Starfactory Tour EditionPrevious: >>16244897
Here it ishttps://youtu.be/aFqjoCbZ4ik
>>16247418Did it actually get posted? Hold on I gotta watch this
>>16247424No, it's not real.
>>16247418new 'nautalso fuck, you were just a few minutes faster than me.
>>16247414Why is Musk so fucking bloated? Go to the gym, fatass.
>>16247418Ok so who’s gonna post part 2?
>>16247433
>>16247426Why do you lie to me? Also holy fuck an hour long? >>16247433 And it's not even the full tour??? Thanks Elon.
Holy fuck he is so autistic. Also he still has his barrel chested dad body.
>>16247439Literally meminus the barrel chested body
>IMPORTANT INFOYou can basically just skip the first 10 minutes of the video its like a newfag introduction to Starship then they finally get to actually touring.
Reminder to never give up, because she didnt give up either.
>>16247418>does starbase tour>wastes time about muh stoke aerospikefucking retard, deserves to be called the soistronaut/estronaut
Elon is already too fat to fly Crew Dragon, it's fucking over.
>>16247453he talks about stoke? im not there yet
>>16247447all ships are womenalways have been always will be
SPEHS
>>16247463Ewwwww what the fuck
>one long continuous scene, occasionally swapping between A and B camerawhy did this take a month to edit and upload?
>>16247467FUCK WHAT GOT CLOGGED AHHHHHHH YOURE TOO FAR AHEAD OF ME>>16247468ITAR sucks donkey balls
T: "So you had ice buildup in the booster that caused engines to fail?"E: "Sorry can't hear you." (they are face to face)T: Repeats questionE: "They had low pressure."
How much debris will there be if Starship attempts a Mars landing and explodes? I guess if it manages to try the landing burn, it'll just kinda tip over and crumple, but if it disintegrates in the air, the debris field would be massive
>starfactory is still just working on the shell of the factory>hasnt even started on the interior of starfactoryokay this thing isnt getting done until next year clearly.
>>16247471He zoned out
>>16247463>Rocket deployed quick response aircraftHoly kek, post that on >>>/k/. Too good to be true.
>>16247471>(they are face to face)Spend a long time around industry and you get hearing loss.
the council has decided your fate. death by rocket exhaust
>>16247487this is where they install engines also FUUUUUUUCK this is the stuff i LIVE for
>>16247487I object, i want to ride a starship down to earth in my last moments.
>>16247493rows on rows of engines
Yusaku Maezawa owes me therapy fyi
factory already in use, tile mounting points need iteration though>>16247512nobody cares you dumb bulldyke
Uh oh, Elon got fact-checkes by EDA
>tiny desk in the middle of massive factory>massive texas flag on the wall>random parts for rockets everywheresovl
>>16247463Thunder Force V tier tomfuckery.
Watching Sally Ride's first shuttle misson, kino inside.
>when bae starts to bring up linear adjacent flow at your dinner dateAMBATAKUM
big trailerpark of all your coworkers next to even bigger factory would be the life bro. and thats the end of the tour! can someone do a list of all the important info (other than just seeing how all this stuff works)
What is this body postion called?
>minisplit installed literally inside factory to AC enclosed office spaceYou know it's hot as fuck in that place, Elon is too cheap to AC the entire place
>>16247503I think Musk's Raptor garden might actually be bigger than the Forest of NK-33s.
>>16247532Peak Performance medium ISP.
>>16247477>factory >getting doneA factory is never donet. owns a factory
You worthless dregs, nobody (you)ed me to tell me it's out?
>>16247463If only you knew how erect I could be
>>16247463Macross-tier, very based
>>16247463this but with an aircraft that does more than look good (though she does look very sexo.)
>hauling ass with the drone shipshydroplanes when?
does elon have 3 female attendants in tow to chase after his kids at all times?
>>16247549I did an announcement on the discord...
>>16247463I'd like to see the plan to actually re-enter, jettesion the faring, and actually deploy the plane. I've done shit like this going to Laythe in KSP and there's usually some very high G loading and dynamic pressure duirk g that shit show
>>16247463When you absolutely positively need a fighter jet anywhere in the world in 30 minutes or less.
3 grid fin booster confirmed?
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1804542638034661522Traditional Chinese post-launch celebrations are underway for this morning's LM-2C launch.
>The mass trade that we did, I think it's this point, like it's four years ago or something like that, maybe five. It seemed like at that time it would be at least twice as heavy as a ceramic heat shield. Now since then, the weight of our ceramic heat shield has grown. And then when you factor in the, the secondary shield, that's additional mass. So, I don't know, it may not be that big of a difference between actively cooling a heat shield and, and having ceramic tiles.
>>16247580FAA will need a month to think about that one
>>16247580Is this played in reverse you disinfo spammer.
>>16247580classic china
>>16247585Yes, how dare these perfidious westerners reverse footage. Here's the correct footage.Chinese people run this way.
>>16247594It's also cleaning up pollution on its way up. Glory to China!
>>16247594china is so incredible, their rockets actually clean up pollution
>>16247532The Liefield
>>16247599Russia number 2.
If you strapped a tug to our sun and it was powerful enough to move the sun, would all the planets followAnd how long would it take to reach the center of the galaxy if you could accelerate and decelerate the sun
>>16247594Chinese engineerint is so amazing that rockets suck up pollutants and go up without combustion at the same time! Westerner scum couldnt even think of this.
>>16247598>>16247606China improves the performance of their air-breathing rocket engines by seeding the atmosphere with various nitrogen oxides ahead of the launch
>>16247613https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT6kblEmGGc
>>16247605https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_engine
>>16247580>be poor chinese rural farmer>no wife, all woman left for the cities to join the harems of the super rich>dont even own the land you farm>it's property of the local party official, he takes 2/3 of your crop yield evey year as "payement">one day a giant tube with yelow smoke crashes on your town, killing the next door family>you and the rest of the village breath in the yellow smoke>get sick>complain to party official>he sends in hired tugs to beat the shit out of you and the other who dared to complain>the most healthy of you get arrested and send to jail for organ harvesting. >all is well in china.
> have to go to the fucking catalog to find out which, of the many, /sfg/ thread is active I hate you stupid autist cunts
>>16247618It's summer.
>>16247621As if retards starting another thread when we are not on page 10 or when the next one is already up is exclusivelya summerfag problem.
>>16247626Summerfaggotry extends to crossboarders suddenly popping in to shit it up.
>>16247414the fuck kinda beergut is that
>>16247604this is what would actually happen if you tried to use >>16247463
>>16247445
>>16247616what's up with the green paint? insecticide?
>>16247604top kek, somebody should do the proton that did a flip
>>16247644Since I just found me a beer and I'm in a good mood, here you go.Russian retro propulsion numba wan!
Remember to report the namefag for 'automated spambot'. Because it is one
>>16247650excellent, thank you anon
>>16247650WTFF Why did no one tell me that Russia could do E2E???
>>16247656Not just that, they have in-air assembly. Beat that!
the b*rkun spambot shits up yet another thread
Clean it up, jannies.
>>16247643During the olympics the chinese where painting entire mountains green that where in view of visitors of the olympics.
WHERE IS THE ESTRO PAYPIG?PAGING ESTRO PAYPIGPOST PART 2 OR I'LL DIE
>>16247674Two weeks.
>>16247674Have some patience
>bottleneck in F9 booster reusability is the speed of the drone shipFascinating
>THEY EVACUATE THE VILLAGES>THEY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE!>THEY NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS!!11LMAO, TANKIES ABSOLUTELY SEETHINGSUCK ON THAT PHAZZEE YOU SHAMELESS CCP SHILL
>>16247479>>16247463 See >>>/k/61926036
>>16247539kek
>>16247532- Inside
>>16247718>Not sharing the fruits of CNSA labors with the people
>>16247674He was sent to Guantanamo
>>16247618it's this one
>>16247699You have no idea how little Chinese government cares about their citizens. They're literally seen as expendable. If I recall correctly, Mao once said he wouldn't even care if 200 millions of Chinese died fighting USA.
>>16247733Yeah I know, which is what makes the phenomenon of tankies living in the US but simping and praising the CCP and everything it does absolutely fucking bewildering
>>16247418https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1804530882528661588
>>16247738they wouldn't be tankies if they weren't literally retarded
>>16247671chinks never fail to surprise me, i knew they painted grass before, but man.why are they so fucking stubbornly devoted to pretending anything they think is a problem to not be percieved as one, no wonder the country crashes and burns every few hundred years.
>>16247744lmao true, really just the left wing version of neo-nazis
>>16247753They even glued rocks to rebar and painted that to look like flowers from afar.Potemkin country.
remember KayEsPee? This is her now. Feel horny yet?
>>16247768Why did you turn shuttle into a jet?
>>16247770why haven't you?
>>16247774Because it's ugly.
None of you mentioned what was said in the third minute of the tour. Elon said than Starship 2 is going to deliver 100t to orbit, while V3 is supposed to do just a little bit more.Quite concerning.
So musk is talking about a second shield behind the tiles as a backup. Maybe some kind of coating?
