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>your type
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?

>16 personalities
https://www.16personalities.com/
>Enneagram:
enneagramtest.com
>love type
ttps://lovetype16.com/personality
>Myers Briggs Type Indicator Text analyzer:
https://www.uclassify.com/browse/g4mes543/myers-briggs-type-indicator-text-analyzer?input=Text
>Turbie-Wurbie's Cutesy Test Link Compilation! UwU:
https://pastebin.com/6YSzm68D

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>>83233126
>your type
I don't know anymore anon keeps making such good arguments about why I'm not an INTJ. Maybe I really am an ESTP after all
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I am thankful every single morning, and Even more thankful when I see Turbie!! ^_^
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
I would invite ENTJ to organize the dinner
INFJ-T to provide a helping hand
and an ENFP-T to support the team!!
I think that together they could do it and create something delicious without fighting at all!
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
If I was sure I would not be in the 60% of men turning into girls I would click that button twice!
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
hmmm, infp maybe
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
I'm not really good at typing people so idk >_<"
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>>83233126
Not only is the MBTI pseudoscientific nonsense, but on top of that, you're giving the worst website for it.
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>>83233182
What's the best test for getting your right mbti?
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There was a fake Turbie Enjoyer in the end of thread yesterday and they tricked people even though I have a tripcode now T_T"
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>>83233191
From what I've seen, the best sites are those based on cognitive functions rather than those that categorize you with letters to determine whether you are I = introverted or E = extroverted, for example. At the top of my list is Michael Caloz's test, which is pretty good, but the best foolproof method is to learn about these cognitive functions to determine your type.
But again, people are not one-dimensional, which is why the Big 5 remains more practical because it places people on a spectrum.
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>>83233225
Which test site would you recommend to someone who wanted to find out some stuff?
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>>83233126
>your type
infp
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
i try my best to be all the time but i need a few hiper depressive days to balance it out
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
intj, entj, estj. no further comment.
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
yes
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
me(ow)
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
i used to know an esfp who claimed to be enfp. they vaped in class, came hungover drunk on mondays, didn't know how to send an email and had little to no disregard for any rules or time limits.
>>83233182
>but on top of that, you're giving the worst website for it.
unfortunately have to agree on this one 16p sucks
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>>83233262
You have 8dreams to find out your political values, or human benchmark to test your cognitive abilities.
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>>83233126
Good morning.
>your type
ENTJ, it's like a INTJ but with friends
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I'm pretty thankful most days.
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
3 ENFPs to amuse me like clowns.
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
No
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
ENFP (cause they think it's cute) and ESFP cause they think it's sexy.
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
Some INTPs here act like INFPs feelers.
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>>83233126
>>your type
ESFP-T
>>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
All the time.
>>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
No.
>>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
It's probably me.
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>>83233126
Hello.

>your type
ISTP - T

>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
Define thankful

>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
Anyone, it's not that important

>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
NO !

>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
Cat type

>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
I dont think i do
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>>83233371
Big ENFP enjoyer this morning :3
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>>83233371
good morning melascula poster!
>3 ENFPs to amuse me like clowns.
they once put chuu (an enfp) in a room with 100 enfps. the result was about the expected.
https://youtu.be/rXVrG5eQQYM?si=2iBYRLv_rkZ6HlAE
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>>83233423
Mornin TE how u feeling? Here's a rose for you: @>~~~~
As far as ENFPs: what can I say they make good clowns.
>>83233428
And here's one for you @>~~~~ kpopnona.
Thanks for the video. I'll share one too. Yesterday I was at safeway and some weebs were blasting this embarrassing song that kept going
>Lov-u love! lov-u love! lov-u love!
So I had to track that down:
https://youtu.be/pidjFwxLoW8?si=6U-otvu9Ds4AbJ_v
Anyways have you heard of group GWSN?
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>>83233420
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
>Cat type
That's dogphobic, you're a dogist perpetuating the catriarchy oppression.
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>>83233540
>And here's one for you @>~~~~ kpopnona
thank you. i'll use this and my meds as motivation to get out of bed, get ready and buy a new book of crosswords.
>So I had to track that down
i'm definitely not built for modern anime
>Anyways have you heard of group GWSN?
yes i have! i don't know any of the songs but miya is what the last remaining tomboy/butch in gg kpop? i considered stanning just for her, but none of their songs have really gotten my attention.
but god is she good looking.
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>>83233126
>your type
INFJ-A
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
Most of the time, I'd say.
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
ENFP, INTP and.... [free space]
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
No, that's fuckin' gay.
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
Gays.
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
Yes. 99% of people. Anyone who uses a test to attain their type.
>>83233191
There isn't one.
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>it was a tranny
No wonder he went completely apeshit when called out
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>>83233540
>@>~~~~
A rose for me? :O
Wow I never gotten a flower before
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>>83233402
Hi ESFP-tan o/

>>83233420
>define thankful
Meaning you say "Wow I am so grateful that I have clean water and food today"
You never know when it won't be there any more
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>>83233290
>16p sucks
Which test is your favorite? Do you like sarkinova?
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>>83233589
dogs can go suck my dick and i would love that

>>83233647
>Meaning you say "Wow I am so grateful that I have clean water and food today"
You never know when it won't be there any more
Well i'm occasionally thankful i guess, it depends on the mood
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>>83233652
>Do you like sarkinova?
yes yes. i think there's no better way really than to study the functions and analyse yourself, but if we're talking a multiple options quiz i think it's the best one
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>>83233600
You really know your Kpop, I'm impressed. Story time: Around 2020 I went on a date with a Korean guy named, (no joke) youngsuck, anyways he was related to one of the girls in GWSN, I forget which one.
I think this was their big song:
https://youtu.be/OCk0NYDe0sY?si=WVEEaUl03xr6ZFJ0
>>83233644
And heres some money too: [-($)-] [-($)-] [-($)-] go buy turbie some flowers.
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Sakinorva is no different than 16p.
Online tests do not test functions.
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>>83233751
Those are a tests? For some reason I thought those were the names of Kpop groups.
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>your type
INTJ 5w4
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
Rarely.
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
INFJ, INTP and INFP. Deep conversations.
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
Depends if I was turned into a cat girl. I'm a man and don't want that.
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
ENFP
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
No, the only friend I have that is into MBTI is INFJ and not mistyped.
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>>83233722
>You really know your Kpop
i would hope so
>youngsuck
omo unfortunate name
>he was related to one of the girls in GWSN, I forget which one.
i don't know if id be more embarrassed going on a date and figuring out they're related to a group i stan or one i don't stan. can you imagine how awkward it would be?
>so you like kpop huh? my little cousin is in this group do you like them?
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>83233946
>INTJ 5w4
>Depends if I was turned into a cat girl. I'm a man and don't want that.
can we turn him into a catboy???? for no particular reason
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>>83233994
I'd be fine with being turned into a catboy if it meant getting amazonian chicks.
...Probably. Depends on if the transformation affects me mentally.
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>>83234059
>amazonian chicks.
god damn it
this has to work eventually
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>>83234059
You don't become a catboy though you become a cat girl
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>>83234092
As I said I'm a man and wouldn't want to be turned into a girl even if it meant getting amazonian chicks.
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>>83233126
>>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
Infj
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>>83233126
>your type
INFP
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I'm never thankful
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
INFJ, ISFJ and INTJ
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
No
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
ISFP freaks
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
I don't know anyone who's typed at all, nobody irl around me cares about MBTI
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>>83234133
But think about it if you end up being a boy in the new world there will be so many women you will surely get a girlfriend!
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>>83233126
Did you all see OP image isn't it sooo cute!!!!!!!!!
>>83233722
>[-($)-] [-($)-] [-($)-] go buy turbie some flowers.
Yaya! I will buy the prettiest ones for sure

Here a rose for you
@>~~~~
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>>83233126
>your type
INTJ
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I'm thankful for some things, don't remember which things. But I also do not appreciate what I have and wish I had way more, because I should have more.
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
umm idk. I don't get along with most people, and I wouldn't like to pick introverts because then it would be really awkward.
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
Yes
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
INFP
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
All the time, turbie enjoyer for example. That nigga is definitely an Si motherfucker that makes me seethe so much.
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>>83235138
>That nigga is definitely an Si motherfucker that makes me seethe so much.
So do you think I'm an
ENFP
INFP
ESTJ
ISTJ
ENTP
INTP
ESFJ
or
ISFJ?
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>>83233126
>your type
INTP
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
a few times a year, didn't understand the question, like, i barely have any reason to thank someone
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
No one, i'd save the money, but maybe the other t types because they'd think more
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
Yeah
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
INFP and T/J's
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
no idk much about mbti i just got into it and idk the stereotypes really well
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>>83235290
You have NeFi and FeTi. I can tell quite easily from your past conversations, like, you like to maintain a certain consensus with people around you and you never go out of line with what other people say, which is indicative of Fe. You almost never give your true opinion on something, only vaguely. This is not Fi behavior.
You are also always here 24/7, you have adopted this thread as your own for many years now. No Se person, even if inferior would choose to just do that amount of the same experience, as Se will always crave some kind of novelty with other experiences. NeSi likes to explore novelty within existing frameworks they're familiar with.
I think your Fe is possibly higher than your Ti, and I also think that your Ne is higher than you Si.
I know that you won't really listen to me because I am "not the consensus", or "not someone qualified to type me". This kind of thinking is common with inferior thinking types and Ti, as they don't want to take any kind of thought framework they haven't formulated themselves.
I think you're highly likely to be an ESFJ, or an ENTP. Both are 50/50 probability, if you are ENTP, you probably already knew you were that and you were just being trolly about being an INTJ.
This is the real power of NiTe nigga.
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>>83235434
>you like to maintain a certain consensus with people around you and you never go out of line with what other people say, which is indicative of Fe. You almost never give your true opinion on something
I would like to contest you on everything you've just said.

Because it's blatantly false.
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Which type is more suited for being married to an INFJ-T I wanna be that one
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>>83235446
Turbie might decide to be a bit edgy, but that's because he has that trollish tertiary Fe, I am almost 100% sure now he's some ENTP trollfag larping as INTJ to get a reaction out of people like me. My NiTe visions are undeniable.
Also you watch Hazbin Hotel which means you are in the "know" of consensus, Fe. Yup.
>>83235557
INFJ foids love ENTPs because of their retarded Fe.
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>>83235557
Turbie is an ENFP, so his best match is a ISTJ.
>>83235690
You do realize ENxP and INxJ are some of the worst matches, right? You don't pair introverted intuitives with extroverted intuitives. The same applies to all types, you don't match Si and Se.
The same dominant function with opposing attitudes is a shitshow. This sort of pairing doesn't work most of the time, they are extremely alien to each other and extremely antagonistic because of their different perspectives. It's like fire and water. Not a good match most of the time.

>Also you watch Hazbin Hotel which means you are in the "know" of consensus, Fe. Yup.
The hell does that even mean?
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I am definitely an Ni Dom.
I have the vision
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Si types also have the vision.
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>>83235888
That would mean everyone has the vision....
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>>83235756
I'm talking about turbie enjoyer, I dont know who the original turbie is. Whatever.
>You don't pair introverted intuitives with extroverted intuitives
It's just what I've seen. INFJ foids love faggy annoying ENTPs because women love annoying retards. They share Fe, that's good enough for them to connect.
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>>83235756
What about INTP AND INFJ?!?!
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>>83234720
There's a 60 percent chance that my life will basically be ruined. I'm not into gambling.
Also I wouldn't date transformed catgirls so the amount of women I could date wouldn't change. Even if was fine with dating them you didn't mention if their sexual orientation would change so most of them would still be into women.
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Heheh i had a vision
Whilst thinking with the thread open about my mom i would automatically refer to her as my women My Wife is coming Home Hahhaa you Fags are WEIRD
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>>83236119
Fe types hate Fe inferiors or Fe blinds. They cannot connect with them, they are far too autistic and unpredictable for them. Especially the Ne inf and Se inf types who are really cautious. ISFJs and INFJs do not pair well at all with INTPs, because they can smell out their terrible attempts at connection, it gives them the worst of icks, especially because INTPs are so nerdy and nerds by social conventions are not good.
This is why INTJs like me do so terribly with IXFJs, we cannot connect at all with our extroverted functions, though we do give less of an ick compared to INTPs.
>>83236147
You are Turbie Enjoyer, I can tell.
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>>83236202
This dude does not have the vision neither an Ni or an Si user
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>>83236207
what quote vision? you cant visually manifest an apple inside your head..
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>>83236069
BING BING BING BING!
The shadow projection is CLEAR.

Are you aware of what you just said here?
>>83236107
Yes, I'm aware of who you were talking about.

What I was saying is that INFJs aren't very attracted to ENxPs. It is a functionally non-working pair. It has, as a pair, a quite high potential, but a very low success rate because there's so much conflict between these types.
And when these types are attracted to each other, it's not because of "Fe". It's because they see something in the other person which they, themselves lack.
>>83236119
It's a decent pairing. It really depends on how flexible and willing to CHANGE the thinking type is. Since intuitive types, by their intuitive nature, seek change. If the thinking type is too rigid it can cause a friction between them and the INFJ and cause them to feel stifled.
But then it comes down to how they deal with that friction. It could be the type of friction that causes a paper to be sheered in half by scissors, or it could be the type of friction that holds a speeding car to the roadway.
>>83236202
No.
Just no.
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Somewhat, not somewhat, treading on the line of reality, the statement of deeming oneself to be the arbiter of The Sight, quite possibly, if not even... quite literally, disqualifies oneself from being.... the arbiter of sight.

It would be like the water in the ocean claiming itself to be the light which reflects upon it. A donkey declaring itself a lion, the turtle declaring itself a hare.
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>>83235756
>You don't pair introverted intuitives with extroverted intuitives
>>83236107
>It's just what I've seen

https://youtu.be/LOOYjdV2YNw?si=sJ5icxdKc4F8Jrhm
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>>83236718
>Con Scammer Joseph
[audible gagging]
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I like when CSJ goes on long rants about all the women he's slept with and how he knows about every personality type because he's slept with a woman from each of the 15 personalities (Minus ENTP he already knows all about them since he is one)
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>>83236754
>Dissing my boy Chad Sigma Joseph
You're just jealous of all the women he slept with
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>>83236255
>It's because they see something in the other person which they, themselves lack.
Something like what?
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I, for one, also really like that Con Scammer Joseph doesn't know jack shit about typology and just makes up a bunch of random nonsense
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Once upon a time /mbti/ was so cool and popular that CSJ was stealing this thread's research and selling it as his own and then everyone got pissed off and the smartest people left
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>>83236817
You mean like, specifically? I can't really do that, because it would require a specific person, and I'm speaking about generalities.
But, in general, it would be the other person acting out their opposing attitude. It would be something that one person would feel themselves incapable of doing, or is repressed in themselves. That sort of tension is what causes the attraction.

