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Cancel SLS - edition

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https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1859378696735556032
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>>16486985
What the fuck is this tweet? Like did anyone there including the person who posted it watch the video? Elon answers immediately and doesn't turn to ask another engineer. Why would someone lie and just post the video proving its a lie with their lie?
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4chan now supports mp4 btw
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Would it even be possible to land something on Sedna and have it be functional? Let alone outer solar system bodies? Surely the input latency would be so massive that it would be impossible.
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Why does it always come back to tesla stock with these people?
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>>16487760
Because Musk "skepticism" started with Tesla and stocktards, in this case shorters, are obsessed with him.
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What would it take for Bezos to give up on launchers and focus on space stations? Would he rather die without seeing his dream realized, than just using SpaceX to launch his hardware? I don't understand. If I was in his position I would've built Orbital Reef using Falcon 9 already. Does he care about space at all? Or does he care but his ego matters more?
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>>16487768
>Does he care about space at all?
hahaha
No.
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>>16487768
the actions he takes, this seems to be about clout and ego more than the importance of the achievements themselves
you can see it in the fact that he wasn't involved with BO until a year or two ago, i.e. he didn't really give a shit about it
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>>16487738
I wonder why some are less "lit up" than other
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>>16487768
>Would he rather die without seeing his dream realized, than just using SpaceX to launch his hardware?
Yes. Reminder that the board of Kuiper got mad because he refused to launch on Falcon 9.
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>>16487768
>Or does he care but his ego matters more?
It's not so much his ego as his own identity thats at stake here. It's been known for a while that bezos wanted to do this since childhood. He sees himself as the space guy. So when someone else actually becomes the thing he wants to be then it's a threat to his self-conception.
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>>16487768
>Or does he care but his ego matters more?
His ego.
Just look at that whole thing about the old saturn 5 rocket engines he had a crew pick up from the bottom of the ocean.
That entire docu was one big circlejerk about how he is such a space visionary, but at the same time articles were leaking out that blue origin was in trouble because bezos put yes men in control of the company who only knew how to run warehouses and abuse their staff.
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>>16487769
>>16487771
>>16487776
>>16487778
>>16487783
Well, bummer. He definitely has more liquidity than Musk, I'd have to guess several times more considering their very different positions. His cash could've been a real help to SpaceX. Building his giant space stations between Mars windows would've been a cool way to keep up the cadence. I'm not nearly as optimistic about cylinders and asteroid mining as I am about Mars, but the sooner we get them figured out the sooner we can stick an Orion drive on the back. His work could've still been remembered by history
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i dont know or understand any of the technical stuff behind spaceflight, but i love it anyway
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>>16487786
I stay for the cute anime rocket girls.
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>>16487768
All Bezos cares about is appealing to his own vanity, he’s put his midlife crisis on full display for the entire world and it’s pathetic. That webm of him blasting champagne at his horrifying demon bimbo wife while William Shatner sits solemnly after they’ve both experienced one of the most profound things a human can go through shows he doesn’t actually care about space and just wants to appear like a cool billionaire
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>>16487786
Try reddit then, tard
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>>16487789
Reddit is for the people who dont know what they are talking about but still feel a need to to do so.
That anon at least is honest.
Now fuck off newfag.
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>>16487788
And what is that vanity worth when set against the infinite future of space? Pic related, the lunar rotor city I designed, with Jeff Bezos' yacht in the water, bottom left (actually scaled to Bezos' yacht specifically)
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>>16487793
What happens if you jump in this.
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>>16487760
every single critique of Starship here revolves around it having not achieved something yet, why do they struggle so much with extrapolation?
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Babe wake up, an ICBM was just actively used for war for the first time in history
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has there been any info when the first starship using raptor 3 engines will fly?
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>>16487800
Source?
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>>16487801
no
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>>16487800
US officials debunked this.
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>>16487798
if anon will supply the radius and rotation rate you can plug them into this
https://www.tomlechner.com/outerspace/
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>>16487804
Seems to be nothing more than ukrainians coping about how a missile got past their air defense.
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>>16487802
The US is contesting the intelligence. But Ukr is saying an RS-26 was used. Probably just a cope lol
Nothing ever happen and solid rockets are gay anyways
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>>16487798
Pretty much the same as on Earth
>>16487805
240 meter radius at 0.2 radians per second. Combined with lunar gravity the ~11° slopes at the edges are a full 1g
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>>16487800
If starship launches from texas, orbits the world and then bellyflops right in to the FAA office, is it also a ICBM?
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>>16487800
Wew
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>>16487812
>Nothing ever happen
only goalpost movers say that
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>>16487823
So these where ICBM's with multiple warheads?
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>>16487823
Oh fuck, the goa'uld are here.
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>>16487839
Did BO ever end up buying ball aerospace?
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>>16487823
Did they launch duds?
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>>16487774
if you look at a photo of the engines before they're fired, some are naturally a darker shade inside
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>>16487852
Test fired?
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>>16487856
mixed race engines
