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>>16291261
The hell are they gonna do with this thing now?
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How much did you lose, anons?
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>Wow!! Next-Generation Starship Spotted at Starbase! - SpaceX Weekly #124
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Nope, not gettin' out of this chair.
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do they use these in rockets?
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>>16291276
I still have a helium voice
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>>16291261
Hey, maybe one day we'll see him again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCibUnkbTFs
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>>16291279
where are the block 2 fan renders
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Watch them completely pass over Mark and run someone nobody likes

We could live in a timeline of competing grandiose space promises, a new space race.
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>>16291309
I think it will be mark.
>white
>midwestern
>astronaut
>no big closet skeletons
>due to Az rules he can just assign some other D to his senate seat
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>>16291261
Cancelled! And for good reason
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>>16291309
Mark Kelly sucks.
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>>16291318
explain
no really I'm curious I'm not too familiar with him
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>>16291261
AYO THEY DID MY NIGGA BIG JIM WRONG
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>>16291317
because of cost over-run
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>>16291315
>no big closet skeletons
Other than the fact that he was installed in office by John McCain's old political machine and is about as corrupt as an oldspace's contractor's fantasy?
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>>16291309
Not diverse and inclusive enough. Come one man, you should know your party by now.
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>>16291339
corrupt doesn't mean anything anymore.
The US is the least corrupt nation on earth, or thereabouts, our corruption is flowers and rainbows compared to other countries.
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>>16291268
where is the propellant stored?
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>>16291272
tear it apart for parts for projects that aren't 140% over budget and years behind schedule
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>>16291350
is it still propellant in a static fire when nothing is being propelled?
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>>16291348
snorting T-stoff sure does get the wacky aeronautical design juices flowing eh
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>>16291350
You know where it's stored
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>>16291289
I had one of these when I was a kid. I can get the ball bearing to the center every time.
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>>16291353
how come JWST and Europa Clipper and MSR didn't succumb to the 140% criterion.
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>>16291348
new air force one just dropped
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>>16291350
That building with the blue door to the right. Within the spheres is pressurized nitrogen which is used to spin up the engine.
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>>16291371
Did we cancel on the Euros again? Because that would be funny
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Imagine the shitstorm if IFT 6 got an endorsement livery
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they keep repairing the damned station
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>>16291373
lmao, not sure that would be a good idea
spacex still has a factory in LA and getting the company involved in politics so overtly isn't good
what musk says on his personal account and personal political opinions are different than what the companies are doing (even if some far left people think this isn't the case, it is still)
the overton window on that is probably changing so in the near future people aren't going to lose their shit even if people have political opinions
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>>16291301
Fine, I'll do it myself
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where is the pressurized nitrogen stored?
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coast phase
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>>16291416
deorbited
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after application of bengay cream
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>>16291420
Sir, this is not /kspg/
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>>16291423
that looks like mine where did you get that
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>>16291350
In the ballasts.
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Starliner rideshare system (ISS deorbit vehicle shown because starliner renders are classified)
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>>16291425
From your hard drive
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The Vintage Space YouTube channel is back. Didn't bother to watch the "where have I been?" video because I got terribly bored with her content before she took a break but I know some others here like the channel.
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>>16291448
this is the chick with the parafoil gemini tat right
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>>16291434
anons how do I delete a post

I keep getting phone calls that hang up when I answer. Someone left me an envelope with pictures of me from my bushes.
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>>16291448
I wonder how many mental illnesses she has
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>>16291460
its over
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>>16291334
Run of the mill, milquetoast democrat.
Don't like his social or fiscal policies.
Sorry for his wife, but also don't like his gun policies.
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>>16291463
All of them.
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>>16291460
Havin' conversations with your car alarm
When you come out, your shit is gone
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Based true thread report the other for spam
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CujjUfE504
>Where Will Astronauts Go After The ISS Is Destroyed?
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>EndWokeness
yikes...
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>>16291487
So true xista
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*sips* in lawn chair
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>>16291491
I think you meant shits
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>>16291485
They will be space-homeless
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>>16291485
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft_cemetery
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>>16291494
The important question is will Taco Bell give us another chance at free tacos?
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>>16291485
The ISS was created to give the Shuttle some place to go

Gateway is being created to give Orion some place to go
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>>16291434
starship is the biggest spacecraft we've ever built but its still so tiny
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>>16291485
To hell
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>>16291495
If they don't they're faggots.
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>>16291497
If rednecks can assemble triple wide mobile homes, I'm sure SpaceX can figure out how to connect a bunch of Starships together if they want.
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>>16291497
It's wider than the a380 and wider than the largest air hull ever flown

I don't know why airplanes stopped getting bigger. But with rockets it seems like we'd want the biggest cargo hold that was buildable. Space is unique in that it's easier to deliver habitats than build them in pieces.
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>>16291448
>that haircut
I don't think she's actually 'back'. Plus she's nothing compared to my mom
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ACK!

https://x.com/Pad33space/status/1815083382923313456
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>>16291519
hnnng
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>>16291517
Presumably there's a rocket equation for airplanes, but instead of delta-v, it's profit.
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>>16291525
is that the EM drive
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It is an honor to be with you all, here at the spacex national convention

As a starship super delegate, I cast my vote for this crew window design
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>>16291517
>I don't know why airplanes stopped getting bigger.
People prefer to fly from their starting airport direct to their destination if possible, and it's very hard to fill a plane with as many seats as an A380 or Boeing 747, and four-engine jets are expensive to operate. You get better seat-mileage out of twins flying direct flights, and airlines are sensitive to fuel prices.
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does anyone here play with SDRs, antennas and stuff? I'm planning on doing so and I wonder if anyone here cares about that shit.
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Reminder ORIVN will be the harbinger of our future in the wider universe, the first manned trip to Proxima Centauri will have astronauts riding in ORIVN for a flag and footprint style mission, we wouldn't want to leave behind infrastructure or anything haha
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>>16291548
used to a little but it was mostly my friends doing the engineering legwork. Please post results.
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>>16291548
redundant with starlink lmao
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>>16291553
>why would you ever make a sandwich yourself when you could go to the deli instead
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>>16291557
>food analogy
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>>16291558
sorry
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it does look comfy as hell in there
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>>16291553
>redundant with starlink
??? do you even know what I'm talking about?

