Stellar Engine EditiinPrevious - >>16378102
first for Phobos
>>16380173There are much better things, that actually are useful to do with dronswarm than impractical dyson sphere dumbfuckery.Please don't commit another dumbfuckery here.
inb4 an autist bitches about the OP not being a photograph and whines about 'muh scifi'
Second for deimos
>>16380182This is not a dyson sphere or swarm doe
>>16380178fifth for Deimos
>>16380173lol the spacecraft in the thumbnail reminds of of a Cain/Sathanas from Freespace.
>>16380186>>16380184Fail, phobos wins
>>16380184>>16380186kek, moonlets out
>>16380189Cain/Lilith yes, Sathanas has four legsGod I love that game
>>16380185Look at the picture, it literally says it there.
>>16380196The main point of the image is not the dyson 'spheres' is what I meant. No part of them is interacting with the stellar engine
>>16380203?
So what’ll be the international driving standard on the Moon and Mars? Driving on the right, I assume?
>>16380207Nevermind Im stupid I didnt read. Just ignore the sphere and pretend its a swarm I didnt make the graphic
>>16380173I wonder if anybody out there is sailing their solar system around their galaxy
>>16380173please explain to me how moving the sun would not cause all the planets to lose their current orbits?
>takes multiple starship flights (12+) to refuel for moon and 6+ for mars missionsWhy not build a space station at this point? Use the 100 tons to orbit to put up modules to build a station in LEO, then send that to the moon or mars orbit instead of a starship direct approach.You could use station modules currently in development which will launch on starship anyways, like the Airbus loop which has room for growing food as well as a centrifuge for limited artificial gravity. You can just strap some blue moon landers in there too for surface excursions. All that could be done with less launches than it would take to refuel one starship and it would have way more leg room too.
>>16380216The sun is already moving around the galactic center, which is also moving.Why would changing that trajectory destroy the orbits of planets?
>>16380216Sun BIGLots of gravityMove sun, planets followOh wait you said current orbitsShit, theyre gonna get pulled outta wack
>>16380216Isn't the sun currently in motion? Our spiral arm is rotating, all the stuff in it moves too.
>>16380223why are you phrasing it like a question, this is space knowledge 101. If you don’t know the answer go do more research. Would you prefer a K-12 hyperlink like the fags at dynetics needed for ALPACA?
>>16380225You sound bothered.
>>16380218What exactly do you think the propellant depot Starships are...?
>>16380229Yeah sorry that was mean
does Elon know about martian mattresses? does SpaceX?
>>16380219all the far away objects having a gravitational influence on the sun have almost the exact same influence on all the planets in the solar system, so they move together.If you dont give the same influence to every body in the solar system to move then youwill fuck up the solar system. thats why a near encounter of another star would be bad, because it would have a noticeabily stronger influence on outer planets than the sun and fuck up their orbits.
>>16380232>elonNo>spacexLikely one or two fags there knows about it
>>16380223>>16380234
>>16380234You're right, but if we're going by the OP image's scenario then it isn't gravity propelling the sun, but 'pressure' from its energy being fired back at it.
>>16380230Each refueling launch is one launch that could put up 100 tons worth of station modules and cargo. 6+ starship launches would result in a massive space station that could house dozens of people comfortably for the 6 months or so it takes to get to mars and back. Explain to me why they should instead launch fuel into orbit on those 6+ launches.
>>16380173>propel our star - and therefore the entire solar system - forwardthis isn't true, right? if you accelerate the sun in any particular direction, the planets won't be affected at all. their orbits would change once the sun has moved and eventually fall into the sun or get lost into interestellar space but that's it
>>16380231All good anon>>16380234We need a defense system out in the Oort cloud to destroy any rogue stars heading our way.
>>16380240how does that make a differencethough? delta v is delta v no matter what causes it
How's that Elon Musk cock rocket to Mars going ladies? Almost 2025 and still nothing from your false god monorail salesman. What gives Elon sisters? Two more launches? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM
>>16380252i wish mars was habitable. truth is just look at it. it aint habitable. parts of earth like northern russia are 100x more habitabe tha mars. warmer, wetter, you canliterally go outside and breath the air and find biomass to eat. yet they aredeserted because they are too hard to inhabit. so how will we colonize mars again?
>>16380252Fuck off namecel YWNGTS
>>16380230they are fiction because they dont exist.
>>16380257Pussies wish for something. Men work towards it. If you truly want it to be habitable, set your sights onto that goal
>>16380261idont wish for it THAT much. i only want it to be the case because it makes expansion into space easier, but Iwill go with whatever is the most feasible path. I guess jef and his space colonies is the way to go.
>>16380263Jeff will never launch quick enough or be able to lift enough to support a colony of any sort. Even a simple spin station is out of his reach
>>16380264Is it hard to have birds in this species selection? Is there a scarce amount of a certain species that helps us to experience such a selection?
>>16380264jef will win the moon and already has patents for thousands of weird moon industry things (which hopefully he wont just sit on forever). his archietecture of having a dedicated reusable lunar lander is simply better. starship is not a good lunar lander and hls wont be reusable
>>16380283(you)
Is it over?
>>16380295Give it 14 more days
why are we talking about mars when we dont even have a moon base yet? why focus on that paticular desolate empty desert of shit when we have our own little one much closer to us. could it be that musk is hyping mars to boomers because they have nostalgia about the moon and want a "next step" to feel like all those many hours of toil they spent to fund nasas boy slaves and adrenachrome feasts was worth it?
>>16380298I know, it's silly
>>16380298kek
>>16380298I wish the money spent on """earth""" """sciences""" would equal zero.
is this guy white?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgZRyeNAa0A
>>16380306He's transwhite
>>16380243Did you forget that the massive space station would need way more fuel than a single starship?
>>16380221It's fine. You can't appreciably accelerate the sun anyway.
>>16380232Elon used to sleep on an air mattress. He knows.
>>16380317he’s also kind of a fag so I’m sure he’s entertained stupid ideas such as that
>>16380317translation: 'harder Elon, ahaaaaw
>>16380245our universe uses somewhat finer time granularity than you seem to imagine
>>16380322You don't even know what we're talking about, you stupid fag.
>>16380324infinitesimally small? nta just wondering if there’s any discrete measurement of time. A quantized measurement
>>16380328two weeks
>>16380328It's small enough that you don't have to worry about the planets suddenly noticing the Sun is gone.That's literally what Wiley E. Coyote does.
>>16380332Okay yeah but information/gravity is only affected at the speed of light so: hypothetically, let’s say we magically had a way to start accelerating the Sun perpendicular to the solar system plane. Mercury would be the first to “notice” it. Then venus, then earth, then mars, etc etc. The planets, TNOs, kuiper belt, oort cloud wouldn’t suddenly all move “up” at the same time
>>16380332>.I'm finally doing guys. it specialCloud cross limit
>>16380337Checking if there are more.
Billy's sort of helicopter and manic-ness is a type associated with a brand better than final fantasy that wasn't here.
>>16380343>>16380341>>16380337Schizoid
Info, nowI expect at least not meagor attempts at cross communication, no fags
PLEASE
https://x.com/ToughSf/status/1834925064682344759?t=lFQObT1A6dBiUSigbsfg4Q&s=19Fuck you and your microgravity hydroponics
>>16380383What the fuck do these axes even mean
>>16380383so which NFTs should I be buying?
launch license status?
>>16380383
>>16380400ok so put it in a little centrifuge.plants wont give a fuck about the differential acceleration from tip to toe.
>>16380396Held hostage
>>16380396Obstructed by communists
>>16380414Good.You're close then.My command will be good.I can create us as that fortitude high up I spake of, but even better than that. And more. And you'll like it. I'll need great interest so prepare to invest. (It can be kept in your bank, but I need lots of incoming money to work with).
>>16380403Airbus loop friend. Trust the loop
Never forgethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTCjx5DEPkE
https://x.com/deltaIV9250/status/1834993360844546502Neat. Manned Jupiter sattelite dispersal mission when?
>>16380324sorry but what does that mean? if you move the sun our planet's orbit has to change because the center of mass of the system has moved, no? and if it moves enough eventually the orbit will become unstableplease explain like i'm dumb
>>16380451Shut up fag we also discussed this 2 or 3 threads ago
>>16380466? why so mad? i dont remember this those threads ago. i do remember incandescent rage, which i guess fits you well.
>>16380466Discussions are reusable
>>16380466...also the tweet was only 2 ish hours ago wtf do you mean "we" discussed it
>>16380466>>16380480based relativistic poster
>>16380466I think this also the fag that's been advertising his xitter account here.
Not trying to be a hater but my Xitter timeline is being spammed by polaris posting and I’ve probably now seen that stupid image of sarah gillis and the dearmoon violin render from 40 different random accounts at this point. Fuck off elon I get it
>>16380337>>16380341are you okay?
>>16380499Relight the engine bugmen annoy me
>>16380501Imagine the smell...
>>16380494>>16380489if you say xitter, you use xe and ximi dont make the rules
>>16380505fuck off im not here to appease you I call it that because I don’t want to type out “X/twitter” and I don’t want to choose between the two
>>16380383>>16380400Okay? Just build three times as much.
>>16380499Amazing bravery shown from those 2 employees standing on the pad as the landing rocket lowered its nozzle right over them. You won't see this kind of landing precision and confidence from spacex.
>>16380518Slight chuckle
>>16380499lol, reminds me of cell absorbing the androids
>>16380306>quality animations>clear and concise arguments founded in reality>no ebonics to be heardwhite in my book
>>16380460Think of someone spinning a small weight on a string around their head, the person can easily walk around keeping the weight spinning in exactly the same way.
>>16380173can we keep faggy comic bookish junk like that where it belongs instead of fagging up /sfg/?>>>/lit/23807402/sfg/ is about actual space flight that is legitimately taking place, not about the stupid soience fiction fantasy world that was implanted in your brain by hollyweird pedos
>>16380524>rocket vore
>>16380546That’s not a 1:1 comparison
On Mars you can bring something like Ingenuity to scout out areas. A reconnaissance drone.How would you do this on the Lunar surface? I imagine you’d need something a lot bigger with a propellant tanks that “bursts” itself into arcing hops and images the area one hop at a time or something. Is this overthinking it?
>>16380550It's one jpg that you have to see for ~0.35 seconds (roughly 1.45x10^-10%) of your entire life before scrolling down and reading the thread
>>16380565no atmosphere, just get into a very very low orbit
>>16380565maybe like a repurposed raytheon ekv
>>16380565Google Earth, but for the moon. Google Moon, if you will.>A full-body scan of the entire moon, achieved via a network of satellites distributed a la Starlink, each achieving a resolution of 900 sqcm per pixel, or roughly 1 sqft per pixelWith no pesky atmosphere keeping our eyes in the lunar sky away from their rightful clay, we shall map, recon, and note every last rock on that natural satellite. It shall be ours for the viewing, and for the taking.Also a lot of satellites is still cheaper than a big leapfrogging rover.
https://x.com/globalnews/status/1834731071860060533
>>16380585https://globalnews.ca/news/10754874/telesat-lightspeed-canada-quebec-billions/
>>16380586https://x.com/MikeBarrettON/status/1834933124834177525
>>16380588https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1835045977008619564
Learn to stitch your twitter images into one fucking post, retard
>>16380594whats the point?
>>16380565I wonder how much air-time you could get with an ultralight little drone on the order of soccer ball size that used nitrogen thrusters. Hell, what about disposable off-the shelf CO2 cartridges? With lunar gravity you might be able to have the thing complete decently big circuit around you or a point-investigation and return on just a couple cartridges.
>>16380598Something like this?
>>16380599Basically, but much smaller. The guts of a cellphone and one or two more instruments attached to a thruster array, all enclosed in a wireframe ball made with little carbon fiber struts for impact resistance.Something you could clip to your suit on an EVA, program a route on the spot, and toss the little guy up to go fly it.
>>16380489It is that same namefag btw hes being very annoying again with the self advertising and is just reposting /sfg/ discussions
>>16380606Sketch it out anon, this idea merits it.
>>16380599What game is this, looks cool.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-13/musk-s-starlink-in-talks-with-south-africa-to-introduce-service>“I have had discussions with him and have said, Elon, you become so successful and you’re investing in a variety of countries, I want you to come home and invest here,” Ramaphosa told reporters in Pretoria. “He and I are going to have a further discussion.” >Companies operating in South Africa also require a degree of Black ownership in an effort to redress inequities stemming from apartheid. Alternative arrangement can be made after talks with the government.
>>16380606Make oc of this sounds like a cool concept. I like when anons share their ideas that rotary city from last thread was good example. I try and make my own every so often
>>16380612https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMU6l6GsdM&t=2s&ab_channel=theworacle
>>16380585This faggot is putting $2 billion of Canadian's tax dollars behind "Elon bad"
>>16380173>Stellar Engine Editiinobligatory>>>/lit/sffg/
>>16380621Oh shit this is real? The quality was so bad I thought it was a game kek
>>16380585Who are they launching with kek
>>16380585What's the point of Canada?
>>16380626Yes but that other anon I discussed this with said that having flashy tech that catches the eye of posters is what encourages activity on the general and also leads to better discussions as the OP sets the tone of the discussion. Im fine with taking this criticism but what I observed in the threads following my conversation with him was that he was right that flashy/futuristic tech does improve thread quality.
