Flight 6 in 9 days - editionprevious >>16465590
>>16468293Won't be in the States for Flight 6 but should be for Flight 7, I'll try to make the pilgrimage to Starbase for it
>>16468297Flight 7 is going to be nice with the new ship
SLS delenda est
>>16468297>Won't be in the States for Flight 6Why not? Are you European?
>>16468304An American in EuropeOn a related note where do people usually watch the launches from?
^fag
>16468314calm down
Old clip, but the FAA got humiliated in front of Congress for delay Starship.https://x.com/RepMcCormick/status/1848487522386547001
>>16468139>RedditGo back
>>16468309Most of the videos people post online are from the south end of South Padre Island.
Vote for your favourite planet!https://commoninja.site/sfg
>>16468327Thanks for the info. I'll try to get on this jetty the day of, though I'm sure it gets pretty crowded
>>16468340Fuck off use strawpoll
>>16468343It's not too terrible, this is from IFT-5
>>16468343For IFT-2, I got to the park around 1amThe car line for entry was already a mile long. I have no idea how awful a day launch is going to be because it's a public beach and people will have been there all day
>>16468353>>16468355I'm thinking I'll book a hotel for the day before, then walk to the beach early in the morning. I imagine it won't be as crazy as IFT-2 or 5 since they'll have caught a booster twice by Flight 7. Appreciate the help anons
CZ5 familly hardware arrived at Wenchang on November 1, furthermore a CZ5B launch was listed as planned in the near future in an official update. Based on previous delivery time we can guess that they target between the 2nd half of December and early January. We only know that the payload isn't related to the manned space program. There are long standing rumors it will be a Guowang constellation launch.
>>16468363Will we get another one of these?
How come humans didn't evolve photosynthesis? I think it would be beneficial.
>>16468293>Flight 6 in 9 daysis it true?
>>16468413ya
>>16468412Solar energy is too dilute. You can't power a human or a civilization with it.
>>16468416that's earther talk. the mercuryians would beg to differ.
>>16468416So how come we didn't evolve nuclear power then???
>>16468419regulation
>>16468419Probably for the same reason plants reflect green light: the peak of the energy emissions spectrum is actually really hard to use compared to the more stable and reliable off-peak spectrum, which makes bad things happen to the photosynthesis cell parts less often. The extremely high energy in nuclear power is hazardous to the balance of accessible chemical reactions that drive biological processes.
>>16468421Why didn't they evolve silicon solar panels to harness the full spectrum of solar power? Imagine what a little solar powered bug could do
>>16468293i can't believe next flight is going to be so soon from now, the future looks bright.you could say it looks brilliant.
Without astronomers we wouldn't even know Mars is a planet.
wow this elon fellow seems really dedicated to this whole spaceflight thing huh
>>16468430Trump has talked about a home grown "Iron Shield" missile defense system
>>16468412there's a reason plants don't have arms or any other moving bodyparts anon.an entire day's worth of synthesis could power you for a short while but it's just not worth it.
Is gantry crane based booster catch the future of reuse? Are landing legs and tower arms on their way out?
>>16468436cringe, brilliant pebbles sounds so much cooler.
if mars ever builds a laser satellite constellation to defend itself from impactors, it should be called Ancile.
>>16468436What is AEGIS?
>The ship also will intentionally fly at a higher angle of attack in the final phase of descent, purposefully stressing the limits of flap control to gain data on future landing profilesSend Flapsama your energy
>>16468443a shield made of goatskin
>>16468437so same reason electric cars don't have solar panels?
>>16468427The processes for creating crystalline silicon can't be done with biologically available techniques.
>>16468449strangely apt comparison yes.
is the next flight using a different version of Starship?
>>16468363I would suggest two days before, because up until launch day you can drive down Highway 4 and get within about 300 feet of the rocket, pictures and videos don't do it justice until you're there in person
Anyone watching RGV Aerial Photography flyover review today?Zach is hosting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=405830Tli4c
>>16468443seems to be some ship based weapon and defense system, I would guess this thing would be have ground infrastructure as well in the very leastnot sure if space based interceptors make sense yet, but certainly something they should look into it with the advent of Starshipwas it always just due to launch cost or was there some technical problem previously?
>>16468419>he doesn't know about the naturally occurring breeder reactors
>>16468178Luna is a harsh mistress?
>>16468468it's not a breeder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklo
>>16468461No.
>>16468412It only works for animals at extremely small scales where surface area dominates volume. If you were plankton or maybe some kind of sentient slime mold it might be useful.
>>16468445Fuck it, normal to orbit Going to hit the atmosphere like a concrete highway barrier at mach 25
>>16468474>It only works for animals at extremely small scales where surface area dominates volume.Yep. >>16468427That's why I mentioned bugs
>>16468413Yep.
>>16468461no, the first v2 will fly IFT-7however it will still be using raptor 2's.
>>16468468breeder? i barely even know her.
https://x.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1855315949320098268V>VP of Launch @ SpaceX
>brother in law's wife asks if my starship model is the space shuttle
when is IFT 6
>>16468503IFT-2 anniversary
>>16468502Lol Artemis III will land and a large number of people will think>the space shuttle landed on the moon again? >doesn't it always do that?
>>16468502We will need to wait for every millenial, genx, boomer to die before people stop calling starship the space shuttle
>>16468502never speak to her again
>>16468509She is 22 lmao
2030s - Lunar Base2040s - Mars Base2110s - Callisto Base2150s - Titan Base
>>16468511educate your extended family on starship.
Bret Weinstein debunks the space shuttle:https://www.youtube.com/live/TP1Rv2g4wRs?t=1977s
>>16468514I don't want them to think I'm an autist with no hobbies :(It's so hard not to start sperging out about space in front of my family :(
>>16468512found the doomer
>>16468511total zoomer death
>>16468511>married at 22if your brother in law is 30 he's incredibly based and cunnypilled
>>16468517rocket tracking is a pretty interesting hobby? and its much less weird than shit like farming in your backyard
>>16468518Nope, I'm just realistic.After that it's interstellar exploration and the search for a new home for the children of Europa.But that will be in thousands of years.
>>164685122030 - Lunar base, population 1002040 - Mars base, population 20002050 - Callisto base, population 10,0002060 - Titan base, population 20,000
>>16468519the fuck did we do to deserve this.
>>16468519Fuck off. Other than boomers, we're the only ones actually interested in shit like this and pushing back against the woke agenda.
Long March 9 schedule has been moved forwardFirst stage reuse version is planned to have a first flight around 2030Full reuse version is planned to have a first flight 2033-2035
Long March 9 recovery system
>>16468515Why does this biologist pseud have any say on aeronautics. Please get me out of this timeline.
>>16468533Shameless
>>16468533Why don't they come up with their own design? Don't they feel any shame?
>>16468462That would be a really cool experience, appreciate the heads up
>>16468534he describes exactly what's wrong with the Shuttle.
>>16468533They didn't get the news that spacex is not catching with gridfins? That's absolutely moronic
>>16468502>"Yes, it is. Want to hear a funny story about it?"
>>16468524>Nope, I'm just realistic.That's what doomers think they're doing. They believe it's impossible to get more by fighting for more. You're a doomer.
>>16468532Waiting for starship to have a final design
>>16468532So the CASC new liquid rocket first launch schedule is now:* Long March 12: late 2024* Long March 8A: January 2025* 3.8m methalox rocket: 2025* Long March 10A: 2026* Long March 10: 2027* Long March 9 partial reuse: 2030* Long March 9 full reuse: 2033-2035
>>16468536how so?
>my husband's brother in law plays with toy rockets
>>16468502tell her she is going on the no mars list
>>16468532Previously the schedule was 2033 and 2040, respectively, I think
>>16468553Its a 1 to 1 ripoff of SuperheavyAt least the Soviets had unique designs, made the Space Race way more kino
>>16468561idiot.
>>16468557If Lego released a Starship set I'd buy it
>>16468566but the catch system is significantly different
>>16468569Why?
>>16468573your dad was significantly different last night.
>>16468566It's not really a 1-to-1 ripoff when they're using a gantry arrangement rather than the "chopsticks"
>>16468573The Chinese catch system is superior
>>16468532The schedule could potentially be moved left even further. The "8 engines in 7 years" program refers to the period 2021-2028 and includes the YF-215 engine. So the YF-215 is supposed to finish development by 2028.
>>16468583It might not be. The Chinese system keeps the launch pad safer in the event of a crash landing, however the SpaceX system allows for quicker re-stacking.
>>16468587copium. fuck you.
>>16468533it's a completely different 3d printed model every time i see it. i cant take any chinese plan seriously until i see a rocket on the pad
>>16468580Sure the catch mechanism is marginally different but the rocket itself isn't. They'll probably swap to chop-stick catch as well, now that SpaceX has shown it works
>>16468592It's consistently been a slightly enlarged SS/SH clone for the last 18 months
>>16468583How? It imposes structural requirements on the gridfins that Super Heavy's doesn't and doesn't (as far as I can see) put the vehicle directly back on the launch mount. It might not require the same degree of precision in navigation, but given that Super Heavy just made it work first try, that doesn't appear to be a problem worth optimizing around.
>>16468595They knew landing legs worked yet they still chose constricting wires for Long March 10A
>>16468596so what? it's pretty easy to copy and paste a picture or model. China has never built a super heavy lifter
I made a rather conservative estimate of the future of spess colonies2025 - mars base(spacex), population 100002026 - phobos base(spacex), populaton 70002027 - ceres base(spacex), population 90002028 - jupiter orbital base(spacex), popilation 7002029 - EVROPA base(spacex), population 120002030 - calisto base(spacex), population 80002031 - enceladus base(Spacex), population 150002032 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion2033 - venus cloud base(spacex), population 70002034 - saturn ring base(spacex), population 45002035 - titan cuck base(spacex), population less than a dozen2036 - uranus base(spacex), population 69002037 - neptune base(spacex), population 55002038 - first colony ship sent to proxima centauri b(spacex), population 1500002039 - Pluto (spacex), population 130002040 - colony ship sent to ross 128b(spacex), population 3700002041 - asteroid belt stations(china), population uncountable2042 - colony ships sent to GJ 1061(spacex), population 12500002043 - mercury solar death ray (spacex), population classified2044 - Eris cloning facility (spacex), population >1000000002045 - agartha base(spacex), population 7500002046 - Earth-X genocide wars2047 - earth colony(X empire), population 0.7 billion2048 - colony ships sent to andromeda galaxy via wormhole(X empire), population several billion2049 - Sagittarius A* colony(X empire), population ~13 trillion2050 - Mankind becomes a kardashev type 3 civilization(X empire), population ~70 quintillion 2051 - Moon base(NASA), population 0-10
>>16468597>It might not require the same degree of precision in navigationThis is very important. As far as we know China will be catching their booster on pins same as SpaceX
>>16468601most pessimistic Elon fan
>>16468597>rests directly on the grid finsI wouldn't over-interpret the model. It might be that the model is a low-quality simplification of the actual design, that's just meant to illustrate the general concept of the gantry structure. The Long March 10A is supposed to use separate catching structures according to the renders (see above)
>>16468601Way too conservative
>>16468598a smart choice. credit where credit is due.
>>16468601>2051 - Moon base(NASA), population 0-10this one is quite realistic
>>16468587Chinese system would be fine as long as there was a sort of rail/shuttle built into the pad.Gantries catch the tower, shift it over onto the railcar, which moves it the quarter-mile to the tower for stacking.They won't be doing any of this of course.
>spaceflight enthusiasts in the future will one day treat visiting Boca Chica like it's the Hajj
>>16468600The point is that they seem to have frozen the design. I thought that the changing design was what you were talking about and the reason you couldn't "take any chinese plan seriously"
>>16468585I'd say that it's ambitious but possible, but China seems to have had a lot of issues ramping up the flight rates for the LM-5, 6, and 7. Those were supposed to have completely replaced the LM-2, 3, and 4 by now, but most of the rockets China launches are still old-style hypergolic vehicles.
