boeing shartliner edition why is nasa such a shitshow?previous >>16286216
Fuck space
Fuck urf
>>16288621I would, but it lacks suitable holes.
>>16288630crazy that you can make a fictional movie and everyone just believes it. the founding fathers did not prepare for this
>>16288638But it said "Inspired By True Events" in the opening credits
>>16288639That means they took historical events and made it a playground for their made up nonsense.
>>16288639There is one scene where John Glenn stops the launch process and demands to personally speak with the negress who made the calculations. I'm pretty sure something like this did not happen.
>>16288639I remember they did a poll of the br*tish and most of them thought "The Boy in the Striped Pajamas" was a true story lol
>>16288653The movie is a little one-sided
>>16288651it defeats the whole point of having a capcom but whatever
I really need an explanation as to why the ancient piece of shit Soyuz was the ONLY way for anyone to get to orbit until Crew Dragon while the largest space industry on the planet can’t make Starliner work? What the FUCK is going on? Why is fucking Soyuz working and Starliner isn’t? Ecxplain.
>>16288659S____ I_ H___
>>16288659because soyuz's had more effort put into it over 60 years than starliner has?
>>16288659Europe should nuke itself out of shame for not developing at least orc-tier human spacecraft
>>16288659Soyuz predates the moon landing so they've had time to work out any bugs. Starliner was planned by Boeing to be cost plus, so they didn't really worry about it. It was just going to be another way for them to suck up NASA's billions. Unfortunately for them SpaceX not only succeeded but beat them by five years so they never got more than the original sum. Not only did they get $4bil from NASA, they had to spend another $1.5bil of their own money. All this while the best aerospace engineers are taking a pay cut to work at SpaceX. It was always doomed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEUG1v8fSjgLocal news story on SpaceX relocation plans to Starbase.
Also HOW is SLS cleaning Starship’s clock like this? I get that SLS is wildly expensive, but it FUCKING WORKS, Starship does NOT. Forget reusable tech, it can put exactly ZERO kg into orbit currently. ZERO. It literally doesn’t fucking work. SpaceX has the best design lab on the planet and enormous funding from large government contracts and has.been building and testing furiously — and yet SLS is reheating old tech and parts. We’re engineers of that era just THAT much more talented? Is it just screwing themselves trying to reach an unrealistically aggressive cost ratio? What is it?
>>16288674Heres a (You) since you put allot of effort in to bait nobody will read.
>>16288659it just works
>>16288674so true bestie
>>16288659
>>16288686curvature of earth demonstrated
>>16288674low quality bait, you're probably underage.
>>16288674obligatory (you)
>>16288674
The bait post above made me realize that both starship and sls are designed for reuse.Starship for the flight hardware, sls for the ideas, contractors and pork.Starship is still working on its reuse goals, but sls reused everything it was meant to before it ever took off.
Is it proper to say mars belongs to the earth? Because humans are here and we control basically everything?Is it more proper to say “Mars belongs to the Sun” (or, mars belongs to the solar/sol system, I guess)In my opinion: Mars belongs to Earth, but if I think about it too hard… the sun doesn’t belong to the earth! It’s the other way around, the Earth obviously belongs to the Sun; which dwarfs us with its superior gravity and its unfathomably energetic nuclear activity
>>16288712i mean, SLS was excellent at re-using the pork grifting technologies developed alongside the shuttle, they were even more efficient this time at sucking as much money as possible into useless grift.
>>16288718everything in the universe belongs to humans. God made it all for us.
>>16288718rare /x/post that i approve of having in here
>>16288718What if we were to capture the sun?Build a cage around it and use it for our purposes! Then the solar system would be ours.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814366082385224060
>>16288718>be sun>shitty little monkeys evolve on a planet in my solarsystem>hmmpf, they're way below me>fastforward a few million years>they built a cuck cage around me and steal all my energy away from me, even a CME won't do anything to them anymore, they just think it's pretty!>they won't even let me die in peace or go out on my own terms, they keep removing the heavy metals in my core and adding more hydrogen!soon we will own that bitch too, the void, the stars and everything in between belongs to humanity, all male aliens will be killed and their females used as our subservient little sex slaves.
>>16288729We'll create synthetic life forms long, long, long before we meet any aliens.
>>16288733you think it'll take us longer to drill through Europa's crust than to make synthetic life?
>>16288727If he lands it on the FAA HQ, everybody gets a free taco.
>>16288741With the planetary mission directorate at NASA being the way it is and no fire under the asses of politicians to make it happen, yeah, probably.
>>16288727A reminder that the new trunk turns Dragon into a deep space vehicle.You don't need a heat shield capable of handling Lunar return velocities if you can propulsively decelerate.This will remove the key niche that makes Orion (and thus SLS) indispensible for the Artemis program.
>>16288750>You don't need a heat shield capable of handling Lunar return velocities if you can propulsively decelerate.holy shit true, then you can launch distributed Vast or NG modules to link up with the deep space Dragon and you basically have a mini-Gateway
https://x.com/relativityspace/status/1814375659583746349Relativity comes out of hybernation
>>16288754Oh right, the Terran R guys, I legitimately forgot what they were doing.
>>16288754>the aggressiveness of that musicBased. Lo-fi ambient electronica needs to get out of the way; space is about going hard.
der 7-8 raum vector ist der bluthimmel bewegung durch programmgeometry.
I can't believe Elon Musk died of Ligma
>>16288780who's steve jobs?
>>16288639That's just for legal liability. The movie was about 98% true
>>16288750Wait is there not a heat shield on the deorbit dragon? How is the last of the crew going to get off or the pilot that's taking the ISS down going to survive?
>>16288791They will burn up with the ISS
>>16288791Crew will return on seperate vehicle.
>>16288791you could have figured this one out on your own champ
>>16288791The Orion crew will be still be stranded there, to guide her down.
>>16288727>high impulse, low thrusttoo bad VASIMR isn't ready, sounds like an ideal testbed and application for it. Instead we get bog standard monoprop thrusters, just a lot of them.
>>16288791They will send up a Starliner for the final crew return flight
>>16288630
>>16288729>muh narcissistic power fantasy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_(psychology)#Narcissistic_personality_disorderTwo characteristics of someone with narcissistic personality disorder are:[28]A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior)A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, wealth, beauty, or ideal love.
>>16288813non-sequitur
>>16288813>Dream of doing big things>ThAtS bAd AcTuAlLySeethe harder.
>>16288806too low of thrust
>>16288813https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
>>16288818are any of the ion thrusters under development powerful enough for this task?
what's the current status for shart-in-mart-liner?
>>16288825Still in orbit as a monument to the necessarily deleterious consequences of affirmative action for competency and capability.
>>16288821not without a hilariously large power source, imagine the deorbit tug having solar panels larger than the ISS
>>16288727>easier to develop a new craft than remove and tie up the panelsNASA. Whatever, happy the money is going to SpaceX
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1814412765039034728?t=XybHV9Mc7CVR9tHCywwuPQ&s=19
>>16288889Sounds like six to eight launches -- four if it's for Starshield.
fags
>>16288896where?