>>16380586How is there even still a rural internet market after Starlink?
Isn't it strange how Musk got a special treatment in China?
>>16380624partly yes but partly also subsidizing a Canadian satellite telecom company Telesat Lightspeed, a LEO constellation, has been in the works since 2016https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesat#Lightspeed_LEO_constellation
>>16380640Tesla has tech they want, I don't think its really more than thatif China thinks they can outcompete or copy the tech and don't need Tesla anymore, the special treatment will stopthis has happened with other western companies in the past
>>16380627The gif itself is probably from 2008 or so, I think I originally saved it from /b/ when it was alive.
>>16380635Canada has so many trees, they make the best toilet paper. If there is anything Canada is a true LEADER in, its toilet paper.They really should team up with India (maybe this already happened, in a sense?) because of the natural symbiosis.I have been to MANY US/Canadian border towns, from BC all the way to Quebec, and every goddamn one of them has a gigantic, stinky paper mill, churning out billions of rolls of ass wipe, presumably for export.I'm not even kidding, all of this is true, this is their purpose on Earth.
>>16380666They also have so many indians.Maybe I can use canadarm to wipe my ass!
>>16380635Something to do with leaves, presumably.
>>16380666TP is bulky and inefficient to ship really far, usually it's produced not far from where it's used. We learned about this in 2020 when Australia's media triggered panic buying.
>>16380546what if i start running very fast? i would need to compensate with my arm, otherwise the weight would fall no? there has to be some acceleration where the orbit becomes more and more elliptic like a comet instead of a planet, and where the star would go too fast for the planet to ever catch up and overtake to make the next turn
>>16380666Allow me to rephrase the question: What is the point of Canada being an independent nation?
>>16380675You need somewhere to put all the Canadians.
>>16380400>Nasa cant even grow plantsAnd they want to go to a Moon?
>>16380677They aren't even a real nation. It's just a bunch of English and French, and now a lot of jeets.
>>16380400this is why we do research TM
>>16380681This is one of those things NASA will spend 20 years / $10 billion dollars on, and at the end of the day it will be something obvious that a pothead indoor weed grower could have told them.Just like their stupid campaign to figure out bone density retention via different work out methods.
>>16380635Space for indians (both kinds) to live
>>16380686Dried worm castings, bat guano and fish fertilizer.
>>16380668>Maybe I can use canadarm to wipe my ass!Canadarm4 series and beyond are planned to have ass-wiping capability. This comes in handy when suited up, and in a precarious small space in zero G. That ass ain't gonna wipe itself, thus the need for Canadarm4®™See, it takes participation from unexpected innovators to reach Mars. Its not all rocket science, there are other needs to attend.
>>16380585oh so now kessler syndrome and angry astronomers are not a problem anymore, how convenient
>>16380703It’s so easy to recognize thailand from orbit with those green lights
>>16380703why green lights? why red lights?
>>16380696We don't hate journalists enough.
>>16380703a screenshot of this would make for a good OP
>>16380696Don't forget falling debris landing on Canadian citizens. This time, they can overlook it, because they putting all remote First Nations reservations online, where they will quickly take to shitposting about "these lands are sacred", is so much more important. Brave Chief Mouthwash had a vision about this, Justin Trudeau responds in kind.
>>16380712Where's his head? spooky
>>16380709Thai fishing boats. Green light attracts plankton and fish, which in the attracts squid for the catch.
>>16380624Not really, the Quebec government already uses Starlink for remote communities. This is just about fostering a domestic industry
>>16380710there are some good journos, like eric berger
>>16380400i thought kudzu grew faster in zero gee
>>16380666This made me realize, Mars will need to be bidets only. What are some other lifestyle quirks that'll be induced by the constraints of Mars?
>>16380713As the poster of the webm, fuck that, make this the OP>>16380712
>>16380650>Tesla has tech they want, I don't think its really more than thatThen a joint venture would have been even more advantageous, the special treatment that Tesla got was not having to set up a JV.>if China thinks they can outcompete or copy the tech and don't need Tesla anymore, the special treatment will stopBYD already outcompetes Tesla, and they haven't stopped it. CATL is and has always been the battery provider for Tesla in China so it's not like they're innovating much there.
>>16380721women will be married of when they are 9 years old
>>16380725In Mars years, right? Haha
>>16380725you mean mars years, r-right?
>>16380727>>16380728hivemind
>>16380724more advantageous to China yes, but maybe Tesla would not have set up in China at all if that was the requirementthe tech I'm talking about is not batteries, but stuff like gigacasting, which chinese companies are now copying quickly while western car makers are pretty far behind
>>16380721Reusable ass wipes are a thing, Mars could have a TP laundry service, an indestructible woven mineral cloth can be closed-cycle washed and sterilized, fully automated. With nuclear power and a will to do it, this is simply an engineering exercise to create. SpaceX is probably already working on it
>>16380721Somebody add "asswipe" to the slurs list.
>>16380739yet the guy ultimately making the sunlight (biggest and best rocket ever) is heavily invested in the shadow of the cave (politics)
>>16380739Where is Saddam?
>>16380735>Alright welcome to Mars, here's your indestructible mineral cloth to rub on your asshole
>>16380739Based Im saving this thank you for the OC
>>16380744The ones still stuck in the cave are dragging him by his feet back in
>>16380744musk had the unfortunate problem of getting redpilled while being very famous. if he went through a redpill phase as a teenager and young adult like a normal person he would have already long given up on politics and know not to get involved in the circus. but instead he is bomabrded by propaganda and falls for it
>>16380755I've always wondered, how did he not go through a redpill phase while living in South fucking Africa
>>16380400realistically mars astronauts need to learn to eat algae slop that's grown with their poop and pee.
>>16380760>be me>white south african>see my parents' magnum opus>gemeraldmine.slavelabor>grow up thinking they were slaves and such>move to america>slaves be free n shitFrankly, he should've gotten redpilled on Ellis Island
>>16380764They'll eat corn fed cows
>>16380611>>16380617An extremely basic sketch. Obviously the thruster orientation wouldn't be straight up and down like that, I've abstracted the throttle control area as one big blob, I didn't even render the sensor//computer area opposite the CO2 tanks, etc. You get the idea. The cluster of cartridges would ideally be hot-swappable as an entire unit, the gist being that you could pre-load a few fuel hubs and only screw/unscrew one big assembly while on the EVA instead of every fiddly little tank.I also only vaguely know how to do some of the stuff required to actually build this, but I may try to slap together some prototypes and figure it out along the way.
>>16380760I guess he went through a rebel countercultural phase, but because he lived in a 'backward' ethnostate he became a libtard futurist
>>16380776this
>>16380769Ummm based department line 1
>>16380751This, but aerospace-grade, highly engineered, reusable Dude Wipes, made specifically for off-planet use. Because we know, Mars is for men, Venus is for women. Mars should be an upgrade, not a downgrade, in quality of life.If you know, you know.Mint & Chill, extra large wipes, let it rip. A luxury for some, a necessity for cultured space residents.Remember, Mars food is going to lack fiber, and be fully synthetic, the shits out there will be unreal. Dude Wipes are a requirement.
>>16380782faggot
>>16380782cringe consoomer
>>16380769That hoop design reminded of that super jumping robot that uses elastics. I can imagine an org like JAXA sending up something like that.
>>16380782why does it have essential oils? does your anus really need to absorb mint and eucalyptus oils while you scrape shit off your ass? am i missing out?
>>16380788Have you tried it? A life-changing experience awaits you.Happy anus = happy astronaut. Lets quiz the Polaris Dawn crew about this upon return to Earth, they know.These are a gift from God when showering is impossible.
>>16380787Holy shit you wouldn’t need propellant on a simple device that uses spring tension on the Moon. How high could you realistically lob something like this? It could be pretty simple, as another anon suggested—no more massive than a smart phone. A couple of cameras, software for mapping 3D on each hop. A motor that pulls it into tension and hops it again. You could do gyros for stability but honestly you could skip that and just have a weighted bottom so it always lands on the same side ready to spring hop again
>>16380782>>16380791this is up there with the dragon erotica.
>>16380798if you seriously think a cite anime girlification of the dragon capsule is erotica, you're coombrained to high hell
>>16380782Youre using this shit on your ass? Thats weird. Youre weird. Those arent meant to be flushed either it builds up massive shit stinking clogs in the sewer and in septic tanks. Feels like youre shilling this also. Use regular toilet paper, not this weird shit that makes your ass 'feel good' (gay sounding btw)
>itt: anon says he wants his ass to feel good and gets angry when called out for being homosexual
>>16380800You're too new to remember the /sfg/ dragon erotica writer.
>>16380783>>16380784>>16380788>>16380798>>16380802Don't you newfags know, shitting is space is a REAL issue? Its not like this problem will just solve itself.We need REAL solutions.In space, this system will be fully reusable, and totally worth it. Have some goddamn vision and entrepreneurial spirit.
>>16380792I went back to the video where I learned of this and saw they actually thought of using it to explore the moon. I had completely forgotten that they mentioned that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daaDuC1kbds>weighted bottom so it always lands on the same side ready to spring hop againIn the video they've also got a variant with 3 legs that orients the craft so it can hop in your desired direction
>>16380809Piss will be filtered, as it already is, and shit will be used as fertilizer for marscrops. Bring earthdirt if you must, but we cannot survive on mars if we do not grow food there, and using our own shit as fertilizer isn't even a new concept.
>>16380809I agree that shitting will be a logistical problem, but flexing your dude wipes isn't based lol
>>16380809The solution, fag, is to have your shit vacuumed so it can be used as fertilizer. It is easier to break down if its paper instead of cloth, fag.
>>16380816>soijaker is right for onceRare occurance
>>16380812Fuck I thought >we were on to something original here. It feels like all good ideas have already been thought through :(
>>16380819Kek I deleted to not shit up the thread but it was the first thing that came to my mind
>>16380383SPIN NIGGASPIIIIIN
>>16380820Fail greentext everyone laugh at this anon
>>16380825stupid frogposter it was done on purpose
>>16380822WHAT WAS THE DELETED FILE?
>>16380827Soipost about tools like that other anon that buy any 'manly' marketed products
>>16380816>>16380817Not promoting a brand, just a space based ass-wiping system.Having monkey butt on a space station, starship in transit, or off-planet colony is a serious medical risk to the entire crew. Do you want e.coli outbreaks on the way to, or on Mars, the Moon, or a space station?That's right, I didn't think so. Stupid dumbasses. The space version will be an engineered high-temp tolerant fiber fabric, strong as fuck, can be closed cycle rinsed, then heat sterilized, and reused. They will look like new for thousands of uses, mark my words.Now you all can fuck off, I will not share my secrets anymore, but instead capitalize on my ideas and bring it to fruition. I will be rich, and you will still be shitposting on /sfg/
>>16380830>monkey buttYou probably have some kind of STD
>>16380830Your mint scented gay wipes that 'make your ass feel good' usage and creation of fertilizer. Just admit youre insecure about yourself and you like taking it up the ass anon and we can all move on after laughing at (You)
>>16380837Impede the usage and creation*
>>16380830Go ahead and wipe my ass bro lol
The only person that would ever know its minty is the person eating out your ass which only faggots like. You are shilling wipes targeted at closeted faggots that want to pretend to be straight.
This is the gayest thread in a while
Imagine an astronaut bringing a pack of these along with their personal belongings and tossing one of them 'flushable' wipes and clogging the piss pump.
>>16380843And its gay because of one shill.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1835022281812459530
>>16380849Ok so we now have internet everywhere on the planet and in orbit very nice.
>>16380263If you build a space colony on the surface of Mars , you have free resources and you don't have to spin it
>>16380509>I don’t want to choose between the twoJust call it X because that's what it is
>>16380856Nope
>>16380631Because everyone else ignored you, here is the answerIn 2019, Telesat contracted with Blue Origin on their New Glenn rocket and Relativity Space with their Terran 1 rocket, for satellite launches to their LEO constellation.In 2020, Telesat filed plans for expanding the satellite count to its LEO constellation to over 1,600 satellites. In November 2020, Telesat announced that it will become publicly traded on the American stock index NASDAQ in mid-2021.In July 2023, LEO 3 satellite was launched.In September 2023, Telesat announced a new contract with SpaceX for 14 launches with up to 18 satellites on each launch for the Lightspeed constellation, starting in mid-2026
>>16380614>Alternative arrangement can be made after talks with the government.it begins
>>16380820Keep workshopping it, just because someone's thought of a thing it doesn't mean that you can't do it better, or first.
>>16380849>starlink lasers can track objects moving at high velocitysoon
>>16380845its gay because OP is a faggot anime meme tier garbage like whats in OP should be kept on /co/ or /a/ or >>>/lit/sffg/ or on reddit where it belongs.
>>16380812This is an ideal contract for Boing
Guys I accidentally flushed my indestructible ass-wiping mineral clothWhat the fuck do I do? I can't call it in, my supervisor will tear me a new one
>>16380875Dude, its not your problem
The Bidet is the peak of ass washing technology anyway. It is a tragedy that the anglosphere has not embraced them.
>>16380817to encourage people to donate fertilizer to the mars colony i think the shit vaccuumer should feel good to sit on. it should rim the ass gently which it sort of already does, but there should be a massage and licking function. once all the shit is extracted itshould brobably fuck the ass until the user gets up.