>>16291552
nah, I don't like blogging.
I'll try to catch signals from sats (I see some pass in the sky at like 10PM) but I don't have enough knowledge (electronics, antennas) to do anything of value myself so I have to use whatever guide I can find online. I've found a few of these guides. one of them uses Gpredict and other Linux software to check for nearby sats.
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>>16291548
Covered them briefly this spring but I've got a graduate course in them coming up next year

It was interesting as hell learning how that worked while there was radio news (lander on its side needing to use its low gain antennas, SpaceX proposing OFDM for sat constellations)
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starliner status?
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>>16291590
stranded
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>>16291590
taken by the kraken
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>>16291590
it's fine
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>>16291592
the good kind of stranded or the bad kind
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>>16291588
what do you do? EE? CE?
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>>16291600
CS, but I'm basically satcom IT and you have to know the engineering/physics side too
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>>16291590
Cease your inquiries, they are not stranded, the vehicle is perfectly operational.
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KELLY FOR VP
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>>16291614
Astronaut-politician is a dishonorable career path. I will not be voting for baldy with russia derangement syndrome who will cancel all human feats in NASA to focus on climate science
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>>16291342
it's never too late to identify as a woman, maybe even as a black woman
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>>16291616
He also suffers from Musk Derangement Syndrome as well.
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>>16291360
too big to fail, would take down our (old space) economy
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>>16291460
You're going to get a special delivery very soon.
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>>16291630
fantastic movie
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>>16291531
was
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>>16291616
it's really funny watching retards squabble over which candidate is pro or anti-russia.
TZD is a bipartisan issue, either one will likely continue supporting yooks.
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>>16291622
is he a jew or just completely delusional
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>>16291636
Who cares you fucking retard NOT SPACEFLIGHT GO BACK TO FUCKING >>>/pol/ DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING INVOLVING ELECTIONS NEEDS TO FUCK OFF
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>>16291639
space is trump country
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why is this thread full of boomers?

>>16291602
ah, nice. wish you good luck, anon.
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Imagine your graphic design department absolutely COOKING, only for your project leads to go and blow the budget and get the whole program cancelled
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>>16291665
and having an equally fuck ugly logo to go with it
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>>16291665
What is the best space logo of all time because that's not it
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Space BELONGS to the United States of America
The manifest destiny of America is spread to the borders of the solar system and beyond
God bless America
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does anyone know if all spacecraft cabins are completely illuminated in flight? I've been looking for space shuttle cabin pictures with softer lighting, it's understandable if not keeping the cabin fully lit poses some safety problems but it looks a little better with shadows imo
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>>16291673
This
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btw, here's some random guide on how to get a RTL-SDR to decode images from NOAA sats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8fhEi3FuA4
(the guy speaks like a retard, and you don't really need to change the URLs in gpredict)
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The Moon belongs to America. Time to start staking claims
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>>16291614
>>16291622

Oh no you don't you fag aren't fagging up this thread again.
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>>16291548
Read this recently
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.09717
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>>16291708
What was Nautilus' centrifuge diameter? No way they could produce enough gravity to offset bone loss. Maybe enough to make working with shit easier.
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>>16291588
>>>/diy/ham/
While not space program specific, the radio nerds there are generally welcoming.
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>>16291708
What are the most realistic options for spin gravity stations/habiitats, or ships?
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>>16291360
congress allocated more funding
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God DAMN Elon put all his eggs in one basket. Genuinely worried for the future
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>>16291741
Focusing on chemical is putting all eggs in one basket
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>>16291741
the eggs are measured?
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>>16291742
good thing starlink uses hall effect thrusters
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>>16291744
still chemical
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>>16291709
wow, that's fucking awesome! (and scary, but mostly awesome)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3NWg_Yzag
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>>16291734
That bigelow inflatable hab mounted on bearings with a motor
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>>16291734
gemini capsule tethered to an agena spacecraft
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>>16291746
no it's not
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>>16291530
>>16291540
Planes are getting bigger, just not quite in the way you think. Take a look at the A320neo family orders versus the original A320 family, almost no airline ordered the A319neo, but a ton of orders for the 320neo, and the most for the 321neo. The 747 and A380 were decades ahead of their time, yes part of their downfall is that people valued direct flights over indirect hub/spoke connections, but now even those indirect flights are getting busier, and airlines like AA and United have started up-gauging their fleets, United especially moving from the 787-8 to the larger 787-10
https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2024/American-Airlines-places-orders-for-Airbus-Boeing-and-Embraer-aircraft-FLT-03/default.aspx
>As part of the Boeing order, American has upgauged 30 existing 737 MAX 8 orders to 737 MAX 10 aircraft.
>American is focused on bringing larger, dual-class regional aircraft into its fleet, which will continue to drive connectivity from smaller markets to the rest of the airline’s global network. The airline expects to retire all of its 50-seat single-class regional jets by the end of the decade and will continue to serve small and medium-size markets with larger regional jets.
https://apnews.com/article/united-airlines-orders-boeing-airbus-airplane-b650ef0da3ba9af0a8f2f9ec4fdc904f
>The airplanes will be larger than those United is replacing. The Chicago-based company said that in 2019 it averaged 104 seats per North American departure. By 2027, United anticipates the figure climbing more than 40% to more than 145 seats.

And while the A380 may be out of production, airlines that kept theirs are doing it for the long-haul, BA announced that they're overhauling their A380 fleet which means they'll be flying for another good 20 years, and who knows, by then routes might be so crowded that Airbus has to bring it back into production, or develop a successor.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/british-airways-retrofitting-a380-new-cabins/
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aren't most airports unprepared for large aircraft anyway? I mean, from what I've heard, they required extended landing strip, and probably hardened ones as well, because large planes can destroy them...
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>>16291791
Looks like a BBC
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>>16291788
Unprepared for large aircraft like the A380? Yeah, that requires special gates, however every airline up-gauging their long-haul fleet to either the 777X or A350-1000 won't be an issue because they're still in the same ICAO gate size category (Code E), in fact, any gate that can fit a 787-8 (typically 242 passengers) can fit a 777X-9 (typically 395 passengers). Same goes for a narrow-body, a gate made for a 737-700 (128 passengers 2-class, Code C) will fit an A321neo (206 passengers 2-class).
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>>16291811
Do any of these go above the Karman line? No? I think you know what is and isnt spaceflight.
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Why is China slacking on launches this year?
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>>16291818
Why is US slacking on launches this week?
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Notice how the Muskrat never answered me.
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>>16291791
I remember it previously being a single helium tank, maybe they need a second for redundancy
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>>16291846
Elon Musk is unimpeachable. There is no point arguing otherwise.
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>>16291635
>muh New Khazaria is in danger!
Why don't you go fight them on the frontlines then, Seth?
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>>16291672
apollo 17 ofcourse
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What did he mean by this?
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>>16291858
Shut up faggot scum not spaceflight
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>>16291859
The first Trump presidency gave us the Space Force. A second one should be better still.
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>>16291858
Patriot Elon hasfinally been activated! How cool is that?
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>>16291858
Heck yeah!
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>>16291859
You seem really defensive! Biden lost hahaha I know this is hard for you
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BO "landing platform vessel" is apparently finished
https://x.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1815130402975358980