It's not exactly something that's easy to elaborate on in a general sense, because it deals in abstractions and require a lot of theoretical language, and an in depth explanation of what all the terms mean and specifically differentiating them from the common misconceptualizations.
And since most people operate through those misconceptualizations, using the terms will just lead to more confusions, due to incorrect definitions.
Soooo..
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>>83233126
>your type
INTP. probably!
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
the latter. what do i have to be thankful about?
>if you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
ENTP they can be really fun when chill
INTP because any good party has a clone of me
ENTJ because a good party needs at least two Es and i can't settle for less than xNTx
>Would you press a button that
Yes.
>Which type is more likely to say 'Meow'
Typical INFP stuff. Though maybe ENFP more in fact.
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
Hmm well I know an INFP who seems oddly INTP about certain things.
Though he acts gay as hell and moralfags a bunch so I suppose that puts the question to rest
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>>83236941
>It's not exactly something that's easy to elaborate on in a general sense, because it deals in abstractions and require a lot of theoretical language, and an in depth explanation of what all the terms mean and specifically differentiating them from the common misconceptualizations.
>And since most people operate through those misconceptualizations, using the terms will just lead to more confusions, due to incorrect definitions.
>Soooo..
I don't know what these big words you're using means but I like it. What type are you hypothetically? And what types would you say are good with enfp?
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>>83237175
>What type are you hypothetically?
Yes.
>And what types would you say are good with enfp?
I suppose that depends on what you mean by "good"?
I would define "good" as "offers the greatest potential for personal growth through maximum challenge."
Which would make ISTJ the best type for an ENFP.
It's min-maxed for risk reward. Maximum risk, maximum reward.
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>>83233126
>your type
INFP
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
Mmmmm idk
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
A sexy ESTJ, A goofy INTP(being sexy is a bonus too), and an open slot for a wildcard pick.
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
I don't think I'm that deep into brainrot yet to even consider this
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
XXFPs
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
Everyone who took only the letter typing system
Any suggestions for some good OTC drugs?
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>>83237407
My favorite OTC drug is water that shit is mega addicting, you'll literally die without it.
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>>83237469
They don't sell it at the pharmacy tho
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>>83237407
>Any suggestions for some good OTC drugs?
Really depends on the country but DXM is decent and available nearly everywhere. Do make sure to read up on it before taking it because you should always have knowledge about substances you are taking. As an example in my country the only form of DXM they sell is cough syrup which is laced with ridiculous amount of sorbitol and if you just down a bottle of it you will get the worst diarrhea of your life and vomit your guts out. This can be avoided by extracting the DXM.
P.S. Do not do deliriants.
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>>83237521
Shit they sell water everywhere! Get some in a bottle, pour it on the counter and slurp that shit right off it! Or lay on the ground and let it drizzle into your mouth!
Shits whack
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>>83237525
why no deliriants?
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Do you have any idea how delirious you can get on WATER??
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>>83237048
>>Would you press a button that
>Yes.
I like how intps don't even read what a button does they just press it
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Drink so much water you'll be ALIVE, shits CRAZY. You'll start seeing shapes and hearing sounds, then you go outside and see this big fucking fiery ball in the sky and think, what the FUCK IS THAT?
And then you look at the ground and it's made up of the CORPSES OF EVERYTHING THAT CAME BEFORE YOU
And that's metal as fuck, ya feel?
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>>83237563
mbti? i dont wanna oh nonononono
i want opposite of otc
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>>83237357
>ISTJ
Why this one over infj
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>>83237533
Because they aren't fun and with higher doses you completely lose touch with reality. Doing deliriants is basically like purposefully causing a bad hallucinogen trip but even worse.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Deliriant
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>>83237576
Opposite of OTC?
Under the counter? What's the opposite of a counter? The floor? Opposite of counter? Estimater? One who estimates?

Under the estimation? Under the estimation of....? Under the influence of estimation?
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>>83237586
how do u fix the losing touch part
thx
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I don't want to put anything into my body that I wouldn't feed to Turbie and I would never want Turbie to enter a state of drug induced delirium that's horrific!!!
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I will never do drugs because
1. Hallucinations are so scary
2. I want to live long enough to live past my human vessel
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Turbie to enter a state of drug induced delirium
That would be freaking awesome.
then you could push him around on a wheelchair withholding his benzos from him unless he gives you a kiss
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>mbti
>drugs youve tried
>trip experience
>mental health now?
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>>83237584
Because the chances of failure are the same, or roughly the same. But the chances of maximum growth are lower.

I can put it into terms of gambling to illustrate:
Would you rather play a game that has a 10% chance of winning 10x and everything else is a loss -100%,
Or a game that has a 11% chance of winning 5x, and everything else is a loss -100%?

It's also entirely possible that the INFJ would be more at odds with the ENFP. Fi is MORE opposed to Fe than Fe is to Ti.
Which would make your chances of failure higher, but the payout still lower.

Generally speaking, you want to minimize "bad" friction and maximize "good" friction.
Fe+Fi is bad friction. Ni+Ne is bad friction. This is sandpaper on an apple. It ruins the apple and the sandpaper. I don't want gritty sandpaper apples.
Fi+Te is good friction. This is a hot torch on some metal to make a dank ass new sculpture. Nice.
Ti+Ti is good friction. This is polishing a red delicious. Why? To throw it at the Fi-ggets. Obviously.
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>>83237686
You can't with deliriants. With lower doses you might be fine but deliriants really aren't recreational and I said don't do them for a reason. Just do other drugs.
If you are 'murican you guys have a shitton of legal drugs like kava, kratom, phenibut and so on. If you are northern european like me then you are basically limited to DXM unless you get illicit drugs.
I'm currently high as fuck on pregabalin myself. Lets just say that onion markets are where the fun is at.
>>83237732
Most drugs don't cause hallucinations.
>>83237750
>mbti
INTJ
>drugs youve tried
Too many to list. Basically tried every class of drug. I've stayed away from the harder drugs like meth and heroin tho. Not into stims in general and opioids are better than life so staying away from them.
>trip experience
Very experienced. Ketamine is my favorite.
>mental health now?
Better than before I started doing drugs. Funnily enough the only drug I've ever had any problems with is alcohol.
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>>83237785
No No No not on the deliriant, after the deliriant fucks you head up
How 2 fix??
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>>83237785
>pregabalin
My twinsie im on that for anxiety
My memory is so fucked up after 2 weeks though..
Benzos are my ultimate babe..
How does pregabilin high feel for you?? is it like valium?
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>>83237785
Most drugs also ruin your health
Except psilocybin has been shown to slow aging and improve health and also it's a hallucinatory
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>>83237818
Doesn't pregabalin and gabapentinoids make you go BALD? I'd like to try them but honestly I don't want the telogen effluvium that everyone seems to report. And the tolerance buildup that eventually makes your baseline anxiety worse than with it.
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>>83237754
>I can put it into terms of gambling to illustrate:
>Would you rather play a game that has a 10% chance of winning 10x and everything else is a loss -100%,
>Or a game that has a 11% chance of winning 5x, and everything else is a loss -100%?
5x because 5 is my favorite number and infj have better looking character and aura.
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is there any wizard here that gave gimmie anxiety advice please

i really need off benzos
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Wizard here:
Just stop caring about being anxious lol
(except unironically)
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>>83236339
>it would be like the water blah blah blah, or like blah blah blah or like blah blah blha
You sure are one no Te-haver are you, that kind of thinking makes you dangerously seem like some IXFP
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>>83233126
>>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
probably that turbie enjoyer guy, he seems to be ENTP acksually
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>>83237798
You've done deliriants and suffered the damage? Pretty sure only time will heal that. You could gamble with psychedelics but I say read up properly on anything you plan to do for a reason.
>>83237818
It's one of my favorite drugs but in general it's a hit or miss drug. Some people absolutely love it and some people think it's meh.
Pregabalin feels like a mix of benzos, opioids, weed and stims for me. Basically a clearheaded anxiety free high where I'm extremely productive and social and feel incredibly content and warm. Depends on the dose tho. I like to do 600-900mg for proper recreational effects but lower doses are perfect for anxiety and basically cure me.
It does somewhat resemble benzos but imo it's better because my mind is more clearer. Also benzo addiction is the addiction I'm most scared of after opioids so I don't even want them.
I haven't really had problems with memory so can't say much about that but if you are taking it daily it should improve over time.
>>83237833
No. Never heard of that and my hair is great after years of using it. If you use it recreationally only use it once or twice a week and you won't build real tolerance. With daily use most of the euphoric effects go away quite fast though. Works just fine for anxiety even with daily use in my experience. Your body will try to compensate and maintain equilibrium with every chemical but it really isn't a problem unless you take the chemical every day. Even with that if it's a medicine you need to better your quality of your life you should just go for it imo. You can always taper off if you are scared of withdrawals.
>>83237822
Addiction ruins your health but in general the best thing for your body is to not ingest any extra chemicals. Most psychedelics can offer some benefits, MDMA has shown some effect in treating PTSD and ketamine helps with depression and so on. The problem is that it's hard to properly research substances that are deemed illegal.
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>>83237925
If that were the case, then he'd be the least ENTP sounding ENTP of all time

Nah, he's some kind of INxJ
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>>83237937
Thx, you are very helpful. Ill up my dose with the doctor this week
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Nah, ya'll don't even know:
TE is an ESFJ.
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>>83237956
How much are you on currently? 300mg is the best dose for anxiety for me but you might be fine with a dose even lower than that. Keep in mind that upping the dose will increase the side effects at least temporarily.
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>>83238008
50mg
I do feel somewhat better like the veil between psychosis and reality is closing up, but get these strange existential psychosis-esc thoughts (that arent mine) running amok my mind. The world feels wrong everything feels wrong and every sense in my body sight touch feeling is trying to disconnect itself from reality. Benzos clear all of that up for me. i hope increasing the dose works thx
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>>83233126
>your type
INTP
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I'm thankful for things when they happen, I don't really give it a day.
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
ENTP, ISTP, ENFJ? Kind of chaotic but it has a lot of good vibes. I'm more describing my own friends so...
>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
No.
>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
ENFP?
>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
No? I don't really think most people around me care about MBTI
>drugs youve tried
Just some stuff. Shrooms, acid, weed. I was using morphine for a bit but I've kicked that habit thank god.
>trip experience
Acid just lasts a little too long for me to truly enjoy it. It just becomes a pain. Shrooms are great, my favourite. Well to be fair nothing really feels better than morphine but that's a different issue.
>mental health now?
I'm doing better than I was before but man do I need to cuddle or get headpats or something.
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>>83237976
Gemini 3 Pro:
Based on the MBTI Manual strategy, Turbie's Enjoyer is an ESFJ.

Dominant Fe (Extraverted Feeling): They act as the "Ruling General" of social harmony. Their stated goal is a dinner party "without fighting," and they validate everyone ("Hi ESFP-tan"). They even offer to mold their identity to fit a partner ("I wanna be that one"), a classic trait of high Fe adaptation.

Auxiliary Si (Introverted Sensing): This grounds their "cutesy" behavior. Their definition of gratitude is concrete and survivalist ("clean water"), not abstract. Their reaction to drugs is a visceral defense of bodily purity ("horrific"). Their singular devotion to "Turbie" reflects Si loyalty.

Tertiary Ne (Extraverted Intuition): This manifests as the "catgirl" aesthetic and chaotic emojis. It is playful but lacks the driving force of a dominant function.

Inferior Ti (Introverted Thinking): They cannot self-analyze. When challenged, they list every type and ask the external consensus to decide for them, proving a dependency on external logic.
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>>83238048
Every particle of my being is screaming at me, in a very loud, audible sense that ....
You know what?

Never mind.
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You know, one thing I absolutely abhor about the modern psyche?
Framing.
I fucking hate it.
I say "I don't believe in politics" and someone else says "that is political". Everyone attempts to shove everything into their narrow little frames that has been consumed by termites and cannot even hold a window anymore.
Useless, the lot of them.

Mathematics? Nothing but a flawed frame that can be disproved by its own rules.
1/0=? Whoops, frame dismantled.
Oh, but let's just redefine the entire ruleset so our frame doesn't collapse under its own weight and systematically make it impossible to refute from within the frame and from without the frame!
You can't disprove mathematics from within mathematics because the scammers have rewritten the rules to disallow disproof, and you can't disprove mathematics from without it because that's an ineligible disproof.
Fucking scams.
I hate modernity.
I hate the bleating sheep screaming at the herd master to tell them what to think.
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>>83238265
(>^_^)><(^_^<) you sound like you're not getting your daily does of hugs anon!!!
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>Just come, come, join the herd!
FUCK OFF, SHEEPLE.
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>>83238265
You are INTP
Thank me later
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>>83238305
I'll thank you right now, but refuse your categorization. Because, ultimately, it's irrelevant to type.
The world is built upon rotten frames, it's plain as day. At least, to anyone with eyes, and the will to stray from the comfort of the herd.
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>>83238334
Very INTP sentence
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>>83237950
I KNOW ITS YOU TURBIE ENJOYER. YOU CANNOT GET AWAY FROM MY NiTe
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>>83238386
How did you know I'm Turbie Enjoyer? Yes that's me. Also I like BBC and I want a tranny in my ass
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I lament the lofty laminated loofas leaving scratched surfaces safely secured to bathtubs, bubbling beneath the surface of the water, waiting, watching, wanting never finding anything more than time- often omens offer ocular assistance from the obscure occult easements endowing escalators elevating prime proboscises sniffing coke calmly chewing chaffed coins.
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>>83238334
>>83238265
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. you are bored and overthinking.. you want to collapse projections? meditate
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>Your type
>Would you take a pill that turns you into an extroverted version of your type?