>>16380878On Mars, water will be scarce, so some other substance will be used, probably compressed carbon dioxide
>>16380883so you will kill the user if they dont get off the bidet in time?
>>16380878they're weird and gay bro, aint tryna get fucked in the ass by water jets
>>16380550>/sfg/ is about actual space flight that is legitimately taking placeLike Mars colonisation, orbital refuelling, and rapidly reusable starship
>>16380878How the fuck is a bidet going to work in zero G?Wipes it is.
>>16380888it would feel soooo good though.
>>16380892Can you imagine, atomized shit droplets floating throughout the station
>>16380892>poo water going everywhere>gets in your mouththey do this on Earth too btw
>>16380887starship is never going to do anything rapidly as long as the communists and ecoterrorists in government are allowed to try to abuse their offices to enforce social media censorship which they have no legal authority over
>>16380460The kind of device being described lacks the power output to move the sun in a jerky way. The sun will only very gradually accelerate and its motion will be negligible compared to the motion of the planets. Nothing will be disturbed, in the same way you don't notice continental drift in your everyday life.
>>16380895I don't even leave the toilet seat up when I flush, I've seen the fallout pattern from toiletwater droplet ejecta.
sfg - POOP general
>>16380505I call it X because Elon named it.Perhaps Elon is not worthy of being idolized, but if he isn't then who is?If you say Jeff your mother will die in her sleep.
>india cant find any women who want to be female astronautsOH NO NO NO i wonder why indian women wouldnt want to be alone in a tin can with indian men far away from any help
>>16380636i'm the guy you were talking about btw.i also mostly meant that as in when there's nothing interesting in actual spessflight happening.sometimes there's these dry periods with no launches or interesting in-space habbenings or developmental updates for rocket hardware on the ground, and it's spacex has spoiled the patience that spaceflight autists used to have 10 years ago, when something interesting might happen once a month at best.so i find far flung future megaproject stuff to be a great filler OP for when we are in one of those dry periods.
>>16380894>>16380895>>16380902Aerosols containing bacteria/viruses are fucking scary when you think about the ramifications. Especially in space, since Starship has only 1 km3 of cabin volume. Other vehicles have much less than that.This is why you DO NOT wash the chicken with the sprayer in the sink.
>>16380885yeah because fingering your ass with TP isnt gay at all, you faggot.
>>16380585>government project>in Canada>in Quebec>competing with an existing monopoly>competing with a company that has outperformed superpowersWhy don't they just burn the money?
>>16380223Imagine if we lived in a post collision era where our star system was yeeted into the void. Interstellar travel is already difficult in a dense galaxy but imagine the closest star is millions of lightyears away. Spooky.>>16380865Never trust alternative gvt arrangements, the risk is high that they are reneged.
>>16380703i see tiberium is spreading
>>16380908Recruit one white male astronaut for their space program to solve this problem.
>>16380915Extragalactic star systems must be some pretty fucking lonely places.
https://x.com/jjfactorykat/status/1835031746146189383
>>16380912I already know youre a fucking freak, you dont have to prove it
>>16380905Not going to go into a whole discussion about it but there can be things you respect about a man and things you have to look past, ignore, be perpetually uncomfortable with, etc.Elon is up there with von Braun (in terms of being based)—but likewise while Elon doesn’t have an SS past or isn’t Luth*ran, he did feed his child hormone blockers and he is extremely reddit lol. Even still, I like him, and him buying twitter certainly saved it from Vijaya Gadde and the other libtard power-hungry sycophants willing to block anyone with conservative views. But he can’t come in and just change it to “X” that is so larpy. It’s Twitter. It was always twitter.I’ll ride or die with him for the Mars Project but I am NOT calling it ‘X’ I’m sorry it’s just so dumb
>>16380902Its a lot like when a space object strikes another celestial body at high speed. There is a ray pattern of ejecta formed
>>16380921Damn she's still at SpaceX? I remember her from the ancient webcasts .
>>16380912>thinks everyone folds toilet paper so thin his hand rips thruWhat is wrong with you?
>>16380925Her bio says SpaceX-Vice President, Customer Operations and Integration.I'm more interested in SpaceX food services.
>>16380924This, only on your toothbrush and soap dispenser and the handle for the sink faucet, and that towel you thought was clean.
>>16380929What's the problem? Aren't most immune disorders caused by overly hygienic lifestyle? Some exposure to pathogens is a good thing.
>>16380913They are paying SpaceX to launch Canadian-made satellites on reusable Falcon 9s, with their own ground stations, for sovereign use by Canada under their rules (once in space, full control by Canada). This is okay with me, smarter than other government money pits, like Ariane 6, which cant accomplish things like constellations. They outsourced the launch costs, unlike the stupid ESA, and NASA's SLS.
>>16380878Don't they blast asshole water straight onto your balls? That sounds horrible.
>>16380782I'd rather just install a bidet.
Eliminate elimination as a biological requirement.
>>16380901>in the same way you don't notice continental drift in your everyday life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3618dZoiaPE
>>16380624Yes and Biden gov claims Starlink is both fake and not working and a monopoly at the same time.
>>16380922>>16380926This thread has been infiltrated by big toilet paper.
>>16380614>>16380865Nothing burgertrannyberg is nothing but hit pieces and fud speculations
>>16380928>her pfp..it's nothing - just a little tired.
>>16380928>SpaceX food servicesTurkish goulash
>>16380934>Ariane 6Is that just another slight upgrade of von Braun's Aggregat 8 design like the Ariane 5 was?Imagine how wonderful the European space program would currently be if Hitler had won. He was already 20 years ahead of everyone else in the 1940s, and since we're just now starting to exit the half century long post Apollo setback, that means Hitler would be 70 years ahead of what we've currently got and that doesn't even factor in nazi Germany's demonstrated ability to bring new technology into action quicker.
>>16380921is that hawk tuah?
>>16380947Baseless alt history speculation. They would have been squeezed out of supply chains regardless, and ultimately nuked no matter what.It’s like asking what if the CSA won the civil war, would the Confederate States of America now have the ultimate space program because they would have Florida, TX, all the gulf coast production facilities, etc.? It doesn’t matter because the CSA loses in any scenario so there’s no point in speculating.
>>16380888>>16380947>Imagine how wonderful the European space program would currently be if Hitler had wonConsidering that Von Braun had to trick Hitler into supporting him, probably not that far
>>16380947Aggregat 8 was a stretched A4, and none of the Aggregats incorporated staging, let alone parallel staging.
>>16380952This. Germany's rocketry program was only developed because it was sold as a way to magically bypass western air dominance.
>>16380953thats because staging is straight up retarded.
>>16380952Yup based WvB. I read an online article a few years ago (and I’ve been trying to track it down again recently) that detailed von Braun personally meeting with Hitler and convincing him to keep the V1 program online. Begged him, made up statistics and reasons for its importance. Von Braun was so fucking based it’s unreal. Driven purely by autism and love of the game.
>>16380947Moon landing by 1955, Venus flyby by 1960, boots on Mars by '65. Lunar population in 1985: 500+
>>16380913>competing with an existing monopolyIt's a foreign company they don't have to compete with it if they don't want to
>>16380955V-weapons were fucking based, along with the Paris gun and other awesome ventures.Hitler wasn't that dumb.
>>16380959A manned venus flyby would still be based, we should do it simply because we can
>>16380964Hard agree, just go see it up close for the hell of it, not through some camera but for real.
>>16380904
>>16380964>>16380965This is a tourist trip only, there is nothing humans can do or see during a Venus flyby that robots cant do 1000X better.But, its still cool, eventually will happen. But, just to be the first, not to accomplish anything real.
>>16380969that’s my point. Do it first. Have the fame and glory. Ensure the history books record an American flag going first and not some pajeet or chink mission.It would be shorter than a Mars flyby, so it could be a good way to test Starship for a year in deep space while also getting to snag a historic first
>>16380969>This is a tourist trip onlyThere is nothing wrong with that, and I'm tired of that being the assumption due to budgetary concerns.
>>16380970>>16380973I say allow the lesser nations do stupid things, just for a participation trophy. We have real goals in mind. Its not like they can land, plant a flag, get samples, or even orbit, just a simply flyby and return... so it, kinda gay, on par with climbing Mt Everest in current year.But, some billionaire will probably do it first, lol
>>16380969Bro, who says it's solely tourism? Starship's big enough that we could pack 10-20 probes akin to Venera 13 and mass deploy them once we're in Venus orbit. Starship multitaskes
>>16380959>>16380947as usual, people with no understanding of history speak about it confidently
>>16380976>flew by Venus, looked down, was the first human being to lay eyes on the world from up close unaided by a lense, nbd not really important
In another universe OTF5 would have launched by now.
>>16380979wow, featureless white clouds, what a view.Id rather orbit the fucking moon up close, at least there is beauty.
>>16380981they're good looking featureless white clouds though
>>16380976You’re the same type of faggot willing to brush off China getting a mars sample return before us. You either have ambition for the entire realm of space, or you’re a weak loser wiling to trade goals and wins. What if the US sat on its ass and figured they flew man around the Moon first so the CCCP landing on the Moon was fine and dandy? You’re an idiot
>>16380980In another universe OFT6 would've launched by now.>>16380981>wow, featureless white clouds, what a view.Yes.
>>16380986Faggot cant read. I said we get to Mars and other, usable solar system assets FIRST. That is the priority, some other faggot country or billionaire can flyby Venus and learn nothing doing it.
>>16380980In a better universe flight 5 would've launched in 2022.
How feasible is it to make a modular space station from multiple connected starships, fuel them up in Earth orbit and fill them with supplies, then boost them on a multi year trip to wherever we want, with removable starships for landings? ISS already demonstrated that people can live in space for over a year just fine, so this setup would be even more comfortable than ISS, and it's just a mobile station to wherever you want to go, with optional return to Earth orbit after a few years to resupply and exchange people. Sounds much comfier than spending multiple years in a single starship. Could even make it rotate for some artificial gravity.
>>16380990We have the luxury of not having to choose one or the other, you know.
>>16380993In a perfect world, yes, its would be USA across the leaderboard of every possible achievement.In reality, every Starship launch will mater for the critical path, no time for low value missions.
>>16380635It's a buffer state that prevents Alaska from invading by land.
>>16381004Oh so an entity like SpaceX only has time and resources to do one thing like fly Starship? They can’t also do other things like, oh I don’t know, try to perpetually shatter the rocket booster reuse record and develop other things such as Dragon 2 viewing domes and EVA suits and EVA rails.Sorry if this response is a bit petty but I’m just trying to drive home the fact that, yes, you can do a fucking Venus flyby and still focus on lunar landings and Starlink and a Mars colony. And that’s just using ONE (1) company as an example. There’s also NASA with SLS, if it never dies. And probably maybe blue origin if they ever get off their ass. But even discounting them—you can do a venus flyby through starship and not “detract” from Mars
>>16380666Indians literally do not use toilet paper.
>>16380976>...get samples...There's only three real challenges to Venusian sample collection: Pressure, Getting back into orbit, and Temperature.>PressureUsing wikipedia numbers (its quick and easy), we're dealing with 92 atmospheres of pressure. This isn't insurmountable, as not only do we reguarly go deeper than that in our own oceans, it isn't even that deep comparatively. Sources vary, but most military subs are capable of a depth equal or greater than the Venusian equivalent, aka 920 meters below the surface. So, we just gotta send a fucking submarine, lol.>Back to OrbitWhile it is true that we have reguarly sent shit to Venus, it is only some of the things we didn't drop onto Venus that have come back. Venus is massive, compared to the other two inner planets we haven't stepped on yet, with a gravity of 8.87 m/s squared, and its atmosphere would require us to send a probe capable of having over 27 km/s of usable Delta-V when it lands. In essence, we gotta land a fully fueled ship, capable of surviving Venus's atmosphere, just to get it back.>TemperatureVenus is the hottest planet in the solar system, at 464 degrees Celsius. Thankfully, we have an alloy capable of surviving not just the insane heat, but also the stupid fucking dissolved sulfuric acid the air has: Stainless steel. Jet fuel can't melt it, and neither can Venus, and it's corrosion resistant as well.>What do we need to do?In essence, we must bring a second spacecraft, made of stainless steel and rated to a depth of 1000 meters below Earth's oceans, with enough fuel to launch itself back into orbit, and yet also capable of landing itself and carrying a probe made to sample Venus's surface. That's a tall ask, yes, but I think it could be done within the next 50 years or so. We know, roughly, Venus's atmospheric composition, and could make gas chambers capable of testing our probe ferries, as well as testing our remote equipment under high temperatures. Don't want our comms to die.
>>16380712me in the middle
>>16381018A venus sample return is completely within the realm of possibility if that’s what you’re wondering. And yes I mean terra firma, rock, hard samples; not just an air sample return mission.
>>16380739okay, now this is based
>>16380782you're making San Francisco bathhouses look straight by comparison
>>16381017Well that explains the smell
>>16381004>In a perfect world, yes, its would be USA across the leaderboard of every possible achievementWhy? The reason why Elon is so successful is because he is probably the best resource allocator in the world. Doing stupid shit for no reason is how you end up in dysfunctional recession like Europe.
>>16381018Funnily enough, remaking the Block 5 F9 with half-meter thick SAE 904L steel and strapping it to a starship should be good enough for the purposes of this mission. Pressure, temperature, and corrosion resistant enough for the hour or two needed to get the sample and gtfo, and able to actually leave Venus. Of course, getting it to Venus is another question entirely.