Some people might want to use this thread instead
>>16291209
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>>16291592
They are stranded chud, they just can't come home right now
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>>16291899
I saw their landing leg demonstration. They looked so small. And small rockets land rough. I'm not sure if it will tip over.
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>>16291899
>French shipyard
Why are they not making it in America?
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>>16291496
What is even the point of zero G space stations
>well we can study what happens to a thing in zero G
The goal should be to never even be in zero G
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>>16291899
I remember they sent the ship from a couple yrs ago named after Jeff's mom to the scrapyards. Is this one named after her?
https://gcaptain.com/blue-origins-rocket-landing-ship-named-after-jeff-bezos-mom-sent-to-scrapyard/
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>>16291915
No idea.
I don't know how much SpaceX modified their barges themselves vs hiring people to do it, but clearly that's one of the differences between them and BO

>>16291917
Nah, it's literally named "Landing Platform Vessel 1"
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>>16291309
Too bald
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>>16291408
Balls
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>>16291930
I don't know who he is, and honestly at first I thought it was Tory
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>>16291791
Why can't they make that tank into a donut and place it on the bottom?
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do starbase construction crews work on weekends? it took less than 5 days for the stacking of the 3rd of 9 sections. 15th august for the completion of the basic structure still on the cards
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>Elon predicting Trump will win
>Elon in charge of predictions
I'm trying to keep it together but I think it's over
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Couple reports that ABL's second RS1 shat itself on launch pad during static fire or its preparation.
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>>16291967
kek
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>>16291791
since we decided that one header tank is too simple.
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We’re gonna launch so much, you may even get tired of launching
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Curiosity rolled over some rocks and accidentally crushed them, revealing elemental sulfur which is very rare on Terra. Could be an insight into geological activity on Mars. Elemental sulfur only really forms on Terra in active hot springs.
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>>16292049
>
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>>16292049
The wheel probably took a lot of damage too.
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>>16292051
Apologies, I came from Plebbit.
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>>16292061
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>>16292061
TND
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>>16292061
Maybe morale would go up if they could accomplish space stuff instead of dumping resources into the trash pit that is the subject of the other /sfg/.
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https://spacenews.com/senate-appropriators-say-spending-bill-includes-nasa-increase/
>“We have increased funding for NASA,” she said, but did not discuss specifics about the bill, which the committee has yet to release. NASA requested nearly $25.4 billion for fiscal year 2025 after receiving $24.875 billion in 2024. She didn’t say what the increase would be with respect to.
>She did not discuss any specific programs, but Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), ranking member of the CJS subcommittee and the other co-chair of the delegation, mentioned Artemis. “I would emphasize that in last year’s appropriations bill and in this year’s appropriations bill, it’s been a goal of mine and others to make sure that Artemis is protected and that our plans to be on the moon are advanced,” he said.

have to keep Artemis alive no matter what
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>>16292062
The problem is SLS, orion and gateway. If those 3 things weren't eating so much of the budget then nasa would actually be able to do all the things it wants. But the senate wants it's pork.
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>>16292071
there are structural problems in NASA itself
why did a moon lander have a budget of 250 mil? why did it go over budget?
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>>16291899
no we're not using your gay thread, fuck off.
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>>16292049
It should be a wakeup call for rover design. Millions of dollars for drills and spectrometers, and the single most interesting discovery came from accidentally crunching a rock under their tires.

Mars Bulldozer now!
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>>16292061
>>16292062
SLS delenda est
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>>16291348
aircraft design peaked in the 1960s
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>>16292062
>dump billions and billsions into dead-end bullshit
>a bunch of random people on youtube analyze the programs with data from publicly available sources and the result is clearly that it is a gigantiic boondoggle, only able to subsidize ULA and its suppliers while delivering minimal mass-to-LEO
>yeah well morale is kinda low, everyything takes too long and is so expensive
No shit Sherlock.
If only there was a vehicle that could solve all this, wiith high launch cadence and huge mass to LEO.

