Starship EditionPreviously >>16414200
Should I share this on /pol/ for more engagement, since ift5 is coming up?
>early staginghmmmm no very unwise
photos of new Russian spacecraft just leaked
>>16417124Yes, ill be sharing it too
Now we image dump
>>16417124No that was not a good idea last time. Lets keep it on the downlow this time, there will probably be a launch thread anyways separately.>>16417125Image limit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki5UBcXOIUs>Starship Raptor Reliability - The Wonder of Engine-Out Redundancyreposting
>>16417133stupid faggot
>>16417135
>>16417124Absolutely, share far and wide. Make sure to post in the NSF discord and so on
>>16417124
Ayo fuck the FAA
Why do muskrats and /sfg/ pretend this never happened?
>>16417143it happened, it doesn't matterthings change
>>16417125hot staged this biatchSo the FAA won't let me beOr let me be me so let me seeThey try to shut me down on launch dayBut it feels so empty without me
>>16417124Might as well do /vt/ too.
>>16417143this was 26 years ago
>>16417143Who's the fat ugly dude?
>>16417124try porn boards toowe've been gooning for past 2 weeks, they have things to learn
What are your guys home remedies for acid reflux?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1843903981480980642
>>16417074>>16417080Sounds really safe, I'm ready for my dose of these.Jarred would do it.
>>16417170drink more water
>>16417170Lose some weight, eat a diet that doesn't induce it, drink less soda and more water Could be a symptom of an ulcer or something more problematic (unlikely)
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1843904728679514330
>>16417143It happened 37 years ago, people change
>>16417170Just buy Omeprazole you cheap fuck
>Using N2O4 Pentaborane propellent to establish a colony on ErisWhy hasn't anyone done this yet?
>>16417147thought this was estronaut doing the "that's insane" pose from the thumbnail
>>16417119MEANWHILE, AT NASA*thunderclap*
>>16417183The rocket industry is full of pussies for never taking boranes seriously>Ow, the fuel is too spicyGrow up.
>>16417181everyone just wants me to spend money like spending money solves my problems
>>16417194you should make an FGC-9 from hardware store parts and ECM your own barrel
In a week we'll be complaining about FAA once again
Is it possible for Trump's DOJ to arrest FAA oficials for treason and hang them? or at least tar and feather them
>>16417199Assuming all goes well, at what point in the IFT process does the FAA step in for a lengthy review again? First time the ship tries to establish orbit? First ship landing?
>>16417202Ship catch attempt, obviously
>>16417124Yeah. Everyone deserves to behold the wonders of spacex
>>16417199I do that daily regardless
>>16417199"I am once again asking for your bureaucratic support"
We are going ! https://x.com/i/status/1843656482254139602
>>16417126I actually can't tell if I'm being trolled here.
>>16417170Definitely don't go to space.Microgravity isn't going to be nice for that.
>>16417126>RIP-1this is an MST3K gag isn't it
>>16417170mineral water
>>16417126when will we get space crates for reals TwT
https://x.com/mikusingularity/status/1843814456306085955
>>16417254These are the people that others want to go to Mars to get away from.
>>16417254
>>16417256>>16417255yes, this authoritarian bent seems quite commoncommunists built walls to stop people from leaving
I don't give a fuck what cunts are posting on twitter
>>16417254it's a woman it wouldn't understand
>>16417257I believe the problem with "settler-colonialism" was the colonialism part, not the colony part you dumb cunt
>>16417274Martian rocks have feelings too!
>>16417274communists think the people are the property of the state a bit like the serfs were under feudal kings
>>16417274There was no problem. Savages only deserved an eradication that sadly wasn't carried out
>>16417290yep, imagine if every colony made by european powers turned out like australia and new zealand, only this time with zero surviving abbos.the world would be a better place.
>>16417119GOOD MORNING ELON SISTERS!!SO EXCITED FOR ANOTHER EXPLODING COCK ROCKET LAUNCH!.....hmmm I mean, valuable learning experience.CAN'T WAIT TO BE ON MARS! IT'S HAPPENING!
>>16417124kill yourself
>>16417310GOOD MORNING SAAR
>>16417124What's this? Are we finally IFT5? Please don't play with my feelings.
>>16417317https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1843435573861875781https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-5Sunday, there are a bunch of supporting signs for this too other than this post, like NOTAMs (which are posted by FAA), road closing, two different space journalists saying there are rumours about something happening (Berger and Davenport), a lot of trucks coming in to the propellant depot, all the preflight testing done for the ship and boosterthe only thing that is left is installing the FTS charges and getting the actual license, which they could get on the same day
>>16417317good morning oortposter
>>16417119>>16417147>>16417259>>16417321
>>16417324Unironically cat has better chance of making a stable orbit than StarShit.
>>16417306white africa would be a place with endless cheap property and would be a great pace for space launch with very little red tape
>>16417124if you want 50 posts per minute from guys that don't know anything about rockets, you can just make a thread there and NOT link it here! it's that simple!
>>16417321Thank you anon. This has made my day.
>>16417124lmao half of /pol/ thinks space is fake and ghey or somethingi would rather not have flerf autists in this thread
>>16417349Thats /x/ not /pol/
>>16417354there's so much overlap they might as well be the same thing desu
>>16417349Only CIA shills make flerf posts
>>16417354This >>16417356. Whether it's constant raids or indigenous retardation, science threads on /pol/ are a lost cause. I miss the days of Space Elevator.
>>16417362
>>16417171This is both very charitable and extremely shrewd. They can prove the technology works, get test data and demonstrate lack of interference with other users, and denying their request is politically impossible.
>>16416978Looks ok. Kinda retarded but I think you'll get used to it. Running should work ok.https://youtu.be/LvnDIDqcfGI
>>16417371yeahand even if there is some inference, in the very least FCC should let them work in areas with no other cell coverage because who would the interference be with?
Milton looks like nothingburger lmao
>>16417399Can the cape continue operations throughout without interruption?
>>16417399I know what needs to be known, I just obviously can't leave a sign properly.
>>16417400No, Windspeed more than anything is going to shut down KSC until it passes over.It's not likely not going to be a Cat 5 when it makes landfall but the storm surge is going to fuck up the coast, say bye to Port Charlotte.
>>16417405when is it expected to hit?
>>16417405I don't live there, but I know I'm paying a fortune for their fucking beach paradise land and yachts through taxes and insurance rates, all the way from fucking Chicago.Fuck the coast. New law should be, anyone who gets flooded officially loses the deed to that property, its seized as a no buildings zone forever. Fuck you, stop building in coastal swamps.
https://x.com/BocaRoad/status/1843995096343101714
Realistically, how are they supposed to get dozens of launches a day if they have to close a beach every time they launch?
>>16417411https://zoom.earth/storms/milton-2024It looks like weaken a lot from last satellite image.
>>16417416Permanently close the beach? Easy
>>16417124Yeah we all want an entire day of this general being unusable followed by a week of arguments about nuclear thermal propulsion and asteroid mining. Faggot
>>16417418Yup, its called a roadblock. Only SpaceX traffic can pass, and on open days for visitors, everyone entering needs to be fitted with an ankle bracelet tracking device.They can still open it up once in a while.
>>16417414Why so late when the launch window opens at 7:00 am, according the website of SpaceX?https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYEPIMC8JAo
>>16417191Ahem. Boran fuels had significant downsides, including being highly toxic and poor cold temperature handling. And the theoretical increased energy density turned out to be marginal in practice.Far worse for Boron jet fuels, because there was a major coking problem.
>>16417435Takes a long time to evacuate all the illegals, swimming across the Rio Grande from Mexico. Theyre not sending their best. They all need to GTFO before the massive fueling operation. Only the red team can approach.
>>16417435if you mean why closure until 2pm - in case of debris cleanup and confirming the site isn't contaminated with toxic chemicals
Looks like a mars hab-dome mural is being put up on the Starbase parking garage
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1844005557142986841>Awesome new Martian glass dome habitat mural is being revealed on the side wall of the Starbase parking garage. Wow!>10/9/24>>16417450lol was just posting this 5s too late
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1843736261519184072>Closer look at Starship 30's engine bay today. >10/8/24
https://x.com/genna_hammer/status/1844002709965557844>10.09.2024 - Sunrise at production with a new decal on the garage
https://x.com/RoughRidersShow/status/1844001791748534700>Space Coast is starting to see the outer bands of Hurricane Milton. We are keeping an eye for as long as our bots can stay online during the storm! Milton will be a CAT 2 (100MPH) by the time it passes the cape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8wRjD3xVACAT-2 sounds pretty bad
>>16417450imagine making a geodesic dome for Mars but accidently designing it based on Earth's dimensions and not Mars'also dome is retard-tierellipse is the way to go
>>16417456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
>>16417435
Someone is excited. Hope he's not too disappointed in six months when the bearings seize and electronics fail.
Old news but reading the comment section on https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/faa-spacex-regulatory-dispute-simmers-on-as-sides-dig-in has me really depressed. These are the people I share a planet with. Presumably of above-average intelligence to be subscribed to something as "technical" as Ars. How did we fall so low? Surely, things weren't always this bad?
>>16417464why are fags here obsessed with this larper?
>>16417465if you look at the upvote/downvote ratio its like 60/40 most of the time on the retarded comments
>>16417456Cat 2 is baby shit.
>>16417469with larper you mean Eric Berger?what is he larping?
>>16417474He makes /pol/fags seethe.
>>16417321YESdelay between flights will be shorter and shorter in the future!hopefully civilization doesn't collapse first.
>>16417321some articles about it if you want to be spoonfed more and haven't been following thingshttps://arstechnica.com/science/2024/10/spacexs-next-starship-launch-and-first-catch-could-happen-this-weekend/https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/spacex-starship-faa-license-sunday-launch.html
Unless they can do Mars sample return with a cubesat, no -- they can't.
Hmm, what planet/moon should I set my wallpaper as next week? This week, my lock screen was the atmosphere view of Pluto, and my home was Jupiter.
https://spacenews.com/startup-takes-new-approach-to-space-based-solar-power/>Aetherflux announced Oct. 9 plans to develop and ultimately deploy a constellation of satellites in low Earth orbit that will collect solar power and beam it to Earth using infrared lasers. The company is planning to demonstrate this technology with a small satellite launching by early 2026. >The concept is a departure from many previous concepts for space-based solar power (SBSP), which have involved large arrays in geostationary orbit. Those systems would transmit their power using microwaves to large rectennas on the ground. Such concepts have been studied for more than half a century but have not advanced beyond the drawing board. Space based solar power startup but beaming it down with infrared lasers instead of the usual microwaves
>>16417481plan: use Starship
>>16417321>The fifth flight test of Starship will aim to take another step towards full and rapid reusability. The primary objectives will be attempting the first ever return to launch site and catch of the Super Heavy booster and another Starship reentry and landing burn, aiming for an on-target splashdown of Starship in the Indian Ocean.Stop... I can't be more erect than this
>>16417464>The NASA administrator at the time, Sean O'Keefe, sought to develop a new generation of spacecraft powered by nuclear reactors as part of what he called Project Prometheus. He believed that a mission with Europa as its main target offered a perfect test case for the technology, and thus, the Jupiter Icy Moons Orbiter was born. This was a highly ambitious mission. A typical spacecraft uses on the order of a few hundred watts of power. This probe, powered by a nuclear reactor, would have had on the order of 100,000 watts of power.what could have been
>>16417254Faggots like that should be killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-k8QjIF-uI
>>16417489what could you conceivably do with that much electrical power though (in terms of science payload)
>>16417254all marxists should be exterminated
>>16417495GPR to see how thick the ice layer is
>>16417484Or -- you could just lay out solar panels and use the infrared from that giant glowing ball of hydrogen in the sky.NB4 but at night! Use a battery.
>>16417485>SpaceX just dropping a souped-up remote controlled Cat 336 excavator on Mars and bringing home 100 tons of rocks
>>16417481Rocketlab builds reasonably sized satellites, they just don’t launch them on their own rockets.
>>16417484>send brick into space>solar energy heats up brick>brick emits infrared electromagnetic waves>Electromagnetic waves go down to earths surface
>>16417510lmao
>>16417464> Now chairman of the all-important budget subcommittee, Culberson began making periodic trips to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California. To the mortification of NASA's senior leaders and communications officials, Culberson decided to invite me to come along for sessions that would last a day or two. There were no restrictions. I got to sit in on all the meetings, hear the discussions, and even participate at times.*cough* one motel room *cough*
>>16417412reasonable take
>>16417481It's that easy in sample returny.
>>16417450>domeI'm fucking seething
>>16417451Holy shit some Indian hit the "convert to vector" button on a shitty jpeg and they blew it up to several dozen feet. This is so shit it's embarrassing
>>16417523two Neutron launches in 2028, a earth return orbiter spacecraft, a lander with MAV(?)wasn't Impulse Space doing some kind of mars lander with relativity space or someone else? Rocketlab could contract the lander out to them, do the orbiter themselves (they have been doing spacecraft now)I think it might be somewhat realistic if they get Neutron launching, though not sure if there is a point with Starship on the horizonat this point it seems likely that Starship is going to become operational before Neutron
>>16417523LOL, go for it. They need a reason to live, let them have this onev884w
>>16417523> Don't use Falcon. Use our rocket that hasn't even flown yet!Pretty transparent grift.
>>16417531If NASA was based they would have the top 3 MSR proposals race to get some moon rocks"Whoever puts some new moon rocks on my desk first gets the mars contract"
>>16417523Note that this is architecturally almost identical to nasa’s current msr but 1/5 the cost and gets samples back 7 years sooner.
>>16417484>Why pay $0.15/kWh when you could pay $20,000/kWh instead?>This guy's a genius! Fund his startup immediately!
SpaceX is going to be first to Mars and with a sample return regardless of NASA's bullshit, but they will NOT be allowed in Jezero Crater, and they wont be allowed to grab the samples from Perseverance.So what, there are more interesting places to drop a few dozen Starships!Gotta grab that land that is truly wanted. Fuck Jezero and its tiny test tubes
FTS , I REPEAT , FTS INSTALLATION UNDERWAY
>>16417535MSR is not possible without SLS. You might disagree. You might even have evidence to the contrary. But you have to ask yourself: is this really worth losing my budget over? MSR is not possible without SLS.
>>16417537Starship should just grab one of the landers and yeet it into the sun
>>16417482I use a pitch black screen to simulate being in an intergalactic void
As a tax payer I want NASA to put preference to SLS over starship
>>16417538nice
I don't pay taxes and I'm still insulted by SLS
save commercial space stations
how many stars do we reckon exist in intergalactic space? "astronomers" say they dont exist, but they were wrong about planet mass objects in interstellar space. I dont see why a star mass gas cloud cant condense into a star in intergalactic space.
can musk do people to mars by the end of drumps term?
>>16417552no, but might be able launch them towards mars before trumps term ends
>>16417552Anon trumps last year in office was and will be 2021
>>16417557Dude, let a frog dream.Life in the swamp is so sort, seems like yesterday we were all just tadpoles.
>>16417549I bet that intergalactic space is positively lousy with rogue planets, maybe even more worlds than there are around stars. We would have no way of knowing, yet.
fags
>>16417538ids habbening1!1!!!1!
Reminder, if you haven't read the book Atlas Shrugged or watched the movie, you're missing out on what happening in the current space world
>>16417561Implying 1 is nearby !
