack users at least don't think it's a goddamn Vitamin.
>>533389531its on video, iranian shepards with hunting rifles shooting at blackbird helicoptersthe things smoke black on video and the damages were confirmed by the US later on>>533389559I argue it was too risky and pathetic. No autocrat would risk it.The soldiers fought the police and rioters. Saw the videos of the soldiers who blocked the bosporus bridge get lynched and thrown into a wet grave the next morning then when the coup failed.It was real just failed pathetic because it didn't get erdogan right away which was the plan. He raced with jet escorts back and on atatürk airport spoke via phone with the TV from preventing more to join the constitutionally mandated coup.Remember in turkey the coup side was constitutionally correct and erdogan was wrong.
>>533389610Find me one single Jew in the Chinese Communist Party
>>533389640>some "sheikh" complained that so many of us are boycotting american stores and brands I was going to have stroke seeing the video on reddit. man idk what happen I done with humiliation rituals we live in
>>533389444we at least lived with dignity.>>533389487it's frustrating that i have no retort and can't even cope. there will be a new term made for the amount of humiliation the average gulfie gets. we need to get our dignity back.
>>533386120Test
>>533389567I'd argue that even in such a severely deteriorated state, that they'd still be able to blockade the strait of Hormuz.They've been threatening ships with mostly drones and missiles, but they would not hesitate to use mines in a scenario like that.
>>533389610>unironically using “leftists”anon, we’re all pretty aware that the entirety of americas politics are entirely zoggedit’s the ideological fervor Trump displays for Israel that makes him so uniquely zogged.
>>533389797dude it was Truman Show shit.nothing more.it wasnt a proper coup to begin with.all those so called imams you mention are nothing but propaganda after the fact.stop talking about this at this point.
>>533389526yes, you're right, iran will likely take a big part of the gulf along with themthe us doesn't care. from the us perspective, a fully destroyed gulf is better than a gulf they don't control. worse, a gulf controlled by an hostile regime (iran) that is economically beholded to the us' mortal enemy (china)and the us doesn't NEED iran, or the gulf. yes, im aware about the issue with american refineries not being optimized for so and so oil and whatnot. that's a minor problem and will be fixed if needed, with only (relatively) minor economic disruption occurring in the meantime. the fact is that the us, and the americas in general, are self-sufficient in energy destroying the gulf hurts the old world, not the us. and the us would rather hurt the old world than lose its dominance over the global energy trade.and NOTHING changes that calculus. it doesn't matter if the democrats or the republicans control congress, or the senateit doesn't even matter if trump gets impeached. the us is the us, whoever is in nominally in charge. no us administration is going to say>ok, iran, you win, the middle east is yours now, gg wpits just not going to happenEVERYTHING will be attempted before that happensno matter the cost
>>533389610reductionism is impossible if the stepping stones to get there are missing. yes both "sides" are compromised. that isn't even really a question. but we're discussing the tactical level decisionmaking of the "sides" not the strategic-level cooperation of kikes
https://www.ukmto.org/recent-incidents#befb3bf5-8dd0-43c0-becf-c28f3e98d5a3
okey yesterday was 100% about market
>fake market numbers>fake tweets>fake oil being traded>fake sanctions>Schrodinger's StraitWhenever WW3 breaks out it's mostly going to be fought online with people telling each other lies back and forth and stabbing them in the back when they follow bad advice. Hopefully you're time on the internet has taught you enough when you believe what you read and when you shouldn't.
>>533389844>I'd argue that even in such a severely deteriorated state, that they'd still be able to blockade the strait of Hormuz.i 100% agreeimo the strait is gone, permanently.from now on its pipelines only, and those pipelines will need serious anti-drone measures in place, permanently.
>>533389918>Freedom of navigationCan we navigate?>no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeEByBNfZk
>>533389993jejhave some mongolian umas
>>533389912>The strait is open bro just go bro
>>533389968no they're also gonna grind soldiers into mush for the 2030 depopulation agenda, pretending like the bot spam is real discourse supporting worldwide self-genocide
>>533389918only us army has apaches.how come us navy needs help?also shouldn't army drill for some air assault instead of wasting time something that's not their speciality?
>>533389893it was a colonel coup those seldom succeed, the turkish military by the turkish constitution has to do a coup when an erdogan existbut he prevented it with purges and weakened the plot in advanceif they got him at the hotel (where they tried to take him prisoner/kill him) or if he took just a day to get back then the coup might have been possible, you look at the failed state in which a clever erdogan managed to survive and get control back I had this argument countless times over the years and simply disagree. This was too risky for erdogan and the plot was well executed and a decent chance on paper.It went wrong at critical junctures and erdogan played his hand clever to win.
>>533389728>except north koreaThey're literally a starving (communist) shithole run by a fatass>>533389802Communism is Inherently jewish, the only reason why China is even relevant is because of that kike Kissinger>>533389871>>533389911The Dems are NOT going to end the war if they win the midterms, they're just going to find a new justification for it while to going even harder. Look at every Dem president since carter and tell me otherwise
>>533389901Iran is stopping 18 million barrels of oil a day from being exported. The US cares because Joe Blow from Texas is about to pay double for diesel and food and a million other things. He will never again look kindly on Jews or Boomers.