The ideal budget for NASA is zero
>>16288889https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/3844604//
>>16288901Hmmm something about this is fishy
>>16288901>>16288908>awarded a $661,025,403 modification>from $3,338,974,597>to $4,000,000,000
SubsidyX<Original joke. Do not repost>
>>16288901>>16288889NSS launch. Probably moved away from Vulcan to SpaceX.
>>16288749I think a private organization will do it long before nasa WSVG
>>16288901>>16288889Both ULA and SpaceX got money, though we don't know what exactly for.
>>16288939Also very round numbers. Weird.
Just watched the Wild Wild West. (Astra, Planet, RocketLab). It was pretty cool
>>16288970Shut up nigger >>>/lit/sffg
>The largest robotic arm on the ISS, Canadarm2 weighs 1,800 kilograms and is used to hold crew members during EVAs, move station modules, spacecraft, orbital replacement units and Dextre on the US Orbital Segment. The ROS does not require spacecraft or modules to be manipulated, as all spacecraft and modules dock automatically, and may be repositioned or discarded the same way. Each Strela crane weighs 45 kg and can perform all necessary tasks, with substantial weight savings, less complexity and less maintenance than the Canadarm2 and the European Robotic Arm. Who is in the wrong here?
>>16288939>>16288889>>16288901brilliant pebbles
>>16288791expendable crew
>>16288982>can preform all necessary tasks>except relocate itself>or dock unpiloted modules/vessels>or dock the shuttle Its Russian propaganda, why use advanced western robotic arm when good ol' hand cranked Russian ladder is available
>>16289002Why would it need to do those things?
I shit my ass and now I pee poop!
>>16288982has>nasa developed a million dollar space pen that can write upside down, underwater, and in a vacuum>the russians used a pencilvibes
>>16289015graphite flakes/dust were an electrical/fire hazard, especially in the high oxygen environments that a lot of early spacecraft used
>>16288791Use a fire extinguisher to Tiangong and hijack a Shenzhou to return home with a great story to tell.
>>16288791Crashing this space station, with no survivors.
>>16288830What if they hook directly to the ISS's power supply?
>>16289086They have to keep the Starliner crew oxygenated while de-orbiting. Can't do that if you reroute the power
>>16289089kek
>go outside this evening>its pinkish-orange because the cloudy skies are sucking up the sunset>feels like mars>feels weird and depressinggood luck to the colonists
>>16288889most likely starshield or that space force megaconstellation
>>16289096they should get astronauts from the western states where wild fire smoke blots out the sky for a couple months, they can handle it
>>16289096Mars doesn't have a Mexico movie filter bro, it looks just like urf during the day.
>>16288791MOOSE
>>16288791They expect one of us in the wreckage brother
>Falcon 9 triple-header>LC-39 and LC-40 launches are scheduled 8 minutes apart
>>16289130oh shit forreal?
how's it going on the Chinese space station
>>16289132If Next Spaceflight is to be believed
>>16289134nobody cares what's happening on the iss, let alone the chinese station. you could even put them together and still nobody would care.
The space shuttle external tank had a wall thickness of 2.5 mm, what is the tank thickness of the SLS?
>>16289154More than that
>>16288659Because soviets designed their shit to fucking work, not to milk money out of the government's teat.
>>16288727>oops we accidentally boosted it into a higher orbit and are now making it a museumSeriously, allowing it to go down is criminal.
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>>16289203Hi! I'm poopyass! Thanks for posting
>>16289223Go change your diaper >>>/pol/ will help you
>>16289239Would you shut up man?
>>16289151clearly we need to replace astronauts and experiments with space reality TV to get funding for space flight development.
>>16289248There was going to be a show like that but it must've been quietly cancelled
>>16289195why dont they graveyard orbit it? Eventually it will be feasible to return it to earth. It's like if people hundreds of years ago sank a historically significant boat instead of just beaching it
>>16289277NASA released a whole paper on why they are deorbiting it instead of the other options, go read it.
I hope the weather's better for flight 5, Flight 2 still has the best off-board launch footage by far.
>>16289309Two more weeks
>>16289309as long as we get a launch before 730am local time I don't care (then we'd get some daylight during ship reentry in the indian ocean)
>>16289317They're revising the flight plan for flight 5, and with any luck, that won't include a nighttime reentry and landing because Ship 29 made a soft splashdown.
>>16289319has there been any word on whether they're trying an in-space raptor relight this time around? Otherwise I don't think the flight plan for the ship itself will change itself
>>16289298Tldr?
>>16289328It's going to fall apart due to heating cycles and become a cloud of space junk.
>>16289323No, but it's assumed that they'll make the attempt, because it's the last hurdle before they can start carrying real payloads.
>>16289298source?
55 years today my dudes
Wasn't falcon supposed to return to flight this weekend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yonYf6zoR0Y>Viewer Spaceflight Questions 2.1
Another oldspace retard down. A few more and we're onto a more reasonable generation.
>>16289371Gonna be 60 before they go on the moon again.
>>16288835its like 40 years old
>>16288813>explicitly believe in humanity, something greater than myself, and their ability to one day conquer the stars and everything else>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE LE ALIENS>YOU'RE NOT THAT SPESHAAALyeah i know sperglord, i'm not, but humanity (white people) are, and we will claim it for it is our birthright. those without human spirit (you) will be left by the wayside, mostly forgotten but occasionally remembered in history as the naysayers that formed all their self-confidence from their belief that pessimism and self-hatred was equal to intelligence.
>>16289369>book about Coloradowhat state does the Z man live in? Anybody know?
>>16289405No not the ISS, the deorbit vehicle. Elon is saying it needs a low max thrust because of the panels. How hard would it really be to just cut/tie them down? I don't know anything but that seems cheaper than $800mil. I guess space is hard
>>16289130Did they say why the last one failed?
>>16289435I thought about this too back when he said it and my only thought is, where would you put the panels after some EVA welding or whatever to get them off?The roll up soft panels might not be a problem (assuming they can be rolled back up) but the stiff panels are quite large and a lot of pieces of the station in general came upin the shuttle bay door (so nothing today can really take it back down) and like half the hardware on the station is hard-bolted together; not designed to come apart
>>16289421Dr. Z dwells in Colorado I think
>>16289444I'm literally saying tie them lengthwise against the ISS with rope. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work.
>>16289371Anyone else watching Apollo 11 this evening? its a great moviedoc. awesome saturn V launch sequence
>>16289447Because the panels don’t bend like thatPlus the US Astronaut corps has too many engineers and shuttle-era over thinkers… not enough cowboy astronauts who know how to wrangle
>>16289333this, or maybe get hit by something and do the same. don't want a cloud of junk in a high orbit like that. it'll take forever to deorbit by itself.
