Saturn Super - editionprevious >>16266833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv2F2l1HB6gwhat do we make of Elon's dancing style
>>16268929https://x.com/esa/status/1809211677105176786Well Ariane 6 is finally coming along and will launch coming tuesday?
Continuing Martian orbital mirror discussionhttps://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2022/07/12/how-to-terraform-mars-for-10b-in-10-years/
>>16268934Who cares? it's a dead rocket flying.
>>16268917>Saturn SuperHow would you stage this beauty?
>>16268940Seethe it is european century in the space flight
>>16268940Ariane 5s maiden launch failed, this might very well fail as wellH3 maiden launch failed
>>16268929For all the youngsters I just want to put it into context: back in like 2005 there was no such thing as cringe, it was cool to be edgy. And dancing like this in the club was the move.
>>16268952Its a political attack, what else?
>>16268945I mean as in it's outdated and doomed to die before it even launches.Who else besides european governments is gonna pay to fly on this thing? Even now it's only that and the ABSX market and the latter will move away from ariane when new glenn starts flying.
>>16268917What would you listen to while flying on this? Id listen to Niggers in Paris
SPEHS
>>16268955Even the euro governments would rather fly Falcon 9 if not forced by french lobbying.
So what starliner return date announced today?
>>16268961was this the largest vapor cone for 50 years?
>>16268981delayed for 45 more days
>>16268987Probably the largest ever? Everything Starship does breaks records
https://spacenews.com/regulating-outer-space-after-loper-bright/Relevant since the Chevron Doctrine was thrown out. Congress needs a new authorization to delegate proper legally and lawful regulatory system to the agencies. One which doesn't stifle innovation but also makes certain it doesn't fall into a a no limit fallacy.
>>16268943You're just posting gibberish at this point. Go watch more American TV and movies and come back when you understand English.
>>16269001America needs a practical, moderate and well thought out space policy that involves executing Jeff without a trial, vaporizing every old space company and declaring Elon the king of space.
>>16268955>Who else besides european governments is gonna pay to fly on this thing?European companies after they're legally forced to.
>>16269001Hopefully NEPA is next target.
>>16268987Idk if that counts, it was mostly unburnt fuel to precool the engines. They light up right after
>>16269003hon hon hon I see mon supériorité has created certain controverse
>>16268819Ok, let’s say you melt all the dry ice at the poles. You know that only raises the air pressure up to like 1.6% earth sea level right?Where do you get the rest of the density needed to hit the Armstrong limit?
>no dragon xl>no vertical integration falcon heavy>no extended falcon heavy fairing
>>16269046>no Red Dragon>no lunar Dragon flyby>no land landing of Dragon>no 7-seater Dragon
>>16268987why are vapor cones reminiscent of supersonic shock-waves?
>>16269047>>16269046>no powerpoint spaceflight
>>16269047The 3 things I listed have existing contracts
Did someone say Dragonfly?
have you guys heard about the recent 1 X 1 debate?
>>16269056No
>>16269056No but now that you mentioned it Cancel Dragonfly not visiting the lakes not going to space
>>16269065ultragay take
>>16268917its still on page 9
>>16269030First off those estimates are based only on whats visible from orbit, theres probably quite a bit more dry ice then we can see, so take that 1.6% as a lower bound rather than a max.Secondly there are many other gas reservoirs than the poles, for just one example we were talking about perchlorate eating bacteria last thread and as it so happens that process makes pure oxygen as a by product. There is a lot of perchlorates on mars.
>>16269074No its not theres literally a screenshot at stage shut the fuck up
Nope, not gettin' out of this chair.
>>16269065this is the way
>>16269085this is the way of samefagging
>>16269090Wrong I didnt samefag. Replying here to both for proof >>16269085 >>16269065
>>16269079I can tell by your use of profanity that you're experiencing emotional distress, but that doesn't change the fact that it was staged early. pic is what you look like
Heres your proof and Im on mobile so I cant inspect element fake it you are officially BTFO
I can't keep track of all these falcon 9 clonesWhen will we see the first non-spacex orbital booster propulsive land and be used a second time
>>16269105Time for you to go back to the sharty. I could recognize the awful wojak art from a mile away.
>>16269107Probably Blue or some random Chinese company in ~2025-2026
>>16268942With the load shown you'd probably be SSTO
>>16269085star wars!
>>16269110This, I'm really interested to see who gets there first, bezos or the chinese.Place your bets now.
>>16269050Vapor cones are just vapor cones, on jets the images are often mislabeled as being a supersonic shock wave
>>16269117Bezos is doing it this September!
>>16269142He's launching this september, not reusing a booster this september.Do you remember?
>>16269143Hey Im paid to shill Blue not to remember details
>>16269083kek
>>16269145rampant falseflaggin in this thread
"How can it equal one?" he said. "If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told it's two, and that cannot be."
>>16269145The 21st night of September?
>>16269046>no dragon xlIt's the resupply module for Gateway.>no vertical integration falcon heavySLC-6 at Vandenberg>no extended falcon heavy fairingFirst use is the HALO/PPE launch.
>>16268917The KitKat bar of space travel.
>>16269158something something Timecube
>>16269050go watch the Scott Manley video on vapor cones dude
>>16269102anybody can do that it doesn't prove shit, retard>>16269155yeah this thread is weirdly bad
>>16269083>Dies at the end of every episode>still comes backHe'll be fine
>>16269028Wow, is that the French space station?P.S. eat shit and die on earth
Starship is an absolute unit.
>>16269222It may as well be. France was the number one contributor besides Russia
>>16269222yeah, its a simple cylindrical construction. they call it the Flying Baguette
>>16269230and I guess that is the current 120m version?
>>16269230cor, totally jelly of that model collection. i keep meaning to get the saturn V model that has the apollo stack that you can take out and handle etc.
>>16269230Kino
>>16269230No shit lol
Why is Artemis 2 not happening this year? Ar1 flew in Dec 2022!The next mission isn’t until Q4 2025—this is unacceptably slow
>>16269268Because Lockheed invented a new way to install Avcoat on the Orion heatshield that would save a few weeks worth of time. Another pennywise and pound-foolish decision within Artemis.