>>16380875>my supervisor will tear me a new onecover your ass with indestructible cloth of some kind
>>16380964>>16380965flyby is the spaceflight version of cuckoldryyou just get to watch
>>16380961>Hitler wasn't that dumb.>when your men are scrambling to rustle up enough gasoline to burn your body before the country you stupidly invaded four years earlier can get a hold of it after you committed suicide to beat their steady advanceYeah, he was dumb as fuck. Von Braun was the smarty, retard.
>>16381016You are forgetting all the hundreds of refueling missions required, launch cadence, launch and catch sites, endless lawfare, political obstruction, environmentalists, and soccer moms being NIMBYs, complaining about sonic booms, the imminent danger of accidents, it goes on and on. Trump will lose and cant help at all, Elon is hated widely. Our only chance is a savior like Australia being bros and providing a mega launch site in BFE, or better yet, offshore launch platforms.The first significant accident, or deaths, will halt everything.This is a HUGE uphill battle, delays will mount, not the fault of SpaceX at all.EVERY launch permitted will be of utmost importance, and Elon's scalability to massive cadence will be squashed by the powers that be. He will only get 20 or 30 a year, and fail as a result.
>>16381045Why’d you dump your blackpill fantasy on me anon good grief, go have a drink or two
I'd like to see a venitian atmosphere sample return mission. I think that could be pretty cool.
Wake up babe, new NOTAM just dropped
I think Venusian atmospheric sampling is gay
>>16381047>VenitainVenusian
>>16381058Wrong! we're bringing samples back from italy
>>16381055Fake and gay show me the link or its caca
>>16381055Nice, wonder if any pilots will get pictures
>>16381060If you want a sample of Italian I'll give it to you *unzips pants*
>>16381056You’ve posted stupid takes with that same cat photo the last 8 or so threads so whatever, opinion discarded
>>16381062I dunno I got it off Facebook (see filename)
>>16381074I usually post frogs if I do stupid takes
>>16380805He's in the big leagues now
>>16381076Hmm fair enough I suppose
>>16380312Just use a more efficient engine. You can send up a reactor for nuclear thermal and/or nuclear electric.you would get to mars faster that way too.
>nothing happened todayanything going on tomorrow?
>>16381082Check the launch manifest
>>16381085>launches are the only events that happen in the industry
>>16381085I hate reading. Can't you just tell me?
>>16380499>He didn't post the gay version
>>16381091>HES PULLING HIS COCK OUT
>>16381091Fellas, is it gay to touch nozzles?
>>16381096Yes... have you done this before anon?
uh.... if I did it was only because I had to gimble my engines out of danger
>>16381082Polaris Dawn splashdown innit?
>>16380499https://youtu.be/0c2blZLkQSo?t=79
>>16381102yeh in about 5 hours apparently
I can't wait for musk to band gays from Mars. That would be the first thing I would do if I was president of Mars
>2024>Russia is STILL launching a Bion satellite this year>Direct derivative of Vostok/VoskhodGood grief the slavs will be launching the same hardware they had since the 60s until the heat death of the universe
>>16381133If it works (like shit) it works
>>16381133Fascinating, really
>>16381133I have some respect for them for finding something that works and sticking with it.
>>16381117>band gayswhat about all the space tunes we'd miss out on?
>>16380210it only needs a swarm normally afaik to dig up star plasma for propellant
>>16381133>bion is used for studying animal biology in spacewe have a whole ass space station up there for this. russia can even access the chinese station too.
>>16381133Damn I thought this was an exaggeration; it’s straight up just a Voskhod what the fuck hahah. I didn’t realize this shit was still flying
mars bros i dont feel so good...
>>16381145fake as fuck
Are they gonna have a press conference or interview tomorrow ?
>>16381036>Of course, getting it to Venus is another question entirely.Perhaps some kind of rocketship?
>>16381133if it ain't blyat don't fix it
>>16381146Common meteor showers often have 1 per minute on average.
>>16381156sure, but the foreground and background are sharp so the image was faked. the shower radiant would've also moved throughout the night as well, so the meteors have to be fake too
>>16381156this is probably a few second exposure of the night sky with streaks photoshopped in.
>>16381156look, this one even goes over a branch
>>16381156an entire night of exposure and the milky way hasnt moved an inch?
>>16381167its clearly a composite image. i feel like alot of photographers leave key information out to try and make their images seem more impressive.
>>16381146>>16381159It's just a composite. Literally every landscape milky way shot is, cause you can't go more than 15-20 seconds without noticeable star trailing even at wide angles like that. You take long exposures that are tracked using a mount, and then you take a static image of the foreground that you want on a stationary tripod and then photoshop them together. That's just how these photos go.
>>16381145>Redditor learns meteors exist
my penis is the big penis. sls queen
>>16380864Telesat AND kuiper?? Blue Origin is gonna be busy!
>>16381171Kys footnigger
>>16381171>She's an expensive bitch who costs a fortune to date and is late every time
>>16381171sls a cute
>>16381091didn't the real image have a bear in the background?
>>16381171ripbozo she hung herself
>>16380883On Mars water will need to be abundant enough to be used for agriculture, industry, and fuel. The amount a human needs compared to that is small.
What happened to the proonters
>>16380710We think we do, but we don't.
>>16381187Won some and lost some and it’s all balanced now. Relativity obviously fell through. But SpaceX set up an R&D print facility for general infrastructure. And they still use printing in interesting ways for engines and other miscellaneous components. Not so fun to get in little squabbles anymore, especially now that they have shown without a shadow of a doubt that welding tanks is superior to any sort of printing you could ever hope to do at full-scale. Just bring sheet metal
SpaceX needs a nuclear deterrent.THIS IS NOT A JOKE
>>16381192Why are they even bothering with playing barbie and printing houses at starbase then if they could just weld sheet metal buildings on mars
>>16381193Falcon 9 IS the nuclear deterrent, anon
>>16381184Bro just set up shop in the Valles Marineris. Plenty of subsurface water ice there
>>1638119360% of satellites are starlink. At any time they could boost them into the path of any given satellite, including every single satellite at once. They already have a deterrent.
>>16381197I'm talking about nuclear weapons in orbit. Dozens at least, preferably thousands. What you need to understand and appreciate is that SpaceX must adopt the posture of a sovereign entity at odds with the entire planet of Earth if Mars colonization is to succeed.
>>16381201BRILLIANT PEBBLES
>>16381192They are paying for the choice in mass penalty though. Literally have to push raptor to it's absolute limit in order for starship to actually be viable and do the 100tons to orbit like they promised.
>>16381204hey, that's my line
>>16381207you snooze you looze. gotta be quicker on the draw next time.
>>16381202I wouldn’t think too hard into it anon. Mars will be the NASA-SpaceX joint venture for many many years to come after it gets established. America isn’t going to “turn” on an asset and there’s no reason for martians to want a revolutionary war over something trivial like muh taxes, this isn’t 1776. Stop your soi-fi larping and please join the rest of us in reality.The real threat is China poised to stake out land on the Moon and Mars by landing more Chang’e landers and eventually human habitats and boots on the ground. We can’t have them claiming prime real estate before we do. They will be a nuisance long before “le mean united Earth government” or the US government turns on any sort of Mars colony (if, at all)
>>16381210>America isn’t going to “turn” on an assetThey're already starting to. Bureaucratic delays of Starship should be met with credible threats of nuclear annihilation.
>>16381204>The name is a play on the idea of Smart RocksCan't believe they were rock posting even before gen 4 existed
>>16381212That’s more “inaction for something they don’t even realize is an asset yet.”It would do congress some good to be scared into reality (by China and Russia ramping up activity) and realizing they need to push Starship along with as minimal hindrances as there could be. Unfortunately, voters don’t care about space and ergo Congress doesn’t care either. Congress is in their own world reaping money and jobs and bribes from SLS/Orion thinking we can stay ahead of everyone else. And the shitty part is: they’re kind of right. For now. But at the risk of letting the gap between us and China close a little tighter, which is a scary thought
>>16381217You're giving them too much credit. Delaying Starship isn't incompetence, it's EDS-driven malice.
>>16381204stones of an above average standing
>they unironically think they wgts
>>16381221I wouldn’t go that far, for now at least. If Starship was snubbed from HLS downselection I might agree more. Right now it just feels like the FAA isn’t set up to deal with a super heavy lift rocket coming out of nowhere, suddenly launching from a non-NASA site that doesn’t have all of the regulatory and environmental shit figured out since the 50s.The gears are grinding as the FAA is trying to figure out how to go about it. It’s fucking shitty and slowing down progress without a doubt, we can both agree to that. It doesn’t feel nefarious though. Just… bureaucratic. Strangled by red tape and regulation. There needs to be huge changes that frees up SX
>>16381228genius gravelsuperior sand
Is there a stream for the splashdown?
>>16381239Yes
>>16381239No but there’s an ocean for it
>>16381244
Every piece of Polaris has occurer at 5AM. Fuck this shit mission
>>16381233unrelated to space flight but I find it interesting how people feel the need to add alliteration when parodying things. neither smart rocks nor brilliant pebbles have alliteration, but your plays on it do.just something I've noticed. I see it elsewhere too.
>>16381249Its the safest timewhy does my pinky pad (opposite thumb pad) hurt
>>16381253absolutely repulsive
>>16381249I hated it from the start. Now you know how boring the first manned starship mission will be
>>16381250alliteration makes everything better
>>16380879>>16381253Once again I implore Elon to ban all degenerates from Mars. Kill them via airlock and then feed their bodies to the plants.
>>16381253oh japan
>>16381255Kys shill it will be in the day
>>16381256alliteration anhances all
>>16381265spacex star ship
>>16381259Based
>>16381253Thanks for the sound effects notation. Very helpful for neurospicy individuals such as myself.
>>16381212>>16381202I like your attitude, anon.
>>16381253what's the purpose of the orifice below the split in the toilet seat?
>>16381293That's where it shits from.
>>16381293Dont ask questions just burn it down and the author with it
>>16381177>Blue Origin is gonna be busy!
>iran had a launch yesterdaywtf nobody told ussolid fuel Qaem-100 rocket with Chamran-1 satellite, pic relatedhttps://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61499.0
>>16381314So the main mission is proof that they can do it orrr? Also >inb4 political seethe
>>16381316yeah it appears to just be a tech demo
>>16381318Well good for them. Hopefully science missions soon then. More moon landing missions would be cool but probably just milsats in reality.
>>16381314we briefly mentioned it in the last thread. all in all, really interesting that this launch didn't result in failure, considering it's iran who we are talking about.
>>16381314Oh last time i saw this i thought it was indiaglad its a more civilized nation instead
https://youtu.be/ovZP9kfmfLwcheck this out
>>16381335This music makes me BWEH
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=polarisdawn>After launching to orbit on Tuesday, September 10, Dragon and the Polaris Dawn crew will return to Earth on Sunday, September 15, splashing down at approximately 3:36 a.m. ET off the coast of Dry Tortugas, Florida.splashdown in 1h 40min
>>16380849>https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1835022281812459530
>>16381348
>>16381350
>>16381345https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1835054184892448779pic related tweetthe official strema will start in about 30min, 1h prior to splashdownNSF stream (starts in 6min)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cthjJdniQlM
https://x.com/astro_anil/status/1835072606661140657
SpaceX doing so much over the last few days, so hard to keep up with everything
https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1835137806877729172Day 5 update
/sfg/ spamming that no one will read hours
>>16381352
>>16381359And whats worse is that 50% of its already been posted. I like newsposters but this is cancerous if youre spamming every fucking post thats already been put up.
live in 1 min https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=polarisdawn
>>16381345>>16381352Repost>>16381356Repost>>16381351>>16381350Reposts>>16381348Another repostStop fucking spamming shit we have seen 2-3 times already youre giving newsposters a bad wrap you dork
>space capsules get free inflight wifi before airlinersfuck airliners
>>16381366>>16381368Anon are you alright? That stuff hasn't been posted before. I don't wish to imply anything, but it sounds like you can't remember what's been posted.Anyways, who wants to try and fuck the moon? The coarse dust will give a nice texture to the hole you make.
>>16381367Opens to a black box when I clicked watch....
>>16381370United has itHawaiin has itChoose what you fly with
>>16381368the splashdown was talked about, that was the specific info and relevant linksWhen was the Day 5 update posted? Didn't see itthe laser update was posted by me at first (with a phone), but without a screenshotbut fine, I'll stop then
>>16381371Those images were posted here >>16381348 those tweets were posted here >>16380921 the first 2 say the exact same thing. They have been posted before and you need to check the thread before you mass spam twitter screenshots and make newsposters look bad.
Based the faggots who act like niggers have won once again
>>16381375Day 5 post is the exception but you see what I mean about good newsposts mixed in with bad ones? So much spam nobody reads everything especially when the majority had already been in the thread. If you post only new things that are new info and not rehashes then people would read more thoroughly. If you put 10 different images in a line that arent unique or eye catching, whos gonna read that? You need to curate what you post so that it is useful/new info only and not rehashed.