I'm an INTP, and I'd take the ENTP pill in a heartbeat to be honest.
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Bored?
BORED?!
I'm not BORED, I'm FREE.
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>>83238435
>Your type
INTJ
>Would you take a pill that turns you into an extroverted version of your type?
Absolutely. Because then I'd mog the fuck out of people just like I've been wanting this whole time.
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>>83238435
ENTP isn't the extroverted type of INTP.
That would be ENTJ.

INTP is dominant thinking, ENTP is dominant intuition.
ENTJ is dominant thinking.
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Funny thing about changing your type-
You don't need a drug to do it.
You can just do it.

Tired of being who you are?
Just change.
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>>83238447
[[KRIS]]!! I GET IT NOW!!!!
THE REAL [[Freedumbs]] IS [[FRIENDSHIP]]!!
I'LL FINALLY BE A [[Real Boy!]]!!!
[[HEAVEN]], ARE YOU WATCHING? [[Here I come]]!!!!
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>>83238473
Well maybe so technically, but ignore that and just work within the imaginary constraints I have created. Would you?
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>>83238493
Not really. No matter how much I try to change, I find that I'm still an INTP at my core, something that is constantly reinforced by the world around me despite my efforts.
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>>83238498
How dare you insinuate that I am Kris.
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>>83238526
I was insinuating that you were Spamton, dummy
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>>83238524
>I can't
Suit yourself.

How's that old saying go?
You can lead a horse to new clothes, but you can't make him change.
Wait.. That's not right?
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>>83238562
I didn't say I can't. I tried as well
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iia I need o pee!!!
wecuse me!!
>>83238265
i usd 2 think in sync, similarly. Wels, mosly due 2 .. Otheworldye options . But outide the hoard is Th unknown.. Wolves. Dragons Even!!! Its to dangeros!
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>>83238992
Hi ENTJ Grindset guy
I'm European
Also I don't celebrate holidays
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>>83238992
>How's thanksgiving going for you guys?
Pleasant and filling; on my way to bed now.
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Thread sure is dead today
Someone come up with a question
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>>83239142
You know what I'll do it myself
>Type
>What's the most interesting thing you did today
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I kind of wonder, is the term "Lexical" and "Impressionistic" better terms for Thinking and Feeling or not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ndTCR4aKg
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>>83239419
You could fit those words to describe anything.
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>>83238066
This is the worst mbti reading I've ever received.
Gemini? More like icky
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>>83239580
Aww. The little sensoid is disappointed that he is not an INTJ. His Fe wants him to be so special.
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>>83239580
...you think gemini rhymes with icky?
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>>83239246
>Type
INTJ (100% True facts verified by reason and evidence)
>What's the most interesting thing you did today
I took out the trash !! ^_^
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>>83238599
>>83238599
>iia I need o pee!!!
>wecuse me!!
Hello Alice. You don't need permission to go potty from /mbti/ just make sure you get to the bathroom and use the toilet like a big girl :)
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>>83237862
Looking at this picture I'm probably an enfp cause all I wanna do is give hugs and kisses
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>>83238435
What do you mean an extroverted version of yourself? Like my Ni would become Ne? Or you mean like I would become more agreeable? Or maybe I would become more outgoing?
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>>83238386
Please take your medicine. I'm not every post in the thread >_<"
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>>83239658
No, I just meant the Exxx version of your type.
I don't mean your opposite functions, or else that'd implicate an entirely different type, and since your Introverted functions would become extroverted, that's not even the extroverted version of your type.

In this case, you are and INTJ, so you claim, so it would be ENTJ.
Vision First (Ni) -> Systematized for Reality (Te)
(They see the perfect future outcome, then build a plan to make it happen.)
ENTJ:
Structure First (Te) -> Guided by Strategy (Ni)
(They move to organize their environment immediately, using analysis to ensure the move is efficient.)
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>>83239705
So basically you'd turn from Walter White to Light Yagami
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>>83238066
pleas psyhcoanylis me next plaes3 doctor diagnosis!!
>>83238599
intp 5w4 semi?GOD
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>>83239728
Well, I'm not the one doing the psychoanalyzing. It's Gemini 3.

Also, I have so little to go off of you. I'd need more for an accurate description.

From the 2 posts however, consensus is INFP
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>>83239746
Thx
>>83239664
Tubie You have my Trip code triilogies You give Him
>>83239746
A QRD
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>Your type
Answer one or all of these questions:
>Are you hopeful for the future?
>Do you look forward to your future?
>Are you planning ahead for the future?
>What do you picture the future to be like?
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>Are you hopeful for the now?
>Do you look forward to your now?
>Are you planning ahead for the now?
>What do you picture the now to be like?
now
*snaps fingers*
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>>83239874
YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT!! YOU CANT JUST CHANGE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS TO BE ABOUT THE NOW!!
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I don't fucking understand Socionics....
So INFPs are more conscious of Se-Ti more than their Si-Te???? And that functions are beyyer understood as Blocks?
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>>83236815
Alright your got me. I want to rape his bussy into prolapse. Any tips?
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>>83238265
Maybe you should try reframing?
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I plan for the future it has Turbie in it.
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>>83239852
>>Your type
ESFP-T
>>Are you hopeful for the future?
Yes.
>>Do you look forward to your future?
I don't dread it, but I'm pretty happy in the now.
>>Are you planning ahead for the future?
Yes.
>>What do you picture the future to be like?
Similar to the current one but with a little less time devoted to work.
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>>83241017
Call me a master carpenter, cause I'll reframe u're're face. And make you a Chad, that way all the femcels succubus's wanna suck your dick off. But then you'll find being Chad is actually a lot of work, and you'll meet a little pixie who will guide you to a magical lamp, assuming you follow her guidance- where you'll make a wish to become an incel again, and as you transform back, you'll look at the pixie and she will have your own face.
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>>83240334
Don't try to understand memeonics, it's a LITERAL meme. If you want to understand typology, start reading Jung.
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>>83242314
>If you want to understand typology, start reading Jung.
when do i finish
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>>83242350
>When do I cum!?
Never. You'll be edging for the rest of your life.
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>>83242360
>Never. You'll be edging for the rest of your life.
A cock cage for every male reggie a whip for ever foid
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Get your sick fetishism out of here >:0
Men in skirts is not okay unless you're scottish
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You might want to take a second take of Turbie then:
That's a man in a skirt.
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>>83242446
Why should he care? Turbie Enjoyer is a man in a dress as well.
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He did say men in skirts aren't okay.
That's why,
Goober.
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1) Turbie is a girl!
2) she just likes femmie boys like astofol
3) what me and my turbie do in the privacy of our bedroom is not your concern ^w^
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>>83242314
If you want to learn mbti you should start with csj and then transition into 16p. Jung is a rooker mistake
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>Cum Sucker Joseph
>*audible gagging*
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>>83233126
>>your type
INTP
>>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I was working on drinking myself to death but then it started working. Not sure where to go from here.
>>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
Random selection in hopes it would be funny or at least interesting.
>>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
Yes, but only because I think it would be funny.
>>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
That's our word. You're not allowed to say it.
>>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
One test rule.
Not one single person is mistyped.
If your favorite dead author or Harry Potter character didn't take your fake horoscope test, they are untyped.
Fuck you.
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>>83242665
>Not one single person is mistyped.
Ew.
Ew.
Ew.
EW.
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This dude says "Officer I'm 100% innocent I caught that lopunny on accident"
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Imagine not catching a Charizard.
Pff. weak.
PSH. LOPUNNY?
PFFFFSHH!
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>>83239705
An extroverted version of your type would be the opposite of your main function.
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>>83239705
>Systematized for Reality (Te)
>(They see the perfect future outcome, then build a plan to make it happen.)
>Guided by Strategy (Ni)
Somebody kill me please.
END MY SUFFERING.
END THIS ETERNAL SUFFERING!
CAST MY ASHES INTO A PIT OF LAVA AND CAST MY SOUL INTO THE PITS OF HELL FOR AN ETERNITY, FOR EVEN THAT WOULD BE BLISS COMPARED TO THIS
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>>83244070
Common TeNi/NiTe blogpost
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Common?
PUH-lease.
If what I wrote was common, then may God help us all, because that would mean...
That the collective shadow has erupted through the floorboard of the psyche and is now blogposting in collective tongues of fire.
What you witness is a protest of the commoners tendency to flatten and reduce, not a product of it.

Don't confuse the smoke for the fire.
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>>83244141
Basically you're fired for smoking
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Smoking??
SMOKIN' HAWT maybe.
Archetypically speaking, that is.
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> your type
>which type is smoking hawt?
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>>83237357
>I would define "good" as "offers the greatest potential for personal growth through maximum challenge."
>Which would make ISTJ the best type for an ENFP.
I think you are wrong. Complete Opposites do not attract.
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>>83233126

>your type

i dont know/care if intp or infp

>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?

none because i dont really like anyone

>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?

yes

>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?

many people...maybe

>>83238435

no because i already feel like i am an extrovert and dont know it.

>>83239852

>Are you hopeful for the future?

no

>Do you look forward to your future?

no

>Are you planning ahead for the future?

no

>What do you picture the future to be like?

idk
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>>83245015

>which type is smoking hawt?

its intj, TE. ;-)
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>>83245669
Owo
What nice digital numbers you have ther3 sexiod
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>>83245566
>Complete opposites do not attract
I would like to introduce to you some fundamental objective proof which blows out your frame completely:
Magnets with polar opposite poles.
Water and salt being magnetically attracted.
Men being attracted to women.
Darkness attracts light.
The vacuum attracts matter.

Like does not attract like. Like repels like. Get two magnets and flip them so their positive poles are facing each other, what happens?
You can believe I'm wrong, that's fine. But it's a matter of fact, not opinion. The stronger the tension between opposites, the greater the magnetic attraction.
Which is just a way of saying complete opposites have the strongest attraction.
Your frame is narrow and overly reductionist.

You are, as one might say, archetypally blind. One needs not to reference the abstracts of the psyche to disprove your bogus claim, it's clearly observable in the objective universe.
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> Your type
Virgins like me
I am also gay btw
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If I was to reference an abstraction that also disproves the claim that opposites do not attract, I'd reference good and evil.
One of the most archetypally significant abstractions there could be. And what happens when these two forces meet? They are not repelled, they do not ignore each other. They are attracted, they're forced to meet face to face by some larger archetypal principle that is unignorable and undenyable.
Why does good combat evil, why are these forces attracted when they're polar opposites?

Simple, the opposition attracts the other side. These two forces cannot help but attract one another, and it's the same principle that makes an extrovert adopt the quite little introvert sitting in the corner by themselves.
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People who refuse to acknowledge that opposites attract are afraid.
They're afraid of... the big freeze. Integration. Death. The End.

You can see this in old couples who've been together for a long time, one was hot like fire, the other cold like water, and over time the water warmed up, the fire cooled down. The two forces integrated each other, they became each other. They became one. The big freeze. All the energy has been integrated, everything is the same temperature.
Just like the universe. Eventually, the vacuous void will attract all the matter, gravity will be uniform. There will be no more planets, no more stars, no more heat, no more cold. The tension has been resolved, there are no more waves, no more up, no more down.

But, what happens to the old couple? One dies, and the balance is overthrown. Nothing lasts forever, especially not balance. The force that keeps everything balanced will to one day run out of energy, devolving into opposing forces which need each other to resolve themselves.

Life is fragile. But, the only thing more fragile are the constructs which keep it afloat. Tinker with them at your own peril, for if you drop Sulphur into water, what awaits beyond the doorway might not be to your liking.
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How come every self proclaimed INTP's i've met (irl) is into touhou and/or some vtuber?
What is it about touhou that attracts intps?
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>>83245765
Magnets are not people. People with completely different personalities and views do not attract.
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>>83246027
its actually just normal normalfag shit in general
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>>83246035
Magnets are not people.
But people are magnets.

Do you not understand the concept of a principle and how principles can be articulated through metaphorical concepts, such as using a planet to explain angular momentum and then extrapolating that to a human ballerina?
Sure, the ballerina isn't a planet, but she's still acted upon by the same force which produces the law of angular momentum.
If people with polar opposite personalities and views do not attract, why do they fight?
Because they are attracted.
Your frame is instantly dismantled with a single example. Nothing more than a house of cards being toppled by a toddler briskly walking past.
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>>83246027
Probably they're actually girls! So it's okay to be autistic
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Shut the fuck up about opposites attract. I'm trying my best to forget a sexy ESTJ beast in my life and you're making it harder for me.
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>Trying my best to forget
>FORGET!?
REPRESSION!?
NOT IN MY ARCHETYPAL JUNGIAN THREAD. Do not make me cast the archetypal fishing line into your own unconscious and fish that bish up with all the chains and weights attached.

We gonna dine on archetypal sushi tonight, we gonna integrate that BITCH into the psyche
We bouta slap some archetypal RICE and seaweed on that bitch,
and bing bang bop
Make a MEAL
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Theyre talking about turbies enjoyer in another thread.
What did you do TE?
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>>83246737
What which thread is that?
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Hello guys {-__-}
I've been hearing the rumors, and yes, I am MtF. No need to say it any more, I've already said it before. Over and out -.-
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>>83246866
You can thank me later, false idol worshiper. >>83246206
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I'm not a lolcow I'm just an underpaid comedian
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Lel so that's what the anon who posted class of '09 was saying
makes sense
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Hey, TE, do you believe we live in a fallen world...?
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Maybe not fallen, but defintely falling. There is still good out there though
>>
I ask this not as a "Hah! Gotcha!" question, but as a genuine point of contention:

If the world is fallen, or falling, did God not set the world up to fall?
God created The Garden with a tree, a tree with an apple.
Now, you may not understand this, but that implies that "sin" was inherently baked into The Garden. The mere fact that the apple was able to be consumed, and that Adam and Eve had the bodily functions to consume it means that the fallen or falling nature of the Universe is well, nature- inherent. Created by God, not by man.

How is it possible that a perfect world, created by a perfect God, was sullied by perfect beings? Where did this sin arise, if not from God, himself?
How is it that you are not a Gnostic when you say the world is fallen/falling? How does a perfect being created an imperfect world? How is it that your God is not the Demiurge wearing a pure white mask, promising that he's not the Demiurge?