>>16269257we found him. the only member of team space
>>16269257Nice boat.>>16269275He doesn't have any chink rockets in the frame.
>>16268955They're going to do the same thing that ULA (and before that Boeing/Northrop) did, suckle the government tits. Not exactly ambitious, but it pays the bills>>16268970You know US government have to use US rockets by law right? Europe doesn't even have this law right now. IIRC, back then Arianespace even floated the idea of doing an "americanized" Ariane 5 to get this market.>>16269230Is that Ares I behind the shuttle? Looks like pure garbage
>>16269289ESA should design a SX Super Heavy inspired reusable booster and offer it as some sort of “block 3 SLS” first stage to NASA. It could then be a partial ESA thing and they could launch it from french guiana. Orion, SUSIE, you could use A6’s second stage or EUS
>>16269311ESA should just stop giving a fuck and drop spent stages on Russia + China.
>>16269230>redditor manlet playing with legosGo back
>>16269201Nigger please I just forgot to attach picrel to >>16269106
>>16269314A friendly reminder that the EU has plently of good easterly launch locations, they just aren't on the land of the decision makers.
>>16269349Imagine trying to build a launch site in Spain. It would unironically take 200 years to complete
Nuclear reece's puffs in spaceflight when?
>>162693541990
It's UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMKzPs7Uk60
>>16269402Pity they didn't show the reignition of the booster's engines, those ground tracking views are always cool.
I miss this meme machine like u wouldnt believe bros
>>16269405It hurts my head how fast the booster flips. Every time it's happened, I assume it's going to fucking snap in half.
>>16269406Fuck off
>>16269408IFT-1 highlighted just how ridiculously durable that launch system is, let alone IFT-4.
https://youtu.be/DWJpCgFrFhU
>>16269420That doesn't look like pic related
>>16269426
>>16269412did they ever have any issues with pogoing or did booster just not give a fuck about that weak-rocket crap?
>>16269424what you posted isnt a starship
srb flames are so ugly
>>16269432pogoing and such is a solveable problem, especially with modern CAD
>>16269435Categorically incorrect. There is nothing sexier than a fat PLOOOM
>>16269432I'm not entirely sure, but I think the harmonic oscillations that cause pogo might be harder to realize with so many separate engines.>>16269434Another Starship video, you say? Well, alright then
>>16269441yeah good point. i seem to recall that its usually caused by propellant flow through large bore pipes, or something like that. been a while since i read about that stuff.
>the flaps have control of the vehicleWhy does this still make me tear up?
>>16269443pretty, though shiny particules are bad news when you're using a non-ablative heatshieldspeaking of reentry in general, NASA, various universities and SpaceX itself are probably interested in getting more experimental data, so that their models stop being so shitty (see the reentering dragon trunks and the ISS battery pack)
>>16269478It's not great, but erosion is a pretty common characteristic of heat shield tiles, which added to the maintenance burden of the space shuttles. Fortunately, SpaceX has the means, motivation, self-interest, and budgeting authority to keep developing and refining the tiles.
>Well give you 15 grand to do r&d for usIsnt this kinda pathetic? 15 grand is basically 1 cent to any us gov budget
>>16269426>>16269430Everything about that rocket is just so wrong. Designed in a spreadsheet.
>>16269476The flaps can increase the drag on that part of the vehicle, so you can orient it correctly as it falls through the atmosphere (shield side down)
>>16269481Yeah I don't doubt they will get better.
>>16269352What about Gibraltar
>>16269478die, french garbage
France has no part in space, like France has no future.Troll somewhere else, fagguette.
>>16269506Are you suggesting a British space program?
>>16269506what about Cueta?
>>16269529Man I'm so disappointed the brits cancelled their space program, they actually had unique ideas about how to do it. We could've gotten some cool rockets out if it.
>>16269538i think they preferred socialism instead.
>>16269349Mediterranean launch sites were considered back in the seventies and were quickly rejected in favor of locations like the undeveloped jungles of French Guiana or politically stable eastern African nations like Kenya or Somalia. The Med is just too crowded in terms of shipping traffic and bureaucratic fiefdoms for launch permitting to work as a responsive process. European regulatorism does not stop at the shore.
>>16269513?
>>16269546it's the same retard troll as earlieralso "particule" is French, not English
>>16269482>Detailed demospics?
>>16269506>implying Britain is more functional than Spainlmao
>A desert moss could be the key to terraforming Mars, according to a recent study published by Chinese scientists.>Due to its extraordinary resilience, Syntrichia caninervis (S. caninervis), a moss found in extreme desert environments from Tibet to Antarctica, has been touted a "pioneer plant" for establishing a livable environment on Mars. Basically, scientists believe this plant could enrich the planet's rocky surface to enable the growth of other plants.A few studies have explored alternative possibilities of these terraforming seeds, such as algae and lichens. "However, plants such as mosses offer key benefits for terraforming, including stress tolerance, a high capacity for photoautotrophic growth, and the potential to produce substantial amounts of biomass under challenging conditions," the new study's team wrote in the paper.>Mosses are believed to have been the first true land plants on Earth. As such, they developed a tolerance to extreme stress that allowed them to survive in our planet's very harsh early environment.
>>16269561>terraforming>chinese scientistsDropped. Go back to >>>/lit/sffg
>>16269558>the Br*tish: Let's give up our space program because why notembarrassing
>>16269542>politically stable eastern African nations like,,, Somalialol what but were the Canary Islands considered?
Easy to give mars an atmosphere, just build a giant solar mirror concentrator death ray in orbit, a bunch even, melt the poles and then slag giant molten craters to release CO2 and whatever other shit is trapped in the rocks that can be gassified with enough heat to dissociate bonds, could target some aquifers which are close to the surface too. You won't be able to breathe it but who gives a shit so long as you can go outside without a suit.
