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Good job, sir.
you step away for a second kek
>>16244907>not the topical version
>>16244897SO SURREAL THAT AMERICAN ASTRONAUTS ARE BACK IN SPACE AGAIN AFTER THE SHUTTLE. THATNKS TO BOEING CORP FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. REAL SPACEFLIGHT ENTHUSIASTS SHOULD BE CHEERING THIS AND NOT SOME STEEL TUBE DUMPSTERFIRE
>>16244912My bad. No thruster version?
WHATS THE MUSKFAG COPE ABOUT THIS ONE?
Worst bait ever
>>16244918SLS is so pretty I wish it were a better rocket
>>16244913>no 'space flight' in baitawful show
>>16244921I would love this rocket if it could actually launch 4-6 times a year for its current budget
>>16244921Its ugly, and I am a contrarian who wants to like it. But I can't. Every aspect of it is gay and uninspiring :P
>>16244918didn't most of those CubeSats fail because their batteries were drained from the multiple launch scrubs?
>>16244925>colon p emoticonTRANNY DETECTED
I just wish they'd kept the stripes
>>16244921Why did the big dumb booster concept fail?It worked in pic related with spare shuttle engines
>>16244933i just wish theyd kept the structural paint.
Some goober split threads btw. Its a CNN screenshot thread too. Everyone go mark it as 'spamming/flooding'.
>>16244940It's off by 18 seconds. looks like an honest mistake to me
>>16244934The big dumb booster was an attractive idea because it was supposed to be cheap. Shuttle engines aren't cheap because they weren't designed to be and there are hardly any spares anyway. Also that's science fiction.
>>16244941I'm not trying to antagonize him but it still needs to be removed off the catalogue even if it is. We cant be shitting up the catty and thread OPs cant delete threads only jannies or mods or whatever can so we have to get them to do it. It also doesnt help /sfg/ to be split between multiple threads, discussion is better if concentrated in one thread. Also even with 18 second difference I always keep a separate tab open and refresh it right before hitting the 'Post' button just in case things like this happen.
>>16244942Then why does SLS look like a BDB and uses shuttle engines?
>>16244949the disadvantages of both and the benefits of neither AKA a classical governmental project
>>16244918>inb4 Musk starts paying customers to launch on Starship
>>16244918Congress paid for that piece of shit with my money
>>16244918>David Willis
>>16244934>>16244942I still want to know what Beal thinks about SpaceX BDB-like stuff with the help of his old facilities. Some space journo should interview him
Is there 20 years of recycled air on the ISS? How often does the station get a full top off of new nitrogen and oxygen
>>16244934Get thisNo shitThey really (laughs)They they they actually Reuse - get this - the solid boostersand (out of breath)they (crying)THROW AWAY the the the fucking hydrolox enginesHahahahahano no no you don't get itThe The thing isThese enginesthat they throw awayWERE DESIGNED TO BE REUSABLE HAHAHABAHAHAHAHAOh they must mass produce-NOPE
>>16244967does it really matter if its only gonna launch 0.5-1 times per year?
>>16244918>government agency gets government funding Gigabrain thinking there anon
>>16244967I thought they threw away both.
>>16244918I makes me so mad that people think like this even though you're trolling
>>16244918It looks cool but now that it's been proven that reusable, landable rockets work, non-reusable rockets are a wasteful dead end.Especially when they are as ridiculously fucking expensive as the SLS.
>>16244968Yeah when the engines are like 250m a piece it does matter
what're you gonna set your personal tiger team of superintelligent AI agents out to do first, /sfg/? i'm thinking that starting off on boring shit like materials and electronics probably needs to happen before you move onto the good stuff like engines.
>>16244992Bioweapons lab that genetically designs a virus that kills Indians only with a 100% death rate. This is important for the future of space flight, despite what it will do to tesla's stock price
>>16244992In situ resource utilization is what almost all the focus should be on right now once we reach the Moon and Marsthere will be zero progress in /sfg/ without it
>>16244997that's not very nice. and India is a competitive spacefaring nation. maybe kill europeans. they can't seem to into space.
>>16245004just trust me it's important. lots of enclosed spaces with recycled air in our future. just trust me
Shieeet dem mayo monkeys finna go way up in a lil bithttps://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0620/1455670-space-dr-norah-patten/
>>16244918This is unironically communism.
>>16245011Nobody thinks that's a slur anon.
>>16245004silence poo
>>16245004>kill europeans. they can't seem to into spacehonestly this, crazy how a continent that loves to talk so much smack about the US still have not sent a man into space on there own.
>>16245004Shut up shitjeet
>>16244949that's what you get when politicians design your rocket
>>16245015>>16245024sorry fags, I'm a hu-white American. but real recognize real and India is putting in the work. keep being racist on 4chan though, maybe it'll make your country better at spaceflight
>>16245004>>16245031He's right. In terms of spaceflight India is well ahead of Yurop
>>16245031You have the hands of someone who's never worked a day in your life.
let us have a moment of silence for the 2 astronauts who will be riding the boeing to their deaths.
>>16245033It's the fuckin military schizo cult of passion
>>16244918low price is not low cost
>>16245034they signed up for it
>>16245031>muh guncringe, low IQ
>>16245031>month day year
>>16245042deal with it
>>16245038Did they though? Arent they just on a list and NASA assigns their rides?>ah sorry dude we know you were scheduled for the next crew dragon but we had to shuffle some things around and now you are on starliner Just fuck my shit up
>>16245031>simping for jeetsHonorary street shitter, hand in your gun and toilet. Also you'll be racist when you get 50k poojeets delivered into your neighbourhood.
>>16245042Go back. Now.
>>16244934Stephen Baxter is a retard
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1zY00nW>POLL ALERTEveryone vote on before or after mid August in this poll.
>>16245059found pdf
So they have a plan for block 2 of the SLSbut do they have a plan to make Orion's service module not suck complete ass
>>16245062>block 2>slsPick one
>>16245059>>16245061why isn't the cleansing of former british raj anywhere on this list, this is essential>>16245031you ever had to ride a bus with one of these guys? imagine sharing a space station. horrific
>>16245064Imagine the reactions when new visitors unseal the hatch
HEY YOU DUMB NIGGER CATTLE VOTE ON >>16245057 THIS STRAWPOLL ALREADY
>>16245061The first two steps on the critical path are a tragedy.>1. Shuttle>2. ISSDoomed. Imagine being so optimistic and watching nothing happen for 30 years
>>16245066most pointless poll ever
Good thank you for submitting your votes anons
>>16245070Every poll is pointless since it has no basis on the outcome. What is YOUR point?
>>16245072mongolian basketweaving forum posts, on the other hand...
>>16245061It has that tragic air of 80s and 90s spaceflight enthusiast hope-in-the-face-of-doom.Was this ever updated?
>>16245076Sir this is clearly a mexican propellant tank building forum
>>16245031
Explain how its pointless if votes are pretty evenly split. Also afterdoomers went from 75% to 43%. Shameful!
>>16245061
>>16245080Kek so true (am burgermutt)
>>16245081>>16245084Next time rename your files, faggot.
>>16245085No thanks I'm currently phone fagging and that takes too much effort. If that needs to be done to samefag I will post from my PC.
>>16245061what is shuttle II?
why don't we send a dirigible to Venus?
>>16245087oh hey i wonder if skyhook anon is still around...
>>16245090Why a skyhook? If you can build a tether for a skyhook surely you can also build one for a regular space elevator. Then you don't have to try and dock with a cable at hypersonic speeds
whats a world ship?
Oh. It's the 26th the starliner crew returns on. 12 day delay. Will that fuck onboard supplies
>>16245087there was a general expectation up through the 1990s that shuttle would be replaced by an improved spaceplane. you'll occasionally see people refer to a particular design with an ejectable cockpit from JSC in the early 90s as shuttle ii, but there were in fact many designs thrown around over many years. the only time we came close to getting a shuttle ii was venturestar.>>16245095i'm pretty sure skyhook is being used to mean a space elevator in this case. it's meant different things to different people over the years.
>>16245100They have to be mad to step back into that deathtrap. I wonder if the NASA niggers are going to can it because another shuttle tier rud would be a pr disaster. They really should just punt the fucking thing away with the canadarm, bring the crew down on the next dragon and tell boeing to get their shit together.
>>16244931correct. One of the victims was the NEAR solar sail asteroid mission
>>16245105>They really should just punt the fucking thing away with the canadarm, bring the crew down on the next dragon and tell boeing to get their shit togetherBut then Boeing's stock price would go down, and that would be bad for all the congressmen who own Boeing stock.
>>16245112Would it be worse than them immolating two astronauts
>>16245116Uh, yes? Ensuring the profits of billionaire stockholders and insider trading congressmen is literally more important than anything else on the planet. They create jobs, anon. How many jobs have these astronauts created? How many times have THEY been to Bohemian Grove? Exactly.
>>16245031Huwaito pigguGO HO!!!
>>16245116They can blame that on pilot error
https://x.com/johncoogan/status/1803802830492540966Hand-held sized nuclear fusion device. Costs ~$100K to build.
>>16245127saaarrrrr fusion is impossible please understand
>>16245127not spaceflight and not real
>>16245129Can be used in space and founded by former BO employee
>>16245130>Can be used in spaceincorrect, only real things can be used in space. VC-bait vaporware will not work there.
>>16245131No no actually watch the vid its interesting and actual spaceflight discussion. Am not the original anon.
>>16245130>former BO employeeLol lmao even
>>16245132i'm skipping through it and my original opinion stands. like helion they're acting like they're going to get an unproven fusion concept finished and commercialized in short order because hey, spacex did something hard once too. except this is a much harder problem than anything spacex has ever done and we still aren't sure it's going to work at all.