>"I made this totally perfect world, it's *YOU* that ruined it!"
-God

The fuck?
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You sure to spend a lot of time worried about how bad of a job you think Father did on the world.
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Do you guys do this thing where when you're watching a new show you immediately go on personality database to see how people have categorized the characters
It's just a brain itch for me idk

Also I'm quite surprised at how much characters get typed as sensoids
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>>83246171
You like to argue a lot. ENTP.
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>>83233722
I'm confused now. Are you a gay, a tranny or a foid?

A foid does not post anime pictures like this. She posts Hatsune Miku and Possum.
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>>83248233
That's a straight foid... There are more than one type of foid you're thinking of the middle america foids she's a coast foid
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>>83248476
Ok but the anime pictures have HUGE male autist sperg energy though.
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>>83248484
Plus, need I mention the crypto investing?
Guys investing in crypto? I've heard of that.
Trannies as well.
If I had a penny for everytime I heard of a woman that invests in crypto? I'd have a negative net worth.
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>>83248233
Well I'm girl here's a torso pic from couple months ago. As far as melascula, I thought she looked funny and smug plus I see it as a metaphor. As far as Hatsune Miku (hot take incoming) I don't like vocaloid that much (sorry, sue me, I do like some songs though popipo is fun).
Anyways melascula is what I'm know for here, so it's not like I can change it to Kuromi or something. Although maybe I will change it to kuromi.
>>83248476
>That's a straight foid
I almost fell into the feminist to pooner pipe line when I was younger.
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>>83248493
I'm dumbfounded. I did not know such women existed.
You learn something new everyday.
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>>83248233
Im a tranny who likes Miku. Konichiwhaaaaat
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This ESTJ Girl is so erotic how do I get over her
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Bump before thread dies
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>>83249716
I was trying to kill it by answering a bunch of old threads and you ruined my good work

I guess I'll have to wait for new questions some more
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>>83249743
This thread is saving lives.
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>>83249767
>This thread is saving lives
Lol wdym
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>>83248501
>I'm dumbfounded. I did not know women existed.
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Bump yet again before it dies.
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>>83249790
Everytime I open mbti i think wow I'm saved
thank (You)
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https://youtube.com/shorts/WTRolrUCKOc?si=icrtrD0lgXpbYUq2

One of these children is an INTJ and one is an INFP
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>>83247984
Worried? What a silly way to dismiss something. My meditations illuminated a key to me. I figured I'd ask you about it, because, as far as I can tell you're a pretty good representation of the "average Christian".
But your response reveals.... something unfortunate. To say the least.

But, I don't think God did a bad job, you do. You believe the world is fallen/falling. Not me.
I was merely following your belief to its rational conclusion. If the world is flawed, fallen/falling, who made it that way?

And the fact that you can't answer that question, well...
Let's just say it points to the fact that you're unwilling to acknowledge your "Christianity" is just Gnosticism wearing a Sunday white mask.
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>>83250831
>your "Christianity" is just Gnosticism
You might be retarded, perhaps more than TE, who is also mentally ill
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>>83250900
Umbrella Swiss cheese.
I'm as stable as a cheery tree
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turbei enjoyer mental illness severity 8/10 retardation severity 7/10
infj a mental illness severity 7/10 retardation severity 9.9/10 (he still growing his powers)
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>>83250900
Would you like to elaborate on how I am wrong?

I can show you the precise logical chain which points to my claim. Can you? Or is it just "Wah I don't like what you say, so you're retarded!"
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>>83250910
Yes, this is accurate enough
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>>83250918
Would you like to elaborate on how is this accurate enough?

I can show you the precise logical chain which points to that it isn't. Can you? Or is it just "Wah I like what you say, so you're accurate enough!"
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Don't fuckin' mock me you goombus binkus!
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>>83250909
Would you like to elaborate on how you're stable?

I can show you the precise logical chain which points to your instability. Can you? Or is it just "Wah I don't like what you say, so I'm stable!"
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>>83248501
Would you like to elaborate on how women exist?

I can show you the precise logical chain which points to that they don't. Can you? Or is it just "Wah I don't like a sausage party, so women exist!"
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>No, I actually CAN'T elaborate on how you're wrong!
Lel goombus binkus at it again making a fool of himself
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>>83250993
>precise
>chain
>instability
Show me >:(
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>>83251221
Goobus binkus won't show you his proof until you answer my questions!
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>>83250831
>wearing a Sunday white mask.
I keep Sabbath...
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Your questions are not worth answering because you're arguing ghosts in your head and painting me with them. Sadly ingfj0 you're demon possessed T_T only Christ can save you, and not the "Archetype of christ" in your mind, but the Savior who died on the cross. Repent, turn towards the light. Halleluyah you're already healed, it's just up to you to accept the gift.
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It's not worth answering, because you know the moment you think about it for 2 second, your entire world view falls apart.
There's a reason why thinking for oneself has always been treated as heresy.

>God, a perfect being, creates a percfet world
>World breaks
Explain how this is in anyway whatsoever, coherent?

How is it that the Christian teachings teach that the body is corrupt, and the desires are corrupt, the flesh is corrupt, the world is corrupt, and the only way to salvation is to escape the body?
THAT'S GNOSTICISM WITH PRETTY LITTLE RAINBOWS PAINTED ON IT.
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Like, literally, how does a perfectly purely all good God create a flawed, corrupt evil world?
HOW?

The answer is easy:
Your God is the Demiurge wearing a mask of pure white to convince you he's all good, and that really, REALLY, you're the problem. You're the reason the world broke. It's YOUR corrupt body that did it. If it wasn't for YOU this world would have been perfect.
But, don't worry, he REALLY loves you, even though he blames you for everything wrong in the world. You just have to say sorry for existing the way he created you, and really mean it.

And if you don't mean it, he'll send you to his other botched creation.
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>>83251360
>the only way to salvation is to escape the body?
>THAT'S GNOSTICISM
No. lol.
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>how does perfection create a flawed evil world!!!
>The answer is easy it's blasphemy
lol okay buddy.
Free will exists, you can choose to disobey the law or obey the law. By choosing to disobey the law you are evil. That free will is where evil comes from because Father made us in His image, capable of choosing freely whether to be good or evil.

You hate Him at your own peril.
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For the record, I do not condone TE's retardation.
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>>83251488
The fuck? Do you know what Gnosis is? It's the knowledge that liberates the soul from the physical realm.
Quite literally, escaping the flawed prison that is the physical body imposed upon the soul by the Demiurge.
>>83251515
>That free will is where evil comes from because Father made us in His image
Oh, so you admit, God isn't purely good? He made us in his image, and his image contains the evil?
We are capable of choosing evil, because God is capable of doing evil. I get it.

And the reason we broke the world is because God made an imperfect world designed by an imperfect creator who had the capability of failure. Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.
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If I make a law that says "Murder is wrong" and my child goes and kills someone that does make me or my law wrong.
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Reminder how to deal with narcs
>Yes
>No
>Okay
>Sure :)
Keep things short and tight, don't argue, don't engage.
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I am an INTJ and thereby I enjoy clean directives. Sadly, there is a mammoth being that has permeated my inner dreams. And I cannot stop vomiting.
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>>83251560
If you're also a murderer and a hypocrite, yes.

>Moving the goalpost
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>>83251546
>>83251515
Two INTP with Asperger's
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>>83233203
>There was a fake Turbie Enjoyer in the end of thread yesterday and they tricked people even though I have a tripcode now T_T"
Sure :)
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>>83251573
Just because they're retarded doesn't mean they're intp spergs, buddy
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>>83251598
Don't call me buddy nigger
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>>83251573
yeah wtf. they either obsess on dumb shit or do fe grip things
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>>83251568
Are you the INTJ with vulnerable narcissism?
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that's every intj lmao
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>>83251598
If I'm retarded, offer your evidence for your claim.
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>>83251676
Or what? Dumb retard
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>>83251684
Or I win, and you're actually retarded, obviously. :^)
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>>83251705
Sure :) Dumb retard
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>>83251711
Cite your source, please!
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>>83251567
thanks but there's no narcs here
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i want to kill myself
939192
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>>83251741
>thanks but there's no narcs here
Sure :)
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>>83251781
(>^_^)><(^_^<) Don't do that
Your life matters!!!
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>>83251796
i will prove it doesnt by becoming a monster!
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>>83251873
You will be the monster in the hero's story.
Without you, what would the hero do?
That's the definition of matter.
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>>83251878
once i am dead i will no longer matter!
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>>83251927
You're proving my point, your death will be the stepping stone for the hero. Do you think Hitler was meaningless, pointless, and didn't matter?
No.
He was the steppingstone for the hero's of the story. Without him there would've been no conflict. Without the goblins in the cave who kidnap the young princess, the adventurer's don't have a quest.

There is no escape. You will matter.
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>>83251956
did the bjork stalker matter in any way besides in the sense he was an example of a mentally ill young man?
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my brain is thinking. i like to call that... brain thoughts!
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>>83251956
>Hitler was meaningless, pointless, and didn't matter?
Yes. lol.
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>>83251956
>He was the steppingstone for the hero's of the story.
The neonazis!
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>>83251640
There is nothing vulnerable about my form.
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>>83251978
Of course he did. Every "villain" every "monster" matters. Everything matters. There's no changing it.
There's a reason we call matter... matter. Because it matters. No matter how hard you try to ignore it.
>>83252029
Ok. lol.
>>83252038
I don't think the Palestinians had anything to do with Nazi Germany, what are you talking about?
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>>83252082
death is transcending matter and thus once you die you no longer matter. you become nobody (no body)
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>>83252100
Death does not transcend matter. The matter does not disintegrate, the energy which held it together does not disintegrate. Matter cannot be destroyed, nor can energy.

The meaning and matter persist, although your own consciousness of it (arguably) may not.
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>>83252100
and becoming a monster really just means becoming the walking dead. your fate is sealed. like holding up a big "please kill me and then forget me" sign.
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>>83252146
once you are forgotten you no longer exist. the only things that exist are the ones that we are aware that they do
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True introversion isn't about being reclusive, it's about being arbitrary. Extroversion is taking things as is. Including Intuition.
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>>83252158
You cannot be forgotten. Matter remembers, the energy remembers. Forever.
There are energies that transcend your conscious awareness that will never ever in a billion trillion gazillionillion godzillaion years, forget you.
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>>83252180
that doesnt matter if i dont believe it, though, does it?
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In this mythopoetic stage we call the universe, a play is unfolding, after each act, when the curtains close, the audience remains, watching. Ever so vigilantly as to not miss the next opening scene, which goes by in the blink of an eye.
The watchers watch, because they watch.
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>>83252222
sounds like torture, nice quads btw
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>>83252205
If you had the ability to decide that, sure. You'd be right.
But you don't. You can't decide all of matter away. Even a bullet in your skull won't do that.

But, of course, you also don't believe that. Because here you are tika takin' away on your keyboard made of matter, in your body, made of matter, with your screen, made of matter.

>"I want off this ride, Mister Bones!"
He screamed into the vast, empty void.
>"You're here forever, kiddo."
Echoed the void, with a grin worn on his words.
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any INTP schizoids here?
i took the test got INTP, AND i firmly believe that im schizoid. Highly introverted, i dont enjoy socializing, though certainly i can tolerate being on the internet for the thought-exchange..

Worst thing about this situation is that soon i have to get a job and that's gonna force me to get out of my shell
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>>83252235
It's only torture if you take yourself too seriously and forget that you're just playing a role in a play. You're just a character on a stage.
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>>83252258
what "matters" is subjective, dependant on context

some things matter less than others, though this depends on context

but honestly, i think we are like insects
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>>83252271
Peak inferior Fi post
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>>83252268
i recall max from mary and max being intp
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>>83252280
Nah inf Fi would go snowflake mode. This is inf Fe where Fi is completely ignored by default
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>>83252276
What matters is objective. Matter is, quite literally, by definition, objective.
Objects are made of matter.

You don't get to "decide" through subjective terms what matters. You just don't. You operate within the Universes rules, not the other way around.
Very, very little is subjective. So little of the world is subjective, we may as well call it zero. But that would be unfair, because the subjective does exist. So, I won't do that.

Your experience is subjective, that's it.
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>>83252323
Does Jesus matter?
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>>83252323
>You don't get to "decide" through subjective terms what matters.
That doesn't matter though.
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>>83252268
How does a schizoid INTP differ internally from a healthy INTP?
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>>83252329
Obviously, Jesus both mattered and matters.
I would never claim otherwise.
>>83252341
But, surely, you must see the flaw in your presentation...?
I can just do the same thing to you and say, well that doesn't matter.

Subjectivity is not the golden standard. Matter is larger than you.
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>>83252381
>Matter is larger than you.
Fatties don't matter.
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>>83252381
so he physically existed to you, but to some he didnt, this makes it subjective or at least something that is debated to this day. youre kind of boring.
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>>83252397
>youre kind of boring.
Who do you think you are to complain about free clowns?
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>>83252391
Irrefutable Trvth Nvke.
>>83252397
I didn't say he existed. I said he mattered and still matters, I phrased it this way to specifically highlight that his material existence is irrelevant.
Even still, it's not subjective.

Even if Jesus was nothing more than a character in a story, Jesus, the character represents something real and objective. Therefore his real existence is irrelevant.
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>>83252455
you are irrelevant because you are boring. therefore, nothing you say matters. its over.
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>>83233126
>your type
big booty latinas obviously
>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
only when im around dem tings
>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
2 big booty latinas and a stripper
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>>83252466
Sorry, bucko, the world is not subjective. You don't decide what matters, little Marxist cub.
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Your self-proclaimed disbelief in matter does not banish my words, they still exist, as a matter of fact.
Which, ironicomically, disproves your proclamation that what I say does not matter and proves that you don't get to decide what matters.