>>16269542could launch in mauritania east over the desertor just north over the north atlanticor stop being pussies crying about muh rockets might kill someone
>>16269561even on Earth lichen grow in conditions that are too shitty for mossapparently they can even survive hard vacuummy money is on lichen
>>16269567>>16268935
>>16269565>Canary IslandsGoing to an polar orbit you'd be dropping hyperbolic Ariane 1 stages on Mauritania and Senegal. Going to an equatorial orbit you'd be dropping them on Algeria and Lybia, and this was back in the days when Libya and ballistic missiles was a serious issue. That said, I'm pretty sure the Canaries was on a list at some point, even if it wasn't ever near the top. >>16269571Mauritania wasn't the worst place in Africa during the 1970s, but in 1978 President Moktar Ould Daddah, the French backed post-colonial dictator, was ousted in a coup and the country passed through a series of military juntas. Even if dropping stages in the desert was considered acceptable it just wasn't stable enough for a major European project like the Ariane 1. Besides, the launch market back then was focused on geostationary payloads and Europe was looking for something as equatorial as possible to maximize their competitiveness.
Reminder if you defend this your a filthy wumao. >in before whataboutism
>>16269565which will have a manned space program first, the EU or African Union?
>>16269590EU is going to be part of africa soon by the rate the natives are getting replaced at. So even if the EU is first, africa still wins.
>>16269589I wholeheartedly support dropping rockets on earthersTotal earther death
>>16269590Oceania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_space_in_Africa>one astronaut in orbit (Mark Shuttleworth)lol, lmao even
Jared Isaacman thought Polaris Dawn should be multiple missions at first because there are so many different test they are doing, but when he talked to Musk, Musk said to just do all of them in one mission
>>16269590https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Space_Agencyall it's missing is some Tusken Raiders
https://spacenews.com/foust-forward-whos-afraid-of-the-big-bad-starship/>SpaceX’s Starship launch vehicle elicits strong opinions. Take, for example, Toni Tolker-Nielsen, ESA’s director of space transportation. Asked in a SpaceNews interview about how Starship might affect Europe’s Ariane 6, he was dismissive. “Honestly, I don’t think Starship will be a game-changer or a real competitor,” he said, concluding that Starship was oversized for the types of satellites that would fly on Ariane 6. “Starship will not eradicate Ariane 6 at all.” >“How are we differentiated? Well, Falcon and Starship are rockets optimized for LEO operations,” said Tory Bruno, CEO of ULA, in a call with reporters June 26 about plans for his company’s second Vulcan launch. He argued Vulcan was optimized for high-energy missions. “We’re competing quite well.” >“I caution against saying they still have a long way to go because every time we’ve made that mistake in the past, they will be there. They will be ready. It will work,” said Arianespace’s Rutgers of SpaceX’s Starship development, acknowledging that his company and others dismissed SpaceX in the past. “I caution against hubris, so we have to constantly improve ourselves.” some cope commentary about Starship but one person from Arianespace being more realistic
>>16269606>Starship will not eradicate Ariane 6 at allThat's only because F9 did that job already.
>>16269495thanks chat GPT, he didn't need an explanation for what the flaps do, he's asking why they made him emotional
>>16269542just drop rockets into the Sahara
>>16269606>Honestly, I don’t think Starship will be a game-changer or a real competitorThey are funny aren't they
What vehicle are these thrusters for? The new station?
>>16269595>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_space_in_Africashieeet
https://payloadspace.com/q2-charts-defining-the-space-industry-payload-research/
>>16269615>There were 63 total global launches in Q2 2024, a 40% YoY increase. The usual suspects, SpaceX and China, are once again leading the charge.
aww fuck
>>16269616>SpaceX launched 36 Falcon missions in Q2 2024, bringing the total for the first half of the year to 67 flights.
>>16269617It's over
>>16269606>>16269608>>16269611They're hoping that SpaceX will not manage to repeat its success in booster reuse with Starship's two critical technologies: low cost ship reuse, and orbital refueling. The unspoken reality is that they don't have the business plan, cash flows, cash reserves, or investors to justify trying to develop a plan for it.
>>16269617remember that storms are rightfisted. The surge probably won't hit Boca. They might get a lot of rain tho'.And I'm a bit concerned about Corpus Christi.
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1806296399882994168didn't see discussion about this but apparently Bruno was whining about the plans on twitter I know there was discussion about BO a bithttps://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/theres-not-enough-room-for-starship-at-cape-canaveral-spacex-rivals-claim/
>>16269610just drop rockets onto Subsaharan (black) africa
>>16269597what's that say?
>>16269625
>>16269617There's no chance if this happening
>>16269614It was a Chinese satellite paid for by Nigerians. Truly a stunning technological achievement for Africa (They managed to pay the bill, which requires at least a primitive understanding of money).>NigComSat-1 was a Nigerian communication satellite. The initial contract to build the satellite was signed in 2004. It was launched in China by Nasrda and became the third African geosynchronous communication satellite, when it was launched at 16:01 UTC on 13 May 2007, aboard a Chinese Long March 3B carrier rocket, from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre in China. The spacecraft was operated by Nigerian Communications Satellite Ltd (NIGCOMSAT). On November 11, 2008, NigComSat-1 failed in orbit after running out of power due to an anomaly in its solar array.
>>16269625>During the squabble over LC-39A more than a decade ago, Musk presciently told Space News that if Blue Origin showed up with a crew spacecraft that could dock with the space station within five years, SpaceX would gladly accommodate them. "Frankly, I think we are more likely to discover unicorns dancing in the flame duct," Musk said.lmaohttps://spacenews.com/37389musk-calls-out-blue-origin-ula-for-phony-blocking-tactic-on-shuttle-pad/
>>16269627Launch them from Subsaharan (black) africa
>>16269620>it's overthe drought? yep
>>16269628Do Not RemoveI?????ted TileI can't tell either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGgthe upcoming storm seems to have shut everything down
>>16269597>>16269628Instrumented Tile, I think
>>16269640it definitely says "instrumented tile"they put temperature sensors in a few of them
>>16269614Oh my God, there's even a Stephen Clark (discount Berger) article on the nigsat:https://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1112/18longmarch/https://archive . is/8chTu
https://spacenews.com/kazakhstan-joins-chinas-ilrs-moon-base-program/> Kazakhstan joins China’s ILRS moon base program
>>16269645as expected from the meeting earlier this week
>>16269644read the fucking commentsI'm dying
>>16269633Chinks gave them a replacement and its still working
>>16269641>leaving scaffolding up during the stormseems risky af
>>16269647I'm not sure if I should be surprised that they announced it so soon, or that they didn't announce it back on Wednesday with everything else
>>16269650Africa doesn't have the best luck with purchased geostationary comsats. Angola went through the same thing buying Angosat 1 from Russia.
