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BEFF- edition

previous >>16552111
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Good morning, /sfg/!

When's the next launch?
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When Flight 8?
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Elon sisters... its over. I'm a blue original now
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>>16553759
two more weeks
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Stop wasting time and money on Starship. Just adapt a bunch of Soyuz rockets to refuel on orbit and send that to Mars.
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>>16553756
two weeks
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1880265801497997422
>A look at Booster 14 and the launch mount this morning.
>1/17/25
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>>16553773
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>>16553771
i'm gonna paint that cute face white
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>>16553774
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>>16553777
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uh
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crispy
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I'm glad this stupid gay rocket blew up, do something beautiful like write poetry you fucking nerds.
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>>16553779
>oh no, a wrap around a piece of steel delaminated due to fucking rocket engines braaaaping directly onto it
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>booster caught
>point to point tested
I'm calling it a success
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>>16553783
Writing poetry is no longer a human activity.

Beneath the stars, a vessel flies,
Its silent journey, cold and stark.
A burst of light ignites the skies,
Its shards descend, a fleeting spark.
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Why need big ground rocket if small rocket already reusable? Assemble big rocket in space.
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>>16553788
Total kitsch yawnfest.
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>>16553752
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>>16553783
>There was a man named Musk
>His antics caused a fuss
>One day, his rocket got too hot
>There laid its corpse, left out to rot
>Musk was sad
>Musk was mad
>For now he knew
>Jeff was the real Chad
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>>16553773
the whole stand is buckling and bending. everything is failing
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>dragonfly is still 9 years away
I can't fucking wait that long, wtf. I'll be fucking 31.
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>>16553783
Beneath the veil of heaven’s gleaming fire,
Where titans duel with ambition’s desire,
Two forces rise, their pact unspoken,
To claim the heavens, their bond now broken.

SpaceX, the daring, bold pioneer,
Flames of methane its engines sear.
Raptor’s roar, a metallic hymn,
In stainless steel, its future swims.
Starship’s wings, both cheap and swift,
Payloads mount in a fiery lift.
Reusable dreams, their credo clear:
To Mars, to stars, beyond frontier.

ULA, the steadfast, ancient guard,
Cautious steps through space unmarred.
Atlas and Delta, heritage proud,
The safety of systems—an oath they’ve vowed.
Cryogenic dance in hydrogen’s grace,
A timeless engine, a measured pace.
Vulcan looms, its promise near,
A phoenix reborn with no need for fear.

Yet as they clash in cosmic lore,
The Devil smiles, for both implore:
"Grant us the skies, the secrets above,
We’ll pay the price for dreams we love."

SpaceX, with recklessness its lover’s creed,
Hastens to worlds with unbridled speed.
But will their flames, so fiercely bold,
Burn too bright to grasp the gold?

ULA, in caution, holds its ground,
Innovation whispers, yet silence resounds.
Will time outpace their measured tread,
While rivals soar, their ambitions fed?

And there in shadow, between the stars,
A Faustian pact leaves its scars.
For every rocket that scrapes the black,
Carries whispers of what it lacks.
Economy’s siren, technology’s muse,
A soul for progress—what will they choose?

The cosmos watches, its judgment still,
As titans wrestle, bend their will.
One aims to leap, one aims to stand,
Each forging a future, hand in hand.
Yet in this duel, as rockets soar,
Which dream fulfills, and which implores?