Funny how that works.
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>5w4 sx sp inxp
>tfw utterly useless and a failure
>friends growing up all have successful well paying and meaningful careers
>meanwhile I had to quit a grocery cashier job bc the anxiety made me start crying multiple times and have panic attacks
>tfw early mid 30s, neet, living with family, no degree, spotty employment history due to mental illnesses and substance abuse
>nothing to show for any of it other than a working knowledge of modern therapy
>want to be a writer or gamedev
>trying to work on a visual novel but can't even do that the overwhelming majority of days
>just an absolutely useless parasitic failure piece of shit
any other anons know how to escape this suffering other than suicide
or is it just inevitable given what I am
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>>83252514
The answer is staring you in the face, you just refuse to acknowledge it:

Change.
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>>83252486
your takes are closer to marxism than any snowflakery you seethe about. you're really retarded
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>>83252543
I've tried changing
I've done therapy, I've done rehab, I've worked different jobs, I've lived in different places, I've lived on my own and I've lived with family, I've exercised and not, I've changed what I eat, etc and ultimately everything falls apart
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>>83252514
sx/sp? there's your problem. sp/sx is really the superior position
>t. sp/sx
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>>83252550
What a very strange thing to say. What I say is the very anthesis of Marxism.
Marx did the very ego centric thing of trying to impose human order on the universe, and called that order "objective". From the Marxist perspective, subjectivity is objective. It's a complete script inversion.
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>>83252564
>and ultimately everything falls apart
You're pointing to something, which you've already explicitly stated:
>or is it just inevitable given what I am

You don't really try. You "try", but you know it's going to fail, so you don't really try. And you knew it was going to fail, so when it fails because you didn't try hard enough, that justifies your lack of a real attempt.

CHANGE. Stop trying, start doing.
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>>83252619
>real objectivity has never been tried before!
ok marx junior
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>>83233126
>>your type
INFJ-T!!! ^_^;
>>are you thankful all the time or only a few times a year
I'm grateful much of the time! ^w^
>>If you were having a holiday dinner party what 3 types would you invite? Why?
INTJ-T, INTP-T, INFP-T! So we could have a bunch of all INXX-Ts! ^o^
>>Would you press a button that turned 60% of the men into cat girls and 40% of the women into amazonian alpha girls?
No! The standards for me would go too high! ;.;
>>Which type is most likely to say 'Meow'
INFJ-T! ^w^ Meow :3
>>is there anyone you know who you are sure is mistyped, but they don't know it?
No! ^_^
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>>83253077
My Turbie!! ^_^
(>^_^)><(^_^<) Mwah

Your dinner party sounds Turbulent!! I bet someone is gonna cry :3
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>>83252968
You goober. Objectivity has been tried, it's called philosophical materialism. Which is not what Marx proposed.

The Marxist idea of subjectivity is, well, blatantly put, not subjective. The Marxist belief is that the subjective is directly created and influenced by the objective.
Or, to put it into understandable terms, "the world made me this way". That is the modern equivalent of Marxism. Your subjective experience was created by your objective position in the world, and that your subjective world is not "yours" it is owned and created by "the world". The majority of incels are Marxist, even without knowing it. They unconscious espouse his beliefs, because they were trained to do so.
You could call it Marxist determinism.

My position directly contradicts this. It's the polar opposite. The subjective is not created by the objective. They are equal, they exist in tandem, dependent on one another.
Or, to put it into clear words:

The world didn't make you like that,
You made you like that.
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>>83252353
i dont know. maybe even healthy INTPs exhibit schizoid traits, maybe INTP and schizoid are somewhat synonymous. How often are INTPs social? they may be social at work or what not but in general i'd like to think many INTPs are chronically lonely. Although, some INTPs may be very well socially adapted and do not really truly distinguish themselves from other types in this manner.
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>>83253077
>The standards for me would go too high! ;.;
wdym? how?
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>>83252647
that's not true at all, I always give it my hardest effort. I show up to rehab or therapy and make sure to engage sincerely and frequently. I just say that it ultimately is that things fall apart is because that is the pattern that exists. I try as hard as I can, they are real attempts. I don't make excuses, I don't forgo opportunities because I don't think they'll work out, I give everything a try and yet even then I can't find a way to sustainably maintain independence and success
it's like telling someone with no legs to run
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>>83253401
the average infj is dumber than you think...
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>>83253408
stop being sx/sp and put self-preservation first you dirty pervert nigger
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>>83253418
idk how reeeeeee
if I'm able to live as I am, on disability and living with family, idk why I would put myself through the massive stress of working when it's not necessary
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>>83253408
You show up and give your best effort, until....? You give up?
>that is the pattern that exists
The pattern of what? The pattern of your own behaviors that you refuse to change?
>it's like telling someone with no legs to run
>I don't make excuses
Wow. I cannot believe you just did that. What are these metaphorical legs that you lack, and how is this not the biggest excuse in the world? Because you do not lack these metaphorical legs.
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don't give up and just magically do something that will fix everything is okay advice but it's funny to read from someone who is too piss-scared to attempt stopping being a fucking retard
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as they say

the advice you give is the advice you fail to use
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Who is invoking magic? There is no magic required, you just do it.
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>>83253456
>until....? You give up?
until the weight of mental illness exceeds my ability to manage both it and work
>The pattern of your own behaviors that you refuse to change?
it's just what's happened. I have changed numerous things between each iteration, to varying degrees of efficacy
>Wow. I cannot believe you just did that. What are these metaphorical legs that you lack, and how is this not the biggest excuse in the world? Because you do not lack these metaphorical legs.
maybe that wasn't a great example. it's more like trying to carry weight that gets heavier and heavier with every step, and in order to make the weight tolerable again I have to put down the weight of employment in order to focus on the mentally ill weight, because I simply cannot carry both at once, past a certain point. I've tried all sorts of things to try and change how those two interact. I've worked different types of jobs, different hours, working less, incorporating mentally healthy activities on my off days, leaving work early when I stop being able to handle it, etc. I just haven't figured out what to change or how to change it that would allow me to be able to carry and manage both the weights at the same time
I don't think you've ever struggled with actual mental illness if your "insight" is to just try harder. there is a limit to how much someone can try
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>>83253401
If Turbie is a male, he needs to work harder to get a gf because many women are now alphas, who expect a lot of men.
If Turbie is a female, she needs to work harder to get a bf because there are so many women competing for so few men.
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>>83253524
What if Turbie is trans
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>>83253441
then just dont dumbass. things are quite simple really, ffs!
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>>83253519
>I don't think you've ever struggled with actual mental illness if your "insight" is to just try harder
yes, you're talking to a retard overdosed on peterson and zero practical therapists
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>>83253519
>until the weight of mental illness exceeds my ability to manage both it and work
So, yes. You give up. No need to obscure the truth behind fluffed up words. It's okay to give up sometimes, own it. Stop trying to hide it from yourself like there's something wrong with it.

You are conflating your own mental resistance to change as mental illness. The fact of the matter is, quite blatantly, you don't want to change. And you even illustrated it extremely clearly here:
>it's more like trying to carry weight that gets heavier and heavier with every step
What is being said here? You don't want to carry the weight. You don't want to deal with the burden. You don't want to deal with the discomfort. You don't want to change.

So the question is, WHY? Why are you so adverse, and so resistant to the idea of changing yourself and going through the discomfort of carrying that weight?
What aspect of yourself is telling that this ordeal isn't worth it? What is your motivation to stay where you're at and refuse the challenge of change?

>I don't think you've ever struggled with actual mental illness if your "insight" is to just try harder
What is the alternative to try harder? Seriously. There's two options, try more or try less. If you want to get to the top of a mountain, do you try more or try less?
Which gets you to the top?
You get half way up the mountain and it starts getting hard, what do you do?
Do you try less, and make it even harder? This will surely work if you don't want to reach the top.
Or do you try more?
Seriously. Think about what you're saying.

>there is a limit to how much someone can try
Sure. But how does one break a limit? Today you can only run a mile. Do you give up and try to run a mile ever again because that's your limit? Or do you push yourself to run 2 miles next week?

Can you see the problem in your framing? Can you see how your own framing is holding you back? Can you see that the problem is your own perspective?
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If you don't want to carry heavy things cause it hurts. Fine.
But own that shit. YOU are the one doing this.
There's no need to conjure up some magical force that's preventing you.
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The fact of the matter is that some aspect of yourself that you are unable, unwilling, or both, to acknowledge wants you to stay that way.

If you want to change consciously, you HAVE to acknowledge that unconscious motivation to stay the same. Otherwise, it will always, always, always pull you back into the same routine, the same behaviors which lead you to suffer. And you will call this fate.
There is no way around this. There is no short cut. There is no safe route which avoids the pain. There is no pretending this motivation doesn't exist within you, because your actions will tell the story.

You can't stop doing drugs if you don't confront the desire to drugs. The desire won't go away on its own if you just change the behavior. If you put the drugs down and walk away, the desire remains. This is a rule, a law of the psyche, it applies to all aspects of your life.
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>>83253456
What's the biggest mental block you had to deal with in your life, and how have you dealt with it?
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>>83253617
Just carry heavy things for absolutely zero reason.
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>>83253713
literally don't even be sarcastic with the retard. he's putting himself through humiliation but still not getting smarter
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>>83252268
King Crimson is a banger band. I love It is for you, But not for us.

And while budget David Goggins over there is typing up a storm saying literally the same shit over and over, I'll let you know what worked for me.
The best thing that worked for me is to try to get the steps to whatever I want to get done written down. I think you said something about making a story or a game so that could be something.
Honestly, just writing things down with pen and paper has helped a lot. Don't type it out or anything, I'd get the big sized post it notes and write the task as a label at the top.
For me, I was making a guitar overdrive pedal for a fren so I write Pedal at the top. I'll find a model of pedal or diy kit that has instructions and start from there. I'll start thinking of what I need in a general sense. So, electrical parts like resistors and different connectors, a pcb, the case. And as I order and get the parts I'll start checking it off.
I'm always horrible at working on big tasks so I break em down. I know that's the easiest advice ever but like whenever I had to write essays or something like that it was infinitely easier to do it piecemeal. You don't need to finish any project the moment you started it, small bits of progress is fantastic. Lego kits have thousands of pieces in em but autistic children, autistic manchildren, and normal men are all capable of making em. Even if some of em are barely capable of breathing and wiping their own ass. One piece at a time.
Writing notes helped out for me when I was getting off morphine too. I pretty much chose a mantra, I know fucking cringe but I was in a really bad spot. Real simple just "No Fucking Drugs." Write it down and draw a box next to it, check it off at the end of the night. Write a new note every day. Rinse, Repeat, Retarded.
Idk guess it mentally was kind of like a contract or something.
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>>83253705
Biggest? That's hard to conceptualize. Because every day seems to be a bigger hurdle than the previous.

If I had to narrow it down to something approximating concrete, it would be finding purpose. Purpose is scary, everything else seems to be smaller than it and depend on it. And there are lots of reasons to resist purpose.
People often think you can't resist fate, but, you most certainly can.

I can't really explain how I've dealt with it because I still am. But, if I had to put it into words... staring into the void. There is no other option. It's either look for something, or despair over nothing.
>>83253713
Zero reason?
How about to be happy. That's a good reason if you ask me.
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At some point in life, you have to take a leap of fate and step into the empty void. You have to risk falling. You have to place your life into the hands of the Universe and have faith that it's listening and watching and has placed a floor there for you to step on.

There.... just isn't another option.
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>>83253775
How come your "throwing shit at the void wall until a purpose sticks" approach involves trying to take some high moral ground or posturing against anyone who doesn't praise you?
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>>83253809
please fuck off you fake deep faggot
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>>83253767
>taking notes
>working on big tasks so I break em down
actually solid. the more you invest the width of your attention into a task at a low resistance level, the easier it is to escalate, keep the pace, re-initiate
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>>83253815
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. I don't need or want yours, or anyone's praise or validation. You can tell me I'm wrong, tell me I'm the worst and that I don't know anything if you want.

Anon asked how to solve his problem, I told him how to solve it. He can do it, he can refuse it. No posturing required.
>>83253836
Instead of fucking off, I'll fuck on (ur mom), fag.
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>>83253853
>I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about
What is the purpose of you resisting to deal with that mental block void?
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>>83253902
No resistance here, you're more than welcome to elaborate. In fact, I would encourage it. Pull out those kitty claws, dig deep, really TRY to get me.
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>>83253923
>No resistance here
Blissful ignorance is a serious defensive mechanism. Have you tried meditating on it?
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>>83253940
Of course I have, to the point where blissful ignorance is no longer possible.
Ignorance is painful because I know what is being ignored. I've seen it, I can no longer pretend it doesn't exist. It would be like pretending the sun doesn't exist, merely because looking at it hurts my eyes.
If I try to pretend it doesn't, the light outside is an anomaly. A painful one.

But, I digress, you still haven't elaborated on what you're talking about. I'm inviting you to really challenge me.
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>>83253775
>it would be finding purpose
Have you found it? Do you ever wonder what it all really means?
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>>83253966
No, I most certainly have not. But, I have found a path. One that seems to hold my weight over the void. And from that path I've found a direction. What exactly is at the end of that path? I do not know. It's a dark, unlit road, there are no road signs, no markings on the pavement and no other travelers to follow.
>Do you ever wonder what it all really means?
Every moment of every second of every hour of every day. Even in my dreams. Most especially in my dreams.
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>>83254007
>Every moment of every second of every hour of every day. Even in my dreams. Most especially in my dreams.
https://youtu.be/MxEjnYdfLXU?si=HdizRIQDUtrgbeVq
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>>83254071
I see your wonder,
And raise you,
One Wonder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zwte0Wq3DY
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So what do you guys want for Christmas?
As for me, I want a red Ferrari 308 GTSi.
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>>83254133
https://youtu.be/b0bK-vUlw6M?si=Z8bjm_A0jOMavlnN
All in.
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>>83253964
>I'm inviting you to really challenge me.
This is what I'm talking about. You're hypersensitive.
Got into defensive clamping down quick.

Progressed into "claws" and "challenges."