They are worried about 16 superheavy launches to fuel a mission to the moon? Once that thing flies, this will take a few weeks max.
They still think 'two launches a year', or 'one launch a month'.
They need to start thinking 'one launch a day'.
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>>16292082
We need to be sending rovers to every moon in the solar system and analysing their surface composition. Why aren't we doing this right now? Stop spending billions making Europeans bomb eachother and start cooperating globally to explore our Sol!
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>>16292062
>most beloved federal agency
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AVonYwZ5Lpg
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>>16292064
I agree, but what about NASA?
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>>16292066
>nasa engineer working
Come on, man
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>>16292072
Well, its cause viper was conceived before the current commercial push at nasa. Giffin, which viper was supposed to go on, was clps and didn't go over budget. Viper was old space and griffin is new space. It's kinda emblematic of the struggle between the two sides of nasa.
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Will we ever terraform venus?
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>>16292061
Maybe morale would go up if they could accomplish space stuff instead of dumping resources into the trash pit that is MSR
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>>16292100
no
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>>16292088
It’s actually very important that “europeans” continue to bomb eachother. I hope we can find room for both bombs and rovers in the budget.
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What's the most plausible alternative to NASA? Scrap the whole organization. How do you fund and organize the realization of America's space programs?
Points are awarded for effectiveness and plausibility.
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>>16292062
>biden-harris voter
>distressed
As to be expected
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>>16292088
Budget is the limiting factor. We can't shoot billions of dollars into space and have nothing but "scientific discoveries" coming back. That equation changes if a wacky billionaire decides to throw his fortune into the effort, and fortunately Elon is actually smart enough to throw his fortune into smaller goals that will reduce the cost (cheap reusable heavy lift) and turn a profit (Starlink) so that he's not just bankrupting himself for soil samples.
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>>16292086
>Horten Ho 229
>60s
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>>16292104
>It’s actually very important that “europeans” continue to bomb eachother
why
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>>16292049
>Terra
You exist in the real world
You will never live in some wild scifi future
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>>16292100
The problem with venus is that unlike mars you can't live on it until it's pretty much fully terraformed. It does need less maintenance once terraformed however so it does have that going for it. I don't see venus being terraformed until we all live in a dyson sphere with octillions of GDP to throw at the problem, but by then venus would only serve as an interesting wildlife reserve.
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elon is so hopelessly reckless, we are about to lose the only hope for colonization bc he decided to give into his political bs
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>>16292107
I wouldn't get rid of nasa entirely. I'd just have the organization being a bunch of accountants dealing out money through competitive contracts like clps, cots and ccs.
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>>16292100
One hurdle I’ve heard about venus is that unlike mars which is dead and earth which has regular tectonic activity, venus does nothing for a few hundred million years then overturns its entire crust with volcanoes.
Not a problem on human timescales or even hypothetical scifi time scales, but it does make it a pretty crappy place to put a backup for the flame of consciousness.
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>>16292107
probably similar to how grants are funded for academic research currently. the most interesting and cost effective proposals are funded, no mass autism constraints, no one off highly specialised tooling or instruments (unless they are a pathfinder). Missions are launched on commercial fully reusable launch vehicles at costs in the same ballpark as starship is projected to be, basically to the lowest bidder
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>>16292119
>does nothing for a few hundred million years then overturns its entire crust with volcanoes.
The reason for this is because of it's high surface temperature. Fix that and venus might develop tectonics like earth.
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You all know the drill. 'Automated spambot'
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Anyone else watched this?
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>>16292069
>We have increased funding for NASA
Have they even adjusted for inflation?
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>>16292113
>You will never live in some wild scifi future
You'll be surprised to hear about Starlink, Starship and Neuralink!
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>>16292119
In even a few million years if our civilization continues developing at its current pace, something like that would be a non issue.
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>>16292090
lel
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>>16292097
total oldspace death
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>>16292062
>the demoralizing aspects of Artemis includes Starship
Opinion completely and utterly disregarded
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>>16292088
>russians
>europeans
honestly if we just quickly resolved the situation by giving ukraine more aid this wouldn't really be an issue.
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>>16292109
>Budget is the limiting factor. We can't shoot billions of dollars into space and have nothing but "scientific discoveries" coming back.
you are wrong, that is precisely what NASA is about and that is precisely what NASA does all the time
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>>16292115
this is necessary
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>>16292133
no
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>>16292115
>we are about to lose the only hope for colonization bc he decided to give into his political bs
no
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Why are the communists triggered by this comment so much? I dont get it
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>>16292186
>NO YOU NEED TO FIX EVERY LITTLE SINGLE ISSUE ON EARTH FIRST YOU CAPITALIST PIG DOG!
That's why. Crabs in Buckets.
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>>16292119
(We think) Venus does that because its crust is so hot it's too malleable to support plate tectonics. Lack of plate tectonics allows heat from radioactive decay to build up until a catastrophic mega eruption floods a huge portion of the surface. Cooling Venus' surface will likewise cool the crust & increase its brittleness. Toss in some active engineering, like drilling boreholes to drop water into to quench the deeper rock layers, and using nukes to chop the crust into "plates", and it may be possible to start plate tectonics there.
If it isn't, we can still break the catastrophic resurfacing cycle by more manually removing heat, which would be done via deep boreholes and water heat transport to the surface. Hundreds of millions of years between events is a lot of time to build.
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>>16292111
someone has to kill europeans and, hand grenade attacks notwithstanding, the africans and muslims don't have sufficiently advanced weaponry
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>>16292133
>Who will control the skies?
Elon
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>>16292100
I can terraform uranus
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>>16292208
No you can't.
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>>16292214
bend over and I'll show you
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>>16292133
Astra lol. Atleast they are sacrificing half their arms to save themselves. I think their procedural failure combined with rapid capital expenditure to scale up fucked them up real bad.
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>A Second Tower Quickly Rises At Starbase | Starbase Update
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>>16292219
Peter Beck was a total chad in this
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>>16292226
He bitches and moans about SpaceX tho. So he's just hiding his inner pussy here
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>>16292197
Just open a portal on the surface of Venus with the other end on Mars and you can terraform both planets at the same time.
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>>16292186
>>16292191
its even simpler then that. They are fifth column subversive trash that simply hates their own country and wants nothing but it to fail. If chinks announced that they would be deepthroating all over it

Not letting vatnik union get demolished back in ww2 and subsequent simping/apologizing/ignoring for the red plague and its useful idiots has been a disaster for humanity
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>>16292235
go back to the psych ward, retard
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Most tweets ever in a day from Musk. I wonder what about SpaceX got him so excited. Must be launch day soon.
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>>16292232
Nope. Venus would still have way too much atmosphere and even if you could get plants on mars then you'd be left with an entirely oxygen atmosphere. We here should know why thats bad.
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So no return till august surely but will they slip another month too?
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>>16292235
what am I looking at?
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>>16292242
You can make bets on Polymarket for how many tweets Elon makes. Seems like he could game the fuck out of that for fun.
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>>16292242
how tf is he xeeting that much? reading/liking 100s of posts, making 50-100 regularly himself... that's probably at least 2-4h daily shitposting
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>>16292275
Scientists in Italy made a model on a specific type of supernova remnants to explain their formation with the model showing similar results to what our telescopes are showing us, specifically on IC 443, from the paper
>Fig. 4. Map of the density-weighted average electronic temperature integrated along the LoS at 8400 yr.
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>>16292293
shitposts during breaks, when taking a shit, between phone calls etc
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in 2h 10min
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>>16291779
xenon/argon are chemicals
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>>16292309
can we expect anything about space?
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>>16292322
no but you can expect a lot about drugs and addictions
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>>16292322
No.
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>>16292322
probably nothing new, but who knows
if I had to guess they will probably talk about DEI, woke, meritocracy etc
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>>16292322
I don't think Elon has too much interest in lobster self help babble, they might talk a bit about Canada being a trash fire and then hopefully space.
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>>16292328
lobsters are psychic
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>>16292331
that was the premise of that one popular scifi series
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>>16292069
Should be $30 billion so $5 billion can go to NASA planetary/solar system/heliophysics science
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>>16292293
>>16292242
don't forget his alt which is much more active lately, dude is a tweeting machine that not even Trump can match
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>>16292337
what are elon's alts? Does he talk about space on them?
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>>16292328
Peterson is going to get Musk to go on an all steak diet.
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>>16292342
>what are elon's alts?
he has a few
>Does he talk about space on them?
sometimes for some accounts; no for most other accounts (5 total accounts including main)
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>>16292342
AD, cybergamer
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>>16292322
Its going to be on spaces
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>>16292342
The one where he reposts Krystal porn
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>>16292334
Might not be possible in the current political climate but after having grown in weird ways over the years since their foundings, the FAA, NOAA, and NASA need to have their missions realigned to be compatible with current needs while minimizing conflict between agencies.
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module 4 is at the launch site
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https://youtu.be/yonYf6zoR0Y
Another great video from Eager Space!
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>>16292352
was listening to nsf yesterday or the day before and they all agreed that the tower will be fully stacked before IFT-5 launches
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>>16292354
My question got in!
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https://x.com/eager_space/status/1815437970843087066