Starship is so fucking cool. Does any rocket even come close to it?
>>16468601>jupiter orbital baseHave fun microwaving yourself.
>>16468613thats meant to be the point of the joke fucking idiot. youre dismissed.
>>16468615Our Kaaba
>>16468616Are they going to actually build something or keep making powerpoints?
I ain't no cube worshipping desert bigot
>>16468583>>16468595>>16468614They'll probably swap to a chopstick catch system once they've landed a few dozen times and shown that the rocket is reliable enough that it won't damage the pad on every tenth launch or so
>>16468621/sfg/ doesn't want to admit it but it's true
>>16468621Energia
>>16468621
>>16468621starship 26m variant which will be announced by musk after the christmaX cocaine partyt. knower
>>16468632gone too soon...
>>16468625They had tested several YF-215 components by 2023>At present, the Research Institute has completed the engine scheme demonstration and successfully completed the torch igniter hot test, gas generator scaled parts hot test and thrust chamber scaled parts hot test assessment, as shown in Figures 6 to 8https://spacenews.com/china-makes-progress-on-raptor-like-engines-for-super-heavy-rocket/https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/hVS98dPdShTE-YTK-vm5AQ
>>1646863626m is the min possible diameter to colonise mars.
>>16468638If true then they are 10 years away assuming they work as fast as SpaceX
>>16468621The greatest to ever do it
>>16468639this cunt wants to skip all of the faggy transfer maneuvers and burn straight to mars all the way without stopping. I respect that.
>>16468595>>16468647God I love Saturn V so fucking much bros
>>16468630>milled li-aluminiumgay
>>16468517broaden the autism by being well read on many subjects that relate to it, but then dont only ever talk about that stuff no matter what. Look how that turned out for Buzz Aldrin.
>my brother in law and wife keep making up fake stories for the uzbekistani kite flying forum
>>16468571i keep scanning the shelves for any real space sets but its all starwars at the moment apart from one ok space shuttle set. its a shame really because a lego Falcon/Falcon Heavy would be good and obviously a Starship, with included catch tower really does need to be produced.
Evacuating Earthhttps://youtu.be/jwtbiCFGs1s?si=BB4rCDR01j3sJ98A
>>16468651>Look how that turned out for Buzz Aldrin.what he do
buy
>>16468646Isn't it approximately at a stage of development equivalent to Raptor in 2015, which then started doing test hops in 2019 and then a full integrated test in 2023?I don't know when they began doing those tests, only that they had done them before June 2023, when the text was published
apparently a bunch of tiles on the flaps will be intentionally left off for Flight 6
>>16468583using nearby villages to catch their boosters is not a sustainable model
>>16468653Youre a fucking embarasment. Stop playing with retarded toddler toys and get functioning model rockets instead.
>>16468655anon... check the everything app.
>>16468654>implying I'm going to watch this
>>16468647>>16468649yes. as with 60s/70s pickups, the SaturnV just looks cool.
>>16468652sorry buddy, ive been there. they dont fly kites. >>16468655he became known as 'Dr Rendezvous' because he only ever talked about how much he knew about orbital rendezvous. Basically became a bore, but seems like it was part of a general personality of being a bore. Dont get me wrong, much respect due to the man, but thats what his contemporaries had to say.
>>16468661its not either/or now is it anon. My kids are of an age to enjoy making these simple models, and i admit to liking them too.
>>16468668faggot! fuck you.
>>16468653>>16468661split the difference and stick model rocket engines in lego sets
Caelus.CAELUS.CAN WE GO BACK IN TIME AND GIVE HIM HIS PROPER NAME.
>>16468672ouranos
>>16468552Apparently the new 3.8m methalox rocket is called Long March 12BI guess that, by CASC standards, this name makes sense, because it's a SAST rocket that is 3.8m diameter like the Long March 12 and the name Long March 12A probably refers to the cancelled superheavy variant of Long March 12
>>16468670im not offended>>16468671entirely possible thanks for the idea lol
What TNO do (You) want humanity to learn more about? For me, It's Eris, Haumea and 2006 SQ372.
>>16468672no, but we can push for a better future for our children
>>16468676I only care about Titan and Dragonfly these days
>>16468676we should send an orbiter to Charon and have it never once point any of its instruments at Pluto.
>>16468676Sedna. Why is it so red?
>>16468676Eris and Dysnomia.
>>16468682Why is Dysnomia so black?
>>16468684Oh my god anon, you can't just ask planets why they're black
>>16468683false image
>>16468684it dey cultchur
>>16468688I never claimed it to be real.
> 4000K 40bar UF6 vapor-core nuclear reactor with potassium working fluid and 200MW disk MHD generator, aiming for 1 kW/kg overall power density at 22% efficiency (with fission-enhanced plasma conductivity) and 1590K radiators for spaceflight.If that's all you have today, it'll have to do.
>>16468692whatever its still misinformation
>>16468670really? you dont like this? admittedly its not up to the standard of the kit which let you make the sat5, shuttle AND LM, but its what we have right now.
>>16468676I just wanna know if the so-called "planet nine" and the Oort cloud actually exist or not.
>>16468680Why? It's not got to the lakes, and temp is -290°F. There is zero life there
>>16468683> fat white bitch with a skinny black orbiting herperfect for Amerishart colonization
>>16468701You have a sick and rotted brain.
>>16468676Why can't I find a girlfriend
>>16468696>planet nineThere's a real chance one exists, maybe even more.>Oort cloudHard to say, There's circumstantial evidence supporting its existence but the distance is so extreme it's hard to say. Personally, I believe it exist but who knows.
These are the major worlds of Sol.Which one are you going to call home?What will your colony be called?For me it's>Titan>Horven
>>16468712I'm still thinking about what Elon should call the first Mars colony, Jamestown would be a great pick
>>16468717It will be X town
>>16468601There is literally no way a NASA moon base would have 10 people in it at once
>>16468656buy what?
>>16468720Oh God he might actually call it that
>be a model space shuttle>some guy buys me but calls me starship>oh, I guess he's retarded>his sister's dog's uncle's roommate's wife tells him I'm a shuttle not starship>he starts screaming, falls to the floor, starts rolling back and forth and finally shits his pants>fourth time today alone
>>16468717Terminus, he has said it multiple times
>>16468712>includes shithole tr*ton but not key lox depots evropa, enceladvs and ceres
>>16468717X City
>>16468739Xity
>>16468717Ultor.>>16468732I hate this gay name.
>>16468736Are you blind nigga?
>>16468717Neumunchen
>>16468717Zubrin City or Capitol Zubrin
>>16468750zubrin sabotaged the starship by insisting that it should be too small. zubrin is the judas of space, accidentally living up to his jew phenotype
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823829223267848479I don't really like the name, but it's fine. We'll get used to it and people will just start associating it with the cool things happening there and the best and brightest who live there.
>>16468750The waste disposal units on mars should be called Zubrins
>>16468753any latinfags can explain what Terminus means
>>16468583the american catch system exists.
>>16468752it was no accident. he was installed to slow down progress. what has the Mars Society achieved in 30 years? What has Zubrin achieved in 60?
>>16468615>>16468624mein neger, boca chica is already hallowed ground for spaceflight enthousiasts right now.many people make grand pilgrimages to get there and worship the giant rockets.if you look around the dunes there's all sorts of religious iconography surrounding starship.
>>16468654kill yourself faggot.
>>16468753I would call it Reeve
>>16468717is still stick with my name being the bestthe first mars city will be called Secunda Radix
>>16468757boundary, limit, endbut alsoThe god of boundaries and landmarks, focus of the important Roman festival of Terminalia.
>>16468340Someone vote. We need to clear three ties!
https://x.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1855315949320098268?t=zaqbf3mqvTnffC9eFJ7T5A&s=19
>>16468769Gay. May as well call the first Mars ship the Mayeflower. Naming things after other peoples or things names is stupid
>>16468753>>16468757>>16468771It's a Foundation reference you uncultured zoomers
call it New Chica
>>16468757It's the planet chosen to establish the foundation in Asimovs foundation series, it's called terminus because it's "the end of the galaxy"
>>16468533>Grid fins aren’t even level with each other.Sloppy chinese claws rattling with fear and awe slapped together this ad-hoc toy model.
>>16468779May as well call your dad the first male hooker to make me jizz.
>>16468732>>16468745I used to think that Terminus was a dumb name but then i realized that elon is the living embodiment of pic related and he keeps accomplishing everything he sets out to do, so it is best not to question his methods.
>>16468795THE FIRST CITY ON MARS SHOULD BE CALLED ULTOR NOT THIS GAY TERMINAL CANCER CRAP ELON IS A RETARD
>>16468502that dumb bitch I hope you smacked her
>>16468795Exactly. His world model is so much better than ours, we cannot comprehend how he gets from A to B, but he always does. Like an AI black box
>>16468717Starship flies to Space Town
>>16468800I just said>n-no it isn't haha>>16468785My vote
The city should be called cloud 9
>>16468820The plan to build it would be Plan 9.
>>16468820After the esports team, I see how Elon would like it
>>16468820District 9
>>16468753elon mustard pls, it was supposed to be called Mars Base Alpha
They should call the city New New York
Name it Mity. Get it? Mars City? I'm so clever.
I wanna name it Snoopy.
We really need to start putting numbers in the names of cities. For example we could call the city MS1.
>>16468583China is extremely strong
I have a name for lit-... Name for it... It's called the Hyperloop.>Hyperloop?Hyperloop.
>>16468826No that's what the Luna base is called
>>16468835already taken, try again
>>16468836based, just like Tokyo-3
New Washington
>>16468845New Jamestown.
ahemNew Amsterdam
>>16468847koolaid
>>16468852First US settlement. (koolaid was a bonus)
>>16468847New Jerusalem
Just use SpaceX naming conventions:Terminus block 3.2 Full Autonomy
>>16468863for workgroups
>>16468863are the cities going to be reusable?
>>16468863Fully Self Sustaining City (supervised)
>>16468863You should see their Starlink ground station filings with the FCC>Eye of Sauron>They See Me Rollin'>Ash Ketchumetc
New Vegas
TED CityTBD CityTFAAD CityTJD CityTND Cityand so forth
>>16468721They would. 10 black women cooking joloff rice and twerking. This is the peak of humanities achievements. Niggers twerking on the moon.
We need more black women in space
>>16468896>>16468897America is unrivaled in our ability to not just send people to the moon, a feat still unreplicated, but to send the least qualified among us.
>>16468900It's the first real space tourism. I guess they are the test apes they send on a suicide mission before sending the real people.
>In a talk from Kathy Lueders, Starbase General Manager, she announced that SpaceX wants to recover Starship sometime in the next 6 months and have 25 launches in 2025.Is this legal?
>>16468906>25 launches in 2025WE FUCKING GAAAN
>>16468906Plover walkout scheduled for 18 hours from now. SpaceX will bend the knee.
>>16468906Trump will pardon him
>>16468757>TerminusAlso has T minus in it
>>16468739>>16468743exville
I wonder what the first place of worship built on Mars will be. I think a mosque would be kinda cool.
>>16468438The virgin gantry catch The Chad deltoid Mechazilla hug
>>16468906Trump will make it legal.
>>16468918elon mosque
>>16468914Makes me think how insane launch and landing traffic would be during arrival/departure season. It would be like a busy port.
>>16468918Bannana bread generic chapel like some prisons and military bases have. Failing that, some form of non-denominational christian.
>>16468921Someone post the Crew 1 Boeing Isis beheading edit
>>16468918It'll be a cathedral hand carved from a lava tube, like the one's made in the old salt mines of eastern Europe.Mars is a catholic planet.