>>16245127I'm pretty optimistic about fusion and about "vaporware" companies but this is just ridiculous. They're claiming they can get energy from fusion AND they can do it without magnets and lasers somehow AND they can do it in a reactor the size of a PC somehow, that's 3 insane technological leaps in one. Even with all of those it's unlikely the energy produced is profitable.I don't see it, though it would be cool
>>16245127This bullish-bearish terminology needs to fuck off
>>16245158why are indians such insufferable pseuds?lmao
>>16245166There are 1.4b of them you will find every type of person in India.
>>16245168>>16245166There are psued everywhere in a 8+ billion world. We have multiple psueds who believe SpaceX is a fraud/Musk is a fraud/etc in just space domain. And space industry only occupies ~0.01% of the imagination of people. Each separate domain has their own pseuds.
>>16245168at least 1.35b of them are insufferable pseudschange my mind
>>16245166Long term occupation by foreign powers selects for smooth talkers and ass kissers
>>16245179I'm inclined to somewhat agree with this argument... it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective.
>>16245061>barely progressed 10 years (1998 tier) in 35 years
>>16245168except for one who can poo in loo
https://x.com/jenakuns/status/1803996227706720264>From the Source Selection for the MSR studies:>- Starship used up to landing (and potentially for ascent), with a demo mission targeted in 2029>- Blue Moon doing entirely propulsive EDL + Blue built hypergolic MAV>- Aerojet using skycrane + (maybe) hydrolox ascent vehiclefull FOIA'd pdf attached
>>16245059>>16245061we're only 20 years behind schedule, not great not terrible
>>16245194Blue Origin can only do all-propulsive EDL with an aerospike
>>16244690ayy nudes when?
>>16245213Done. My back still hurts.3/10 wouldn't worship again.
>>16245216you don't need a heatshield at all on mars if you're doing all-propulsive and new glenn would give them more than enough mass to pull it off
>>16245225It would be foolish to do it with a bell nozzle, absolutely retardedly inefficient. Mars' atmosphere is a free brake. An aerospike by design must be very heat resistant. Blue Origin has a patented aerospike, and is reportedly incorporating it into Jarvis.
>>16245227>aerospikememe>Jarvismeme>Blue Originbarely not a meme
>>16245227>absolutely retardedly inefficientnot when you have excess margin for a sample return and it can save you the trouble of designing something that has to handle aerodynamic entry
>>16245157Clearly they're time travelers or assisted by them.https://avalanchefusion.com/>working to bring fusion back from the future
>>16245232Blue Origin is king at overdesigning and complexifying. With BO there is no such thing as extra margin lol
>>16245095>If you can build a tether for a skyhook surely you can also build one for a regular space elevator.falsethe material requirements are totally differentthe total mass is totally different
>>16244897#teamboeing
this is what an aerospace engineer looks like show the children
>>16245274>helps them feel seen and heardwhat is peoples obsession with being validated by everyone they ever may or may not come in contact with?
>Shartliner specialist
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1803975366886736287>Saturday. Set your alarms for 9:00 a.m. Central [14:00 UTC]. Be sure you're subscribed and have notifications on. If you're a supporter, I'll have the review link ready tomorrow. Excited for you to see this!
>>16245280ANY /SFG/ PAYPIGGIES PLEASE POST THE LINK TODAY (FRIDAY) WHEN POSTED
>>16245282Spastic
>>16245284Hey dude! Tongue my anus!!
>>16245084>americans invent name for a certain group of people within america>non-americans coopt it and just use it to refer to all americansIs this going to become a recurring thing?
>>16245286LAL
anything interesting from the boeing CEO deposition?
>>16245287It has been for centuries. Everything from "yankee" to "cowboy" to "neocon" (dumb browns call anyone who supports any use of the US military a neocon) gets aped.
>>16245286Cause it was made pretty by a God it would actually be a good thing. Screaming slave boi.
>>16244997>genetically designs a virus that kills Indians only with a 100% death ratea particularly bad strain of Hepatitis A would do>It is usually spread by eating food or drinking water contaminated with infected feces.then again, their immune system must be so overdrive they might not even notice
>>16245077>Was this ever updated?yes in 1997
>>16245312>then again, their immune system must be so overdrive they might not even noticehttps://youtu.be/4MK5o9Vhiqk?si=yIe0Xgy5uem8yU1V&t=48https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xnrbzfOiYE
>>16245095>Then you don't have to try and dock with a cable at hypersonic speedsIts not the speed so much as the rather small time available to mate your cargo pod with the receiver on the skyhook tip
>>16245274>>16245275
>>16244968>per year?Try per decade.
>>16245318newest version is 1997? lmao
LEO on the CheapMethods for Achieving Drastic Reductionsin Space Launch Costs, 1994https://www.quarkweb.com/foyle/leocheap_book.pdf
>>16245318They were pretty optimistic
>>16245365>intergalactic stage in 2100yes, very optimistic.this is mass effect tier tech development speed.I still hope we will find some alien artefact that will allow a 500 year technology jump, that would be so fucking cool.
>>16245369It says>intragalacticThat means within the galaxy so merely going to Alpha Centauri counts
>>16245371oh that's right I read it wrong.maybe it's possible to get a generation ship to proxima before 2100... if no great filter event happens.
>>16245354if you closely compare the two you see the meme projects of the late 80s drop out and get replaced by the meme projects of the late 90s
>>16245374let's hope Artemis will not become yet another meme project.
>>16245374Can you return from Mars in such a way as to pick up the route and stop at EML2?
>>16245387absolutely. gateway has its name because it was justified as a testbed for a future electric propulsion craft to send stuff from NRHO to mars - saves a bunch of time if you don't have to spiral out of earth's gravity well first. it's probably never going to happen but if you imagine a world where we never went beyond falcon heavy it'd make a lot of sense.
>>16245061>Ad Astrakino
>>16245374since we're talking about meme projects... I didn't know the dearMoon mission was cancelled!wtf!any news about that? was it just delayed or...?
>>16245400Cancelled by MZ after he watched a thunderf00t vid and realized that Musk is con man
>>16245400Japanese guy didn't get the memo that SpaceX takes 5 times longer to do things than they say it would take.
>>16245402LEL>>16245405yeah but I was hopeful it was merely elon time and not an outright cancellation! Probably waiting 10 or whatever years more than predicted had its cost too for MZ.
How's the first catch attempt going to fail?
>>16245414There was also the matter that his little rags business hadn't been doing so well lately. Lose a billion of your money and you will rethink things.And going up to ISS partly satisfied his urge to go to space.
>>16245418spectacularlythat's why they're building a second tower already
>>16245274>>16245275>>16245279Llaughing at their diverstiiy hire eprogram ias all fine, but the real pproblem at 'Boeing' is that they have inherited teh MDD management practices that roughly translate to 'welll whoopsie looks like our aircraft just keep exploding and falling from the sky, sorry about that'
>>16245096A habitat. Feels so much like home that you can be born and die within it and not be bothered too much. Important for <1% light speed interstellar travel
>>16245096Craftworld from 40k
>>16245166>>16244997
>>16245420>>16245414>>16245405>>16245400the jap got ripped the fuck off. he was going to fly around the moon on falcon heavy which would have definitely happened by now, but elon did what elon does and persuaded him to spend hundreds of millions more to delay his own flight by a decade, LOL
>>16245042>month day year>June 21, 2024Yes, its easy to say.
>>16245440Elon was actually incredible by proving that you can finance multiple (ultimately successful and revolutionary) projects by building one Ponzi scheme on top of the other.
>>16245440>fly around the moon on falcon heavyElon was directly threatened by a senator who told him that if Falcon Heavy publicly demonstrated the capabilities of the SLS, SpaceX would never receive another penny from NASA. This is also what cancelled Red Dragon.
Clear is joining a harem
>>16245449Proofs?
>>16245234They're clearly referencing the Mr. Fusion from back to the future
>>16245454>Mr. Fusion from back to the futureThe what from where?
>>16245453Do you honestly think there would be a primary source for a fucking senator secretly making threats? The only reason we know about it at all is insiders posting anonymously online
>>16245234>https://avalanchefusion.com/this shit is laughable do any investors actually put their money in this?
>>16245450>marrying a moon rabbitmakes sense
>>16245059>>16245061Rockwell was dangerously based
>>16244933Stripes where a extra billion.
>>16245027Old space is a ugly thing.
>>16245457>https://youtu.be/ptlhgFaB89Y?si=c-pq1_HnRjJuTjROYou must be 18 years old or older to post on 4chan.
>>16245096A place where you can get a gundam sized monster wafiu
>>16245469I'm 23 and I've never heard of this show
>>16245104its a shame NASA fully abandoned reusability. Shuttle was an utter flop but they could have remedied so many problems with a new shuttle. I would go as far as saying they were in a better position than SpaceX is today from a position of knowing exactly what the problems are.Venturestar was a masterclass in retardation. Whoever approved an SSTO (or 1.5 stage to orbit or whatever it was) was nuts
>>16245474Good, that means no hollywood jew will think about making a woke reboot to profit of nostalgia.
>>16245469anon 18 year olds were born 17 years after this movie came out
>>16245475>Venturestar was a masterclass in retardation. Whoever approved an SSTO (or 1.5 stage to orbit or whatever it was) was nutsNo.
>>16245474hes a 60 year old millenial who has forgotten that its not 2014 anymore
>>16245474jesus fucking christyou have no memory of pic related?zoomers are disheartening for real
>>16245469>manchild is angry because someone didn't consume the same productlolgrow up
>>16245478aerospikes are meme tech with lower performance in all regimes than bell nozzles. the only advantage is that they can be used as a heat shield, which venturestar was not even going to do. It was scrapped because the tanks were too heavy and the specific impulse of the engine was el atrociad
>>16245483dude BTTF is a fundamental piece in the current scientific zeitgeistit single-handedly motivated millions of european scientists to pursue a high effort, low reward career.