>>16381376the first link was posted without a pic (by me), the second link is to another post and doesn't show all of it
>>16381380fine lets talk about shit thenI'm so fucking sick of this constant whining
>>16381372https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1vOxwrBvbRVJBOkay found a twitter stream
>>16381383Ok, wanna see who can get the best Space Engine gif/image? Rules are must be in the solar system or non randomly generated objects
>>16381345>Dry TortugasTTD
>>16381390I said literal shit like people are talking about in this threadI'm not going to post news or any content until IFT-5
>>16381390>>16381383If you accept reply saying so, these are old gifs I made btw Im rusty with it
>>16381394Ok I will make Space Engine stuff too make up for your being a fag
>>16381394Like poop?
Fellas gimme ideas of things to make nice gifs of in Space Engine since I feel like it now
>>16381396go ahead
>>16381397>yes fuck my ass with the space toilet aah yes
I want to see them running DOOM on the dragon screens there
>>16381401interesting preposition, anon
>>16381399Crash mars into earth
>>16381402I wish i could see them play breath of the wild and eat nutella by the spoonful and read comic books!
>>16381402DOOM lan party in LEO
kino shots on stream
>>16381405I cant do that Space Engine's only manipulation is of time so I cant do shit like crash planets. That would be Universe Sandbox which is far less cinematic. I might have an idea though
>closing the nose cone AFTER doing the deorbit burnhuh?
>>16381399I like your grainy spooky style, reminds me of that weird vesta supercut (i think it was vesta? idk). something like cosmic horror depicting a lonely, vast scene with some implication of alien life, ambiguously hostile.
>>16381345
Heres some of a certain asteroid, anyone know which it is? Also do you think this or orbits included (coming soon) would be better? >>16381414That was actually a result of the compression of gifs since you have to reach 4 MB to post any file, but it did work out in my favor I liked it too.
maybe it was this videohttps://vimeo.com/347565673
>>16381418I feel like orbits give a perspective of how far out something is or its position in relation to us but it also might be considered visual clutter>>16381419Not clickin that shit someone tell me what it is if youre brave enough
>>16381420>never heard of vimeolol
The violin was custom. Explains how it was able to survive the decompression
>>16381422I have I just dont trust that site like I do Youtube
What a fucking zoomer lmfao
the violin performance has potential... imagine more joint space-ground projects like concerts or other forms of art/entertainment
Bros the vimeo link hacked me and now it's broadcasting sissy hypno straight to my soul
we need monthly dragon launches
>>16381424you are autistic, retarded, or a child
>>16381432First two
>>16381431When axiom separates their modules from the ISS and Vast puts up their first permanent module then dragon will definitely launch more frequently.
We need poop reclamation on space station like antarctica
Are you guys watching the stream?
Medical diagnosis tool in space. SpaceX made?
>>16381438No Im making a Besta gif
>>16381439Sounds like the first step towards building an AutoDoc from Fallout eventually
>>16381441Ok now Im watching>copy for crew entry prepLooks like I waited until the right time
>>16381442Having a hospital in a box would be huge on earth too honestly. And people say going to space is pointless...
>>16381395I like the grainy cam filter on this
have you guys ever cum in a girl then freak out it's and aliem girl
>>16381435yeah i think people would rather stay in space stations than be stuck in a dragon in most cases
5 minutes out. Dont pull any bullshit
>>16381448This is an incredibly specific shitpost, but yes I have.
>>16381445Yeah, maybe once technology transfers become more common again people will start to realize the potential of investing in space exploration.
>>16381420orbit lines should always be as thin as possible while still clearly visible desu. And either all perfectly white or each color coded to the body.
>>16381422>She uses Vimeo Disgusting platform lol
>>16381450wat are you worried aboit?
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>16381463The video isnt posted anywhere else. you can change that, make a webm!
GROUND VIEW KINO
SpaceX actually brings astronauts home. Boeing what's the big deal?
oh god it's burning upspacex is finished
>>16381465Them exploding during coms blackout because team couldnt respond in time
>vehicle broke in half streaming through sky OH ONONONO
https://www.youtube.com/live/cthjJdniQlMNSF is mogging spacex stream rn
>>16381472>It's on fire! you fools! you absolute morons!
Fuck that streaking looks kino
Someone cap that plasma trail
wait wtf I was out taking a piss they're already through??
>>16381474Boca Chica, tenemos un problema
>>16381476I can only watch NSF muted now
>>16381475Brown humor
The seats are coming loose!!!!!
lol they were literally saying their prayers
>>16381486
Balls have been releasedI repeat The balls have been released
>lots of spinningthe return looks rough
>One chute downONE CHUTE DOWN
>>16381491
if the chutes didn't deploy do they have the ability to fire the dracos to land propulsively?
That chute took its sweet damn time
>>16381494Not down, downsIt's just a bit slow
>>16381492Where will they get their propellant now??
>>16381497no if the chutes don't work they are fucked
>>16381499It's literally me
>>16381496
> spaceX win again
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>16381505Was there ever any doubt?
Space is literally so easy
it's over
>>16381504Splashdown
>>16381508Unless you are Boeing
>>16381510Recovery team ~30 mins away. Nice done SpaceX.
>>16381511True
The water landings always look so violent.
where the Trump boats at
>>16381516Kamala made sure that never happens again
Ooh night shots.
Dragon lit up from the interior is goddamn kino
This looks amazing on my new OLED laptop.
Now that's pretty
>>16381525Looks like a pool
So many kino shots from this mission
>>16381525You bitch! how dare you post this before me!
>>16381531heh heh heh
>>16381523If only it weren't bit starved and only limited to 1080p
>spacex launch crew at 10% the rate of shuttle>gemini extra lame rebootWAOW NEW GOLDEN AGE OF HUMAN SPACEFLIGHT
>>16381535Give it 5 years. We'll have more space stations in orbit than ever before in history and there will regularly be 30 people in orbit
>>16381536That was a kino shot, looks like an alien ship
>>16381527cuz the underwater lights
>>16381535isaacman said he paid less than $200 million for inspiration4. the shuttle was $1.5 billion per launch in 2010 dollars.
oh my fucking god
A NASA helicopter flew to the area where the reconnaissance plane was circling and turned back as soon as it got there. I wonder what that was about.
>>16381536I thought this was Bezos' ship for a second.
Heres that Vesta gif. I had to remember how to wrangle this fucking gif editor but now I got it down. I think I can make longer and larger gifs as well. More ideas people now that splashdown is over? This is fun to dick around with
>>16381550Mimas
>>16381544
>>16381552I can do that, Ill see if I can find something interesting to do with it
Sploosh
>you will never get to cannonball off a space capsule into the ocean on a warm summers night
Do they get to watch the stream too?
>>16381544looks like gaymer crap
>>16381560Anon they are being rescued from drowning right now. How would they watch the stream of themselves?
Im going to bed
wow already getting them out of the capsule
starliner mogged again
>>16381564They have screens and internet I'm pretty sure.
call me when they land on a landing pad
Such a cutie
>James P. Lucas testing the PLSS at Houston Flight CenterDidn't know that giga used to work for NASA.
call me when they poopoopeepee
bring back the classic demo-2 style suits
>>16381546The ULA sniper working overtime.
Heres that Mimas gif you wantedIt was a rough one. I wanted to track the special crater since thats the only reason anyone likes this moon but unfortunately the perspective I took had no shadows going around the outside so it becomes a blob midway thru. The parts at start and finish tho are pretty nice due to the shadows.
>>16381578booby
>>16381579Fuck sake
Starliner could never. Anyway do we know what kind of copter they'll use for transport?
>>16381582the one they use to transport your mother to the hospital
>>16381550Pluto, from the perspective of Hydra?
>>16381399lapetus might be cool
>>16381584I can do this, I may go for a surface shot on this>>16381587Any specific perspective, highlight a certain feature, etc? If not im going to go freedtyle
>>16381588it shouldn't be easy to miss
>>16381589Always reminds me of that shitty Mission to Mars movie
FantasyvsReality
Hydra gif baking>>16381590Got it, I have an idea for this
The one spot on Hydras surface that doesnt completely cut off the Plutonian system. Thing is lumpy as fuck, I also got an eclipse here.
>>16381603dang imagine putting a camera on a 100m pole there and livestreaming footage 24/7 with sooslink
Titan is still amazing to me.>>16381603>>16381605Why haven't we sent more probes out to TNOs? We need to at least see Eris. It's bigger than Pluto.
>>16381607NASA got cucked before the great discovering of TNOs which hit its peak around the early 2000s. They were still saddled with the shuttle and are now saddled with Artemis, no free budget has been available for real science missions for a while. We lucked out with New Horizons since everyone and their mother knew of Pluto.
we could easily dig to the center of something like Phobos. What would you feel if you were at the center? any gs?
>>16381611more undifferentiated rock just like the surface
They can see everything. Nice
Iapetus ridge, also stars included. I think thats it for me for tonight, but maybe more tomorrow
>>16381233I like "sensible sand" better.
>>16381204Rock hard
>>16380565Tie a couple of cameras to a radio and yeet it in the direction you wanna survey.
>>16381624lol, they forgot to photoshop out the camera guy filming this fake mission.
They're back!https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1835253157770694673
>>16381625cool although it's not really obvious that it's in fact a ridge. half of lapetus surface is dark and the other half white, you might want to make another gif for that
>>16381644>file too largehttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/1835259275276595237
>>16381648
>>16381648literal kino overload
>>16381644>please log in with google>accept our spyware>please register an accountwhy didn't elon remove all this garbage
>>16381652Because the jews were data harvesting the site for free
>>16381644why does she keep pointing at the camera, does she think she's an anime girl or something?
>>16381652just use throwaway mail lol.
>>16381652You dont have google? You dont have throwaway email? lmao. Stop being a cuck.
>>16381662bowing down to daddy google and ad companies and yet i'm supposedly the cuck, lmao
>>16381665You already do by posting on 4chan. Dumb retard lmao
>annoyed by SpaceX because there’s just so much going on and my phone notifies me way too much about their activity when they go live every single hour of every single day>annoyed by BO for being lazy, do-nothing sleazeballs who’d rather engage in lawfare than orbit The difference couldn’t be clearer
>>16381662>You don't let just anyone fuck your computer? What are you a cuck?Truly the quality of trolling has remained the same.
>>16381133This is what brain drain does to a nation.
>>16381676Coming soon to a United States near you.
>>16381671I uninstalled that Spaceflight now app because for this reason lol. I wonder how many other people did the same.
>>16381659legend
>>16381659maybe she thinks she's doing that maymay
>>16381659naw they did this for Inspiration4 as well
>>16381399Show that Jupiter is bigger in the Martian sky than the moon is from Earth
>>16381644>does she think she's an anime girl or something?She's a MILF
>>16381644la cretura terribla...
>>16381678why can't eurobros brain drain america instead of rape draining africa
>>16381678it doesnt matter if countries get smart americans or not because they dont have a culture of innovation. spaceflight would collapse without america.
>>16381719löl
>>16381719Maybe 20 years ago. Today China is on track to overtake America.
>>16381719The US hasn’t had a culture of innovation when it comes to space flight since the 70s. If not for spacex and specifically Musk they would still stuck with SLS or even relying on the Russians to get shit to orbit and if anything should happen to Musk then stagnation will return indefinitely. Even now it looks like starship will be hindered by the US government purely to spite Elon even if it would be extremely valuable from a strategic point of view.China is just gonna copy all of this and speedrun to the moon and Mars while Elon won’t even get permission for a static fire until all the local crab experts have been consulted on it’s potential damage to their habitats.
>>16381729China is not innovating. All of their growth has just been catching up. By the time they match America it isn't clear they'll be able to keep going
>>16381735All they have to do is copy Falcon 9, and copy Starship, then produce the damn things on a grand scale. With no concerns about accidents, the environment, lawsuits, etc.They don't need to innovate at this point, the plan is laid bare for fucking everyone to copy.SpaceX is not struggling with design or manufacturing, they are struggling a hostile government administration.
>>16381735You realise China has already eclipsed the US in ship building, fighter production, metallurgy refining, normal/electric vehicle production and basically everything else in between. The only place the US solidly stands above them in is orbital launch vehicles, but they just recently demonstrated a self landing first stage so it’s only a matter of time before they begin developing falcon 9 equivalents and eventually starship equivalents except without the constant litigation and bullshit hindering from their government that spacex has to deal with so they can spam as many as they want and as fast as they want until they get it right.Also relying on this belief that China is just going to stop advancing and miraculously collapse in 2 more weeks is incredibly stupid and is pure cope. They aren’t going anywhere.
>>16381735>All of their growth has just been catching up.And that is more than enough. Just have a look at the Martian sample return situation. Every day that NASA is preoccupied with DEI politics, corruption and cost overruns, the chance that the Chinese will be the first to bring back Martian samples keeps growing.
>>16381744america will just out innovate them by producing orion drive ships. AFTER RUZZIA IS DEFEATED THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF NUKES AS FUEL
>>16381751The funny/sad part is that it's the result of American and western politics overall. Everyone wanted that cheap labour and in result, they killed their industry. In Germany it's even worse, they're basically committing country-wide suicide with green politics and immigration.
>>16381758Germany is an occupied nation and has been since 1945. They are not sovereign and will do whatever they are told to do. The US has literally 30k soldiers there at any given time, has spied on the messages of their chancellors and politicians, has blown up their infrastructure openly and Germany has done absolutely nothing because they are not independent.If the US wanted they could tell the Germans to revitalise their industry and stop shutting down their power plants or bringing in millions of feral retards and all those green politicians would do a complete 180 and follow the orders given to them as if it was their own genius idea. They won’t because destroying the industry of Germany just means all those companies will move to the US and the US industry will have less competition in general with Germany deindustrialised so they encourage it.