>>16269614>>16269649
Well, Muskrats? Why didn't he think of it?
>>16268917new card, what do you think?
>>16269662why does the rocket need a foreskin?
>>16269662You'd lose a lot of performance. First you need to keep the weight of the fairings all the way to orbit instead of dropping them around the 200s mark, then you need to make them a lot heavier by adding an orbital-grade TPS. You could do it but you'd lose way too much payload to make it worth the effort.
>>16269665Because foreskin is great
>>16269650>NigComSatThat's up there with ScatSat.
>>16269695The poos launched a satellite?
>>16269698they launch quite a lot of stuff in fact
>>16269663WoahVery nice
>>16268917why do space related threads on sci outside of sfg suck so much?
>>16269695>Skabadabadabadoobelidabbelydabbladabbladabblababbelibabbelibabbelibabbelabbelodoobelidoo>I’m the ScatSat
>>16269705They get fed garbage and don't know what's what. It's not limited to sfg and space, but to all domains and their hobby groups.
>>16269663That's great, now let's see the numbers on performance. It's gonna get utterly MOGGED by solar panels.
starbase is gonna get REKT by TOTAL ROCKET GENOCIDE HURRICANE BERYL. It's so over for SpaceX, they're gonna be held back 2 months.
Starchica has been spared the brunt of the storm
>>16269567And if you want nitrogen, import an assload of ammonia from the outer solar system. It will dissociate into N and H in the order of weeks, and the H will be lost into space.
>>16269710>It's gonna get utterly MOGGED by solar panels.no moving parts.PV's have to get replaced every 20-30 years.mine can run for centuries.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18093817561996618792x two more weeks
>>16269721So second of august?
>>16269717>mine can run for centuriesnot with stirling engines lol. Fluids in the thermosyphon will need replacement too>PV's have to get replaced every 20-30 years.yes and? In 20-30 years solar panels will have improved. It will make sense to replace them. Your working temperature difference will be SHIT and thermocouples are SHIT. You may need 20-30 years just to break even on embodied energy. This idea is SHIT.
Add two weeks to the two weeks you were already waiting for
>>16269721yes
>>16269731You know what happens after two weeks. Another two weeks starts.
>>16269729>Fluids in the thermosyphon will need replacement tooFluids = air (orange)>In 20-30 years solar panels will have improved.and mine will still be working.>Your working temperature difference will be SHIT and thermocouples are SHIT.pretty easy to maintain though.
>>16269721How are we tracking on the delay between launches halving each time?
>>16269721TWO PLUS TWO WEEKS
>>16269721Shit I wanted to post that
>>16269739~60 days down from 80-90 days previously
>>16269736>airgood fucking luck making a practical thermosyphon with fucking air. >and mine will still be working.generating about as much power as a potato battery. It'd be more valuable to scrap it than to keep it running. Show your math that this can generate any significant amounts of power at all you reddit-spacing midwit tripfag
>>16269698
>>16269705because /sfg/ regulars are naturally cross-boarders, rather than being /sci/zos from the rest of the board
two more sets of two weekshttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/1809381756199661879
>>162697212^2 weeks
>>16269763This is false by the way.
>>16269773>>16269763The first part is false about being crossboarders the second is true. By the way if youre crossboarder scum you arent welcome. Use /sfg/ exclusively or shut up about being a 'regular'
>>16269625The ULA whining about a monopoly. Imagine showing this to someone in 2011
>>16269721we been knew it was early aug
>>16269774"crossboarder" meaning "only visits /sci/ for /sfg/"The only time I even see the catalog is when we get a new thread, because I'd rather start a new fresh tab.
>>162697214 weeks elon time. Probably 4 weeks and a few days to roughly 5 weeks in reality.
looks like geryl isn't going 100 miles south.
>>16269230>white ET on the shuttlebased
>>16269752>practicalby what standard?
>>16269752>Show your math that this can generate any significant amounts of power at all you reddit-spacing midwit tripfaghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_collector#Heating_water
Tory is complaining about a monopoly when ULA did its best to have a monopoly on Air Force launches lmao
View from the booster after splashdown apparently>https://x.com/bocasbrain/status/1809390911782367455?s=46
>>16269752https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq8xDXkbXZs
>>16269835fake and gay
>>16269774retard
>>16269835that's a muffin
Since /sfg/ is apparently a meteorology thread nowhttps://x.com/MattDevittWX/status/1809399256849264753>Beryl's potential landfall has shifted nearly *250 miles up the coast in just 24 hours* according to the latest consensus models (pink). Consequently, it'll spend more time over the warm water of the Gulf of Mexico. Impacts from Beryl are trending upward for the Houston/Galveston area as it approaches the Texas coast as a projected hurricane. To what degree? We'll know more on Saturday.
SpaceX has deflected the hurricane.
>>16269856Eric Berger lives a double life as a weatherman>https://www.wired.com/story/unlikely-hero-who-predicted-hurricane-harvey-floods/
>>16269835Why would the fireball be so uniform?
>>16269856Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and the communist chinese are using their weather machines to stop SpaceX.
>>16269612what propellant is making it that color? Looks like powerade
>>16269668so just make the rocket bigger. It's worth it if you're recovering everything
>>16269890Kill yourself tripnigger
>>16269893ill take that as a yes.
>>16269774Shut up fag. you don't make the rules.
>>16269612>>16269878This claims they're working on methalox thrusters.https://www.ansys.com/blog/axiom-space-is-using-ansys-simulations
>>16269890>>16269902kill yourself, tripnigger
>didn't even notice the trip nigger because 4chan-x filtered him and all others for mefeels good lul
>>16269915I should filter him so I literally can't see his posts but then I won't be able to report him when he inevitably breaks the rules
>>16269913>Lamest insult ever.
>>16269406>that engine clench
>>16269662This whole underside of the fairing would still be exposed. I don't know how it would handle reentry with the extra weight of the second stage. Also the heatshield would be much more complex and delicate than heatshields usually are. In the video it clips through both the top of the stage and the engine.