So, heed this tale, oh mortal wise,
For bargains struck beneath the skies,
May build the heavens, or spark the flame,
That burns the stars in endless shame.
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>>16553808
kino, thank you chatgpt
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>>16553771
drip god
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>four /sfg/ threads
Great job /sci/
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>>16553818
>Muskrats call this a success lol
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>>16553827
Let's see Jeff's gigantic cloud of burning debris
spoiler: we won't because he's a coward
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OK /SFG/ NOW THAT YOU'VE SLEPT ON IT
>How bad was flight 7?
NO SUGARCOATING IT
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>>16553818
very safe, very cool
we're ready to launch again in 3 weeks but the damn FAA purposefully delays our mission
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>Me watching starship debris field from my plane (we are all about to die in a fiery impact)
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>>16553818
kino af tbf
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>>16553832
it was the ULA sniper
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>>16553831
booster ok
ship not ok
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>>16553826
And all of them suck ass.
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>>16553829
You think Musky boy uploaded those clips himself? SpaceX cut their feed as soon as engines stopped. No one captured a New Glenn inferno blanketing the Caribbean because there wasn't one. The Blue Origin mission was an overwhelming success.
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>>16553831
keine problemen cameraden, yah yah zee rocket go boom, is no problem. next we make another one al is ok yah.
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>>16553844
once they go up, who cares where they come down? not my department ja?
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>>16553842
they failed to land nigga
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>>16553827
All I see is the arrival of a starship armada returning from Mars. What's the issue?
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>Super Heavy Booster 14 was lowered onto the launch mount yesterday evening following its catch and landing back at Starbase during Starship Flight 7. Can't wait to see what this colorful stainless steel patina looks like after dozens of flights per booster.
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>>16553808
that better be grok
gotta support daddy musk
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>>16553852
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>>16553854
reusabilitysisters... I don't feel so good.
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>>16553856
lol guys shoving chunks of stainless into junk yard cars for clicks now?
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>>16553846
i only vant to go to speece
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image with the new Chinese rockets that are planned to have a first launch in 2025
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>>16553857
yeah seems like a scam lol
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>>16553859
Are 8 if them reusable?
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>>16553855
thats just seasoning. like in a well used coffee mug
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>>16553854
that does NOT look reusable at all
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>And then they said we'll have 25 launches this year
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>only 4 /sfg/ threads in catalog
rookie numbers
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>Tells the FAA to fuck off starting Monday

The meme of "LE FAA WILL STOP ELON AND DRUMPF" is fucking retarded. Elon IS now part of the US GOVT, he can do whatever he wants starting Monday.
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>>16553865
2 weeks till next launch
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>>16553857
It will be funny if the fatal flaw in the stainless steel design is that now every person in the Caribbean can throw some scrap metal through their window and sue Musk.
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>>16553859
they all look reminiscent of another rocket but I can't quite put my finger on why
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>>16553872
you can identify steel
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>>16553869
Trump always leaves his allies out to hang. FAA is gonna crucify Elon and Trump won't do shit.
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>>16553752
>prostate cancer edition
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>>16553842
>No one captured a New Glenn inferno blanketing the Caribbean because
Nobody was around to care
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>>16553875
>FAA is gonna crucify Elon and Trump won't do shit.

This time for sure, right?
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>>16553869
Elon will be out of Trump's favor by February
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>>16553881
You dorks already failed to decouple them, and the attempt has been noted.
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>>16553869
>MAGA AI editing trump to not look like an 80+ year old man
Peak irony.
And no, elon is fucked, FAA can't let a huge publicly visible mess like this go. AT BEST 2 months to next launch. At worst 6 months.
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>>16553883
>AI
Zoomers don't know it's possible to do this with photoshop.
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>>16553883
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880285306353754575