>>16381735>China is not innovatingTheir research output already exceeds that of Europe. What are you talking about? And it's not just low quality anymore, a lot of state of the art papers have Chinese authorship.>>16381758This is an outdated perception. China isn't cheap anymore, there are countries with >6 times cheaper labor. The difference is that China is full of high IQ people who are willing to work 60 hour weeks and give it their best. I highly recommend that you watch American Factory. It will open your mind to how entitled, lazy, and incompetent western workers are. There's a reason the chips you're using to browse 4chan right now were made in Taiwan, not the USA. Even the 50 billion chips act was not enough to overcome the barrier of widespread incompetence and bureaucratic dysfunction. And yes, I know Taiwan is not China, but the point is the same.
>>16381693It is?
>>16381399>Space EngineIs this like Universe Simulator but actually good
>>16381780noat their closest approach, mars and jupiter are about 600 million km apart vs 0.25 million km for earth and the moon (a difference of 2400x), but jupiter is only about 40x as wide as the moon. So jupiter would still be a tiny point of light in the sky
>>16381775The next 10 years are going to be essential in deciding the future dominant players in space. Whoever pulls ahead now, will retain that lead indefinitely.At this most crucial of moments, there is a fork in the road, and we have an incoming administration of even more hostility towards rocketry, big, disruptive ventures, and innovation in general. The US is fucked, Europe is fucked, Russia is fucked, India is rising, and especially China is emerging on top, while slowly realizing they have been given a gift by all of these formerly dominant, but now cucked nations.These trends will not change, if only SpaceX can find a way out of the grip of Western governments.
>>16381693>Show that Jupiter is bigger in the Martian sky than the moon is from Earth>>16381780>It is?How do people here keep falling for this? And why is it so difficult to find accurate images about space? I had to go 10 pages deep into Google image search to find 1 image with somewhat accurate orbits.
>>16381775>how entitled, lazy, and incompetent western workers areI got a glimpse of that while watching a video from some welder on youtube. I don't know the proper terms for all those metal parts, but they key is, he wanted it in exact dimension, within a designed tolerance. He sent the same order to three shops around him, and not a single one was able to deliver the quality product.
>>16381793Could be he ordered parts with specifications that were physically impossible.It happens more often than you think.
>>16381775The consequences of a competent, dedicated workforce of wageslaves is a population that doesn't reproduce.
>>16381797Oh, I found it. Here are the impossible specifications.https://youtu.be/5SSUbxpCVZs
>>16381732That’s like saying America wouldn’t have landed on the Moon without the some help of WvB, Grumman, Boeing, and a select few other defense contractors. Is that true? Yes. But it’s the American system that fostered them. It’s the american system that fosters SpaceX. Elon didn’t go and start a space company in south africa, or canada, or china. He did it in America.>b-but without SpaceX america would have nothing!SpaceX IS america—and even in your stupid hypothetical, america still has SLS which still mogs the rest of the world despite being a huge piece of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq69se3d0DsPerseverance rover picks up the pace.
why is axiom slow to find astronauts? There's 200 governments and millions of millionaires that can afford a trip
China won, just cope and seethe mutts.
>>16381811nvm I looked it up ..they only fly to the ISS so they are limited by NASA rules
>>16381775>Their research outputLet's see what that's worth>>16373720
>>16381232Okay wait now I feel like I’m going fucking crazy.All these libtard “spitter” fags who show up all over my timeline [and who said they wanted a Kamala-Kelly ticket] are now saying they feel like the FAA is being politically motivated to slow down SpaceX right now.It’s amazing really. These people can connect the dots and get 99% of the way there; but then they go all-in on a stupid bitch who doesn’t care about space. Now they’re admitting the Joe/Kamala administration is ANTI-Starship?? Even I’m not admitting that yet, and I’m a right wing schizo in many ways.
>>16381824You people really don't get it, do you?
>This Government is the best!>No no no, It's this one!fuck off
>>16381840Take the enlightened path and simply support Colonial Expansionism, more of an umbrella -ism that supports off-world colonies, healthy families, population growth, perhaps not ‘e/acc’ but certainly a balance of tradition and technological acceleration, AGI robot slave labor, etc.
>>16381843The karman line will be the new mason-dixon line. The future will be colonies with robot slaves.https://youtu.be/QBqHCRZReEQ?si=H9QG6lDv3L3e6qfu
>>16381831>Now they’re admitting the Joe/Kamala administration is ANTI-Starship?I didn't think this was in dispute.
>>16381232>If Starship was snubbed from HLS downselection I might agree moreStarship selection happened during the transition period by an interm executive that retired shortly after so that politics cant pin point back to him as part of Biden admin's retaliation. They did however go after Kathy Leuders and demoted her and removed all role in Starship. She was previously promoted during Trump admin for her role in commercial crew.
>>16381861I’m fine admitting Leuders and Jurczyk were unsung heroes who knew what needed to be done
>>16381824>Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 奥尔顿·斯特林和菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚的射击 >death of Freddie Gray 弗雷迪·格雷的死>Shooting of Michael Brown迈克尔·布朗的拍摄>death of Eric Garner, Oakland California 奥克兰奥克兰市埃里克·加纳(Eric Garner)逝世>Assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. 小马丁·路德·金遭暗杀兄弟,好像有什么误会。你是不是夸我们?
>>16381806>He did it in America.Same with Branson and Ansari. The pioneer spirit is still alive in America. The chinks are doing it out of a sense of Han pride/inferiority. In America we do it because it’s cool. We don’t need a “culture” of whatever. We just need the bureaucracy to get out of the way.
>>16380934Reasonable. As long as Elon gets paid who cares if the Canadians waste money on Canadian hardware. They were just going to do something gay with it anyway
>>16381876kek
>>16381894Precisely.Their burden-free attempts aren’t even 20% as good as our lead-weighted achievements we are doing right now.
>>16381824>>16381837Their simplistic commie brains are too stupid to understand why this doesn't work in the other direction.
>>16381895Buying Starlink service for all remote unconnected Canadians would have cost say $2B. Instead, Canada opts for making their own constellation (Canadian jobs, pride) and will also have full control over censorship or whatever they see fit to do.I'm not sure if the old Blue Origin or Relativity Space contracts are still in effect, or if Falcon 9 will be the sole launch provider now.Its not a huge cost mistake, and retains some locally made pride and control, which is understandable.>The internet satellite constellation is targeted to have a 30-50 ms latency. The satellites are expected to be around 800 kg (1,800 lb) and last 10 years on orbit. The constellation is expected to have a 16-24 Tb/s capacity with 8 Tbit/s (1 TB/s) available for customers.>In September 2023, Telesat announced a new contract with SpaceX for 14 launches with up to 18 satellites on each launch for the Lightspeed constellation, starting in mid-2026
>>16381751>They aren’t going anywhere.Well you're definitely right about that, but not in the way you meant.
>>16381932lmao
>>16381931would it be worth canada creating their own constellation just to get better orbits for their high inclinations? polar or molniya or something
>>16381938No
>>16381938No. Starlink is already set up fine for covering polar regions. Molniya orbits are only used when you want to cover polar regions with the minimum number of satellites and don't care about latency issues.
>>16381802>impossible specificationsIf you don't brace the material, sure. It's been over 25 years since I worked with shit like that and I knew immediately where this was headed within a minute.
Wait so we have confirmed martian meteorites but no venusian meteorites? Why?
>>16381946Venus is a fat piggy who won't let go of roggs.
>>16381931>Buying Starlink service for all remote unconnected Canadians would have cost say $2BWrong and gay. Elon already said he could do it for half that.>pride>canadaYou can't be serious.
>>16381946Plot spoilers, we can't handle Venus roggs until reaching the part of the story where we've got boots on the ground there.
>>16381946Fucking Venusian atmosphere again
>>16381949Yeah but her lazy ass barely rotates, meaning more likely than not she got smashed by an impact that flung lots of material out. Right?
>>16381932So far their strategy of sitting back and selling shit while the US stabs itself and allies 30 times before jumping head first onto concrete has proven very effective.Literally all they have to do is businesses as usual until the US and friends demographic issues become so untenable that they China can just expand without fear of sanctions or serious confrontation. I get that you will obviously try to cope and say China has a declining population which means they will explode in 14 more days, but they aren’t flooding themselves with pajeets or Haitians so long term they are in a much better position.
>>16381950There's a lot for Canada to take pride in. Look how far their space program has come
>>16381961>just two more weeks until America collapses!
>>16381963lol I knew that was coming>>16381950Canada has pride, they have whole parades for it with rainbow flags!
>>16381961>So far their strategy of sitting back and selling shit while the US stabs itself and allies 30 times before jumping head first onto concrete has proven very effective.You know, as long as you just ignore all the areas where it hasn't.Stop thinking of yourself as the tortoise. Bezos mindset.
>>16381963kek
How are they going to excuse importing Haitians to Mars? You know they'll try it
>>16381961In the 80's everyone thought that the Japanese would soon rule the world, but it didn't quite turn out that way.Of course American hegemony won't last forever, but until it's over there will always be someone in second place.
>>16381976That’s a problem for another generation. The next three, four, generations starting toward the middle-to-end of our lifetimes when we first set up the colonies will be more technical and pragmatic in nature.What is to be done when our grand- / greatgrandchildren deal with that problem? Idk just blow the landing starships out of the sky. Or just kill the colored migrants who start eating pets and doing weird shit. But hopefully they won’t have to deal with it because we will have course-corrected our own government by then.Now stop bringing modern E*rther politics into /sfg/ you pillow biting lobotomy brained fag
>>16381979the world is literally structured around an american hegemony. Unironically too big to fail.
>>16381960No. It's from being too close to the sun for the interior to solidify much.
>>16382004This is not true
https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1835226073824432240I hope we get to see the video of this.
>>16382018I hope matthew dominick/don pettit kicked everyone out of the cupola and took kino photos
lol, they took extra safety measures and picked a helicopter made by Airbushttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/1835331478563262599
>>16381979Japan was conquered and occupied by the US lmao. I mentioned earlier how Germany isn’t a sovereign nation, but Japan is just as bad with US military personnel numbering around 50k there. More than any other nation on Earth aside from the US itself. When the US made them sign the plaza accords they knew it would fuck up their economy, but they did it anyway because they are not independent and sure enough they got their lost decade with the dreams of their economy overtaking the US smothered. A loyal puppet will never exceed it’s master because the master can just order them crippled and they will oblige.China is not a puppet of the US and does not need to accept or even acknowledge any demands made by them. The US cannot get them to cripple themselves nor can they even sanction them to death without crippling themselves due to how dependent the US has become after exporting all its industry. The dynamic is very different compared to 1980s Japan.
>>16381961The Roman empire both thrived off of and destroyed itself by importing free labor as slaves: The west follows its example.The thing with China though is they have adopted a semi-western system: they're getting cheapish labor from their rural areas. Once that runs dry they're going to have to do the same as the west and import labor to keep economic activity up.This gay earth is stuck in a stagnating system until labor costs skyrocket (if that ever even happens).
>>16381968Lol the only area China hasn’t overtaken the US in is launch vehicles, but as I stated earlier they already proved they can land rockets so now it’s just a matter of time before they begin making falcon 9 copies and overtake the US. Might take maybe 10 years, but given how hostile and corrupt the US government is towards spacex (the only reason the US is ahead in space) then it’s basically certain they will overtake America.
is IFT-5 still in November?
>>16382027lol>it was only because of those damn americans! if it weren't for them the japanese would've ruled the world! no it had nothing to do with their population, demographics only negatively impact decadent pig western countries
>>16381964The US won’t collapse. It will just decline, degrade and become worse, but it won’t collapse. It will become more like Brazil or South Africa and I don’t just mean demographically.
>>16382039The Plaza Accords certainly didn't help though.
>>16381985You know full well the only way the democrat party will ever let Elon put people on Mars is if atleast half of the astronauts are monkeys and pajeets. Just imagine the smell in the capsule.
>>16382035yeah
>>16382034I guess terminal tortoise-brain can't be fixed.Don't worry, you'll overtake them any day now, then they'll see how you were right all along. Just like Blue Origin.
>>16382029Or they will just automate to reduce worker requirements which is exactly what they are doing. I’m surprised the west doesn’t think more along those lines rather than importing Somalis or Afghans.
>>16382035january next year.
>>16382035for now yeah but come November it will be "NET Q2 2025"
>>16382029>Once that runs dry they're going to have to do the same as the west and import labor to keep economic activity up.mmmmhhhh?NoBy the time that happens, AI and robots will do the labor.
>>16382039Don’t worry anon I’m sure China will just keel over and collapse like the puppet that is Japan. Just keep looking forward to that day. And try not to die of old age while waiting.
>it's another 'America in Recline, China Incline' timeloop
>>16382035Probably December
>>16382035NET NovemberRealistic date is January 2025
>>16382035Depends how the election that month goes.I wish it wasn't dependent on that, but it is.