>>16417559A pet theory of mine is that many, possibly even most “star” systems don’t have a star at all. That many protoplanetary disks only have enough mass for a system the size of jupiter and its moons.These could be extremely common but we wouldn’t know as they would emit no visible light and likely be almost undetectable to other methods like radio telescopes.
>>16417456>cat2nothingberger
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1844030056856961316>Ship 30 FTS explosives are now being installed also! Let's go flight 5!>10/9/24
>>16417568>failure-to-launch systemsWhat lonely places those must be
>>16417535That's why it's not a credible plan, even before they put up the powerpoints of concept drawings.
Bros why was the HR woman in the job interview with me? She asked me "what would your friends describe you as" and I started fumbling over my words and stuttering trying to think of something to say? It was a job interview for an engineer position.
>>16417562>muh lolbertarian fantasy and objectivist slop SpaceX would have failed if they didn't get bailed out by NASA or get selected for commercial resupply
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1844002944460415184
>>16417578> Asked if Tesla being a nonunion company was the reason it wasn’t included Thursday, Psaki replied, “Well, these are the three largest employers of the United Auto Workers, so I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.” Oh -- SNAP!
>>16417574those gas giants could be the last unborn stars in the universe eventually
>>16417578This is also nonsense trying to make it "personal" when we all know its about Tesla as a company, SpaceX as a company, and all that. Musk himself is a frontman for his companies. So he will be damn man when anyone tries to snub his companies. Lot of hard work went into that and for the government not only sub them in PR but also try to snub them through legeslative actions, through frivolous lawsuits, through lawfare, through regulatory delays, etc. Democrat is a party of evil.
>>16417585yeah they are trying to frame this as Musk being personally hurt is why he started supporting Trumpits about policies, the personal animosity from democrats is really just a cherry on top of that and a result of musk disagreeing with their policies (unions with the EV thing for instance, but generally big government)
>>16417585>>16417587>n-no it's because we hurt his feelings:(If they could ever admit they fucked up, they'd be real force to be reckoned with
>>16417587to add to this, I think Musk has a long memory but doesn't necessarily hold grudgesfor instance he seems to be on pretty good terms with Thiel and Sacks even though they were involved with couping as a CEO of Paypal
>>16417592I think to an extent thiel being politically aligned with musk helps in that respect.
>>16417374definitely going to need something that helps you maintain balance and a lower center of gravity so you dont fall over. mars wont be doable for fat people.
>>16417254>>16417255>>16417256>>16417257>>16417273>What are you trying to tell me? That I can check the "Early Life" section on their wikipedia page?[or their gofund me for 'transition']?[or their job as a Starbucks barista]?[or pedo flags in their twitter?]? >No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.This person exemplifies the crab bucket mindset. Life will be excellent off Earth because we won't have these kinds of people with us.
>>16417576Now they know you don't have any friends, and are a stuttering autist.You're perfect, expect an offer.
>>16417595oh it was a tranny, lol
>>16417578there's a reason why corruption is considered the number 1 problem for most governments. hopefully mars is able to keep it minimal.
>>16417595We'll have wrought heaven from radiation scoured rocks while our God given Eden descends into hell. It's a strange feel. I find it difficult to imagine a long term future where the Earth isn't cleansed from orbit.
>>16417595everytime based ragebaiter troon
>>16417452those look like vaccuum bells without any additional stiffening.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/1fy10k1/tracking_musk_in_the_military_industrial_complex/
>>16417600The end-goal is making every rocky body possible into little Earths. Yes, ALL of them. Turn every rock into a beautiful place, that is what humans are for.
>>16417607I forced myself to read it, there is zero substance to any of this. They are missing out on why Musk was talking with military or why he wants to make money and then make some claims. Literally a waste of my 2 minutes of my life. Why did you waste my time?
>>16417464All these moons are yours, except Europa. Make no landings here.
>>16417608Instead of terraforming every world, wouldn’t it be easier to just venusform earth and call it a day?
>>16417616That WOULD be easier, but why would you do that? That would reduce the number of beautiful worlds in the Sol system from 1 to 0, my intent is to increase the number instead. 5, 10, 20 worlds with grass and trees and summer breezes and rain, whole ecologies planted like seeds on every world.
Drumpf will lose, Felon will cry, both will go to jail, SpaceX will be nationalized, Blue Origin will hire diversity and you wont do anything about it racists
>>16417608Look at all that wasted material. You could turn Venus into 4.5 trillion cylinders with ~2 million times the surface area
>>16417620oh no its over
>>16417620Oh well, at least we get to watch one catch attempt before the starship project is canned and falcon goes back to 30 launches a year.
>>16417620-trolling outside of /b/-extremely low quality-this user is underaged
>>16417608Terraforming is evil because it will create a new world full with retarded animals who will suffer immensely and cant help themselves.
>>16417622We will do both. Once it is discovered that the minimum gravity for long term human health is 0.3785 G mercury and all planets smaller than it will be turned into toobs.
>>16417484Why must it always go back to urf? Has anyone ever come up with a space-to-space power system that could maintain other things in orbit?
>>16417620Trump will lose, Elon will not go to jail (but will bitch on Xitter), Trump will retire, SpaceX will not be nationalized since the USA doesn't do that, Blue Origin will be a comfy 4th place launch provider for the USA
>>16417568its obvious that you are right. For some reason astronomers said planet sized systems dont form because 'muh theories', even though it was obvious. And now that they have detected jupiter mass systems they claim that smaller systems dont form. Clown world. Considering that the smaller a star is the more common it is observed in the universe, there is no reason to believe that this law doesnt apply to objects smaller than stars. Red dwarfs are observed to be 3x more common than all other stars combined, even though they are much dimmer and harder to detect. Its clear what the implication is for objects smaller than stars.
https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1844014080102629517delete the FAA
>>16417631A laser array could technically keep things in, but also push things out of orbit
>>16417635literally who?
>>16417631That's also stupid but Star Catcher already got money for that
>>16417638Indian psychopath that fooled a bunch of Republicans
>>16417638The Republican street shitter not married to Vance.
I'm feeling the vital energy return. Again time unpaused and we move forward. We're so back bros
>>16417633All according to plan
>>16417634This does not bode well for interstellar travel. Such a universe would make relativistic journeys that don't end with you turning into a cloud of gamma rays very difficult
>>16417642we zijn zo terug
>>16417637Laser propulsion is based, GL slowing down at the other end though lmao
>>16417645Just means incremental laser highways are the way to go
Applying spectral analysis to the Atlantic and Pacific hurricane time series, we found periodicities that coincide with the main sunspot and magnetic solar cycles. To assess the possibility that these periodicities could be associated with solar activity, we obtain correlations between hurricane occurrence and several solar activity-related phenomena, such as the total solar irradiance, the cosmic ray flux and the Dst index of geomagnetic activity. Our results indicate that the highest significant correlations are found between the Atlantic and Pacific hurricanes and the Dst index. Most importantly, both oceans present the highest hurricane–Dst correlations during the ascending part of odd solar cycles and the descending phase of even solar cycles. This shows not only the existence of a 22 yr cycle but also the nature of such periodicity. Furthermore, we found that the Atlantic hurricanes behave differently from the Pacific hurricanes in relation to the solar activity-related disturbances considered.Applying wavelet spectral analysis to the hurricane time series, we found periodicities that coincide with the main sunspot and magnetic solar cycles. In the Atlantic Ocean there are peaks near 11 and 22 yr. The Pacific Ocean time series is not long enough to allow the identification of the 22 yr cycle, however the 11 yr cycle clearly appears.>A 22 yr hurricane cycle and its relation with geomagnetic activity>Mendoza, Pazos 2009
>>16417638Republican presidential candidate, entrepreneur, connected with JD Vance and Peter Thiel, has discussed the government efficiency commision with Muskmight become a cabinet member I guesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e5nRG7u7w4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZvagIhH27nQFor a better understanding
>>16417645Is this the real reason why we don't see expansionist aliens? Interstellar Kessler fields?
>>16417653If it were true then even more reason to build a dyson (that we haven't seen) and of course it's also just a numbers game so sending out as many self replicating drones as you can is still viable
>>16417653No that's probably because the chances of life arising twice within a 40 billion light year sphere is near zero
>>16417627That's not evil, that's the opposite of evil. Life should be spread as far and wide as possible, only through living things can the universe understand itself and find purpose.
>>16417657multicellular life anyway. prokaryote esque life appears on any body that accidentally gets half decent conditions for even a few thousand years.
>>16417657>the chances of life arising twice within a 40 billion light year sphere is near zeroShove that estimate back up your ass where you found it
>>16417660We'll have to see. I'm taking the (just perfect sized) moon gravity being crucial for early life theory more seriously.
reminder starbase is located within 100 miles of the border, which means the kamala regime can use an executive order (like trump did in portland) to send security teams from federal agencies to crack down on starbase.expect things like snap inspections, seizure and destruction of equipment and computers, shutting down operations for weeks on end, shutting down NSF / labpadre / media's camera access. FAA dragging their feet is just the tip of the harassment iceberg.
>>16417657Well be enjoying Europa-sourced alien kalamari soon, I guarantee you
>>16417664Why do you keep posting this shit?
>>16417645even with generous estimates the interstellar medium is not empty enough to allow for safe relativistic travel. you would need a gigantic ablative shield to survive small objects, and forget stopping anything rock sized. something like breakthough starshot might make it to another star because its so small that objects will pass right through it like that particle through the janitors head when he stuck it in the particle collider
>>16417664you are a retarded schizo who found this place through the nu/pol/ links spammer obv.
>>16417656there isnt enough useable material in a sta system to make a dyson sphere. material in gas giants is locked away forever so you dont have much to work with
>>16417669you can ionize the atmosphere and suck it out bit by bit using magnets, dummy.you can even build a ring around it and have the magnets suck out atmosphere on either side to prevent you from needing fuel to keep them in orbit.
>>16417669>material in gas giants is locked awayHeat them up by moving them closer to the sun
>>16417660I'm guessing you're using Earth's apparent history as an example, but there's a statistical fallacy in your interpretation due to only having one data point. It could be that perfect conditions on a perfect planet only exist for a millennia sandwiched after sufficient cooling and before too much abiotic sequestration. In this case, life on Earth arose nearly instantly in cosmic terms, but it couldn't have arisen at any other point. We got incomprehensibly lucky. >>16417661>noooo I want to fuck a blue girl like in my slop>>16417665I wish but I doubt it>>16417669Just spin the gas giant until the atmosphere flies off and the surface gravity at the equator is near zero. You can do this with available matter.
>>16417576kek
>>16417672>>16417673>>16417674do it (you wont)
tornados beginning to touch down in Floridatrack beginning to creep north
Can I get a quick rundown on the Florida situation?
>>16417676I'm busy that day
>>16417676i never said it would, but someone else will.
>>16417676I’m currently preoccupied running my martian air mattress factory.
>>16417657there's really not enough information on abiogenesis to give any kind of probabilitiescould be that life develops pretty much wherever possible or that closest to us is trillions of hubble volumes away
>>16417678god had to decide which rocket he should destroy using his hurricane.he chose to destroy SLS.milton hanging around the yucatan peninsula for a while was just god taking a second to ponder his decision.
>>16417678it's over for florida... it will be a wasteland after tomorrow thoughever, the presidental candidates will try to score points with whoever's left and that will decide the election
>>16417674Your dismissal is worthless and your theories baseless.
Netherlands: Builds wast array of dykes and pumping stations to prevent floodingFlorida: gets devastated by a hurricane every 5 years
>>16417689The rebuilding is good for the economy
>>16417678
>>16417688>baselessIt's worth looking up what needs to transpire for the simplest self replicating molecule to arise. A galaxy of Earths each with an ocean of primordial soup for billion years may not get there.We only have one data point. Why would you be so certain that it's written into physics that life is likely to arise within the light come of another?
New Glenn is interesting for its size (bigger than contemporary rockets but smaller than Starship/Saturn). Has there been anything else?
>>16417689i've said this previously but netherlands' experience with large scale land altering projects and environmental control in their high efficiency greenhouse farms would make them perfect terraformers. we're sadly going to have to share our starship with ik ooks if we want to have any chance of terraforming the planet.
>>16417697>We only have one data pointWe have 2. We exist and we also haven't independently replicated creating new life (at casual amounts of societal expended effort).
>>16417699>dutchies generate a habitable atmosphere on Mars>send earth a tikkie
>>16417697>It's worth looking up what needs to transpire for the simplest self replicating molecule to ariseBiochemists working on origins of life are completely clueless and/or divided about this, so please enlighten us, where to look up this information?
>>16417699gib tikkie
>>16417698In its size class? It’s pretty close to the exact same size as SLS.
>>16417702i'd rather think dutch colonists will camp out a large area on the northern hemisphere of mars and camp it out for hundreds of years with dams already in place.then when the ocean starts to appear, they're going to be the largest island nation on mars.
>>16417706wow New Glenn is pretty large
>>16417706>SLSYeah I meant size class, and SLS explains why I couldn't think of anything else.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6K7KXT0FP6QWeathercams
>>16417330instead of fighting WW1 the great powers should have landed a couple million men in North Africa and had them march south line-abreast taking a shot at any jungle bunny they encountered, by the time they reached South Africa and the ships to take them home they could have eliminated Africa's (and now the world's) biggest problem forever
>>16417713It was never a problem, just stop giving them aid or giving a shit what happens there.
>>16417713agreed and based.
>>16417697>Why would you be so certain?No, (you)
>>16417689Florida has 5x the coastline and the Netherlands doesn't get hurricanes>>16417704The simplest we know of is RNA with around 100 different proteins. They need to be the right proteins and they need to be in the right order. The likelihood of such a thing arising spontaneously might mean we're a million observable universe widths from the next point where it arose, which is a frozen graveyard where it didn't bounce back after oxygenation, a world where vital elements were sequestered too quickly, or a world whose red dwarf star scoured it one too many times. It might be that the closest intelligent life is a trillion trillion light years away, and they just had their last war. The universe is cold and dead and empty and we're the only light
new forecast indicate landfall around 8 PMthat's 5 hours sooner than indicted last night
>>16417538Do you know how awesome that job is?You get to carry fucking explosives and get paid good money to do it. No long hours, no hard manual labor.If you fuck up, you won't even know what happened.
>>16417722The universe is teeming with life, and if it isn't then we will alter it until it is. This is the purpose of living things. The universe with no observer doesn't need to exist, life IS the most important part of creation.
>>16417538>>16417573We are so fucking back, boys
>>16417722the netherlands has the potential for equally awful storm surgest because the north sea acts as a nice runway.
>>16417723>tornadoes before the main eventIt's over for Florida
>>16417733>equallyNo. There's a reason these storms get names and the attention they do.>potentialIn other words it has never occurred.
>>16417678Nobody is cleaning those windows ? JANNYYYYY
>>16417731It isn't, but it should be. There's a nearly divine purpose in our expansion
>>16417596>Now they know you don't have any friends, and are a stuttering autist.on point
>>16417737y-you realize that europe also gets storms with hurricane force winds, right?extratropical cyclones or european windstorms are extremely common and many can be just as dangerous.
>>16417651Nah, Trump will appoint retarded neocons like Bolton and Pompeo again. Vivek will probably become the next governor of Ohio.
>>16417737yuro's also name their storms lol.there's a reason why countries like netherlands belgium and even some parts of england need the protection they do anon, i feel like this is some weird nascent cope for dealing with the fact that they adequately protect themselves and florida doesn't even try. wherever americans aren't nr 1 we try and pretend that we>didn't need it anywaywhen we very much do.