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>>16487850
Yes, unarmed ones. Just kinetic energy here
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>>16487840
indeed
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>>16487837
MIRV? yes
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>>16487758
testing...
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>>16487800
It wasn't ICBM, already denied by US.
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IFT-6 as seen from the ISS, with any luck they'll be better video than what was available through the public feed
>https://x.com/astro_Pettit/status/1859574336186675524
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>>16487736
Have we heard anything about the banana yet? Did it survive?
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spehs
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>>16487758
>Error: Maximum allowed video duration is 120 seconds.
I understand file size limit but why a video duration limit?
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>>16487876
Wtf is this monstrosity? Almost looks like the SLS with a little starship taped to the side. Who made this render?
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>>16487866
:O
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>>16487876
disgusting, here you have a real spaceplane
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total SLS death
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>>16487876
>>16487883
TFW no shuttle reboost mission to Skylab
TFW no shuttle-buran docked to Mir at the same time
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>>16487879
there are standards
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>>16487885
why didn't nasa ever bother to pressurize the entire space shuttle payload bay for some launches? that would've added almost 300 more cubic meters of space, are they stupid?
>inb4 it's not that easy in lifesupportry
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>>16487886
What do you mean by that?
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As NASA increasingly relies on commercial space, there are some troubling signs
>There are growing concerns about the sustainability of this strategy, though. Some contractors are struggling financially, and others have bowed out of commercial programs entirely. Inside the space agency, too, there appears to be some pushback against these private space initiatives, with agency officials seeking more control. Some key commercial space leaders have left or been edged out of the agency, leaving questions about who will champion these programs. In short, after nearly two decades, NASA’s commercial space efforts are starting to show some cracks.
>The problem is that NASA has gotten away from the guiding principles that led to success with the early cargo and crew programs.
>Some of the new commercial programs have skipped the COTS development phase entirely and have gone directly into the services phase—even though the contractors are still developing their hardware. NASA also appears to be funding a far lower share of costs than it did during the cargo and crew programs. Additionally, many of the new programs do not have any near-term customers except the government, so NASA is not one of many customers—it is the only customer.
>And perhaps most importantly, NASA is loading the companies down with requirements. NASA is adding requirements, changing them, and burdening contractors with thousands of requirements rather than hundreds.
>“They have shoved a cost-plus contract into a fixed-price environment,” one senior government source said. “Instead of a lean contract, there are thousands of requirements for something that has no other customers.”
>Added an official from a commercial space company working on a fixed-price contract with NASA: “It certainly feels like a lot of people are treating us like we’re a cost-plus contractor."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/as-nasa-increasingly-relies-on-commercial-space-there-are-some-troubling-signs/
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>>16487890
if the filesize is limited but the playtime is not, the possibility exists that we may be exposed to a moving postage stamp sized video several hours long, and THAT cannot be ricked or tolerated
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>>16487891
>The cost of fixed price
huh
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>>16487888
because the doors had to be open all the time while in orbit?
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>>16487893
nasa is making it harder for companies to complete the contracts. the requirements are too much for newspace companies, and the money too low for oldspace companies, so its becoming very ineffecient and useless.
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>>16487891
Hopefully the new admin is going to fix that.
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>>16487894
kek, I meant in missions where they wouldn't be deploying any payloads, just chilling inside as if it were a space station. they could dedicate one of the orbiters, say endeavor or discovery, for this, so that they don't have to add and remove the extra ECLSS all the time.
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I've extracted the original size of the sonic boom maps from the pdf
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>>16487895
it would work if every company was spacex
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>>16487899
it was designed to be modular you dope
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>>16487903
we were fucking ROBBED
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>>16487902
i was wondering if the companies working on these projects could hire spacex or some other company to help them get the contracts done
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>>16487849
we know the answer to that for at least the mobics on the ground, and the answer is yes
but I don't think the men holding the keys to the kingdom feel the same way
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>>16487823
What the fuck? Those don't look like MIRVs
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>>16487899
NTA but the payload bay doors HAD to open on the Shuttle no matter what. It’s the only way the radiators could work. If the doors got jammed, it would abort the mission and the orbiter had to return to Earth.
The closest thing to what you are describing would be SpaceHab
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>>16487895
then just make the requirements laxer, easy
if no one else except spacex is able to compete, then make the competition easier and have multiple providers so other companies get a lifeline
should still be much cheaper and better than cost+ to oldspace
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>>16487768
"Elon Musk wants to colonize space. Jeff Bezos wants to be the guy who colonized space."
-an anon from /sfg/
It's his ego.
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>>16487888
it was called spacelab https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacelab
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>>16487852
trypophobia
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859605758091894795
>To be clear, I have not done any media interviews and this is not actually my checklist.
>I am trying to make life multiplanetary to maximize the probable lifespan of consciousness. Some of the items below are needed for that.
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>>16487893
>paid for a certain product or milestone
>start adding all sorts of bullshit and meddling and other nonsense that isn't covered in the contract
>companies can't say no since its the only show in town