Theories on why the hurricane is suddenly avoiding Boca Chica?>Chinese weapons test gone wrong>Starliner secretly crashed, Boeing used their weather machine to destroy the wreck near Houston and coverup>Beryl has family in a leper colony off the coast and is coming to visit>John Madden used the controls at his secret moon retirement home to alter the tidal waves
>>16269933Real recognize real
>>16269828I said show YOUR MATH. Did I fucking say wikipedia's math? NO! Did I say a youtuber's math. NO! I said YOUR MATH!>>16269824>>16269836I don't see a single fucking number midwit
>>16269933no FAA approval
>>16269933starlink is a stronger HARP
>>16269921
>>16269230a bit wonky
>>16269933Berger’s second law: anytime he says “scattered showers” for houston, it really means some sort of life-threatening storm
>>16269721August 15
>>16269882Good idea!
>>16269933This lil nigga too powerful
>>16269933Musk has actual divine guidance and protection, that's why
Does spinning fast do anything special on reentry?
>>16270023Makes the debris field a little bigger
>>16269949just like the real thing
>>16269573Lichen is also sensitive to air quality so the sandstorms on Mars may be a problem.
>>16270023It's a good trick!
>>16270054Anakin pls
>>16269933The CIA
>>16269239might need to remove ceiling panel for the longer one
>>16269555I want detailed demos with the asian ladies in second place.It's a scientific interest.
bros???
>>16270029That's a really cool photo
>watching asmongold>he doesnt know humans are going back to the moonif some nerd who lives on the internet 12 hours a day doesnt know something so basic then how can we expect the average normie? do the norms even know about spacex? that china has sent people to space? that we're very close to colonizing another planet?
>>16269482I know 15k is not a lot of money, to work with, but I love how this exemplifies the different flavours of terrible R&D>the rocket surgeon has (presumably) barely working prototype niggerrigged from literal garbage only the inventer knows how to operate>spuds team has some basic drawing that they will keep refining in academia for 20 years and write 30 different student studies but never actually do anything with it>Designer wistfully looking to the side has a 3D render concept of fashionable bicycle shorts with a tube coming from it (how it works is left to engineers to figure out)
>>16270072zoob wtf
>>16270084>that we're very close to colonizing another planet?I'm way too cynical to believe it, I have seen this topic coming and going since the 80s with a lot of empty promises and wild ideas and projects that at first glance look like they are going to put humanity to even the Kuiper Belt and several generations later there is still little political or economical will to actually commit people to it.Yes, reusable rockets have cheapened putting things in orbit but there is a difference between launching small payloads, still near our atmosphere, and setting up a whole Lunar colony.
>>16270084No. Many normalfags just do not care.
>>16270084>that we're very close to colonizing another planet?We aren't, but that depends also on what you mean by close and colonizing.
They're stranded
>no FH extended fairing
>>16270084Love me some asmongold
We will never colonize Lunar. At most we will have research stations set up there when we get reusable rockets. Maybe in the future it will act as a relay to Mars.
>>16270161Starmoon will be colonized
>>16270161>Maybe in the future it will act as a relay to Mars.Outed yourself as a newfag immediately
lunar railguns lobbing boulders at m*rs
>>16270161>Lunar
>>16270177That is the correct name for the moon of Terra, yes.
>>16270179N I G G
>>16270179It's Luna you troglodyte
>>16270179I should bait in these threads more often
>>16270179>the moon of Terrorftfy
>>16270187lmao
>>16270179Terra has no moon
>>16269022whats this, when did it happen? Is this launch 4 somehow filmed from a boat?
>>16269542>European regulatorism does not stop at the shore.Greatest issue with Europe is the only thing the innovate in is regulations.
>>16269663Very dependant on proximity to sun. How hot does a black body get at earth's orbit? That gives you your hotside temperature, Carnot theorem limits power enormously.Way to get around this is to add mirrors. Concentrate the solar rays down to a much smaller thermal collector and you'll increase the BB temperature. You could even angle the mirrors via servo to get some degree of control over heating.
>>16269736>>Your working temperature difference will be SHIT and thermocouples are SHIT.Concentrating lightwieght milar mirrors
>>16270218>he still thinks mirrors are real
Project Lyra, a mission to catch up to 2017U1, the first known interstellar object to pass through our solar system, will use an Oberth manuever to accelerate a craft to >50km/s, however, there will be a ~17km/s difference during approach that will make a potential landing on the object impossible. Can the great minds of /sfg/ devise a way that the great minds of JPL etc couldn't?
>>16270227Lithobreaking to zero out velocity
>>16270227scrape fast radio bursts for numanuma API keys and command a braking burn
>>16270227A parachute to create drag and slow the craft down.
>>16270206Nah it's video from some buoy, I guess they either put some in the area they were targeting or there was already some there for whatever reason.
why does this ULA shark keep biting people off of south padre
>>16270227
What do I think of the latest spaceflight slop?
Starship is a dumb name. They should’ve stuck with BFR
>>16270259yup
>>16270236you are worthy to join these two
>>16269663What's driving the fluid flow?Using air to transfer heat seems massively suboptimal.If you're using a thermocouple why do you need a fluid to transfer heat at all?
>>16269828Fucking retard. Learn to recognize when you're wrong or just end it.
>>16270023If a spacecraft achieves sufficiently high angular velocity on reentry the crew will be killed.
>>16270072Don't get it twisted. He's only following this because it's his alt account.
>>16270161Elon has suggested building Moon Base Alpha. His crazy ideas are more likely to be realized than the plans of global superpowers.
>>16269663Fucking retarded.Is this in space? Then your thermosiphon won't work unless you're spinning it, in which case how is it staying pointed at the sun? It's definitely not being actively pointed at the sun because your shitbox doesn't have any moving parts.If it's on earth you should just use the ground as a heat sink.
>>16270218>no moving parts>concentrating mirrorshow does it maintain a constant angle to the sun?
>They continue to reply to the tripfaggot
>>16270279>Elon will bring us John MaddenFuture is bright
I used to hate Elon but he is the only one pushing humanity forward.
>>16270315hate him for what? faggot
>>16270320having sex
>>16270322something he has to do to get the jews off his backwhether you believe in some conspiracy or not, they are a very influential minority in the US and worldwide
>>16270322Was that a humiliation ritual?