>>16417744I don't think of Europe at all (except how the ESA has failed humanity)
>>16417751I keep forgetting ESA even existt. yuropean
>>16417443Scrub due to wayward caravan
>>16417740There is no point to the universe if nobody's around to look at it, therefore life IS the most important part of reality. If the universe is empty, it's only because it's an unfinished work.>>16417747Everything you post sucks and everyone can tell when it's (you)
>>16417744We also get the remnants of American hurricanes. Right now it's windy as fuck here and the weather is 12 degrees above the average due to it.
>>16417753ESA occasionally sends out cool planetary science missions and that's about the only thing they do that's even worth mentioning at allt. also european
>>16417533Every MSR proposal uses aerobraking so you'd need different lander delivery.
>>16417759are you french? i'm assuming you're dealing with what's left of hurricane kirk rn?
Power systems: Possible widespread voltage control problems and some protective systems will mistakenly trip out key assets from the grid.Spacecraft operations: May experience surface charging and tracking problems, corrections may be needed for orientation problems.Other systems: Induced pipeline currents affect preventive measures, HF radio propagation sporadic, satellite navigation degraded for hours, low-frequency radio navigation disrupted, and aurora has been seen as low as Alabama and northern California (typically 45° geomagnetic lat.).https://x.com/nwsswpc/status/1843993315101814871
>>16417744You do, as do we. What you don't get is cat 5 winds, or even cat 3 beyond an occasional extreme percentile gust. Winter storms simply do not compare to major tropical cyclones. The fastest recorded non tornadic wind gust on earth occured in the US by the way.>>16417750>w-we also name our stormsNo one cares.
>>16417626Im akshually 20
>>16417764space weather is a nothingburger
>>16417766you cared enough to reply.anyway there's no reason for florida not to have flood protection.
>>16417620I will commit a national tragedy if that happens
tower catch will succeed and this will cause panic amongst EDS sufferers.
>>16417771>just build 5 meter high concrete walls around the entire stateEven if that wasn't retarded the NIMBYs and tree huggers would never allow it.
>>16417780>just build 5 meter high concrete walls around the entire stateis that what the dutch do?
>>16417781DELTAWERKENELTAWERKEN
they just DDOS the National Weather Service
>>16417713In the short term they valued the profits from their colonies too much.We will be running into a similar situation with south and south east asia in the coming decades.
>>16417777It wouldn't be tragic, it'd be righteous>>16417778Please God let this happen because it'd be so fucking funny>>16417780Fuck the walls, just build out of solid stone blocks, every structure. Building out of particle board and plywood is retarded in general, but suicidal if you live in hurricane country.
>"An FAA license is not required for space activities the government carries out for the government, such as some NASA or Department of Defense launches. The Europa Clipper mission is being done by and for NASA.."Then why dont FAA fuck off with Starship delays?
>>16417801Lawfare
>>16417801Because the FAA is intentionally stalling Starship.
>>16417778yes
How high do you think the suicide rate will be on Mars?
>>164178160%
>>16417816Lower than earth
>>16417816I think about this a lot. Making it a pleasant place to live will be more important for preventing deaths than radiation shielding. There are a few ways to do it, but SpaceX's aesthetics are fucking abysmal right now so my hope is waning >>16417451 >>16417528
>>16417816not having to deal with niggers and non-sentient people that don't have an internal monologue would drastically lower suicide rates.
>>16417801Erm you aren't supposed to point out that starship is HLS and every test flight is technically a test flight for NASA, bootlickers would hate their precious bureaucrats looking bad.
>>16417816Negative, Mars will have an 8.0 fertility rate
>>16417816low, because they're going to psychologically profile anyone who applies to weed out the wackos
>>16417824The Antarctic bases are a good way to prove you wrong. All smart and driven scientists that zone out during winter
>>16417840They make those diverse for whatever reason
>>16417816>wishing to stop livingWeak, you always endure.
>Sloan Great WallWhat goes on out there?
Daily reminder that there's no reason to go to Mars
>>16417840What do you mean by zone out?
>>16417850But you just gave me one
>>16417849it was an ordered galactic wall structure built to keep us safe by the forecursors.but it was sloan by...something.
>>16417850Way less ethnics there
>>16417850daily reminded that nobody cares what you think.
>>16417851winter-over syndrome>>16417850Then don't go lol
>Starship, Falcon Heavy/Europa Clipper, Crew-8 departure all on the same dayit might be the busiest day we've ever had
daily reminder that SpaceX is about to land a building sized steel tube on another building and the real space age is about to start
>>16417860winter-over syndrome is the reason why only happy, sexually active couples should be sent to mars.cuddles solves everything
>>16417864>insert how men photograph thing they like vs how women photograph thing they like meme
>>16417864>tattoos Please face the airlock
>>16417864Too mid to be in the same shot
>>16417868
>>16417864obese beaner
>>16417864>>16417868
>>16417744Here in Croatia in places we regularly get 150km/h winds. Maybe the Floridians are just retarded for building wooden sheds 50 cm above sea level?
>>16417873At least you can see the ship, and it's actually the main focus
>>16417816https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE618hgsj8k
>>16417868The one where the men have their ungroomed feet in it with a couple ironic bad dragon dildos?
>>16417849>1 billion lightyears away>1.3 billion lightyears longHow do you even measure this shit when we have trouble getting details from things less than 1 lightyear away from us
>>16417777problematic
So if this asteroid redirection technology works can we latch onto asteroids made out of gold and platinum and crash land them into the moon to mine?
>>16417884PPO says hello.
>>16417884Makes more sense to leave them in martian orbit
>>16417881https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQk-6rPfCoVXn6QP5vI7b-6-vkSDenO82yd9w&s
>>16417884No because that's stupid They've already been crashing into the moon for a billion years, you can drive around and pick up the pieces without putting them there yourself >>16417888It makes sense to completely ignore them. There are rocks already down the well
>>16417882Blueshift and spectrometery.Once you understand spectrometery, you really stop coping and accept there are no ayys.
I dont want Mars, why nobody says the dark side of Mercury ???-Infinite ultra high efficient energy (solar)-Radiation protection (dark side is protected - maybe cosmic rad. but whatever)-Super metal rich materials -Deep in the gravity well of the sun = protected from space pirates and FAA
>>16417850Correct. We should be focusing on Mercury.
>>16417119British Galactic Empire when?
>>16417880YOU WILL GO TO MARS
>>16417873this guy isn't wearing provocative clothing in a provocative pose and blocking the direct view of starship.also he's not in focus, whereas the whore beaner is.
>>16417884in principle I guess if you are able to affect the orbit of an asteroid you should be able to affect in a way that makes it crash into the moon
>>16417903HAHAwe can't even afford a new railway
>>16417903Spaceport on the Falkland Islands when?
>>16417903Britain is a third world country with 1 modern city
>>16417864Who is this gorgeous woman
>>16417903you niggas couldn't even hold an empire over a single planet, what makes you think you stand a chance with that?
>>16417908Yes we can>>16417910No it isn't
>>16417913>No it isn'tDefinitely is. Post-Soviet countries have higher standards of living
>>16417911https://x.com/genna_hammer
>>16417912You can have earth. We have a higher destiny
>>16417913>No it isn'tSome major cities look like 3rd world shitholes and have the crime rates of one.
>>16417246>>16417240actually, it's from a Czech miniseries about low-budget Moon landing mission (where the Czech tram manufacturing company built the spacecraft)The fact Roscosmos is now making trams is unbelievably absurd and hilarious coincidencehttps://vpk.name/en/597921_the-roscosmos-enterprise-will-begin-assembling-an-unmanned-tram-at-the-end-of-the-year.htmlIf anyone is interested, I can figure out where to upload it with english subs.
>>16417918All because liberals banned police and security guards from beating up undesirables if they left their designated districts.
>>16417925Sure sounds like the sort of thing that happens outside a third world country...
>venusian cloud colonies
The sad truth is that space habs with gravity are just way better than anything else you can do in this system
>>16417909Falklands is already compromised, it's fucking OVER
>>16417935Keir starmer just gave a speech guaranteeing their british sovereignty:https://x.com/FalklandsRepUK/status/1843983294922432760
>>16417864>focus on slampig>>16417873>focus on Starship
>>16417933Maybe in the long term but there will be 1 million people on mars long before there are 1 million people in space habitats.
>>16417573WE GAAN
>>16417937https://www.secondary.ac.fk/Have a look, we're done m8
>>16417946So it's pozzed just like everywhere else on this bloody planet. That's fine. It will not stop us.
>>16417939youre fucking retarded.
>>16417951There will be one million on mars by 2050 you piece of shit
>>16417495Magnetic shielding to protect against the close Jovian environment. Also, >>16417502 and, if designed nowadays, powerful laser comms.
>>16417950>>16417909>>16417935Diego Garcia.
>>16417903never
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1844087210859167976
>>16417951nice argument asshole
>>16417961spaceplanebros...
>>16417903I hereby claim this rock for His Majesty the King>>16417915No they don't
>>16417961Shitliner did this
>>16417951>madA self sustaining economy in a gravity well has already been done, we just need to replicate it with sealed skies and mechanical replacements for plants. Space habs on the other hand are the domain of a post scarcity civilization, when livable volume per atom is your guiding constraint. We will get there, but Mars will have 1,000,000 people centuries before space habs
>>16417961why the delay? vulcan? available iss slots? sierra themselves?
>>16417971Here, take a non-AI image for that m8. You can even have sauce if you want, it's a neat short read.https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Ministry-of-Space
>>16417980got to be sierra.
its absolutely INSANE how dreamchaser has managed to come this far. 20 years of development and no soruces of revenue or contracts. Who funds them?
>>16417992It it weren’t sierra, vulcan would not have launched an ornate brick for the second cert flight.
>>16417994Never underestimate the space plane cult
>>16417254https://x.com/JeffGreason/status/1844023967860011343
>>16417971Here's my design for the british martian territory flag
new sloss
>>16417998me when trying to understand the no starship landing legs cult
>>16418007No landing legs makes sense. What doesn't make sense is launching straight after landing while the engines are still hot.
>>16418009what if they're planning on hot swapping the engines?
>>16418011They're not this isn't formula 1
Any Avionics chads here?
>>16417778nah they would nitpick anything that goes wrong (like one engine going out) and then claim that they just got lucky and that it's only inevitable that a catch attempt goes wrong
>>16418016>formula 1 style rocket racingwe need this now
>>16418020electronics are gay and i hate circuits. ill design and build the ships and not the guts please and thank you
>>16417961okay but nooglen will still launch in November right???
>>16418024Agreed.
>>16417254It's always a woman
https://x.com/AshleyKillip/status/1844093500553560203
>>16418024>FAA becomes FIA equivalent and bans any fun mods like extra throoosters, whilst demanding extra safety gear like abort systems
And moon flag once we build a base there.
When is this hurricane supposed to hit it aint even that windy here in Miami
>>16418044two weeks
>>16418042british lunar territory will happen this century
>>16418029a ship without electronics is just a rocket. Its the electronics that make or break the ship. All the tech aboard is that which makes a ship cool and comfy, or cringe.
>>16418003>>16418042>>16418050gay ahhh rocket
>>16418053Benis :DDD
>>16418044people who never experience hurricanes: its an apocalypse, run for the hills!people who live in hurricane areas: i wonder what's on tv.
>>16418062Im just bored sittin around right now man. Youre told a cat 4 hurricane hits Wednesday and now its wednesday and things dont look any different from normal. Nothing ever happens, probably not gonna be any worse than Irma for people not living in Tampa.
>>16418065truepol doomer chuds btfo'd
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yu9hC5MokCANother set of cams. Getting wet
>>16418073looks like a nothingburger
>>16418042We will steal Mars from America like how we stole South Africa from the Dutch. Just you wait.
>>16418035>woman
>>16418088Hell yeah
>>16418044>>16418065it's supposed to hit the coast late tonight, not now
>>16417416Amendment to the Texas constitution to exempt Boca Chica Beach from the usual public-access requirements of Texas beaches.
>>16418073cute little girl stickin her ass up damn
>>16417450>>16417451Does this mean SpaceX officially has plans for mars domes?
So watched the livestream, Tampa looks fine
When the majority of the radiation "problem" is from UV which gets blocked by a bit of paper, why not domes? Especially if you can ISRU glass
>>16418129yourre a fucking idiot who doesnt understand anything. you realise uv makes glass opaque? nice crops there faggot.
>>16417836That doesn't really work though does it.
>>16418126nothing happened to Merida MXall a nothing burger as usual they are making money still
>>16418129>UVIsn't is from cosmic rays? Lead lined glass panels might work but an artificial magnetosphere at the Martian L1 works better
>>16418126erm florida xistas...its just started raining a lot here and now my street looks flooded...its it over for me?
>>16418132The government under cover of night goes and demolishes properties so they can be seized. Yeah guys hop on the interstate in total gridlock, go far away!
>>16418136Check the NOAA site for expected storm surge in your area>https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/152731.shtml?wsurge#contentsIf your fucked post a livestream
>>16418140Also check this one>https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/152731.shtml?inundation#contents
>>16418140im inland but still in the path of the storm
>>16418143how high you are above sea level
>low cat3, cat2what a joke
Fire the doomsayers who preached about this nothingburger storm.
>>16418143
>>16418143yeah the whole state is in the path
https://www.youtube.com/live/QVWXVsctjZMwhere is the surge?
>>16418126it's so nothingburger even the bread isn't there
stormfront general /sfg/
>>16418152whats with the hurricane having a male name? i thought they are supposed to have female names.
>>16418158That was deemed sexist after Biden took office
There was a power outage at HAARP. Storm will intensify shortly once power comes back.
>>16417191>Borane fuelPussy ass nigga. Real men use chlorine trifluoride-molten sodium engine. Later is kept liquid by using sodium-11
>>16418161No one actually believes this right?
>>16418136>xistasEven being ironic, doing this still makes you a faggot
>>16418161HAARP was shutdown this year after a more powerful center came online.bIt's name and location is still conceiled
HURCON 1
>SpaceNews shitposting about deorbiting the ISSIf it was a Cygnus they wouldn't be bitching
>>16418181Goofy
These hurricane streams are so boring. Where is the death and carnage? I want to see drowning people
>>16418192stop complaining and become what you want to see in the world.
>>16418165you underestimate the stupidity that 'people' can stoop to
>>16418051you can design that, ill stick to rockets then 8v&oe i know i have to learn circuits and programming as a mech engineer....
>>16417901Mercury is not totally locked. It doesn't have a dark side.
>>16418200it's not just pure stupidity, most humans have incredibly weak souls/constitutions, frail minds that can't come up with a comprehensive modus operandi to cope this cruel indifferent world by themselves, there used to be a wrangler for this large group of incredibly weakminded people and that was religion. but now that god is dead, everyone is just creating their own religions to justify their existence, only now without any structure and moral objectivity (not that i necessarily agree with the specific moral objectivism of most traditional religions but they were useful for keeping people at least somewhat in line).as a kid i was one of those cringeworthy atheists that wanted to epically dunk on le stupid christians and mudslimes for believing in gods. but now i realize they weren't stupid, they were just using an adequate coping mechanism they desperately needed to not go insane. the world is worse off now that many of these same people believe they can go on without any ordered belief system, because truth is while many of them might not necessarily be stupid, they're just not capable of creating a coherent, sane belief/moral system of their own without guidance.