It would be great if we could even take one of the later modules off and bring it down, but we don't have the tech for it now.I'm not sure that Shittle could even land with one of the modules in its cargo bay, it might be too heavy.
>>16289449I'm pretty sure you wouldn't need to bend them. Just stack them up and tie them to the big flat part. You can even use a three million dollar aerospace grade rope if you really want to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U18lle1xBAA>How Will SpaceX Starship Overcome This Problem?
>>16289377I thought that too, did the faa go home for the weekend before giving them the all clear?
>>16289435How would the panels make it harder to thrust? It's not like there's any drag acting on them. Centre of mass wouldn't matter since they are symmetrical.
>>16289469I'm not telling you.
>>16289452Real Planetes hours. How long until in-orbit servicing becomes viable?Before you say 'never', realize that this is what the ISS crew basically are already. They spend much more time doing repairs and maintenance than on "science," and what they call science is mostly just following step-by-step directions radioed to them from the ground. The reason astronauts have 6 PhDs each is because it's hypercompetitive, not because they actually need the skills.
>>16289469i know how to do it.
>>16289471The problem is probably more to do with breaking the panels like twigs if you had high thrust. You want to deorbit the entire station, not break everything apart and leave 50% of the station in LEO
>>16289471The low max thrust limit is because the panels are floppy. They're designed for an environment where basically no forces are acting on them>>16289474Yeah I bet 70s NASA would've handled this differently. When space is fuller and everyone up there is private, you'll probably see some cowboys again.
>>16289474there are startups with the goal to do in-orbit servicing already
>>16289474Nigger, you can't simply EVA and start pulling cables off. Do you know how much dicking around you have to do just for a basic assembly EVA? It's not that easy in de-construction-ry>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbZQEIGIbI
>>16289471theres only so much stress they can take before they snap off and envelope the entire world in an impenetrable layer of deadly shards forever.
>>16289435>How hard would it really be to just cut/tie them downThat requires astronauts do long eva work to remove something and then have those parts be controlled deorbited as well. This requires few more launches to do the job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jn6d9VarI>New Launch Tower is Rising Quickly | SpaceX Boca Chica
>>16288727Imagine the headlines if something went wrong>SpaceX TEARS APART the space station (no elaboration)
>>16289503
>>16289469What is the problem? I don't watch clickbait videos that don't actually say what the video is about
>>16289513Fuck, I'm never watching this annoying fag again.The problem was the freezing point of methane and boiling temperature of oxygen being really close but it's actually not because they're kept at higher pressure, making the difference higher.
>>16289516cool I guess I don't need to watch it then, lmao
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>>16289521
>>16289385his answers>nuclear rocketsunimpressive
>>16289526>>16289385>nobody self-funds nuclear rocketsYeah, no fucking shit. How can anyone do this if the core mechanism of the technology is kept under a gorillion locks and they guy with the keys is an 80 year old that takes 5 minutes to open each locks. Fission rockets will never EVER be self funded. The only way market funding returns to this sector is whenever fusion gets solved in the next 15-20 years and the focus is on miniaturization.
https://youtu.be/4OS9kq0-ssgThere is an interesting point in Hullo's video. He said that right before Bridenstein became a NASA admin, a Lunar rover was concelled and because he was really interesting in exploration of the Moon, he brought it back as VIPER. Now, under another admin, they're concelling the Lunar rover again.Him and Jurczyk were really one of the best people at NASA in recent years.
>>16289536lol, and he openly said that it could be a political move because NASA doesn't want private companies doing their job
>>16289489wow these guys are fast!
>>16289543>because NASA doesn't want private companies doing their jobWhat a retarded move if that's the reality of it all>Private companies offering cheaper and more reliable access to space>NASA becomes ass-mad>Shoots itself in the foot in protest>Govt. see's NASA as incompetent >Awards more missions to private companies
Is SX still having autogenous pressurization issues with Starship?
>>16289556I would accept this explanation if NASA was an efficient and stringen organization but everyone knows it's pretty much the opposite. Especially not with that orange frankenstein rocket eating up the huge part of their budget.We can only hope for a different administration at the end of the year.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814657805351071778
>>16289562americans are such rubes. they see $42 billion vanish and their first instinct is that it has to be incompetence. any other country in the world would know exactly what to call it.
>>16289568For some reason everywhere in the world investment into expanding internet infrastructure ends up vanishing
>>16289562To be fair, what exactly is Joe supposed to do? It’s not like the gooberment could somehow rescind the contracts and re-award them to Starlink
>>16289570Romania has better internet infrastructure than USA.
>>16289574Yes they could. If the contractor has nothing to show for 42B then of course they could terminate it and ask for the money back
>>16289574Government can do whatever it wants.
>>16289574sleep joe's administration put the pressure on the FCC to withdraw the contract in the first place
>>16289576How much of that infrastructure actually useable? Not Romania, but here they just laid down bunch of cables all over the country, but it's pretty much impossible to connect to it, there's a cable running like 30 meters from my house
>>16289556Which entity in the government do you think it is who awards those contracts to private entities?
>>16289591Optical cables are all over Eastern EuropeIf I were to make a joke, I'd say it's because plastic optical cable can't be stolen and sold like copper cables
>>16289605I'm from eastern europe and like I said they just laid a lot of optical cables that connects to nothing
Sam Harris on Elon Musk's recent Twitter outbursts:https://youtu.be/E1GROJPCPV4?si=ZsgMeeTOMpeTRr-r&t=2498
>>16289605balkanoid here, my internetspeed is pretty sad.
>>16289613im on 3g cell phone data 10km from the tower in the woods. its been really shit for weeks now. i think summer is generally worse due to the sun or something. same every year. if i can hit 100kb/s its awesome.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814666180356878703
>>16289605no internet in Iceland? kek
>>16289612Sam Harris has severe TDS, so bad he basically cut ties to people who didn't have as bad TDS as he had
>>16289622>anyone with millions of dollars who wants to be a space traveler and help build a new civilization on Mars should be able to do so
>>16289625apparently he's not on good terms with Elon either. If he was he could be influencing Martian religious policy.