>>16247768Which mod? I added the one that lets you place space centers on other worlds recently and it made KSC prettier with more buildings and extra runways.
>>16247776Better than 40 T
>>16247418>estro suggets a fucking coolant hose inside the ship>Elon takes the longest time trying to figure out how to reply politelkek. Estro trying so hard to replicate that one time he suggested a thing that Elon actually considered in the first tour
>>16247787An ablative, yes
>>16247787yes, an ablative coating in case the tiles are damaged or fall off. Not conducive to rapid reusability but at least the ship survives
>>16247787This is not new. Ablative silicon layer behind as a backup.
let's see>>16247777
>>16247792Lol, just got to that part. estrogen should have know by elon's look right away that he needed to stop talking.
How can SpaceX prevent the ice from forming and blocking valves?
>>16247789Blackcock
>>16247806heaters
>>16247806redundancy
>>16247806Reroute hot Raptor exhaust with a pipe to blow directly onto the valves
>>16247753The same reason poor people buy expensive phones/watches/jewelry, so they appear rich.
>>16247753eastern culture, the chinese most of all, are obsessed with "face"
>>16247827>chinese most of all, are obsessed with "face"And yet they collect gutter oil and use it for frying food.
>>16247806deport the mass for illegally entering
>>16247418tl;dw?
>>16247830They don't feel guilty about using poisonous trash to make their food, but they do feel embarrassed to get caught doing it. That's how face-obsessed shame based cultures work. On the other hand, in western guilt-based cultures, people would feel ashamed to do such a thing even if they were never caught.
>>16247468picard song
>>16247830>>16247837https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt%E2%80%93shame%E2%80%93fear_spectrum_of_cultures
>>16247854US, China, Russiawow
>>16247837>In the opposite of the majority of countries in Europe, countries in the Balkan region, especially Serbia, are characterized as having a strong shame culture. This explains why they are still crying so hard about NATO bombing.
>>16247733>If I recall correctly, Mao once said he wouldn't even care if 200 millions of Chinese died fighting USA.Turns out if you look hard enough, you can find common ground with anyone.
>>16247876I am much like Mao, for I also wouldn't shed a tear for 200 million dead chinese.
>>16247770High IQ Soviet strategy that Americans wouldn't get
>>16247806add a LOX heat exchanger so water ice isn't in the tank to start with
>>16247768they both look like shit
>>16247650>Successful propulsive landingTruly no one can match Russia
>>16247908>high soviet iq>let's copy extremely expensive american rocket and abandon it after a single launch
>We have some challenges>Like with the space shuttle and the hinge flap>Not allowing hot gases to flow where the hinge flap isGuarantee you that there was a likely meeting about that issue following IFT-3 once they looked at the data
>>16247955Russians know when to stop throwing good money after bad.Fuck the Shuttle program.
>>16247793>>16247795Not a coating, but yes some kind of layer under the tiles.>>16247806By not putting pre-burner exhaust into the tanks
>>16247962>russians know when to stop throwing good money after bad.>russians know when to stop throwing good money after bad.
>>16247962>knowBuddy, they literally couldn't afford it, because their country collapsed.
>>16247962They threw away money on a boondoggle to achieve "parity" then their union imploded.They still don't know shit.
>>16247580Why the fuck don't they fucking use their damn coastline?
>>16247989western spies
>>16247989Because most of their launch sites are outgrowths of old cold war ballistic missile test sites and those were located to keep them well away from things like boats full of foreign intelligence analysts. Wenchang is a conventional ocean-facing launch site but only the newer non-hypergolic rockets launch from there and most of China's flights are still old style LM-2s, 3s, and 4s.
>>16247989They do in Hainan, they still use the other sites due to a weird fear that foreign countries will steal their hypergolic rocket tech, as well as the sites probably being convenient due to already being built/established
>>16247997Jiuquan was established in 1970, Xichang in 1984, Taiyuan in 1988. Wenchang opened for business in 2016 when the LM-5 became operational. Launching that fat bastard from inner Mongolia was a bit much even for Beijing.
boo
>>16247989Because the CCP litterally does not gives a flying fuck about the countryside chinese where these boosters come down. You can bet your ass right now that they are already hunting down the dude who filmed that and posted it online beyond the great chinese firewall.
>>16247414elon looks like he overdosed on onions
Based future ruler of Mars eating Funyuns from the floor
>>16247962>Russians know when to stop throwing good money after bad.this is what tankies actually believe
>According to multiple lawsuits his whole M.O (ALLEGEDLY) is asking every single white woman he finds attractive at any company he owns even a partial stake in, if they'll have his babies. If said woman declines, he retaliates and sabotages her career. Very cool dude!https://x.com/MillyTamarez/status/1804237391206793326unconscionable behavior!
>>16248039the chinese have a very bug like mentalityextreme efficiency (comparatively speaking) at the cost of liberty and creativity
so crazy that the main space reddit is extremely hostile to spacex and estrogenaut even though estrogen got his popularity from there
>>16248063uhm, based department?
>>16248072its not that crazy that the libtards hate the walking talking archetype of the capitalist ubermensch out of an ayn rand novel
>>16248072I remember when musk was still a god to them and they where trying to justify musk sperging out and caling that one bong diver a pedo on social media. Dont get me wrong, musk is going to give us the stars and i thank him for it, but the dude has some giant brainfarts every few months.
>>16248080yeah he is quite clearly a high IQ schizo and a raging abusive narcissist but well, nobody is perfect
>>16248063t. fat black woman who is very offended that she would never be asked
>>16248086Based south african musk saving the white race.
So why didn't they start on a smaller scale and with more frequent tests
ok but what new info did we get from the video?
>>16248083>>16248080EDS loser fuck off
>>16248072Did you just wake up from a 6 year coma? Leftists absolutely hate Musk and everything Musk related for the last 6 year or so. I warned you before Biden got elected. I warned you guys about the hostility Biden would stoke and become a threat to Musk/SpaceX
when did they build a big ass parking garage at starbase?
>>16248080yes because expats in thailand totally aren't pedos
>>16248094I think it started going in around the same time the tents were getting pulled down
>>16248093Trump riding on the coatials of spaceX succes really pissed of the lefties. The biden admin would probably have shitcanned spaceX if they could, sucks for them that spaceX has become irreplaceable for US spaceflight.
>>16248095It was a bit more complicated than that. The diver guy, who was in his thirties, was involved in a groomed but non-sexual relationship with an underage girl that went balls deep the second she turned eighteen. This is exactly what Elon's dad did with one of the girls he went to school with after he divorced Elon's mom. Elon has some fairly negative opinions about this sort of thing.
>>16248101How dare a president praise an accomplishment by an American company, I am offended for no real definable reason!
>>16248095Not every bong in thailand is fucking kids anon, most of them are fucking ladyboys. And say what you will, but the dude was one of the best cavedivers in the entire world, and that was one of the big reason why he was in asia too, because it was cheap as fuck to do cavediving in asia compared to living in europe.
>>16248101They did cancel Starlink rural internet subsidies. They've instead elected to spend $40+ billion additional to bolster rural internet, now there's 0 customer for that $40 billion dollar spent. Its absolutely criminal in how much money is being wasted. if Starlink was subsidized for rural, it would be a good use of the money.
>>16248063He had women in his replies begging that he starts impregnating them years ago. He just listened.
>>16248106>Not every bong in thailand is fucking kids anonIts hilarious how people try to rewrite reality and claim people did not have this perception of old white guys in thailand seeking young pussy just because of Musk.
>>16248109Yeah but you forget that musk also hired detectives to look in to his private life and he never released anything on it so he probably was clean.
>>16248109No one is saying that, but that doesn't mean you can call every white guy in Thailand a pedo
>>16248111No he didn't. Some guy approach Musk claiming to be a detective. People have all the wrong reality being propagated to them by media lmao
>>16248109musk never had sex, only artificial insemination, so i doubt that
>>16248112We do and we did do that for the last 30+ years prior to Musk. And all of a sudden its off limits because of Musk? LMAO. The media propaganda distorting reality is really something
>>16248109Thats why you cant trust what people say, claim to be believe, etc. especially anything concerning high emotional event. Everything is wrong. Reality is 100% warped by half truths and emotionally loaded beliefs over riding reality and memory itself.
>>16248112? maybe don't be a single middle age guy in thailand then?
>>16248121The guy had taken a young wife in thailand. haha.
>>16248116widely shared innuendo is not the same as a public figure libeling youhope this helps
>>16248080Granted, even the Thai cave incident wasn't really a breaking point. There wasn't really one, it was a more steady linear decline after constant airing of his political opinions that really drew it down. Especially after cultivating a far left base with electric vehicles. TLDR Tesla was a fucking mistake.
>>16248124i'm going to move to thailand and exclusively fuck 40 year old thai ladyboys just to prove you faggots wrong.
>>16248127>it libel because uhh Musk>it DOESNT MATTER IF COURT DOESNT SAY ITS LIBEL>I HATE MUSK!!!!
>>16248128He's still on top. How can you call it a decline? He is just building political capital from the right. That's literally it.