you sure about that?
FAA needs to be deleted so America doesn't go bankrupt
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>>16553862
9 of them are intended to be reusable (not necessarily from the beginning)
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>>16553885
HOLY SHIT!!!! O M FUCKING G. A HECKING ELON MUSK TWEETY????? THAT HECKING WON THE INTERNET!!!! DOGE TO THE MOON ROFL!!!! *Holds up spork*
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>>16553887
malding and seething lmao
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>>16553885
>Prints own currency
>Currency is the global standard
>Somehow going bankrupt
Just more proof Elon is a retard when outside his wheel house.
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>>16553889
Wanna bet on if we get a starship launch in the next month? I'll give you 2:1 odds.
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>>16553890
currency is the global standard right now
that isn't some divine law and the global standard currency has changed every now and then
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WAOW
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>>16553892
you are moving the goalposts and deflecting
pathetic
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>>16553894
that's crazy, just the size of it
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This general is half elon and half bezo bots.
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>>16553784
>>16553787
cope retarded pajeet
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>>16553857
>>16553861
cope retarded pajeet
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>>16553901
>>16553902
cope retarded pajeet
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>>16553901
>>16553902
projection
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https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1880294916288315576
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>Engineers are inspecting Booster 14 and the chopsticks this morning.
>1/17/25
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>>16553908
Wow.... This is truly the blue origin.
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>>16553908
why is it so much bluer than starships plume?
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>>16553752
How much delta v would a Starship with 100 tonns payload have that jettisoned 5 engines and its mainframe?
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>>16553752
The weak should fear the strong
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>>16553914
They are running oxygen rich.
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>>16553914
blue LED's
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>>16553912
oh, so that's why they call it that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mYLi3PGOc
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https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1880029118080942296
>WEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeee....... so thats how you turn $300 mn of taxpayers money into wreckage in less time that it takes to eat a pizza!!!! Truly Musk has made government efficient!
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thunderchads eatin good
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Bros... that shit looked like armagedon
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>>16553783
That's no way to speak of Jeff's rocket.
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>>16553929
it was just the first test of the Earth Glassing Project. demigod war anon was right
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>>16553925
>thunderf00t
he got shills so mad
https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1879873143055282684

Payloads to Orbit:
Starship 0 : New Glenn 1

Launches
Starship 7 : New Glenn 1

Payload success
Starship 0%: New Glenn 100%

now takin bets how many more launches before starship actually launches a payload? 5? 7? 20?
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>>16553925
he is such a disingenuous faggot its unreal
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>>16553925
>starship flight 7 cost $300 million
any source on that figure? or did he pull that number out of his ass?
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>>16553935
his source is that he doesn't understand marginal costs.
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https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1880301559269192006
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>>16553933
>>16553935
>>16553937
cope pajeet
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>>16553932
>Unironically shilling for Blue Origin now
why am I not surprised?
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God I wish we could just ban the second and third world from the internet.
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>>16553940
one rocket works one doesn't
>shills mad
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>booster successfully caught in mid air for the second time
>overshadowed by loss of Starship

sadge
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>>16553938
for all the cameras they didn't have on the booster or gs2 their pad cams are way better than starship
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>>16553942
>ban the second and third world
so ban the USA
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>>16553936
We cannot let the "you can pollute space"/"space pollution" mindset/narrative take hold in leftist circles, it must be ridiculed at all times
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>In a 2024 response to a lawsuit, SpaceX stated that the cost of the Starship program was approximately $4 million per day
I'm pretty sure starbase development is most of that cost
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>>16553949
The first world: The Western World and its allies.
The second world: The Communist Aligned block.
The third world: the neutral parties.
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>>16553942
cool, I agree
>2nd world: venusians
>3rd world: urfers
>4th world: martian chads
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>>16553945
>booster successfully caught in mid air for the second time
completely pointless thing that shills hang onto
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>>16553954
cope, its the engineering feat of the decade
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>>16553859
cgi launch?
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huh, did BO really expect to land first try
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>>16553940
Faggots know that posting dumb shit generates guaranteed (you)s, that's the reason.
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>>16553937
He still doesn't understand, or pretends to not understand, that the HLS contract is for services rendered and SpaceX hasn't gotten that money yet because they haven't hit most of the milestones.