>>16270328Doesn't matter. He still bent the knee to them, as the west has done for the past 70 years.The thought of a future human space civilisation where Jews haven't been totally eradicated makes me shudder.
>>16270322Go back to >>>/pol/ retard
Poland can into spacehttps://youtu.be/4bySNlqMwss
>>16270332You should go back to R3ddit.
>>16270333What is behind that door?
>>16270331he isn't powerful enough to ignore them (yet) and it would require a more general cultural shift to stop treating them as some oppressed minority group (or treating minority groups in a special way in general)
>>16270337the rest of the building visible in the background when it's not wheeled out of the way for the launch
>>16270337Andoya is such a beautiful launch site, wish it was used more.>>16270349Oh, right, lol.Thanks
>>16270349so silly
>>1627022717 km/s isn't actually that hard to get with a decent ion drive. An 8000s isp engine could get that sort of performance with a mass ratio of less that 2. The only problem is that when you're 180+ AU out into the abyss nuclear is your only real option for power and that puts a fairly large minimum size on your spacecraft. Project Lyra itself is even worse because a lot of that speed is coming from the mother of all Oberth maneuvers, which requires its own propellant as well as the sturdiest thermal protection system ever designed, neither of which are going to be very light. I've seen a few proposals for sundiving probes that used a discarding heat shield on the way in and a solar sail for acceleration on the way out, but if you're carrying a reactor that's not going to be a viable option.
>>16270072kek
>>16270227BNTP with water propellant and a Horizon Drive for the electric cycle.
Orbotal flight test 5august 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3dw9QuWK5w>Starbase Weekly, Ep.123: Boca Chica Tower B Ready To Stack!
Countries buying flights from Axiom for clout is the microwave food equivalent of a space program
>>16270442UAE's space probe was built by Pajeets and Americans, what would that be?
>>16270072based zubby
>>16270361Project Lyra is baselined around Atlas V and other similar rockets. Baseline it around an in-orbit assembled stack based on Starship and the mission's C3 becomes absolutely silly.
> I believe him. I have been taking a robotaxi to the local hyperloop to the space port so i can take a quick hop in starship to london for a pint and back. All because of him and his dreams.How long until this is possible?
Hey guys, so anything exciting happening?
>>16270474RGV live is looking at rusty pipes
>>16270474Starbase is halted for the hurricane
>>16270443Orbital doordash.
>>16270477
so why they didn't build a trench for the 1st tower again?
>>16270488not 100% sure about this but I remember hearing something about additional EPA shit if they did thatso would have taken more timewhy didn't they put the steel plate before IFT-1? because it would have slowed them down, the concrete would have to be removed anyway for more piles and they didn't think it would have been destroyed this fully, but turns out it wasn't really that big of a deal (maybe lost on time on some more EPA or FAA shit but who knows
>>16270488A trench adds more surfaces that need upkeep against rocket impingement. A strictly open pad has no surfaces to maintain. A strictly open pad is in conflict with the reality that there are things around the pad that are not going to have a good time dealing with the flame plume, so it's better to have a surface whose specific purpose is only dealing with the flame plume.
>>16270474Launch in 2 weeks, Elon going to prison, Kamala is presidentBankruptcy soon
>>16270488They tried to, but environmental delays would have added months of delay, so they launched without it. Failing that, they create a water cooling solution. And now, doing trenches. I think they're trying to see which one is more viable with A/B for trench vs water cooler
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1809642108216652001
>>16270507water cooled trench
>>16270509https://www.myfaceinspace.com/
>>16270513>soifaceinspaceMakes you hope there is no other life in the universe, in case they'll die out of vicarious embarrassment from what we leave behind.
>>16270518
>>16270511the masseys static fire pad has a partially water cooled trench
>>16270084clip or stream link to when he said that?
https://x.com/Ringwatchers/status/1809595603879375242https://ringwatchers.com/article/prop-dist-29v33>Cleaning up the Design: Comparing Super Heavy's Propellant Distribution Systems
>>16270551
>>16269625>t-they're not outcompeting us look at this chart!>NOOOOO THEY'RE OUTCOMPETING US THIS IS A MONOPOLY, ENVIROTARDS PLEASE HALP!i have seriously lost all respect for this snake over the past 2 years, constant blatant lying from a person who very clearly has the engineering knowledge to know better.
>>16270479that's where they keep the slaves who have to manually push waterpumps for the deluge system.
>>16270467hyperloop will never be real on Earth probably
>>16270521>we'll put your face on our screensaverbruh
>>16270585as much as i would never bother with it, it's genius because they're playing into the reality that most normies are hilariously vane and superficial and would absolutely pay for something completely meaningless like this.
>>16270592I was thinking about it and would have submitted a picture of my Cirno fumofumo
>>16269625The last sentence does not at all follow from the first 3 lmao. Lobby Congress to do away with exclusion zones and EPA rules you faggot snake, Tory. Hell, have them change the laws to fly overland and your poor little ears won't hurt ever again
>>16269634>11 years later and Boeing's capsule has launched crew once and they're currently stuck on the station>Atlas V is also dead because of political climate
>>16270563If they are complaining about 40 Starship launches a year, I have some bad news for them...
>>16270594that's not a bad idea honestly.i don't like having my picture taken regardless, but sending a fumo face up there, even in image form, mite b good.
>>16270551All these feel like itar sensitive information
Put me in coach I'm ready
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hAnjrKxQEA>Artemis II core stage construction began in 2017I didn't think that it was possible to hate SLS more than I already did. I was wrong.
>>16270084asmongold is a troglodyte that doesn't go outside and doesn't take care of himself. Not exactly a good representation of a normal person
Imagine the gall of Space X. They're trying to launch rockets from a launch complex.
>>16270620There she is
>>16270622Is he /ourguy/?
>>16270467Prob won't for another 15 years.
>>16270624also his name is ass mongoloid
>>16270084Baldy ain't normal
>>16270603I don't think the plumbing is ITAR sensitive but the sensors, pumps and cooling probably is
>>16270729It's all a certain series of plumbing that runs afoul of ITAR. The only reason its out in public is because public analysis from public space imagery. This is absolutely helping other companies and countries develop rockets.