Reptile brain power games don't matter. Would it harm you to stop your self-absorbed cope schema done at the expense of mentally ill people's attention, hope, and mental energy?
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>>83254145
I want a white and black 1966 Shelby GT 350
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>>83254145
Aight Maruzensky, For me it's the matte white AMG GT 63.
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>>83254145
>So what do you guys want for Christmas?
Lilac's love and affection
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>>83254145
A Steam gift card would be more than enough
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>>83254172
C'mooooon. GET ME ALREADY. My mouth is watering, I need something to consume. Where's these kitty claws at? Poke me! STAB ME.
Don't just stand over there and doodle in the sand because you're too scared to make a step.
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>>83254241
Omg so cute!! ^_^ I hope you and her get married centaur I'm so glad to see you again
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>>83254259
Take your sedatives and answer my question maybe
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>>83254302
Doubt that's centaur
Many want lilacs love and affection. Possibly dozens
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>>83254312
I'm not playing a game. Happy? Are you going to actually say something that applies to me now?
Or will you continue to intentionally miscategorized me because you dislike the way I talk?
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>>83254346
>I'm not playing a game
What is this supposed to mean as the answer? You pester the mentally ill just out of compulsion you can't resist?
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>>83252268
INTP here
I have a brother who is schizoid but never got diagnosed myself. Am Asperger's tho

Though I have many Schizoid traits (Emotional detachment, Lacking assertiveness, Anhedonia, Solitary)
I am not indifferent to praise and criticism and wish I had success with people which differs me from pretty much every Schizoid I've known
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>>83254414
It's me saying that your framing is wrong. I'm sorry (not really) that I didn't just suck anons dick and tell him his life is so terrible and that he should just give up and stop trying because it's hard.
I guess that makes me an evil person trying to """pester the mentally ill""".

It's not like your framing doesn't instantly illuminate yourself as the abusive enabler that you are, who would slowly drip feed someone the copium that their life isn't worth living and that they should just curl up into a little ball, concede and rot away in their room while never making any sort of effort that makes them feel uncomfortable.


I'll ask again, are you going to say something that applies to me? Or are you going to flail around and project your own shadow?
If you have a problem with something I said or did, let's hear it. I've been waiting, and telling you to do it. So, do it.
I'm not interested in you shadowboxing some imaginary figure of your own creating while I act as the stand-in. Give me something of substantive value. You know, real.
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Are Schizoids the true NPCs of this world?

>Indifferent to humanity
>Completely unfeeling like a machine
>They exist with no great reason

If LLMs are not sentient (because they are not attached to a living soul, incapable of human emotion), why are schizoids considered people? They are like rocks or impersonal textbooks. Fundamentally if they are not humans then I don't think they deserve rights either. Knowing these things going about their day kinda creeps me out.
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>>83254542
Emotions or not, we are all NPCs.
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>>83254145
>So what do you guys want for Christmas?
I wanna go back to Aruba.
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This thread is too boring today
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Anyone who tries to sleep with lilac that isn't centaur needs to back off. She's his >:[
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>>83254521
You were doing all of your "advice" and "encouragement" posts entirely voluntarily - is that correct?
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>>83254644
Yeah it's been a pretty weak thread, but turbie was here for a little bit!! And the OP picture is so cute and adorable.

We need something to make it better maybe cupcakes?
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>>83254669
What a strange question. Obviously yes, anon directly asked how to solve a problem, and I answered his question.
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I genuinely do not see how telling someone that life can be better if you try hard enough is somehow belittling to them, or somehow a nuisance or a pesterance to the person in question.

I cannot even conceive of the frame which would generation that conclusion.
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Rate my INTP dinner
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You voluntarily chose to be a human pest while trying to justify your disclosed coping mechanism involving others without their informed consent. Your justification is using "clueless helper" narrative framing to bunker up and deflect from even constructive criticism. Meanwhile some anon >>83253767 not posturing as a guru just blown this farce out with advice that's actually used by real people who actually deal with problems and don't involve others into malignant cope.
Your persistent voluntary choice is unremarkably disgusting and your guilt can't catch up to you too soon.
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>>83254747
Never really liked monster. As a fellow INTP I choose redbull. Just make sure to drink plenty of water as kidney stones hurt and I will do my best to prevent anyone from having one.
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>>83254747
You have very frail and feminine wrist anon. Do you have a bf already?
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>>83254833
Red Bull is so sour and the base flavor tastes like battery acid
I like Monster because they have flavored ones
Usually I prefer the Iced Tea flavored Monsters but they ran out of them at the local grocery store
Kthx will do xoxo
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>>83254855
I'm a man and besides a relationship would mean having to share space with someone else. No thanks
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>>83254869
>I'm a man and
Not with those frail arms buddy.
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>>83254886
And you are gay
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>>83254862
>sour and the base flavor tastes like battery acid
I don't like sour flavours that much but red bull genuinely wakes me up like I got shocked.
Nothing else gives me the energy without also giving me the shakes.
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>>83254956
It does also give me the shakes
And by that I mean it gives me diarrhea
But I suppose if having the flavor of Red Bull stuck in your mouth is what wakes you up, then I'd understand
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>>83254789
>without their informed consent.
>>83252514
>any other anons know how to escape this suffering other than suicide

>>83254789
Do me a favor, quit being a lying faggot. If you want to shadow box some imaginary creature of your own creation, have at it. Continue to fight yourself, continue to project your own shadow onto other people because you cannot stand something within yourself. It'll get you real far in life.
Anon was basically begging for someone to show him the way out so he can avoid suicide.

People like you genuinely disgust me, you'd rather try and drag someone else into the mud than even make an attempt to get out yourself.
Despicable.
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>>83254855
That's easy to identify as male hand
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>>83255002
>People like you genuinely disgust me, you'd rather try and drag someone else into the mud than even make an attempt to get out yourself.
You disgust yourself. What disgusts you is your reflection that you see when you view me.
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why everyone in this thread sounds evil?
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>>83255108
>You telling anon to try and make his life better is actually what's disgusting you
Right. Keep lying.
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just took a morality alignment test and got chaotic evil
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Man, I was really hoping anon would actually confront ME and tell me my own wrong doings. Would've loved to learn something.
But no.
I have to contend with an idiot shadow boxing imaginary monsters.
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anyone wanna take the test? lol https://www.idrlabs.com/moral-alignment/test.php
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>>83255239
Holy shit, I'm just so disgustingly evil! I'm just out to manipulate everyone and make them look stupid!
Or whatever that retard was trying to say.
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>>83255239
T. INTP
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>>83254747
I made some actual dinner with whatever I had laying around
Tastesgoodman
Gonna watch Mushishi while eating
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>>83255102
>I swear I have big strong manly hands!
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>>83255383
That wasn't me though but he's right tho
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>>83255420
>ummm hi! My frail weak arms also count as manly! Even though I can't lift 40 kilos.
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>>83255522
There aren't many men who can lift 40 kilos
Anatomically they are undoubtedly male though
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>>83255581
40kg is only 88 lbs anon...
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Explain which functions of the INFP finds ESTJs to be the sexiest beast of them all
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>>83255804
The letters just look better, they look more bold and have a sexier vibe about them.
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>>83255782
That's still a lot though. That's literally a 13 gallons tank of water
>>83255804
"Beast" is a wild misstatement
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>>83255804
The stinky ones thatn eed to take a bath.
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>>83255804
The one that says they're a FiNe S(h)iTe
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I'm bored
>Your type
>A show that you particularly enjoyed. Took you out of this world and made you feel emotions you didn't know you had
Me gustaria recommendations
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>>83256045
>>Your type
ESFP-T
>>A show that you particularly enjoyed. Took you out of this world and made you feel emotions you didn't know you had
Chernobyl.
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I cannot believe that normal people just exist and live their lives
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>>83256555
Me neither
I live in a purgatory between existence and death. Not actually doing anything or living. Just existing
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>>83256045
>Your type
INTP
>A show
The Chainsaw man movie was really good. I knew what was going to happen but it hurt every single step of the way.
I don't know what you're feeling up for but if you want to feel something I think Manchester by the Sea does a pretty good job. I really like Life is Beautiful, I'm pretty sure it's an italian movie. Trainspotting, Collateral, both Bladerunners, Iron Claw, Nightcrawler and Gattaca is a fun one. For shows that first season of True Detective was really good. I also really like Mr. Inbetween.
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>>83256555
>I cannot believe that normal people just exist and live their lives
As a cyborg half-normie myself, normies are people who did what society expected of them & succeed at it. Meanwhile people on /r9k/ are degrees of failed normies: some never had chance from the start (severe autists), others tried and failed (doomers, PUAs, stoners, etc), others succeed for a while but came crashing down (divorced alimony mgtows, AI fired coders, etc).
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>>83251567
Based. The best part about catching up on the thread is how that retard just keeps getting ignored. Absolute lmao
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>>83257083
There are many failed normies on this website. I think pure robots are too underrepresented.

Personally, I'm one of those robots that are so inhuman that it never even begun.

No friends in childhood, no friends now, always have been obsessed with autist and schizo stuff, couldn't have a conversation with a cashier to save my life. I feel like an alien wherever I go.
Everytime I try to integrate a social group, I'm always explicitly the outlier and the outcast.

I used to try to combat this desperately in my later teen years after realizing much too late how weird I was, but have honestly given up and accepted my status as a robot/soon to be wizard. The only thing that kept me from going full wizard was my will to thrive, which I have none now.

Would've been great had I had the willpower to achieve anything of note either to make up for my lack of conventional success, but I am incapable of such things either.
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>>83251567
People often respond to me like that times while I keep sputtering on
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>>83253815
>How come your "throwing shit at the void wall until a purpose sticks" approach involves trying to take some high moral ground or posturing against anyone who doesn't praise you?
Narcissism . . .
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>>83255108
>You disgust yourself. What disgusts you is your reflection that you see when you view me.
This anon nailed it.
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>>83255223
lol you sound so ass blasted
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>what's your type
skibidi badass
>all that other stuff
ok I guess
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>>83257325
>skibidi badass
unc detected
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>>83257083
I'm no normie I'm a true robot
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>>83258040
How much of a robot truly are you TE? Prove it
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It's Advent already! *o*


>>83253198
Mmmmmmmy ~Enjoyer~! <3 (>^_^)><(^_^<) <3
I hope no one cries, unless it's joy-related! :'3

>>83253401
This: (>^_^)>[>>83253524]<(^_^<)

>>83254660
I hope they're still together! ^_^

>>83254672
I look like Sayori in that picture! :O


To be continued...
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>>83256045
>Your type
intp
>A show that you particularly enjoyed. Took you out of this world and made you feel emotions you didn't know you had
legend of the galactic heroes, its good
serial experiments lain, its also good
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...continuation of >>83258728!


>>83256045
A-are you the Himeno Anon who used to post here? ^_^;;;

>>83257083
>>83257137
Posts of truth! :O

>>83258173
I-I'm more robotlike than my <3 *~Enjoyersie~* <3 is! ^.^
>KHHV (though an anon e-kissed me once)
>no friends (except /mbti/)
>no relationship ever (besides the sort-of marriage with my Enjoyer)
On the other hand, I have a career (albeit barely)! :3c
I also meet these indicators of success that are not in the official robot criteria from 2011: I have a Google Knowledge Panel, and I'm probably still a waifu to several anons! *^_^* <3<3<3
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>>83258797
no, im just a friendly neighborhood himeno/ fujimoto admirer
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>>83252613
>sx/sp
>sp/sx
what is this stuff?
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>>83258889
instinctual relation to the enneagram. look up sx5 and sp5 for example. or so5
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im sx/sp and i wanna kms
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>>83259235
Retard why aren't you sp/sx
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>>83259235
For a second I thought you said:
>I'm sexy and I wanna kiss
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>>83233191
NTA but typing yourself by yourself for instance. Understanding how your brain works and learning about the functions.
Most people get into mbti with many misconceptions which makes them mistype, thinking that only isfps are artistic or that sensor feelers are dumb
Actually, not even the "E" or "I" in MBTI has that much to do with social introversion or extroversion, it correlates but that's not what it refers to
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>>83259291
honestly everytime i try to type myself i always come to a different conclusion

i just know im xNxP. i think i might probably be INTP but i keep finding types that sound more or less like me
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>>83257083
>cyborg half-normie
You're a full blown normie wtf you on about
>>83256045
INFP
Probably Star Trek DS9 it's my favorite tv show
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>>83259326
that's because it's not real, people's thoughts, actions and motivations aren't as rigid as the mbti typing system, something could apply to one thing or multiple others at the same time
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>>83233126
I'm a male ENFP is that good or bad?
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>>83260003
then you're flamingopilled and that's real and based as fuck
>>83259991
yeah it might be but they're still kind of accurate to some extent and with a grain of salt
i find that MBTI is pretty good at explaining the behavior of some people
also i just realized im probably actually ENTP lol
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>>83252613
sx/sp is seen as bad only because some have skill issues and give us a bad name
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>>83258728
>>83258797
(>^_^)><(^_^<) *Glomps*

>>83258797
>KHHV (though an anon e-kissed me once)
:O
MWah (>^_^)><(^_^<) I give you e kiss all the time!!!!
>no friends?
:O
Not even co-workers or boss or your brother? :O
>career (Barely)
:O
Don't sell self short you work so much!!! ^_^ and so hard and you've got a google panel? THat makes you famous!! :)
>I look like Sayori in that picture! :O
You look like a cupcake!~! ^_^
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ZABADEEDOOBADOOBEEDOODABLOOBAXEEBOODOODADIDOODABIDALALALA
im bored make this thread more interesting
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>>83260097
Awesome! I uh don't know what flamingo pilled means though .. but it sounds good!
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>>83260226
it means you're a silly goofy little guy who is so silly and awesome
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>>83259326
The best way to understand typology is to read Jung's Psychological Types, understand the four functions, yes there's only four functions, not eight. Then figure out which function you prefer, then understand the two attitudes.
It's really pretty simple. But it requires real work. You can't just narrow the functions down to stereotypes and say "I'm scared of people therefore I'm an introvert!" or "I never leave my house therefore I'm an introvert!"
Because those aren't introversion, not inthe slightest.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmASF2SazE0
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>>83260420
im Ne dom which i think is my clearest function
and then im Ti which is my second clearest function but i process things through a Ne filter

so NeTi it is
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>>83260591
You completely ignored what I said, but hey, if that's how you wanna do it, go for it.
BUT-
Ne is not a function, nor is Ti.
Intuition and thinking are function, extroversion and introversion are attitudes.

Why do you think these are your clearest functions, though?
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>>83260611
Oh
Well I'm Ne because I started reading your post and started brainstorming what it means before finishing reading it
And I'm Ti because I want to adhere to logic and objectivity in everything i do and my secondary function is def not Fi because I couldn't give a fuck about values
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>>83260672
I swear to God that sounds like cognitive introversion but my brain and way of thinking if pretty damn extroverted
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>>83260672
That's not Ne though, that's just thinking. Brainstorming is thinking.
And introverted thinking isn't objective, it's subjective. It defies objectivity more often than not.
>def not Fi because I couldn't give a fuck about values
That's just not true. It's impossible to not give a fuck about values. You placed a value judgement on replying to my post. You placed a value judgement on reading my post. You placed a value judgement on the specific words you used to describe yourself.