>>16418164CLF3 is a yeoman's oxidizer. Doesn't even have a 4/4/4 fire diamond.
>>16418208>>>/pol/ this is not rocket science
>>16418222ClF6 may be a better oxidizer, but why not go for the classics if you're going full fucking retard?
>>16418208
>>16418223that's not /pol/, it's philosophy, and an integral part of rocket design.
Chuds in this thread.
>>16418230I never asked for this
>>16418230Back to the sharty you wojak spamming vermin
>>16417544As a taxpayer I want the US Army to put artillery strikes on your current location
>>16418224I put CLF3 on my chicken wings. Rocket scientists these days are complete pussies. We need to go back to labs just randomly mixing hypergolic substances together to see what happens.
>>16418241I see you like your chicken well fucking done. Good on you.
>>16418181>ywn be a NASA Ride Out Member listening to the wind and rain lashing against the thicc sturdy walls of the VAB, wrapped up in a blankie with a cup of cocoa and a storm lamp
>>16417456you generally need to clean up your lawn chairs after a Cat 2
>>16417538>>16417573EET HOOPEN
https://x.com/SheriffGarza/status/1844136923775771043
>>16417627but what if we make a new world with no blacks?
>>16417645That wouldn't stop anyone. I've seen how assholes drive on the interstate.
>>16418254All just waiting for that final loisense, I'm going to bust a nut all over the FAA and there's nothing they can do about it
What's with all the fake Io images on Google? Even Wikipedia uses the gross false colour images which they're usually really good about.
>>16417650this sounds extremely gay
Does the Ride Out Crew have a patch? Sounds pretty ballin
Tornado warning for Cape Canaveral area about to expire. Conditions remain favorable for tornadoes due to NE quadrant interaction with the shoreline boundary as the outer bands rotate over the water and then back over land.
>>16417686>it's over for florida... it will be a wasteland after tomorrowwe will rebuild
>>16418249/cozy/
>>16418181Is that the rideout trailer?
https://x.com/AdamF_Astro/status/1843930583661195589
>>16418279Sol is getting angry at our crab bucket antics
>>16417126looks like Pockocmoc built it, checks out
>>16417983...meanwhile, back in reality...
>>16418230Shut the fuck up dude
>>16418274Oops moon missions just slid to 2050.
>>16417840they have to deal with Russians though
>>16417881
wind is pickin up!
>>16417994https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1844087210859167976>Dreamchaser-1 is now NET May 2025. I'm not sure I would feel particularly confident in that date either, but there you go.I guess they can do a few more years
>>16417961Honestly fucking embarrassing at this point. Q1 would MAYBE be forgivable. But May of next year???! The rumors / insider leaks about Sierra Space being an incompetent, toxic, and outright retarded place to work are obviously true
>>16417983Even Romania has a better space program than the UK.
>>16418252GEBEURTENIS
>>16418320Name a more toxic combination in space flight than old space and spaceplane fags.
reporting back in, the max this storm hits is 20 mph. aint SHIT happening another nothingburger
>Both the Kuiper Belt and the Oort Cloud are named after Dutch astronomersAccept it, the entire solar system is Dutch. We gaan.
>>16418346Hydromeme sustainer + SRB advocates
>>16418350I take night drives just to increase the carbon footprint of the planet so your stupid country goes under water faster
>>16418346SLS and not being canceled
>>16418353>>16418355heh
>>16418353literally space shuttle.
I remember when we were talking about the San Pedro composite BFR site. Ahhh the time has flown by.
>>16418366Only seventy short years ago I was running summer camp at Peenemünde. We had volunteers assembling model rockets. Time flies
>>16418230Do you have a single fact to back that up
>>16418261FAA will delay it citing hurricane delays.
https://x.com/EricSnitilWx/status/1844064077427142690>HERE WE GO! A "Severe" G4 geomagnetic storm is in the forecast Thursday night. This is quite the rare event and has at least a shot at reaching G5 levels. These events are like snowflakes, no two are the same. With that in mind, the below map is a loose representation of what G4 storms are capable of from a viewing perspective.Here we maybe go again
>>16417868Not really accurate anymore but it was funny back then
>>16418384Fake and gay
>>16418359SLS is worse than Shuttle because it kept a bunch of old Shuttle parts for bad reasons and then had to reengineer/expend them all anyways.
>>16418389Both are pretty much equally terrible.But Shuttle at least had the decency to launch ‘often’. SLS isn’t even TRYING to launch twice or more a year
>>16418384Could even dip into G5, niiiceee
>>16418346elon musk and twitter outrage farms
Designated shitting pods
>>16418395It’s definitely a shitty and gay combo, but not worse.Pic made me audibly chuckle nonetheless
>>16418395!!
>>16418395The guy seems obsessed with jews and nazi accts. The horse shoe theory about far left and far right seems to align well together.
>>16417538>>16417729his face is blurred because it was ruined in an explosion
>>16417903>implying they wouldn't throw it all away to destroy Germany again
>>16418181Reminder that brilliant pebbles can destroy hurricanes.
https://x.com/accuweather/status/1844174075234758771>BREAKING NEWS: Hurricane Milton made landfall near Siesta Key in Sarasota County, Florida, as a Category 3 hurricane.So, the most powerful storm ever. Huh
get ready for another loooong /sfg/, not only was the catalog shoah'd again, but jannnie is now actively deleting most newly posted threads, as a result the new thread creating rate is only about 1 per hour over the past 6 hours. if that holds up it will be ages before /sfg/ reaches page 10
>>16418424>that death black area right off the shore of cape canaveral
>>16418424>Category 3it doesn't even have an intact eyewall, its barely even a tropical storm
https://x.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/1844181088836395085>Speaking at an Oct. 9 meeting of the National Academies’ Committee on Biological and Physical Sciences in Space, Bill Gerstenmaier, SpaceX vice president for build and flight reliability, expressed optimism that the booster could make it back for a catch by the launch tower. “We landed with half a centimeter accuracy in the ocean” on the previous flight, he said, “so we think we have a reasonable chance to go back to the tower.”>half a centimeter accuracyflawless catchbros we're so back
>>16418424fell apart, but that energy didn't disappear, it was just turned into giant tornadoes.
>>16418429Modern control systems engineering is just pure sex
https://spacenews.com/debate-over-space-guard-rekindles-amid-growing-reliance-on-satellites-for-disaster-relief/i've been against space national guard for the most part but there might be some wiggle room here.
>>16418436>National Guard forces are activated when local resources are overwhelmed by natural disasters.>National Guard units are uniquely positioned to provide these services during domestic crises, thanks to the authorities granted under Title 32, which active-duty military do not have>During Hurricane Helene’s aftermath, the Federal Emergency Management Agency shipped 180 Starlink kits to North Carolina, reinforcing calls for better integration of satellite technology into disaster relief efforts. >Currently, about 700 members of the Air National Guard support space operations, including satellite communications. However, whether there is enough political will to create a separate Space National Guard remains uncertain. The Biden administration has consistently argued that integrating these units into the Space Force would be simpler and more cost-effective. maybe we dont need a space national guard, but some kind of space force attachment to air national guard for dealing with spaceflight issues
>>16418430fug
>>16418436They dont already have dedicated satellite nerds for the national guard? What is this the 20th century??
>>16418436National Guard use water. Therefore there should be a Plumbing National Guard.
>>16418441tubes are the province of army engineers
>>16418442Flagrant overstep, those tubes contain water which makes them the domain of the Navy.
>>16418443Networks of tubes should, of course, fall under the FCC's jurisdiction
little screen grab from my spitter for yall folx. since I know you post me from time to time
>>16418449shelby_pointing_gun.jpg
>>16418449I actually don't believe they have a 0.5cm CEP or anything close. It's legitimately not possible, think about it for more than two seconds.
>>16418449You need to be thrown to a tornado.
>>16418447What does one do on the internet? They surf. It's the Navy's domain.
https://x.com/spacenews_inc/status/1844181088836395085>“Bill Gerstenmaier, SpaceX vice president, expressed optimism that the booster could make it back for a catch by the launch tower. ‘We landed with half a centimeter accuracy in the ocean’ on the previous flight, he said, ‘so we think we have a reasonable chance to go back to the tower.’”Wtf since when his Bill been making public statements?
>>16418451COPE
>>16418384https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBh5-uB77ns
>>16418451>its not possible because… BECAUSE I SAY IT IS OKAY?!they said the same thing about landing rockets
>>16418458>>16418462Falcon 9 probably has something close to 2-500cm CEP. Try using your brain.
>>16418463yeah but starship has magic powers
>>16418455Son of a bitch, you're right.
>>16418463falcon 9 has to hoverslam to get to the ground, it could probably be more accurate if it wanted to but there's no point when you're trying to spread out the wear on the barge deck rather than concentrating it on specific points
>>16418468>when you're trying to spread out the wear on the barge deck rather than concentrating it on specific pointsWhat the fuck are you even talking about?
>>16418469Are you retarded or just pretending to be?
>>16418449>half a centimeter accuracywtf, then how come Falcon 9 first stages always land way off center?
>>16418470SpaceX isn't shifting Falcon booster landing points to reduce deck wear on the barges.
>>16418471they've been landing off center on purpose to spread out the wear and tear on the pad
how would you measure accuracy to half a centimeter?gps is maybe accurate to 15 metersif you had an RTK system or multiples on nearby boats that would be a lot more accurate to maybe 1cm but can you actually measure your boat position accurately?
>>16418474maybe they use starlink as a gps
>>16418469>>16418470>>16418471>>16418472>>16418472They infrequently miss the center, the X logo isn't actually in the middle of the deck you dumbasses.And the booster often shifts in heavy seas even with the roomba attached by the time it sails into port to be seen.
>>16418456NASA is really looking forward for ways to delay, sabotage or otherwise interfere with it
>>16418474not that crazy, you're usually limited by the receiver on the ground rather than the satellites - big rigs being driven remotely on mining sites get down to centimeter accuracy
>tfw MIR hit the ocean literally thousands of miles away from the Taco Bell target zone
>>16418478This looks like it's a few meters off center.
>>16418483It's as near the middle of the available space between the hatches on either side as a falcon could reasonably be. Certainly much closer than the painted bullseye that the booster wouldn't and couldn't see even if they wanted to land there.Not within half centimetre, but definitely within half a metre.
>>16418484Oh, so the estimate is only off by two full orders of magnitude.
>>16418474>gps is maybe accurate to 15 metersBased 1990s posterDon't bother coming to the 21st century, it sucks
In space, 2 orders of magnitude is pretty much spot on
>>16418485I don't think for a second that article is factual and I'm waiting for a correction at any time.However consider that the barge moves within whatever range its thrusters and GPS are rated to keep it at. And that they're not aiming for that tight of an error to begin with. And that falcon can't hover.
>>16418487Actually, no.
>>16418489Akshually, yes.
>>16418489Not exactly but it's true within an order of magnitude or so.
>>16418484OK smartypants. poindexter ass.
Theres a 50% chance that they land the booster
>>16418463Sweet pea, that's a different rocket entirely.
>>16418487I'm going to get within two orders of magnitude of your mother
>>16418495I agree, either they do or they don't. 50/50.
I get into arguments on here specifically and then explode on my children when I get in a really angry mood
>>16418500post your wife beater
>>16418500It builds character, keep at it.
>>16418500The other day I had to explain to my wife what the FAA is to clarify that I was mad generally but not at her
>>16418003lol
>>16418500Learn anger management bro, there's nothing you can change about the situation
>>16418474https://x.com/LunarCaveman/status/1636025191502340097I don't feel like watching the video referenced here but they're using the LZ buoys, reportedly. Pretty sure that's where the landing footage came from last time.Unknown mix of sensors, but if you have four platforms in that kind of proximity, half-centimeter position detection isn't crazy.
>>16418474you use LIDAR systems to land because it actively scans the surface and allows for minute adjustments based on that inputit's impossible to use GPS to do that alone
>>16418436Space National Guard: when there aren't enough people practicing non-violence on earth, so you have to activate civilians to do it
>>16418513>Unknown mix of sensorsit's LIDAR my dudethat's the most important one, not a doubt in my minddo I have a source, nobut it's true
>>16418451Anything is possible when you don't have to suicide burn.Elon once said something about Spacex being able to make the rockets do ballet if they wanted to, and I believe him. Their control software is nuts.
>>16418322yeah sure maybe but how many of these have they succeeded in building? I bet not even a hundredth as many
>>16418520It looks like a public school fucked a county jail.
>>16418384>yfw a solar flare destroys everything you built
>>16418053Why do zoomers say "ahh" so much
>>16418522Should we destroy the sun?
>>16418523ebonics ahh slang
>>16418516>it's impossible to use GPS to do that aloneI can't comment on this anonymously or otherwise. I will say you'd be surprised.
>>16418523it means ass you decrepit shit for brains worthless lecherous maggot
>>16418516i have Q clearance and yes you can
i think the stormchasers died. all my streams dead
>>16418532>>16418527that's bullshit but I believe itthe high end GPS you're referring to is for the geodesic coordination between datumsthe actual fine detail adjustments on approach is LIDAR or some other related system
>>16418524It's the only sensible thing to do, get it before it gets us.
>>16418384Should I believe this or no?
>>16418537>Hasn't already retreated to his deep-buried G5 survival bunkerngmi
>>16418537It's worth keeping in mind. Sky will we clear for a lot of the lower 48 and sticking your head out a window when twitter starts lighting up isn't a huge investment.
Welp this hurricane was a major let down
>>16417568>>16417634If there's a ton of planets outside of galaxies or star systems that we just can't detect yet could that be what causes galaxies to behave "weirdly"?Isn't this literally just dark matter but in the most mundane way possible?
>>16418436That sentence makes no senseYou don't need a new branch of the military to accomplish what's going to come standard on people's phones, nor do you need that to hand out receivers until then
>>16418541goodTampa lucked out big time that the storm ate shit right off shore and tracked the few miles south they needed to avoid catastrophestill that tornado cluster was unexpected20 great plains tier twisters turning up all at once in south Florida might be unprecedented, just goes to show the weird power of that outer band that drew up from the Yucatan
https://www.wsj.com/business/telecom/spacex-wields-dominance-in-rocket-launches-to-boost-starlink-fde71f17?st=mrLu7h&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalinkSpaceX is refusing to launch sats for other companies unless those companies forfeit some spectrum rights. lmao.>at least according to WSJtoo lazy to post an archive link
>>16418549and here comes the monopoly trial
>>16418540The Great Lakes better be clear tomorrow night or I'm going to destroy the local atmosphere with every can of hairspray I can get my hands on.
>>16418544Holy shit that could account for it, yeah. If extragalactic space is lousy with rogue planets then that's a lot of literal 'dark matter'.
>>16418531
>>16418544>>16418555No that's the Massive Compact Halo Object theory and it doesn't work because they'd be emitting infrared from absorbed galactic light. Same way dust clouds are detectable in other star systems.
>>16418555no nigger. thats not how dark matter models work. planets also make up absolutely no part of the mass that dark matter would be of. its just not possible. if this couldve been thought of before then it wouldve been, you vastly overestimate the amount of mass in planetary bodies.
>>16418547Biden called it off at the last minute
>>16418181Damn I hope I can go attend Hurcon next year.
>>16418559that was nice of him
>>16418559shut the fuck up. nobody controls the weather to the degree they can make hurricanes. thats not how fucking cloud seeding works. do you also believe in chem trails you dumb nigger?