But he's very smart! Muh chemistry degree.
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>>16553958
Dosent matter when building rockets take them longer than a FAA investigation.
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>>16553910
I knew that the fins are big but it still fucks with my head whenever we get a human for scale
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>still no life signal from sponge anon
he overslept to death, didn't he
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>>16553938
nice
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>>16553965
kek
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>>16553936
pic needs a few spread eagled women as well, trying to catch his billionaire demon seed
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>>16553948
this is next level intellectual discussion
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>>16553942
Why do you want to ban americans so nuch?
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>>16553925
>in less time that it takes to eat a pizza!!!
He clearly never saw me a scarf down a pizza. What a fucking moron.
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>>16553925
I think Thunderf00t will be unemployed again when the US govt money spiget to his Czech academic employer gets unceremoniously turned off.
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>>16553852
I can't fucking stop seeing Longcat on that thumbnail, it's even the exact same orientation and size
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>>16553955
>cope, its the engineering feat of the decade
if you are a retard or pajeet which is the same
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>>16553975
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>>16553976
>pajeet
It's just jeet now sweaty.
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>>16553855
>>16553864
newfags
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>uses 33 extremely overengineered engines with super complex cycle that is pushing material limits
>wants rapid reusability out of it
the whole things gonna blow up upon ignition isn't it?
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>>16553983
Wrong, launchpad won't be able to support rapid reusability
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>>16553981
Prove they reflew that rocket.
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>“The FAA is requiring SpaceX to perform a mishap investigation into the loss of the Starship vehicle during launch operations on Jan. 16. There are no reports of public injury, and the FAA is working with SpaceX and appropriate authorities to confirm reports of public property damage on Turks and Caicos.
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Someone managed to get a good shot of the explosion. It looks like the engines were still running at the time.
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>>16553988
And there goes that February launch promise. Scammer Musk scams again.
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>>16553986
thats why you need extra launch pads
just have
20 launch pads and have people refurbishing them constantly
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>>16553988
source? I can't find this anywhere
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>>16553988
Did people really expect otherwise
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>>16553988
Since Anon didn't provide a source: https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1880311303941812284
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>>16553991
You have to do environmental studies whenever a launch pad is damaged.
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>>16553995
Your source doesn't provide a source
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>>16553988
*ahem*
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>>16553988
>>16553995
>During the event, the FAA activated a Debris Response Area and briefly slowed aircraft outside the area where space vehicle debris was falling or stopped aircraft at their departure location. Several aircraft requested to divert due to low fuel levels while holding outside impacted areas."
it's so fucking over
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>>16553988
why does the FAA cares about what happens over british territories?
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I live in Turks and Caicos and some small debris landed on Providenciales and South Caicos. It felt like an earthquake in my office as it was flying overhead and you could hear what I assumed were sonic booms. I’m sure more debris will turn up today as it was almost nightfall.
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>>16553998
please save me donald trump
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Elon fucked up by admitting they didn't "double check" for fuel leaks. If FAA determines quality control has a root cause, they will ground all of SpaceX operations, even Falcon.
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>>16553988
>>16553999
nothingburger
1-2 months and the investigation will be finished
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>>16554005
If that's true, they will execute elon on the spot, no trial needed. Im not kidding, the law states no trial needed in that scenario
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>>16554006
>2 months
>nothingburger
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>>16554003
>sfg consists of 10 people
>one of them happens to be a Turks and Caicos islander
proof?
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>>16553856
rvac nozzle extension
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>>16554005
>government bureaucrats who have never built anything in their lives overseeing every aspect of what you work on and demanding you justify to them the things you do