>>16487902
spacex can say no to too much bullshit or just back out of the contract because they have their own business
If you are some start up in 2024 and your only revenue is NASA then you have to jump through the hoops till bankruptcy
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>>16487925
so the problem isn't fixed price contracts, its retarded NASA bureucrats
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PpxSk6RjWc
The launches never stop
Starlink going up in T-48:00
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>

“I don't know if they understand what they're doing,” a private industry official said. “The government's really got to look at itself. They’ve got to continue to strip it down and keep the focus on ‘how do I get this hardware out?’ They do that by being very, very, very thoughtful about how they're managing the contract. They’ve always got to be thinking, ‘How do I reduce my overhead on the contract?’ It forces you to be very deliberate in all aspects of your product, program, and project management related to that service. And honestly, if you do that, guess what? You get more hardware for your dollars.”
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do you think trump's nasa will pay more respect to the advice of the oig? if he wants a moon landing this term he can't have any more schedule slips
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>>16487931
>the ratio of NASA engineers working on a program is essentially 1:1 with those of the private contractors
this is completely insane
Why are they hiring contractors at all in the first place if your "management" team is bigger than the full time contractors team ????
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>>16487892
?
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>>16487947
kek
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does HR ask question to people on job interview for positions at SpaceX?
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>>16487909
How hard is it to intercept these bad boys?
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>>16487951
that's kind of their job right
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>>16487954
so what do they ask?
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>>16487866
Never thought I'd see the day
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>>16487947
this is the kind of irresponsible vandalism that such rules are designed to prevent
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Chinese crewed moon landing hardware tests
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1859478790004670649
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https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1859628265666904572
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>>16487804
>>16487868
They don't dispute that a big missile was used, just the type. They say it was an IRBM. The Rubezh missile is a borderline IRBM/ICBM and can technically be considered an ICBM
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>>16487959
questions
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woosh
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>>16487974
comfy with no hosts repeating stuff
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>>16487979
sir, this is sfg - starship fans general
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3 engine rats now lol
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>>16487971
Soon
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Has china discovered the HD camera yet? Every time I see pictures or screenshots or in-orbit photos or lander photos or concept art it’s always some digital 480p slop
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stuck it
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another [adjective] landing
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>>16487987
>>16487988
hivemind
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>>16487966
kek
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>>16487787
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>>16487994
god
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>>16487892
there's multiple runtime bypasses for webms
there's an entire postage stamp sized copy of an evangelion episode that gets posted sometimes on /wsg/
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>>16487986
That's probably because it's been shared through Weibo and heavily compressed before it reaches this board
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>all the top basketball players will come from mars
earthcucks...
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>>16487760
>iterative testing is bad
>doing things the old fashioned way is good
This is why Empirical Method should be a required class to graduate from highschool.
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>>16487927
Yes it turns out cost plus was a reaction to the government not knowing their ass from their elbows and adding requirements late in the proces.s
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Muskrat is done
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>>16488015
>chrome
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>>16488015
lol
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>>16487986
Here are 12MB versions of some of the pics taken by Zhurong, although you need to register and log in to access them
https://clpds.bao.ac.cn/web/enmanager/kxsj?missionName=HX1&zhName=NaTeCam&grade=2C