>>16248132>building political capital with a side that's against his biggest money maker
>>16248132Exactly. The support is still there, its just the extremists on the left find him to be worse than Hitler while the right finds him acceptable/tolerable/right for speaking from the heart and letting them speak their mind.
>>16248134Environmentalists aren't the same as SJW marxists promoting tranny ideology.
>>16248136>the extremists on the left find him to be worse than HitlerThat doesnt really mean anything anymore when the extreme left calls everybody who doesnt agree with them anymore a nazi.
>>16248108These are not real women.
>>16248142I want real low G woman instead.
>>16248140Yeah, thats why the leftist party is losing everyone's support. People dont trust them and dont like their ideology
>>16248146Not that i like to quote joe "stoolfucker" rogan, but they are becoming a cult.
starfactory ceiling looks too low. how are they supposed to stack starships in it?
Still no brave anon to pay the $5 and re-upload the Tim Dodd interview Part 2? Pretty please?
>>16248150thats what the highbays are for.
>>16248152tim puts digital fingerprints on the videos and sues people who leak them
>>16248154>sues peoplePost in on the Russian site then
>>16248161Dear God, they're still hornyposting over Jessie
The Long March 2C Y50 first-stage booster, for the SVOM mission, fell in Guiding County (贵定县) in the province of Guizhou (贵州) within the designated hazard areas. However, the local government failed to evacuate the surrounding areas properly before launch, the booster hit the ground not long after 3pm local time. Evacuation responsibilities fall on the local governments after state-owned and private companies release information regarding hazard areas.In the footage, the booster appears to fall on a hillside, with no explosion audible. Audio of the booster 'crumpling' can be heard as there is little propellant left. The yellow-ish smoke seen is from a propellant vent that is opened as soon as liftoff. Clean-up teams usually arrive not long after the booster is no longer airborne to isolate it from the public and remove debris, these teams also actively track it as it falls. China is currently part-way through a transition away from using hypergolic fuelled rockets, along with working on reusable rockets that can land themselves which will effectively eliminate this prob
>>16248142troons? hmm, possibly.
>>16248163She was never even that hot.Also>Slapping POCKOCMOC logo on Starship booster footage as if their country is capable of anything but firing GRANDFATHERS GLORIOUS SPACE TRACTORFucking cargo cult.
>>16248163LMAOhttps://youtu.be/NLyrHGAXsRo
>>16248175why hasnt elon bred this?
>>16248163kek what is it with them and her. kind of based.
>>16248165>within the designated hazard areas
Icechads forever vindicated btw. fuck you, youa re all retards for mindlessly denying the ice thing like lemmings. KILL yourselves.
>>16248181spacex: we showed the world how to do reusable rocketsthe world: nahhh thats fucking stupid lmfao
>>16248179Maybe she is/was too young
>>16248181once the rockets are up who cares where they come down? that's not my department
>>16248182based
>>16248186he was piping an 18 year old college freshman while married
>>16247532Emperor Penguin
>>16248192>marriedTo the best of my knowledge he's been smart enough never to marry. Dude's still got his money and belongings.
>>16248187based chinaman.
>>16248194
>>16248184To give China the recognition that they deserve, they have been testing grid fins so they can guide the boosters down on houses with low social credit scores
>>16248180They can't resist the latina pussy.
>>16248198jesus fucking christ, my sides.
>>16248197I stand corrected. Dude must have had some bulletproof prenuptials though.
>>16248198lol
>>16248063Someone's jealous :)
>>16248194Didn't Grimes get something when they split?
Thought on going on multiple job interviews and then taking the best job after I go through all the interviews? Basically I would tell them at each interview that I'm planning on going to other interviews and if they offer me a job they would have to wait a few days for me to maybe accept. Would this work?
>>16248163that's out sister general bros
>>16248219Don't tell them. It's inferred throughout the hiring process that they are not the only ones bidding for your time. If they're too slow on the offer, fuck 'em, they had their chance.
>>16248192>he was piping an 18 year old college freshman while marriedsource needed
>>16248163WBS
>>16248216Yeah, the kid.
>>16248220Don't compare the cargo cult to us.
>>16248224it was in the article the other day that detailed his sexual pursuits at spacex
>>16248219Tell first what kind of job you want and also, off topic.
>>16248221okay but suppose I don't tell them and after the interview they tell me I'm hired and ask me when can I start working? What do I do then if I still want to go to other interviews?
>>16248063unironically based. he is saving the species with his autistic genes.
>>16248232You tell them you are doing freelance work and have no time to come in to sign today or the rest of the week, but that depends on what kind of trade your in.
>>16248063If some dude started asking random women if they would fuck he would wind up in jail
>>16248080>the pedo guy thing was already 6 years ago time flies bros
>>16248236Been NEETing for a few months. >>16248231designing rudimentary parts in CAD
>>16248244lol, your fucked. What country do you live in?
>>16248245country where it's easy to get jobs currently.
>>16248248Ukraine?
>>16248248Dont be like that, i live in belgium, and there are more then enough anons here who can draw in autocad. Aim lower, more then enough companies looking for people who can read and understand plans and can translate it to blue collar workers. I hope you are good with your hands.
>>16248251Lotta new openings there recently, I hear
>>16248252What do you mean aim lower exactly? Part of one of the job ads is drawing stuff for the technicians to assemble and weld together and perhaps explain to them how to assemble it. Do you think that's better than pure CAD? I have some experience welding too
can I get just a crumb of part 2?
>>16248261No. >>16248258CNC workers&welders put stuff togethe0 based on CAD plans, technicians are a completly different thing, if you dont even know that you are not prepared.
>>16248261No. And you wont be getting any crumbs of bread either, CIA spy.
pretty weird that nobody is analyzing the elon interview. its as if people have given up on following too deeply and have instead become casual space fans.
>>16248277I'm retarded
>>16248261Alright, but just a smidge.Elon whistles another classical music piece. (He is bored of Tim)
>>16248277You can do the analysis too.
>>16248277Starbase capable of 100 Starships production per year. Elon wants 1000 per year for mars colonization. Its not gonna be only at Starbase, so Florida will likely do a huge chunk of Starship building, maybe 10-20X that of Starbase.
>>16248261part 2 takes place hours after ift4. elon says some interesting shit.
its funny how nobody is willing to spend five bucks on an hour long elon video
>>16248293We're all poor
>>16247418>>16247467>>16248182>ice doubters btfo>word that part two may btfo steel plate fags by confirming new tower getting proper flame trenchlmao if that's true it's gonna be hilarious
>>16248265> people who can read and understand plans and can translate it to blue collar workers.I hope you are good with your hands.Explain this type of job
>>16248293It's not the 5 bucks it's the laziness. Also sue me estrogenaut
>>16248305You would be amazed at how many people look at 2d plans of a 3d object and cant put 1 and 1 together.
>>16248298Watercooledsteelplatethads will never get BTFO with how the tower 1 plate has been holding up you are making up bullshit with no sources and corroborating unrelated topics as if ice proves trenchcels won. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARDED NIGGER
>it's realE L E V E N C H I L D R EN
>>16248325Nobody cares shut up
> WHO WILL WIN? RADIATION OR THE SHIT-DEMON?
i thought that was her
Do you think the starliner crew got a chance to wash their poopy underwear
>>16248319give me more advice
>>16248338dont be a loser that asks questions on a anime forum.
>>16247418everyday astro-soi takes about 25 mins to stop acting like an autist but other than that it was a good little video and tour of starbase.also Elon looks like a really good father, seems to hang out with his kids almost 24/7.all in all good to see.
Arianebros, what's the SITREP?
>>16248181Imagine defending this, you'd have to be some kind of brainwashed communist apologist or something
>>16248346>your dad will never take you on a tour to his starbase
>>16248351About that...
>>16248348Everything (so far) looks set for a launch on July 9th
>>16248358lmao
>>16248358Diaspora of any country always fucking sucks.
>>16248348"The launcher" is working in the meantime.
>>16248358hahahahh https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/sino
>>16248370>fragilewhiteredditorthis coming from the BBC spammers is funny as fuck.
>>16248358>Tiananmen square is vindicateHoly shit is that a bizzaro version of the CCP copypasta?
>>16248358>actually, china has problems with homelessness just like the rest of the world>instant copy pasta about how chinese human rights violations are good and justified and non-sequiturs about americathey're like a parody of themselves
>>16248389It's not a parody, those people are a serious threat. Have you never heard of Rosenbergs? A communist is never loyal to his motherland, his heart lies first in Russia, or China these days They're like a virus that must be cleansed before it spreads.
>>16248381Tiananmen square was unironically based. Western jewish glownigger colour revolution crushed beneath steel behemoths put the fear of God into glowniggers from trying that shit again.
>>16248398we also have a virus in the west which I'm not going to say here
>>16248381>>16248389>>16248398>>16248401>>16248403wumao's and the CCP are a real problem, but lets not derail the thread with politics. Lets instead post /sfg/ related anime and watch the tread derail even harder when that one anon loses his shit.
>>16248408Why were we denied photos of Starship floating calmly in the ocean?
>>16248320Anon I properly qualified my post and did not imply that the two are somehow related, just that it'd be funny for both to be true.