>>16468906Make it 47 launches
>>16468717New Johannesburg. Let's try this again. >>16468931>first>hand carved from a lava tubeIt's going to be a cargo starship spared from the scrapyard and filled with reconstructed pallet furniture
>>16468906>>16468907>>16468933The pace of vehicle construction and processing at starbase is not fast enough to do more launches than they are already doing.
>>16468938it would be the ultimate troll if he started naming stuff after south africa
>>16468939Starfactory is almost complete so it will definitely speed up.
>>16468868They'll destroy a few at the beginning to get the hang of it, the following ones will be reusable though
>>16468921Mashallah!
>>16468942South Africa has some great city names tbdesu that can be adapted for Mars>New Pretoria >New Durban>Rooifontein>Plenty of Port and Bay cities>And the obvious (name)bur
>>16468921elonesque
superheavy with no engie shielding looks like a guy with super recessed gums
Falcon Heavy from SLC-6(soon)https://x.com/dpoddolphinpro/status/1855394307055788205
>>16468964
>>16468966
How much will mars colony be elongated? See what I did there? Elongated lmao
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>16468974holy fuck lmao
>>16468974haha I get it that's a good one
>>16468974HO HO, what the fuck!? lol. That is such a funny thought. Thanks for making my day XD
>>16468974Elon needs to read this.
>>16468974top kek
>>16468974That's insane
>>16468974holy kek. how do they come up with this shit?
>>16468974there will Elongation in many directions.
Should starship be paused to swap over to 14 meter diameter?
>>1646901324. retarded incel
>>16469018starship won't be viable until at least 34 meter diameter
>>16468974Woah
>>16469021try 64. idiot.
until starship has the dimensions of a flying saucer it wont be viable.ayys know about height to width redpills.
>>16468918the Jesuits are going to infiltrate the Mars colony whether or not you let them operate openly
having the ship taller than it is wide is a great filter.
>>16469028>SpaceX doesn't store the fuel in a massless 4d hypercubePathetic
just launch starship horizontally, tards
>>164690251000km cubic
superheavy should be a helicopter
starship is an ornithopter
>>16468523>its much less weird than shit like farming in your backyardWho would even consider that remotely a weird hobby?
>>16468974Ok now that is actually pretty funny lol
I jacked off 6 times today. How will we be able to jack off on Mars with such tight quarters?
>>16469060Optimus+fleshlight
What if I fugged yer mum
>>16468088To answer your question, yes
>>16469071I knew it. It was a shot in the dark but I fucking knew it you scumsucking fuckwit
>>16468968wait are there only 3 gridfins going forward
>>16469073>https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1854901823498297594Its what some folks on twitter deduced
>>16468515>>16468542He also described what's wrong with design by committee. You'll have a bunch of people asking for disparate requirements that aren't compatible instead of letting the vehicle target a niche. But maybe if they try enough times they'll make the platypus of engineering that just works
>>16469044So 1 cubic megameter?
>>16469078Based N1 interstage lattice
>>16468717Let's just call it Iowa or something.
>>16469051I would argue this
So like. What the practical limit on rocket diameter? I don't see any reason you couldn't make one hundreds of metres wide.
>>16468757>he hasnt watched foundation yetyou're missing imperial space kino
>>16468848NeeLaten we eerst voor Nieuw 's-Hertogenbosch gaan
>>16468906IT IS NOW
>>16469120everyone said it was trash
>>16468939>The pace of vehicle construction and processing at starbase is not fast enough to do more launches than they are already doing.i think it was either kate or jessie that said production will soon explode once starfactory gets in it's groove
>>16469120it was dogshitread a fucking book, nigger
>>16469123I probably skipped through 60% of it but I enjoyed it that way
>>16469123its like two shows put together, one is trash, the other is cool
>>16469120Immediately rope
>>16469124It's going to be a while before they can really get production going. It's going to be like model 3 ramp up hell but with rockets instead. Can't have panels misaligned by retarded beaners on starship. Also they are going to run into storage issues, where the fuck they gonna put a thousand starships and boosters?????
>>16469131>where the fuck they gonna put a thousand starships and boosters?????
Good evening everyone. Thanks for working late. First thing tomorrow morning I want emails detailing everything you accomplished this week.Oh I forgot tomorrow is Sunday. Thanks for working on Sunday.
>>16469131its true, where will the stuff get stored? they brought this up on nsf yesterday. even they didnt know.
It's interesting how V3 Starships are basically Super Heavy boosters with flaps and the upper half of what would be the methane tank is instead the payload/crew section. This centralizes a lot of design elements into a single process and cuts down on a lot of otherwise differentiated steps. Pretty neat.
>>16469133All government employees will no longer be allowed remote work privileges. Please report to the office from 8am to 6pm, Mon-Fri, thank you
>>16469124Both of those temptress hookers can throat my cock as far as I'm concerned. But interesting.
>>16469133All I've done today is masturbate to Krystal porn in my office
>>16469142PLEASEGood lord the screeching would pierce the heavens.
>>16469140with a ship that long it makes me wonder why the booster itself doesn't return using the exact same flaps the ship uses. Booster clearly fucks it's engines up re-entering so fast, and if it was bellyflopping it would have a much more gentle return with a lower terminal velocity too.
>>16469134Portions of Mexico will be annexed. The fuck Juan gonna do?
>>16469133
>>16469149 How close to a starship launch could I survive watching it without permanent hearing damage if I were to hypothetically set up a camouflaged mylar blanket hide near the launch mount.
>>16469148Because those flaps are heavy as fuck. The amount of mass you sacrifice with them is unjustifiable. We're talking like 20-30T of payload capacity to orbit lost.>>16469148Only Raptor2s. I would expect that by the time SuperHeavy V2s are flying, R3s will be in mass production and integrated with the booster and ship and R4s will be in design. While Raptor with FFSC is like 98% efficient, I expect that SpaceX desires to achieve the optimization curve of Merlin where they went from TWR of 1.0 with Block 1 to 2.25 by Block 5. R3s and onwards integrate cooling and heat shield into the engine design, so all the extra structure that creates points of failure goes away. Also, if V2 and V3 Starships will get 6 engines for RVacs instead of the standard 3, I would expect the booster to stage even lower in the atmosphere, further reducing potential factors that lead to engine loss.
Elon's sacrificed his first born baby NEVADA ALEXIt did not die of SIDS it was an offering to evil for wealth/powerSIDS was the coverThere is a satanic entity that wants to come to earth
>>16469154>not your personal army
>>16469133hehe. No tax on overtime!
https://youtu.be/IICGZ7YOafs
>>16469157>Dear employees, after the latest round of cuts we have reduced the amount of staff to an acceptable level. You are to be reminded that working for the government is a privilege and such you are all on half pay, overtime will be billed as standard hours with a bi-monthly office pizza get together as a thank you for your hard work. Regards, Elon
>>16469145kys hawaiian scum
>>16469145Carry on, sir.
>>16469120>watchedyou have to go back
>>16469169this fucking sucks
How many of you know what Im talking about when I say the reddit movie
I am currently taking part in NNN, and I will be unable to edge and cum to IFT-6. Can someone take over for this launch
>>16469196ur gonna need to be WAY more specific my dude
>>16469196I'm assuming you are referring to The Martian?
>>16469208Correct
with elon now whispering into the presidents ear, every company should be trying to get in with spacex in every way possible
I can't wait for Vulcan to shit the bed while carrying some NRO spook-sat
/sfg/s thoughts? I think its a good thing, this would get a massive amount of normie eyes on the space industry that would never have looked there in the first place, makes it cool to go. Could start a real wave of space tourism.
>>16469222if he was serious he wouldnt need to drop a tweet about it, he would just have his people arrange things with spacex, axiom, or vast
>>16469221This would actually be the best possible outcome, for many reasons
>>16469224You forget that he’s the most normie guy there is he doesnt know these people man, and neither do his people. If he can use his pull to get in contact with the guy directly he will, which is what hes trying here. Youre also dodging the original question
Anyone ever mark a floor 9 meters to get a feel of how big starship is?The fan CGI mockups don't do it justice, after I did it, I can say furnishing starship for only 4 people looks completely retarded. Even orion max crew is 6. Because HLS is reusable, and I presume it would take many many missions to deplete its fuel, they need to design it for when we can bus more astronauts to it in the future.
>>16469227then he should fire his team and get new people who arent clueless. as for the question, yeah i think its a good thing and have said before that we should push for more artists and entertainers in space.
>>16468421Do plantlets really? Surely it would be more efficient to take advantage of the larger power afforded by that part of the spectrum.Given that stars have all different kinds of spectra, would photosynthesis result in plants in different colors? Imagine what they would look like if they absorbed UV or something. If we can't have green stars, why do we have green plants?
>>16469230HLS is basically a landable Gateway
>>16468906Thats crazy
>>16469230one level of starship is the same floorspace/square footage as any apartment I could afford in Sydney. With 4-5 levels that's like a small apartment complex PER SHIP
>>16469233As said before, the center of the black body spectrum has the most variation, which leads to the most damage. It's hypothesized that plants on bigger planets would indeed follow the same rules, because terrestrial plants follow the spectral shift from being under water.
>>16469230>I can say furnishing starship for only 4 people looks completely retardedAh, I see you forgot to add the mini bar, hot tub, sauna, luxury showers, massage parlour staffed by thirsty asians and a smoking lounge.
>>16468906>25 launches in 2025My God, and here I thought I was being too optimistic to hope for a flight per month.
>>16469153amenjust fireall bureaucratsand women
>>16469156That's fine because I am going to be leaving Earth. Pretty sure there are plenty of satanic entities here already.
So what's the ticket price going to be?
>>16469257Specify what you mean
>>16468906thats a flight in 2 weeks after a flight
>>16469277ALLYEARLONG!
>>16469222>ishowspeed first streamer to go on starship>retarded nigger opens the airlock without a suitI seriously hope no ever pays attention to these dumb niggers
https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1855324253295403182
>>16469286https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855346863668707541
>>16469288https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855473342494699921
https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/1855280997606023547
>>164692907 minute timelag one way is a real bitch.
>>16469286>>16469290>tfw no ansible to clear up all this bullshit
>>16469290>No way to solve speed of light latencyShotwell disagrees.
>>16469277>>16469281When do yall think the second tower will be operational at Starbase? I doubt that'd be the bottleneck for two flights a month but it couldn't hurt
>>16469277you forget that its a ramping cadence. it will still be a longer time inbetween in the first half but later into the year it will be much shorter. could get down to a starship every week depending on how fast it ramps.
>>16469242>Your custom built Starship is ready for pickup, sir.
>>16468968>>16469078How do we feel about it?
>>16469306They'd need a new high bay just for refurb and checkouts (could double as payload integration) plus a new team before they get there
>>16469309I desperately want it to be 12 meters wide so the tankage section is half as tall for a given volume.
how many ships did they expect to launch this year again? i know the environment will be much different next year but still
>>16469305I think they'll pause flights after flight 6 and go all in on getting Tower 2 operational. The limiting factor in being able to launch from both towers is the fuel farm, and the fact that launching Starship 10x a year basically drains the entire Continental US of its liquid oxygen supply. So in addition to the second fuel farm, they need permitting to be able to build potentially a large oxygen condensor/producer at the build site or somewhere in the greater Austin area which can produce kilotons of liquid oxygen on an annual basis to support Starship launches. But earliest I could foresee them making tower 2 operational is mid to late January 2025.
>>16469286hasnt nasa done research on interplanetary internet? i believe that there was a working group for it.
>>16469309Truthful has a bizarre and autistic fixation on blunt nosed Starships and can't even quantify what the advantages/disadvantages are.
>>16469320I don't care what the twitteroid troon thinks but they'll have to either blunt later ship iterations or extend them farther if only for starlinks to pack more neatly. There's a lot less room on S33 after they extended the tanks into the space the payload bay used to be.