Panoramic image:
https://moon.bao.ac.cn/www/plviewer/mars.html
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>>16488015
I just don't believe you, Jeffrem.
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>>16488015
i wonder who the person was at mar-a-lago that spread this rumour
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>>16488015
What is the relationship between Musk and Bezos like
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>>16488015
jeff bezos never lies
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>>16488033
love/hate, i ship them
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>>16488033
Bezos owns Blue Origin, Amazon has an 18% stake in Rivian, and Amazon wants to launch the Kuiper competitor to Starlink, so we can reasonably guess what the Bezos-Musk relationship is like
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https://www.anduril.com/article/anduril-awarded-program-of-record-space-surveillance-network/
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This is the future muskrats want.
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>>16488044
explain this program. i thought they made aircraft drones, not satellites.
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>>16487971
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>>16488015
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I hope NG sticks the landing first try just to shove it in /sfg/'s face
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>>16488051
It's so sad seeing all this, knowing they're going to build a shuttle copy and waste all the money on it for fifty years
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>>16488055
>shuttle copy
???
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Lijian-2 fairing separation test
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>>16488055
don't worry, at the end of that period, a chinese autistic billionaire will show up and disrupt the entire industry.
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>>16488054
inb4 the New Glenn first stage oopsies during its static fire, taking the second stage and pad with it
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>>16488059
Actually this is the separation test
seems a bit wobbly
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>blue origin was founded on september 8, 2000.
>more than 24 years later, it still hasn't reached orbit
don't worry gradatim bros, just 25 more years
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>>16488048
its software
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>>16488064
new glenn is going to mog starship
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>>16488063
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>>16487971
>>16488051
Maybe if they get there before the US things could happen like in For All Mankind
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>>16488067
>new glenn
paper rocket, doesn't exist
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>>16488063
fairings can have a little wobble, as a treat
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>>16488015
1) it's true and this is denial
2) it's false and musk is either lying or has false information fed
3) it's mixed, couple be a minor opinion (if Trump loses , you have to sell) rather than strong (Trump will lose, you have to sell)
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>>16488048
>>16488044
They follow the SpaceX playbook where the foundational layer is software and everything is built on top of it. Traditional entities in space do the opposite, in that they build the hardware first and worry about the software after or outsource it to a subprime to handle it. This makes the capabilities specialized, but lack any flexibility to evolve and tends to require a redesign on a contracted basis. SpaceX, Anduril, couple software and hardware at its source, so that changes in hardware informed by physics, will feedback into the software layer and in turn drive innovation to allow new options downstream of its development pipelines.