>>16245486Okay, good for them.
>>16245440yep he essentially ripped of the Japanese guy
>>16245473sounds good to me
>>16245478Aerospikes are pure autism. Fixating on a particular aspect - needing different nozzle shapes - above all else. Meanwhile, the actual solution (many small engines, some vacuum some not) was totally ignored.
>>16245479
>>16245496
>>16245473>ice layer protectionok hear me out: ablative ice heatshields
>>16245498the actual solution was having your vacuum and non-vacuum engines be the same engine, and it was a solved problem at the time goldin decided he wanted to go SSTO. why the greatest SSTO engine of all time wasn't considered is a total mystery to me.
>>16245479>>16245483>It's current year unc KYS>>16245459They're betting on moonshots, even if they only put in like 50k, if it works that'd transform in tens of millions.Also to stay on topic some more detail on commercial MSR.
>>16245510>>16245459the stupidity of VCs should never be underestimated. there are plenty who will dump cash into anything that says "fusion" on the label without taking 30 minutes to try to learn the difference between pie-in-the-sky companies and ones with viable designs like commonwealth's tokamak
>>16245508SSTO is kino
>>16245478enjoy your external cargo cuck canister lol
Do you think a timeline where nasa chose to go with something besides the shuttle would be a better or worse timeline?
>>16245496she can kiss my rocket anyday
>>16245539Hi jeff bezos.When is new glenn lauching?
>>16245537I think more about the timeline where the russians sold musk their old rockets and spaceX took a completly different route based on russian rocket tech and failed.
>>16245544The timeline where the russians sold elon the rocket is the timeline where spacex never gets started because has no reason to make his own rockets.As well, spacex in our timeline takes most of their rocket design from the russians, musk said that the biggest influence on him was old soviet flight manuals. You can see this with the grid fins and kerolox cycle.
>>16245087Don't Call me a Homo
>>16245537everyone likes to imagine better ones but shuttle's expensiveness ended up being an asset for nasa at times. their budget was going to get cut to the point that it could barely sustain a manned LEO program and no more, and if they'd gone with anything cheaper the cuts would've been more drastic. something like big G seems fun in retrospect but everyone in nasa at the time knew it meant doomsday.
>>16245537>Shuttle alternativesNASA started shuttle development before Apollo 11. The only way would've been if NASA kept developing its' SHLLV technology into rockets like the Nova concept or NLS.
>>16245510>spacex has "excellent support from JPL"Thats interesting, considering JPLs supposed extreme opposition to red dragon. Is this spacex playing politics or has JPL decided to switch camps?
>>16245478That was for the Space Shuttle
>>16245510When are they going to make a decision?
>>16245194Who the fuck is whitting aerospace?Their website is blank.
>>16245450wtf she's flat
>Just throw it out the airl-ACK
>>16245598It missed the ocean, sadly
>>16245598I hope one of this pieces lands on me and cuts off one of my legs so I can apply for official NASA neetbucks
>>16245598some things like fecal matter and thrash can safely be thrown out the airlock
Seems like a majority of /sfg/ thinks that IFT-5 is before mid August. If you havent yet vote in >>16245057
>>16245612it is in two weeks
>>16245598>Because this case falls outside the Space Liability Convention, there is no mechanism for a US citizen to seek claims from the US government for damage from space debris.https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/06/family-whose-roof-was-damaged-by-space-debris-files-claims-against-nasa/grim
>>16245031Oh Effeminate One, did you know that pissrael has patented technology to identify individuals based on the veins in their hands?
>>16245613squared
>>16245555
>>16245598given the number of supposedly "demisable" stuff that end up on the ground, it seems the models saying "yeah this is going to burn up entirely in the atmosphere" are shit. I wouldn't be surprised if they find Starlink pieces in random places in the future
Why is SpaceX prioritising reusability instead of making Starship operational first? They could do a full orbit and decceleration burn on the next launch, maybe with another payload door test again, but they chose not to.
>>16245651Thats not how you design things fuckwit. Do you build your gaming PC with all the important bits like a good GPU and CPU in the beginning or do you first build it as your standard shitty office PC for no reason and THEN put in the gaming parts? No, you build it for what it needs to do first and dont do unnecessary detours. God some of you are so retarded
>>16245651Well,>orbitBeen done 10,000 times>doorReally?>reusable second stage Never been done in a meaningful way. Hard parts first
>>16245657I have an old optiplex that I put a gtx 750, and ssd, and more ram in. whole thing cost $115 and it runs ps2/gamecube emulators great
WHERE'S MY FUCKIN TOUR TIM, YOU SAID IT RELEASES 9:00 AM FOR PATREON
>>16245661Nobody cares retard. Not related to the analogy and not spaceflight fuck off
>>162456649AM west coast maybe?
>>16245651>Why is SpaceX prioritising reusability instead of making Starship operational first?because they have falcon 9 and heavy so they can already keep the business going while they perfect starship
>>16245665based irascible gatekeeper anon
>>16245664spaceflight standard time is central US time
>>16245665I also have an old atlas icbm that I put russian engines and a new centaur second stage on. runs high energy missions great
Tim Dodd spreadsheet reminder
>>16245677good times
>>16245677how long ago was it
>>16245677those were the days
>>16245287Non-Americans will continue to ape California and New York so long as Hollywood exists
>>16245625Then there must similarly be no mechanism for the US government to seek claims from a citizen for damage to the ISS from Earther weaponry
>>16245687I think it's getting better. A lot of young people prefer foreign entertainment, (including me).
Switch this fucking thread of now, get it off mah sci.
>>16245405Japanese fella lost all his money and didn't feel generous anymore
>>16245651Bc they are moving fast as shit and the difference between trying to get reusability right out of the gate vs figuring it all out later would only be like a 1 or 2 year difference overall, and they figure they can keep up with all their time table projections anyways.No one has been able to whip up engines, entire super heavy lift rockets, and implement changes on a whim the way SpaceX currently does.Now for someone like BO I would say it would be smarter to do expendable first just to get the damn thing flying already
Remember to report the namefag, he comes from the rest of /sci/ and sounds like B*rkun
>>16245629A cubic month?!
>>16245677I was there
>>16245691I have lived in foreign lands and it is truly depressing how much American TV and films foreigners watch. Doubly so if you're talking to one who can speak English.
>>16245677Absolute kino
>Sunspots AR3712 and 13 are so large, they're altering the sunrise, the two sunspots were easy to see as the sun rose in morning. Both have 'beta-gamma-delta' magnetic fields that harbor energy for strong X-class flares. https://x.com/ExploreCosmos_/status/1804122610122252594just cool auroras or tech apocalypse /sfg/?
>>16245723Nothing but clouds and rain for me for the next five days, so bet on spectacular auroras.
>>16245723pretty nothingburger
>>16245728Mouf
>>16245723>tech apocalypseI dont think a lot of /sfg/ anons would survive in that world.
>>16245723It'll miss us
>>16245651Because theyre out of money, they cant keep destroying 36 raptors every launch, thats why theyre so worried about starship being reused.
>>16245731Some of us will. Some of you won't.
>>16245658>orbit>Been done 10,000 timesMm ive ner seen starship in orbit, or are you so retarded to think falcon 9 is the same thing as starship?
>>16245737F in advance for Venus
>>16245738Musk just got paid over 50 billion by tesla.Spacex ain't running out of money anytime soon.
>>16244964it's probably still mostly the same nitrogen but the oxygen is getting constantly cycled through
>>16245742Venus could stand to loss some of that atmosphere the fat bitch
>>16245731It'd take like half a day for any educated midwit to make a basic generator with all the random shit we have around.
>>16245740Nobody will in a worst case scenario carrington event. All the nuclear plants&chemical plants in the world need a entire army of technicians and working infrastructure to keep them safe. We would have a world full of pressure cookers full of deadly shit slowly reaching a boiling point until they pop and spread their poison all over the world. Industry fires would spread like wildfire and the smoke&ash would destroy all flora&fauna.
>>16245742God I love the S-IV
>>16245723only hope of me being freed from 4chan
>>16245731I definitely would not.
>>16245754>Nobody will in a worst case scenario carrington event.Incorrect, failure of imagination and will.Reminder that humanity survived Toba. Some of us will be fine, most of you won't.
>>16245753>>16245754>>16245761>>16245758>>16245759Funny thing is the whole issue with solar flares taking out our electronics is that so much of our infrastructure is built on dated non-grounded plastic enclosures. A modern PC in a metal case (not one with a big glass window btw) that's actually grounded i.e: UK plug or UPS would probably be fine
Have you ever built a spaceflight related model?
>>16245763I understand the metal case part but why is grounding important?
>>16245763Now replace all the transformers who blew up that deliver power to that pc that is just fine. The ukraine war, where the russians have been targeting the power net has show how vital transformers are and how little we actually have in reserve world wide.
>>16245764/sfg/ mocked me for the crappy paint job on my vulcan centaur model the last time I posted it
>>16245766>how little we actually have in reserve world wide.We need the copper to build EVs please understand
>>16245765Infrastructure isn't protected, transformer damage would likely cause short circuits so you'll need good grounding.>>16245764Does the Lego LEM count?
>>16245761In a worst case scenario the entire world would be poisoned by nuclear plants melting down and chemical plants fires spreading forever chemicals all over the world. The survival of humans in world would be very hard on the fact that everything they will eat will poison them.
>>16245764I put together these steel models from time to time. But I'm really picky with the ones I buy.