>>16469320shut the fuck up about this tranny nobody cares
>>16469318You got me thinking about how much LOX the US produces annually, and judging from a 2022 EPA report we run net 0 when production/consumption/import/export are taken into account. Even in the unrealistic scenario we said screw everyone else and stopped exporting that'd only get us 724,000,000 kg excess, enough for ~195 Starship flights. So I think you're right about SpaceX building more LOX production facilities
If Elon asked you to donate your braps to SpaceX for methane production would you do it?
>>16469337>>16469326Don't post shit you got from his twitter if you don't want it mentioned.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855369837398340081
>>16469338Considering that SpaceX says they need around 6 tanker flights to put 100T + 25-50 humans on the Moon per HLS launch, that means you're talking 7 flights in total to LEO. That gives you 27 groups collated into a Block 1 Moon colonization effort. Which summarizes into: 2,785 metric tons of mass to the surface of the Moon and let's say average of 30 people per flight for a total of 810 people in kind. That's massive for humanity given that we have a net total of 0 between now and probably the next 4 years, but for true colonization scale efforts where you need 10,000 people on the Moon and 100,000 or more people on Mars, 724 million kilograms of liquid oxygen is insufficient to support this initiative. SpaceX would have to invest, along with government support, into building facilities wherein the corporation would have to by itself produce 1.45 billion kilograms of liquid oxygen. We're talking basically Giga Austin or Giga Shanghai facilities but all they do is mass produce liquid oxygen, probably dozens of them spread across continental United States. The scale of the operation necessary to support Moon/Mars colonization is truly sobering.1.45Bn kg of liquid oxygen annually would get you to 54 groups collated into a Block 1 or 2 blocks of 27. Which condenses into 5.6kT of mass to the Moon or Mars annually and 1,620 people on average. Do that YoY say 2030 onwards and you get 16,200 people between Moon and Mars achieved. Let's say half and half between the two: 8100 people on both worlds. To avoid genetic limitation in population, you need an ideal minimum of 10,000 people, and ideal median of 100,000 people. 1M people (the holy goal of Elon's), ensures enough genetic variability that genetic mutations due to eventual homogenization becomes impossible.So if Starship starts pushing mass and people to Moon and Mars at scale say 2032 onwards, then by 2052, you could see 10-15k on Moon and Mars successfully.
>>16469345I was the one who posted it, I was focusing on the Block 2 Superheavy that the renders showed having 3 gridfins and an N1 style staging ring
>>16469346That would violate due process, violate his human rights, and also potentially constitutes a war crime. Wow, truly. The party's fucked and lost its god damn mind. Time to go independent.
>>16469347just build the facilities near launch sites and pipe that shit inpiping in LNG which gets purified into propellant grade methane near there too I think SpaceX was trying to build a power plant and pipe in LNG and build a air separation unit or something in starbase but the enviromental regulation shit got in the way (either blocked all together or would have slowed things down unacceptably, so they abandoned those ideas)ESG hound was whining about the power plant a lot for instance, those things getting cut might have been his doing if in fact the bureucrats in different agencies were reading his blog etc
>>16469353>but the enviromental regulation shit got in the wayTo be absolutely fair. I'm 100% in support of SpaceX and everything they do. But I would 100% shut down any attempts by SpaceX to build an LNG facility in the middle of a national wildlife refuge. A rocket launch facility and fuel storage farm? Sure. But a fuel production farm? Fuck no.And beyond the environmental concern, you can't put a fuel production facility next to an ITAR sensitive facility which is next to a public beach that has its roads opened and closed on a daily basis. It makes the regulatory and launch problem INFINITELY HARDER. Maybe build it in Blastrop or somewhere 30-40m from Starbase, but not at Starbase. ESGH is a retard, but in this one particular case, he was on the right side of history.
>>16469346why doesnt elon ban him for threatening violence? im tired social media filled with people who are allowed to openly make death threats and calls for violence.
>>16469347The math checks out, but is long term moon habitation something Elon is pushing for? I doubt it'd good on your body being at 0.166g for years at a time, not to mention trying to rear children there
>>16469360he wasn't
the "wildlife sanctuary" around boca chica should be abolished, its a joke
total plover death
>>16469375What if instead we throw you under Starship when it launches since you love it so much?
>>16469375That whole area will probably get designated some kind of special-use zone in the name of national security where Spacex has more or less free reign
>>16469366Elon would prefer to skip the Moon altogether, but the Moon is a strategic asset. It has exatons of Helium 3 in its regolith, which will come handy once the fusion equation is solved. It has exatons of water ice trapped in its craters, which is mission critical for any long term habitation in space in general. It's infinitely easier, ironically, and cheaper, ironically, to mine, refine, and launch payload from the Moon back to Earth orbit (once the cycle gets going) of ships filled with water than it is to launch a ship filled completely with water up from the Earth to low earth orbit to the kiloton degree necessary to support vast orbital farms in order to produce food and medicine to support nations. Next, there's the fact that the Moon was formed from the Earth, so many of the common and rare earth metals that are in supply on the planet would also be found there; making production of certain facilities at scale mission critical in offloading dirty industries from Earth's surface to there, and then simply importing the products on the cheap instead.Factor in fusion fuel + water + metals/rare-earths, and you can basically build a massive shipyard for intra-solar excursions for all activities towards Venus/Mercury as well as activities to the belt, Jupiter, and beyond. In concert with Mars (of course). Finally, there's Earth observation and radio/infrared, and visible light observation of the greater universe from the dark side in search of Earth-like worlds as well as purported "alien signals". The 1.5 day proximity of travel makes it incredibly USEFUL to drive all those things.And there's the matter of prestige. US will not tolerate China/Russia taking over the Moon in favor of all in on Mars. You'd be giving the enemy incredible strike reach that's pure stealth on its ingress to anywhere across the US. No way fag.Finally, there's the matter of Earth>>16469371That's, like, your opinion, man.
Would someone please think of the beetles
https://x.com/Scearpo/status/1855449701660963248
>>16469380
>>16469377>noo, not the tiny salt marshits a joke man
imagine one central lunar starship surrounded by 6 tankers
>>16469384big black rocket gangbang on the poor little white rocket?
the wildlife shittery needs to end before the end of Trump admin or the lawfare will continue
>>16469385Its Big Black Cohete, chud. You should know to use the locals dialect when it comes to south Texas.
>>16469381Whoever this is, should lay off the drugs.
it's over for sfg
>>16469389its a joke you sperg
>>16469391Earther bitch thinks any Martians would want her kek
Round 3 is now open for voting!https://commoninja.site/sfgI'm a little salty Triton lost...
>>16469394Cease
>>16469379I understand your reasoning, and I do think Lunar infrastructure will be kino. I just wonder how manning will work, maybe you do a 2-4 year stint up there before returning to Earth or heading to Mars
>>16469392Oh retard translator? Thank god you're here. I didn't know what to do!
>>16469391She doesn't understand the vision, she only sees the New Shepard side of spaceflight
>>16469403yes I can translate to retards (you) what normal people speak aboutdo you have some other posts you are confused about?
>>16469401Long term colonization of the Moon will require genetic engineering and/or biomechanical augmentation. Absent that, everybody will basically have to deadlift 315s daily to not have their bones term into jello after a year.
>>16469405Sure do. Please explain this:
>>16469406For as much as people shit on Earthers here some of the spacefolk will be absolute freaks, especially the Belters
>>16469409giants will be real soon
>>16469408https://x.com/512x512/status/1854732820414861689
https://x.com/deltaIV9250/status/1855482977691619818>there is a potential scenario where we can delete the forward flaps entirely
>>16469413fuck off stop advertising yourself retard
>>16469413Starship is a spaceplane, duh
>>16469414noyou are free to cry about it
>>16469406Centrifugal habitats. Or, possibly, lunar gravity just isn't that bad for you. Even just a little bit of gravity might be enough to signal the body "don't get rid of the bones, you need those," instead of it being a linear progression from jello to normal skeleton as you go from 0g to 1g. These are the questions we should have answered with variable-g spin stations literal decades ago.
So far, the weather for the 18th is looking ok. Partly cloudy. 20% precipitation.Hope it doesn't get worse.
>>16468795I slowly realizing this
>>16469419retard
>>16469416youre not even the same anon the file name formats make it obvious.
>muh spin stations>muh lava tubes>muh caves>muh life>muh balloon colony>muh ocean>muh asteroid miningno.
>>16469426Might as well not go to space thenAre you Olivia Rodrigo >>16469391?
>>16469424the file with the starship was from X, the file with the frog was from 4chan
it looks like 2026 is going to be a heck of a year what with Trump in office and hopefully up to speed and Starship possibly making frequent launches by then, plus with that July 4th being the big 250 (anybody here remember the 1976 bicentennial celebrations?) it's sure to be a year full of major happenings, down here and up in space. I can't wait.
>>16469434I can tell your deepthroating a massive cock right now.
We don't need to see every retarded tweet (whether pro or anti-Elon) ever
>>16469441I do
Reminder 8 DAYS. ANOTHER STARSHIP
>>16469452Deep. Throating. Cocks.
>sir another starship has hit the tower
Anyone got the kathy leuders speaking audio?
>>16469456We’re all asleep rn ask again in like 7 hours yes Im posting from the future
>>16468724god I love these imagesKing autist won
>>16469453this but starship
>>16469242
>>16469379>Helium 3the midwit's oilfield, it won't be good fuel for fusion for decades after we get fusion working, if ever, and we can make plenty of it on urf
>>16469437>>16469453hey give him a break, it worked for Kamala
>>16469474How did the “lunar Helium-3” meme even take off in the first place? It’s a pretty common association, especially by those who know more than the average person but still not enough specifics about space (i.e. i’m sure people such as destin from smartereveryday would tell you they heard people say the future economy of space is helium 3 mining on the moon)
Does anyone have model rockets they launch? I didn't realise it was so cheap.
S31 will be the first named Starship. It will be called "Banana For Scale".
>>16469379>Helium 3Meme fuel for a technology that we haven't even gotten close to getting working.The moon will become a major mining site, shipyard and LOX depot. There will be a high human presence but it will not be permanent, like an oil platform.
>>16469488>>16469379Nevermind, I'm a midwit
>>16469292I will never forgive the government for what they made SpaceX do to those poor seals.
>>16469485>>16469488Fusion power itself is a massive midwit trap. It will never be as economically efficient as fission. The viability of fusion (presuming it can even be made efficient enough to even be in the running!) hinges on the presumption that environmentalists will embrace fusion and not try to obstruct it at every step like they do fission. But this is based on a fundemental misunderstanding of what motivates western anti-nuclear environmentalists. Large power plants that produce huge amounts of power and require large capital investments will ALWAYS piss off these people, no matter how ostensibly green they are, because such power plants solidify the social status quo rather than throwing a wrench in it. They want to deconstruct and dismantle western industrial society, not find ways to make western industrial society even more clean and efficient. That's the last thing they want, so if fusion power ever became a technically viable competitor to fission they would oppose it even more than they oppose fission.
>>16468868I don't understand this "reusable cities" meme
>>16469277that's the average yes, but it'll start out at 4 weeks apart, hit 2 weeks apart by july, then weekly in December
>>16469495>They want to deconstruct and dismantle western industrial society, not find ways to make western industrial society even more clean and efficientFor what reason?
>>16469504Western society is heckin racist sexist imperial colonialist blah blah blah. All the usual buzzwords.
it's over for spaceXhttps://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1855579485459886275
>>16469512>building a tower with a thing that goes up and down, without having the rocket that is meant to go with it nor any of the institutional experience to build any sort of rocket in the first placeTruly, china leads the world in the field of scamming investors.
>>16469512God I love this scam company
>>16469487okay, this is epic.
>>16469518>catch abort>booster crashes into a commie block
>>16469196I knew immediately
spacex is controlled opposition to keep us from having aerospikes.
>>16469527china has a lot of experience catching boosters with villages
>>16469504
>>16469487first tanker starship should be called shelby
>>16469487first 64m diameter ship should be called zubrin
Am I exaggerating, or is it like a 5th day in a row of good news?