It's what has allowed them to accelerate and disrupt spaces that have been otherwise strangeheld and stagnant.
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>>16488066
>software
ah, so its a scam
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>>16488063
The tighter the taper at the bottom, the stiffer it is, and less wobbly it is. This is fine. Look at Ariane's fairings if you want an extreme example
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>>16488070
a paper rocket with flight hardware?
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>>16488076
retard alert
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>>16488068
no nose?
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>>16487952
Very, multiple re-entry vehicles each with multiple warheads makes the job 100x harder, THAAD is the only system that might stand a chance afaik.
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>>16488069
Nah, this is Apollo level tech with modern safety margins included, their missions are only set to past 3 days and have nowhere near the amount of payload/consumables that HLS can bring. They'd have to bankrupt themselves to catch up 10-20yrs of progress in the next 4yrs.
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>>16488082
brilliant pebbles destroys them all while they're still inside of the missile. one shot, dozens intercepted.
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>>16488081
Ram jet intake
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>>16488085
>Apollo level tech
LM10 shares a supply chain with other rockets like LM10A and LM12, which should make it a lot cheaper than a bespoke rocket like Apollo's S5. Likewise, the Mengzhou capsule has a LEO variant. LM10 also shares a pad with LM10A. So at least they should be able to launch more times than Apollo did, without breaking the bank.

>catch up 10-20yrs of progress in the next 4yrs.
LM9 schedule was moved left to NET 2030, and that rocket could probably be used to deliver about 50t of cargo to the moon. The full reuse variant is now NET 2033-2035. So it might be less than 10 years rather than 20 years
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>>16488092
>LM10 shares a supply chain with paper rockets
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>>16488015
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859483544612913376
I'm saving this.
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Elon is literally Hitler
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>>16488094
100% not true implies that Elon is lying about the rumors being spread, not just that the rumors aren't true.
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>>16488096
[math]\unicode{x1F464}[/math] Readers added context they thought people might want to know
Elon Musk is his own person, and Hitler has been dead for several decades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
Do you find this helpful? (Rate it)
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>>16488098
Your attempt to wordsmith outs you.
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>>16487823
haha they made it silly as a joke
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>>16488015
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859644231394218321
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>>16488104
lol
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>>16488074
impressive buzzwording, if you aren't making 6 figures you should be
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>>16488095
Teach the controversy
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>>16488104
:)
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>>16488093
LM10 and LM10A first stage is mostly common, and was statically test fired with three engines in June, which you can see in this video
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1801645494902657187

LM12 first launch is probably only a few months away. It was supposed to be launched this year. They rolled out a pathfinder in July in to the newly built pad.
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>>16488100
>>16488107
>/sfg/ can't read
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>>16488111
CZ12 launch is NET November 30th, NOTAM is out and Wenchang space center is selling viewing spot tickets.

Also watch out for Zhuque 2E maiden launch next Wednesday.
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>16488099
did 4chan really add emoj*s? It's fucking over bros...
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>>16488085
>They'd have to bankrupt themselves to catch up 10-20yrs of progress in the next 4yrs.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, the chinese will catch up faster than you think possible.
It didn't take them 100 years to catch up on electric cars.
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>>16488074
The way that this is written and the word choice makes me want to throw you into a thresher, but it is correct.
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>>16488125
bro is mad [math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math]
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>>16488125
newfag
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Outta my way rocket fuckin shits