>>16248408
>>16248411
>>16247792>>16247802Sounds like a pretty good idea to me
>>16247802What time?
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/18045426380346615221 Million views lmao
>>16248460Rapid Return to Village-capable rocketry
>>16248460hopefully the shame and embarrassment will be the kick in the ass that china needs to finally start using reusable rockets
>>16248422So you are trying to get out of the deal again
>>1624846312-18 months
>>16247539Now we just need a photo of EDA doing the soiface
>>16248462jesus fucking christ I hate/love AI
>>16248463wow yeah they never thought of it before this video
>>16247430>Why is Musk so fucking bloated? Go to the gym, fatass.boomer + shit diet + alcohol/drugs + zero exercise = skinny arms and legs with a fat gut.
>>16248463china has a face culture and generally will use the shame and embarrassment to justify hiding whatever is causing the shame and embarrassment and shoving it into a little corner instead of dealing with it.
>>16248298Gonna laugh when there isn't going to be a trench and spaceguy5 gets outed as the bullshitter he is.
>>16248128It started when he posted that covid tests seemed unreliable, and also that chloroquine was worth a look
>>16248497because elon doesn't understand type 1 vs type 2 error
>>16248473how does the one with 2 strap on boosters take the 2nd to least amount to LEO?
>>16248492
>>16248489>alcohol/drugsbaseless accusations
>>16248502>literally just using the explanation a chink friend gave me>thirdie defence force kicks into action instantlyyou've clearly been traumatized by the lackluster performance of your favourite shitholes as of recent, i won't press the issue further, it's clearly very distressing for you.
SAVE US ELON
>>16248501None of these are to scale with each other. I'm guessing they started planning this with a small four engine design like the Zhuque-2 and then decided to go through common core hell rather than ditch the work they'd done and scale up to a seven or nine engine booster. https://twitter.com/cas_space/status/1745625964107710862>Kinetica-2 will see its inauguration launch in Aug 2025. Milestones are planned for 1st stage reusability before 2028. This makes me doubt that the 12t figure is what it's going to be capable of when reused. If it's struggling to beat Pallas-1's payload while still juggling three cores it's going to get eaten alive in a market where TL-3 and ZQ-3 are rushing to demonstrate reusability before Q4 2025.
>>16248508Your tears are so delicious piggoid
are there any spacex starship development youtubers worth watching??
>>16248526NSF. Thats it. Dont watch any livestream except the 24/7 though.
i love the smell of hypergolic propellant in the morning
>>16248530Stop playing the wrong version you westoid scum
>>16248530these people eat wild bats and gutter rats lil bit toxic air pollution won't hurt them
>>16248530Stop playing the reversed version you westoid scum
>>16247418is there anything new in this? seems like Todd just fangirling the whole time. Really expected more from him, or at least on par with the previous tours
>>16248530Why are they running? they're over a mile away. chinese peasants really are stupid retards. If it was me, I'd be running towards it to inspect the loot!
>>16248330It is. It's becoming more and more obvious that she's the third wife and is completing the void that his relationship with Grimes ended on. He was very optimistic and happy throughout the entire interview.
>>16248535>>16248540Ching chong ping pongFree Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution
>>16248530>>16248545let them cook as the zoomers say
>>16248298>>16248320Unironically going to happen. Spaceguy5 hits themark every time and he promised there iwll be a flame trench. Retards on here will seethe and deny until the day it actually happens, then they will forget
>>16248325Lucky Elon got to fuck Gwynne too. She is ride or die for him
>>16248547Space chad 5 is so based he could finally take down the muskrats for good lol
>>16248548gwynne aint seggzy
>>16248516rent free.
>>16248550I've fuck her
>>16248530Kino
>>16248507Even if you don't believe the various rumours that've been around for years, he's said himself that he does the ambien + wine thing and takes ket (for medical reasons)
>>16248541Not really, no. If you're up to speed here then you know pretty much everything. Walking around the giant factory building and inside the megabay with 3 boosters is really kino though.
>>16248556Oh no he does "wine"I don't think Heavenly Father would approve
>>16248549I have info that could get SpaceGuy hit by the full force of ITAR. Through what channels could this be reported to NASA ITAR compliance and SpaceX? I also feel morally conflicted about exposing a person to a potential 10 years in prison and a million dollar fine for no real major offence that poses a threat to weapons exports. Yes he is a dick. I doubt it warrants this.
>>16248563Just threaten him directly on Discord
>>16248563Jackasses thrive because decent people won't stoop to do what it takes to destroy them. Doo Eeit.
>>16248552They all look like people's moms or dads.
/pol/ and /k/ tourists are such tards that they somehow managed to make racism unfunny
>>16248547To be fair as funny as a flame trench would be I don't think there's been any earth work that'd indicate something like that for tower 2 (which'd likely be substantial so I'd expect it to start early) and I've now also seen others say that in the video it's less a confirmation and more a lack of denial.>>16248563Contact these guys?https://www.nasa.gov/oiir/export-control/Is some of his bragging about being a NASA engineer divulging too much info? I guess the high road would be to point it out to him privately first and if he doesn't take it down/stop doing it or whatever the issue is then you report it.
>>16248581they will have a stainless steel flame diverter, no earth work required
>>16248502lol this isn't even the first time today we've discussed china having face/shame culture but you're so mind broke by russia you think this has something to do with a european conflict.
>>16248563They are bottom feeder fags, don't feel obliged to apply any kind of morality. Just fuck him up.
>>16248530Nice try, retard. Here's the real version
>>16248597How does China do it? This is a quantum leap in the field of rocketry. They will undoubtedly grow larger.
>>16248530Why cant USA do this,?
>>16247418"There are many ways to solve the problem. What matters is that it is solved"gigabased
>>16247414Why is the 1812 Overture stuck in Elon's head
>>16248624He heard classical music makes babies smarter so he keeps a speaker on his testicles every night
>>16248563He's an oldspace simp and deserves to be incinerated by Superheavy's takeoff exhaust for that sin alone. I say this earnestly. I would watch that man flayed alive and feel equal parts satisfaction and contempt.I recognize that my views are extreme, and a risk to morality and social cohesion. It is a good—albeit frustrating—thing that social structures mostly prevent people like me from holding enough power to leverage our opinion into policy. If I ran the show we'd have self-sustaining colonies very quickly, but a lot of summary executions along the way.
/sfg/ is dead.... nobody else fucking talk after this
New SLS just dropped!
>>16248676Kill yourself
>>16248677what an awful thing to say
>>16248671There's things coming up. Falcon Heavy is launching on Tuesday, Alpha on Thursday, H3 in a week. There's no big news breaks right now but that'll pick up. >>16248676>please be patient, I am a cost-plus jobs program
>>16247770it's both the Shuttle and the jumbo jet cockpit, it fulfills both roles
>>16248473I'm sick of China pretending it has private companies.
military starship variant leaked
>>16248699/sfg/'s dedicated party representative will be along shortly to explain to you that just because all the chinese venture capital firms are state-funded and controlled, this does NOT mean that the Chinese newspace scene is CCP astroturfing. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
>>16247533>>16247519Damn wtf it already looks like Hawthorne
>>16247776He said 200t you worthless retard gorilla nigger
Watching him talk about raptor 3 while pointing at the existing raptors and mentioning specific changes being made as well as ongoing prototyping and testing makes me a lot more optimistic about raptor 3 than vague twitter posts
There's a guy sailing across the Pacific alone who posts videos on TikTok using Starlink. He gets 10M+ views and half the comments are asking how he has signal.Insane free PRhttps://www.tiktok.com/@sailing_songbird/video/7383068613181328683
>>16248676Literally disgusting
>>16248676that fat distribution
>>16248759Getting a little chub?
https://twitter.com/isro/status/1804695916617863425>ISRO achieved its third and final consecutive success in the Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV) Landing EXperiment (LEX) on June 23, 2024. "Pushpak" executed a precise horizontal landing, showcasing advanced autonomous capabilities under challenging conditions. With the objectives of RLV LEX accomplished, ISRO embarks into RLV-ORV, the orbital reusable vehicle.Indian X-37 advances to orbital testing
>>16248774in the streets
>>16247418I'm super not ok with this "ablative backup" thing. Seems like a deadend.
>>16248784it writes itself
"“Right now our logs are showing that we’re able to pass between 3 and 5 terabytes of data per day, which is absolutely massive."https://federalnewsnetwork.com/navy/2024/06/navy-project-brings-promise-of-cloud-to-the-middle-of-the-ocean/?readmore=1Starlink working great on USS Abraham Lincoln
SpaceX satellites keep blowing up
>>16248578that's because the racism is not a joke>>16248628based moderate
>>16248784I'm assuming that's just smoke for studying the vortices or something?
>>16248358I thought ABSOLUTE NOTHING happened in Tiananmen Square the 3rd of June, 1989.
Will I be allowed to take drugs on Mars? DMT and shrooms
>>16248876comfy
>>16248873Only native Mars mushrooms.
>>16248876The chinese government doesn't want you to know this, but the used boosters that fall on your neighborhood are free. I have four hundred used boosters.