>>16288729I agree in principle, but I am unconvinced that there would necessarily be male and female aliens.Earth itself provides counter examples even among macroscopic multicellular life, even among vertebrates, and even among mammals. Male seahorses incubate eggs, male birds are the beautiful ones, and there's enough to write about hyenas to fill whole books.But supposing there were male and female aliens, why should we expect them to be more sexually attractive to us than any other non-human animals? Many mammals are easily classified as male or female in a way that's analogous to humans, but very few people find dogs or apes or badgers sexy.There are many perfectly fertile human females who due to one defect or another, or even simply age or plainness, are below the standards of the type of men who would genocide alien races in their quest for alien pussy. If not they could simply stay on earth fucking fatties, grannies or double baggers. Is it reasonable to expect alien females to be more attractive to human males than actual human females?tl;dr aliens are likely to be ugly and not hot and not resemble the female sexual ideal ingrained in human males by millions of years of evolution, and on that basis I expect they will make bad sex slaves
>>16288791They're leaving with the Axiom space station
>>16288970not spaceflight
>>16289006tyfys
>>16289628or if you have some valuable skills then you could probably become a colonist/worker
>>16289006>/wsg/5617333
>>16289648kek
HAPPY MOON LANDING DAY EVERYONE!WOOOO YEEEEEAAHHH
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1814662803547988046>An update for you: USSF-106 is our first national security space mission on Vulcan. Finishing up for transport to the Cape. (Our second mission is already there and waiting)
>>16289628Elon makes money in order to fund his Mars colony. If he has enough money from other sources he can afford to hire qualified colonists rather than charge them to go. (The welders he's paying to build Starship right now aren't multimillionaires paying for the privilege.)
What are they trying to hide with this blur? Is this Japanese rocket porn or something?
>>16289667that is how it is going to have to start in any casebut there needs to be permanent colonists that want to live there at some point, perhaps that can be done through people paying through work in some sense instead of paying for the trip, but they would pretty much have to work at the colony anyway even if they paid for the trip
>trying to find trump's speech regarding spaceflightwhere is it? there's like 500 speeches this week
>>16289652>or if you have some valuable skills then you could probably become a slave to your rich overlords
>>16289663Biden and musk are USA lunar landing posting today and you guys are blackpilling
>>16289671It's just ITAR being inconsistent. We've seen much clearer views of this section before.
https://x.com/WarPath2pt0/status/1814647579340128305
>>16289692even if you became an indentured servant I'm pretty sure they would let you leaveyou would just have debtassuming AI and robots don't make western countries semi-post scarcity or something but that would take time in any case
>>16289696hol up why are they building the same rocket again?
>>16289698We're already arguably post-scarcity.
>>16289702Far from it dweeb, it costs me $200 USD to go restock my pantry with necessities
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>>16289704>necessitiesyou can feed yourself for much cheaper if you just lower your standards a little bit.
>>16289708We're not post-scarcity then.
>>16289708Then it’s not post scarcity
>>16289708still not cheap enough to be post-scarcity
>>16289714bigot
>>16289679Even if it started as a "company town" there would still be the wives and children of employees, and then retirees and anyone who quit but wanted to stay. Pretty soon there would be a sizable non-employee population even if there was never anyone who paid to go.
>>16289694>biden>postingcome on, manlet's not discuss fantasy
Manned space exploration is hardly gonna happen before we reach singularity
I think that Eager posts here
>>16289704Yeah, but you could get that food for free (and probably more) from a combination of SNAP and food pantries
>>16289705me, helping out after someone says nigga
>>16289724The same goes for housing but why are we now judging societies’s progress from the benchmark of our bottom-of-the-barrel social programs? Textbook earther move here
>not buying bags of flour in the bulk and then cooking it in water and eating ityou guys are paying and order of magnitude more for your food than you should.
>>16289729It's not a question of standards. It doesn't count as "scarcity" if someone is merely too proud, ashamed or lazy to take free things.
>>16289729If anything, the fact that people turn down free housing and food proves we ARE in a post scarcity society.
>>16289736>>16289737These are not offerings intended to be given to everyone, opposed to something like say UBI.Look at the median/mode standard of living on Earth
>>16289731I lived on rice, eggs and multivitamins for a time, and for another short period it was just milk and coffee powder.I prefer not being poor, though.
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>>16289741You failed
>>16289741You're still gay
>>16289739>Look at the median/mode standard of living on EarthWe're talking about countries such as Germany now. Countries which can produce cheap abundant food. >>16289740Wish I could have the willpower to quit my consoomeristic diet and feed myself kinda like you did. Why the multivitamins though?
>>16289749I was not confident that rice and eggs alone would be enough to prevent vitamin deficiency.
>>16289696MOOOOOOOOODS
>>16289622>Please NASA give me more money for my mars dreams!!Why dont he just spend his money? He said he will send a red dragon to mars like 10 years ago, and now we got falcon heavy and dragon he wont do shit because JPL didnt give him a coin, what a fraud, first show us to can reach the moon and stop talking
>>16289696How to we convince Tim Dodd to release the unredacted version of the Starbase tour.
What do we make of all the different types of non-chemical rocket engines?
>>16289645>what is convergent evolutionI have faith there will be sexy alien women worth fucking. For the human form is the ideal for spacefaring civilizations
Reminder that animals without wings will be inferior in low g scenarios.
>>16289768not what he said and he will spend his own moneyit wasn't about JPL giving him money, it was JPL blacklisting him from all future contracts if they did the projectso this is not so much NASA giving Musk money as it is NASA not getting assdamaged and starting to obstruct MuskSpaceX will have more free cash flow from Starlink soon than what NASA yearly budget is
>>16289574>EVGM leads the EV!>Rural internetWe have no highspeed internet!>SpaceflightULA leads the way!What is this called? Musk derangement syndrome?
>>16289792titanmaxxing by flapping my wingsuit and flying around the entire moon with minimal energy
>>16288651maybe the boys in the striped pajamas were the friends we made along the way?
>>16289768>red dragonSenator Shelby threatened to withhold all NASA money if Elon did that, because it would require the Falcon Heavy to demonstrate the same capabilities as the SLS. He's retired now but all their efforts are going to Starship so it isn't happening
New steve1989 vids today. Got me thinking. What are they going to eat on the mars trip? Surely not astronaut individually packaged food like on the ISS right? They have extra space for more advanced cooking methods. Steam ovens? Microwaves? Will they eat different stuff on mars?
What would NASA even do without spacex?
>>16289852
>>16289385>old eager space introfucking hell I hope not
>>16289852Crummy United States Meals Ready to Eat.There will probably be a fridge / freezer of some sort but fresh ingredients will likely be used first, then you go to MREs until your next shipment arrives from Urf
>>16289469This almost put me to sleep, plumbing and fluids and valves and shit is by far the most boring part of rocketry holy fuck
>>16289852bugs
>>16289857>>16289860Nah. They totally have time to rehydrate freeze dried stuff. MREs aren't meant for longtime consumption anyway (blocks you up)
>>16289792Birds require gravity to swallow and may die of suffocation or starvation in lower gravity. Genuinely sorry to break it to you
>>16289816Musk avoidant syndromeHonestly makes me want Trump to win almost cause you just know Biden will come down even harder on Musk in response to his $45 million monthly donations to him
>>16289788Same actually, aliens that look more like humans/Asari will be easier to get along with I think
>>16289856Putin would start charging $200-300 million per ISS ride
>>16289802>>16289847Muskrat are really stupid, i am really interested how you guys gonna cope when in 5-6 years not even HLS is done
>>16289873What's your problem faggot we both explained why it didn't happen
>>16289861>plumbing and fluids and valves and shit is by far the most boring part of rocketrywhen you take out plumbing and fluids and valves what the fuck is left?