https://youtu.be/afLsRsd5roY&t=45m00s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bjfMc3RaZk
>Starship Flight 6 Analysis + Pre-Launch Flyover!
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>>16487994
this is very cute. Please keep posting
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>>16488067
not with a payload of 45 tons it's not
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>>16488015
Who the fuck is Elon Mu?
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>>16488146
more than starship
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heh
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>>16488138
Based
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>>16488149
Get a grip
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>>16488153
How does it fly when it isn't near a planet?
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>>16488156
Magnetic universe theory is true.
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>>16488156
You better get your trajectory correct or you're floating in space forever.
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>>16488158
so the same as rockets?
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>>16487736
Can anyone explain to what subdwarf stars are? It's almost feels like some basedentist made them up to keep his job. Also will all the galaxies in the virgo cluster fuse eventually and create a bigger galaxy than the largest one we know of yet(ESO 383-76)? Also also what's the largest/most massive galaxy cluster(NOT supercluster) known?
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>>16488131
many such cases
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>>16488156
>A galactic magnetic field is a natural magnetic field that exists in galaxies, such as the Milky Way
dumb Earthling
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>>16488162
>A galactic magnetic field
A what
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>>16487793
Thank me later. Yes there is a fully nude one
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>>16488150
lol
just testing suborbitals, israel, dont be mad :)
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>>16488167
>Yes there is a fully nude one
proof?
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>>16488167
Spinhab anime girls?
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>>16488167
why don't you fuck off to the anime section of this website. There you can jerk off to cartoon in all your degeneracy
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>>16488179
callisto is so pretty this time of year
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>>16488153
If it's really this simple why hasn't someone made a flying saucer in their garage?
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>>16488184
I have but I can't post it here for ITAR reasons
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>>16488153
Isn't there some hardcore theorem that debunks magnetic levitation
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>>16488179
why don't you fuck off to reddit? There you can be a retarded nigger in all your stupidity
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>>16488190
Different anon here. You should definitely consider fucking off. Consider it your greatest contribution to humanity.
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>>16488190
stop posting unrelated degenerate art
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I see anti-anime Jihad is back on the menu
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>>16488192
>>16488193
likewise, sperg
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>>16488179
anime? it's not an animation. it's actually an artistic represention of an O'Neil Cylinder as a fit, big-breasted woman. Check this out
https://x.com/MRMELT4/status/1792302506325754029
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859667589817041394
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>>16488167
nice
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>>16488196
it's one guy. It's always the same one guy
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>>16488197
u got a link to the original for that one too?
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>>16488199
Do they still have those sheilds between all the engines?
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>>16488202
https://x.com/MRMELT4/status/1845592485277405192
it's better with the censor.....
>>16488198
damn this guy couldn't draw aesthetic nipples to save his life
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>>16488205
his DMs are open. you can teach him
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>>16488204
yes
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>>16488209
So when are we removing those?
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>>16488207
He's also in this thread right now
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>>16488125
Newfag from /pol/ doesnt know about our technology. Go back >>>/pol/
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>>16488212
raptor 3
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>>16488215
He should know that it's hard to ID random anime girls as personifications of spacecrafts/rockets if they're not wearing anything, which kind of defeats the purpose.
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>>16488218
Because raptor 3 doesn't explode?
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>>16488215
draw N1-chan next
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>>16488220
because raptor 3 doesn't need heatshielding
and I guess the failure/explosion of a raptor 3 won't lead to a cascading failure, not really sure
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Egyptian architecture > Roman architecture
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>>16488199
>reliability
I doubt a starship would be allowed to land if even one of the engines got fucked. If they considered a slightly bent antenna enough of a hazard to scrap the catch, then you can bet your ass they wouldn't risk it with an engine. Definitely not if it's one of the inner ones.
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>>16488222
gay ass k*rolev rocket
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>>16488230
Keep it spaceflight related
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>>16488158
Ah, the Nomai technique.
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>>16488067
new glenn exists but it isn't a spacecraft
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>>16488174
that hab can spin on muy dick!
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How come the architecture build by spacefairing creatures is superior to the architecture us landlocked humans built in Rome?
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Any notable JUICE, Europa Clipper, Dragonfly updates?
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Why not just use mercury plasma tech for space travel?
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>>16488236
There's no space, night and day can't happen at the same time.
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Just realized that every nightfall is a solar eclipse
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>>16488245
>Dragonfly updates
Apparently NASA is refocusing to a Starship based design philosophy. They're setting up a production line to manufacture ~200 dragonflies that will all be shoved into the same Starship. None are visiting the lakes
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>>16488251
>oh no it's retarded
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musk browses and posts in /sfg/
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>>16488266
it's true but your pic is not evidence of that.
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>>16488266
Pisses in an ocean of piss
N I G G E R
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>>16487884
>F9 was the first reusable rocket, then you are going to have Starship, New Glenn and after that 3-4 chinese companies [before you see more western reusable rockets like Neutron, Nova, Terran R]
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/as-nasa-increasingly-relies-on-commercial-space-there-are-some-troubling-signs/
New Berger…
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>>16488278
nigga read >>16487891
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>>16488278
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/11/ulas-vulcan-may-forfeit-planned-space-force-launches-this-year/