execute them
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>>16554011
hes obviously trolling but yeah, this is the end of the US space program
China gets to claim to moon I guess
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>>16554006
Elon opened his stupid cock holster on X and admitted it was a QC check failure though. You ALWAYS say hardware failure and never say quality failure. Hardware can be replaced. QC failure means numerous audits on your whole quality system, reviewing mountains of documentation, retraining employees, revising SOPs, iterating with auditors, etc...
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>>16554010
They need roughly the same amount of time to prepare another stack.
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>>16554015
a starship literally flew over her house, memes become reality
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>>16554020
wrong
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>>16554013
>NOOO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST EXPLODE BILLIONS OF TAX PAYER DOLLARS OVER HEAVY AIR TRAFFIC AND NO ONE SHOULD ASK ANY QUESTIONS
Chinks, leave. We have safety standards in white countries.
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>>16554022
You're wrong.
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>>16554020
they could prepare a full stack in 2 weeks
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>>16554022
care to explain why?
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>>16554013
There's absolutely nothing wrong with forcing companies to do quality control
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>>16554015
>So who is supposed to pay for my car
The insurance company. Islanders are fucking retards.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos_Creole
what the fuck is this bullshit? why does every single tiny island in the Caribbean has their own creole language? how impractical that must be, what's next, every hut and house having their own dialect?
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>>16554028
The US should allow rocket companies to fly unregulated whenever they want. It's the only way we're seriously getting to Mars, otherwise China will plant a flag there first. Who cares if some Earthers get hurt in the process? Jesus, why won't you tourists leave already?
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>>16554015
Do they live on the moon?
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>>16554034
HLS DEMO WAS A SUCCESS! Thunderf00t GET STOP LOSING.
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>>16554033
based
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>>16554028
? It costs more and takes longer to do "quality control" than to do destructive testing
Is it spacex's fault that the whole air flight system uses 1940's era technology of talking on radio?
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>there are 4 sfg's on the catalogue right now
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>>16553973
As amusing it would be, it's not going to happen.
Jungwirth's group is a big deal at ÚOCHB and Phil has a very safe position.
And while I'm sure they got some grant from US at some point, US doesn't fund much of anything there.
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>there are 108 non-/sfg/ threads in the catalogue right now
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>>16554003
>>16554015
"simple folk" getting their 15 minutes
except now they have social media
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>>16553975
>>16553977
LongCatch
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>>16554003
> It felt like an earthquake in my office as it was flying overhead
shut up fag
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>>16554040
Air traffic control does seem extremely low tech. Like in ATA videos, you hear the controllers asking pilots for various instrument readouts. Why is that shit not automated?
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>>16554053
because when they try to update things you get boeing max situation
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>>16554034
>China and US in a space race to the moon
>When we get there, we find some Afro-Caribbean islander dicking around with his 1993 chevy shitbox.
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>>16554055
the boing max situation was because they were updating a 60's era plane trying to keep everything the same so that arbitrary retraining rules wouldn't apply

Literally another effect of regulation by bureaucrats
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>>16554003
Truly sorry that you lived (despite your story being a complete fabrication)
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https://x.com/i/status/1880026759133032662
>Are those...stars?!
Jesus Christ
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New Glenn failed to land because they mixed up imperial and metric.
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1879973565216194850
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>>16554064
were they?
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https://strawpoll.com/XOgOV4leQn3
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>>16554067
bro what
i write financial software and all conversions (think currency pairs, foreign stocks) are accounted for dynamically, how is this even possible?
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>>16554067
Welcome back MCO
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>>16554067
Well deserved for using utter retarded units not making any shred of sense in a modern era.
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>>16554053
ATC side moves slowly because it's governments and intragovernmental orgs that control the standards. Airliners and GA people want to move slowly because they don't want to do multiple expensive avionics upgrades in the lifespan of a plane.
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>>16554079
but enough about metric
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>>16554072
H1B software devs.
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>>16553951
How long has it gone on, like five years? I'll just go with five, that would put them at 7.3 billion so far
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>>16554067
>they mixed up imperial and metric.
how tf is this still a problem in current_year
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>>16554088
>>16554072
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>>16554088
it's not. Mr. TheSpace has no idea what he's talking about.
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>>16554088
Are we talking about the metric or Imperial year
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WTF!!! THE SHIP JUST CAME BACK TO STARBASE I SEE IT ON NSF STREAM IT IS STILL SMOKING WTF???? I CANT COMPREHENT IT
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>>16554098
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>>16554098
Yep turns out the debris we saw was just its aft flaps that detached, otherwise its fine and landed back at Masseys last night, Flight 8 soon!!!
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>>16554113
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>>16554115
these don't look warped at all to me
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>>16554115
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>>16554116
they all look beautifully round and proper
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>>16554116
Whomst claimed they were warped on ascent.
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>>16553855
You fucking faggots stop with xsisters shit. There's no women that even use sfg.
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>>16554136
I too am sick of that cringe shit, but anon won't stop now out of childish spite.
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pajeets on huge damage control