>>16418559If true then it's because he wants Trump to win
>>16418564They done make the hurricane, but they have the power to intensify or detensify it
>>16418567That is equally insane. You are a crazy person
>>16418564haven't you watched the Cloudbursting documentary? It's legit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
>>16418449There's no fucking way.
>>16418558What if there's like a lot of them that we don't know about?
>>16418558>planets also make up absolutely no part of the mass that dark matter would be ofThen what do you think does?
>>16418573i dont know. nobody does. but it certainly isnt fucking dinky little planets
>>16418575Ok but what if it is?
>>16418577the absolute best chance i can give your hypothesis of being true is a 50/50. its either true, or it isnt.
>>16418553https://graphical.weather.gov/sectors/conus.phpThat's was a map of the cloud cover prediction for tomorrow night at 11PM. It's a bit shitty over Superior and the Northern Peninsula, but everything else looks reasonable. The front moving through will cover the northern half of Minnesota by 2AM but it doesn't intrude on too much that wasn't covered before.
Is there even a catch abort option?
>>16418575What about big chunky planets?
>>16418580maybe we need patriot batteries on standby
>>16418580You just posted it.
>>16418449If this was true, dont you think Elon would have been bragging about it?
>>16418578I'll take those odds!
>>16418580Thats going right into a crowd of mexicans
>>16418579>It's a bit shitty over Superior and the Northern PeninsulaI'm a yooper
>>16418585he did, he said it was on target while ship was kilometres off
>>16418564They cloud seeded that storm that was ahead of the hurricane to weaken in
>>16418449Nigga
>>16418582This is such a dumb comparison. They're entirely different rockets and F9 can't even hover.
>>16418597That's actually an even better sign for Superheavy than what the pic shows.
Notice: The OFFICIAL /sfg/ meetup will be 4 AM Sunday at Denny's on South Padre.
>>16418549Sounds pretty far fetched
>>16418600i will not be attending your serial killer meetup.
>>16418592"on target" could mean F9 levels of accuracy, which is not enough for a catch.
>>16418604given they immediately were discussing a catch within hours of the flight ending I'd say they were happy enough with the accuracy
>>16418600Question: how do you actually get into SPI to the beach on launch day? do you just leave your car at your hotel/airbnb and walk all that way? the parking lot doesnt look nearly big enough. also is there even enough lodging on the island?
>>16418608I'd just pitch my tent in an adjacent strand of trees overnight.
>>16418610trees?
>>16418608No idea, never been. There's several parking lots near isla blanca but I'm worried they'll fill up early. Park opens at 3:00. Otherwise, yeah, i guess you walk. There's a lot of hotels/airbnbs on SPI, it's a popular beach area.
>>16418611What goes on here? I feel like I could raft out to one with a backpack and chill for a day or two without anyone noticing. That'd be a cool way to watch a launch.
>>16418621you will be arrested. just go to the mexico side if you want the best view. dont listen to everyone who says it's dangerous, it's not
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1844205686223405431Gerstenmeier actually said centimeter
>>16418621Mosquitos of a size and fury the likes of which, frankly, have never been seen before.
>>16418624He must have been mistaken
>>16418621Salt marsh islands surrounded by muddy salt flats.
>>16418600I'm sad that I didn't meet any /sfg/ anons two weeks ago.
>>16418624
>>16418633https://vimeo.com/event/4538319>1:51:20kind of hard to listen to what they are say, I just heard mumbling personally
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1844154499595952332
>>16418549WSJ is trash, OneWeb already refuted the article.
>>16418549https://archive.is/hYlIL>The Elon Musk-led company asked companies such as Kepler Communications and OneWeb to share their so-called spectrum rights with its Starlink broadband-internet business before agreeing to launch their equipment into orbit, according to people familiar with the matter. >A SpaceX spokesman said the company can’t force another satellite operator to reach a spectrum-coordination agreement. He said the company also can’t force inequitable terms because the agreements in question have to be ratified by governments, ensuring that they are fair.according to people familiar with the matter, lol
>>16418641link?
>>16418642i read the article and the summary is that it may or may not be antitrust. it would be up to a judge to determine that. no company is talking about it publicly either.
>>16418646I wouldn't even say it "may or may not", its just an assertion by anonymous sources saying that basically because SpaceX is asking for spectrum share agreements (separately) and also launching the satellites, there is some implicit threat or somethingWSJ is known to print all kinds of bullshit specifically going after Musk and his companiesand oh yeah the oneweb spokeperson comment was actually in the article itself>A spokeswoman for OneWeb, now part of French satellite operator Eutelsat, said reaching a coordination agreement was good for both sides. She denied that OneWeb made concessions in reaching the spectrum deal and said that it “bore no relation to our launch agreement.”
>>16418651A few hours ago I saw a few articles that claim Musk or his company is charging people 400 dollars to use the Starlink units he sent out to western North Carolina.But that's not what I hear from people using those systems on the ground for relief efforts. Much the opposite.
>>16418632Keep in touch on the Discord for future meetups
>>16418623>you will be arrestedDoubtful>>16418627>Mosquitos of a size and fury the likes of which, frankly, have never been seen before.By you, perhaps>>16418630I could probably wade out there then, no raft required.
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1844164053452939570>A closer look at Starship 30's FTS charge A during installation today. >10/9/24that steel is pretty thick
>>16418662the mexican cartel will detach your head from your body
>nsf are leaning towards the catch attempt workingits promising since they're usually pessimistic
Holy shit it's headed straight for KSChttps://www.ventusky.com/?p=26.1;-79.4;5&l=rain-3h
>>16418677>europa clipper bros...
>>16418677who gives a fuck this storm aint shit. i just talked to a guy in tampa he didnt even lose power, and i didnt even get anything in miami at all, evident by the massive gap in this fucked hurricane to the south. nothing ever happens.
>>16418678The HIF at LC-39A is rated to withstand a strong cat 4 storm, and this wasn't that before it made landfall. Things will be fine
tomorrow
>>16418621Mexico is your pal
>>16418668>sticker on helmet>zoom in>le 4chan manjuan auvus
>>16418687Seeing where the Rio Grande empties into the sea would be pretty awesome. Maybe I'll do that.
>>16418677Should roll FH out and just launch it during this as a flex
https://x.com/lrocket/status/1844141784550736139
>>16418701
>>16418703
>>16418701If they need to assemble for testing it means the powerhead has already been proven, so what more do they need? A test of the cooling system?
>>16418704
>>16418704what is that thing for a model rocket?
>>16418707
>>16418710That logo looks like someone dabbing in orbit
>>16418708for a kick stagehttps://www.impulsespace.com/helios
>>16418703>"just add a kickstage to F9 for high energy orbits"Tory is drinking the forbidden fruit punch right noe.
https://x.com/BasedBeffJezos/status/1844250538671829061
>>16418642>noooo you can't just negotiate a contract from a position of relative strength over your competitorsThey also launched some of the AST bluebird satellites who will compete with them for direct to cell. Changes to spectrum allocation rights require regulator approval.>>16418646The article's premise is flawed. There is no anti trust case here and nothing illegal or even unethical occurred.
>>16418701>380That number was already being tossed around for Raptor 3
>climate change isnt re-
>>16418720>look up "RP-1" on the internet>only that single pic shows uplel, it's been the same for the last decade or so, nobody uploads photos of their precious rp-1
4 months is a long trip but comparable to the long voyages during the age of sail
>>16418740God I wish I was in that room
>>16418743Eww gross pervert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz1m_GjLTPU>When did NASA start looking at Artemis III alternatives...and why?
>>16418751how is that gross?
>>16418751Based hater of coomers
>>16418759Get out or I'm pulling the emergency brake
>>16418762Get mad at the artist, not me
>>16418743Er, with or instead of the loli? With is perv.But it looks like a comfy room.
https://x.com/sbarky38/status/1798331370827288759
>>16418765I mean, both? I want to be in the room as it is
>>16418766total weeb death
>>16417923That sounds kinda fun, actually. Do upload, if you would.
>>16418771also
>>16418770That's what I thought
>>16417254If I catch this dude in the streets, I'm beating him to death with a hammer.
>fly to mars>takes six months>land>cant walk because you lost so much muscle mass>by the time you recover a year later you're bouncing and falling all over the place because low gravitysketch af
>>16418776Weird, I just saw this got adapted, and then that only episode 1 is any good
>>16418783good thing we've got literally decades of research in microgravity on how to retain muscle mass through exercise then
>>16418786episode 1 is good, the rest are garbage (they changed animating studio after episode 1)
>>16418781Can the US government take this as an actionable threat?
>>16418790that tranny represents the US government?
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1844260912351543386
>>16418816https://www.wsj.com/opinion/starlink-elon-musk-hurricane-helene-fcc-jessica-rosenworcel-charlie-ergen-084dba67https://archive.is/ZnFWV
>>16418816so that's how dish is still alive. they've been bribing democrats into giving them funding.
>>16418580Why did you render this at 32 samplesTurn on OptiX and set it to 256 minimum
>>16418580an underground silo bunker where boosters who miss their tower catch go to die
>>16418817Billions of dollars have already been spent but with little to show for it. Amazing that we were able to run power and telephone lines to nearly anywhere other than the most remote areas of Alaska and yet this was treated like some impossible undertaking by telecoms while congress played dumb went along with it. Supposedly now there's better progress being made with fiber but just like oldspace its probably too little too late.
>>16418677
>>16418765"I wish to be the little girl" - Chris-chan
WATER TOWERS CAN FLYYES
Why is Starship not going to orbit once again?
>>16418740Hell of a lot easier than a submarine deployment, guarantee you that
>>16418888That was moot
>>16418908Are you a submariner?
>>16418907SpaceX is prioritizing getting reuse workinggoing to orbit does not help with this
>>16418907Because it has no payload to deploy. Starlink is viable on F9 alone. Starship is no longer needed
>>16418908At least you have windows in space and you can look out into the endless maddening void and hear the songs it sings
>>16418907They don't have a deorbit burn as part of the itinerary. I guess they decided the heat-shield testing was more important and wanted to make sure nothing could go wrong there.
>>16418912Uhhh>>16418916Windows, 0G to float around in, starlink to message family and friends in almost real time, and not having 7 months of no sunlight at all. Plus you know where you're actually going lol
>>16418923But you can do more than one thing at once. Orbit insertion first, deorbit burn later and reentry with splashdown at the end.
>>16418916This makes me not want windows on starship
>>16418474They made it up lol
How does the Booster know where it is?
>>16418474Starship probably uses more than gps 1.0 for landing anon
>>16418926that makes it more complicated and might make it take longer to finish the modifications before next flightdoing everything at once is what BO does
>>16418931It knows where it isn't
>>16418474https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_GPS
>>16417678The Florida Situation is Crazy
16h until robotaxi event with optimus
>>16418949Gonna be as interesting and consequential as the Tesla semi/roadster reveal in 2017. Actually less. The Semi didn't rely on uncertain technological breakthroughs to be viable.
>>16418500They don't deserve that, you get mad at someone on the internet and then start shouting at your kids, you know that's retarded and they hate it
>>16418956no breakthroughs needed
>>16418500I win every argument I get involved with here so I am calm and collected always
>>16418949i hope grimes comes out with a neurolink chiuhuahua and pasties and then elon (dogefather) is holding baby X and then flamefrower xDDD
>>16418962you need to keep up, they have not been involved for yearsX is is like 5 years old right now
>>16418474GPS has centimeter precision. What it lacks is centimeter accuracy. Two receivers next to each other might not be correct on position, but they should be correct about the distance between them. So you put a receiver on your "target", and compare with its readings.There's other ways to augment it, but just GPS alone should work if you can get a stream of what your target's position is.
>>16418956Elon where the fuck is my SpaceX Roadster???
>>16418965Grimes and Elon still hatefuck every 6-8 months. You need to pay better attention kid
>>16418635deafbro...
>>16418970
>>16418972you have a bunch of monkies talking over eachother and shit tier audio5s of listening to this makes me want to kms
>>16418969>Elon where the fuck is my SpaceX Roadster???on its way to Mars orbit and back
>>164189692 weeks
>>16418978>>16418980>>16418981Its European & Aussie hour in spaceflight!
https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4922998-democrats-are-lost-in-space-can-republicans-do-better/>Democrats are lost in space. Can Republicans do better?>Vice President Harris was notably unenthusiastic about taking charge of the space policy portfolio. There is no evidence she will change if elected president. The best that can be said about Democrats’ approach to space is that they are not overtly hostile to innovative policy. But this is hardly the forward-looking attitude we need to achieve our nation’s vital space interests.We're fucked. Foust burning the midnight oil
>>16418994>they are not overtly hostileI beg to differ
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1844189329889071144
>>16418997
>>16418998
>>16418999half a metre
>>16419001Is this good or bad
>>16419002I don't know but seems like it should work even with half a metre offset, the booster can hover anyway
>>16419003Thin margins, as long they mostly manage it without detonating everything then the next ones will be ok as they analyse and refine the software
>>16418931It knows where all the other boosters are, then uses process of elimination.
>>16418997Just realised it not only has to line up in linear directions, but also rotation. They can get the booster right in between the arms, but the lifting points also have to line up.
>>16418967It kinda already is augmented for their purposes since the errors contributing to their fixes should become similar the closer they get.
>>16418949https://x.com/andst7/status/1844344141209354496
>>16419013there's a roughly 25-30 degree range of rotation where a catch is possible, so that's not too much of a concern as roll control systems are well understood
https://x.com/otherside_X42/status/1843781755444363759
>>16419040Is this a bad thing?Looks good to me, all the way around the nose like that.Especially with the sleeker forward flaps, its gonna get hot at the tip, even with a tank of cryo right there.I'm sure their CFD modeling showed a need, they can remove what doesn't get hot.
>>16419052
>>16419055Its unlikely to keep the "eyes", they have months until that one launches.
>>16419055
>>16417713t. least racist rocket enjoyer (based, btw)
A bit more was added overnight
>>16419052heat tiles are basically magic. The front side facing airflow can be heated to thousands of degrees but the rear side wouldn't even burn your skin if you touched it
>>16417864fat
>>16417916wtf, are we sure that's a woman?
>>16419065Probability of XY currently stands at 80%
>>16419065seeing that I would say 1% probability of being a woman
>>16419065You should stop watching hentai
>>16419065okay 0.001%manface, manhands, man shoulders, avoiding clear pictures
>>16418549Wow, fake AND gay?!
>>16418783>bouncing and falling all over the place because low gravityThere's no reason to expect this
https://x.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1844356033650573772>A little more of the mural on the parking garage has been revealed at Starbase.
>>16418561Don't go. It's mostly people dressed up as atmospheric phenomena having gay sex in hotel rooms.
>>16418848I'm in a rural place and finally got fiber, but the population of my small town tripled in the last five years so I think it would've happened anyway.
>>16419076says fellow convention-goervoice of experience
>>16418907Orbit is easy. They need to test reentry and landing.
>>16418925>Plus you know where you're actually going lolFrightening. Couldn't be me. Good luck down there
>>16419072You forgot >autistic interestThe most damning
>>16419033Nobody talked about this.Optimus humanoid robots will be on the FIRST Mars landing, making the first "footprints".Dont you guys know that?Te be announced today.