NASA exceptionalism is dying. Commercial companies are succeeding where NASA is failing.
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>>16292359
Blame falls on
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>>16292360
Contracts, incentives, politics.
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>>16292309
>>16292322
Can't wait to hear how we need to go to war with Iran for our greatest ally.
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>>16292362
Congress
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>>16292359
Does this stupid spx fag know commercial companies exist because NASA gives them contracts right? And if theses companies are doing alright means NASA is doing a good job
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>>16292352
oh shit wrong link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
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>>16292186
But this guy told he would take us to mars in a couple of years, why does he want NASA to do it instead?
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>>16292358
may I ask, what was your question?
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How will this fuck NASA and space industry in the coming years? The interest rate alone consumes good chunk of all US tax.
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>>16292384
It already has, input inflation has made all these pork contracts go from eventually limping across the finish line, to doomed to never finish.
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>>16292384
its either AI giving massive productivity boost and growing out of the debt or default at some point in the future
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>>16292384
They are goiing to poop amd shit and die, in that order. Any questiions?
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>>16291791
so much added cost and complexity when 4 falcon 9 launches would do the same. starship will be an even bigger piece of shit than the shittle
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>>16292387
>growing out of the debt
kek thats a good one
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>>16292384
If you want to see where this ends up just look at japan recently. They've been running 0% interest rates for years and now suddenly inflation hit and now they terrified of raising interest rates for fear of exploding their debt payments. There comes a point where you gotta choose to either let your debt blow up or inflate it away.
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>>16292384
>US defaults
>worst economic recession ever is the last straw
>civil war over it and all the other dumb shit like muh red and muh blue
>US balkanizes
>NASA ceases to exist
>president Greg 'Hot Wheels' Abbott appoint Elon Musk as minister of industry
>the New Texas Republic is the new leader in space
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when starship will be human rated?
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>>16292402
As long as I get a bj from two hot chicks, i'll vote for this
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>>16292400
the only good option is to burn down the federal reserve (not federal, no reserves), abolish debt based fiat "money" and replace ot with a .gov issued currency, backed by something real.
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>>16292404
After Musk braps into Biden's mouth
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>>16292402
>Texas Republic
>Elon space minister
>Unrestricted testing and launching
>Capital and people in flow from all space heads world over into Texas
>All industry dedicated to space rush
>Texas flag on Martian soil

Stop entertaining such silly dreams
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>>16292375
Wealthy people prefer spending other people's money. It's part of the reason why they remain wealthy.
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>>16292404
6 years from now
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>>16292408
You literally cannot go into default if you print your own currency
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>>16292419
you also dont have to pay 3/4th of your tax revenue to private bankers
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>>16292419
yes but you might lose your status as the worldwide reserve currency and after printing enough you get hyperinflation
maybe you don't default, the result might still be largely the same
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>>16292413
so that's why Martians had Texan accents in the historical documents (Expanse)
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The rocks produce breathing gas

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-oxygen-discovered-coming-from-mineral-deposits-on-deep-seafloor/

>Now researchers have discovered that these valuable nodules do something remarkable: they produce oxygen and do so without sunlight.
>The idea that some of the gas may come from these inanimate minerals and be produced in total darkness “really strongly goes against what we traditionally think of as where oxygen is made and how it's made,” says Jeffrey Marlow, a microbiologist at Boston University and a co-author of the study, which was published on Monday in Nature Geoscience.

>Evidence of dark oxygen production at the abyssal seafloor
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-024-01480-8
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>>16292412
Isnt it the other way around?
>>16292451
Not spaceflight kill yourself
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>>16292454
>can't see how this could possibly be related to spaceflight and space colonization and space exploration and it's implications

small minded
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>>16292169
>quickly resolved the situation by giving ukraine more aid this wouldn't really be an issue.
I really can't tell if this is a joke or not.
I thought this delusion was mostly on /k/
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>>16292457
Dilate your neovagina troon
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>>16292384
>us debt meme
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>>16292309
https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1815427698703090085

live now but no sounds
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>>16292463
What the fuck does that mean
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>>16292470
ask your mom
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>>16292470
lmao
its an insult to imply you are transsexual and need to use a dilator (basically a dildo) to keep your surgery constructed "vagina" from clossing/healing
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>>16292469
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815460900624818311
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>>16292470
Nevermind you just need to go back to >>>/reddit/
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>>16292479
You need to go back to >>>/pol/
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>>16292470
>>16292473
to be clear I think the article was interesting and has implications for other planets than earth, maybe it has some tech applications
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>>16292482
And you need to follow your own advice. I use /sci/ exclusively for /sfg/ and have done so for years now. If anyone should be saying that its fucking me.
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>>16292484
At the very least if we now discover a planet with oxygen atmosphere we can't immediately assume we've found life
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This is exciting I love jordan peterson and israel. Spaceflight!
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>>16292489
>>16292482
Samefag
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>>16292486
imo life requires an active planet that shifting techtonics, hot inner core and outer colder water and then mixing of the two which creates a place where chemicals soup mixes and then is allowed to stablize with repeated and continous process. Thats how life on earth got started.
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>>16292476
Peterson trying to give some psychobabble input on how to align LLMs. Looks very promising.
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>>16292331
that's insane
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>>16292360
NASA, congress, cost plus, old space, DEI
you can just list your least favorite things and they're to blame
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>>16292494
or a rogg with some frozen cells splashed down into the ocean.
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i don't remember /sfg/ being nearly this bad in 2020
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>>16292514
it wasn't, this is a new low
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>>16292514
>Wow SpaceX is miles ahead of everyone else this should just be a SpaceX Musk general
>monkey's paw curls
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>>16292491
I love israel, there's no hidden agenda, fren
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>>16292514
Donald Trump was president in 2020, life was good. Space was going smoothly
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>>16292514
It was absolutely worse, multiple threads were nuked by jannies
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>>16292514
neo-election tourists ruin everything. news at 11
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>>16292538
because of that anti-anime fag throwing a tantrum anytime anime was posted as a reaction image, the state of /sfg/ now is the result of all his meltys, a dead general.
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>>16292546
Every time, like summoning a demon.
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>>16292460
>i am delusional about the war, therefore everyone else must be as well.
as it turns out when you have to zoom in to a 20x20 meter map in order to see a change in frontline, and russian depots start running empty, that's generally not the sign of a succesful war.

none of that matters to you of course, you're a contrarian, your opinion is literally
>normalfags say this, i do opposite.
if normies told you to support russia, you'd support ukraine.
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>>16292404
2 options:
>After 100 successful flights in a row
>musk himself joyrides ft12
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>>16292546
False flag
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>>16292546
/sfg/ isnt dead you fucking speccy bowl haired cunt we are still by far the most active general on /sci/ theres just no news RIGHT NOW and especially with F9 out of service of course its going to be less fucking active. Not to mention /pol/ happenings sucking up anons attention for a bit. They will come back WHEN THERE IS ANYTHING SPACE RELATED TO DISCUSS
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>>16292546
agree
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>>16292558
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>>16292558
>Website originally founded with only the topic of anime in mind ripping the codebase of a japanese imageboard
>All other boards are containment for non anime discussion to less interrupt anime discussion and came after the original anime board