>>533390077only if there was more brave captains on those oil tankers the strait would be open
>>533389797May I see that video?
>>533386120Doing a sexy Chinese spy play through in fallout rn
>>533390115navy can't get close enough us is flying from iraq
>>533387375mein dicks'erect whenever I see strike maps of Pissrael, should be nukes
>>533390120dude just stop.you dont know jack fucking shit.and stop lying about you being not turkish.you are not convincing anyone.because only a brainwashed turk in germany that votes for the left parties in germany like Die Linke and then comes to Turkey and votes for the right party of Erdogan will say the things you are saying.you are uninformed or brainwashed. or both.please stop.
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>>533390154>pay double for diesel and fooddiesel isn't used by average joes in the US. it's only for actual trucking.
>>533390115They are UAE Apache.
>>533390124indeed, I’m not a democrati went balls out on Polis openly and called him a faggot jew in his suggestion box for making a presser about antisemitism after 10,000 Gazans diedI hate our whole system, it’s kiked top to bottom, I’m just complaining about the current managerwe have one problem, the jew, everything else is a conversation we can have, or a situation we can handle
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>>533389282>iran will absolutely collapse if the us bombs all its ports, all its oil wells, all its refineries, its factories, its power stations, etc etcBYE BYE ISRAEL and thats why Trump doesn't want to do this.
>>533386550My uncle works for Nintendo and I heard the rescue missions were just to steal enriched uranium. the capabilities of the team that was sent included handling materials like that.
>>533389610its not 2016 anymore mate everyone is well aware of the uniparty system
>>533386120Nothing ever happens
>>533390310wronghttps://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2045468301799645569
>>533390281And farming.. but who needs food or the ability to transport it when you have Israel on your side.
>>533390394>BAKED MIGRATE>>533390394>BAKED MIGRATE>>533390394>BAKED MIGRATE>/pig/ - Persia Israel General #947 EVERYTHING IS STILL THE SAME EDITION
>>533390281I'm sure they do ... and their wives would uses whatever is used to make Gas.
>>533390170https://xcancel.com/nucleusprime/status/2040137195886166374#mhttps://xcancel.com/MOSCOW_EN/status/2040044160384680133#mhttps://xcancel.com/trakerguru/status/2040030268871020668#mhttps://xcancel.com/geopolitics_s/status/2040106183940567522#mthey came under fire and took damage both sides agree on thatdin't find all the footage but we saw the thing up in smokes and hunter shooting at themthe shepard was on iranian tv afterwards bragging about it
>>533390244kurdistan has a right to exist, turks are dogs, the armenian genocide happened, atatürk was greek
>>533390450>CENTCOM How did they get there? aircraft carrier?
>>533389640>>533389818Being friendly to jews means you are possessed and controlled by jews. Time to be labelled as enemies of jews, we get much more to gain in sovereignty and honor.
>>5333873759 killed in Beit Shemesh when a missile demolished a synagogue.
>>533390713That’s a stike, based Hezbollah, straight into the synagogue of Satan killing 9 demons at least.
Hwats worng wiht 4channels trhaed no up to dates
>>533389901>the us doesn't careThe US should care, 20% of oil (+ a significant percentage of gas, plus helium, plus fossil fuels byproducts + ...) going permanently offline for the foreseeable future would crash the global economy with no survivors, the amerifats would be able to survive as a nation but the economic depression that they would suffer as trade and credit networks collapse would make 1929 look pretty in comparison. Also, a lot of their car dependent communities would simply have to be abandoned.
>>533389901>no us administration is going to say>>ok, Vietnam, you win, the mekong region is yours now, gg wp>its just not going to happen>EVERYTHING will be attempted before that happens>no matter the cost
>>533389797For reference the S-70/UH-60 is called "Blackhawk". "Blackbird" is another famous plane, the SR-71
>>533388259>Wouldn't be surprised if the ships were insured for significantly more than they are worth.Yes but not in the way you think.The sticking point is payout conditions.Actually.That might be a major reason for the two trillion request — Trump wants funds to at pre war conditions.
>>533391712>That might be a major reason for the two trillion requestwhat was that?
>>533389415I think you conflate liking the government with trusting the official story.Most non Boomers detest Bush but saying he did 9/11 is arguably *less* Öffentlichkeitstauglich on the left.Right.Holy emotions on the Right = Fear and disgust Holy emotions on the Left = Grief and shame.You can always manipulate a rightist by threatening something disorderly or gross. You can always threaten a leftist by threatening something sad or embarrassing.
>>533390790Unknown missile.
>>533389991I really don't see a scenario where that happens. The willingness to pay the at the Ayatollbooth far exceeds the US military's ability to turn people back permanently.
>>533389991>and those pipelines will need serious anti-drone measures in place, permanentlythis is not realistic in any sense unless you make the whole pipe line go through underground
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