>>16270551>rapid interation>15 years into design
>>16270603>>16270729ITAR isn't the ring watcher autists' problemIt's a problem for the retards that is leaving shit out in an aera where there are known photographers literally everywhere
>>16270084>do the norms even know about spacex?no. often they don't even know the first thing, I'm not exaggerating. It feels like bringing up the space shuttle or the ISS and the person you're talking to only knows about the moon landing.
Hello guys does someone know which board has the Christianity general? I need to ask those guys something and if I don't get to I'll have to post my off-topic shit here.
>>16270729AAAAAAAAA I'm a sucker for pump and really need to know what they look like REEEEEEEEEEEEpicrel is rare type of pump
>>16270749Raptor has legit been than long in development apparently
>>16270757>only knows about the moon landing.lol they don't.i know more about apollo than every boomer i talk to who was there to witness it.engineering is just a pretty niche interest most people don't care and most aren't intelligent enough to understand
>>16270768it is also the most important part.it needs to have incredibly insane thrust for nozzle area otherwise you're back to zero payload and building a carbon fiber meme booster
>>16270766/his/
>>16270775I can't fucking find it
>>16270777It doesn't exist.4chan is a small website and most of it is garbage, most generals aren't as consistent as this one either.
>>16270781it's over
>>16270783>>16270786>in 10 years there will be rows of these in flawda, launching every few hourswe aint ready
>>16270788Total homeowner death
>>16270789What if in 10 years dramatic sealevel rise floods Cape Canaveral?
>>16270788>in flawda>launching every few hoursEvery F9 launching there is very loud already.There is zero chance the nimbyists are going to put up with it.The sea launch platforms are going to be necessary.
>>16270790They will just build a giant wall around the whole state. There are too many rich people and too many trillions of dollars in real estate and assets to just let it be destroyed
>>16270789Florida is going to depopulate anyway in the next few decades with ever rising number of superstorms and the fact that the entire peninsula is sinking in to the ocean.
>>16270796they can be like Netherlands
>>16270796Lol, this is the US, even if it's possible economicaly and technicaly to build deltaworks like that, it will never happen because of corruption&nepotism. Take the commiefornia high speed rail project for example, that project is so far behind, so far over budget, in lawsuit with every other nutjob&greenfag group&etc... that most people who work on the project are already saying they will never see it complete in their lifetime. And that's just a fucking railroad. Now compare that to building dams&etc.. on the entire coastline of florida.
>>16270797>rising number of superstormsYeah I dunno why you would live somewhere that gets absolutely devastated at least once a decade>entire peninsula is sinking in to the oceanNothingburger. They're talking about a few cm. Currently it has risen not at all.10 meters would still be fine which is not happening the next hundreds of years.
>>16270803>Nothingburger. They're talking about a few cm. Currently it has risen not at all.>10 meters would still be fine which is not happening the next hundreds of years.Not talking about the ocean rising, talking about the sinkholes all over the place.
>>16270805Ah just dredge up sand from the ocean and put it in the hole.It is that easy in sinkholefillery
Does Netherlands need to pump all the rainwater back into the sea
Would the instruments we've had on Mars have discovered if it had huge Methane stores like the Earth has?
>>16270809Yes, the netherlands has a shitload of pumps all over the coast, and a lot of areas to store freshwater when it's hightide.
>>16270813Perseverance' dowsing rods can only detect water
>>16270807Yes, and no. I'm going to be a dick here to make a example.Where are you going to take that sand from, are you going to destroy a area in the sea to take that sand? Green&wildlife organizations will start a shitload of lawsuits against you for trying to get that sand. Or what about the sand shortage problem because of concrete demands? Should that sand not be better used for the US concrete industry then filling up some hole?
>>16270819>>16270807there is a simple solution. give florida to the swampkrauts, we will force you to speak our awful language, and we will launch andre kuipers on from the starship pad being built near LC-39A, he will go to Europe (the moon) and polder it.and then we will save your state and stop it from flooding, we'll even make it 20% bigger as a bonus.
>>16270813Hydrocarbons would be a lot less useful on mars though cause you need to still electrolyze water to get oxygen.
>>16270819Aren't dykes made of clay anyway? Sand is very water permeable. Hopefully Florida has some clay.
>>16270813>>16270832this, plus you get some heat back by converting the hydrogen (that you get anyway from water) into methane
>>16270834only the outer layer needs to be made of clay, topped with a thick layer of grass, the core can all be sand, and the part closer to sealevel should be rough rocks to break waves.though for the parts of your coast that see the most wave action, if you really wanna future proof it, you might want something like picrel.
>>16270828kekI support this. replace their poptards with stroopwaffeln >>16270834quite a bit of the NL coast is concrete dams. still need a lot of sand for that as aggregate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeelandhttps://watersnoodmuseum.nl/I visited zeeland a couple of years ago and went to the museum they build out of ww2 D day pontoons. There you will see that building dams is not that easy and it was already a massive project for a small nation like holland. I dont see the US doing the same for the entire florida coastline. It was also funny to find out that a lot of land reclaiming in holland was done by lifestock shitting all over the place and raising the ground level that way.
>>16270849>it was already a massive project for a small nation like hollandyeah, in the 17th century. we've learned a thing or two about infrastructure projects since then.
Interesting I was just thinking how easy it is in dykery. I mean when you do the math each floridaman would essentially have to pay for only 0.1 meters of dam which really isn't a lot.
What radius around a Starship launch at the edge of which it is as loud as an airliner from the ground?Are there a lot of places like that?Cause then I'm a overland launch shill from now on.
>>16270858As loud as an airliner at cruising altitude while you're on the ground
>>16270849how come the excuse literally every time the US doesn't have something a smaller nation does have is "oh well it's because we're too big see".The US has more than enough money, knowhow, people and industry to protect florida in the same way the netherlands did.
>>16270860>>16270802I will believe the US can build dams to save florida the day they finish the commiefornia high speed rail.
>>16270862i'll believe florida is in any danger at all the day real estate prices in miami start dropping
>>16270865two more weeks.
Autismhttps://x.com/mcrs987/status/1809685561344393657
>>16270766/x/ has /ceg/ which is probably what you wanted since you are asking 4chan questions about Christianity
>>16270869I'm not going to read all that. Give me a short version.