This is like saying the US was founded by blacks or some shit. No the founding fathers made the country based off western enlightenment values and moot made 4chan for anime discussion. Cope if you must, and you will.
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>>16292049
>crushed reptilian eggs
They won't be happy about this
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>>16292384
"Eating 76% of all income taxes collected"
They're making it sound like 76% of all collected tax is going into debt payments. It's bad, but it's not THAT bad:
The US' tax collection for FY2025 is going to be approximately $5.5 trillion.
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still mad
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>>16292558
>troon copes and seethes about the fact that he's on an anime website.
cute, but in the end, nobody's going to ban me for posting anime, but you might get banned for having a melty because someone posted it.
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>>16292558
kek another melty lmaooo
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>>16292575
That includes property tax/sales tax/tariffs/etc. Income tax is real tax as thats the real economy value.
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>>16292578
What unites weebs, trannies, vegans etc. is that they must make absolutely sure that everyone else knows about their obsession, and integrate their obsession into everything they do.
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>>16292565
Fun fact about the dodgers: they are one of only two teams in the MLB to be extremely lame and gay.
>>16292534
Was Artemis already “too far in” to cancel? I’ve heard people claim Biden could have axed it but chose to keep it online. I’m not sure what the truth of the matter is. Kind of glad we are still rolling with it but lol it would have been nice if he killed it (because 99% of the program is bloat. Although it would have meant no HLS Moonship and no americans going back to the moon, at least certainly not before China)
>>16291677
Most of the time it’s ‘what you see is what you get’. Most modern spacecrafts utilize running lights, similar to how the ISS is illuminated although not as bright—with most sunlight supplied via natural sunlight. Ancillary direct lights are usually thrown in to illuminate control panels/workspace areas. Photography is craft-dependent and you need to set up your camera differently depending on whether or not you are photographing the ISS/tiangong interior or the dragon/soyuz/starliner/orion/shenzhou interior
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>>16292588
Biden - Nelson - SLS

no chance lol
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I like rockets. rockets are pretty cool I think.
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>>16292588
Even if Artemis was scrapped and SpaceX never got money for HLS, they would have developed moon landing as a test bed for their mars ambitions. The speed may have been slower but it would probably have been a close race with China anyways.
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>>16292599
ngmi
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>>16292577
So no spacesuit?
Moon cancelled?
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>>16292602
No new ISS suit
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>>16292584
Property taxes are real tax as well.
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>>16292603
No new ISS either
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>>16292599
Who?
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>>16292599
THIS *claps* IS *claps* WHY *claps* WE *claps* TEST *claps*
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>>16292607
Don’t worry about it lol none of these companies are relevant
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>>16292604
Thats just theft
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>>16292476

Peterson asking about SpaceX soon, talking through each company
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>>16292608
I always hear this in my mind in the current dem nominee's voice, ending with a cackling laugh.
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>>16292294
damn and I thought it was a slow motion picture of a nuclear explosion
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>>16292599
It SN10'd itself
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>>16292364
this so much this
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>>16292621
It's definitely a nuclear explosion though
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>>16292626

Talking of astronomy has JWST discovered anything new?
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>>16292607
These guys
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>>16292629
ahh thanks a photo of random rocket #38392049283 that answers it
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>>16292627
no
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>>16292629
Kinda looks like an erect penis, the way they have it mounted like that.
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Jordan peterson dream come true, meeting musk. A meeting of the minds. you watching?
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>>16292640
whether you're ironic or not, just fuck off
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>>16292640
No because every other word that comes out of their mouths are incomprehensible to me. I don’t think they are pseuds, I just think the two of them share that certain kind of hoe-scaring autism
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talking about spacex asylum lawfare now
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>>16292599
>irrecoverable damage
Y I K E S
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>>16292643
lighten up
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>>16292384
they will just print more money lmao. they'll "pay" down the debt and the material value of the debt will go down at the same time. it isn't real
>>16292468
it's the best midwit detector
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>>16291967
Nah, it's just delayed from 4 years ago, like a bunch of other predictions.
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>>16292652
You realize that printing money merely moves the debt to American people who are inturn responsible for paying taxes right?
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>>16292100
Even if we could trraform Venus there is no way to fix it's extremely slow rotation speed. A day-night cycle on Venus takes 116 earth days. What kind of life survives though 58-day night?
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>>16292100
>>16292655
Multiple nukes detonated at the core
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>>16292122
Need to add enough water to get some oceans going, because the hydrated minerals formed in oceanic crust are vital for getting plate tectonics going.
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>>16292654
>he doesn't know
>>16292655
a string of thousands of satellites using sunlight to add inertia would only take like 300 years to get to a 24 hour day. I lost my diagram, maybe someone here has it
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>>16292644
Musk is known to be somewhat technically illiterate despite always implying he's some kind of genius
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>>16292384
who do we owe money to anyway?
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>>16292408
oy vey we gotta shut this anon down before he shuts us down!
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>>16292655
Norwegian?
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Yalking about the Mars venture with Jordan Peterson right now, GET IN HERE!
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>>16292674
peterson doesn't seem to give a shit about that at all
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>>16292669
Maybe you're not smurt
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>>16292679
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>>16292680
Why done we use crude oil for deep space rockets? because of some gay environmental law
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>>16292682
less energy dense
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>>16292673
kek
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>>16292673
Hahah
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>>16292673
humorous
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>we're still using "fuel" for space ships instead of folding space to instantly transport anywhere in the universe
the aliens are laughing at us, the cosmic joke
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https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1815485052505170419
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>>16292699
>takes out piece of a4 paper
>folds paper in half
>penetrated folded paper with pen
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>>16292699
They are laughing at me because I'm fat and in my underpants. I am a fat fool
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>>16292702
Ummm kino alert. You also have to say a cheesy one-liner as you do it
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>>16292200
>this is your mind on semitism
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>>16292700
enjoying watching Elon's head pitch up and down.
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>>16292700
I only watched a bit of it, but he seems to be talking about cloning a self identity from the current time and then doing something in the future.
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Jordan Peterson planting a seed inside Elon's mind as we speak
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>>16292734
I think hes planting his seed somewhere else.
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Thread theme?
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>>16292742
If this is your first train of thought, you may, in fact, be gay
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https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1815502858009133330

SpaceX continues to win
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>>16292752
NASA, on behalf of the (NOAA), has selected SpaceX to provide launch services for the JPSS-4 mission.