>>16289886I meant spaceflight
>>16288727Really should just boost it to a higher orbit. NASA is run by jews that are trying to destroy the wests greatest monuments yet again.
>>16289886Fire, smoke, and Delta-V
>>16289096The sunsets on Mars is blue, would be pretty cool to see for real
>>16289298Did producing that paper cost millions of dollars and take 5 years, too? Why should we care what they say anymore?
>>16289897>no fluids>fire and smokeokay
>>16289474Astronauts should really be bluecollar oil-rig workers.The real reason they have 6 PhDs is because they want them to be careerists who stick to the script and be married to NASA. So nobody reveals the classified stuff, or the bureaucratic grifts, or the big fuckups.
>>16289933What's the matter Anon? Never heard of solid fuel rockets before?
>>16289645I think there's a small chance that alien females could be sexyConsider that alien life may not even look that strange and could be surprisingly earth like. If the environment isn't that different, and they are carbon based, life could develop in a similar way to earth, like a broad application of convergent evolution. Even aliens in fiction aren't that alien, we just use earth's ocean life as an inspiration for land dwelling aliens, because ocean creatures are the strangest point of reference we have. In reality, something mammal-like could be common as far as alien life is concerned. Then consider that primates and hominids are especially prone to develop intelligence because they are physically capable of tool use. The final piece of the puzzle is beauty. I think our intellect gave us an enhanced perception of beauty, which is more universal than we think. We then used that perception of beauty in the process of sexual selection, which is why humans are by far the best looking primates. An intelligent species of sexually reproducing aliens may produce offspring that are palatable to us for this reason. Imagine an alien race capable of painting themselves or carving marble statues of themselves equal to earth's masters. It's actually hard to imagine they could be that ugly.
>houthis promising a major attack on israel soonwe ready for more missile intercepts in space kino?
>>16289625Sam Harris has always been a clown bullshit artist, its good that his terminal TDS has finally revealed this to more people.
>>16289947>I think there's a small chance that alien females could be sexyThe human body plan is the superlative vessel to house intelligence. Furthermore, all intelligent life is made in God's image.
>>16289645All they really need is a slimey hole of the right size
>>16289957irrelevant, we're talking about women
>>16289947I hope they look like Asari and Twi'leks
>>16289625Good for him. Most of us don't have the luxury of cutting out all the garbage people out of our lives.
>>16289961Any species with internal gestation of young and a bipedal stature will need wider hips to bear them, so that's at least one highly probable secondary sexual characteristic that would carry over in females.
I have been wondering, how true is it that someone born and raised on the Moon would actually reach monstruously tall sizes? Because it seems like an extrapolation from the idea that gravity pushes us down, anyone know any related studies?
>>16289970How the fuck would we know until it happens
So why did Biden cancel VIPER?
>>16289948Not spaceflight sub 100 km fuck off back to >>>/pol/
>>16289978Back to >>>/pol/ you brownoid thirdie
>>16289933https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyl-terminated_polybutadiene
>>16289975Well, taking into account the many times I have read it I thought it was an idea with some degree of rigour.
>>16289981>Scroll down>The land speed record attempt Bloodhound SSC was to have used HTPB with a high-test peroxide oxidizer, but that plan was altered in 2017. That would have been a very expensive way to commit suicide
>>16289988No guts no glory.
>>16289978He hates space. That's why we must vote Trump in November, to Make America Great Again!
>>16289980Nice deflection, but you didnt answer my question
>>16289978He is a nuclearchad who knew that $600 mil+ for a shitty rover is GAY and that it would ultimately be better to scrap the parts and send them on a nuclear SP lunar mission, which is happening anyways
>>16290010But the money was already spent. Why are Democrats so wasteful
>>16290015its somebody elses money so who caresjust increase the tax rate
>>16290010Didnt his nuclear "chad" get arrested for dressing up as women and stealing their underwear and is now in rehab for mental illness?
>>16289957>Furthermore, all intelligent life is made in God's image.If by some miracle we find sexy aliens. That alone will make me a firm believer in God.
For those interested /sci/ plays /sp/ in the summer cup today >>16290008
Chinese scientists propose information superhighway between Earth and the moon>The full network of 30 satellites and three lunar ground stations would provide real-time communication, navigation and monitoring services to global users>it would be able to monitor and track moving targets as small as one metre (3.28 feet) in the region between the Earth and the moon, known as cislunar space>“The competition for resources such as orbital slots and radio frequencies is already on, and will only get more intense in the future. There’s an urgent need for China to establish a top-level road map to develop cislunar space infrastructure and gain a competitive edge in the emerging cislunar economy.”https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3270910/chinese-scientists-propose-information-superhighway-between-earth-and-moonUS Prepares Jamming Devices Targeting Russia, China Satellites>The terminals “are small, transportable and low-cost satellite communications jammers that can be deployed in austere environments to protect” US forces>The first 11 of 24 Remote Modular Terminal jammers will be deployed in several months, and all of them could be in place by Dec. 31 at undisclosed locations>The new terminals augment a much larger jamming weapon called the Counter Communications System that’s already deployed and a mid-sized one called Meadowlands “by providing the ability to have a proliferated, remotely controlled and relatively relocatable capability,”https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-19/us-space-force-prepares-jammers-to-blunt-russia-china-satelliteshttps://archive is/goyl7
>>16290051
>>16289933>>16289940look at all that solid exhaust, dumbass
>>16290048fuck offnot elonnot sciencenot spaceflightnot mathnot even engineering
>>16290051>TWO geostationary space stations>two satellites in NHRO to maintain a continuous eye on Gateway
>>16290063von Braun and Elon are on the team, you no fun having fag
>security officer - night shiftIt's our time to shine
>>16290048>not elonHe's on the team as "Apsie African."
>>16290061Oh, are we going extra smartass and using the mathematical treatment of gasses as fluids, now?
>>16290076>are we going extra smartass and using the mathematical treatment of gasses as fluids>/sci/ - Science & Math
>>16290063lurk more fag, this has been going on for years
>>16290120There's regular conversational parlance and there's mathematical rigor. This conversation has fuck-all math.
>>16290076
>>16290123>regular conversational parlanceso you're saying you just talk like a fucking retard all the time?
>>16290127Of course I do. Where do you think we are?
>>16290129touche
Even solids can be made fluid. Therefore I refer to everything as a fluid.
>>16290068>thinking you'd ever pass a security check
Why is Polaris so dim right now? It's so dim I may as well not even register it on my star map. I'm standing on a hill a few kilometers outside Warsaw and the only stars I can really make out right now are Vega, Deneb (pictured r/l), Altair just below, and Arcturus towards the city.