>>16382048>>16382051On paper it’s awesome and “frees up more relaxing time” or whatever but unfortunately real life isn’t star trek with post-scarcity aspects implemented into society so unless you have something like UBI (which I don’t think is realistic) then you have a lot of people without work to do and without a way to live.The only people benefiting are the owners who have the robot slaves in the first place.If your society is full of people struggling to pay rent and put food the table you aren’t going to have an ordered system for more than a short discrete amount of time
>>16382029>Mars develops labor replicating automation far beyond Earth due to import constraints and breaks the cycle we can't get there fast enough
>>16382058Then I guess it’s a good thing the population is declining and having an excess of workers means you don’t need as much foreign labour so less immigration means greater stability.
>>16382052>only one talking pointAnon, I don't need China to collapse. They're already irrelevant.>"oh but they'll catch up!"Yeah and they can keep playing catchup for the rest of time. They'll always live in the shadow of 1st place.You're the one who has to huff his own farts over how the US will totally just completely kill itself soon and there will be no more SpaceX and that then the real Chinese century can finally begin. Your strategy is hoping the enemy just allows you to win.
why is thunderf00t so based?
The CCCP were godless faggots, but at least they were a respectable adversary in the space domain. Despite being a huge geopolitical race, the USA and Soviet Union would share safety information, tell eachother what radio frequencies they were broadcasting data on so they could collect eachother’s data, and the astronauts/cosmonauts would visit eachother even before Apollo/Soyuz.I miss those bloody fools sometimes… China just isn’t a big enough threat to really be meaningful in any way. Especially not to Congress who control the purse and the red tape stopping us from complete and utter control of the Moon and Mars.
The reality is that if SpaceX doesn't do it, no one will. China will never support serious space travel for the very same reason our own bureaucrats never will. They hate anything and everything that could allow people to not be under their control. China would always need anything space related to be for Earth and dependent on Earth, because if there were something like a self-sustaining Mars colony there would be the possibility of it seeking independence from them. Expecting anyone but SpaceX to do it is functionally expecting humanity to be tied to this rock until we die.
>>16382035They arent ready
I'm thinking of suing the federal government for violating the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958.>(2) The improvement of the usefulness, performance, speed, safety, and efficiency of aeronautical and space vehicles;They have gotten progressively worse by design>(4) The establishment of long-range studies of the potential benefits to be gained from, the opportunities for, and the problems involved in the utilization of aeronautical and space activities for peaceful and scientific purposes.Complete lack of studies on health, reproduction, and industry>(5) The preservation of the role of the United States as a leader in aeronautical and space science and technology and in the application thereof to the conduct of peaceful activities within and outside the atmosphere.They're focusing on old tech that makes their friends happy instead of switching their focus to SpaceX, and not pushing back on lawfare regulation against SpaceX. The trends right now certainly would not leave the US as a leader>(7) Cooperation by the United States with other nations and groups of nations in work done pursuant to this Act and in the peaceful application of the results, thereof; You could argue that the Wolf Amendment has allowed China to move so quickly. Not sure why the did that.>(8) The most effective utilization of the scientific and engineering resources of the United States, with close cooperation among all interested agencies of the United States in order to avoid unnecessary duplication of effort, facilities, and equipment.>effective utilization of the scientific and engineering resources of the United StatesThey have basically wasted our best and brightest for 50 years. I wonder if SpaceX could actually sue for the fucked up priories. Ignore the reddit formatting
>>16382093What happens if you win
Berger: this wasn't a billionaire joyrideleftists: *didn't read* fuck you and fuck billionaires
>>16382095I don't get my lawyer money back and get executed by Boeing
>>16382096It was absolutely a billionaire joyride, but he also funded a practical demo of tech SpaceX needs to bump up the TRL ladder for NASA. The mission wouldn't have happened without his money. Is Jared going to have a gigantic ego the rest of his life because regular space tourism won't ever be like his exploration missions? I don't doubt it.
>people think the Polaris program is actually a cover for a astronaut training business they said it follows the same plan that his previous company Draken used for creating a fighter jet pilot training company guess Axiom and Vast are going to get their astronauts from isaacman?
>>16382105I've had this conspiracy theory for a while, glad to see someone else post it. It just makes sense.
In all seriousness, what will two be? I'm guessing they already know what it'll be because they've announced three, and I'm guessing it's something NASA won't like since they haven't announced it yet. Am I reaching?
>>16382109You’re reading between the lines too much lmao. They simply slated Manned Starship for Polaris 3 because they know it’s more far-out time wise, and they soft-slated P2 as hubble servicing but that has kinda fallen through as of now. So in short, Jared doesn’t really have a plan for polaris 2 yet
>>16382113No private Artemis 2 then?
>>16382116Whadya mean?
>>16382109given that NASA clearly doesn't want them reboosting hubble, maybe they can find some private satellite to reboost? accomplish the same objectives, get similar PR etc etc except NASA gets no part in it.
>>16382109>first mission to vast>mock satellite servicing>circumlunar flight>long duration dragon mission
>>16382122Circumlunar / long duration would require a new service module if they weren’t visiting a station. Lunar would also require a new heat shield. Not impossible, and would absolutely mog SLS/Orion. But still—these are the challenges they would need to meet.A one-off satellite servicing would be dumb imo. Dragon-Hubble makes sense as it’s a super sensitive satellite worth saving. But showing that Dragon can save *any* shitty satellite when Drafon is being phased out in the near-future for Starship is dumb. Plus the concept of a manned servicing mission is simply more expensive to do than an automated reboost of most satellites so it isn’t a good business model (again; this is why dragon/hubble works because it’s WORTHY of a one-off manned servicing mission)
>>16382027>all this demoralized thirdie babblewill you cut it out, you're barely getting any responses because nobody is implessed, anon.
>>16382127dragon has at least 15 years of life left in it
>>16382127dragon isn't going anywhere unless spacex adds las capability to starship
>>16382127A new service module for Dragon would also need a new crew access tower unless they can somehow get it to fit into the same dimensions as the current trunk.
>>16382136Yeah perhaps replace “near-future” with “mid-future” but my point should still stand, no? Not really worth it to showcase “new” Dragon feature now that we’ve seen Starship fly four times already and HLS will land on the Moon soon enough. Starship is accelerating, even despite the doldrums of nefarious regulation. Polaris 1 made sense because it was more about showcasing the EVA suits and all they had to do was depress and climb up a ladder.Juxtaposed to this: there is simply no need for Jared to show that Dragon can reboost a satellite. You’d need to pay for an entire Dragon flight to do this. No one is willing to do this except maybe NASA and they probably don’t have a payload they care about expect for Hubble and Webb, really
>>16382116circumlunar
>>16382141what's stopping them from just filling all the unpressurized cargo space in the trunk with more life support?
>>16382151it’s not that easy in life supportery
>>16382151Dragon's internal life support should be fine for cirlunar work with a little bit of finishing off. dearMoon was originally going to be a crew dragon launched on a Falcon Heavy and Dragon 2's initial capacity for transporting 7 crew only got axed due to NASA's seat geometry preferences. The LS margins for taking 4 crew to the moon should already be there. A service module is needed more to provide propulsion that doesn't come from a few nose-mounted Dracos and a more capable deep-space communication system.
>>16382141what I’ve gathered from the last decade of spaceflight—considering SLS‘s new tower for block 2, new glenn’s speculative third stage, Stretched Starship, and now what you said about a Dragon service module—is that if you’re going to build a ground service tower PLEASE ensure the upper ~33% of it it can retract up and down by like 20 or 30 feet to save yourself the headache of needing a whole new tower kek
maybe the dream chaser approach where the cargo module acts as a temporary space station module that they can dock with
>>16382161keep chasing that dream
>>16382160it's not that easy in launch towerery.it's easier, only the umbilical and gantry need to be raisable
>>16382161For dragon? But why? That’s now additional pressurized volume that need additional life support
>>16382127>Circumlunar would require a new service moduleCircumlunar would only be a couple more day than Polaris, is this really such an issue?>Lunar would also require a new heat shieldWith falcon heavy to TLI you'd have like 10 extra tons to play with, this shouldn't be a problem. The Apollo heatshield is also well documented, and while a little artisanal for SpaceX, would likely not take several years or several billion dollars to integrate and test.
>>16382141>new crew access towerIt's Spacex. Few mexican welders could reposition the crew access arm in two weeks
>>16382174Your problem is now putting a dragon on a FH
can we let the crew board the capsule before the rocket goes vertical?
>>16382176How is that different? We're talking about a private mission so NASA's human rating requirements don't apply
>>16382105Has he built a training facility? There's a startup in Colorado that's working on ithttps://arstechnica.com/science/2022/05/entrepreneurs-create-a-space-academy-as-commercial-space-flourishes/
>>16382179It's not that easy
>>16382182At this point I suspect it might be
>>16382175>>16382179Look I’m not trying to be a pessimist and I know SpaceX can work some real magic, but this is a manned dragon mission we are talking about. Look at Polaris 1 that literally just flew! They followed the regular Dragon-to-ISS flight profile and then pulled a big dogleg burn after the fact just to keep the regulatory paperwork as minimal as possible. SpaceX can afford to change things quickly for SS development but they aren’t going to barnyard engineer an upgrade to the Dragon 2 tower or try to put Dragon on a FH. Just like they aren’t going to independently chase propulsive Dragon landing or second stage reuse for F9. It’s within their scope, yes—but let’s be pragmatic here. There are just some things that aren’t going to happen even if they’re within the realm of possibility
>>16382184warp drive in two weeks
>>16382181Oh this is good news for all of the incompetent (European) countries out their who can't train astronauts. They can just pay someone else to do it.
Seriously, explain how Elon's plan is any different from that of the bad guy's in Avatar. The Earth will die while the richies go off to Mars. Why celebrate their waste of limited human resources in ensuring their own survival?
>>16382202>bad guyyou mean the navi and traitors?
Gb2r
>>16382202The humans were the good guys in that movie
>>16381644Need an edit of this but with "guess who is getting a girlfriend this 2024?"
>>16382202The richest barely want to head to LEO, much less Mars. Spaceflight is still incredibly dangerous and uncomfortable, and pseuds who keep blathering on about it being a "billionaires playground" don't know what it's like to attempt camping in a space the size of a Camry for a week. Life on Mars is going to suck, and it will suck for hundreds of years, if not thousands. Consider how easy it is for you to walk outside and breathe fresh air, whereas on Mars literally every part about the environment is trying to kill you. You think every billionaire wants to give up their Mercedes and cliffside house in Malibu to eat a chicken sandwich grown in a tube and sniff your fellow colonists' farts for decades? Only the most psychotic and incomprehensibly tough people are going to Mars, which is why they will eventually be a race of superhumans.
>>16382202Mars is a shithole and it's unlikely that Earth somehow will become more unlivable than Mars.
>>163822084u
>>16382202The bad guys of Avatar? You mean the good guys?
>>16382202this is just like harry potter
>>16382202>bad guy's in Avatargod I hated that trope so, so much. A shame, because the visuals in that movie are superb. It's always the same with "sci-fi" movies nowadays. humans = bad, capitalism = bad, expanding and colonization = bad, space = bad. It's the complete opposite of the 60s and 70s version of the genre. They also go out of the way to make the characters so one-dimensional it's embarrassing to even continue watching. Prime exampe, "Elysium". You now have a horde a anti-intellectual, mouth-breathing normies screaming "it'S juSt liKe EllySIUm!1" every time something space related takes place. Completely ironic that Matt Damon even agreed to take part in that movie, considering his participation in Interstellar, a film that deals with the consequences of people not caring about space anymore, and The Martian, which is the most realistic spaceflight movie of this era that I can think of and first comes to my mind.
>>16382226I hope the sun absolutely vomits an ultra mega death burp straight at the earth soon. Total global coverage. Pole to pole in the deep red.
THE most consequential election for the future of space. The presumptive “pro-space” nominee missed a bullet by literal millimeters. Now shot at, again. History is decided by inches and seconds.
https://youtu.be/DZyTIZFtf20
>>16382226>cutoff directly above upper michiganFuck you too, sun.
>>16382240Kamala is literally the National Space Council leader, she is 100X more qualified
>>16382233lol, speaking of movies, that reminds me of the ending of Knowing, starring Nicolas Cage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5v8SpCtrshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdc0-JD8DkIt completely deviates from what one would expect from your typical big-budget, major Hollywood movie with an A-list actor, in that at the end [spoiler]everyone dies, well kinda.[/spoiler]
>>16382213thank you, you are a big guy
>>16382213I love that pose so much, completely kino with the spacex suit.
>>16382151It fucks up with the balance required for aborts. That's the whole reason for the trunk, it just provides aerostability. See how quickly the capsule turns once its gone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bhW2h08zhY
so.. what else is out there for Polaris 2 to be the first in something, that is feasible to do within a reasonable amount of time. and that wouldn't require that many modifications to the Falcon/Dragon architecture? no lunar flyby, no hubble reboost (sorry, NASA is too risk adverse), no falcon heavy launch, no polar mission (fram2 will be the first one), no long-duration flight, anything else that could be interesting?
>>16382274Orbital intercourse.
>>16382274Why no lunar flyby? Dragon was always designed to return from the moon and Mars with its super chunky heat shield. Maybe ECLSS is an issue but perhaps you can increase the free flight endurance with one less crew member. Falcon Heavy l, if needed in order to actually throw Dragon that far, might be the largest actual modification in that case but really only seems to be a dynamics and analysis problem since all the hardware for that pairing actually exists.