>>16248876Imagine the smell.
>>16248876someone in the comments is saying this is from an earlier launch last year and not yesterday's failed launch
>>16248896Reverse image search appears to confirm that. To be fair though these things rain down over there like hail so it's easy to get confused.
>>16248891Smells like blood
>>16248896>failed launch???
>>16248906very successful launch that put its payload into its target orbit and everything else is just minor details comrade :)
>>16248896no, anon, yesterday's launch was successfuldropping a spent stage on a chinese village is working as intended
>>16247418>Did you hear about Stoke Space?>*5 mins of incoherent autism*Elon did well to keep his patience with this
So are the two astronauts just fucking around now? No way they planned an extra what 2 weeks of work for them to do just in case. Not even sure they can do "more" science since everything is already scheduled tightly for the existing crewFuck there were 2 threads
>>16248925astronauts aren't there to do science anyways, they're just space jannies
>>16248925crew demo 2 was planned for 14 days and got extended to 63 because there's always plenty of extra work to be done. i swear /sfg/ has goldfish memory on this stuff.
>>16248908once wocket go up, who care where come down?
>>16248925they're up their pigging out on all the dehydrated ice cream, eating all the nice snacks that were sent up for the other astronauts to enjoy after their hard days of space toil.
>>16248929That was when the ISS was at a very low crew amount iirc. Nigger
>>16248887Since mars colonists will live in caves, pretty much their entire diet will consist of various mushropm
fully and rapidly reusable Chinese peasants
>>16248936You can't actually pressurize caves, they're full of holes. So you might as well live in the open>but muh radiationStop caring
>>16248943Foam. Next question.
>>16248945But what about the cave spiders?
>>16248947THIS INTERVIEW IS OVER
>>16247418>look at this flange>this pump is just made off flanges>flanges everywhere>we're gonna get rid of all these flangesWhat is Elon's issue with flanges?
>>16248976the only joint elon likes is one he can smoke
>>16247418He asks the most puerile questions. Still it was nice to see the interior of the factory.
>>16247414what kind of android is this?
>>16247414>Spaceflight>>>/n/
>>16248990
>>16248990Propellant is stored in the belly
>>16248992improvement
>>16248990getting closer to his final form
>>16248976Look at Merlin's history. Flanges are dead weight and only exist to connect test hardware together. They get replaced by integrated parts.
>>16247792To be fair to him, he suggested >why not have the arms close like they were catching the booster, for practiceand Elon was like "uh hmm that's certainly something to think about"then in the end they actually did do it
>>16248283That ass and the dark side girl that looked like a dirty whore were the only good parts about that show.
>>16248462Wait, did the ai change his microphone into a flower too?
>>16248999lol, nicethere's always room for improvement
>>16248976Have you ever worked with flanges? They suck.
>>16247792>>16247802How long have they had this dynamic?
>>16248277There's nothing to analyze. It's just Tim Dodd going>wow>that is insane!>just unbelievable>remember when it was just a tent
>>16248530Wtf is that yellow shit coming out of the rocket?
>>16249016spicy oxygen fumes>>16249014the worst one to me was when he started explaining to elon how gridfins worked and elon got so bored that he just pulled out his phone and stared at it for a few minutes
>>16249016N2O4.
>>16249015How about the footage?
>>16248542I'm pretty sure they've learned that orange gas=cancer.Don't inspect that loot, it comes with poison level 7.
>>16248737Jesus fucking Christ the Merlins look advanced compared to the current gen Raptors.
>>16248737Do you think being able to say "I'm a rocket engineer" helps with getting girls?
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1804835451662176445what's the point of doing a 10km VTVL test if the engine remains on for the whole flight? is this a marketing flight?
>>16249018>explaining to elon how gridfins workedthis can't be real
>>16249075They saw Spacex did a hop so they're repeating it without understanding why.
>>16249077I skimmed through the video and didn't see it.https://youtu.be/p4ZLysa9Qqg
>>16249082skim through whatever starbase tour he did in 2021, it's in there somewhere
>>16249075because that's what grasshopper and starhopper did. it's the first step before you work on mid-air relights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkItO-0a4
>>16249093yes but not at 10km altitude and descending from 10km with the engine still burning, that's my question
>>1624909710km is better than 1km, ergo the Chinese effort is advancing faster
>berger thinks that the astronauts are returning on starliner no matter the costhow likely are they to make it home safely?
>>16249075They want to do a 70 km altitude flight which will simulate a launch profile, this will most certainly require engine restart. They're not there yet but that's their aim for this year afaik.
So starship is using glue for the tiles in certain parts...And now these tiles will be ablative, so, they will need to be serviced (replaced) periodically...Sound like shuttle 2.0.This ship will 100% end up being expendable.
>>16249118solvents
>>16249118Shuttle experts told me that Shuttle TPS maintenance wasn't actually that long, they spent more time on payload processing.
>SLS contract / Artemis III uncertainty continues as annual GAO check releasedWe are not going in 2026.https://youtu.be/5waO4WUg76Q
No one on /sfg/ even knows what's in Part 2 since not a single person seems to have paid Tim Dodd the $5 to watch it.Not a crumb to be had.
>>16248774That looks very twitchy and delicate...
>>16249118>And now these tiles will be ablativeBackup ablative layer underneath reusable layer
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1804871620114214978Raptor V3 testing begins next week.
>>16249147That's bullshit and you know it
>>16249155What exactly is going on in those videos of them pulling up tiles on the starship, putting down a black mat thing, and then putting new tiles on top
>>16248348Rope bought and chair tilting
>>16249131If Tim Dodd needs money, he can just ask Elon.
>>1624911290%. The leaky thrusters we know of are on a part which'll be jettisoned and you can only prove that Boeing screwed up the Orion heatshield.
>>16249131I don't keep money in the computers.
>>1624915495 T to orbit, things are looking DIRE
>tfw I will never know what it feels like to be a refrigerant
>>16249188Just get in the refrigerator. It's not that hard.
>>16249193I'm talking about the fluid rushing through the refrigerator's pipes and heat exchangers though .
>>16249027>This image contains 99 raptors
>>16249015Did Tim Dodd at least confront Elon Musk on his canceled spaceflight? >>16249027They both have unorthodox butts and postures
daming thread about the ussf>80% of ussf does no meaningful work>most officers are on vacation instead of at work>no one is held accountablehttps://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceForce/comments/1dk55c3/laafb_ussf_complaints/
quick anons, tell me how to get a job in the space force.
>>16249154Nice finally, so should be ready for v2 ships?4 v1s left which are going to take a while to launch
>>16249201Why would he confront him? It was up to MZ, not Musk assuming Musk doesnt want to do the same thing with the same crewHe doesnt tend to do big charity things like this (in the open at least) so I doubt he will
>>16249154Seems like they are going to save 20t of mass with these, so should negate the secondary heatshield mass
>>16249204tell them you know all about BRILLIANT PEBBLES and will go public with it unless they give you a job
>>16249202We are witnessing in real time the decline and fall of the American Empire.
>>16249220Oh, I'm afraid those warheads will be quite operational when your friends arrive
>>16249201>canceled spaceflightImao when did this happen and why? Elon should give the estronaut at least a LEO dragon ride in compensation for the free and positive coverage.
>>16249240I don't think you comprehend how many interceptors Starship will be able to put into orbit for a trivial amount of money.
>>16249249Nipponese fella decided he was unhappy with the delays.Musk did say that there might be a significant delay early on though.
>>16249249Elon has given Tim incredible access, he doesn't owe Tim anything.
BUSTED!
>>16249255>Nah bro it's impossible to test the new combustion chamber before the new powerhead is ready
>>16249255>Pressure testing components of a prototype is the same as a static-fire of the final design engine
>>16249255I expect an explanation /sfg/.
>>16249255He said Raptor 3, not Raptor V3. These are two different things.
>>16249240Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational orbital swarm
>>16249255I can't get tired of the amount of lobotomites ready to attack every single statement of his without having even a cursory understanding of how hardware testing works, nor really anything that's happening behind the doors since they don't work at it.
>>16249272Im tired of it really. Low hanging fruits doesnt just show the lack of depth of understanding but also
>>16249255Simple answer, SpaceX naming scheme is consistently and incredibly retarded
>>16249255Version numbers are completely arbitrary
>>16249255testing for production manufacturing vs early dev testing with the v3 still in very much flux
>>16249293Its blocks like Falcon now you dumb negroid
Should i get StarLink Mini and dump my cell phone carrier?An additional 30$ a month.
>>16249316Block numbers are completely arbitrary
OFT oldtroons have been completely eradicated now
>be ultra successful Japanese billionaire>have access to the world's best lawyers>somehow still get scammed into signing contract with American billionaire. >lose millions and millions
>>16249333Musk is African Canadian
>>16249334African - Canadian - American soon to also become the first Martian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_WDWzNfYsThird times the charm? Starlink 10-2 launches in an hour
did they do that tower catch test yet?
>>16249347not yet. next flight if Elon is to be believed.