>>16419075This looks so fucking shit man. They vectorized a jpeg. This is so bad
>>16419084the timelines certainly line up, but Optimus might be too unreliable at that point still for completely autonomous operation and I'm not sure space rating it would be a big priority for Tesla before they are actually autonomous
>>16419086the Starships seem to be V1 as well lol
>>16419086Agreed, its some Dall-E 3 generated image from Bing, with the prompt "Martian city with Starship, in watercolor, landscape mural"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obzK1p4m68U&list=RDobzK1p4m68UMars national anthem if Kamala wins
>>16419091Hopefully they would have used Grokto make Elon feel better
>>16419091used the exact prompt
>>16419065Some women are just ugly.
>>16419091>AIToo coherent. An artist made it.>watercolorNot even. Those are vectorization artifacts. They may as well have interpolated pixels up there
>>16419061SpaceX is built different. I can understand working through the night to get your record breaking rocket ready on time, but not to paint a stupid mural on a parking garage.
>>16419065>those broad ass shouldersLmfao. That's 100% a man.
>>16419003if the arms are meant to close on it then maybe they can push it the final few cm
>>16419093https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7E&list=RDobzK1p4m68Uwhat kind of red mars do you want
>>16419096looks the same!
>>16419099It's probably not SpaceX that really did it, they just specified an image and the contractor made it happen.Of course they are paying extra to make the shit happen as fast as possible but that is everything at starbase.
License status?
>>16419112two weeks
>>16419086>they vectorized a jpegok? who gives a shit
>>16419115bro look at this >>16417451
>>16419118So?
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/1844215111801876747?t=sC0VD4rlrdtDeoFSNohuCw&s=19https://vimeo.com/event/4538319Anyone got the exact time stamp?
>>16419065
>>16419122its somewhere around that >>16418635
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1844364721308443083
>>16419122blindbro...
>>16419127https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1844365566464893069
>>16419127>moonbase alpha
>>16419131>>16419132yeah its not a new name, some renderings of it were shown on a document with like 15 other moon proposals for NASA a few months agoV2 Starship using V3 raptors is new, or at least something I've missed as being confirmed
>>16418970Would you hate fuck this?
>>16419133
>>16419133aren't the "V2" ships we've seen still the same length as the current ships? are they real v2s or v1.5s
>>16419107This mural is required to be finished by Saturday, and it will be.
>>16419133>moonbase alphaChat, is this real?
>>16419141they are not the same length I'm pretty sure, but they aren't much taller than V1 ships
>>16419089The plan is still to send a couple unmanned ships ahead of the manned ones. Might as well have a few optimi on board
>>16419127I want to believe...
>>16419141in fact you can see the V1, V2 and V3 ships on that pic in the middleV2 is not much taller
>>16419132aeiou
>>16419132it's almost like the game was named after the real plan
>>16419123cro-magnon hands
>>16419147Yes, even if the robots fail over time, its an opportunity that will NOT be missed. They can lower one, test it to failure, then lower another with new software. Then, another. Bring 20, why not?Radiation hardening will not be required, because the dense 3nm (or smaller by launch date) process node chips will be kept deep within the heart of a rad-shielded Starship core, and wireless navigate with high bandwidth, unlimited spectrum channels (fuck the FCC) over a radio mast tower on top of the Ship, commanding them with a much more powerful AI server than you though possible. They will be the smartest robots ever, and on fucking MARS.Power source / temperature will be limiting, not brains.CyberTruck Martian Edition will be there too, named KITT from Knight Rider. Because Elon is an early 80s kid.
>>16419127250 thousand tons sounds like a lot but thats on the order of a large supertanker or the very biggest cruise ships. I don’t see ~10 supertankers worth of mass supporting 1 million people.
>>16419171its not going to be just food and water, the colony will have to become more and more self-sufficient as time goes onwater will be one of the first things that needs to be solved, both for human consumption but also rocket propellant
>>16419176water is a solved rpoblem etard. now do you think people exist in africa?
>>16419176I like the 1 million figure. It’s a nice round number and it’s good to aim high. That said I would be very pleasantly surprised if there are 10k people on mars by 2050.
>>16419178>rpoblem etard
>>16419171You'll make more and more complex stuff on site as time passes. Refining and casting the big dumb mass means you're shipping like 10x the machines by mass, then when you're making motors, screws, and bearings it's like 100x until you're just shipping chips and only 0.1% of your industry by mass originates from Earth. Have faith in Elon "order of magnitude" Musk
>>16419178what
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1844379785293947341restack soon I guess, both vehicles have FTS installed
>>16419188HAPPENING
https://x.com/SpaceForceDoD/status/1844373604172955746https://www.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3932137/x-37b-begins-novel-space-maneuver/
>>16419178a third of africa is a rainforest
>>16419193Sweet
>>16419188>>16419192They would have the ARM the ship FTS before stacking, not just install it. Because it too tall to reach later with a man lift.So if they stack it with FTS armed, that means license granted?Can't have a live FTS without a license...
>>16419188Every day we get a little closer, bros
>>16419196nobody lives in the rainforest and good luck drinking anyof the water..
>>16419201what
>>16419199>Can't have a live FTS without a licensegot a source on that?
>>16419205do you have a source its NOT true?I made it up. Because safety
>>16419205yes I work for the FAA
>>16419208The FAA doesn't regulate explosivesthe ATF doesThe FAA simply requires rockets to have FTS
>>16419211got a source on that?
>>16419212here you go14 CFR Appendix-D-to-Part-417(a)https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-III/subchapter-C/part-417/appendix-Appendix%20D%20to%20Part%20417Flight termination system safing and arming nowhere does it say when they should install FTS or when it should be activated or if a license is required to do so
So what do we expect from this event that pertains to space? Tesla bots for Mars?
>>16419213>Title 14 / Chapter III / Subchapter C / Part 417 / Appendix D to Part 417 You just skimmed through the entirety of the CFR?
https://x.com/BingoBoca/status/1844385933925417455
>>16419217Commerical Space flight licensing is all in Chapter III of Title 14wasn't hard to find
>>1641921236 C.F.R. §7.96(b)(3)
>>16419220Now find the part about the ATF, and their rules regarding blowing up a Starship that is returning to the launch site on land.What part is that regulated by?
>>16419224>Asking to be spoonfedfuck off back to xitter newfag
Last stacking before launch is underway.
>>16419230A full set of the CFR consists of approximately 200 volumes. The approximately 200 CFR volumes are revised at least once a year on a quarterly basis as follows: Titles 1 -- 16 as of January 1. Titles 17 -- 27 as of April 1.In 1960, the CFR contained 22,877 pages. Since 1975 until the end of 2019, its total page count had grown from 71,224 to 185,984, including the index—a 161 percent increase. The number of CFR bound volumes stands at 242 for the past four years, compared with 133 in 1975.By 2016, there were 104.6 million words of federal regulation on the books, about 195 percent growth over 1970, with a corresponding increase in reading time of almost two years.
>>16419216They will unveil robotaxi (a completely autonomous vehicle) and also another brand new car ... please please Roadster
>>16419232theres a stacking in my pants right now
>>16419237Dude, nobody care about cars.We want the announcement of Optimus Army on Mars, in 2 years time.
>>16419239mmmmh ive heard Elon talk about 100 people to Mars in one go... which personally felt no feasible ... but ... 100 robots , like the ones unveiled a year ago but 1000 times more advanced and autonomous ... that would be quite a sigh
>>16419239You will need cars on both Moon and Mars.
>>16419232this baby doesn't need no wet dress rehearsalgonna send it
>>16419238Can i rub my Tower Arms against your bare metal? idk if you catch my drift
>>16419237>please please RoadsterWhy do you care poor fag
>>16419232FUCK THE FAA
>>16419249even tho im poor i still enjoy technology. Can i go to Mars ? no, Can even be a pesky miserable astronaut riding to space with a poor useless, smelly , shitty, soyuz ? No , but still enjoy it
>>16419232>last stacking>implying
FAA needs to be deleted or even weekly flights are going to be impossible
>>16419244>1000_slaves_on_starship.jpg
>>16419246I guess you missed the multiple WDRs they already did.
>>16419252Join the military, faggot.You can be on Starliner someday
>>16419239>We want the announcement of Optimus Army on Mars, in 2 years time.Starship V3 will be able to transport 10,000 Optimus Army at a time for Mars at once. They can function as laborers and defense
daily reminder that Musk so got pissed off at FAA shittery that he started campaigning for a presidential candidate to delete them with a new department named after a meme
>>16419255There are bound to be complaints about shaking and sonic booms and I'm not sure what spacex plans for that
>>16419104https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP8nkbMIuPE&list=RDobzK1p4m68U&index=12
>>16419262>deal with it or move
>>16419259im a useles sysadmin doing mindnumbing jobs that nobody cares. Maybe one day Mars needs a good reliable B2B SaaS manager, if so, give me a call
>>16419265its possible to retrain and change careersbut, if the humanoid bot thing actually happens then sysadmin stuff might be transferrable to managing some aspects of the bot fleet on mars
>>16419265SaaS or SooS?
>>16419265Mars will be operated by open source AI, and the source will only be modifiable by the Martians.Can I interest you in a New Shepard ride? Its more in your price range.
>>16419216Just a stock price pump event for TSLA..
>>16419268Many people talk about the "Martians" as a rogue civilization aside from Earth. But nobody talks about the "Phobians" or "Deimosians" or "Ceresianos "
>>16418931GPS
>>16419265https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1844390326804594780
>>16419127>10 starship launches per daysickos_ha_ha_yes.jpg
>>16419261They had it coming, all they had to do was approve the launches. Now they face obliteration instead.
Whats your opinion on this ?
>>16419127I want to believe
>>16419283>human-firstwatch it, chud
>>16419283
>>16419286
>>16419283>designed by a femaleNo
You will never make me give a shit about space stations until you make one that spins.
>>16419283it's low-ambition enough that I think they're serious, but like all space startups still has a %1 chance of actually getting any hardware into orbit
>>16419288Looks like a popup camper
>>16419127>TWO DECADESim tired of this meme
>>16419288>Design has obvious "down" direction>not spingravGross
>>16419288why is it full of wood paneling like some kind of hipster camper?
>>16419297but but but this could be us... (im on the right)
>>16419283What is even their business model? Dragon still has a price per seat of $60 million, that is still way too much for the majority of private tourists. Government agencies?
>>16419134This picture keeps getting worse with every repost. I'm being gaslighted.She's cute, talented and I will simp for my space goblin queen.You can't stop me.
>>16419304>What is even their business model?to collect venture capital money, party and fold after ten years
>>16419304having fun... thats it. There is no business model. Why everything has to have a "business model" (im desilusional and schizofrenic)
>>16419305Too bad their relationship didn't work out. Elon really needs someone in his life.
>>16419304>$60 millionThat doesn't sound right, wasn't Russia charging us $20-30m per Soyuz seat in the post-STS days?
is this smaller than starship?
>>1641931220 years ago, then they raised it to $90m / seat or
>>16419312Russians are no longer an option so the price just went up
>>16419288how does this expand?
>>16419286I’m glad they’re admitting the giant window was never going to happen. Watch the dome window shrink and flatten over time too.>>16419299I think its based. I’m glad space stations can have decorations other than sterile white and whatever green the russians have going on.
>>16419312That's $60m in 2024-25, anon...
>>16419283https://x.com/vast/status/1844393014069743944video clip
>>16419277that's insane.
>>16419299>hy is it full of wood paneling like some kind of hipster camper?Can you imagine the amount of mold this shit could grow ? Mir will be a joke in comparison
https://x.com/vast/status/1844400720768094408
>>16419309I think the main problem was that she was fine with all the trans stuff (so mainstream leftist/liberal views I guess) and he thought it was a shitty idea
>>16419317That's the neat part
>>16419323https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efSaGWcmLgQyoutube version
fuck your business model. I want this >plywood>luxurious>cup of tea (or whatwever that is) >black girls
>>16419323I am selling my stake in Vast, are there any buyers here?My expectations have changed
>>16419283https://x.com/maxhaot/status/1844398019577344026the CEO comments
>>16419331>black girlsatrocious. We need barefoot nordic girls accidentally flashing their mesmirising aryan soles when they float around
>>16419304this is just extended dev stuff, I think they are banking on Starship working out
>>16419322Goddamned inflation
>>16419331>>black girlsEww
>>16419313much smaller, its a minimodule that can be launched with Falcon 9basically a development platform before Starship becomes operational
>>16419331>>16419335I'm still waiting for the design posted earlier>>16418740>>16418779
>>16419297What I think is interesting is that given the table and window placement 1 of 2 things must be the case:“down” is zenith to keep the window facing earthThe widow doesn’t face earth some or all of the timeI know ISS keeps nadir nadir. does tiangong? did mir and skylab? Or did they face the same direction regardless of where they were in their orbit?
>>16419300>>16419288>>16419331This whole "human first" design is such bullshit, it looks like an over glorified yoga studio.The amount of wasted space, flammable materials and lack of any actual human amenities (nebulous "crew interface/quarters" don't count) is a joke.>>16419333>Sovereign astronauts>Self-funded private individuals>achieve their important orbital mission objectivesHoly Kek, it's totally not a space hotel for sure.
>>16419317it doesn't, they are going to have 4 crew rotations before they deorbit it
Only non-whites will be allowed in space, apparently.
>>16419345>over glorified yoga studio>wasted space>human amenitiesHere, this is your space optimized hyper efficient, high tech spation
>>16419304>What is even their business model?government and rich astronauts. reminder that this is just a demo space station that will only last for 4 missions. a larger station will be in the works if this pans out.>>16419335>long bony white feet instead of soft small asian/latina feetew
>>16419349They’re marketing this to third world countries that don’t have enough money for a real space program but just enough to send a guy up here for national prestige and who have been shafted by nasa/roscosmos for decades. aka, brown countries.
>>16419297Patience >>16419299It's called soul. When the ISS is the only comparison it's difficult to make fun of any design decisions
>>16419335>>16419353>day 130 aboard space station freedom>female astronaut """payload specialist""" pictured in her NASA issue uniform
>>16419357wow
>>16419357Life imitates art
>>16419352had style
>>16419304Jed has like three billion dollars. He's just having fun>>16419345>engineers in charge of design decisions
>>16419255F9 does biweekly flights
>>16419357I wonder how long into commercial space stations until someone joins the 69 mile high club
>>16419345>flammable materialsI challenge you to point to a flammable material there and don’t say the wood paneling.
> Historically, zero gravity sleep has been uncomfortable for astronauts due to a lack of standardized and consistent restraint systems during weightless sleep and a deficit in the distributed gravity forces humans are accustomed to on Earth. Vast’s patent-pending signature sleep system is roughly the size of a queen bed, provides a customized amount of equal pressure throughout the night, and accommodates side and back sleepers alike.
>>16419357>ywn hold a pretty girl's hand in zero-g
>>16419365Mir and ISS will always be more sovlful than the orbital yoga studio
>>16419370And the toiled ? Nobody has though about it ? Minimum it has to look like this
>>16419368>point out the stuff that can catch fire>but please ignore the woodkys
>>16419373trash everywhere, no space, cables and shit everywheregay
>>16419373>tfw space astronauts will never have thanksgiving dinner in a respectable 0.167g on a moon table
>>16419374Why? It's not a space hotel.
>>16419375yeah nigga. Wood is easily treated with flame retardant and not actually all that flammable to begin with. The real problems are going to be with things like tapes, glues, and cable shielding. Same as every other spacecraft.
>>16419374there's a reason why they dont show it. its a vacuum hose you hope doesnt break.
>>16418766oh my blue archive loli gacha game music
>>16419374Probably just going to rely on the “toilet” that’s already in dragon.