You need some Jung in your life.
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>>83260705
It's really oversimplified and I know it's really badly explained and full of logical fallacies but I really wanted to throw something out there desu
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>>83260714
Don't worry, I'm not criticizing you. If you want to look at things like that, it's your perspective, have at it.
But, you have a misunderstanding of what functions are, and it will keep you trapped in a loop of not being able to understand yourself, or even other people. Your type will change a lot because you're not identify anything within yourself, you're only identifying the external pattern you see played out.
This is the problem with calling "Ne" "brainstorming" because brainstorming is an external pattern (even though it happens in your head).
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>>83260736
I'm looking into it as we speak
I'll get back to this thread on it to tell of my findings
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Ni Ti masterrace
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I wish the faglord Turbie Enjoyer would put actual useful links in the OP and quit being a faglord.

>>83260756
But, here's a really good source for getting the basics, it has all the definitions you need. If you want just the definitions of the functions, scroll to chapter 4 in the content guide, and look for feeling, thinking, sensation and intuition. The previous chapters are about the extroverted and introverted types respectively.
https://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=Psychological_Types
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>>83260836
Holy reading. That's definitely gonna be for tomorrow. I'm too sleep deprived for that
However I've found from preliminary searching that I tend to move against the grain instead of with it. My logic is still pretty internal and I do have the tendency to want to defend it whenever it is challenged.
However I don't scrutinize my internal logic until something comes along to question it

And when I come across new ideas that come into conflict with my internal logic even though I try to defend myself in the conversation, I know that I am wrong and reconsider my position when I no longer have to defend my position

And usually adopting new positions come from being challenged by the world first and internal logic second

I'll let you decide what that means for yourself
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>>83260892
Put in simple terms
Idea: I'm extroverted
Practice: I go on 4chan and tell people I act such and such and such way
Reality: They tell me introversion or extroversion doesn't mean this
I defend: "Oh well I thought that this and that"
I recoil and analyze "I could be extroverted as I previously assumed but I need to stress test it to be sure"
I perform research to verify the evidence

You are here
Eyecandy picture to retain attention
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>>83260892
Yeah, and that's the condensed version.
One of the problems with the way you're looking at this, and yourself, is that you're looking at behaviors. And maybe, this is simply due to a barrier in language and that it's difficult to describe yourself without describing your behaviors. But this sort of analysis won't get you your type.

MBTI is about analyzing your psyche, and understanding the chain of events that happens in your own mind that lead to the behaviors, where your attention is drawn inside of your own mind.
For example, you said:
>However I don't scrutinize my internal logic until something comes along to question it
Why? What happens in your mind that made you feel the need to scrutinize it? That's the important thing, analyzing WHY you behaved a certain way. Where does your attention go in your mind, when someone questions your logic? And there's going to be a bunch of different things that show up in your mind when you do this, and you have to parse through them all.

This is just an example,
You know, maybe when someone criticizes your logic, it makes you feel inferior and stupid and like a kid. Which points to some sort of unconscious movement of the psyche. Then you dig around there and find that your teacher when you were 7 called you stupid or whatever and it stuck with you.
That's the kind of thing you should be doing.
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>>83261069
>I recoil and analyze
THIS is where you find your type. The cause of the recoil. The internal cause. Not the external cause, not me saying "that's not what it means".
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>>83261108
Well usually I scrutinize it because
1. Ego: If I'm wrong about something then it hurts my ego. And yep you might've guessed it it's a childhood defense mechanism
Ironically then that might make the case for INFP or INTJ

2. Logical correctness as well: I value ideas based on structural integrity and logicality. My ideologies (or lack there of) come from finding the most logically sound ideas I can think of and finding the logical nooks and crannies in them. I don't care what other people think of my opinion so long as it is sound
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>>83261145
>1. Ego: If I'm wrong about something then it hurts my ego.
Okay, that's a start. But you have to go deeper. What does the ego believe itself to be, that would cause it to be hurt with the realization that it could be/is wrong?
>Ironically then that might make the case for INFP or INTJ
No, you did the same thing again. That's not how you determine type. Childhood defenses are not specific to a type, they're universal. Everyone does it.
You could just as well be an ESTP from that conclusion.
>I value ideas based on structural integrity and logicality.
Let me rephrase this so you can understand the problem with this perspective.
"I feel (referring to the feeling function) this way about thinking (referring to the thinking function)"
You have two functions at play here. This perspective doesn't get you any closer to an answer.

Why do you feel that way? What is the cause of that feeling? Where does it come from within yourself? What is the goal of feeling that way about thinking? What purpose does it serve to feel that way, and to think that thing?
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>>83261217
I'll say it plain as day. I am arguing that I'm extroverted because i WANT to be extroverted. Ego thing. Makes me feel good about myself to know that I'm still introverted even though I'm a loser. Because a loser is weak and that I want not be.

I value logic above all else because

1. Being logical is my identity. It's going against the norm. It's an act of rebellion.

2. I want to navigate the world knowing I have objectively taken the most logical and sound path.

3.I want to know the truth of this world and I want to know if there is a greater purpose.

So that'd make me INFP then wouldn't it. A lot of the reasons why I act "logical" is based on values rather than actually wanting to be logic. Except I do somewhat have a fascination with logic, but then I feel like if I said that straight I'd be biasing myself.
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>>83261304
I'll say it as plain as day too, I'm not telling you what type you are or aren't.
What I'm saying is your logic for determining your type is flawed.
>I value logic above all else because
If you value logic above all else, you value feeling above logic. Can you see the problem here? Value = feeling. Logic = thinking. You are not making a logic based conclusion on thinking, you're making a feeling based conclusion. Which means your feeling about logic supersedes the logic itself.

And this whole thing you said here:
>I'll say it plain as day. I am arguing that I'm extroverted because i WANT to be extroverted.
This is a persona.

>1. Being logical is my identity.
Identity here is equal to persona. It's the role you play, the mask you put on.
The question is why? You already said the answer:
>even though I'm a loser.
What does it mean to be a loser?
Why do you identify loser and introvert to be equal?
Why is an extrovert not a loser?
What does it mean to be introverted?

What you're pointing to is your own emotional complexes, your emotional wounds. But you're not trying to heal these wounds, you're trying to avoid them and hide them behind a persona/mask of being "extroverted". Rather than allowing that part of yourself you deem to be a loser to be part of yourself.
What you're doing is pointing at a part of yourself and saying "GET AWAY FROM ME YOU LOSER."

And maybe that's a little too telling.
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>>83261435
Soooooo
Long way to say I'm INFP right
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>>83261460
Maybe. It's not for me to determine.
But your description of yourself does seem to point to inferior thinking.

It could also be the other way around though. You could be a thinking type who is afraid of their own feeling.
You could be an extroverted thinking type who has lost themselves in their own shadow inferior feeling.
I cannot determine that though, and really, even you can't. At least not at this moment. Not until you actually try and heal what's going on in your mind. That wound will be in control. It is the controlling power. You, the ego, are not in control. You've made that ABUNDANTLY clear.

The thing that is in control is your fears, your negative self judgements, your self loathing, all that stuff. Your shadow. If you don't accept those parts of yourself, they will ruin you.
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>>83261435
Ok I'll answer though
1. A loser: I perceive anyone who is weak as a loser. People who are me, or at least the parts of me that I supress.
People who are ruled. People who are messed with. People who are emotional. People who are soft. People who are empathetic. They secretly make my gut wrench.
2 and 3 and maybe 4
Because Introvert = Also me.
In this world introverts get ruled over and steamrolled by extroverts. Introverts are reclusive while Extroverts are the one being bold and acheiving real world affect meanwhile introverts are stuck in analysis paralysis in a world that cares not for their internal systems, but instead rule of the fittest
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>>83261499
Actually, saying inferior thinking isn't right. I take that back.

The thinking you use is compensatory. You say "feeling is weak, therefore I will be stronk by thinking"
That's a compensation.
>>83261521
>People who are me, or at least the parts of me that I supress.
So long as you hold onto this belief, you are keeping yourself trapped in a cycle of behavior. You can't ever be free if you keep yourself trapped.
Do you understand that?

Running doesn't really work. Especially when you're running from yourself. You're just going to be tired and sad.
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>>83261579
Ok so are you saying the belief that these people are weak or the belief that I am like these people is the wrong part?

Also yeah I know it's shit but honestly I don't know where to start unwrapping all that stuff and I don't have the mental willpower to get past my blocks.
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>>83233126
>INTJ
>Sometimes
>intp,istp,istj
>only if it doesnt include me
>meow
>No
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>>83261605
I wouldn't use the word wrong. I would say, the belief that you are weak is what makes you weak. Stealing power from yourself can only make you weak. Trying to excise the parts of yourself from yourself makes you weak.
Convincing yourself that you can excise the parts of yourself you don't like, and you'll become stronger through this is what's wrong.
It's wrong because, these parts are, for one not going to go away. You might not see them, but they will control your life. They will fight you. You have created and bread an internal war ground.

>Also yeah I know it's shit but honestly I don't know where to start unwrapping
Start by recognizing what you're doing. The unconscious behaviors you do without even realizing become in your control when you look at them.
It's just like when you breathe. You do it without conscious thought, then you pay attention to it, and now you're the one breathing. And now you can hold your breath, or breath at any pace you want.

When that thought "I'm a loser, I'm worthless, etc" arises normally, LOOK at it. Don't ignore it, don't push it away, don't lie, don't cope. Face it. Change it. Even if it's only a 1% change. Even if you're only 1% less losery than before. That's still a win.

And the thing about willpower, the more you use, the more you have. It's weird and paradoxical. The less you use, the less you have. The more you use the more you have.
If you feel like you can't. Do it anyways. You'll find that you can, even if it takes a couple of tries.
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>>83261711
damn. well i guess i LITERALLY am guts fr fr. real struggler days.

no but i suppose i see what you mean. it's actually kind of intelligent what you're saying right now. but i mean you're basically saying what ive felt all this time internally but have been repressing all this time.

these are the people i hate because these are the qualities i repress in myself from years of hardships coming from early childhood up until my adulthood experiences. and i have resorted to completely repressing them by creating this identity of the me who is the one who steamrolls others' foolish plight for empathy and collectiveness by being abrasively independent and facts first. not only in my social approach, but in my approach to how i think about my life as well.

ive heard of the jungian theory of the shadow but never have i had it spelled out as such so plainly for a moron like me. i suppose it couldn't hurt to actually try what your theory says though. in fact i already had to concede a lot of ground in this very conversation by admitting that im not pure logic but im actually very much a fag who feels.

anyways, quite an eye opening conversation, thank you for spending your time talking to me. except now i have no more letters to classify myself as, so i actually hate you.
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>>83261805
>but i mean you're basically saying what ive felt all this time internally but have been repressing all this time.
That's smarter than anything I've said, to be honest with you. It's smarter and takes more courage.
>by admitting that im not pure logic but im actually very much a fag who feels.
We're all big faggots who feel. Especially the ones who hide behind logic. They just don't want to admit it.
>anyways, quite an eye opening conversation, thank you for spending your time talking to me.
You're welcome, anonski. Just make sure you put it to use. Don't let it sit in your tool box of unused tools for fear of what might happen.
>except now i have no more letters to classify myself as, so i actually hate you.
Lel. It's part of one of those weird paradoxes. It's sort of like how a specialist doctor has to learn everything about doctoring to learn how to be a footfag doc.

To master yourself is to master the whole of the concept of the psyche. To know yourself, you must first know your enemy. It's weird and doesn't make much rational sense.
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>>83261968
>That's smarter than anything I've said, to be honest with you. It's smarter and takes more courage.
You say this and then you go on to do practically all the work opening my eyes and peering into the depths of my soul as I nod along.
>Just make sure you put it to use. Don't let it sit in your tool box of unused tools for fear of what might happen.
I already know how I should be using it in my daily life to be frank. I just don't know if I have the power to do so yet.
I guess small steps for now. AKA holding back from wanting to interject and humiliate people and considering things seriously which I previously dismissed on the basis of it going against my values.
>We're all big faggots who feel. Especially the ones who hide behind logic. They just don't want to admit it.
Yeah, I find that even the people who are seemingly aloof and completely devoid of emotion, are actually feeling too, in hidden subconscious ways, or in their own way. Cognition is a way of feeling how things will pan out, after all.
>To know yourself, you must first know your enemy. It's weird and doesn't make much rational sense.
I do think there is some logical sense to this. After all in my view that is subjective and prone to correction upon future findings, it is my opinion that humans are purely systems designed the laws of nature. Therefore, there is a sense, or rhythm, no matter how seemingly irrational, that escapes out small human minds. It is not necessarily a conventional logic either. I suppose you could just say we are part of the laws of nature. I just happen to be a very defective system within the local maximum of human minds in their Jungian understanding. But anyway, that's just my 2 cents, and also a cope for the fact that I'm a feeler tryin to pin the blame on external factors. I am quite an irrational creature. This is the cope I've been telling myself as well to be able to ignore my feelings.

Who knows though, maybe one day I'll know my letters after all.
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>>83257188
>projecting/accusing someone else of NPD
>formal ellipses
You've done it. You've broken a Kris post down to it's bare essentials!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2bSvdMpPnFA
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welp im gonna sleep
after that talk i don't know if im going to be able to classify myself as anything
expect me to come tomorrow in the
>Type
XXXX
fit
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>>83262074
I can't open your eyes. If you didn't want your eyes open, you'd just refuse. You're the one who wanted your eyes to be opened, and also opened them. I just showed you where to look.
>holding back from wanting to interject and humiliate people
I would say push yourself a step further. Don't just hold yourself back. Because that alone doesn't get you anywhere. Eventually you'll slip up and humiliate someone just out of reflex.
But, if you can catch yourself beforehand, analyze yourself and see why you want to do that.
And in the moments that you can't catch yourself, and you actually reflexively insult someone, do the same thing analyze why you did it, and how it made you feel afterwards.