>>16249347>>16249349He means the B14.1 test, not yet, they've just put it onto the OLM
did we discuss this yet?>chinese company did a 12km hop using 3 methalox engines yesterdayhttps://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1804771470201241781
>>16249154Damn I thought they would've been testing it for a while already, that chamber pressure record firing was ages ago at this point.>this will be the one to really scale up productionkek, every time. It sounds so familiar he might've said it about Raptor 2 as well
>>16249357>yesterdaymeant today
>>16249357We discussed it tomorrow.
>>16249346Man, remember when individual non-crewed Falcon 9 launches had launch threads? Simpler times.
>>16249357>70km test is next>orbit is after thatsoon
>>16249357nearly same thing BO did 20 years ago.
>>16249035Bet you're scared of radiation too
>>16249360they did scale but stopped production of V2, there are almost 400 of raptors produced in total so you had to have some kind of mass production line for them in any casethe production numbers and scale for V3 will just be much more
>>16249357They stole the technology from McDonnell Douglas 1993
>>16249370I don't even watch the 3rd party streams anymore. I post the SFN link because they're not as obnoxious an operation as NSF and they come up an hour ahead of time which would give a fair warning to the single digit number of interested people
>>16249316Which is retarded because clearly there are already multiple blocks within the "V1" line (e.g. when they skipped over a bunch of ships). I've only seen block used by tankwatchers so far though so not all hope is lost that it's only them being braindead and not SpaceX
Elon enters the space industry.
>>16249357>no videodropped
>>16249346https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1804915890917695587>All systems are looking good, weather is currently 70% favorable, and propellant load is about to begin for today’s launch of 22 Starlink satellites from Florida
>>16249392china would be dominating without elon and congress? they'd just throw their hands up in the air while saying "nothing can be done" then go home and count their millions of chinese yuan (((donations))).
>>16249397Maybe, but China imo is reacting to Elon. Same with electric vehicle industry. Its a reaction to Elon/Tesla.
>>16249394https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqmGv-RlRQ
>>16249401In large part yes, reaction to SpaceX have definitely enabled the current chinese launch and satellite startup, thanks to the opening of the space industry in the early-mid 2010s and more funding.But there's still some stuff that wouldn't have changed>Development of the CZ-5 and following predates SpaceX and gave them the technology and infrastructure base for modern launchers.>Their lunar program also dates from the 2000s, with the stated goal to launch crew to the moon in the 2020s as soon as like 2009, and would have required super heavy launchers anyway.>Most current chinese launches are still Long March launching satellites whose development started before Starlink, so they'd still launch dozens of these every year
thank god it wont be just an all orange tuuube, too similar to Starship
Why is my OFT-1 patch bigger than all the others?
>>16249318It takes ~25-35w to power the mini. 24/7. Thats a lot of power. If you however are next to you car for your almost all the time, then attach it on top of the car and you will be able to pass it off easily with a small solar panel and small batterypack
>>16249318it's $600
>>16249426Replacement for a smartphone.
NEW SLOSSKINO!https://youtu.be/5waO4WUg76Q>NASA radio silent on contract negotiations for production of new SLS core stages & new Exploration Upper Stage liquid propellant tanks. The contract (pre-EPOC) should have been awarded by now according to NASA's schedule. According to NASA they are currently investigating cost reduction measures, and they have identified Deep Space Transport LLC (joint venture between Boeing and NG) as the sole source.>It's notable that Boeing has adopted a policy of avoiding fixed-price contracts, which pre-EPOC and EPOC are.>Some production of Artemis V has been authorized, but unclear how to complete it without EPOC/pre-EPOC.>Boeing did not bid on NSSL phase 3 procurement with SLS. Boeing continues to publish study concept papers and alternative mars sample return using SLS as part of trying to find customers for SLS outside of NASA, so unclear why they did not bid.>NASA still trying to answer the question of what Artemis III missions feasible in two years, last video discussed why Orion is unsuitable for LEO. In summary: as part of the negotiations between the Obama admin and congress after constellation was shuttered, Orion was reduced in capability to a beyond-LEO version as part of cost saving measures.>As part of considerations for a possible modifications to enable Orion to stay in LEO for a long period, Boeing has proposed a sun-shield attached to the capsule for thermal management. Another option is modifications to the ESM.>Axiom spacesuit design review date is under review (no, that wasn't a mistake). The design review is supposed to be completed this year, it involves a vacuum chamber test.
>>16249445>HALO module for gateway needed to undergo repairs, which delayed it. GAO notes that HALO is over its mass allocation by ~500kg, and could also be facing an additional mass increase of ~600kg due to a miscalculation of the mass of all the wiring needed. Next up, HALO needs to be tested to show that the aforementioned repairs won't compromise its structural integrity when it's launched.>PPE module for gateway has been delayed due to additional design requirements. PPE is also 170kg over its mass allocation. This mass overrun can be overcome by decreasing propellant storage space. There is currently an investigation into whether the PPE can control the station when starship HLS is docked, and if so whether the HLS can take over maneouvering of the station when docked.>Gateway must be launched by september 2027 at the latest in order to be ready for Artemis IV. Currently not on track to meet this date.>solar electric propulsion units for the PPE module are struggling with schedule delays from multiple problems caused by the AR wiring harness, which needed a redesign.>EUS prop storage will be white rather than orange.
>>16249445>Boeing has adopted a policy of avoiding fixed-price contractsits over for boing
>>16249452This is old news.Comcrew buck broke them so hard.
>>16249447>HALO module for gateway needed to undergo repairsit sounds bad but then you realize shit happens in manufacturing all the time, so its not so bad in reality>HALO is overweightprobably not going to be an issue for spacex since they're the ones launching it>PPE module for gateway has been delayed due to additional design requirementsok now this is actual maliciousness>Gateway must be launched by september 2027 at the latest in order to be ready for Artemis IV. Currently not on track to meet this date.its over
>>16249445>unclear why they did not bidThe Space Force/DoD/etc made a clear public statement saying that they were not interested in buying SLS launches and never would be. It costs too much even for the government and all military space launches can be more gracefully handled by much smaller rockets.
do we know yet if the astronauts will be returning on the Boin capsule?
Here is the link to the full GAO report btw.It's 130 pages long.https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-24-106767.pdf
>>16248144how loose is giantess pussy, though?at least she can't complain that her jaw hurts because your cock is too big
>>16249461NET July 4 because they dont want to risk the bad publicity of astronauts dying around a major holiday
>>16249465Can someone please fire these busybodies?
>>16249468>t. ballast
>>16249465Damn I feel old how because of how many GAO reports I've seen posted here.
>>16249357>engines stay on during the whole descent>that slow ass descentRUMAO china is hard stuck doing hop tests, no improvements made over 3 years
>>16248348still french and no signs of improvement
>>16249470they publish slop multiple times a year.>>16249469What makes you think GAO has some magic power to calculate real costs better than the rest of the federal government?
>>16249465Thanks, another pdf to my collection that I will read someday.
>>16248358That is definitely China, but I don't remember seeing any homeless (i.e. people sleeping on the streets at night) in Shanghai and I spent a fair amount of time walking (or jogging) around at night. There were some beggars, though, and they had to be sleeping somewhere.
>>16247418going to put some points here as nobody else didn't seem to (apparently no new info though, haven't watched it yet)>this [factory] will enable us to have serialized production of the rocket, especially the ship, which will ultimately be made, long term 1000 a year of the ship>we might not build a thousand a year here, but this should be capable of 100 a year>thats only a ship every year, thats nothing (laughs)>this year we will make almost 200 upper stages of Falcon, next year probably over 200>Starship is going to be able to do 100t to orbit, with Starship 2 a little more than that, Starship 3 at the 9m diameter when the 9m is fully stretched out, from a 120m to 140m>this is like a lot of optimizations in, engine improvements, heat shield mass improvements, reducing the amount of propellant needed for landing>basically you do all the things we have done with Falcon 9 and you get to a pretty efficient vehicle and you will be able to get to 200t to a useful orbit with Starship, and that is with full reusabilitythis is just 3min 20s in, I think mentioning the 9m in this way implies he is thinking about a fatter rocket? and he is still saying that Starship V1 should be able to do 100t to orbit which seems weird, wasn't that only 40t?
>>16249477Without GAO we wouldn't have access to half as much information about how artemis is going. That picture of Orion's heat shield would probably have never come out.
>>16248462[X] This post is harming me[X] This post is harming someone else[X] This post is harming everyone[X] This post constitutes a serious threat to human life[X] This post violates US law
>>16249483*ship every 3 days, not a year lol
Can I get a QRD on the latest GAO? Is SLS still $4B per launch?
>>16248774designated shitting atmosphere
>>16249487seems like it might have decreased?SLS and the ground systems together are now $3.6 billion, but I don't think that's launch cost, rather the cost of the program this year?
>>16249490kek, Best Korea won.
>>16249465
>>16249498How did you do this?