another big L for ULA
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>>16488280
Nobody is reading massive wall of text posts to character limit retard. If you want people to read, you link the article and image for them first then put highlights in replies. Dont coddle anons like theyre children, let them explore articles themselves.
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https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1859668771348283483

thread comparing different official HLS renders
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>>16488284
Hhhhheeeeeyyyyyy, that's looks awfully familiar.
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>>16488284
welcome back skylon
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How many FFSC MOX engines does China have in development now? I know of CASC's YF-215, Landspace's BF-20, and JZYJ's FY-100/200. Are there any more?

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1858719132566647119
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>>16488284
Damn I was right >>16488055
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>>16488167
Pubes?
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Church of Humanity Ascendant
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>>16488284
lol, would be really fucked up if skylon plans where stolen by the chinks and they succeed at building it while the bongs ran out of money and gave up.
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oops heehee
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When will the first cathedral be built on Mars? I'm thinking no later than 2045
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>>16488322
It takes longer than 21 years to build a cathedral on earth
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anyone got a collection of these aerospace pics and shit in a cloud drive
they're kino
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>>16488322
The first 10 mars missions will not end well.
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>>16488326
although not reaally a cathedral, here is an example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia
>Barcelona Church Under Construction for 142 Years
>to be completed in 2026
the SLS of churches
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>>16488326
it should be a steel tower that is 3km tall and 9km wide
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https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1859668771348283483
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>>16488326
If you went with mostly standard bricks and went all cast stone, you could have rapidly additive manufactured molds for the more complex stuff and have it built in the same time as any brick building. Also you could go smaller.
>>16488330
Elaborate.
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>>16487840
i want a new stargate series set in the 2040s where colonists find a gate on mars and instead of air force its space force
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>>16488296
Ispace/interstellar glory too
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>>16488153
It's electro static propulsion, not magnetism, its the canceling out of inertia
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>>16488338
No, amazon is doing a reboot of stargate now that they own the IP.
And they will fuck it in to the ground with woke girlbosses.
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>>16488001
i am fundamentally against postage stamp sized motion pictures and thats my final word on the matter.
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>>16488339
https://www.qixin.com/operation/b891d24f-6cb9-41a2-bacc-0e2d17fabcfe?section=technologicalAlls&tab=history

Original link, use google translate if it doesn't open
They made the Hyperbola 1 solid launher (which has an Astra-tier success rate), the Hyperbola 2 methalox hopper, JD-1 and JD-2 Open cycle methalox (15 and 100t thrust) and are workingon the Hyperbola 3 reusable medium lift launcher
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>>16488344
oh boy i cant wait to see blue origin everywhere in the show
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>>16488344
No it'll be great! Bezos loves space!
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>>16487736
If sls gets cancelled that's gonna make the artemis lego set look even more stupid than it already is.
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>>16488355
Who cares I had Constellation program posters in my room growing up
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>>16488344
so bezos just likes to buy rights to beloved book/tv franchises and make them gay
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>>16488357
His son told him not to mess up LotR
I guess he doesn’t like listening to his family lol
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>>16488355
value will go up
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>>16488357
The expanse was already pretty gay before bezos became involved.
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heat tiles only for cargo bay and flaps
no heatshields on metalox tanks
screencap this
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Launch_System
Behold! the National Launch System. A Shuttle-derived launcher, designed to be affordable, efficient, and cheap, using existing technology. This rocket will be built across all 50 states, and will enable the US to go back to the Moon, and one day, to Mars. It began development in 1991 and... wait a moment.
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>>16488372
if sls started 10 years later it would've just used falcon heavy
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>>16488138
>>16488153

https://x.com/AlansMicheal/status/1857035452865237457
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the colors on these are completely fucked
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>>16488387
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1859716672623624586/photo/3