>but it caught the empty tube
>they are using one engine from the old one, it's so reusable
>the debris aren't real it was swamp gas
>it's ok elon lied about poe2
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>>16554136
sistersisters it's so over
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>>16554136
>>16554153
I heard elon banned sister on xitter
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>>16554032
It's just a fancy word for ebonics
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https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/general-statements
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>>16554079
skill issue
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>>16554165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTfEykjnbek
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NSF gets taken to class by gay spacex
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>>16554172
>y'all
Yeah I don't care what this woman 'engineer' has to say
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>>16554180
>sexist pig
Why am I not surprised
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>>16554180
Yankeefag detected
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>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! BLOWING UP THE ROCKET AND RAINING HELL-FIRE ON LIVE TV IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING
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>>16554183
>Why am I not surprised
Go back faggot
>>16554184
Nah I'm southern, but seeing y'all used by non southerners is some yankee soi fag shit trying to appeal to niggers
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>>16554196
well, now that they have found the maximum limit its just a matter of testing to 99% of that limit to find out how quickly it blows up again. rinse and repeat.
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>>16554200
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>>16554203
bridges =/= rockets
you can't put a 3x safety factor on a rocket if you want meaningful payload
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EDS seethe continues
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>>16554203
it makes sense
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>gwynne shotwell and peter beck are now billionaires
how long until media and normies start hating them
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Feels like testing the limits this time is just a cope
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This can never be allowed to happen again. Bring Elon Musk before congress, sanction his companies. Do whatever you can to ensure this cannot continue
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>>16554196
>>16554149
>>16554215
give it a break
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>>16554219
you just posted cringe
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>>16554203
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>>16554225
saved lol
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>>16554222
man I am so jealous of these cunts
How much do you think they'll sell the debris for?
probably a few hundred per tile, right?
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more and more debris...
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>>16553925
If it were up to me slime like him would be imprisoned in hard labor camps.
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bros even F9 is raining down debris
mission control at SpaceX, what are you guys doing?
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>>16554238
he is stuck in his own shitty youtube channel forever, so there is that. also, imagine being trapped in his mind. gah
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>>16554222
from the UAP?
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>>16554237
Hopefully someone does a new analysis to see if they improved anything
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>>16554222
>>16554237
imagine it raining free Starship merch. those lucky bastards
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>ape hybrids thought we would let them into "space" and leave their planet zoo
>they grug laugh at explosions

Why don't you knuckledraggers go back to your sports and sex/drugs/booze. You aren't allowed past the ice wall when will you learn?
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>>16554067
The US will lose the space race with China because they didn't convert to metric, lol
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how come when ULA's, Ariane's or Roscosmos's rockets blow up over the ocean nobody ever complains about pollution? Tory bruno must be laughing his ass off rn
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>>16554237
You just know its going to end up in a $200 little jar of crumbled tile material at some tourist flea market
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>>16554265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
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Comfy beach
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>>16554267
spacex is going to be paying billions in property damage for this. they'll probably move away from hardware rich testing and onto traditional testing where you dont launch until you know it has a very high chance of success.
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>>16553752
Now with this successful failure, Mars in in reach, what should be send in the first unmanned Mars mission in 2026?
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>>16554267
Grok… TUUUUAAAAHHHH!!!!!
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>>16554260
You want to know who lives East of French Guyana on an island? No one. There are no islands there.
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>>16554201
>70 degrees at starbase
>mfers dressed up like its snowing outside
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if elon didn't have to follow any government rules, how often could starship be launched?
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>>16554267
Was boca chica a mistake? They will always have to worry about this due to launching near populated areas, unlike launching at the atlantic
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>>16554275
Why isn't SpaceX launching from California westwards??? there is no one.
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>>16554279
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>>16554278
>cape is bad because it can drop debris over people during reentry
>boca chica is bad because it can drop debris over people during ascend
I don't think there's a better option really
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>>16554287
they should make it a mission requirement that vehicles are not to explode or break up during ascent and descent
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All the Russians and Chinese at Puerto Rico and Turks and Caicos collectan' debris
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>>16554287
retvrn to kwajalein
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yjk chinese are scrambling to scoop up as much debris as they can
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>>16554277
you're about to find out!
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>>16554284
Two of those engines didn't look happy.
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>>16554067
Dear Mr. Bezos (United States),