A firm fixed price contract with a value of approximately $112.7 million, which includes launch services and other mission related costs. The JPSS-4 mission currently is targeted to launch in 2027, on a Falcon 9 rocket from SLC-4 E at Vandenberg.
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https://x.com/Anc_Aesthetics/status/1815492975960494092

RIP.
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>>16292371
why cant they do a good job themselves, they have plenty of missions with hardware that weren't designed commercially. I understand if the senate designed the rocket it's not nasa's fault, but then the reality is still exceptionalism is not on display at nasa
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>>16292398
bigger hardware tho
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>>16292759
>spaceflight?
If you want to rant about trannies, there's the decoy thread you know?
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>>16292451
>dark oxygen

Everybody just likes saying dark just shut the fuck up
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>>16292767
Spaceflight policy dictated by the leader of free world's personal life.
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>>16292752
he can't keep getting away with it
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>>16292702
get this man an award immediately
don't give me any bullshit about speed of light delays, either
*clumsily tries to fold a piece of paper while holding a pen, but spaghetti starts flowing out of my fanny pack*
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>>16292702
IN ENGLISH DOC
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>>16292644
As far as public figures are concerned musk speaks with an unusually low amount of obscurantism
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>>16292700
>Brain produces various personas/facades
>Substitution death/Empathy simulation engine?
>Limits of natural resources is a malthusian/marxist imposition on the limits of human capacity
>Humans can easily surpass this limit in reality by creating more natural resource
I dont get the last part about trustworthiness/community aspect. I didnt get the prior conversation context on that one
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>>16292793
This is exactly how I interpreted it
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>>16292793
>>16292700
Sort of an interesting talk from the looks of it.
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>According to RGV Aerial Photography's latest Starbase flyover update, it is very possible that SpaceX has settled the case of the infamous plot of land they literally had to build the Strafactory around. I have yet to see anything concrete and SpaceX has not confirmed.
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>>16292802
>Private Area
that's where they store the propellant
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>>16292802
Yeah normally I’d say I respect the long game and the hustle of a player trying to make money off that land… but the owner is a huge faggot here and idc if it makes me hypocritical; space is more important than [almost] everything else
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>>16292805
I wonder what he was asking for it and if its just some principle thing for musk
like if it was 20mil?
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>>16292802
>>16292805
If you guys owned this land, what would you ask for in return?
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>>16292809
A ride to the moon for one of my kids
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>>16292807
Nah he probably had some family lawyer who told him to hold hold hold. Once he realized they were seriously designing the factory AROUND his piece of land he probably decided to sell (aka now), lest musk just give up and tell him to go fuck himself
Which is what I hope Musk actually does kek. Don’t give him a penny just let him have his 200 square foot kingdom
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>>16292747
Why did you assume that meant in another man? And why also did you assume that was sexual when your original message was not?
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>>16292809
my own recording studio
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>>16292560
>>16292565
>>16292582
seethe some more

>>16292578
>anime retard calling other people trannies
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you have to be kidding me. have you tried looking at a mirror?
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>>16292816
>one of my kids
Are you 50? This is happening in our lifetime
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>Elon xeeting about silver

Yes, yes it's all coming together.
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>youtube search "Elon"
>it gives you dozen cryptoscam hacked livestream channels
>do this everyday for a month
>dozens of new ones each day
LMAO. How have they not done anything to these scam bots?
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>>16292876
the majority of the internet is fake
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>>16292809
the skull of Kazakhstan’s last Khan, Kenesary Kasymov
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>>16292809
i would sex with jesse anderson on it, in front if everyone. her screams would be wild
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>>16292759
so he can be born gay
but not a tranny?
this is how the leftists win, you start defending all their agendas of 20 years ago
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>>16292809
one night with elon
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>>16292892
the whole point is, we went from
>you're a girl so you like ponies
to
>you like ponies so you're a girl
It's a fundamental shift
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>>16292870
>not having adult children
do agelets really?

(replied to the wrong post--probably just my Alzheimers)
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>>16292894
a boy can have sex with ponies too though
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>>16292898
spaceflight
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>>16292900
its past the limit so u can type w/e you want
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btw the past like 23 posts have not been spaceflight
as someone contributing to this mess I apologies
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>>16292071
Be nicer
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1815539452724342908

SPACEX WASTED 40 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF ENGINE
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>>16292911
hourly reminder that some of the SLS engines are flown shuttle engines that belong in a museum not down in the ocean
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>>16292914
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>>16292916
donkey kong?
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>>16292914
Another classic Eric berger dunking on Nasa, does it ever get old? Ha ha
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>Satellite images from July 21 show ABL's pad in Alaska following the incident stated in the quoted tweet. Charring can be seen at the pad and a possible scorch mark from the static fire.
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>>16292914
I am now imaging a cursed expendable MethaLox SLS core made of carbon fibre with 4 Raptors plus boosters.
>>16292917
Looks like they named the engine SPMTs after Mario characters the one ahead is called Bowser
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2nd SLS core stage just arrived in Florida
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>>16292939
I hope it explodes
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>>16292100
strap a bunch of giant rockets to it and push it's orbit into the goldilocks zone then we can start talking
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>>16292224
Senator Nelson, a second tower has been built in Starbase
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>>16292413
I love this state so much bros, so glad I bailed out of CA for here where voting red actually does something
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>>16292963
>voting red actually does something

Apart from stopping the endless horde of bean people. Texas looks like Guatemala with a topping of fat fuck white boomers.
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>>16292809
a tour of starbase with Elon whenever he does those for press or influencers, and 500k for the land
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>>16292809
Never selling, simple as.
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>>16292914
>flight 6
WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD FIVE YET
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What does a Kamala Harris presidency mean for spaceflight? Harris has been presiding over the National Space Council, what are her achievements through this working group? Will Elon get along well with Kamala Harris?
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>>16292897
Ok Mr President that's enough for now
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0% chance that nigger bitch gets elected, trump gonna cut the red tape for my boy. We are so back.
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/polsfg/ is annoying
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Falcon 9 has gone 11 DAYS without flying

Unreal
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>>16293002
Berger said possible launch tomorrow
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>>16293001
Spaceflight is inherently political so long as statist niggers exist. Also it's time for the plebs to choose between their two manufactured opposition parties so you won't escape it anywhere unless you turn off the computer and go camping.
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>>16293001
Removing the worst president was Musk's big achievement. Now ensuring Trump is elected will be his 2nd political move.

That will ensure spaceflight industry moves forward in peace. Harassment of SpaceX/Starlink by the Biden admin was terrible
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We really need to turn the temperature down in the industry before somebody gets hurt
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>>16293014
Who the fuck is this nigger? Anything important to space?
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>>16293015
TDS lolcow extraordinaire, appears to have developed a severe case of EDS too
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>>16292235
This
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>>16293002
yeah, it's kind of depressing
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>>16292343
He is going to get musk to impregnate his daughter
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when the fuck are we gaaaaan
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>>16293034
Youre a freak of nature you know that
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>>16292937
>cursed expendable MethaLox SLS core made of carbon fibre with 4 Raptors plus boosters
That would be rad, actually.
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>>16292872
What's up with that. I've seen a bunch of republican youtubers get sponsorships from silver companies. So weird.
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>>16292985
They (by which I mean DOD and NASA) will aggressively steer contracts to JPL, ULA and BO under the guise of "providing for alternatives". The lack of progress will make a mockery out of the scheme. JPL will not recover during the next four years as literally all of its prospective postdocs have scattered to the winds.