>>16469555shut the fuck up
>>16469391you posted this shit last week, now fuck off
Total Seal Retribution
https://x.com/BanhmiBrieoche/status/1855569198065303995lel Chinese clone tower
>>16468717Roanoke
>>16469561Didn't this guy get fired and is currently under investigation? Why would they fire him if it was sanctioned from the top down?I'll just preempt your some of your cope right now>It's only because they got caught!>They need a scapegoat!>They are now scared cause trump won!Please go to /pol/ and stop turning /sfg/ into /pol/-lite
>>16469555No, I think you're onto something there. Your triple 5s agree.
>>16469555>5 days of good news>555555 years of SpaceX confirmed
>>16469099Elonowa
>>16469145imagine getting paid to do that. living the dream.
>>16469145fuck off Noa
>>16469474>>16469488I thought helium 3 was valuable for MRIs>Good news son your scans were all clear. That'll be 3000 dollars
>>16469409
>>16468421>>16469233Plants use plenty of green light.The reflected green light does mean it's less photosynthetically efficient than blue or red light, but it is useful.In the case of extreme light intensity green light becomes more useful as it penetrates further into leaves. Blue and red light only penetrate the top layers of leaf tissue and its possible for that chlorophyll to get saturated with light.When measuring radiation in the field, like in a greenhouse or indoors, most meters treat all photons as equal.Light beyond visable(700nm+) is getting researched and it's being found plants utilize them in various ways. (Like the Emerson effect)Plants aren't stupid to not utilize the light given to them. They evolved under the Sun with all the wavelengths of light it gives.
>>16469569Why would he give this order unless he thought his superiors wouldn't fire him?And yes, it's because he got caught. If he didn't get caught he obviously wouldn't be fired because he had his job up until the moment the press found out. You're coping.
>>16469599The FEMA employee was also a person with some in-organization authority: they were a supervisor at some level of on-field disaster relief.
>>16469561Judging from the FWS emails it suggest just the sheer incompetence than it being politically motivated
>>16469603>sheer incompetenceI order you to skip houses with trump signs...by mistake
>Shoot at FEMA workers>"Hey guys watch out for those houses, they typically have the people who chimp out">STOP NOTICING PATTERNSspaceflight?
>>16469593All you have to do is put some of your lithium meds into a reactor and it will produce 3He.
>>16469611if i give this to my wife will she grow cat ears/tail and start scratching my back during sex?
>>16469394There's no point voting when you completely fucked up the seeding retard. Why are random Uranian moons getting byes through two rounds?
>>16469605It doesn't apply to FEMA but it does apply to the FAA and FWS, which are actually relevant to spaceflight.
>>16469605>I order you to torture seals with noise.>I order you to make triple sure that water is clean.>I order you to wait three months between flights.>I order you to re-do this paperwork. No not like that. No not like that either, keep trying.Imagine a world where a federal agency WASN'T going out of its way to hamper SpaceX's development of Starship.
>>16469394Do Titanfags really?
>>16469504to present themselves and expanding bureaucracy + regulation as the solution to every single problem.It's a positive feedback loop where they cause problems and then promise to solve them for you. The only people who win are civil servants.
>>16469346Who the fuck is dave troy?
will elon fire half of goverment? #420
This is what ESA has been getting up to.Hopeless.
>>16469661Those are just kids. Let them have some fun.
>>16469663They are diversity hires who do no good.Or is it just a coincidence that we are stuck in the dark ages of space flight?
>>16469665Women with blue hair are well known to be the leading group in space exploration.
>>16469559>footage of a seal disoriented by sonic boom of super heavy and splash of the hot staging ring
>>16469666Fuck you. You are disgusting. I hate you.
>>16469668What shade of blue is your hair? Is it always greasy and 4 cm of root is the original colour?
Women with blue hair are valid in the space exploration industry
Starlink reentry over Oklahoma. Some farmer is gonna be pissed.https://x.com/Dillonshrop06/status/1855474926020399351
>>16469391Never heard of her, why's her opinion worth posting?
>>16469677It isn't. It's bait.
>>16469670blue *fur*
>>16469685kill yourself
>>16469685The only correct opinion so far.
>>16469673shouldn't it burn up
>>16469689>>16469578>another haterBased
>>16469695are you retarded or just pretending to be retarded?
earth glassing status?
>>16469666
>>16469704Two more decades
>>16469133If someone dislikes working for Elon couldn't they work somewhere else? The employees that SpaceX hires are not working for SpaceX because they're desperate and unemployable elsewhere.Not only that, but they certainly would have been told what to expect when they were hired. If they decide they don't like it, they can go work somewhere else for more money.I fail to see a single thing wrong with this.
>>16469154I assume that being less than one full stack away from the engines during launch is survivable by humans since otherwise it would genocide the passengers in future launches.
>>16469716A lot of them do
>>16469222Of course they should never be allowed in space. Look at how much they've done to ruin earth.People like you should of course stay on earth as well.
>>16469338Elon already said he was going to build air liquefaction plants and even solar powered methane production infrastructure. The LOX is a solved problem. If he gets anywhere near his goals with methane production they could still run off the grid when base load is higher than demand.
>>16469729That should be when demand is below average (night)
how big of a bottleneck will be transporting fuel to the launch site? We already see trucks driving there non stop sometimes, what happens when they actually want to do the rapid reuse thing?
>>16469487The next one should be called "The Redditor"s Delight"
>>16469379Starship will be so cheap to fly from Earth that lunar resources will be more expensive to get to space than Earth resources. Lunar ISRU was oldspace cope for how they can possibly do anything up there using outdated geosat launchers
>>16469360>I'm 100% in support of SpaceX and everything they do. But I would 100% shut down any attempts by SpaceX to build an LNG facility>I totally support SpaceX 100% of the time except when I don'tDo you ever think about what you're writing? You are identical to every other obstructionist who thinks their special case or their argument is different. In a just world you'd all be treated the same.
>>16469512it's a 3D render>>16469517it's as if they have 1000 Arca copies
>>16469527its almost inevitable
>>16469409As long as off world colonies allow for freedom of association it's not a problem
>>16469735A Boring Company loop with autonomous Tesla Semi's will fix that.
>>16469753Sounds like using pipes would be easier
>>16469504They hate people who are capable of making the world better because they and their pets are not. So they would prefer to live in a world where no good people exist and everyone is equally garbage.
>>16469735the trucks will become a bottleneck and then they will have to either expand the road more (which is planned already by the city) or build pipelines from the port of bronsville
>>16469774they should build a port so they can have LNG supertankers pull right up next to the launch pads
>>16469187have you tried reading Foundation? I did, and it isn't worth it. It was a favorite book when I was a teenager, but now I see it as a product of its time: a trashy potboiler. (Not to mention that the whole "psycho-history" premise is completely blown away by chaos theory.)
the gorillion trucks meme wouldn't be a problem if we just had the ayylmao technology that congress won't reveal
>>16469277Based Musk giving us the ability to say >2 more weeks on a continuous basishttps://x.com/spacesudoer/status/1855568792719638939
We are slowly converging on 2017 BFR
>>16469797He might want to but the reality is different
>>16469800If only it was ITS
>Elon builds a syngas plant that triples US methane usage just to launch rockets
>>16469807kind of looks like its peaking behind a door
>>16469807Cadence is getting too fast. We will run out of ships soon
It could be economically practical compared to trucking tons of fuel every launch. Unless they get a pipeline
>>16469809elon "order of magnitude" musk disrupts the methane and liquid oxygen industry, of course
>>16469809this is a meme but it illustrates what's wrong with the "why do space, we have problems here on earth" crowd. the easy problems rarely get big solutions because people don't mind the status quo that much. it's when you try to do something really hard that you make all the easy problems trivial.
>>16469673>DillonWhat is the source of that image?
>>16469512>>16469741It's not a 3d render, the reason it looks 'off' is because it is tiny.
>>16469813not if they are reused
>>16469831reuse a rocket? preposterous. it'll never be viable, you'd have to fly each one 10 times before you break even.
>>16469835100 times actually incel chud.
hey delta you scum fuck stop blatantly using meme arrows in your x posts
>>16469840wrong image
>>16469831Pretty sure Dr Phil Mason debunked this
>>16469835hilarious how tory bruno and his team of snakes at ULA got away with that lie. no one ever bothered to deboonk them of course, because no one even knows what an ULA is.
>>16469829got any pics that aren't from a 2003 digital camera?
>>16469844It's hilarious that SpaceX re-uses their rockets more than entire families fly
>>16469437shoo joo
>>16469670*purple hair
>>16469735The fuel will be produced on site when production launch cadence is achieved, so it won't be an issue
>>16469735bipeline :DDDD
>>16469809yes
>>16469860>delta IV heavy: 16 launches>B1067 booster: 22 launcheslol
>>16469740I am not. Building an LNG facility in a national refuge is more toxic than a launch facility.
Should we be worried that one of the Boeing astronauts is starving to death?
>>16469307fire hazard
>>16469883oh no! she can't dye her hair in space!
>>16469883Space makes you sick, and some people it never goes away. Also it makes you look different. Non-story
>>16469883>Deterioration >Doesn't have access to hair dyeKek
so electric propulsion adds a shitload of delta v requirements on any given mission?
>>16469883She looks better (less like a witch) in the right-most image.
>>16469886this and lighting. fake news.
>>16469894Being more puffy, usually a bit fat, makes you look a bit les solder since the creases fill out.
>>16469892>Add DeltaV requirementWhat? I mean I happen to be an expert retard on the subject but electric propulsion has some nice Isp, the problem is that the thrust is so low that it takes months for even a puny satellite to get to geosynchronous orbit, a spaceship simply can't use such propulsion for anything realistic since there is simply now window for maneuver big enough for these engines. Unless we manage to put something retardedly powerful on a spaceship, like a terwatt reactor but then it would weight so much that it would nullify the point too.
How do you think we can establish a mars colony any time soon when we can't even terraform our own planet, or live in Antarctica independently without outside supplies. You don't go there to live, you go there and die. Take care of Earth
>>16469897> the creases fill out.Thank you, that's what chubby means.
>>16469892propulsion system doesnt change dV. its a constant for the different planets and moons and wont change ever. dont know what this pic is on about
>>16469900Go try to setup your own colony and government on the ice sheet.You've got one little chunk that will be immediately embargoed the second you try to do any cool shit.
>>16469900>How do you think we can establish a mars colonyCyclers and not being a bitch about "solving Earths problems first" people left their kingdoms to explore to solve domestic problems, not the other way around>Can't terraform our own planetYes we can, but no one dares>Live in Antarctica independentlyPeople lived in Greenland for generations, and living in antarctica without help is a matter of interest, which there are, but no one wants to open that can of worms yet.
>>16469883lmao
>>16469905this is a cope. you could totally do it, who do you think is watching that area, your base could be there for years before anyone notices.
>>16469900>we can't even terraform our own planet>global warming is realthese statements are contradictory bee tea dubs
>mail onlineYou should get perma banned for posting this shite. Absolute slop. I get my news from twitter and 4chan instead.
>>16469905the claims arent enforced. plus there is a large unclaimed segment.
Any bongs in? How are you coping with almost a month of thick cloud? I saw a star for the first time in 3 weeks tonight. Real shame considering the moon was low this past month too. Stargazing may be more miserable than space exploration enthusiasm.
>>16469914that sounds like astronoomer talk to me
>>16469908>>16469913People talk, there are satellites. You think we're not on guard for Chinks stealing some of that land? Bam, now your camping group/huts/fledgling city is uncovered.Then, because you can't use nukes to melt your way through the permafrost, there are zero resources other than penguins. That means no path to sustained population growth and political independence.