>>16245772I don't think that's true at all, anon. We've seen plants melt down, we've seen chemical plants burn, these things have already happened before and the world kept turning. There would probably be some nasty no-go zones for a while but the whole world wouldn't be one, that's a gross exaggeration on par with thinking a nuclear plant makes a mushroom cloud when it fails.>>16245764Before my shitty printer died I printed a tiny Starship and Superheavy, about 4 inches or so when stacked. I cut a little bit of paperclip to make a post then melted it into the top of Superheavy, now it connects to a corresponding hole in the bottom of Starship so the stack holds together. It doesn't look great but it's fun to swoosh around.
>>16245783>it's fun to swoosh aroundyou make noises when you do that, don't you
>>16245783>I don't think that's true at all, anon. We've seen plants melt down, we've seen chemical plants burn, these things have already happened before and the world kept turning. There would probably be some nasty no-go zones for a while but the whole world wouldn't be one, that's a gross exaggeration on par with thinking a nuclear plant makes a mushroom cloud when it fails.Your talking about scenarios where the entire nation and the world came together to stop the plants from melting down in to the ground water, and decade long clean up work. Same with chemical plants, these chemical plants burning down were always stopped by firefighters and afterwards a massive clean up is needed. But how do you stop a industry fire when the waterpumps dont work, how do you do a massive cleanup effort when you cant even put food on the table becasue the entire food economy has collapsed?
>>16245785It's weird if you don't>>16245788I think your sense of scale is wildly off, anon. I doubt the Amish would even notice a complete collapse of "society" right away. I don't live anywhere near chemical plants or nuclear facilities, there's just nothing close enough to me to worry about that way, maybe you live closer to such places and have good reason to worry.
>>16245804Reminder that last year one derailed trail in rural american destroyed a shitload of flora&fauna, and they had to do a massive cleanup. Now have the same but all over the world, and you cant clean it up.
>>16245808That's one town anon. In Pennsylvania there are about 950 places big enough to be called a "town". There are 49 states in addition to Pennsylvania. Anon, the Earth is a very large place! We couldn't fuck it up that bad on purpose if we tried, let alone by accident/neglect.
>>16245800I would love to see starship on mars in 2029 but this will probably just be another timeline for thunderf00t to be smug about.
>>16245810>We couldn't fuck it up that bad on purpose if we tried, let alone by accident/neglect.>he posted with microplastics in his balls.
>>16245812hysteria about microplastics is a white woman phenomenon
>>16245537shuttle was unironically ahead of it's time, which was its problem. That's the entire reason they had all the retarded parts.The SRBs for example, because if the booster turned off at any point it would be fatal and when Shuttle was developed there were no liquid fuel engines in the world which were reliable enough.
>>16245816This, anon is an hysterical female and is therefore ignored.
>[!] BREAKING: FLORIDA MAN SUES NASA [!]
>>16245598airlack
>>16245824>The SRBs for example, because if the booster turned off at any pointlol that is not why they made the boosters srbs. That was so icbm manufacturers had a reason outside the military to keep making solid rockets.You fell for NASAs bullshit, they have a habit of making nonsense technical arguments for things they do for political reasons. Perfect modern example is orion. The reason why orion is so heavy and underpowered is so nothing besides SLS can lift it. But if you read NASAs technical arguments for why it is this way you'll see them claim the small rocket boosters on atlas are an unacceptable risk but the large solid rocket boosters on SLS are perfectly fine.They say whatever gets NASA the most funding.
>>16245824NASA was forced to use SRB's to keep the pork barrel going and to subsides American ICMB maintenance. Having the SRB's being shipped via barge in part was the reason for there being O-rings in the first place
>>16245450Is this yuri?
>>16245824Shuttle used SRB for the same reason SLS does, lobbying and military industrial base subsidies.
>>16245453>Proofs?It was revealed to me (and the anon who posted >>16245449, I assume) in a Hacker News post. (The Red Dragon part, at least.)https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26274117
>>16245833NASA being honest about that stuff would be briefly hilarious until all their ongoing projects got canceled.
>>16245859Honestly I don't think it would amount to much. Actually doing something useful is not the point of NASA.
Why does NASA have to be the ones to keep icbm manufacturers in business? now that we have the space force they can be the ones requesting icbms strapped to the sides of rockets and we don't have to do this little song and dance to pretend we actually care about solid rockets for space launch
>>16245731look around, we're already in a tech apocalypse. 500,000 tech jobs were lost in the last 18 months in the US alone.
>>16245800this is why elon said the other day that they want to land on mars asap. because they can make money from it.
>>16245874They will be fine, they can always flip burgers and suck dick.
>>16245874AI obsoleting so much of the financial and tech jobs will be such a relief.
>>16245868>Why does NASA have to be the ones to keep icbm manufacturers in business?During the shuttle era NASA was the only org to do anything with rockets.Nowadays theres absolutely no reason to do launch vehicles with SRBs.
>>16245800Seems pretty fine. The current pace of Starship seems like it would be on track to deliver Artemis so Mars a few years later isnt crazy.
>>16245880What's the point of a population of 8 billions when the majority of labor gets automated? We are in danger.
>>16245275
>>16245891To consume and produce exceptional individuals. The point isn't that every person contributes equally, it's that with more people there's a larger chance of great people being born.
>>16245004>GAG A NYANN
>>16245891>Anon still believes most "people" have some kind of inherent value
>>16245898Back to >>>/a/ >>>/lgbt/ >>>/v/
>>16245834“NASA was forced to do this”“Ummm yeah well NASA had no choice… they HAD to do that”At some point it stops being a game of ‘congress said’ and starts being the reality of ‘NASA is just as political and stupid with decisions as congress is with the purse’NASA put man on the Moon and launched Skylab—but after that it’s been go fever, academic politics, and bad choices even when there were options. I’m not apologizing for the same brain rot that got us oldspace complacency
>>16245904Learn to greentext your quotes newfag
>>16245898that's a man
>>16245004every space program, literally every single one: spaceships are whiteindia: MAKE IT POOP COLORED SAAR
>>16245915SLS retard back to >>>/pol/
Estrogenated Astronaut dropped the tour video btw. Still not paying tho
>>16245922sls is a rocket
>>16245904>NASA is just as politicalThe top positions are political appointments of management is political, but I'm not going to pretend that the average engineer working there has any real say on the overall directions of their programmes.Nixon had won the space race and wanted to introduce budget cuts but couldn't be seen to abandon space altogether so decided on building LEO infrastructure, the very idea of a fully reusable shuttle and booster were abandoned because of a lack of future funding and political willpower to see such a programme to fruition.The OMB forced NASA to chose SRB's over liquid boosters even though liquid offered a lower cost/flight, in the conclusions of the final report of the programme definition NASA even acknowledges that environmental conditions would affect launches.
>>16245915I take it you've never actually seen any spacecraft. or even photos of them
>>16245931Morton-Thiokol needed jobs too.
>>16245898too based for this general
>>16245915Is that a non-white spacecraft?????????!AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>16245936Those fuckers too, begging for money from USAF after they got their own projects cancelled and then being forced by the DoD and NRO to hand over primacy on the design process is further proof that NASA wasn't completely in charge of the programme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPhhP_tfwHMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPhhP_tfwHMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPhhP_tfwHM
>>16245942I'm just glad NASA has shifted to buying "launch services" and taking Congress's hands out of the design process.
>>16245943I don't feel so good Mr. Musk
>>16245194How come no sample return rendezvous with the ISS and uses a regular return flight to re-enter. Seems like is could save a lot of complexity.Could use the nanoracks airlock.
Do you think SUSIE will ever get funded by ESA?I think it's a good looking craft.
>>16245958>SUSIE>just a mini starshipZubrin wins again
Hybergoligs :DDD
>>16245764I think it would be fun to build a working model (I don't have the tools or ability) or code a simulation.
>>16245960It seems to be just a starship rip off yeah. Why do oldspace always try to do orbital reuse first? Thats the way harder step.
>>16245768>my vulcan centaur model
>>16245957Mostly because it means you can't do a direct aerobrake entry and requires more propellant for docking maneuvers.
>>16245946>That ILRS concept renderAbsolutely grim, it's an antenna and a few solar panels that are visited by Apollo-era landers >>16245985Seethe more
>>16245969Oldspace is stuck in expendable booster hell without a Starlink scale project to self fund iterative booster development. Starship is going to destroy most of what's left besides deliberate subsidy of Starship competitors by governments.
>>16245991>Starship is going to destroy most of what's left besides deliberate subsidy of Starship competitors by governments.I don't think the government will subsidize expendable launchers. There are other companies like BO and RL planning rockets geared towards constellations, more likely I think is that the likes of boeing and lockheed martin will just cede the launch market to newspace.
>>16245998Where??
>>16245997>boeing and lockheed martin will just cede the launch market to newspaceIf you'd asked me a decade ago I'd've said they would sooner assassinate Elon Musk. Boeing has been pretty clear on the latest earnings calls though, they just want out.
>>16245972Cute!
>>16246029Boeing and Lockheed need to go back to making more airplanes, especially Lockheed getting back into the civilian airline game with their Hercules and some new jetliners. The recent Boeing quality control issues show the danger of a domestic monopoly.
>>16245998I don't like those guys
>>16245304>dumb browns call anyone who supports any use of the US military a neoconI see you
>>16246027On the moon
>>16245958Not likely. The payload capacity of reusable upper stages on medium or even heavy lift launch vehicles is too poor to justify the expenditures in the booster.
>>16245738*39
>>16245677qrd NOW!
>>16245692nigger
>>16245677Too bad no one on sfg is stupid enough to pay for that ahit now
>>162460812nding
>>16246081You had to be there
>>16245898isnt this the vtuber that did the pomf pomf song before they were a vtuber?