>>16290122>>16290066we're up
>>16290143Can you see it with the naked eye? I can see it pretty well from the middle of Houston at night, even with the insane light pollution. Granted, it isn’t the brightest star in our sky. But for comparison I usually see sirius, altair, deneb, etc very clearly.Could be a cloud or something?
>>16290150>Can you see it with the naked eyeIf the hint of yellow I am seeing is Polaris, then just barely visible enough to try and line up on the chart. The light pollution here must have gotten even worse since they began mass adoption of LED street lamps. It's humid but there are no clouds to speak of right now. Sirius is not visible here at this time of the year, its below my feet. I need to go back to the Carpathian mountains or to West Pomerania for another comparison.
According to what I am reading, Saturn should be brighter than Polaris tonight (0.9 magnitude vs 2.0).
somebody bought and gifted him a blue checkmarklol he's mad
>>16290157lmaoo based
>>16290157Heh I thought he was going to just ignore it. I saw someone just did it for CSS as well.
>>16290157that's fucking hilarious.seethe little man, seethe.
>>16290157He gets alot of cool perks though, he should use them befoe he loses it
How come Elon an atheist is able to visit the Pope but me a Catholic can't go see the Pope?
>>16290182The Pope is also an atheist. Francis doesn't want anything to do with weirdo theists.
>>16290137>Sir we have downloaded his 4chan posts and they are full of talk about genociding earthers with redirected asteroids>He's perfect, get that man his gun
>>16290182trust the plan, the conversion WILL happen. Many are saying space will be catholic.
>>16290157faggot seething
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1814792228025278791Numale has a preview of a video hes working on
>>16290210looks like shit, should've just been Apollo 11 patch logo merch
>>16290157I will buy him another one as soon as this one is canceled
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1814790937236718026
>>16290248He's not going to win anyway
>>16290249Never say never.
>>16290252You just said it
>>16290254kek
>>16290254
>>16290248Well well well
>>16290248It's SO over for regulatorcels
>>16290154BUZZ LOOK A SATURNWHEREBAHHHHHH
>>16290157>impossibleIf he deleted his account, the blue checkmark would also be deleted
>>16290248Based. He tells the truth.
>>16290271I will be here waiting to encheck the new one.
>>16290263most bs regulations are going out the window, their plan is to make America full on accelerationist nation again.
>>16289788Alien women will definitely have booba. Milk is the perfect food, and necessary for developing big brains. The more intelligent the aliens, the bigger tits their females will have.
>>16290182Pope knows about aliens. Elon knows about aliens. They met to talk about aliens.
>>16290182Is the one with the long hair the tranny that got disowned?
uran is pretty cool
>>16290157>whore for Elonummm is he slut-shaming? Nothing wrong with being a SW
>>16290306if Elon knew about Aliens then why is he so hellbent on Rocketry instead of pursing more exotic propulsion technologies?
>>16290267Too bad Kamala is going to wipe the absolute floor with Orange Man
>>16290315hehehehehuehueuheuhehuehuuueue
>>16290315not sure about that, even Biden is smarter than her in brief moments where isn't acting all demented.
>>16290314He knows which technosignatures herald instant annihilation via light speed black hole transit or local dimensional collapse
>>16289741failed, you have to delete the contents of the name field to remove the tripcode
>>16289562kek this isn't even true, is it? A cursory search shows that Spectrum is already connecting homes. Hope Carr is getting good money from SpaceX at least
>>16290174looks like he's already "lost it", lel
>>16290315>Last minute change>To a candidate who couldn't win a debate in her own primary last time so they had to force her through
>>16290248Haha love Trump and Elon. MAGA
>>16290314Knowing about aliens doesn't mean having their technology, *obviously*. Rocket technology works today. Exotic propulsion might take decades or centuries to figure out.>>16290320And that too.
>>16290314The aliens are the ones who told him that non-chemical propulsion to orbit is big gay
aliens are the ones building spacex rockets and buildings
>>16289852does nasa still refuse to test cooking methods?last i heard anything involving heat is an instant no
tomorrow is going to be a busy day
Well, new heatshield is done. Didn't people say it would take months to finish retiling the new heatshields? Why are there always these losers?
>>16290392America once again lagging behind
>>16290408too be fair it did take a while
>>1629041239 days is months. Always the laggards
>>16290409Based taikonauts enjoying their cat innards grill and soju while shartonauts are chewing their cold reconstituted bean paste washed down by recycled piss water.
>>16289852Bruh that Chinese space MRE was NASTY, that can of cuttlefish ball things in juice had me gagging. The packaging was kino though.
>>16290426UUUOOHHHHHH STARSHIP TUMMY EROTIC ToT
>>16290409this how you deal with space rats watch and learn erong ma
>>16289723>I think that Eager posts hereHe was the /sfg/ Solar Chad™ from a couple of years ago
>>16290451Based solar chad, nuclearcels malding
hey guys,im back on /sfg/ after 6 years. how is bfr coming along?
>>16290473Approximately 2 more weeks
>>16290426Man starship has such a great presence.
>>16289947>Imagine an alien race capable of painting themselves or carving marble statues of themselves equal to earth's masters.
>>16290509Makes me seethe to this day how bad they fumbled the kino potential of this
You guys see the hbo doc shitting on astra?
>>16290540
>>16290511yeah, I had high hopes for Prometheus, couldn't wait to see it, and then rolled my eyes so much while watching it I came out dizzy
https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1814851201969856648>I've heard a lot about dire NASA funding wedges, and almost nothing about NASA's ongoing catastrophic productivity collapse. I worked there for four years and the only times I got in trouble (coaching conversation with manager's manager or higher) was when I made the mistake of putting into writing ways I had found of saving significant sums of money.
>>16290563The post is longer, but if this is true then it seems like there are a shitload of "low hanging fruit" technology cost wise in the areas NASA is the only "provider" nowSinply making them focus on science might not be enough
>>16290563Defund or abolish NASA
>>16290563>>16290568>NASA is an incompetent tax subsidy for brown people, trannies, assorted faggots and military industrial complex griftersMore news at 11!
>>16289612https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814881735382880496>I literally have zero interests Russia. Tesla has no operations there, SpaceX directly competes with Russia for space launch and Starlink is a key asset of Ukraine. >Sam Harris is a pompous hypocrite (writes book about how lying is terrible and then advocates lying to keep Trump from being elected) who is visibly and audibly detached from reality. How far he has fallen.
>>16290542FUCK OFF PEDO
>>16290542What is he supposed to be holding? A pringle? feather?
>>16290593I'm going nowhere
>>16290602so the anti-anime schizo was right?another conspiracy theory confirmed
>>16290426https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1814860386442559838>Starship 30 with a new improved heatshield has been lifted onto the static fire transport stand tonight for movement to Massey's test site tomorrow. >7/20/24
https://ringwatchers.com/article/s30-tps
>>16290652
>>16290542
>>16290652underlayment, areas with the new black felt also have the old white felt on top of that
>>16290672>more heat shield Why don't they just go ass first while burning an engine like the booster?