>>16270871thanks I'll ask them I guess
Stage this dogshit already
>>162708723D Artist claims that the Super Heavy nuke pic is real
>>16270860Anon Florida has five times more coastline and a quarter the population density. And hurricanes. You're just wrong I'm afraid
>>16270884false. all coastlines have infinite length.
>>16270880Staging is not going to help, there are no news and starbase is closed, the storm is going to miss starbase as well
>>16270885Some infinites are larger than others. Florida's is five times larger
>>16270884concerning the cost question see:>>16270857
>>16270880shut up fag
>>16270889no infinities are larger than others by a scalar factor
>>16270880Fuck off, it's interesting.
>>16270072maybe he's going senile
>>16270890Well that would also completely annihilate one of the most unique ecosystems in the world
>>16270895Fucking redditor the most interesting thing there was this thread was the lego models and only manchild subhumans like that shit.
>>16270898wouldn't dramatic sea level rise annihilate the Everglades anyway?
>>16270902It would, but it's not going to happen anyways.
>>16270902No they'd just move
>>16270900I really hate instant gratification zoomers like you. >>16270902And san andreas fault line big one is overdue, and yellowstone is a whole other problem. you cant really do anything about those kind of things.
>>16270892N = 2 x N ?
Where are we at with this, romania bros?
>>16270911N = 0
>>16270912They had to scale back a bit, this is their lastest design.
>>16270913Sorry, I meant the natural numbers have the same cardinality as the cartesian product of a set with two elements and the natural numbers.
>>16270912They're currently testing a 24 ton to LEO heavy launch water heater, according to their website. Seems legit!
>>16270921>Ecorocket HeavyIt's been a long while since we talked about this flying nightmare
>>16270925>378 days of sealed fartsImagine.
>>16270912Forget that, when are we getting the stabilo?
>>16270927I have seen this before.
>>16270924>>16270921>>16270912They released a video TODAYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40slLVQzRs
>>16270936>The development of the CER-160TR product is in line with ARCA's policy of producing exclusively defensive, non-lethal weapons, with the proceeds being allocated to the development of the civilian AMi Exploration and EcoRocket programs.
https://www.ecorocket.space/On the other EcoRocket website they're selling *checks notes* Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihWYmQTQ2UJust watched this video someone linked a few threads back.My god, I've never seen such a clear example of the dunning-krueger effect in the wild. He talks so confidently about he clearly knows little about. He doesn't even know how little he knows.
>>16270944That's a snow cone maker.
>>16270946>exoplanetfag whining because based Kyplanet shat on Trappist-1Sad!
>>16270949If he shat on the trappist system he was right to.He's still a retard about solar system colonization.
>>16270936this is epic
>>16270791when starship is required to launch starshield v2, it won't matter what nimbys think
>>16270946There's a lot of slop on youtube.
>>16270944It looks like those are supposed to be training MIRVs for interceptor testing, which isn't the dumbest product to try and bring to market>CER-160>20 km, Mach 1.9>CER-500>30 km, Mach 2.1>CER-1200>40 km, Mach 2.6Have we ever seen a steam rocket that could come anywhere close to these specs? The CER-160 they're showing off in the video looks like it could barely do 200m horizontal.
>>16270885Based and fractal pilled
>>16270883Nuke from doing what? falling over? Remember there was a lot of gas coming out from a blown engine.
>>16270946Yeah I watched that, couldn't believe how much of it was wrong. There's a new trend among EDS space fans where they're moon over Mars.
>>16270788>every few hoursYou mean each pad every few hours right? The cape is gonna look like DFW pretty soon
>>16270960Yes the leaked picture
>>16270964Honestly the harder he denies he has EDS the more it seems like he does.Like if you're on a date and the girl unprompted goes on a 5 minute spiel about how she definitely doesn't have aids.
>>16270956>>16270944It's "interesting" that they never show views from the "rockets" or any wide angles. You can clearly hear that the audio ends like 3 seconds after launch so there's no way any of those are going higher than a $20 model rocket would, and these are presumably without any payload.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug
>>16270979buy an ad
>The cause of the breakup remains unclear, but LeoLabs, which was the first to publicly report the event, believes that a “low-intensity explosion” either from a collision or within the spacecraft itself created the debris.https://spacenews.com/low-intensity-explosion-caused-russian-satellite-to-spew-debris/why does everyone refuse to say whether it was an accident or destroyed on purpose? people know but they're keeping it hush hush. reminds me of nord stream.
>>16270979
>>16270979kindve a handsome guy
>>16270988Kind've? Kind have?
>>16271007Kind of, retard
>>16270978I am 100% certain that some of my old Estes rockets are beating this thing on altitude. >>16270981No one really gains anything by public speculation, and that's all we can really do at this point.
>>16270964>There's a new trend among EDS space fans where they're moon over Mars.>newThis is the continuation of SLS fanboyism now that Starship exists.
>>16271008"Kind of" abbreviated "kindve"?
>>16271007I could care less if its wrong.
>>16271014Assuming your ESL, but yeah. You have lot's to learn
>>16271018Icy! Thank's
>>16271016
>>16270911yeah but [math]2 \mathbb{N} > \mathbb{N}[/math] isn't a mathematically valid statement
>>16271021yes, but "larger by a scalar factor" isN = 2 x NnotN > 2 x Nwhich would be "larger than a scalar factor"
>>162710216 is larger than 3 by a factor of 26 = 2 * 3
>>16271027well then, if sets worked exactly the same way as individual real numbers did then you might have a point
Kinda.
>>16271035Assuming your ESL. You have lot's too learn
Clear's birthday. Please drop by and say something nice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0n-slSf-xA
>>16271043シネクソアマ
https://x.com/s2a_systems/status/1809499085386268983Long March 6A upper stage debris field
>>16271043She's gorgeous, beautiful girl
>>16269349>All falied rockets take out a neighborhood in TelavivBased
Need rocket launch
best I can do is a thread launch>>16271105>>16271105>>16271105>>16271105>>16271105
>>16271100Drive to a nearby Hobby Lobby and buy some
>>16270099Hey at least the CGI vaporwave had gotten prettier>fellow oldfag
>>16270985if he didn't want to get called a gypsy maybe he shouldn't be scamming people?