>>16419381>>16419384Someone smarter then me, answer this, ¿why dont they use a system like plane toilets? They work using pressure differential and they are pretty reliable
>>16419384oh yeah a dragon is going to be docked anyway
>>16419193huh? i thought it already did this?
>>16419389considering where it's coming back from it's pretty bigthat thing is hauling ass right now so it's gotta slow down a lot before it can reenter
>>16419288>A tableDoes this spin... or is it filled with velkro to hold things... or... I don't get it?
>>16419386my guess is some kind of design autism they have against it
>>16419357mama.
>>16419386Plane toilets still rely on gravity to keep the "payload" in the bowl.
>>16419399probably velcro. you know all space stations have tables, right?
>>16419193Does that thing have a purpose for the DoD beyond being goon material for the spaceplane autists?
>>16419405>you know all space stations have tables,Now... I do, I always thought that weightlessness made them either inappropiate or unfitting.
>>16419406flies off for a year and does top secret stuff
>commercial spacecall me when there's a space station with a McDonalds, then space will truly be commercialized
>>16419407you have to do something to make stuff stay on them. velcro or tape sticky side out. but otherwise they serve the same purpose they do on earth.
>>16417119I HAVE SO MUCH PAIN IN MY TEETH! ELON MUSK SPACEX HELPP MEEE I AM IN PAIN.
so why does elon have such an autistic hatred for space elevators?
Guys help me out here: did Musk riding on a dragon capsule get memoryholed? I could've sworn he's flown up on one of his F9s a year or two ago. Not confusing him for Bezos.
what's the news on the orbital hop tomorow?
>>16419426Actually, musk was starman in the roadster on the falcon heavy, he is now on mars. The dude we see these days is a musk look alike to fill the role until musk has made peace with the martians.
>>16419426Few people except the most knowledgeable /sfg/ posters know that Elon was on the first FH launch in his Roadster and later returned with a MOOSE device.
17 Tankers to NHROKEK
>>16419370Seems comfy to me!
>>16419433Retard
THEYRE BREAKING IN
>>16419434mannequin ass shit
https://x.com/VisitBocaChica/status/1844417759834468742>New Marine Safety Information Bulletin (MSIB)/ Notice to Mariners (NOTMAR) issued for possible #Starship #IFT5 launch on 13 Oct 2024 from 7:00 a.m.-11:00 a.m. http://msib.bocachica.com #BocaChica #SafetyZonehttps://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1844418424895832559>Starship Flight 5: MSIB released for the potential October 13 launch date.>Pending FAA approval.http://nsf.live/starbase
>>16419438mannequin this!>BRAAAAAPPPPPP
>>16419437>I fucking love sabotage
>>16419304None of the retards the replied to you know anything. To give a rundown, they want non-NASA astronauts for the most part, like ESA, CSA, private individuals etc. They ALSO have the Haven-Lab which is in the vide behind the wooden doors. Its essentially a bunch of microwave sized slots for people to pay to send up to do whatever they need inside it. These slots supply power, internet and Vast themselves have software being designed so that anyone who buys a slot can easily perform their experiments. These slots are rented out and can be brought back down from Haven-1, and continually swapped out when people need to get results so its a pretty good system. There have already been two buyers in Redwire who did picrel and Yuri who are basically aending up a centrifuge that they themselves can rent out spots on for anyone that needs that specifically. One more thing, they will be training their own astronauts so you get a full package deal which is especially important to private individuals.
>>16419440>ass and feetwhat a fucking slut. everyone who marries a female astronaut is a huge cuck.
>>16419288This looks sleek as fuck, and I love the design. It fits the ‘futuristic’ setting but also putting wood in space looks AHHHHH awesome. Also deployable table
>>16419446you ripped that comment straight from reddit didnt you
>>16419290Vast plans to make one in the future its like their dreamstation. Also I believe that the Airbus station will partly spin at the bottom as seen in picrel so people can exercise. The future is now.
>>16419437>shanks you’re spacecraftnothing personnel kid
>>16419332You do know its entirely privately owned by Jed right. You cant sell your stake
>>16419288Did they move the dome window? I thought it was on the "nose" in the original renders?
>>16419434>dead astronaut storage>>16419437Look at that fabric debris flaking off, disgusting
>>16419386Do you like wasting the precious air inside your station?
>>16419417>elon musk please save me
>>16419425Space elevators are fucking stupid. We went over this recently with some real materials and numbers. The rate of mass to orbit per day was worse than what Falcon 9 is doing right now
>>16419458
>>16419468I WILL smoke in space, and I'll blow it right in a non-smoker's face if they complain about it.
>>16419471You smell like a dumpster even fresh in the morning
>>16419290Read what that says for me
>>16419262Buy some land here somewhere, living in the middle of a wasteland will be good prep for whoever wants to go to Mars too
>>16419475is there video of this?
>>16419449>sleep>cook>toiletExercise isn't even on top 3 resons for spingrav
>>16419474Good that means you'll keep your distance from me.
>>16419468Apparently submariners smoke like chimneys. I would have thought with the fire danger and recycled air they wouldn’t but what do I know.
>>16419479What the fuck do you expect the first commercial space starions to be? There isnt any money in the system yet because its unproven, they need to get the very basics up and running first. Then once it becomes proven and flights become cheaper the customerbase expands, THEN they can start doing massive fuck off stations
>>16419478not that I've seen yet
>>16419482None that I know of, at least not during a deployment. Some don't even drink on board
>>16419479I suspect that micrograv cooking is easier than ISS makes it out to be. Can’t use a pan but you could you something like a panini press and strong ventilation fans to control smoke and steam.
>>16419426do you also happen to remember Halley's comet crashing on the Moon by any chance?
7hhttps://x.com/Tesla/status/1843922599765590148
>>16419491*8h 8min
whoever wrote this article has no idea what novel means
>>16419493novel for the writer
>>16419493Its likely a Boeing paid shill. So they wont want to you to know about the other one
>>16419488The self imposed mechanical requirements are absurd. It's worth reading the constraints the guys that made that cookie oven had to go through. As always, space is easy, we've just had the DMV in charge for 50 years
>>16419497This lol, the writer just now learned about aerobraking and thinks nobody else knows about it yet.>>16419499It isn't even a good looking cookie, more like a shitty muffin.
>>16418474You need 3 points on a plane + origin in order to triangulate; in case you forgot your trig. There are over 6,000 Starlink satellites in orbit right now. At any given time, any Starship/SuperHeavy would be able to talk to the entire network with extra telemetry that no other customer would have access to, and be able to get exact positional data with reference to origin (itself) + 3 satellites + ground station for RTLS. That would be more than enough info for it to then know exactly where it was geospatially to the prodigious degree of achieving 1/2 cm accuracy.
>>16419487I could be wrong about that, or the info could be outdated. I got that from a coworker who used be on submarines but he’s been out for 15+ years at this point.
>>16419483If you can only have 1 m^3 of spingrav space, it should be the toilet
>>16419493>X-37BExpensive piece of shit. And to think there are boomers who believe locksneed and boing are capable of interstellar travel but they are just hiding it.
>>16418478The barge moves to a degree because of the ocean itself, anon. A fixed point on the earth itself and the tower both are stationary and not influenced by what anything else, like the ocean, does. SpaceX has been nailing the center pretty frequently on its landing, but the drift we see is entirely due to the water below influencing the ship despite its best efforts to remain stationary.
>>16419392I remember hearing somewhere that it performs aerobrake maneuvers to change its inclination
>>16419509> to change its inclinationHow? Wouldn't that just change the peri/apogee?
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1844437064647049576>Starship 30 is currently in between the chopsticks awaiting final stacking for flight 5 at T-minus 64 hrs and counting!>10/10/24
>>16419514
>>16418642>>16418646>>16418651>>16418656>>16418724There was a Wallstreet Journal Editorial board op-ed that came out either early today morning or late last night that basically called out the FCC and the Democractic majority lining pockets of their donors and playing politics in rescinding the Starlink grant for rural networking for being "insufficient and incapable", even though its been mission integral to assisting the survivors of Helene and Milton in North Carolina and Florida.The timing of this and the New Yorker piece basically reeks of desperation of the current administration in trying to change the narrative to focus away from the fact that their actions were clearly malicious and an abuse of power, back towards "Musk is bad because Musk, and therefore all his other companies are evil because."The tide is clearly turning in the public mind that perhaps, just perhaps, the present admin independent of what good or bad they've done, have clearly failed certain American citizenry interests to the point where lives may have been harmed or even lost, out of political lawfare and smearing.
>>16419515
>>16419477No, its infested with Sand People. Its not the kind of prep you need.You are missing the whole point of going to Mars.There are no Sand People
>>16419521>There are no Sand PeopleIf random robot rovers kept landing on my home every few years I'd hide from them too.
>>16419437I want a space knife
>>16419520God it looks like shit
>>16419488I really want to bake cakes or make bread in 0g, imagine the rise you could get!
X-37 is not real
>>16419517>desperation of the current administration in trying to change the narrativesame with biden claiming that he was deploying starlink and not elon
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1844413144204181544So the commies are trying to spread negative news the free Starlink thing. Jesus Christ.
>>16419517I certainly hope so, but kind of hard to tell X may be a echo chamber to some extent, R*ddit is a complete echo chamber and then there are probably a lot of people that don't follow or care about this at allStarlink itself is getting better known I think just due to increased use (and sometimes due to getting mentioned in contexts like this)but after some point you have people that have tested it themselves, kind of difficult to try to lie to them about if they have actual experience that is opposite of what the slanted article is trying to tell them
>>16418642>>16418549Openly lying behind the "he said she said"
>>16419533yeah i saw it all over reddit a few days ago
>>16419533Violence may be justified against such "people" at a certain point.
starlink is just such an obvious social good, the only way media could win is by pretending it doesn't exist. It's just completely retarded to attack a company providing free emergency services to the country.
>>16419104
>>16419533its said that "a lie has speed, but truth has endurance", but the saying forgets that alot of people would rather perpetuate the lie even if they know its a lie because they hate the truth
>>16419500> lol, the writer just now learned about aerobraking and thinks nobody else knows about it yet!!!Knows more about it than you. The difference is entering the atmosphere to perform a maneuver, then returning to orbit. It's not like a reentry.
>>16419527Are you a professional baking bro from /ck/?Or, are you a housewife?Asking because we need top notch bakers who want to work on Mars, and know the art.
>>16419545but thats not new either. the x-37b has done it before. its known to do it for inclination changes.
>>16419549Baking can be entirely automated
>>16419533https://nypost.com/2024/10/09/business/elon-musks-starlink-charges-helene-survivors-for-free-internet/
>>16419556>Ariel Zilber>Zilber (Yiddish: זילבּער, Russian: Зильбep) is a surname and a variation of SilberOnce again I am forced to notice a pattern
>>16419534>>16419532The area impacted and washed away by Helene would have received some 20-25,000 Starlink terminals over several years. It's pointless to consider whether SpaceX would have delivered that by this time hurricance season or not, but its also true that rescinding of that agreement certainly made it impossible for SpaceX to deliver any terminals at all. And given all the devastation seen in the aftermath of the historic floods, it would have made a material impact positively more than the assistance SpaceX and others + government are providing now.The country is pretty divided along party lines, and natural disasters is usually when people put politics aside and work together. But this is the first time where the political and lawfare consequences that usually are abstract and hard to make tangible, have become tangible. We have raw numbers that terminals would have gone there. We know that SpaceX and Elon reacted FIRST, and we also know there was an actual issue with coordination to the degree that Secretary of Transport did have to get on a call with Elon to resolve, which he admitted on a CNN interview in a muted way before going back to the admin talking points on misinformation. It's easy to gloss over, but clearly something happened to the degree that he had to step in and personally resolve in a way that otherwise would have never been resolved.The biggest threat to democracy more than any populist, is when citizenry become distrustful of institutions to look out for their well being, engaging in politicking to suit their own interests. Ironically, in this, the two parties are the same, but real world consequences rarely align so openly and clearly as Starlink and Helene. It's a lightning in a bottle event that the Democratic party is clearly trying to combat as they have no real answer against it, and they're in the wrong about it. Time will tell if they succeed.
>>16419283I think it’s dumb I can’t wait for them to go under in 4 or 5 years so I don’t have to hear about them anymore
>>16419556>wow free cell service>what do you mean you won’t pay for my iPhone 16 pro max™?!?
>>16419556>zilber
>>16419517It's parts of the DNC political/media machine defecting and schmoozing up to Elon because they no longer believe they can win the election and have become aware that he's capable of out-competing their informational control and wiping out their industry
>>16419556you always know its a hit piece when the title says "Elon Musk's _____" in it. if they want to write a positive article they leave elon's name out of it. its called framing, and its another reason why people hate journalists.
Kek this faggot must have a word filter for mentioning starlink, because it auto deleted my comment. Goes on about satellite direct to cell that could save your life, but won't say anything about starlink lmao.
>>16419568Musk should wipe them out anyway, and not due to revenge or anything like thatyou simply can't trust these people
>>16419545Why'd you add exclamation points to the quote?What a strange post, what was your intent with this?
>>16419568or maybe somebody with the tiniest shred of integrity who cannot ignore how massively the government failed the American people for the sake of petty internal conflict
>>16419571is he talking about some other direct to cell service? I think some Iphones have some feature to connect with some GEO sats in a limited way but other than that the only other one is StarlinkAST space mobile is not operational yet, they just sent the first ones (5 in LEO, I think at 1000km or something) like a week ago and unfurled them a few days ago but they have so few of them that there would be like 20min of service per day Starlink has like 200 D2C sats, the minimum would be 300 for constant coverage so they have spotty service now but its still the only general operational D2C system right now
>>16419533Kill journalists
>>16419556You just know that thousands of people will only read the headline, move on, and then remember this event for years as "that time musk charged hurricane victims $400!!" as if it were an undeniable fact, along with the dozens of others facts such as "spacex's rockets keep exploding" or "elon musk personally sent an ad to space". kek, the misinformation cycle is unbreakable.
>>16419199bro it's just a bomb, you can have bombs in the united statesI EDC mine
>>16419572They likely know that most old-guard media is going down the drain, but are still operating under the impression that they can garner special favors from Elon by playing nice, when in reality he'll tell them "put your news program on X and if it doesn't succeed, too bad"See the Don Lemon contract negotiation debacle for reference. The guy was smart to jump the fence early but not smart enough to realize that they were actually playing a different game on the other side.
>>16419574
>>16419582most people only read headlines then jump to the comments. they're in it for infotainment and cheap drama. if you want to get the word out then you need reputable talking heads. these days those are streamers and youtubers, but most people dont pay atttention to spaceflight ones. you need a generalist who also covers spaceflight regularly, but spaceflight is too niche for generalists. its a chicken and egg thing.
>>16419554Yes, but we need a pioneer to figure out how it works on Mars, with extremely restricted ingredients, and different G conditions. After a couple of experts figure out recipes Martian people vote best, they will work on designing the baking machines, and ramp in-situ production of the basic ingredients, which will mostly be synthetic and not real wheat. Some imported ingredients allowed at first, but not forever.
FREE Energy day you don't need to pay the merchant fees today
>>16419568Its this: >>16419574
>>16419562They partnered with SpaceX dragon to ferry the crews, and probably a Falcon 9 to boost it into orbit. So it has a high chance of going, the hard part is done. Its not too ambitions, but a space hotel for 3rd world governments and tourists. And that probably has enough appeal, and funding, to reach completion.After a short run, it will fail.