>>16249483>I think mentioning the 9m in this way implies he is thinking about a fatter rocket?He's always wanted a larger diameter rocket, but all of the support hardware is currently based on 9m, so it would be rather time consuming to change everything. I think the goal is to get current Starship running, figure out a lot of issues, then start work on a much larger ship once this one is going strong.>he is still saying that Starship V1 should be able to do 100t to orbit which seems weird, wasn't that only 40t?On paper that is the goal. Current Starship isn't 'optimized' as Elon put it, so a lot of work is being done to get Starship flying so they can figure out what to cut back on. Like the hot-stage ring. They toss it right now for reentry of the booster, but later designs will be integrated and less mass.
fuck NASA for firing DRagonfly chief flight engineer and fuck them for delaying the launch
>>16249505ballast will be getting coal for sciencemas.
>>16249505We are NOT going(to the lakes)
>>16249483>we are at starship version 1.6 or 1.7 at this point, i dont know, we are many iterations through version 1>[with respect to iteration in technology in general], one way to look at technology is to look it as rendering an image in successive levels of detail, the first level of the image is very blurry and things are out of place, the next pass it gets gets more defined and things shift into place and then eventually in the end you have a very refined picture that actually works>I think the math shows there is no reason to make another expendable rocket>[for the falcon 9] we are trying to squeeze every quarter of a knot out of the droneships as possible, we are jacking up the power of the ships, streamlining them, increasing the power of the tugging vessels so we can just haul ass as quickly as possible>Tim: you had a [droneship] go from a F9 catch to launch and catch again within 2 days recently (i.e. 2 catches with the same droneship within 2 days I think)>F9 is doing an incredible job within the architecture, but that is still a couple of days to get the booster and then a few days to refurbish it for flight is not rapid by aircraft or vehicle (cars, boats, planes)>doing a trip every 4 days with a car or airplane would not cut it>[Super Heavy Booster] is going to land in about 5-6min on the launch site, if you really push it you might be able to get the booster back on the launch site in 10 minutes or even 5 minutes and you can fill it up in half an hour, you could be ready to go an hour later from a booster standpoint>if you have ships lined up you can drop another ship on, fill it with propellant, in theory you could be launching every couple of hours>F9 had reusability time measured in months, then weeks, then days, the Falcon 9 architecture can't be reduced to less than days>with Starship it will go from days into hours
>>16249505Good for NASA for further killing that piece of shit missions that does NOTHING but suck up tax payer dollars as a welfare program. NOT GOING TO THE LAKES? NOT GOING TO SPACE AND THATS FINAL
>>16249510>>16249514nigger
>>16249507Back to the sharty retard.
Physical cringe at the estronaut asking about transpiration cooling and his own "idea" for it, man I had to stop watching for like an hour to recover, and now its still making me cringe hard the way elon talks and stammer fuck this is hard to watch maybe I'll just mute it though
>>16249512>the ship has to go into orbit and have a ground track that goes over the launchsite, that could take several orbits, the ship could take several hours. sometimes half a day or something like that>you would like to have a lot more ships than boosters>if you are going for max launch rate you would want something like 5 ships to every booster
>>16249483>long term 1000 a year of the shippure delusion>we might not build a thousand a year here, but this should be capable of 100 a yearstill too much, they won't need that many
>>16249517you just enticed me to watch the actual tour
>>16249522very little tour, very much talking and standing in one place
>>16249507stupid frogposter
>booster 3 grid fins>ship stretched>chines goneits over, Starship just gets UGLIER every iteration
>>16249176Orion is a lockheed product, bro
>>16249529It takes after Musk himself.
>>16249526>no fairywhat happened?
>>16249519>the stretched version [of Starship]is basically v2>depends if we call it V2>the slightly stretched version is V2, arguably>[Musk pointing at a Starship] its got the pez dispenser for tossing out the next generation starlink v3 satellites, those will be very large diameter, 7m diameter, 22feet>Tim: if this next test [IFT-4 which would launch the next day] goes well, would the next launch after that start testing the deployment of starlink?>we will see how this mission goes, this year is not about delivering satellites for starship, its all about ironing out the design question marks>the things that remain to be solved for starship, the single biggest one is, what does it take to get through the high heating of re-entry>we have some unsolved questions on the heat shield, a bunch of which we do not know if they are questions and some we are aware of because there have been challenges in the past with the space shuttle like the hinge are and the hinge gap and sealing that hinge gap and not having hot gas go blowing through super fast through that gap>we got a hot gas seal at the forward and rear flap hinge, one of the key questions is does that seal work? We think it will work, but it may not work [it didn't work]>then there are some questions about how well do the tiles stay on>there is a fundamental challenge here where the tiles are ceramics, you have basically a bunch of dinner plates stuck to a steel surface, the steel surface is getting cryogenically cold and shrinking, so on ascent the rocket has shrunk, you can't have the gaps between the tiles be too tight because they will just shatter against each other>then when its coming in from landing, you no longer have the cryogenic propellant in the tanks and the tiles get very hot, so now they want to expand, you have a contracted inner surface and expanding tiles>you can't have a big tile gap because then the plasma will get in there and melt the primary structure
>>16249540They should have gone with sweating to cool it...
>>16248676This vexes me
>>16249550Fuck off Spacegoy5
>>16249530Heatshield's built by the same subcontractor in Hyderabad.
>>16249550It's occurring to me that the anon here who used to hate anime religiously would have been more successful in purging it off the general if he had commissioned really shitty rocketgirls until everyone got fed up of having to look at the abominations.
>>16248676The SRBs as sleeves is a nice idea at least.
>>16249540>whats the right tile gap? its going to vary depending where you are on the ship, some parts of the ship have cryogenic propellant, some don't>how well do the tiles attach? if we attach them and we accidentally break one and its hard to see then that could be an issue>we currently think we are not resilient to the loss of a tile on the hot sections of the ship that are, the tank portion, the pressurized areas, the nose will be pressurized too>if a tile is lost on a pressurized area and you melt that area, that will cause it to pop and the ship will melt>people have asked why are there some missing tiles on the ship [that was about to launch], those are on the rear of the ship on an un-pressurized region, we want to see what happens if we lose a tile>we have plans for a secondary shield beneath the tiles that is much better than what we have right now>right now we have, I can't say the details of it because its ITAR controlled secret, the current material we use we think is not resilient to a tile failure, we have a new design that we think is resilient a tile failure>essentially its ablative, if you lose a tile you have to replace the ablative, you would lose out on re-usability but at least its intact>especially for carrying people, we expect starship to carry perhaps 100 people to mars and the moon, then its gotta be super reliable, ideally no single point of failure
STARFACTORY BUILDING IS SO AESTHETIC INSIDE HOLY SHIT
>>16249540thanks for posting all of this anon.I really can't stand estronaut so this is really helpful.
>>16248676jesus christ
>>16249557I stopped hating because the anime became much less frequent. Not sure if I'm the same person though.
>>16249575I was also 'the anti-anime schizo' on a few occasions, mostly because I thought it was funny. I still have that owl skull buried in a folder somewhere.
>>16249562>Tim: A long time ago you were talking about transpirational cooling>the mass trade that we did was like 4 years ago, maybe 5, it seemed at that time it would be at least twice as heavy as a ceramic heat shield, since then the weight of our ceramic heat shield has grown and if we factor in the secondary shield that is additional mass>it might not be that big of a difference between actively cooling and having ceramic tiles>Tim: Have you seen what Stoke Space have been working on? Its an aerospike with the base plug is the active region heat shield, its an expander cycle so when it gets back through the atmosphere they are using hydrogen to actively regenerate, its basically dumped out of the nozzles and that actually also gets some of the gas vented through the middle and you have a layer of gaseous hydrogen on the front and its being actively regened. I think its a cool concept and I was really impressed [continues to drone on for a while]
>>16249582>Tim: I think that was pretty neat, you guys have talked about transpirational cooling years ago so I don't know yeah.
>>16249586I don't envy you watching this, anon...
this is big
>>16249586>I think its probably correct that a ceramic heat shield is going to do better than transpiration>there is also the question if you are going to mars and you are coming in hot and you are coming back to earth you are coming in very hot>its not clear if transpirational cooling would succeed there [there being Mars-> Earth re-entry]
Once you install some basic life support on a colony, establish some solar panels and battery (night), establish isru of water/air/methane, you sort of get a complete picture of a functioning system. Add in a way to create a green house on Mars (LED or Sunlight), with plenty of dry food from Earth to last 50+ years, and some important chemicals, 100 people can survive for 100 years
>>16249501you can just post pdfs to /sci/unless it's a filesize thing, in which case the traditional remedy is to replace all of the later pages with Krystal from Star Fox porn
>>16249557he tried that, they were so bad he got banned
Godamn you'd never see a soviet or chinese factory look this aesthetic inside holy fuck
>>16249593>Tim: Here is my wacky dumb idea of the day, on the inside of the tank if you had like a thermal camera, a firehose of cryogenic coolant and you just spray it if there is a burn through.>Musk: Sure>Tim: Just spray it down from the inside, I don't know [reacting to how Musk is reacting to this idea, he didn't seem impressed]. I'll always be happy to throw out the dumb, the dumb ideas
>>16249613>>16249593>>16249586pls stop the secondhand cringe is coming back aaaaat least the actual Starfactory tour redeemed it I almost forgot about the beginning, I was lost marveling at the sheer scale of Starfactory, imagine if they make an even BIGGER one in KSC with all that free real estate
>>16249613>Tim: Especially if you have header tanks there filled with the cryo all pressurized ready to go, all its going to take one heat shield tile missing and its going to be a bad day>There is a lot of ways to solve the problem, what matters is that it is solved, there are many ways to achieve full reusability, what matters it is achieved>once you are over the hump of full reusability, whether one system is slightly better than another is a secondary concern
>>16249613>a firehose of cryogenic coolant and you just spray it if there is a burn through.Reminds me of the sprinkler that tried putting out SN10 when it was on fire.