>>16488399
HAWT
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>>16488399
toasty
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>>16488400
we're getting the chrome sci-fi future we were promised bros
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>>16488372
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https://x.com/RepKiley/status/1859679860106613200

total FAA death
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>>16488409
>SPACE transportation
>Federal AVIATION Administration
The FAA, literally by definition, is NOT SPACEFLIGHT
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>>16488409
w-wait this is a big happening, isn't it??
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>>16488389
absolute madlad
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>>16488409
OCST is 1 letter away from being a cool acronym
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>>16488409
Basado
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>>16488411
This is why you put your cylinders inside a space rock
>>16488413
Yes
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>>16488387
that they have constant live VIDEO during reentry is amazing. if it can do that when coming in from the moon, well.....no more 6 minute black outs waiting to see if anyone survived.
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>>16488344
Amazon already did that years ago with Catherine as the lead. I don't think they have any more plans after it flopped hard
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>>16488411
Robo waifus and artificial wombs render biocunts obsolete. The future is all male and it's going to be amazing.
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>>16488409
>the entire continent of europe had fewer launches this year than spacex in the last 48 hours
eurobros.... it's over.....
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>>16488409
We are going to rule the solar system
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>>16488284
If the Chinese stole the pre-cooler tech then RE deserved bankruptcy
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>>16488420
Sounds kinda gay. Just don't let them have rights on Mars and you're good
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>>16488409
HABBENING?
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>>16488409
Only qualms is that I dont trust the Congressional control over SpaceX either. Its trading one regulation for another. I get the pretty words, but I dont trust words.
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>>16488419
The rumor going around now is that amazon wants to do a new stargate series.
The writers of SG1&SGA pitched a new series that would tie in to the older series.
But amazon made clear that they want a reboot.
But again, rumors, take it as it is.

And for the anons who want to report me for talking about a scfi show on /sfg/, lurk longer before you do something stupid.
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>>16488322
>>16488337
The first cathedral will be carved into the martian stone
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>>16488415
they should make a Bureau for Accelerating Space Exploration and Development
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>>16488438
BFASEAD
uhh, okay?
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>>16487746
That poster knows retards will reply without hitting the play button
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>>16488438
actually would be based

CAPTCHA: SAYG0
lol
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Nooglin is verticaaal
Nooglin is willlddd
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>>16488059
*pomf* what are we going to do on the bed?
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>>16488167
can I get one without man abs and cock thanks
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did they say yet why the catch was canceled?
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>>16488455
No! You Vill fap to woman(male) und you Vill enjoy it!!!
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>>16488455
Yeah honestly what the fuck is up with that
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>>16488456
yeah
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>>16488460
what was the reason?
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>>16488285
>I don't read too much into it, but with how close that back one is landed to the base, I hope they are hinting at a permanent base variant.

permanently based
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odds of the area in the red circle ever being occupied by spacex? now that trump won, the gorillion environmental agencies can just fuck off. if they have the goal of eventually churning out one starship every 8 hours, then they are going to need a lot of space, even if they have multiple sites across the US. 50/50 anons, abstain from replying.
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>>16488333
>SN - 042 - A

SN - 033 - D was actually possible...we didn't make it bros
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BONG
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>>16488462
I don't remember
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>>16488464
I'd say about 1/2 of it happemnign
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>>16488467
what is that
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>>16488463
leaving it vertical would be bad for access and radiation protection
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>>16488430
I would have to see who controls the office. For all we know they might fold it into NASA or Space Force, or rebrand it as its own thing. The real problem is getting the FAA to not drag their heels on NOTAMS and shit. Since they explicitly control that, and even if they don't have the capability to outright deny a launch license anymore, they can slow roll launches by not doing their function that enables the launches.
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>>16488455
Faggot, she doesn't need a cock
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>>16488472
I don't know why, but this general hates the idea of wet workshops.
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>>16488464
Starbase is only there to create starship and perfect the process.
When that is done it will all move to cape canaveral.
Starbase will have it's role, but the USgov&nasa will demand that cape canaveral is the major US spaceport.
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>>16488285
What does he mean by "Enterprise"?
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it has red and green navigation lights on it I am cumming
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>>16488475
>she



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