We're going to Io.>b-b-b-b-b-b-but muh le heckin r-r-radiatio-Don't care. We're going.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1844442771257688154Bezos funded env group trying to sue SpaceX
>>16419582>the misinformation cycle is unbreakablenot unbreakable… but you have to be willing to execute a lot of journalists.
>>16419589>these days those are streamers and youtubers, but most people dont pay atttention to spaceflight onesYeah, for instance I thought Tim Dodd was generally well known and quite popular among normies, considering how many of his videos get millions of views, but nobody seems to know him outside of the circle of people who actively look for spaceflight related content? Hell, at most i've seen some people calling him weird and a musk fanboy, and.. that's it.
>>16419602People are not actually interested in real news and prefer clickbait, not sure how executing journalists would help
>>16419599Based>>16419601To the surprise of absolutely no one
>>16419602funny how people stopped saying "follow the money" when it used to be a common phrase until recently
>>16419580But I like Berger, Davenport, Foust and Clark :(
>>16419571>Here's things you can do in an emergency situation, when the worst happens and you aren't prepared>Just go subscribe to starlink, carry a antenna around everywhere, and have a constant power source at all times!
>>16419599What a gorgeous image. I seriously need one of these for ever celestial body in our solar system.>gtgraphics.deOh, going to look that up and... the majority of their work are your generic fantasy starwars-esque landscapes :(
>>16419609Eric Berger is probably on his way out of Ars. Have you seen the comments there? Its all anti-SpaceX liberals, raging against Elon and Trump.I think he can go it alone and do a PROPER job of space reporting, unlike Everyday nu-male wedding enjoyer.
>>16419406I wouldn't worry about it
>>16419610Yeah? That’s a pretty low bar for emergency preparedness.I don’t have starlink because I'm not in a place where it makes sense, but I keep a gasoline generator for emergencies.
>>16419604i feel like he's basically a nobody with these numbers. today you need to be doing multiple videos a day, covering a plethora of topics, and garnering millions of views.
>>16419610>direct to cell
>>16419219Whats with the small LOX/CH4 tanks at the nose of S30?
>>16419618Shut up gayboy. Your ai shit looks terrible
>>16419598where can i see video of elon jumping
>>16419622They're called header tanks. First time you've seen it?
>>16419620>Starbase tour first half 5.4 million views>second half 1.1 millionThat's crazy
>>16419622hello newfriend. Those are header tanks. They provide pressure to get the main tanks started and are in the nose to provide balance during reentry and bellyflop.
>>16419001If this is true, they'll nail it first try methinks. Booster and Chopsticks are both seemingly designed to survive slight inaccuracies with booster position and velocity when coming down for landing. Arms aren't going to perfectly close right when the pins are above them, they expect different arm contact points, the sloped stringers indicate that its possible for the arms to "hug" the booster fairly early on and then the booster will slowly slide down until pin contact is achieved. If booster hardware is solid, I think they'll first try it.
>>16419598Need one of these made of it.
>"""payload specialist""" aboard the Mars Transfer Vehicle
>>16419637Once again proclaiming these images would be absolutely perfect without the focus on feet
>>16419630Or maybe they just feed into the engines during landing burn? Could be wrong about them feeding main tanks.
>>16419632Finally... interplanetary hyperloop.
>>16419637I'd do an orbital insertion with her, if you understand my meaning
>>16419643I’m not quite sure I follow.
>>16419601Fucking rat
>>16419643Wtf do you mean. At a distance of 1m it would take you 16 hours to revolve and require 2.6e-40 joules. That's way too precise and way too much time spent spinning around someone.
>One small step for man!>Kathryn Bauer poses following EVA 3, marking the first female bootprints on the lunar service and the longest crewed expedition to date
>>16419601Here's your "team space"
>>16419643I can refuel her, with my extendable proboscisHer sperm tank is low fuel
>>16419657krystal>>>footfags
Meanwhile, in Chinahttps://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1844398661251531187> Liftoff at 13:50UTC on October 10, Long March 3B launched the 3rd high-orbit internet satellite from Xichang
>>16419643I don't get it.
>>16419657We get it you like feet, generate something else
>>16419660wtf do you mean man? what kind of isp would she get out of sperm anyway?
>>16419664
>>16419663literally me
>>16419664>Hypergolic soviet trashNobody fucking cares.
I don't understand this feet meme, what's so attractive about them?
>>16419662But Krystal gets you banned
>>16419664>Hypergolic soviet trashI care. Villager casualties?
>>16419675only footjobseverything else about them is cringe
>>16419678Kys
>>16419677https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1844382868900040923>Liftoff did occur...and it seems it might have caused some people to be shocked when they heard bangs and shaking and thought if there was either a thunderclap or a missile launch (somewhere in SW Hunan Province, close to the boosters drop zone). Maybe?
>>16419680LMS
>>16419662You both need to kys. Stay in Hawaii, subhumans arent allowed in Brownsville
ahem
>>16419688nawww bruh what are thooose???
>>16419675It's called having taste.
>>16419689https://x.com/teslaownersSV/status/1767730611685572626
>>16419692lmao imagine a /sfg/ anon wearing SpaceX shoes in highschool and getting bullied for it
>>16419637>>16419690>Those eyebrowsHoly fuck please stop with the AI slop>>16419675I think what starts a lot of people down the path is the perspective. If you can see a girl's feet, you can most likely see down her legs, and the rest of her body as well. The association is what gets people. That's why 90% of foot content has the rest of the girls body in view.
/sfg/ - Soles and Feet General
>>16419692
wen stack?
AI just can't compete.
Footniggers killed the general
>>16419707we're here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFNjtGeUuHo
>>16419707Metercels are worse
>>16419708>fat retad eing a doomer about timelinesfuck you, elon will land on mars 2 years from now
nsf: 2025 fuel transfer is not happening. its impossible. spacex is in a production bottleneck. they're far behind on their timeline.
>>16419712Wrong
>>16419623If you weren't retarded you'd know at a glance that couldn't possibly be AI
>>16419710kek
>>16419715it literally is ai though.
>>16419715That's fine. Even some of the brightest minds make errors when thinking about what current AI can or can't do.
https://x.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1844413458122670092/starship-class core with 8 haven-1 modules by 2028
>>16419511That'd be an aerogravity assist more than an aerobrake. Perigee inside atmo, use aero surfaces to steer, pop back up on new inclination, raise perigee.
>>16419726fuck you thunderfaag
>>16419727>iss replacement by 2028yeah right
>>16419729Make sure to buy more Teslas with every paycheck you get. Go into debt. They're an appreciating asset you know.Is there a heavenly reward in the Musk cult for defending literally everything Musk has said and done? The perfect being can do no wrong apparently.
>>16419727>>16419730this thing is meant to fly on starship which wont be operational by then lol
>>16419725It's notNo I won't explain whyYou should be able to work it out yourself
remember that berger article about axiom being kill? the problem is that the economics for space stations dont add up. you need to put at least 7 paying customers on a short flight every month. you cant be sending 4 people up for a month. its not economic.
Just woke up, not reading 1.1k replies. What happened?
>>16419739I wouldn't want to stay for a month >>16419740Nothing ever happens
>>16419739just put the three seats back into dragon
whats with the giant flag
>>16419740New Vast interior released and it’s sovl, more Flight 5 stuff, Milton was a joke.
>>16419727>Artificial gravity stationUnless the inside can spin freely of the outer shell there's zero chance that's the final design, the rotation would hell on those solar arrays also>Haven-2 is just 8 Haven-1's in a spoke around an oversized node>Launch by 28'Kek, unless they have a new industry partner as capable as Thales this should scream vapourware to investors
>>16419745>sovlOrbital yoga studio
>>16419746>inside can spin freely of the outer shellhow new are you to /sfg/ that you dont know the stick's rotation axis?
>>16419740>>16418858
>>16419740mars update, starbase mural, x37-b aerobraking, new starlink hit piece, vast module interior, feet, i think that's all
>>16419745I like the beige, it has TNG vibes
>>16419599Io probably looks so interesting, send a surface lander there now!
>>16419746It doesn't rotate that way.
>>16419746>a new industry partner as capable as ThalesThales Alenia is not a name you want to be bringing up when talking about things that aren't VC scams
>>16419748>the rotation axis I know the rotation axis, my issue with that render is that it places a new set of arrays in the middle that were missing from the first designs even then the arrays might shake themselves given that the move the centre of gravity slightly beyond the centre point
Blumpf is 2c over Kam now on PredictIt which historically skewed in her favor. If Blumpf wins, do you really expect legislature and law to clear away for SpaceX?
>>16419763we talk about this every day the answer is yes it would be better for the company. It doesn’t require asking the thread every damn day, it’s common sense
>>16419762explain what you mean by "inside spin freely of outside" before moving the goalpostyou are shitposting without any idea what you're talking about and it shows
Are we ded?
>>16419770no
>>16419763Dormf cares very much about optics and legacy, and progress in spaceflight is the sort of thing where his name would be recorded forever. He also likes having his knob slobbed by powerful men (in more ways than one I have my suspicions) and Elon is playing into it perfectly. I'm in a swing state and voting for him as a single issue voter (the issue is spaceflight)
>>16419222>Title 36 Parks, Forests, and Public Property>§ 7.96 National Capital Region.>Golf and tennis; fees. No person may use golf or tennis facilities without paying the required fee, and in compliance with conditions approved by the Regional Director. Trespassing, intimidating, harassing or otherwise interfering with authorized golf players, or interfering with the play of tennis players is prohibited.
>>16419773If youre in spaceflight general and not single issue voting over spaceflight you are a tourist
>>16419770No, anyone suggesting otherwise is a popsci slurping tourist retard who's never paid attention to spaceweather
>>16419776I just said I was goober
>>16419778Is there any other scale for solar activity?Because the NOAA scale is logarithmic and that should mean that a G5 is the end of the world but it rarely is.
>>16419776kek
>>16419770Rough day to be a satellite but otherwise no.
>>16419750>feetastronauts. living and working in space. feet are just incidental.
>>16419789Hmmmn... how do I actually interpret that to don't fall for easy fearmongering? Or can someone point me to what I should check to understand all of that?
>>16419783This is primarily a proton event, X-rays are near normal.https://solarham.com/
>>16419697kek. its real.
>>16419795NOAA has several spaceweather pages but I just use solarham to aggregate everything. There might be other sites like it but I never bothered looking.
>>16419744The flag of retaliation has been raised
welp, now it’s 5 o clock at faa hq and no license dropped.
>>16419808It won't drop until Friday/Saturday
>>16419808we'll get it TWO MINUTES before launch
>>16419808I'd expect 5pm ET Friday.
>>16419805What will the Mars flag look like?
>>16419733Vast should hedge their bets and design it to fit in New Glenn’s fairing.
>>16419813
>>16419818
>>16419804Well, I have checked solarharm, but woah if it feels overwhelming with a lot of things that I don't quite understand.
>>16419813An aperture design with an outer red circle and an inner blue one to represent transfer windows.
>>16419789>Rough day to be a satelliteWhat can satellites do protect themselves against this, outside of just thoughts and prayers?
>>16419821Well as a simple rule, if the electricity is still on it's a nothingburger as that will be one of the first things to go during Carrington type event. Less obvious things will be people receiving random electrical shocks from objects and isolated reports of cattle being electrocuted by barbedwire fences.
>>16419802>no toe rings or ankletsHard pass.
>>16419826>and isolated reports of cattle being electrocuted by barbedwire fences.what the fuck? Is that strong?
>>16419826I'd also add random wildfires and pipeline explosions to the list.
>>16419829In some places the fences can stretch for tens of miles with three or four metal strands. One of the top ways cattle are killed by lightning is due to fences.
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1YqJDkbjazvGV~4 h 30 mins till livestream for the roboday
>>16419825Ignore their star trackers and accept that they’re slightly warmer today.
>>16419819uhh henlo, based department?
>>16419831I'd add random niggers running wild but that's just me :)
>>16419825Power down sensitive instruments, they are unlikely to work properly anyway.
>>16419829>>16419833During the Carrington event, telegraphs didn't require a powersource. The induced current was sufficient to operate them.
>>16419845youre lying.
>>16419826>>16419833Is it the wire fencing itself that gets electrified, or is it electric fence transformers getting overclocked to the point of lethality?
>>16419836Predictions? I expect him to say that they will send some of those Optimus robots to Mars, perhaps along with those Spot robots from Boston Dynamics?
>>16419850i expect him to hobble out a robot which looks like its possed itself surrounded by a teamof experts trying not to make it fall on the perfectly flat floor it has been programmed exactly to walk on, and thenhe says2 more weeks and these will replace all human jobs. the end.
>>16419850Spot dogs would be a great payload, especially with the extra arm thing to operate stuff
>>16419854They've already said they've had few of the bot working continuously in the factory floor. What I want to see are how much more advanced the robots are now, although its only been few months since the last update. So I dont expect too much, but maybe we'll see more integration with voice/chat commands wit both car/bot
>>16419848>Loomis, Elias; Kingston, G. P.; Lyman, C. S.; Twining, Alexander C.; Kirkwood, Daniel; Cornette, A.; Poey, Andreas; Trask, John B.; et al. (1859). "The great Auroral Exhibition of August 28th to September 4th, 1859". American Journal of Science. 2nd series. 28 (84): 385. [...] in more than one case the north and south [telegraph] lines were worked during the daytime of September 3d solely by the atmospheric influence!You're a bot.
>>16419857>They've already said they've had few of the bot working continuously in the factory floor.its bullshit. if they had robots doing real work you can bet your ass there would be an hour long stream of a bot doing exactly that. instead we jsut see them clumbsily sorting pots or whatever.
>>16419849Transformers get fucked but even ordinary metal fences have induced electrical currents generated in them. Anything long and conductive like a pipeline or electrical transmission line will be affected with the effect increasing in proportion to its length.
So they will attempt booster catch this time. Any new goals for the upper stage? Or just a rerun of last time with the heatshield hopefully not eating itself.Any (dummy) payload deployments along the way?
>>16419863>Any new goals for the upper stageSurvive reentry with no damage.Land on target this time.Dodge all marine life.
>>16419856>the extra arm thing to operate stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYnOGAvQEgkyou mean like one that is in this video? i don't know how they could make use of them in the first missions, unless they are placed directly in front of an assembly line. Perhaps they could be utilized for deploying things on the ground from the unmanned Starships, e.g. solar panels, but that might be cumbersome and take too much volume. I think Elon just wants to go all in, and wait for the first crew to start operating things such as the scouting rovers and ISRU plant.
>>16419868oh, never mind, I now see that Spot dogs can have that stick accessory on top of them.
Staging.>>16419878>>16419878>>16419878>>16419878Image limit reached.
>>16419860Why? Do you work at the Tesla factory? Or are you the actual bullshitter
>>16419598do you have the cutout of Elon I need it for reasons
>>16419899>magic is happening>no i dont have evidence
>>16419864What if we just removed all the marine life
>>16419582>and then remember this event for yearsretard
>>16419912>magicSo another Musk seether. "Its impossible, its magic, he cant do it" "It already happened, Musk didnt do anything"
>>16419776luckily my single issue overlaps with spaceflight very much
>>16419943have you considered not responding to trolls
>>16419300stop das gay
>>16419813This:>>16418003
>>16417877yes, the tens of millions of people who want to live in Florida should have only built stone castles on top of Florida's mountains