>>16246085>>16246087i found this in the archive
>>16245768I recommend going to ask /tg/ how to paint things
>>16246027
>>16244912should've been "leak helium in ten manifolds"
>>16245785bizarre mechanical venus rover instead of simply using a stirling heat pump to cool off the electronics to normal temperatures
>>16245800remember when it was supposed to land on mars in 2020
>>16246084in a way it's a sign of how sophisticated the average /sfg/er is.
>>16246104"in" instead of "on" always seemed strange to me about this image.
>>16246107Could have happened Red Dragon in an alternative time where Musk gave up on space colonization dream.
>>16246111coon spasms are not known as bastions of intellectual thought, anon
>>16246091>it's already been 2 years since that
>>16246111It's very old so the zeitgeist hadn't yet absorbed the moon as a place to stand on rather than an abstract celestial body. Same as the HG Wells book "The First Men In The Moon"
>>16245031Those hands have never seen a single day of labor.
>>16245958This image reminded me of something I was confused about, why is Starliner allowed to land on land but Crew Dragon isn't?
>>16246118That's a crazy thing to think about.
>>16246122It's not about "allowed." It's just designed to do that, in the same way that Soyuz isn't designed to do very well if it lands in the water.
Has building on Mars been figured out yet? I don't buy the 3d printed bug house for a fucking second
>>16245972>>16246031Indeed
>>16245483>BTTF Kino>Consumer slopYou must be 30 to post here
>>16246141yeah, martian dwellings are going to be made mostly out of pine 2x6's, sheetrock, and plywood. with aluminum siding and fiberglass insulation.
>>16245503regenerated with the urine produced by the crew?
>>162461413D printed house has issues with regulations on Earth. We can't just rend a 3D printer for house and print one on a land you own. You need to go through all sorts of bureaucracies. And there's no such thing as a place without bureaucracies on land as every piece of land on Earth is under some sort of legal jurisdictions. Even if you travel to the middle of nowhere to build a 3D printed house on a land you buy, you need permits and such
>>16246156Lots and lots of scrap
>>16244897Media is starting to dogpile them too
>>16246161looks like a slum
>>16246159surely you dont need permits to throw up a shack in the sahara
anyone got the everyday astronaut upload yet
>>16246170Wouldnt you know you fucking pigger scum
>>16246170It's one of "those" neighborhoods.
>>16246177fuck off ztard. your hero putin will ack before you win.
>>16246181You seem mad.
https://x.com/SheriffGarza/status/1804206456884830404Coming Tuesday, static fire test?
>>16246177>be zigger>traumatized by the pigger>have to mention them every single hour of the day out of the blue to complete strangersmindbrokenanyway, when the fuck is someone gonna early leak that goddamn estronaut tour.
https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1804211172637589815Starlink/SpaceX + Comcast collaboration to expand services
It's hot. Real hot.Across the country, Americans are experiencing record-breaking heat. NASA is here to help. The data we collect—through our fleet of satellites—helps the world track and navigate extreme weather in real-time
>>16246190unbelievably based pic
>>16246141It'll include 3d printing but it won't be shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIrH01N9AsE
>>16246225
>>16246141Looks like the proontingfag is back.
I can't decide if I want to live inside a proonted habitat, bored tunnel habitat, inflatable habitat, or metal cylinder habitat.
>>16246238reminder that thomas edison had mastered poured habitats in the 1910s and they were more luxurious than marshabs will EVER be
>>16245771>Does the Lego LEM count?Yes>>16245783Estes sells a Falcon 9 rocket but so far no Starship. They're probably waiting for it to get out of the development stage. >>16245776Think I had that type of model in my stocking one year but it was a bus or something so it got lost in the bottom of my closet. The ones you have look nice.
>>16246196Very cool
>>16245783based autistic toy woosher
>>16246159Going to throw the "actually" card and say there are a couple of small areas that are unclaimed by anyone because doing so would invalidate other larger claims. Then there's Marie Byrd Land, which is as annoying to build in as it would be on Mars but in different ways.
Why China is winning the EV war (It's the battery)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkxMdmipYqMDidn't watch but the title is interesting
>>16246249i am so trolled right now. congrats anon. you got me.
>>16246249Did you get lost on the way to /evg/?
back you go >>>/g/
>>16246247Iowa needs to put her tits away so we can focus on the rogget
>>16246196Why would they let Comcast resell their service? There must be some significant upcharge Comcast is planning to add for providing nothing extra to the value proposition.Orrrrr looking at the news, this is making the rounds. Guess Comcast is desperate to roll out something, anything, and Starlink is more than happy to finally get the money they were originally going to make from the program anyway
>>16246251why are you trolled
>>16246196>>16246246I understand jeff has his own rocket business but it’s a shame Amazon couldn’t close a deal with Starlink. The two of them combined could have turned space into a trillion dollar economic sphere. They could have built their own internet from scratch if they wanted
>>16246262They are building an internet from scratchGuess who can't tap space and is starting to get a little concerned about that fact
>>16246249Incomplete and disingenuous. They only mentioned China from China's POV, but nothing about rest of the world. One particular take is this.>China forced Tesla to use Chinese battery Tesla buys huge amounts of batteries from China because its just cheaper. Tesla wanted Panasonic to make more, but they aren't expanding or expanding slowly. Tesla made their own. Tesla has the largest battery infrastructure in the US, none of these are mentioned. I get that Bloomberg is owned by a Biden voting Billionaire and the reporters lean towards that, but if you're excluding 90% of the world and only focusing on China's story, its an incomplete story at best.
>>16246256she'd have to go on a diet first.
>>16246271That won't be happening
>>16246274yeah okay bro
>>16246275>>16246271Niggers
>>16246249opening line:>In 2024 Ford Motors Quebec production on their F-150 Lightning???
>>16246277Where??
>>16246277you.
>>16246259Two reasons I can think of: first is redundancy. If Comcast goes down, which it does, your business connection is automatically switched over the Starlink. The other is for large Comcast customers who have locations that aren't serviced with regular Comcast infrastructure. Maybe you have five hundred stores and 430 of them are in Comcast service areas and the other 70 aren't. This lets you deal with just one provider for all your internet connectivity needs.
I'm just skeptical that you would want such a vital piece to be dependent on a completely novel technology. How would those big printers even work? All the demos I've seen use concrete, which is made from fossils, which only exist locally. Also your printer would need to be moved to Mars, and your buildings would be limited by the printer size. That's a big problem when 90% of your square footage is necessarily open floor factory. This is a huge problem for there to be no immediately obvious right answer. >>16246225>>16246229 Those robots are science fiction right now and there's nothing more to say about that.>>16246242This is what I'm thinking, if you have a pourable construction material then panelized construction would be way easier. Hell if Starship works then CMU construction might make the most sense. >>16246231You have schizophrenia
>>16246296>You have schizophreniaWhatever you say, proonter.
>>16246285no matter how much you force this gay rocket as a meme nobody cares.
>>16246304it's a beautiful shot, anon
>>16245582That's so hot
>>16246262if Jeff had been an ally to Elon instead of a shit-talking, lawsuit bringing, contract stealing little bitch we could have had SpaceX squared and probably had a Stanford torus being built by reusable Starships by now
>>16246312This, Bezos is a fucking idiot. Why does he care about the rocket part so much? They aren't even mentioned in BO's mission statement. There are enough problems to be solved and I imagine enough of an interested market to justify research into habitats starting immediately. He could be half the Starship customer base without noticing a change in his bank account.
>>16246304
>>16246118>Same as the HG Wells book "The First Men In The Moon"Its called that because the ayy bugs the Earthmen encounter live underground you ignoramus
>>16246170rustsuckers are animals living in filth
>>16246322>>16246312entrepreneurship is just the ancient drive for personal glory and fame slightly sublimated. you don't put your name in the history books by teaming up with the competiton. it's easy to decry the irrationality of it, but founding space startups at all is irrational by most people's reckoning.
>>16246322if he had put as much time money and effort into developing a LEO station (luxury hotel? first vacation home owned by a billionaire? how about both- a timeshare) as he has his little penis rocket carnival ride and all his other long-over-budget and long-overdue rockets the thing could have been lofted by a half dozen Falcon9s or a few Falcon Heavy by now and he could be sitting pretty and be seen as the tip of the spear "space guy" and not just nipping at other's heels
>>16246333What the hell are you talking about? A guy who bought land in 1750 to grow cabbages is an entrepreneur. You're talking about ego impeding the free market
More launches
>>16246333>it's easy to decry the irrationality of itit's even easier to decry his impeding progress by others and him squandering money and talent, he's actually harmed humanity with his petty and misguided "efforts" so far
>>16246212How does that help me? I'm still hot.
>>16246346Stop asking questions
>>16246336Doesn't he pull out ten billion a year? He could launch like 10 ISSs of mass on the falcon 9 every year
>>16246337A billion dollars don't buy you game.
>>16246351not his problem. find your own customer, elon.
why should we even bother colonizing mars before we have a self-sustaining moon base capable of assembling and launching rockets?not having to launch from the surface of the earth would be way more fuel efficient and also would allow for you to build rockets that don't need to care about aerodynamics (so you could have one with a large habitation ring without worrying about aerodynamic drag ripping it off on ascent)
>>16246296The little ones sure, but work is already underway for autonomous robots to do the same thing
>>16246358
>>16246346GO INTO THE WATER
Proonterfags, know your place
>>16246356currently his problem is that he doesn't have anything in orbit despite prices going way down. his ego is the reason he doesn't have a space hotel, that's it
>>16246361gee, thanks nasa
>>16246339the free market's success owes entirely to its ability to innovate, and you have no innovation without the possibility of building your own little business empire to control monopoly rents for a time. that's schumpeter in a nutshell. all the stuff about efficient allocation of goods in equilibrium is just window dressing.>>16246344one could similarly look at late republican rome and decry all the infighting and intrigue as a squandering of talent, but a more astute historian could look at it and see that it was the heightened sense of conflict that produced great men and forced outward expansion. there is no caesar without a crassus and there is no musk without a bezos.