Apologize
behold
>>16382298Total FAA Death
>>16382298>defending bureaucracy you can only get to this point if you're fundamentally evil
>>16382298Who said anything about Starship?FAA should die yesterday because of how they handled 747 rudder issues and 737 MCAS. No rocketry required.
>>16382298I'm sorry you're gay.
come on elon, move to china, i know you want to...
>>16382226>its cloudy again just like last timebut of course...
>>16382316(this post violates US law)
>>16382316Point and laugh at this chink
https://x.com/artemisichi/status/1834381481415692558Hoky shit this is huge! New artemis vtuber to conpete directly with Clear!!! Her name Artemis Ichi
https://www.youtube.com/live/2TVvg4VxUzk>>16382322aaaaAAAA
>>16382304Manned mission to Saturn by the early 70s, in that timeline.
The astronaut family is back together <3https://x.com/astro_anil/status/1835419275773059374
>>16382325Crazy that starship could get us to Jupiter with refueling.
>>16382330Those kids don't even look like her. What an absolute shame.
>>16382333>starship beyond the asteroid beltfanfiction
>>16382344If starship can land on mars then it can EASILY get past the asteroid belt.
>>16382339shes latina. the family is clearly amerimutt.
>>16382344Don't see why it couldn't. Could even get to Saturn with a stop over at mars orbit for a second refuel provided we have fuel depots there. Infrastructure is everything.
>@ArtemisIchi • 33.7K subscribers • 1 video >@clearusui • 69.3K subscribers • 1K videos
>launch multiple Starships at once>only one has crew while the others are expendable with only fuel on board>fully refuel all Starships in LEO>dock them together>while on route to Jupiter, transfer fuel from expendables to main ship and undock as they empty out>get there fasterPlease tell me I'm a fucking retard and this cannot possibly work.
https://x.com/astro_Pettit/status/1835430176941117701
>>16382376The point is to get there faster
>>16382381wtfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s1p2hkao2E
>>16382373>using whole Starships as droptanks You could, why not
>>16382381As long as they keep failing, every assassination attempt only helps his chances. That said, let's please try to keep politics autism to a minimum.
>>16382381not relevant to spaceflight unless the attempt was made with orbital bombardment, or by the ula sniper
>>16382383Interesting that they're immediately willing to call a duck a duck this time. The last, more obvious one, had every major network skirting around actually calling it an assassination attempt for like 24 hours.
>>16382226>A major X4.5 solar flare was produced by AR 3825 on September 14th, 2024 @ 15:29 UTC. The event was associated with a fast moving halo coronal mass ejection (CME). Although the eruption is directed mostly to the east, the western flank of the plasma cloud does appear Earth directed. A passage past Earth will be possible within 48 hours. >Unsettled to active levels are expected on 15 Sep due to lingeringinfluence from the 11 Sep CME. By midday on 16 Sep, influences from apositive polarity CH HSS, combined with the arrival of the 13 Sep and 14Sep CMEs, are likely to increase conditions to G3 (Strong) storm levels.Combined CME/CH effects are anticipated to persist into 17 Sep, with G2(Moderate) geomagnetic storm conditions likely.>The greater than 2 MeV electron flux is expected to continue at normalto moderate levels, with a chance for high values, through 15 Sep.Values will likely decrease to normal to moderate levels following theanticipated arrival of the 14 Sep CME. There is a slight, yet increasingchance for the 10 MeV proton flux to reach the S1 (Minor) solarradiation storm levels on 15-16 Sep due to influence from the 14 SepX4.5 flare event. Barring an additional event, probabilities willdecrease somewhat on 17 Sep after the arrival of the 14 Sep CME.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfCx2eqaNzM
>>16382390>some random video What the hell youtubehttps://youtu.be/AJKUeGUO5Kk
>>16382393cute little pebble floating by
>>16382387>ula sniperMan I remember autistically poring over that explosion video, trying to map out possible sniper locations based on sound delay and the position of the videographer. I don't know if I was the first one to semi-joke about it being a sniper but a lot of my half-assed early analysis definitely fueled the fire. Those were the days.
>>16382390>>16382393not spaceFLIGHT
an actual spaceflight general
>>16382393Is pavonis mons visually poking out of the atmosphere? that's awesome>>16382399PLEASE don't make me go outside of this thread, /sci/ is a wasteland
spaceflight mentioned
>>16382391
>>16382405actual lol
>>16382407
>>16382407based. Wannabe jannies deserve the rope.
>>16381960>>16382004Not true, the reason is the massive drag crated by the atmosphere.>>16382391metaposts are not spaceflight
>>16382412would it be possible for us to remove the atmosphere?
>>16382414From...the Venus?
what can we do to make earth tidally locked with the sun?
You can't go to mars.
You can't move the sun.
You can't remove the atmosphere.
>Isaacman sold his majority participation on Draken to Blackstone in 2019 to fund the Polaris program.>And he brought a significant amount of Draken executives to work on Polaris. They wouldn't leave Draken to work on a joyride.>He is following the same path he did when founding Draken, with the apparently charity-driven stunts.>His last crew, from Inspiration 4, received way more training than necessary for tourists. And they didn't have previous military or aerospace engineering backgrounds, so it was hard. And unnecessary. Therefore it was done for a reason.do we know who the former execs of draken are?
>astronauts are posting on reddit from the issits over
>>16382405Steve Jurvetson noooo
>>16382434I care
>>16382434cool photo, thank you Mr. Pettit
>>16382420wait a while
>>16382434Reddit is fine for cataloging boring technical details and expert information, second only to specialist forums populated by retired boomers who have nothing better to do.You may not like it, but those old farts criticizing you for using the wrong crimps are the ultimate source of obscure technical information.
>>16382423>>16382426>>16382430I can do anything I want to.
>>16382445No but skimming through the corona would be pretty cool.
>>16382405Had no idea who this was until 2 minutes ago
st jude street added
>>16382401they don't fly in space
>>16382459maybe they should ask for a ride from one of their billionaire MIC buddies
in all honesty they are right and that scares me...
>>16382464Impressive that Sp-GAY-SEX is so far behind but the competition is somehow even fucking worse.
>>16382464ahem. FUCK OFF, RETARD
>>16382464Who would get a crewed vehicle to orbit faster?>government that just landed someone on the moonor>team of autists with $100 million dollars
>>16382464
reminder there's a japanese launch in 5 hours
>>16382478I thought that was scrubbed due to high winds
>>16382454Hopeful and cute, actually. SX is very inspirational
Since the OT5 SS is ready, the longer it take the FAA the less likely the chance of a successful catch attempt.
>>16382515Why? If the arms were gonna work today then they'll probably work tomorrow. That said, abolish the FAA and launch OFT5 tomorrow at dawn.
>>16382515in what way does that make sense? It’s not like the booster and ship are rotting away.
>>16382460crabs don't respect road closures
its a crab vs beetle war
>>16382516>That said, abolish the FAA >You now remember that Cheeto Hitler proposed a NASA plan to open up flight corridors and allow for more efficient air travel but the FAA cried so hard to Congress the plan was shut down.
>>16382485dug your grave
>>16382538When we win we will make the beach private and ban boats and planes from the Starbase vicinity so Starship can launch whenever, and however often it likes.
>>16382542Anyone else agree that a higher launch cadence would actually protect wildlife? If a bird or some other animal sees a starship launching it's not going to build a nest too close. More frequent launches increase the probability of this.
>>16382547If you only launch once every 2 years like SLS then yeah a bunch of wildlife is probably going to nest around your launchsite and get incinerated on the rare occasion that you send a rocket up. Spotted owls don't make nests in Mcdonalds drivethrough.
you now remember that bird that got hit by the space shuttle
>>16382383>>16382381The evil of politics is apparent. The party that advocates killing their political opponents, imprisoning them, tying them with legal hurdles, etc.
>>16382553I’ve really got to unplug from the internet until at least december. I’m trying to avoid this shit but then I go on twitter and get assaulted by schizos, people like mack crawford being turboniggers saying trump deserved it; we’re living in fucking looney clown world and everyone is in their own fantasy trying to gaslight eachother and kill eachother. It’s weird and, frankly, scary. Let earth rot at this point, we are reaching Sodom and Gomorrah levels of filth and all we need from earth now are raw resources and less red tape so we can go build a better society on a (literal) new world.
>>16382556No matter which side you/anons are on, I think what you said is extremely correct. I'm tired, I want to dream and build those dreams.
>>16382559>>16382556We cant plug your ears and shut off your eyes as one side wants to drag down space for political means
>>16382561We mustn't run away.
>>16382556>I just want to ignore all the problems so I can enjoy the things that the problems are preventing from happening
>>16382561I’m consciousness of that. I think it goes without saying that /sfg/ unanimously knows this. I’ll vote accordingly. It just feels like the world is going to shit, is all. And I’m tired of feeling like I am being dragged down with it. We need hope and I don’t know who can deliver that. SpaceX and the dream of a colony is my medicine; but society perhaps needs something more. The roots are now tainted, there’s a systematic disease that has spread to the core of society
>>16382565It'd be cool if a couple hundred of us could just get on a boat and sail towards some unknown, uninhabited land, but that era is in the past. Our only option is offworld, it's the only way to follow the same imperative that led people to find new lands and settle them, now that the map of Earth is all filled in.
>>16382566Imagine zero red tape or overregulation. Unhindered Starship launches, and project Orion corvettes zipping to and from Mars with basically unlimited upmass between the planets. What a future we deny ourselves.
>>16380792>weighted bottomI don't think that would work.
spacex is building the vast module right? do we see spacex opening up a space station division?
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1835501467978842198>A replaceable launch mount is the only course that makes sense. I don’t think you could make an argument that would convince me otherwise.this is what we've been saying all alongreusuable rocketsexpendable launchpads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndGmYNvP6BoScott Manley talks about EVA of Polaris Dawn
>>16382573just build the tower 10 feet higher and launch everything off of a milk stool
>>16382576>Can't see borders from space Oh it's this nonsense again
>>16382568Maybe all intelligent life gets this retarded before it ever gets interplanetary. What a bleak fucking thought.
>>16382568Too bad. Another 10 trillion more to Africa.
>>16382568von Braun absolutely rolling in the grave rn ugh
>>16382556I wonder what's causing this
>>16382576Is he saying its just another fun ride?
>>16382553
>>16382615kinoWhich Apollo mission was that?
this year is kind of mid
>>16382620This is like five or six years’ worth of happenings compared to how things were in the 00s
>>1638261916
>>16382621>IFT-5, and IFT-6 planned for this yearmy rage is immeasurable
>>16382625oops, meant for>>16382620
>>163826202024 is the year of the moon missions[math]\unicode{x2767}[/math]SLIM (landing)[math]\unicode{x2767}[/math]Peregrine 1[math]\unicode{x2767}[/math]IM-1[math]\unicode{x2767}[/math]Chang'e 6[math]\unicode{x2767}[/math]IM-2 (yet to come)
>>16382620https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApMrILhTulI??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2BdNDTlWbo????
>>16382622Nice
What the fuck is Polaris 2 going to be? Eva on the ISS? Rendezvous and docking with a starship?
>>16382636it took them two years to prepare for this mission, so probably two more years for polaris 2
>>16382636they're gonna show up at tiangong with rifles and commandeer it.
>>16382636why not going to GEO? they could take some pretty pictures and break their record once again lol
stop bumping shit threads to push us to page 10 it's legitimately worse than just staging on page 9
staging>>16382658>>16382658>>16382658>>16382658
zubrin status?
>>16382659>page 9here we go again
>>16382659janny deleted a couple of threads. whatever, I stand by my bottom of page 9 stage
>>16382662>>16382661Dont worry about it we will be there soon and it was due to jump to page 10 anyways had janny not deleted. Anon baked a good bread anyways
>>16382660Still seething. Also P10 achieved
>>16381043>Yeah, he was dumb as fuck. Von Braun was the smarty, retard.you should read his book, he was actually really sharp
at this point gwynne should shoot musk so starship isnt grounded forever
>>16382750So which side are you? Russian or Chinese guy looking to hamstring SpaceX, or angry Indian guy who fucked up betting with Crypto?
>>16382758neither, i always have been very pro spacex, and even pro musk regardless of his dumb commentaries, but now there are more chances that spacex gets more damage from musk's literal calls for assassination of highly likely future president and involvement in culture wars than from spacex theoretically decreasing its perfomance in case musk loses direct control of the company
>>16382777>Calls for assassinationIt's an observation on behavior and trends you goof
>>16382579or maybe they have two little regulation and burn out too fast bc elon made diy nukes
>>16382849What the fuck are you talking about?
>>16382579>Maybe all intelligent life gets this retarded before it ever gets interplanetarylife is on a race against the clock as soon as it drops darwinian selection pressures. people have completely random genetic mutations with absolutely no filter now. 95%+ of mutations are bad mutations because we were already very well tuned life forms by our environment. we need to advance tech faster than genetic decay can advance, and it is not clear what will win. even if we gain mastery over the human genome, that is a whole pandoras box which will destroy us. the elite will use gene editing to destroy human conciousness among the lower classes and create a cattle race. eventually they will interbreed withthe cattle race and human conciousness will be lost forever.
>>16382578is that iraq/iran?
>>16382552I remember the bird that got hit by Randy Johnson
>>16382571yeah
>>16382849retard>>16383048scary thought
>>16383050Haiti/Dominican Republic.