SpaceX might be able to catch the ship before SLS 2 is launchedlmaoo
>>16469900>>16469905The real reason we cant colonize Antarctica is because it would be terrible for the global albedo
>>16469923but what about the global alfredo? think of all the spaghetti we could sell to an antarctic colony?
>>16469923we'll just make up for green antarctica by releasing a few starships full of glitter into LEO
New QI thruster pack photo just dropped. Mansell confirms that it's an aether sail, an open system rather than reactionless.
>24 starlinks>20 starlinks>23 starlinksHow many glowie satellites do they launch each time?
>>16469936time for the woodscrew outgassing drive
>>16469937every starlink launch so far has secretly had at least 1 brilliant pebbles satellite riding along.t. knower
Ok but what if we ditched all current and future rockets and retvrned
>>16469936>Mansellwho?
>>16469951Richard Mansell, CEO of IVO, the company building them.
>>16468918Mormon templeThey will feel right at home - half of Utah looks like Mars and the other half is basically terraformed desert
>>16469949boomer mentality
>>16469880>You are identical to every other obstructionist who thinks their case is special.>No, I'm different. My case is special.amazing
>>16469936they say the hardest part of building a perpetuum mobile is figuring out where to hide the batterieswith QI, the hardest part will be figuring out where to install the tape dispenser
>>16469900This bullshit is just trolling. We see these same fucking objections every thread.
>>16469801The FAA will kneel or the FAA will be dissolved.In acid.
>>16468918it will be a beautiful ornate dome with a single tree in the middle, the first tree planted on mars.
/SFG/ MEETUP AT THE SPADRE DENNY'SNOVEMBER 18 @3AM
>>16469967i'm bringing my pipe-bomb
>>16468966this is amazing
>>16469883she looks normal to me
i am doing a presentation about spacex, reusable rockets and general introduction into rocket science. in my comunity ceneter, or whatever you call that in english.wish me luck
>>16468353looks like a white boy summer out there
>>16469978how are you going to make it digestible for normalfags
Ok I just saw that the chopsticks can move up and down the tower.So it catches the booster, sets it down on the pad, raises up and catches the upper stage, and sets it down on top of the booster. Is that right?
>>16469968I can turn that into a bong.
>>16469984that's the plan
>>16469988
>>16469967Don't eat the brownies :-(
>>16469990>>16469988>>16469984Imagine it with the cadence of an international airport, with flights departing every few minutes on a near-constant basis, 24/7. Unlimited Starships.
>>16469991They were stinky but delectable
>>16469900>we can't even terraform our own planet>can't The very second global warming has an undeniable impact (and we're getting close with this year's bizarro storms), the government will launch several hundred tons of sulfur dioxide into the upper atmosphere.
You do understand that Cape will never get the permits to launch starships daily due to noise complaints?
>>16470002We don't need the cape
>>16470005cope nigger.
>>16469993>he doesn't know about the /k/ meetup brownies
New space station idea: Just build 6-way docking hubs for Starships
>>16470006Wtf do you think Elon did all this for? Now there will be nothing to block the lox plant, syngas plant, and a dozen towers in South Texas.
>>16470012what would such a configuration be called i wonder?
>>16470012A simple hub-and-four-spoke model ought to work.
>>16470008Yeah I'm not a russian bot
>>16470040ayo chill bruh we coolin
>>16470024elon is a moron.
>https://newsroom.arianespace.com/ariane-6-first-commercial-flight-scheduled-for-early-2025How is this even alive? At this point Arianne and the ESA in general should stop everything they are doing and scramble to put reusable rockets on that pad if they want to stay in bussiness.
>>16470008Too bad it turned out not to be real cum.
>>16470012>>16470025Stargate.
>>16469319Yeah I remember Vint Cerf giving Ted talks about working on interplanetary Internet with Nasa over a decade ago
>>16470045its half the cost of the old Ariane 5, its competitive with falcon heavywho needs reusability?
>>16470053StarbaseX? BaseX? StationsX?
>>16470045>8-10 months between flightsThis is why I'm so excited about SpaceX so much but people don't get it.
>With sufficiently accurate position, navigation and timing (PNT) data from GPS satellites, Starlink satellites could perform fully 3D synthetic aperture radar (SAR) of the Earth’s surface, with enough bandwidth to downlink this treasure trove of data.That's insane
>>16470058>who needs reusability?>>16470062
>>16470063SAAAAR
>>16470063What? I knew starlink could be used for PNT, but SAR? What the fuck?
NASA Administrator Greg Autry
https://x.com/clearusui/status/1855590483101442429>Trump wins>Clear is GFE postingBros we won
>>16470077What are my chances of marrying and breeding her?
any predictions for the next orbital flight?>>16470040>everything I don't like is Russian/sfg/ is even dumber than usual today
Where is your god now?
>>16470080>can I reproduce with a cartoon voiced by a Japanese man?It's impossible for several reasons.
>>16470099our cgi is so powerful - t. chinks probably
>>16470098my ancestor :)
>>16470099Implessive, now show it catching a rocket, or you think only the west is vulnerable to companies overpromising?
>>16469909They aren't. It takes all of human activity combined to increase the Earth's temperature by only a few degrees per century. It's meaningful here, but Mars with its thin atmosphere just won't really care.
>>16469903If your propulsion system limits the maneuvers you can perform it effects the dV required to reach specific orbits as you cannot necessarily take the most efficient maneuver to get you there
>>16470103Is Alpaca completely dead or are they continuing without NASA funding?
>>16470110definitely dead.>>16470098So why wasnt this ever done?
>>16469978What country?
>>16470118>So why wasnt this ever done?No buck$, no Buck Rogers
SpaceX will achieve 1 Starship launch per week by the end of next year
>>16470080>>16470101trvth
>>16470063>>16470066I've always had a head canon that SpaceX's precision landings are in part because of starlink being used as a form of high precision GPS
>>16470099>misses the catch>rocket explosion>all nearby corncrete buildings are flattenedok chang
>>16470110negative mass margins, anon
>>16470143>Launching in densely populated areasAre they fucking retarded? They have the Gobi desert or some shit, why not launch there?
>>16470145fat ass bitch
>>16470145i would fuck that little girl silly
>>16470099It's literally in the shade of the building next to it, the crane towers over it and you can see the ladder.This 'catch tower' is a tiny prop that they are using perspective to try and make look full sized.
>>16470080>her
>>16470164Kys subhuman
>>16470025starjak
starlink was used to hack the electionhttps://twitter.com/RealJoeBonanno/status/1855668663484903677
NASA Administrator Harrison Schmitt
>>16470187shut the fuck up
>>16470187how stupid are these people
>>16470188that BO shill can fuck off
>>16470204class 6 stupid
>>16470204linux was involved too kekhttps://twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1855628020498747619
trolls trolling trollswith suggestionable morons in between
>>16470208damn, Linus was behind it all
>>16470208Everyone with a brain and some basic understanding of the swing states knew 4 hours before the news called it.
>>16470099One of the arms is going to fall off, I guarantee it.
>>16470218Are you telling me the front is gonna fall off? I guess they'll have to dump the booster outside the environment.
>>16470044>"He's an idiot!" cried Anon about the man who is ontologically incapable of losing
>>16469360You are of course aware that a giant natural gas liquefaction plant is currently under construction in Brownsville, aren’t you? When complete, even 1000 starship launches a year would only use a small fraction of the total LNG output. You guys are totally overestimating the difficulties of the utility requirements. Much of the Texas gulf coast is a giant chemical plant already. NIMBY groups are always going to raise a stink, but nobody that matters is going to bat an eye at a few new air separator units or whatever.
>>16470204Too stupid to continue the experiment of universal suffrage.
>>16470225>Haha! Those silly democrats falling for election misinformation! So stupid!>Well, time to find more anonymous twitter accounts posting election misinformation to signal boost all over /sfg/>>>/pol/
>>16470225why does this Troon native care about US politics again?
>>16470147once the rocket goes up, who cares where it comes down?
nuts.
>>16470231i care
>>16470229shit looks dirty as hell.
>>16470234unbased and not von braun pilled
>>16470230>Highly skilled employee, makes over 6 figures at least>Started a family and produced white children>Home owner, regularly flies planes for funHe has more of a right to a vote then 95% of this general.
>>16470239>has a goofy european accentthat should disqualify him from voting if we're being real. elon speaks proper american, why can't he?
>>16470242And yet... he has white children and you do not.
>>16469958Glad you disapprove
>>16470243his children aint white.
>>16470247Sorry bruh, that's just cope. Especially from a childless loser such as yourself.
>>16470248how many whte children do you have? (0)
>>16470253The kids at the park are free, I have 14 kids
>>16470226The problem is the environmental assessment review issues that comes with building an LNG facility in the middle of a wild life refuge. I would shut that shit down not to impede SpaceX but to make it so that they can go faster. You don't want to give ecofaggots an infinite ammo cheat code and it would give them exactly that shit. LNG facilities are hella complicated and you have build behemoth storage facilities for the pre purification product and post purification product, along with other facilities for handling the byproducts; and if things leak and they will, because entropy and fuck you that's why, SpaceX would never see the end of environmental lawsuits and litigation, all of which would impact their ability to launch ships from Boca Chica.People always assume NIMBY shit in matters like this, but never fail to first principles on why anybody would oppose it, instead defaulting to NIMBY-ism because that happened to be common place in other parts of the country. But unless Trump says "Fuck the EPA, Elon you and SpaceX get an exemption and if anything goes wrong, a presidential pardon so that you are completely free from any and all liability," There's a hundred different groups trying to find a crack in the SpaceX excellence field in order to blow it the fuck up. I want to see more than a thousand people on the Moon and Mars before I die and I sure as shit don't want ecofaggots getting in the way of that, which sometimes, also includes building an LNG facility in the middle of a wild life refuge by the company I champion the most.
>>16470257tldr on what this idiot put?
>>16469596At higher light intensities plants aren't really trying to use as much light energy as possible, rather they're more focused on not getting damaged by too much light. Plants that live in direct sunlight aren't really built to maximize light absorption, rather to survive it.
>>16470236>unbasedso how many days ago did you get here?
>>16470239he is literally trooncoded
>>16470225Well... he's correct. Now there's retards claiming Elon stole the election with Starlink satellites.
>>16470264sweet pea, I've been here for years
reminder that the average normalfag thinks a "satellite" is the thing they install on the side of their double-wide trailer to get TV
18th still looking good. Partly cloudy and 13% precipitation.
>>16470271>apparent size in skyfrom what vantage point? certainly not earth
>>16470271callisto once again gains another reason to be the foothold settlement for when outer system colonization begins.
>>16470274weather forecasts more than a week out is nothing but noise. no sense checking the forecasts until 5 or 4 days before.
nobody cares, nobody cares and nobody cares.
>>16470272no normalfags know thats a satellite dish, and also no zoomers even watch TV anymore its all on phone (i speak as part of the demographic) so most know it as the shit thats in orbit.
>>16470278
>>16470277I WILL continue to update you on the forecast, and you WILL enjoy it.
>>16470271can someone tell me when nereid even made this list?
>>16470257Again there is an LNG facility under construction only a few miles away from Starbase which will ultimately produce 27 million tons a year of LNG. Enough for thousands of launches a year, from a single facility, among several facilities currently in planning or construction in the United States. The scale of planned propellant usage is absurd by space industry standards, but it’s within the same order of magnitude as new construction projects in the energy and chemical sectors, which are commonplace on the Texas coast. At any given time, there are multiple projects of this scale in various stages of environmental review, and unless you follow the industry or live next door, you will never hear about them. Lawsuits happen, regulations have to be followed, but shit gets built.
there should be a starship launch on every anniversary of the first 5 IFTs.
>>16470281I am not joking with you. Normalfags conflate satellites and satellite dishes. The dishes get called "satellites" and they don't even think about what they're pointed at. If you ask them where the "satellite" (dish) gets a signal from they'll mumble something about radio towers and ask why you're being weird.