>>16249589fuck me I recognize these equations.I don't think they're really rocketry related though.
>>16249621convective heating is relevant somehowuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh isn't reentry dominated by this sort of equation at LEO speeds?
>>16249613Do people have no shame?
>>16249604>>16249479lmaoI'm having a bit of a chuckle at imagining how many of those pdfs anon has saved are 'compressed'
>>16249529longer rockets are better looking.
>>16249619>we are trying to get the shell finished as quickly as possible but we still have a lot of work to do inside the factory>this will dramatically improve the production of the rocket, being able to move from one station to another, its going to be linear and adjacent flow>the thing that really matters, people talk about the production lines of Henry Ford, what matters is linear and adjacent flow supposed to a production line that actually moves>its simple, one thing moves after another and things move in a cadence, it doesn't matter if there is a conveyor belt or not, that is a secondary concern, doesn't matter>it only matters that there is a tempo, every station has about the same amount of work-time and things move from one station to another station and there is specialization of labor at each station, these are the principles that actually matter>the tents are very inefficient when you know what you actually want to build>at this point we are confident that this architecture is one of the possible solutions, that doesn't mean there might not be other solutions like the one you talked about but this will work, its just a question of ironing out the bugs and improving the performance of everything from the engines to the avionics to the primary structure to the heat shield, everything>it will work
>>16249635That's clearly not the case with Starship V3
>>16249540thanks for the elaborate rundown
>>16249575>>16249579I was anti anime at times too, but there was this one absolutely unhinged anime hater and I'm not sure if he's around
>>16249586I see nothing wrong with Tim's statement
>>16249635up to a point, proportions matter, second stages should not be nearly as lengthy as the first stage and so onthese are the rules of the Aesthetics of Rocketry>inb4 source? I made it up
>>16249630do you think Tim Dodd should feel shame for asking this?
You WILL live inside an airbed and you WILL be happy
>>16249641The only thing I've ever been unhinged about in /sfg/ is 'space flight' so I dont think thats me
>>16249636>the top remaining problem is a reusable heat shield>nobody has ever made a reusable heat shield, the space shuttle is closest, but that took 9 months and thousands of people to refurbish, one can not call something that takes that much time to refurbish reusable, certainly not rapid>for the first time ever there needs to be a rapidly reusable orbital heat shield, which no one has ever done, so its difficult>that is why I say it remains the biggest remaining problem>the goal of this flight and the flights for the rest of the year is to get through the high heating so the heath shield survives and the ship is still operational and the can steer itself to a specific location and do a landing burn in the ocean [they did]>for this flight we want the booster to do a landing burn in a specific location [which they did, accurate enough for a buoy mounted camera to film]>if we don't solve it in this flight, we will solve it in the next two or three flights, just having the booster do the hotstaging, do the boostback, steer correctly to a precise location and do a landing burn and essentially do a simulated tower catch
>>16249664>Tim: I think it might be cool if the tower mimicked it [the catch attempt] at here. How do we know the tower is going to be okay after a launch like that to be able to [shows catching with arms]>we operate the tower after the launch so we can tell if there is any damage>if this launch goes perfectly we will have the booster do a boostback and controlled descent to a specific location and do a simulated tower catch>if things go perfectly with the ship, which they probably won't, it will get through high heating, it will still be fully operational, it will control itself to a specific location in the ocean and then initiate a landing burn and also pretend its getting caught by the tower>I think we have maybe a 50-50 chance of the heat shield working>its high uncertainty, but if not on this flight then on the next 2 or 3 flights I think we will solve that
>tiles alone not good enough>ablative layer under tiles>can't remove tiles without breaking themHow is this rapidly reusable in any fashion?
>>16249673if the tiles don't break then you don't need to touch them
>>16249673>>16249675and the tiles are theoretically good enough alone, the secondary ablative heatshield is just insurance for situations when one tile was installed improperly, had a manufacturing defect etc
>>16249675delightfully unintuitive
>>16249673It will be rapidly reusable once we switch to fluids cooling starship instead of these tile things >>16249678>insurance for situations when one tile was installed improperly, had a manufacturing defect etclike last flight?
>>16249671>Tim: What happened with the roll thrusters? Don't tell me that was clogging due to the hot gas conversation we had, I'm still confused.>they got ice in the valves>they got clogged by ice, we are not exactly sure how>if water ice got into the oxygen side, there is a small amount, since the location we are tapping off the engine is not pure O2, its got a little bit of water ice>its OX-rich gas>Tim: Is it going off the turbine side?>yes>its got burnt fuel>Tim: Does it have a little bit of CO2 in it and can that turn into [CO2] ice>its got stuff that can turn into solid in cryogenic temperatures, I think that is relevant>solid stuff that blocks things
>>16249681>like last flight?what do you mean? there was no secondary heat shield on the last flight and it still got through finethe flap hinge problem is a separate problem
>>16249673gotta get a minimum viable product first, then worry about tiles later
reusable staging is go>>16244898>>16244898>>16244898
>>16249687>we have improved the ice strainers, we have improved the valves>in the future we will move to series-parallel valves for critical valves, any one valve failure does not take out the ability of the ship to orient itself correctly>Tim: Are you avoiding doing a more conventional heat exchanger?>our rocket is autogenously pressurized, we are pressurizing the fuel side with gaseous fuel, and OX side mostly with gaseous oxygen>with autogenous pressurization we have to not only heat up the gas, we have to produce the gas>there is a lot more mass you got to come up with>it actually affects our max power, especially on the fuel side, the pump on the fuel side is the limiting factor>if we turned off the autogenous pressurization on the fuel side, we would be able to get more power out of the pump>you're bleeding mass flow from the engine, there is quite a lot of work in taking cryogenic liquid to heat it up to be a hot gas>phase transition and a large temperature delta, there is a lot of work [probably talking about work in the physics sense, i.e. energy]
>>16249646I bet you prefer the stages to get narrower as you go up like a skyscraper
>>16249705>on IFT-3 we couldn't start the engines on the booster due to low pressure>the full answer is quite complicated, because we could have started with low pressure, we didn't need to start all the engines>this time we expect to have a lot more pressure and we are able to start at a lower pressure and we don't need all the engines to fire
>>16249650It's more the absurd firehose suggestion. Like something a kid would come up with. Also it was SO drawn out rambling about stoke
>>16249709>Tim: Are you trying to move to 3 grid fins for the booster?>its not a high priority, its a mass optimization thing>you definitely only need three, I think technically you would be able to do it with two if you are willing to oscillate>you are asking for a bit of trouble with just two gridfins but it is technically possible>three for sure, but that is a fairly minor optimization>for both the booster and the ship you don't need much control, the attitude control is small, you just can't have a leaky valve or stuck valve
>>16249705I was hoping Elon would actually answer the Raptor LOX pump heat exchanger question.
>>16249498this contains significantly less cartoon pornography than I was led to believe >:-(
>>16249713>Tim: After you fly, how much do you have to change things, you have to make changes into all ships, everything that is in production.>there are hundreds of changes that have to take place, not a few>if you go into detail level there might be thousands>across the ship and the boosters and the engines its thousands of changes between each flight, but many of them are very small>but a very small change could be a big deal>Tim:Imagine how long would it take a traditional aerospace company that had a rocket they are working on and they would have to make a thousand changes between flights and then fly two months later.>easily over a thousand, several thousand probably>a bunch of them are little changes but is it different that could have an effect on the rocket? yes, several thousand>Tim: At this point are you overbuilding them to try to just get through the heat shields to prove all the stuff and then work on mass?>we are trying to answer the biggest questions, the biggest one "What does it take to get through max heating with a reusable heat shield?", then be able to catch the booster and have the ship and also come back and be caught by the tower>those are the three very big things that need to happen
Staging>>16249740>>16249740>>16249740>>16249740>>16249740
>>16249613The way he brutally cuts right through many of estronaut's "comment questions" is pretty interesting kek. Reveals a bit of the machine-like levels of execution he operates on.
>>16249743based>>16249696cringe
>>16249696>>16249743Every FUCKING TIME!!!!
>>16249696kys
>>16249743where is the subject line?it doesn't hit my catalog filterswhy do newfags insist on creating threads?
Where do we go now?
>>16249774I was waiting for someone to stage, I've just been drinking for 2 days so I'm a bit tiredit was about to hit page 11 so I just did it quickly
>>16249780never stage drunk, anon
>>16249777Nowhere, we stay until one of them does seppuku.Or a mod does his fucking job for once.
>>16249783I'm not drunk anymore, just tired after midsummer
>>16249785last minutestime to choose