Harris' sum total of contributions to the NSC are facilitating its continued operation, which mostly operated as a forum for the less capitalized space industry top get the ear of policymakers (e.g. earth science). If you want to watch how awful she is as a public speaker, watch her NSC speech here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk_NnaAQcrg

Elon is moving his businesses out of California, her home state, over its policies. As he will no longer be a taxpayer there, his interests will be represented in Congress by other states, mainly Texas. This will likely remove any incentive Harris would have to assist SpaceX, as she is a creature of the political machine in California. NASA is also focusing on California, and is building its first new research center in decades out at Moffett Field: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2023/10/17/university-of-california-berkeley-and-nasa-to-build-new-2-billion-space-research-center/. The timing of SpaceX's move is going to cast a shadow over the future of the center, which may end up being canceled or reduced depending on a congressional whim before its completion.
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>>16293125
Silver/precious metals bros are going to win. Paper money situation is getting pretty bad globally, yen is the main fucked one going goodbye soon and once a few start to go, trust goes too. Nations won't want to exchange toilet paper for tangible goods in the not too distant future. Only options are bitcoin for a decentralised no counter party risk settlement or some kind of thoroughly audited precious metal reserve backed currency. Given the amount of smart cunts in here, it's embarrassing how many people still put stock in printed toilet paper fiat war money. Guess there is still a lot of american exceptionalism rhetoric going around, lol lmao. Imagine trusting the currency of the government that gives unlimited wet ink fresh off the printer bills to boing and ULA. Anyone with a decent IQ can see the writing on wall, which is why JP Morgan has the single largest physical silver reserve and why countries around the world are scooping gold as fast as possible without annihilating the market.
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>>16293151
This shit ain't spaceflight
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>>16293154
Spaceflight needs money chaim
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>>16293034
Bedeviled egg!
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>>16293154
USD bagholder observed
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>>16293151
precious metal cultists are the funniest shit
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>>16293139
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Puts many of my own thoughts in context
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815595311177334944
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>>16293031
Never thought I would miss the Daily Starlink
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>>16293151
>silver
>precious metal
might as well collect copper, silver collecting is just a cope for people who can't afford gold
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>>16293195
Industrial ass looking launch towers aren't going to be acceptable for commercial passenger spaceflight
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>>16293203
Silver:gold ratio is the lowest it has ever been despite silver being mass destroyed through industrial processes and mining discovery+productivity declining year on year, cope. But yes, gold is still also a good way to squirrel your finances away from paper money Judaism.
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I can't wait to just drop a gold asteroid on earth to permanently make gold worth nothing.
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>>16293215
Delta v ignorant moron
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>>16293218
>ohh noo I have to spend a while tacking against the sun
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starships made of gold alloy
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>>16293219
Clueless
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>>16293222
so you don't know?
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>>16292627
lots of little red dots, not sure what they are
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>>16293002
It already feels like a month
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>>16292670
cool it!
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>>16293154
Spaceflight is political.
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>>16293195
I thought you guys said they were only going to build a few SLS's?
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>>16293246
That picture is not real.
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>>16293223
Present your precious metal rich asteroid-earth intercept proposal
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>>16293257
>not wanting everybody on earth to be a trillionaire
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>>16293261
>no proposal found

As expected
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>>16292419
Well thats not true. If things get bad enough then you're left with a choice between default and hyperinflation.
Sure, almost everyone would choose hyperinflation but default is certainly still a possibility if for whatever reason the government prefers it over hyperinflation.
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>>16293268
I hate the asteroid mining fags so much man
>they have gold
>gold is valuable
>there are no other factors I'm aware of
>you can make money
They just don't know about space
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>>16291344
>The US is the least corrupt nation on earth
Thanks for the laugh anon
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>>16293257
I have no interest in spoonfeeding you in-space propulsion. Delta-v is a solved problem for asteroid mining.
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>>16293282
OK so no arguments found. Thank you.
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>>16292655
>>16292673
This but unironically. People in the arctic circle regularly go through periods of night and day longer than that. As well thanks to the fossil record we know this is no problem for earth life too. Back in the jurassic the poles were sub-tropical and had an ecosystem that reflected that.
>>16292659
Thats why I prefer the seeding with hydrogen plan for venus, get rid of the CO2 and make an ocean at the same time. Only issue is getting the hydrogen there.
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>>16292587
>more whining
continue to seethe for no reason mr tranny.
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>>16293282
>hmm it actually is possible
>how you ask? hm would take too long to explain
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Can't you just use solar sails if time isn't an issue?
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>>16293299
what the the hell are you talking about? did you intend for this to be a reply to someone?
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>>16293301
Being unable to read subtext doesn't make you smart.
Quite the opposite in fact.
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why does a lack of falcon 9 launches make you guys so angry.
there's no launches for a while and immediately you guys turn into a bunch of overly political pissy faggots. my woman on her period bitches less than you do, can we just all get along?
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>>16293303
Being unable to use a website doesn't make you smart.
Quite the opposite in fact.
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>>16293326
>unable to use a website
I'm using it right now dipshit. How are you able to type being this stupid?
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>>16293329
I see you've figured out how to use the reply function. Keep it up and you'll fit right in soon enough
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>>16293211
Can't eat it nigger. Can of beans or bullets going to be worth a hell of a lot more in your post apocalyptic fantasy.
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Jannies need to nuke this thread
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>>16293355
They deorbit threads once they reach End of Life (Page 10)
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>>16293361
Why does it need fuck hueg solar panels? It wlll literally be a stripped down Dragon (ie. less power requirements) with a larger unpowered payload.
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>>16293361
Why is the dragon capsule part even necessary? Isn't that just dead weight?
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>>16293380
It's cheaper and easier to use a dragon capsule to dock with the ISS and house all of the comms/electrical/batteries than to develop a DV with all of that onboard, there also won't be a need for a lot of heavy stuff like lifesupport, seats, heatshield etc...
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>>16293389
Fair point about the docking.
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>>16293366
Probably the same reason cargo dragon does?
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STAGE US ALREADY
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>>16293361
Old /sfg/s should be boosted to graveyard orbits.
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Making a thread now.
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STAGING

>>16293407
>>16293407
>>16293407
>>16293407
>>16293407
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>>16293218
It's called lithobraking and it means I can get all the Δv I want when striking Earth



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