>>16470287do you live in a subhuman state or something? i mean i live in FL were pretty stupid here but everyone i know doesnt get basic things like this confused.
>>16470290ew its not in a well. also whats with that strange central pillar
>>16470288interact with more average people and you'll start to realize they are completely oblivious to most things like this. I don't mean people at your job or that you went to school with, your intellectual peers, I mean the unwashed masses.
>>16470292its a net to stop people falling out of the zero gravity axis
>>16470272You're about 20 years out of date anon.
>>16470286Eventually there will be 5-10 per anniversary day, no different than any other day.
>An election conspiracy theory is spreading on social media alleging that billionaire Elon Musk hacked the 2024 election in favor of President-elect Donald Trump using his Starlink satellite internet company.FELON.HUSK.
fuck your thread derailer baitsource?
>>16470303It's true. I saw it happen myself.
>>16470303thunderfoot has to be happy. Elon being trump's vice president #2 means it's a blank check to accuse them of quid pro quo forever
>>16470299if only you knew how bad things really are
>>16470285Oh and the wildlife refuge thing is a non-issue as well. SpaceX will be able to obtain more land the way they already have and the way everyone else does: by negotiating land swaps with the government. The FWS gets more land for the refuge, and SpaceX gets more of Boca Chica. There’s more than enough coastal marshland in south Texas to go around.
thunderf00t has surprisingly not gone down the blueanon route of election denial even though he would be like THE #1 person to do it since he seethes specifically over spacex. same with CSS, very strange but i guess there is a deeper end than them. so sad they used starlink of all things for this.
>>16470314It literally is a quid pro quo. NASA is giving Elon Money and he builds them a moon lander. There's even a written contract and everything.
>>16470274Man, a lot of people (myself included) are going to be spoiled by how good the weather was last time. Every part of the flight was visible with the naked eye, I never lost sight of the booster from launch to stage sep to landing. >Clouds? Atmospheric haze? That's bullshit! I should be able to see straight up to space!
>>16470322>Clouds? Atmospheric haze? That's bullshit!Been saying it for years anon
>>16470310https://www.newsweek.com/starlink-musk-trump-election-conspiracy-theory-spreads-online-1983444>>16469780The Port of Brownsville exists and is already well optimised for SpaceX operations as they specialize in large non containerized cargo.>>16470285Biden had been trying to block construction and is now trying to fast track a DoE asessment to stall things further.https://www.upstreamonline.com/lng/construction-continues-at-contested-us-lng-project-after-court-ruling/2-1-1737282
>>16470320The ISS astronauts are literally hostages.
>>16470326>newsweekoh I see. its a left wing copium. let me laugh even harder.I thought you believed this theory for a second because of the meme image of thunderf00t and the FELON HUSK bitnow I see youre just relaying some luls to us, thanks
fuck you
>>16470318Wake up old man. CSS has been /ourguy/ for months shilling non stop for a Trump landslide.
>>16470326>Biden had been trying to block constructionLet’s see how that works out for him. Regardless of the outcome of Brownsville LNG, my point is more about trying to temper some of the doom and gloom around LNG and LOX. SpaceX is a big boy company now, and companies of similar size are able to pull off projects of this magnitude (obtaining millions of tons of liquefied gases) all the time. I honestly think that the bigger government hurdles are going to be permanent closure of the beach and the noise pollution. That sumbitch is loud as fuck all the way over in south padre.
>>16470318CSS is right-wing apparentlyif you check his xwitter, he reposts normie conservative stuff
>>16470346that's just camouflage to disguise his partisan motivations. essentially concern trolling.
>>16470263Plants will use almost much energy as they are given, within reason, aslong as the requisites are met. That being water, root zone oxygen, nutrients and CO2.It happens to be that in the summer months many plants are CO2 starved. Of course it all depends on species, corn uses more light than lettuce. Both would benifit from more CO2 but the lettuce is saturated with less lightDamage from light mostly occurs from non native species being put in a high-UV or high solar radiation environment, lack of resources or extreme VPDs
>>16470339>doom and gloom around LNG and LOXOnce the Rio Grande LNG facility is online all you need is a pipeline between the facility and the Starbase tank farm. Even without that facility you could still build an offload terminal at the port and buy it by the tanker load. LOX seems a bit more challenging but can probably be solved with on site production. Another situation where a pipeline might be the solution but I don't think LOX pipelines have been tried at the same scale as natural gas, probably due to a lack of need.https://asiaiga.org/uploaded_docs/AIGA%20021_12%20Oxygen%20pipeline%20and%20piping%20systems.pdfhttps://www.eiga.eu/uploads/documents/DOC013.pdf>permanent closure of the beachI don't think its needed at the proposed launch cadence and is currently impossible under state law and would be unpopular with the locals. Even temporary closures required a change to state law.>>16470339>noise pollutionFortunately South Padre is more vacationers than permanent residents although there is also Port Isabel but it's a little further away. My biggest concern is they're going to need more than four launch towers a lot sooner than later.
>>16469426All I'm going to say is you can use an artificially generated electromagnetic field to protect yourself from radiation, and that centrifuges are necessary to surviving in low gravity enviromes for years.
>>16469883this is why we need artificial electromagnetic fields around human occupied spacecraft
>>16470361>>16470360same. fag.
until we bring the first huge space rock into NEO from the asteroid belt for mining reasons I consider space to be fake and gayprove me wrong, you can't
>>16470187>>16470208Post the one where they said Starship software was being used to change votes.
>>16470365can you fuck off?
>>16470365Is there a spell to boost the ISS
>>16470359The eventual launch cadence proposed by Musk is hundreds of launches a year, or essentially daily. That would absolutely entail permanent closure of the beach and thousands of angry property owners. Even a more realistic but still bonkers cadence of weekly launches would surely cause serious resistance.
>>16470187KEK, I thought it was just one single unironic schizo on twitter, so I looked it up, and turns out this conspiracy theory is spreading like wildfire, expect lots of hit pieces tomorrow.
>>16470372>thousands of angry property ownersGulag them.
elon wait until the senate appointments are made what the fuck
>>16470377fucking hawaiian nigger
>>16470377nice gimp skills anon
>>16470372There really aren't any property owners along the beach as far as I can tell. All the plots belong to either SpaceX, TPWD, or the federal government. I would agree that is essentially permanent closure but only if all the launches are from Starbase which likely won't be the case. It basically can't happen unless TX changes its law so something will have to give, be it the cadence or the law.
>>16470377Elon is going completely mask off!
>>16470377WTF! Is this Real!?!
>>16470377>musk is a furry
>>16470384>>16470383>>16470385samefagging + pass buying scum. what a paypig imagine using money on 4chan.
>>16470386Are you okay?
>>16470385Anon, I...https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1113545297311948803
>>16470377chat is this real?
>>16470360>use an artificially generated electromagnetic field to protect yourself from radiation
>>16470386try again
>>16470382I mean property owners on SPI and the surrounding area. Although I would love to be able to sit on my front porch every morning with a coffee and watch a Starship rip ass across the sky, I’m not certain everyone else is such a sonic boom appreciator.
>>16470392Correct.
HaolongStated length 10m and 8m wideAround 7 ton heavyWings will fold for launch.
>>16470398They've knocked off the X-37b?
https://x.com/cas_space/status/1855824105389404247CAS Space Kinetica 1 llaunched 15 minutes ago.
>>16470399It's a cargo ressuply vehicle, it's more of an X37B sized Dreamchaser, their X37B is already flying since 2020
>>16470394it wasnt even that loud on reentry i was literally there. i guarantee you that if you were sleeping in your house, you wouldnt even notice it reentering. the loudest thing you would hear being at SPI (which by the way seemed to be mostly businesses and not living spaces aside from hotels) would be the people going to the beach for the launches and not the rocket itself.
>>16470394Just pay them to appreciate sonic booms. It's only around 3500 households within 10 miles.
>>16470398why can't Europe do something like this?
>>16470406because europe isnt a one party communalizing state.
>>16470320Thankfully we have people like thunderf00t to write 30 minute exposes on how NASA is paying SpaceX to develop hardware after they won a government contract for it under shady circumstances (NASA flat out ignored lobbyists from longstanding trusted partners; it was positively un-American)
>>16470063Woe, SAR be upon ye
>>16470406they don't have the right stuff
>>16470402>It's a cargo ressuply vehicle, it's more of an X37B sized DreamchaserThat sounds interesting, does it deploy something like a mini-cygnus from the payload bay that delivers itself to their station? Or does the whole thing go there?
>>16470406Evropa rises (you just have to give them a few years)
>>16470392the magnetosphere is what protects us from cosmic and solar radiation
>>16470415why did you spell atmosphere like that?
>>16470403I was there as well at Isla Blanca and was surprised at how loud it was. I think it would at least wake me up if I were sleeping on the island. Still probably not as bad as living next to a rail crossing. I believe that Starbase will expand operations dramatically in the coming years, but there will be non-engineering hurdles to doing so. I just wanted to speculate about what those hurdles might end up being. Ultimately, Starbase will happen just like airports, LNG terminals, and chemical plants happen, as long as the economic incentive is sufficient to justify it. Some people win and some people lose. It’s definitely going to be smoother than trying something like this in California.
>>16470412Whole thing goesAnother chinese company is developping a cygnus equivalent tho (Shanghai Microsat's Qingzhou)
>>16470410saar
>>16470417because the word "atmosphere" doesn't necessarily take into account the electromagnetic fieldmoreover, the magnetosphere reaches beyond the bounds of what you call the "atmosphere" very significantlywe are more inclined to ask, why are you so quick to castigate the electomagnetic field of our planet
>>16470420One of those doors appears unnecessary but that aside it's pretty fuckin' neato to have a little spaceplane for station cargo, and I approve.
>>16470406Europe is a sick old man that doesn't have the faculties or energy to do more than struggle to breathe. Basically South America with even less of a future.
our atmosphere is protected by the magnetosphereMars does not have any appreciable atmosphere because it's dynamo is inactive
>>16470425Solar panels and radiators
>>16470427Don't say it
>>16470429all I'm waiting for is for the collapse of our planetary EMF due to pole shift to say ITS HAPPENING
>muh magnetospheres!!cool story bro. tell me why ganymede isnt an oasis for life
>>16470400Succesful launch of 15 satellitesIncluding an Omani observation satellite
>>16470326mcdowell mentioned
>>16470429EARTHER!
>>16469883like a camel's hump, it appears she sustained herself from the nutrients stored in her chin
>>16470434whats his deal? i see his posts on my timeline allot, hes and astroonomer but he doesnt EDS seethe, seems fairly happy about spacex actually.
>>16470440smart dude, tirelessly maintains a list of stuff in space. McDowell Line > Karman Line too
>>16470440Seems like a stereotypical nerd from the 90s, in a good way. Autistic about his field, doesn't care about appearances, curious, loves scienceTM, pedantic.
>>16470440he TDS seethes instead
>>16470002National security nigga, deport the whiners to california
>>16470058It was supposed to be, it isnt
>>16470448you take what you can get, seems like a cool guy anyways
>>16470463wrong. its like €75 m per launch. €115 in heavy mode
CALLISTO
>>16470472the thinking man knows this is our stepping stone to the outer system
the future
>>16470235>Mir looks dirtyOh anon you have no idea how deep that rabbit hole goes.
>>16470477How the hell is the flip going to work with this?
>>16470477>30 tons to leo
>>16470479Did you not see IFT-1?
>>16470469https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/oops-it-looks-like-the-ariane-6-rocket-may-not-offer-europe-any-launch-savings/Ariane 6 costs the same per launch as Ariane 5
>>16470478I don't care about the mold, Mir was sovlfvll
>>16470372https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855720829830758872
Elon Musk has been nominated FAA Administrator
>>16470099Looks like a fucking minecraft render lmao
>>16470490Fake
>>16470492
>>16470483fake news. also it fits in the medium launch vehicle market that soyuz cant fit anymore because of reasons
>>16470495what reasons?