I think you'll find that it's a bit like post nut clarity, you'll feel a bit gross after you do it. But it's a release of built up tension that you only know how to release in one way, by insulting someone. But there's other ways to release it, better ways.
>I suppose you could just say we are part of the laws of nature.
The laws of the universe also apply to our minds. Yeah. Every law you could think of that is a natural law also has its psyche equivalent.
>I just happen to be a very defective system
I don't think so.
>Who knows though, maybe one day I'll know my letters after all.
Let it go, and if its truly yours, it'll return. Ever heard that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi9op1ojpCs
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>>83262228
damn you for making a reply right before i go to sleep.

but yeah just the realizing that you're having a knee-jerk statement or behavior and trying to supress that knee-jerk reaction and tolerating it ive found is enough to get me to think deeper about the behavior at hand

even if i do Fe fundamentally gross for even letting myself get anywhere near those feelings. which by gross you perfectly hit on the feeling. it's a visceral feeling of disgust. disgust at the person and disgust at myself for feeling such weak emotions. but i guess any such process is gonna be arduous.

anyway. thanks for the talk. thanks for jake the dog video. signing off now, gn, good day
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>>83262105
It's not projection if it's true.
(It happens to be true.)
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another low content reply yawn

that's against the RULES you know
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>Dats against da rools!
OKAY HALLMONITOR!
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Truth needs no wordy explanation. It stands on its own. What you call "low content" is simple, unconfused truth.
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If truth doesn't need a wordy explanation, you wouldn't need the word truth. It would be self evident.
But-
it's not.
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Truth doesn't exist. The truth could be anything you want it to be. There is no single reality. We all live in our own unique realities. The truth is unknown to us mortals.
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The only unique thing about my and your reality is that im genuinely a girl and your a brain fogged boy drunk on delirium
>random esoteric nuggets of nothing again
Tranny escapism, bring something new to the table or stfu
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Too mundane for the /x/ threads but too off topic for r9k. whell,,,
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>>83262180
Sleep well smol lost one
You will find your type soon just like gus
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>>83262874
>>83262874
Naming it truth is not a wordy explanation. It is a name. Nice false equivalence, Mr fallacy man
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>>83262982
Reality is single. There are not multiple realities, merely multiple experiences of reality. Experience is not reality.
>>83263165
To name it truth you have to define truth, and you have to define all the words which define truth.
Which makes the word "truth", itself, a wordy explanation. Because the word truth is not a single word.
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Holy yikes . . .
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Holy B I K E S bicycleman!
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>>83263181
A definition need not be a wordy explanation. A definition can be short and concise. A wordy explanation is the opposite. Again, you are making false equivalences. This is as expected, at this point
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>>83263057
What is unique about our realities if I am another gril? :3c
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i don't remember these threads being midwit threads in 2021. everything was fun. what happened
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>>83263227
This user is a Chinese spy trying to trick you out of Swiss mbti into Chinese love types!!!
Do not redeem!!
Don't eat the dog!!
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>>83263233
this summer our smartest posters transitioned from male to female to dead.
It's been a rough year
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>>83263263
breeder? oh god
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>>83263222
But the words in the definition of a singular word themselves need definitions.

Let's say the definition of "truth" contains 10 words. Okay, now those 10 words have to be defined with 10 other words, and those 10 require 10 other words.
That's like a thousand words just to convey a single word.
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"A picture is worth a thousand words!"
A word is nothing more than a symbolic picture.
Which means a word is worth a thousand words.

The ouroboros of language.
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>>83263281
>But the words in the definition of a singular word themselves need definitions.
And? That definitions use words does not automatically qualify them as wordy explanations. I have provided in picrel Webster's definition of wordy since you apparently need the help distinguishing between things that are wordy and things that are not . . .
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>>83263351
You've proven my point. A word itself contains many words. Every word is a fractal word that contains infinitely many more words. Not only does a word contain more words, but it also contains pictures and concepts, which themselves contains words.
If you want to pretend that one word is simply one word, fine. But, it's a superficial reduction, like pretending a table is simply "one table", when in reality it's comprised of many different things.
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MBTI Sex
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>>83263655
>You've proven my point.
I have not. You are confused. Here, let's analyze and help you reach a better understanding . . .

> A word itself contains many words. Every word is a fractal word that contains infinitely many more words. Not only does a word contain more words, but it also contains pictures and concepts, which themselves contains words.
Right here you have committed an equivocation fallacy. There are multiple meanings and uses for "wordy." One is what I provided earlier in the pic, and one other is "of or relating to words." That latter one is the one you are using here and trying to force upon me in order to misrepresent what I said and change the meaning of what I meant. You are trying to erase my use of the word and insert your own, saying that my use of wordy is the same as yours. No, it is not. These are two distinct meanings for "wordy" and they are not the same. Just because definitions use words (your use of "of or relating to words") does not automatically invalidate my original use and meaning ("using or containing many and usually too many words") in the phrase "wordy explanation."

Now, why would you try to replace my meaning with a different one? Why twist things and shift uses of the same word? Why the equivocation and attempted deconstruction of the strawman you created? I'm sure we could analyze that as well. Playing word games the way you do and trying to shift meanings around allows you to appear of better mind than you are. But it often relies on you misconstruing and misrepresenting other sides -- not to mention being of appearance rather than substance. And I can think of a certain personality disorder which is cognitively predisposed to such behavior.

>If you want to pretend that one word is simply one word, fine. But, it's a superficial reduction, like pretending a table is simply "one table", when in reality it's comprised of many different things.
Let me know how your argument with this strawman goes . . .
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Which mbti would you most sexo if you were a rego?
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I want a BF, but I don't just want any old goober. I put out a list of prereqs and robots acted offended:
>be clean, politically moderate, not a cynical nihilist or a pervert or shorter then me
>"OMG why are women so picky F U!!!!!!!"
You just can't win I guess LOL.
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>>83264314
more like
>don't ask for a virgin gf
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>>83264166
IDK I guess I wanna abuse and tease an infp but I'm just not sexy so it's never happening.
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>>83264333
I'm gonna be real, no girl is a virgin. I have my first experience at 13. Just saying.
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>>83264389
that's fine actually, I'd just cheat on you like all normal people do all the time
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>>83264407
Average INFJ post
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>>83264407
Wanna hear something insane?
My cousin Taylor (she's a girl btw) basically slutmaxxed and went after her boss and then when they got caught HE got fired. He lost his pension (had worked there for 18 years and was two years away from retiring). And is getting a divorce, and he owes alimony.
It's wild man.
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>>83264093
I literally used the definition you provided in your picture:
>Using or containing many and usually too many words

You said, and I'm paraphrasing
>"One word is only one word, therefore not wordy."
And I said
>"No, one word is not one word, it's many, many, many, many words to the point where it's also wordy."

>Let me know how your argument with this strawman goes . . .
Oh, so you admit to strawmanning? Nice.
Now, THAT is me playing word games, and twisting words.
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>>83264166
Lilac. I would knock the swamp out of that lilacussy.
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>>83264452
i see you're preparing for being fucked over by manslut
hiding your assets in crypto
smart
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I would just die if I can't have a virgin wife tbqh. better to be alone than shackled to a harlot for eternity!!
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>>83264753
Turbie knows you can accept her 87 digit body count man up it's not even triple digits
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>>83264093
>>83264475
The real problem you have, which is one you won't even acknowledge; is that I've exposed your frame, which is rigid and fragile. It's something like "This one way of seeing things is the one and only true way of seeing things."
It frames anyone who disagrees with you as, stupid, liars, strawmanners, arguing in bad faith, misrepresenting, etc. You can dismiss everyone who disagrees with your initial frame because your initial frame is deemed to be objectively correct, cannot be argued with.
It is, in your own very definition, truth. And you, being the one who holds the frame, is the arbiter of truth.
And from your perspective within that frame, I am stupid, because I am arguing against truth, and obviously, I must be misrepresenting things, because that's the only way someone can argue against truth.

Your frame is flawed, your perspective within the frame is flawed, your defense of the frame is flawed. But, you'd rather double down on your shitty perspective confined by a rigid frame made of sand, than to concede any ground and admit that, yeah, actually words are kind of flexible, and contain within them many more words, concepts, ideas, pictures, which also themselves contain more words.

Right?
But, of course, I'm just strawmanning and misrepresenting you. Because you're right, and since I've framed you as wrong, it's a misrepresentation, my apologies.
Just another archetypal tyrannical king demanding those he deems to be his subjects to bow before his correctness.
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>>83264166
Sexy ESTJ Sexooooo
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>>83264475
>I literally used the definition you provided in your picture
I'm going to call out your lie here. I won't paraphrase you -- I will quote you directly.
>>83263655
>"A word itself contains many words"
Now, this here is you using the "of or relating to words" definition because you are pointing out how definitions use words that need other words to define those words, and so on. That is of or relating to words in the general sense. Most notably, though, it is not the same meaning as the other definition of "using or containing many and usually too many words" that I provided. The operative and important phrase in the definition I used was "too many words", as in being needlessly verbose. "Using or expressed in more words than are needed." The verbosity is the key, functional difference between my definition and yours -- and it thus distinguishes between something relating to "many words" in the general sense from something relating to the use of "too many." Again, you have fallen victim to the equivalence error in that you see the use of "many words" in one definition and say it's the same as the use of "many words" in the other one when the two definitions capture two different things.

>You said, and I'm paraphrasing
>"One word is only one word, therefore not wordy "
You paraphrase me for a reason; it allows you to change my meaning to something else that suits you. It conveniently allows you to strawman. I never said one word is one word, therefore not wordy. I said definitions contain words but are not necessarily "wordy explanations" just because of it. I highlighted the difference between something being short and concise as compared against something that was not, such as a wordy explanation.

There are instances in which many words are necessary. There are also instances in which too many can be used. Why on earth would you attempt to fold both of these two, different instances into one and present my definition as this distorted work of straw?
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You don't need to answer. I'm not actually curious
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>>83264774
>I've exposed your frame, which is rigid and fragile. It's something like "This one way of seeing things is the one and only true way of seeing things."
Nope. I never said it was the only definition. This is your strawman. And everything you say afterwards is directed at this distortion. I never said the definition I used was the only true one. I'm telling you which definition I used and which one you used. I'm highlighting the difference and I'm telling you that you misrepresented my definition as another.

I think I'm done entertaining your strawmen for tonight, narc. Catch me on another day for another lesson.
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Threads about to die. See ya guys in the next one.
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old ED farts can't keep it for end of thread shenanigans . . .
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>>83264788
If one word contains in it many more words, than a one word explanation is by the very definition of the phrase "wordy", wordy.
I could say "That is wordy", and those three words ARE wordy, because they contain thousands of words. Just because you can look at the surface and only see three words, does not refute the existence of the thousands upon thousands of words within those three words.

Every word is excessively verbose because every word contains thousands of words. The word "Cat" is wordy, it is excessively verbose because it contains within it every picture of every cat which ever existed, it contains every image of a cat generated by every psyche, it contains the context around cat it contains the color, the owner, or lack thereof, the surroundings of the cat, the amount of fur it does or does not have, the color of its eyes.
And all of these images are details with thousands of more words. There's probably in excess of a million words just inside of the word cat. And you're telling me THAT's not excessively verbose?
Please.
>Why on earth would you attempt to fold both of these two
I didn't. Why do you need to misrepresent me and my position just to feel artificially superior?
>>83264834
>Nope. I never said it was the only definition.
I didn't say you said that. I said I used the definition you posted. The definition in question is not the frame in question.
>I'm telling you which definition I used and which one you used.
The one you used is the one I used. The one in the picture.
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>>83264894
Not reading your words, narc. Stay mad
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>>83264907
>Erm akshully, you're the one who is mad!
Lol. Stay mad kiddo.
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i KNOW how we make /mbti/ great again

You and i, middle of the night. Grab some provisions and escape in the lifeboats, and start rowing towards SEXOOOOOOOOOOO xdpain
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>>83264907
>>83264916
old man gay porn in text form ! ! !
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>>83264916
LMAO the irony ..
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End of thread curses broke my spoiler

Bad juju
Capris not in alignment
Cant crink
Not today
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Literalists make me laugh.
>No! One word CANNOT be wordy, it's literally only one word!
>It's OBJECTIVELY TRUE you cannot argue that one word is more than one word, or else oyu're a narc!
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Ew rowing towards GAY SEX LMAO XDDD?
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>two donkeys mistaking each other for an ass
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Touched a nerve, did we?
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Yeah it's the tickle nerve which make me cackle like a crow.
CACACACACA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jDUH_w-Sqw
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touched each other's prostate nerve (exhibitionist edition)
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Yeah but who came first?
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this is the dude who felt like he was in the 'den of a dangerous psychopath' because of his _own_ embarrassment for literally dropping his spaghetti while cooking dinner infj-a let's be real

there's casting pearls before swine..
n then there're circular arguments with the Developmentally Arrested
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New thread!!!
>>83264993
>>83264993
Don't be late!!
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Obviously he did. Because he's the one who stopped.
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>>83264995
Circular argument circling the toilet bowl of consciousness, waiting for the shit to arrive.
But a goldfish, a moment of bliss, aw-
>"He's ded..."
Said the toilet.
>"I wonder what happened to 'em.."
He thought..

And the toilet was launched into a whorpull of emotions unbeknownst any toilet prior!
And just then-
>*TTTPPPBBBBBTTTT*
A giant shit fell in his toilet mouth,
and he was relieved.
returned to his toilety nature.

Eating shit.
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>>83264925
you should have put SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in spoilers so then the joke was funnier
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did it get settled down to a gay ouroboros?
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It's always gay ouroboros, cause he wants my dick.
But he ain't gettin it
Cause that's gay.
Gay, mang.
GAY.
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missing the dicks like missing the points

up the ass
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The dick missed the ass, just like he missed the point.
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>>83264995
Also:
You know, the developmentally arrested need to get bailed out too?
I've got some spare change, a double million spare words tucked into my collapsed singularity-word-cache. I can pull out a few and I'll still have a trillion. Got words to spare.
Every word is a million words.
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best we can provide are diapers
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Why would I mind giving out some psychic energy to those who lack it? I've got overflowing psychic energy, it's abundant. It's everywhere-
HELP I'M DROWNING IN PSYCHIC ENERGY!
Oh, nah, lol. I know how to swing.
...
Swimbrulee.



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