>>16246312no we wouldn't. We need competition. ULA was a manufactured monopoly and look what's happened
https://spacenews.com/house-intelligence-chair-blasts-white-house-over-russias-space-nuke-threat/Russia has nuclear anti-sat weapon that can put out EMP in LEO and destroy good chunk of satellites. Possibly creating kessler syndrome. Biden officials wont divulge information. For the fear that it would undermine US support for the war in Ukraine.
>>16246363define prooonterfag for me
>>16246371>Russia has nuclear anti-sat weapon that can put out EMP in LEOthe US has had that for like 60 years. look up starfish prime.Now fuck off ESL zigger
>>16246372You had to be there.
>>16246371biden won't divulge the information because we have nothing beyond circumstantial evidence and speculation. if you're going to be making accusations on an international stage you need to have something more than "it's in a funny orbit".
>>16246351yes, I was going minimal but you are correct if he hadn't dumped it all into developing all of these pie-in-the-sky rockets he could have assembled a really impressive structure in LEO, a few dozen Falcon 9 launches over the last half a decade could have built him quite the floating castle by now and kept it inhabited with him and his people (you know, sycophants and hispanic MILFs)
>>16246371Russia also claimed they have hypersonic rockets, but then the the ukkies shot one out of the sky with a patriot rocket. Russia also claims they have a wunderwaffe that can destroy all of the united kingdom in a tsunami. Meanwhile russia is fighting ukraine with 40 year old tanks with optics of the last century.
>>16246379Living in space would suck ass without artificial gravity.
>>16246371>put out EMP in LEO and destroy good chunk of satellitesThat's not how it works>Possibly creating kessler syndrome.That's not how that works either>Biden officials wont divulge informationFor the same reasons that they won't divulge any info about HAARP being a secret weather control weapon>it would undermine US support for the war in UkraineHow is it supposed to do that?
> /k/atamites shitting up the thread talk spaceflight or gtfo
>>16246371>Biden officials wont divulge informationbecause it doesn't exist
>>16246381And it would be pretty much impossible because of fluids building up long term in places in the body in low G that they dont really have a solution for now.
>>16246371This triggered the bots lmao
>>16246386>tankie comes in spreading propaganda. >people call him out on it>retards go "fucking /k/ shitting up the board again!!!"
>>16246392Fuck off /k/ike
How did Biden trannies become the dominant voice on /k/? What the fuck happened to that board?
>>16246392He’s right y’know kek
>>16246392the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee is a tankie, confirmed
>>16246395It's all glowniggers and easily duped morons
>government accounts are now advertising nuclear supportNERVA bros, things are looking up.
>>16246369old-space and their old-space ways could have been killed off by an alliance of Bezos and Musk, as is, if old-space or their even just their infuriating practices are alive and well 10 years from now it will be thanks to Bezos I'm sure
>>16246373retard, we have a hundred times more to lose up there than they do so what does it matter that we could do it too, why would we, you dumb kikel?
>>16246402ill suck biden's cock if I see the NERVA in my lifetime
>>16246406>we're excited to announce a partnership with the future of American space flight: ULA and Blue Origin
>>1624638152 one week visits per year by paying customers wouldn't "suck", tard, think of how he tries to entice suckers into paying for his little rocket hop and how he could charge a hundred times more for one of these adventures, now do you get it?
>>16246407guess I'll shoot myself
>>16246406I see what you're doing. You are much younger than Biden. You are trying to get out of the deal hoping he will die soon? Even if NERVA complete by 2050 Biden will be dead, so you are trying to get out of paying the deal anyway
>>16246371>le kessler syndrome>in LEOgo back to r*ddit
>>16246413you can still suck a corpse's cock
>>16246410Oh my sweet summer child.https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/rballard_ntp_update_oct2019_508.pdf?emrc=252440
>>16246357IIRC (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong), Mars is only twice the delta-v as the Moon. Simply going to Mars and back is much easier than setting up an industrial manufacturing system on the Moon.
>>16246413ill scheme however hard it takes to get advanced propulsion systems
>>16246414Thank you for covering me there anon.
>>16246141It'll require heavy machinery but Martian cities will be in pressurized glass-topped artificial canyons
>>16246426
>>16246402>formerreeeeee stop closing plants you fags
>>16246416whywould you call yourself ultra safe nuclear corporation? retarded name. blue origin is a flop name too. One thing musk is great at is coming up with a banger name
>>16246371>For the fear that it would undermine US support for the war in Ukraine>Oy vey, this is serious, much much more serious than our southern border being wide open or the dollar's precipitous decline in value!
>>16245625insurance should cover it no? this is specifically NOT an act of god
>>16246426Aren't the rocks themselves poisonous? I don't think this works either. Is beautiful though
>>16246312>>16246322Bezos should have unironically leveraged his Amazon expertise and essentially built a new generation aerospace supply chain to feed the new space beast that is growing. Instead, he made a vanity project and will forever be remembered as a salty bitch within the aerospace world.
>>16246371The thing with EMPs is that they're not directional. They can't be focused. They're an expanding bubble once triggered. They may take out a huge portion of satellite infrastructure in orbit, but at the consequence of taking out a lot of your own infrastructure and spy hardware and your allied hardware TOO. Something something bold move cotton,
https://x.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1804292588981149820Catch test render
>>16246444>On Dec 4 1995, the NRC received anon. allegations re the Maine Yankee Atomic Power Station.>That the licensee for MY, knowingly performed inadequate analyses of the emergency core cooling system and the containment to support applications for increases in the licensed maximum reactor power level.>bunch of other stuff such as on-site engineers not giving true statements on steam dump valves>Company running the plant shuts it down instead of regulator Seems like a classic case of some higher-ups kept asking for higher MWt limits to just make easy money while ignoring proper upkeep >https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/enforcement/actions/reactors/ea96299.html
>>16246436can you find some new pics to post? you've posted these already
>>16246480Russia doesnt have many. US has a lot. Specifically Starlink and many other small sats that do recons. Further they know where their sats are and they know where US sats are. There region where Russian assets is none-minimal in LEO and US LEO sats are maximized is quite a lot. So plenty of opportunity. When Musk taunted "we can put up sats cheaper than you can launch rockets to take down sats", they propped this solution instead.
>>16246141It'll be habs and cabs for first generation. Followed by heavily copying architecture out of South America like Brazil and Argentina, where they build INTO the mountain faces rather than create a depression in or remove the mountains entirely like burgers, in order to create city. Which allows you to have an external face and a cavernous internal structure supported by the mountain. In the case of Mars, it'll be particularly important as you'd want all your flora/fauna as much as possible heavily shielded by rock and dirt to the effects of solar radiation and statically saturated Martian regolith. Generation 2.5 will also evolve to include: >>16246436. Gen 3 will expand this further to have domed cities with transparent alloys in combination of mountain and cavernous cities/facilities. The biggest limiting factor to the pace of development will be rate of water extraction from martian soil and location of underground brine aquifers which will be distilled and purified for use by humans, flora/fauna and manufacturing/mining/production facilities.
They don't know when they're going to burn them up in reentry.
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>>16246498Is this the most insane idea in rocketry that actually made it past sketches?
>>16246490>Russia doesnt have many. US has a lot. Specifically Starlink and many other small sats that do recons. Further they know where their sats are and they know where US sats are.Entirely irrelevant. For an EMP to be significantly effective to be able to impact a statistically significant portion of US assets and the starlink network means that it will have to be very strong, and if its very strong, no Russian or Chinese or any other its allies who have hardware in orbit will be safe. Also, if and when they decide to use this, they will have to pull their cosmonauts from the ISS first or they'll doom them to asphyxiation a 100km above the surface as every means of coming home becomes a floating coffin. And when they do pull all their cosmonauts, that immediately violates the treaty between the US and Russia on ownership and peaceful cooperation between the two. Russia pulling the cosmonauts would be as blatant as holding up a giant fucking red flag the size of your mom that Russia's about to starts some major shit.
>>16246492>le radiation memeI think I remember hearing it isn't actually that bad.
>>16246503Propulsive landingBellyflop maneuver to save energy for landing burn
>>16246498They'd better run this test using the acceleration data from Booster 11's landing burn
>>16246504A small scale detonation that kills couple hundred Starlinks is probably worth it to Russia. You now realize the initial weapon doesn't have to kill all the sats, but rather demonstrate it on small enough scale to threaten the US. Particularly, threatening Starlink could do that.
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>>16246504Pretty sure no country would let the lives of a handful of civilians in an inherently dangerous job jeopardize a massive & risky military operation. If Russia used a space EMP, those astronauts are toast.