>>16290677suborbital speed vs orbital speeds
>>16290563https://x.com/ashleevance/status/1814896275328045083
>>16290606At the very least there is a serious miswiring of the brain if they have the urge to convert everything, including men, to women.
>>16290677even if that worked, the engines would need to stay on for way too long.
>>16290664>ablativeSo much for reusability
>>16290698???it's a backup in case the main system fails.they'll probably reduce and eventually remove it as they fly more and the main shield gets more reliable.
why isn't the other chopstick arm getting upgraded?
>>16290672At this point just cover the whole thing in tiles
I FUCKING HATE HEAT SHIELDS
>>16290721Hybrid metallic TPS / methane sweat cooling.Install once, never have to worry about your TPS ever again. You take a small but pretty much insignificant mass penalty.
>>16290714get that ugly NASA log off therefuck NASA
>>16290563>$250M project projecting towards $600MYIKES. No wonder VIPER was cancelled
>>16289612>Sam HarrisTrump Derangement SyndromeVax NutMusk Derangement Syndrome>Anne ApplebaumCIA assetWarmongerer (Iraq/Ukraine)Discrediting Hunter Biden laptop storyDiscrediting Nord Storm bombing as "russian"Also boardmember for "Global Disinformation Index" which runs to discredit any conservative talking point and prop up Leftist talking points
>>16290426>>16290622https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1815022091948761168>A wider view of Starship 30 at Massey's test site this morning on the static fire test stand. >7/21/24
so the booster had a static fire and soon the ship is going to static fire tooa week or two until IFT-5?
>>16290847ift 5 in 13 to 15 days, exclusive
>>16290847dos semanas
>>16290563Based handjob.
Has the VIPER matter been discussed?
it continues...>The Israeli military said its Arrow 3 missile defence system had shot down a surface-to-surface missile projectile launched from Yemen on Sunday before it crossed into Israeli territory.https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-says-it-intercepts-missile-fired-yemen-houthis-say-they-targeted-eilat-2024-07-21/arrow 3 is used to intercept targets in spacehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_3
>falcon 9 flights got delayed until next weekboring
>>16290847August 15
>>16290898when is FAA gonna clear Falcon 9
>>16290907two weeks
>>16290907never. it's over for hack fraud scamlon husk
I've been told that Elon and the entire Starlink team is freaking out. This incident has been a major wake up call over their sole reliance on the Falcon 9 and have begun exploring other launch options. They've already contracted ULA to launch Starlinks instead of the mass simulator on the next Vulcan.
>>16290390no es verdad
>>16290665i like her boobs and attitude
>>16290922they could launch it on falcon heavy, its not grounded
>>16290550>>16290511film making is too important to be left to film makers
>>16290563>>16290573congress should pay elon directly with no middle man$25 billion straight to elon's bank account, tax free every year until he asks for and receives more
>>16290944kek
>>16290944This is what Elon is doing for Trump except not every year but every month.
You Muskrat scum need to get a grip. SpaceX just got Fal-con 9 grounded with their awful ecoterrorist engineering and none of you say a thing? WAKE THE FUCK UP.
>>16290951He's donating to a pro space super pac, but trump thinks it's directly to him, but thats ok. thats good that he thinks that
>>16290960https://youtu.be/dNr7nXvntO8no
My farts smell awful today
>>16290944This is a good start but they need to grant Elon personal sovereignty over outer space and sole regulatory authority over space launches everywhere on Earth
>>16290944make brownsville an autonomous USA territory with martial law under personal jurisidiction of Elon Musk
>>16290891to death, I’m afraid
space colonization is the most important thing that civilization should be focused on, its more even more important than reversing climate change or mind uploading
>>16291007wrong
>>16290998
>>16291012whats more important than space colonization? aka making sure civilization and life survives any number of likely imminent apocalyptic scenarios.
>>16291016>making sure civilization and life survives any number of likely imminent apocalyptic scenariosWhy would you want this?
>>16291017Because, we're life?
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/07/vast-space-station-roadmap-to-2030-and-beyond.html1 more year bros
>>16291016>whats more important than space colonization?elon
>>16290563It's generally understood that NASA is a pork funnel, but it is rarely, if ever, publicly discussed how it happens. The NASA OIG has constantly advocated for funding to be evaluated for performance, but time after time it is remarked that NASAs definition of performance differs significantly from business and legal contexts. The Mobile Launcher 2 contract has been a massive and ongoing shitshow but the OIG found it was NASA's inability to set requirements that causes most of its problems. They start programs without a goal and figure they can just amend their way to the final result.
>>16291016Space colonization is that ultimate survival plan. We need to move from one planet to another. This isn't an option. Its not a backburner plan. Its the #1 priority for survival of our species today. Anyone that tries to slow down needs to be put down like the rabid dogs they are
>>16291032Imagine you worked at a company with no customers and guaranteed funding. Your coworkers would murder you if you suggested that the organization should be accountable for how it spends money.
antinatalism is the way
https://x.com/peterrhague/status/1815068520444575953heard it here first, Musk is about to heist the whole solar system
total antinatalist death
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815082747272081751
I'm gonna practise anti-antinatalism with your mom
>>16291048Anti-human death cultists are unreal. Why dont they just commit sodoku and fuck off
Kelly '24astronaut president
biden has officially withdrawn from the presidential racehttps://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320he was okay for spaceflight aside from his EDS, so it makes me worried about who his replacement will be.
we need to fix our problems down here first( by using anti-natalism) before spreading the problems to the moon (we are the problem)
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1815084815156498442
>>16291070THEY'RE GOING
>>16291070
>>16291068He will leave with a legacy unmatched. The new president will be the democrat nominee. He will be a young likeable person and Trump won't be able to match him.
>>16291073Pray tell me how a young nominee could find financial backers?
>>16291073blew up the economy, let millions of illegals stream into the country, pushed DEI into everything making the competency crisis even worse, was such a weak leader that multiple wars were started, destroyed the publics trust in government through draconian policies during covid and general censorship and constant lying
>>16291068They have three months to convince the country they are a serious, functioning party after eight years of demonstrating their utter incompetence. They are frantically rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I hope they do seriously run Harris so we can see what a "glass cliff" actually looks like.
Biden to not seek reelection. Trump won.
That's insane.
Why is Elon such a retard?https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815087759838806200
>>16291076plenty of financial backers willing to finance anyone who is running against Trump
>>16291084don't bother, not krystal.
>>16291026>artificial gravity station >2030why has it taken the species this fucking long
lmaoookamala fucking harrisits joever
we're in dire need of some launches, i'll even take suborbital at this point
>>16291084Oh so now his age is irrelevant? It was actually the d33p state cronies pulling the strings!
>>16291090https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933grim as fuck but there's still hope since she has to be selected by the democrat party, just as trump was selected this week
It will be Kamala, not because they want her, but because the money already pledged and donated to Biden can only be used by her now, from a legal stand point. Too much chaos, if it's not her.