>>16470496because europe (zog) doesnt want to use russian (chad) rockets any more.judaism basically.
Ariane 6 costs like 400mil a pop because they get a 300mil subsidy per year and only launch like once a year
>>16470488
>>16470077her eggs....
>>16470377fuck off Noa
>>16470501まさか...
>>16470493it's a rumour
>>16470513Started by you with no basis in reality. Ever heard of conflict of interest? Elon has no clue what to do with the actual aviation side of the FAA either. Do you have any idea how retarded youve made yourself look?
>>16470514ok calm down
>>16470498>they're no longer using my half-brown shithole's rocketsrussia is not the based trad saviour of the white race nation /pol/yp, get over yourself.
>>16470480it's actually 150 tons to LEO but continue seething.>>16470517>retardation is exposed>no YOU need to calm downcalm down yourself, retard, don't embarrass yourself any further.
>>16470589you can shut up now fatso
>>16470593what's the point of all this damage control anon? you embarrassed yourself by acting like a moron, don't make it even worse for yourself and just move on.
>>16470483ARScels seething at Berger
>>16470598go go gadget fruck yourself
>>16469936I see tape in the picture. That's a tape outgas interstellar drive.
>>16470600>letting burgers work themselves to death to build things from my enjoyment while i get to have a healthy work/life balancewho knew being a europoor could feel so good
>>16469936What's in the box?
>>16470600>100-hour weeksdo they really?
>>16470600>I don't understand, how can SpaceX be doing good if my science influencers say they're doing bad?Cognitive dissonance, the post.
>>16468509it took forever for normiefags to stop calling Atari video game cartridges "nintendo tapes"
>>16468509Millenials don't have the frontal lobe damage responsible for the boomer/genx neuroplasticity deficit.We can learn new stuff. We're retarded in completely new ways.
>Almost 900 posts before page 10What happened?
>>16470628Lots of important spaceflight discussion
>>16470628the thread is like 2 days old nigga, its more that /sci/ is even deader than usual
>>16470628/sci/ fucking died
>>16470628Post election clarity
I'm sure the jannies have had three or four catalog purges by now, and there could be another one even after we hit page 10.Also nobody flood-posted 50 images of the same shit we've already seen before and hitting the image limit.
>>16470432>An oasis of lifeIt very well might be depending on what we find on similar bodies like Europa.
>>16470631Soon bros.As it is written.
>>16470600>workplace cultureStupid argument. The biggest problem of Europe are welfare (especially to shitskins), taxes and overregulation.
>>16470645Its lack of worth ethics and lack of work culture. There's like mandatory 2 month paid time off requirement for European companies. Its insane. Tesla had ~200-300 not come to work for 6+ months claiming they were sick that they had to send people to their homes to check out if they were alive or not.
Could we terraform mars by just using a huge leafblower to blow the regolith off of the massive amounts of ice?Once exposed it should sublimate and give mars a decent cloud cover. More effective than shipping millions of starships worth of asbestos to fuck the air, right?
>>16470653Just get million leaf blowers
>>16470654Well, yeah. Or if there's some other way to sequester dusty regolith and expose sub-surface water.
>>16470655Sure, just get 1 leaf blower and run it for a trillion trillion trillion years, then we might get somewhere
>>16470652>There's like mandatory 2 month paid time off requirement for European companiesDid you learn this from xitter?
>>16470660Sounds a bit old-space for me.
>>16470662I learned it from your mom last night
>>16470663There's good old nuke in orbit to heat up atmosphere within few decades/hundred years
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855936841628733600Musk for Emperor of Earth and Mars
>>16470694Oh nej, cringe.
>>16470694Great, he's going full edgy now.
>>16470699When you're on top of the world you're allowed to be cringe
>>16470653What colour would Mars be if we removed all the regolith?
>>16470700That doesn't stop people making fun of you for being cringe.
>>16470696oh ja
>>16470715and? what are they gonna do about it? seethe on the internet?
>>16470438jesus anon
>>16470719No, they're gonna keep laughing at you elon.
>>16470694Why does he post ike a 12 year old girl
>>16470694A type of person I'm finding very funny right now is people used to celebrities (popularity contest) and politicians (popularity contest) wondering a person they see regularly is an annoying autist.>any time I see a person a lot they're cool or likeable >why do I keep seeing this retardThey just don't know lol
>>16470732>Elon is so cool, he acts like an autist and doesn't give a fuck! He's just like me fr fr>Anon forgot he doesn't have billions of dollarsmany such cases
>>16470734You seem to be doing some kind of narcissistic projection but no I think Elon is a caustic retard, it's just funny to see people around the internet that are genuinely confused about why someone they're subjected to is so cringe
>>16470734elon is based as fuck
>>16470737Because he has billions of dollars and cool projects. The mistake autists like >>16470735 make is that people like him because of his autism, not despite it.
>>16470740his autism is irrelevant
>>16470742It's what enables him to drive people so hard and focus on the goal.
Enough of this rocketry BS, when do we get field propulsion?
>>16470753never
>>16470753John Deere perfected field propulsion
>>16470652>There's like mandatory 2 month paid time off requirement for European companiesI wish
Chang'e-8, 2028
>>16470740I like him because I like space. Despite the autism
>>16470763Oh, so they arent delivering humans to the moon by that date then? Looks like America wins. HLS will be ready by that time.
>>16470699If you dont cringe then you're not free.
>there will never be 10 million ton NPP starships launched from earths surfacefuck all earthers
>>16470694
>>16470776deep.
>>16470512さすがイーロンさん
>>16470776in this case its actually true
>>16470499good thing reuse is uneconomical and you'll just run out of launches>invent new reasons to launch because you can hit order of magnitude savingshhmmmmmmm
>>16470645The same person in the same job could be 1/10th as productive if you are working only 30 hours a week with tons of breaks vs 80 hours a week and sleeping at the job siteworkplace culture matters, having people who care right on your ass making shit happen matters.
>>16470786>Make lots of money off the things you're launching a lot of>The rest of the industry has no idea what to do now
>>16470789This is literally why they broke up companies 100 years ago with anti-trust bullshitLuckily rocketry is too complex to try that
>>16470484>sovlfvllI bet you're a furry. I'd bet real cash.
>>16470791I believe Peter Thiel when he says market spawned monopolies are good (notably not subversive monopolies like Boeing who can't compete anymore but lobbied and bribed enough to maintain their position). I mean look at SpaceX. They have a money printer and they're immediately turning around and spending the money on innovation
>>16470791>Luckily rocketry is too complex to try thatNope. SpaceX will get buck broken before Mars landings.
>>16470793Are you speaking from experience?
>>16470797Observation and data fitting
>>16470799Hmmm okay… youre still suspect #1 but you may continue.
how much time wasting do employees do for companies that only launch once a yearLike if you are a flight operations guy, do you literally stay home 10 months out of the year getting paid?
>>16470794Problem is they naturally decay into a Boeing. SpaceX without Musks autistic directives would stagnate. Starship would be used as a LEO bus for Starlink, with the bare minimum effort done to complete the Artemis landings. They may even ignore the landings alltogether since theyve already received 90% of the contract money so there is no financial reason to put all that effort in. Future versions of Starship would be 100% focused on bussing satelites to LEO with the refuelling feature abandoned because it's not economcially useful. These problems would be compounded if the company goes public and has to give out a high fraction of the starlink profit as dividends as well as face shareholder litigation if it ever tries to do something which doesnt strictly make economic sense.
Could you recommend a good source if I want to learn about cryogenic pumps and valves?
>>16470812your dads fleshlight
Staging>>16470821>>16470821>>16470821
>>16470812I am going to be honest, I don't know the answer to this question, but I have noticed that there is a sort of law or principle in 4chan by which people with replies have much higher chances of receiving more replies, therefore it is in my interest to write a reply that seems long at first glance and people can believe it is thoughtful and of quality, when I'm reality it is just very elaborate shitposting orchestrated under the premise of enhancing the exposition of the post for the actual anon that knows the answer.And since no thoughtful post is actually composed of a single paragraph, this has to end in a last, lonely line, or a few finishing lines that would give the idea that whoever wrote this has structured thinking, when in reality I am just imitating the form of a quality post.Please, any would be so kind to reply to this man in an actual proper way?
>>16470763Why is China so soulless?
>>16470186i like it
>>16470828Mao had everyone destroy their soul, and each others, as part of the 5 Olds campaign
>>16469982Yes, it's my first lesson. So I won't be able to go hard at it. But if the reaction is good, maybe I could do a monthly thing there. and go full autism.>>16470121Croatia
>>16470377BASED BASED BASED
>>16470810I guess that's why tesla has gone to shit because he spends all his time at SpaceX now.
>>16470824if you want replies you have to post before it has 950 posts and on page 10idiot
>>16470871is this a joke?
>>16470907No? The car quality has objectively gone down. While the technology has gotten better with castings and such. Other smaller details have suffered and it's only getting worse like panels pealing off of cybertruck. They seem to only get better at manufacturing more vehicles rather than making better vehicles.
>>16470918wrong
>>16470949to expand on this, the refreshed model 3 is much better than non-refreshed one and the other models have also improvedcar quality has gone up in the "older" models, model y refresh is coming out soon as wellcybertruck is a completely new platform and car and has some teething issues just like model 3 had when it came out, this is just the way Tesla does thingsbasically beta testing early ramp vehicles with customers and then rapidly iterating and improvingin fact the same method SpaceX uses (what a coincidence)
>>16470617multiple capacitor-plate QI thrusters
>>16470957how well do they take care of those early adopters? seems like it would be nice to fix and upgrade those first editions free of charge or something as time goes by.
Oh no you guys it's on fire...
woosh
>>16470989the cars get updated software just like all other Teslas, but getting a somewhat shoddy vehicle is the price you pay for being an early adopterbut you get to experience the vehicle itself like a year before the masses basically
stuck it
>>16471026i guess you go in knowing the deal.
>>16471038name?
>Spaceplane developer Reaction Engines goes bankruptImagine spending your entire career working at a space companyAnd never ever onceTest anything you worked on
>>16471026>Cybertruck founders edition cost $20,000 extra just to be a shitty beta tester>with no hardware fixesLmao
>>16470372It's going to be a lot more than daily to get a fleet of 1000 starships fueled in orbit in a few months during the synod. That's at least 5000 launches, or more than 50 per day if it's over three months.
>>16470398>中国载人航天>unmanned vehiclewhat did they mean by this?
>>16470406The Chinese study hard and work hard and have effective government.Euros are interested in the dumbest fucking bullshit, hate work and their government and corporations make America seem like paradise in comparison.
>>16471158>effective government.AKA brutal souless dictatorship
>>16471182I'm not saying it's great, but it is effective, especially when compared to those governing europe.
>>16471192it's neither safe nor effective. the only reason china isn't still a poverty ridden shithole (and honestly theres still plenty of that) is because they reduced controls of stuff, and the party only did that because there was mass disobedience in the immediate post-mao years. What you have is a bunch of old power hungry old guys who simply dont like the idea of people doing stuff without their say so. That some things get done is sheer chance, because so many other things get fucked up and dont get done by the same means. Ive been there, talked to people, including mid to upper level party members (they have the biggest house in the town and plenty of kids spread around the country lol) and thats what they say. Most of the younger ones want to leave and live in American.
>>16471192shit, sorry for sperging out about this subject in /sfg/. Wrong place, wrong time.
>>16471219New thread is already up it doesn't matter
>>16470824kek
>>16468553chinks steal everything, they know you know they stole it, they even know you know this. They keep doing these ignoble acts because they are shamelessthis behavior is encouraged under CCP rule and wider chink culture
>>16468583you'd fucking hope so given they've stolen someone else's working design, if they've not improved it'd reinforce that chinks have no original ideas
>>16469286How about RFC 1149?