>>16246477this, he will be forever remembered by me as the guy who hosed William Shatner down with champagne after his little ride up and back down in Jeff's embarrassingly phallic looking toy rocket, oh and I think he ate a lizard once too
>>16246506Its about establishing long term tolerances for the flora and fauna we intend to grow and have on the surface of this planet. Humans are willing to risk and tolerate a lot of dangerous shit in the name of adaptation, including death. It's more serious if the radiation poisons your crops, which you are going to consume at scale. Most importantly though, 9/10 times, it's likely not going to be serious but in the 1/10 chance when you have a solar maximum period with X class flares spewing tons of material and charged particles out into the system and say if Mars is in its path. THAT is where this protection matters the most. Because Mars' atmosphere is a mere 1% the density of Earth's, and its magnetosphere is mostly gone at this point relative to Earth. So the amount of protection from this ionized radiation is vastly lesser than Earth.>>16246517The whole point of a military operation is that the enemy doesn't see you coming. If you pull ALL your cosmonauts from the ISS, that violates a treaty and basically would trigger Biden picking up the phone to Russia, dialing up Putin and asking "you really want a war asshole?" It's like wearing a t-shirt that says "imma stab you" while holding a knife in front of someone. You may succeed, but your element of surprise is lost.>>16246510Again, you're not paying attention. There won't be anything small scale in this demonstration. There's over 6k satellites in LEO and the EMP is a perfectly spherical expanding bubble. This means that everything in atmosphere is ALSO impacted. An EMP to take out a few hundred Starlinks means everything in a few thousand square kilometers below is also impacted. Say, there's about 100 planes flying over ocean or land here; the EMP takes all of them out, because it 100% will. They're now ballistic bombs. Everyone onboard is dead on impact. Everyone below will die. Where it lands also will see damage. EVERYONE IS NOW PISSED AT YOU. If this is over China, they want your blood. GG.
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>>16246528Dumb. Space is big.
https://blogs.nasa.gov/boeing-crew-flight-test/2024/06/21/nasa-boeing-adjust-timeline-for-starliner-return/>NASA and Boeing leadership are adjusting the return to Earth of the Starliner Crew Flight Test spacecraft with agency astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams from the International Space Station. The move off Wednesday, June 26, deconflicts Starliner’s undocking and landing from a series of planned International Space Station spacewalks while allowing mission teams time to review propulsion system data.
All of you popsci faggots need to shut up about EMP. You do not know what you're talking about. EMP is not the potential hazard in this scenario.
>>16246498>>16246503>>16246508Slowly lowering it seems counter productive. It would be more realistic to have placed about a few meters above the chopsticks and then simulate a fall onto them to really test the catch, as that's what the booster is actually going to do. It's not going to be a perfect catch the first time, given the clear lack of margins in fuel on the descent from the past flight. It's probably going to take a few tries maybe up to half a dozen or full before they figure out the fuel margins to perfectly catch it and not worry about the drop. Still, a booster catch of something this massive is bonkers. If it succeeds on the first try, it will move SpaceX which is a league of their own currently though somewhere within reach due to their propulsive landing capabilities cadence, all into an entirely new echelon of aerospace that combined planetary state actors would not be able to compete with. Elon's risking a lot with attempting to catch the booster the first time. I think everyone else is desperately hoping it basically ballistically takes out the tower, as that will set SpaceX back nearly a year or more, and given lawyers and regulators with hostile activist interests the ability to slow down or stop SpaceX from getting ahead further. In the odd chance they actually succeed, the entire aerospace sector that is competing in the heavy and super heavy lift segment is seriously in danger. As a caught booster via tower would demonstrably lower the cost to orbit per kilogram from a few thousand per kg to a few hundred per kg. It's Wayland Yutani levels of madness.
>>16246528>It's more serious if the radiation poisons your crops, which you are going to consume at scale. Retard
>>16246534>moved to “some time in July”AAAAAAAHEHEJRIWORKFIWIRJFJ THEYRE GOING TO DIEEEEEE UGH FUCK BOEING
>>16246534>July 20th draws ever closer
>>16245004Just kill the dalits.
>>16246540https://twitter.com/DerekdotSpace/status/1804309267077374221>Something I have been told repeatedly by folks who work on Starliner is "If we were worried about the vehicle's safety, we would already be back on the ground." Spending more time in orbit for more data is a REALLY good thing to prepare for operational missions.
>>16246402Yeah, and it's so radioactive you can't approach within 20 miles
>>16246545>Cars 10's of metres awayKek, that's not how nuclear waste containment work chud
>>16246533You'd best hope there's no planes that sphere of influence when it goes off, or your allies will become your enemies that will make sure you never see the light of day again.
>>16246545chatGPT4o, pull up a source on this 4chan DOT org post
>>16246534Comrade Komarov sends his regards
>>16246544>"If we were worried about the vehicle's safety,You should always be nervous about a new vehicle. Fucking POOing
>>16246536Pigger scared of Russia space capabilities?
>>16246534Nice more time for helium to leak. This thing is going to run out of prop and leave those poor bastards spinning around in a random orbit until they die.
>>16246528>The whole point of a military operation is that the enemy doesn't see you coming. If you pull ALL your cosmonauts from the ISS, that violates a treaty and basically would trigger Biden picking up the phone to Russia, dialing up Putin and asking "you really want a war asshole?" It's like wearing a t-shirt that says "imma stab you" while holding a knife in front of someone. You may succeed, but your element of surprise is lost.
>>16246561I can almost taste the vatnik tears in this post.
good morning fuckers. another day, another day closer to IFT-5.
https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1804306115087253903>Starliner CFT: No new problems have surfaced since the June 26 date was announced eight days earlier, and Starliner commander Butch Wilmore and Sunita Williams are still cleared to undock and fly home at anytime if a station malfunction or other issue crops up that requires a quick exit; as such, they are not "stranded" in space>>16246557It's not leaking right now. It won't start leaking again until they restart the propulsion system
>>16246553https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime>The explosion released roughly 10^29 electrons into the Earth's magnetosphere. While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the Earth. The added electrons increased the intensity of electrons within the natural inner Van Allen radiation belt by several orders of magnitude. In the months that followed, these man-made radiation belts eventually caused six or more satellites to failIt's not the EMP that's the potential danger. Something like this is also a hollow threat. It'd kill a lot of starlink satellites, but it'd also affect a lot of China's Gaofen satellites, and Russia needs China as a potential ally more than it needs to kill of satellite communication in Ukraine.
>>16246476Not in the slightest. The perchlorate is a thin layer of dust.
>>16246566>It's not leaking right nowdo you really believe it
>>16246538too bad they don't have an expendable barge rigged up to conduct this "catch testing"
>>16246563kek, you say the most cringy things, anon
>>16246574Has this been 100% confirmed? What are the conditions that form it? That would seem more manageable
>>16246569>>16246563Redditor ukroid manlets detected
>>16246548>You'd best hope there's no planes that sphere of influence when it goes off, or your allies will become your enemies that will make sure you never see the light of day again.when does hyperbole cross into hysteria?
is the moon big, /sfg/? i had my guy walk around on it in kerbal and it looked like the biggest thing ever, but when i look at it in the sky it's pretty small. i don't know what to believe now.
>>16246617it's this big
>>16246617here's a fun little trick, hold out a dime at arms length. it will completely cover the moon. that's just how small the moon is. don't believe KSP, it's just a video game.
>>16246620should ceres be colonized or turned into habitats? how many km^2 of livable area could we scrape out of this thing?
>>16246626ceres should just be scrapped yes
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>>16246635What the fuck Elon
>>16246628~3.85x
>>16246641Shut up tubby
>>16246626quick math says 182 billion sqkm, or around 350 times the surface area of Earth
I've not followed the Boing! shitshow because it's Boing! and no one cares. What is the latest? Are the astronauts dead yet?
>>16246656That would be 200 million Island Threes. The current population would fit 40 to a habitat lol. And that's just ceres.
>>16246661I am just annoyed at the fact if they do burn up and die it's going to totally negatively affect all aspects of the space exploration landscape for years.With Boing screwing up, you just know SpaceX will feel some of the repercussions as well even though they had nothing to do with it.
>>16246678>they haven't even managed to kill the astronauts yetfucking amateursAlso, right now everyone knows boing is shit, plus I expect Musk to offer a rescue missions at some point.
>>16246688it'll most likely happen, every day that passes by more hidden problems will emerge I bet. I don't think that piece of junk was designed to be up there for that long by the Boing workers.
lil bro has been quiet as a mouse after starliner problems started popping up
>>16246661it's not that big of a deal and nobody's going to die.
>>16246715Dont lil bro me you subhuman Muskrat
>>16246733>it's not that big of a deal and nobody's going to diesaid the challenger engineers that purchased the cheapest orings they could find with 1 star reviews
>>16246734what are you going to do after ift-5 succeeds, make more baseless N1 comparisons on here like you did hours after ift-4?
>>16246753jokes aside what are these guys going to do when there's video evidence of them shitting on what ultimately became the greatest species-level achievement of our time
>>16246756fall back on muh full self driving
>>16246756they will unironically become Artemis landing deniers to own le musk
>>16246761this and become pro chinese lunar program at the same time
>>16246760I miss FSD, my trial ended last week
>>16246756>>16246760>>16246761Ahab's gotta hunt his whale.
>>16246771PHILIP BLOW UP THE DAMN YOUTUBE CHANNEL
>>16246756>"It only worked because NASA engineers designed it for him and the government actually paid for all of it and Elon isn't a real engineer so he deserves no credit and don't you know that Starlink is a scam? Falcon 9 isn't really impressive because Delta Clipper did it first and SpaceX never made any money off of it."
>>16246774starship isn't impressive because progress refueled the iss first and anyone can land on the moon, plus it was supposed to be done in 2025 and competent aerospace companies always finish everything on time
>>16246774who are we quoting here?
>>16246772
>>16246778"them"
>>16246781The fags? It cant be jews since you didnt echo it.
>>16246777>competent aerospace companies always finish everything on timei dont think even musks detractors could say that with a straight face
>>16246771Heh
>>16246795When other aerospace companies are behind schedule it's fine because space is hard. When SpaceX is behind it's because they're incompetent scam artists who live only to steal money from the government. Please understand
>>16246756the spacex engineers did all the work. elon's companies are set up so he can't get involved in them. if he had his way he would run it into the ground
>>16246803SpaceX works so well because of Elon champ, if it was another company with a left wing culture there would be negative progress because of all the unqualified DEI hires shitting things up.