>>16291094didnt someone here say the other day that the ticket is going to be harris-kelly? if mark kelly is the vp and the vp is in charge of the national space council, then maybe there's a bright side to all of this.
>>16291098She's an unpopular throwaway scapegoat
>>16291098But I don't like her
>>16291098Brokered convention. Obama people don't like kamala. Will be interesting
>>16291098that's a myth
>>16291084Was it so democratic when no one important run against Biden in their 2024 primaries because of party discipline?
>>16291103>The 2024 Democratic National Convention is scheduled to take place from August 19-22, 2024 in Chicago, Illinois. This will mark the first time Chicago has hosted the Democratic National Convention since 1996.
We know how fond Elon is of Putin these days; he's even repeating Putin's final solution plans for Crimea and Ukraine on Twitter without being asked, probably believing Putin revealed them to him because Putin considers him an important world leader. This thing is about egos and ideology. Musk actually likes Putin and Medvedev because he thinks they're "based" and "tough" and he considers them allies in his fight against liberal "wokists", who in Musk's view destroy everything. And Putin knows this, and he's spurring it on. Putin is Ex-KGB, he knows how to work gullible fools. Injecting distrust and division into western societies is Putin's number one goal, and manipulable narcissists like Musk are a perfect vehicle for that. That's what's happening here. Not business interests.
didn't ask
>>16291085lmao
>>16291108Go eat some more lead
anyone else have this box set growing up and watch the fuck out of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkZvpq1IZ0
>>16291113He probably shouldn't, that looks like the problem he has in the first place.
>>16291113coherent argument
It's afraid. No longer a slam dunk.https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815091075431678146
Faggots who keep posting unrelated news. What is the thrust to wight ration of the articles you posted?
>>16291084https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815088145051873756I don't think he's the retard
>>16291122Musk has made it related by heavily backing one candidate with his platform, words, and money. Should a democrat win they could fuck him over even more in retaliation.
>>16291124Yeah totally not a puppet bro. He's your run of the mill president.
>>16291105JFK ran. He was banned and excluded entirely. Its entirely undemocratic
>>16291126yeah I really REALLY don't get why he thinks its smart to be a MAGAtard all of a sudden. If the Dems win, his reputation and ability to make progress is fucked
>>16291124Did Elon sleep through Trump's first presidency?
https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1814946723921367334China's mars sample return project
it's stupid how even smart people like musk are tricked by the 'homeless people near my place of business = I must vote for Rs' schtick
>>16291126Elon Musk has made a gamble so to speak and he will either win or lose a lot. Thoughts?
>>16291132First to dark side of the moonFirst to return sample from the dark side of the moonFirst to return sample from Mars possibly
>>16291136the problem is he's dipped his toes too deep into the moron tub, I worry he'll scream stolen election if Trump wins>>16291137*FAR side of the moon you spacelet
>>16291126There are a dozen or so lawsuits filed against his companies by democrats right now.
>>16291092Nothing ever happens, and when something happens anyway, we pay it by even more nothing happening afterwards.
>>16291092FAA grounded Falcon9. We've lost the weekly candence.
guys look!
>>16291068>he was okay for spaceflightwas he?I really can't think of anything positive I could point to beside commending for *not* cancelling everything Bridenstine and Trump had started.
>>16291068Byeden
>>16291081Yeah
>>16291068I enjoyed when the boden admin sued spacex for being racist and not hiring more non-americans
>>16291145Even 4chan is participating in the defaming of Musk's image now.
>>16291084He's so retarded he's worth $244 billion. God I wish I was retarded
>>16291145I have adblock specifically so I don't have to look.Companies do not have my consent to advertise at me.
>>16291104no problem!so are most democrat voters
>>16291151You can be smart at one thing and retarded at another
That one of the richest people alive wants to shut Sam down makes me want to hear Sam more.
>>16291156sam who?'is this some EDS schizo shit again?
>>16291135Elon is an empiricistOf course he would act based on observations
Elon has forgotten that it was the Obama-Biden administration that bailed out Tesla in 2009 during the financial crisis.
>>16291135those are the direct result of democrat policies
>>16291159so what? Biden has been nothing but hostile
>>16291159They were bailing out everyone back then, they had bailout fever.
Tourist trap derives from the information asymmetry between tourists and the market.
>>16291105It's an unwritten rule in every democratic nation that you don't run against the current president if he is from your party. Dunno why but probably to stop discord that could make voters lose confidence.
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>president is literally senile and has been senile even before he became president>noo muh democracy!why are americans (both Ds and Rs) so mentally ill? and why are you even talking about this shit in a thread dedicated to space flight?go back to >>>/pol/ you fuckers.
>>16291180space is inherently connected to politics since a government agency (NASA) is the principle driving force behind the most important space project at the moment (Artemis) which hinges on exec branch support
>>16291180non-Americans have no place in spaceflightyou are off topic
>>16291090kamala is a horrible choise :D
>>16291185more than half the posters in this thread are foreigners.
>>16291100is mark kelly old space or new space?Also why does he get 3 space sybians?
>>16291188If they had anything of value to contribute to spaceflight they would have already moved to America.
>>16291156what are you talking about? Anyway if you listen to sam you'll want to listen to sam less.
>>16291190kelly is sane and smart and knows how to play the politics game. He was the pilot on shittle Return To Flight.He was an independent before being a D for Arizona.Would be a fine component POTUS, and would hopefully break us out of this blizzaro politics environment and get the Rs back to running normal people like McCains
>>16291180sorry we don't know what its like to live in a country where you don't get a cool space program no matter who you pick
>>16291156Pajama Sam?
>>16291196I already listen to him and he's pretty based. He even stands on the right side of the race and IQ controversy.
>>16291199Imagine a President whose primary interest for his four (or eight) years in office was enhancing America's presence in space and doing everything possible to expand human settlement off-world.
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>>16291211terrible OP
>>16291211FAA here, I'm grounding this thread until someone makes a new one
>>16291157Sam Hyde. Bill Gates wants to shut him down for speaking the truth
>>16291159And you forgot Tesla paid back in full with interest within few years. Then Biden tried to kill Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, etc.
>>16291228I abide by the FAA's ruling
permission to restage?
>>16291243permission granted
>>16291243The longer you wait the worse it is
>>16291211Activate FTS for this stage
>>16291257>>16291256stage eta 50 s
passing max-qute
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>>16291211Warning to no go to this thread, go to this thread instead >>16291265
>>16291203this was my favorite game as a kid
>>16291072That is the coolest fucking thing ever. SOVLFVL
>>16291108>putin is ex-KGBhe was a pencil pusher loser who hardly ever did anything important when he was in kgb lol, nobody cares, he's revealed himself just to be a gambler who got lucky for a while rather than some genius strategist.also musk is not fond of putin at all, are you mad?
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