>>16246795I got into an argument with someone about that today. They told me with a straight face that he always lies and never delivers anything on time. His explanation was that Elon did this to build up hype so that he could get more investors. I then pointed out that everything in space is always late, and that JWST was supposed to launch in the 90's. It actually shut him up because his brain had to reckon with NASA being so hideously late. I've found that whenever someone criticizes SpaceX, all I have to do is start talking about NASA's fuck ups and watch their brain try to square it.
>>16246815You shouldve then gone further and talked about how Elon isnt SpaceX himself and that SpaceX officials usually state reasonable, on time dates whenever they do. And then gone even further and compared their schedule to NASAs or Blorigin to really nail it home how fucking miraculous SpaceX is to the rest of the spaceflight industry.
>>16246815>SpaceX critics know nothing about spaceflight besides whatever Apollo documentary they watched in schoolevery time
>>16246814wrong he just has a cult of personality that draws all the good engineers to his companies and leaves none for the rest of the industry. that's why blue origin and rivian don't succeed and I want them to because despite claiming to hate billionaires I'll simp for one if it opposes husk.
>>16246815I haven’t seen this mentioned explicitly on /sfg/ but it’s my personal opinion that there are a lot of people who simply dislike tesla: electric cars, overvalued stock, annoying fan base, cars with silly problems and time schedule slips that make the news—point is, people just see this annoying reddit billionaire tesla guy. And these same people (the general public) don’t really follow space or spaceflight like at all, so they just do a 1:1 and say SpaceX also suck because of Mr. Musk.Besides the grift I think this could explain thunderfoot. He found the hyperloop idea bogus, then criticizes tesla. Before he knows it he’s way out of his league trying to find evidence that reusing rockets must somehow be a scam of some sort. The numbers are being fudged, it’s just a redstone rocket, Musk is sucking up NASA money and he said he would land Man on Mars in 2021 or whatever aaaahhhhhThey know nothing about how bad spaceflight was during the Shuttle era. They don’t know how fucking dogshit anemic the 90s and 00s were, trying to launch mars missions on tiny ass Delta IIs. They figure Musk is some liar loser guy and SpaceX is accordingly some sort of scam
>>16246827>they don't know
>>16246823hello Jeff
>>16246817I've found that it's all about balance. If you go too hard, you just become off as a simp. Therefore, just pointing out something that even a normie is aware of (Shuttle, JWST, etc) and using that as the basis for the argument without going too deep or aggressive will cause a lock up in their narrative. I'd probably never try this on someone who is a huge SLS shill (for instance) because they are locked in and can just shrug off failures, delays, bloated budgets, etc. with liberal application of hatred for Musk. It's hard to not become autistic on this topic though, I'll agree. Your gut reaction is to shove every single factoid you have in your brain down their throat, but that just causes people to spin away from the conversation. A single, salient point that can't be dismissed works far better, or so I think.
>>16246823There's actually a point here. SpaceX is the first pick for most of the top graduating aerospace talent, and Elon's said a few times that if he could get more good engineers he'd hire them on in a heartbeat. A lot of the rest of the industry doesn't get it's good talent until after they've worked a term or two with SpaceX.
I hate Tesla because I don't want to drive around in a gay looking microwavehowever I like SpaceX because they are our only hope for developing our presence off Earthwithout SpaceX I don't even want to begin to imagine where we would be currently in /sfg/
>>16246839another non-reusable launch to the ISS, WOOOO
>>16246834based interaction off imageboards enjoyer>>16246803I do like the idea that people think you can become a hundred billionaire on accident, or even by scamming. No understanding of the real world at all
>>16246840imagine watching only like 8-12 orange American rockets launches a year, and our astronauts still going up with Russians in 2024it would be grim
>>16246849and by orange I mean ULA slop and not SLS
>>16246827Something all self-made people have in common is that they tried ten other things first. Musk is unique in that a few succeeded at once, but that doesn't mean there weren't failures. I wonder if the reddit skeptic crowd sees the failures and thinks it means something more than it does>>16246839I wonder where the lack of SpaceX brain drain would've put Blue Origin by now in this AU.
>>16246854>I wonder where the lack of SpaceX brain drain would've put Blue Origin by now in this AU.Probably more or less the same, people love to work for SpaceX because of their optimistic company culture. BO is as corporate and sterile as it gets. Sometimes I believe Bezos lies about being a space nerd.
SAVE THEM ELON
>>16246862>Elon saves themoh no what a show off he only did it to boost his own image>Elon ignores them, lets Boing fight their own battles but they dieoh no Elon could have saved them but he didn't!!! what a selfish "billionaire"
>>16246839>without SpaceX I don't even want to begin to imagine where we would be currently in /sfg/It wouldn't even exist. It didn't come about until sometime after falcon heavy from memory.
>>16246839Everyday I am thankful that we have left the dark ages of 2000s era Shuttle simping>OMG the next launch is in three months!!!11
>>16246381are you joking?0g is one of the main appeals of being in space.If giant rotating drums are going to be a thing, it'll only be because they're absolutely medically necessary.>>16246715I honestly think he may have died from his mystery illness. RIP CSS, one of God's accidents.
>>16246893feel bad for people that wasted their entire adult life watching shuttle launchesor the same people that had to watch the "iss" being built for reasons unknownat least they had prime star trek/star wars they could cope with tbf
>>16246839>Blue Origin would stay a Bezos hobby project, so no New Glenn or anything else>NSSL Phase 2 would get split between an AR1 powered Vulcan and fucking OmegA>COTS probably fails; Kistler dies as expected and without Dragon 1 to validate the program there's no push to get Cygnus in as a replacement. >ATV might keep flying though, there was actually a Boeing proposal to launch it on a Delta IV Heavy. Prob. more HTV missions from Japan too. >the lack of Antares/Cygnus won't alter Northrop's desire to eat ATK, but it could stop them pursuing larger launchers, so maybe Vulcan just ends up flying solo as "America's Rocket">if CCDev doesn't get canceled it'd end up divided between Starliner and Dreamchaser. With real funding DC beats Starliner but not as dramatically as Dragon did, and there no big list of Axiom/Inspiration/Polaris missions>NASA has to buy a lot more Soyuz flights before that happens>Rocket Lab, Astra, Relativity, Firefly, et al just don't happen without SpaceX to chase>Virgin Orbit still might. Virgin Galactic is still around and without New Shepard they've got a clear field to claim all the suborbital glory they want. /sfg/ is very impressed by their efforts and Branson is seen as a visionary>without their early pseudopartnership with SpaceX OneWeb dies as WorldVu. the launch market just isn't capable of supporting the needs of a very large satellite constellation>We'd all be impressed by how much shit China is launching, but without the commercial boom in the West they never get their own push to expand into semi-independent spaceflight projects, so it's just long marches from here to the end of time>The Long March 9 sticks with its expendable 2016 jumbo CZ-5 design.
>>16246907>at least they had prime star trek/star wars they could cope with tbfexcept enterprise sucked and got cancelled and the prequels weren't any better all on the heels of columbia. it was a dire time.
>>16246911>except enterprise suckedgb2r
>>16246907>sf slopIt's just fantasy in space.At least star wars cribbed from decent fantasy I guess.
>>162469112003-2016 was truly grim dark age but I never stopped being a space flight enthusiast
Reminder that Elon is literally a redditor
>>16246937That's ok! I forgive him :)
>>16246937He still has his penis and he's not a marxist. I dont believe you.
STUCKLINER
No, Starliner is not stuck in space. No, Butch and Suni are not stranded. We’ve got a good spacecraft and a happy and healthy crew. In fact, Suni gave our team a call this afternoon, showed us all around the space station and gave us a bit of encouragement to lift our spirits.
>>16246962I didn't know Rogozin was a redditor.
>>16246975You've seen it docked to the ISS up in space
>>16246916The temporal cold war shit was dogshit and took up way too much space
>>16245381it's already a meme project, it's delayed too much and costs too much when considering most of it's major components are freaking pre-existing ones already designed and built from previous programs... it's already as expensive as the Saturn V which had everything built from scratch.
>>16246994>it's already as expensive as the Saturn V not even close
>>16246390>get made fun of>samefag “woooow you’re all so mad bro, r-reeeekt hahahaha”Embarrassing, just take the L and fuck off back to nu/pol/ lmao.
>>16246395They didn’t, they’re actually the main voice on /pol/, as well as a variety of shitskins, that board is no longer white or hetero at all.
>>16246513>more zigger PTSD episodes.Man, hohols fucked up your brain, dude.
What do I say to a girl that obviously wants to fuck but has some weird shit holding her back from doing it
>>16247101Ask her if she wants to watch rockets.
>>16246756they are trapped in their grift and will continue telling their audience what it wants to hear
Vulcan has teeth, did you guys know this?
I want to FUCK a lesbian rocket-girl artist
>>16246756Hyperloop.
Are the bots broken?
>>16247221>>16247226>>16247229>>16247230>>16247232>>16247234>>16247235report all these botsare jannies sleeping?
>>16247249It's on multiple boards. Jannies are shit as usual.
>>16247237I'm not a bot but I'm also broken
>>16247249>>16247251And there are still anons who believe they are talking to real people here and the bot problem is made up.
>>16247249/sci/ is quite possibly the least jannied board on this god forsaken website
>>16247266With 3 posts per minute or whatever, it's not exactly prioritized.
>>16247268And yet this general is the only thread worth a damn on the whole site.
A few hours ago France and China got together to do some sciencehttps://twitter.com/SpaceIntel101/status/1804456526095994951>CASC to launch SVOM on its Long March 2C from Xichang SLC. SVOM (Space Variable Objects Monitor) is an LEO observatory by a Chinese-French collaboration to study gamma-ray busts
>>16247345China has launched american payloads before. A long time ago. I think cooperation is cool
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