I am very regretful that a software glitch with metric unit conversion has caused you inconvenience. I may assure that this issue is escalated to development team. Thank you so much for patient understanding. Ticket closed.
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Raptor 3 will fix this.
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>>16554300
you some kind of engine whisperer now or something?
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>>16553988
It's over.
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>>16554309
toy rocket
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Is the Expanse a good watch? I like the aesthetics of it and the style of the ships. I like that they aren't your boring sci-fi ships but more grounded designs. Is it woke?
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>>16554306
>VSVN
what?
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>>16554313
do yourself a favor and never watch any television.
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>>16554313
Its fucking booooooooring.

For All Mankind, Mars, and Andor are the only 3 /sfg/ approved tv shows.
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>>16554313
Watch Lost instead, it includes suborbital flights.
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>>16554320
Is it a Starship documentary?
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>>16554313
best space scifi show in since bsg / stargate. andor was boring aside from the set design i guess. first two seasons of for all mankind are a decent watch though.
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>>16554321
>Is it a Starship documentary?
Yes.
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>>16554319
>For All Mankind
They have a pajeet version of Elon
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>>16554322
>first two seasons of for all mankind are a decent watch though.
yeah. season 3 gradually had less and less space stuff into while season 4 was basically a communist union dispute in a confined area
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>>16554313
Read the books, nigga.
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>>16554228
Broken hunk of shit tiles go for hundreds. A beauty like that will go for thousands
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>>16554326
Dude was honestly a good character. Him taking back the company and doing his pirate special ops was kino. Last season was quite nice after the shitshow that was the one before it, felt like how it was in season 1. Toned down the wokeshit by a lot, and interesting events overall.
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>>16554313
three words: gay space magic
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>>16554316
I haven't watched any shows since Andor but I'm getting the itch for some space slop for inspiration.
>>16554319
>>16554322
Isn't For All Mankind the one where the nigga says "it's good to be black on the Moon"? If I watched that I would punch a hole through my screen.
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>>16554313
it has some interesting moments, but gets pretty shit at times with a good episode or scene here and there
the last season is also super rushed
but overall idk
its not great but I would probably recommend it to someone into the genre
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>>16554313
up till season 3 then amos hard carries the show.
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This very part in the Expanse was kino as fuck
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the fact that BO still has Karman line on an orbital flight is kinda cringe. It was always cringe for New Shepard, but no need to carry over to an orbital rocket.
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>>16554375
probably just a lazily reused asset
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>>16554375
They are still selling tickets for New Shepard so that's gonna stay. At least they shoehorn it in the webcast, or did they?
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>>16554287
>>boca chica is bad because it can drop debris over people during ascend
There's literally no one out there to drop it on. It would have to literally veer miles off course to the northwest for any chance of debris hitting SPI or Port Isabel or Brownsvile.
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Can we please flip the gridfins down on starship now? what did they save, 2 weeks of development time by not folding them?
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>>16554391
starship has no gridfins
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>>16554332
The last season was the dumbest one. Earth wouldn't let people just steal their giant space rock and get away with it. Earth would launch a bunch of rockets at the Mars colony and blow it up, then just take the rock.
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>>16554394
shut up nigger
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>>16553818
You dont need to use webms anymore, mp4 is fine
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>>16554272
something gay like more flying things
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is the sucess of new glenn stressing elon to the point that it's making him beef with dysgenic e-celebs?
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Is solid fuel a better choice for refueling? You can just leave it up there as long as it's stored properly.
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>>16554401
you can do that with liquid fuels too...
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>elon never came to /sfg/ on a tripcode to argue with retards
Who do we blame for this?
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>>16554403
we only have ourselves to blame for being unworthy
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>>16554400
>liberals hate xitter now
>liberals hate tesla now
>liberals hate spacex now
>dumped by trump
>new glenn works
it's all downhill from here
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new glenn competes with f9
not with starship
they'll never do more than a dozen launches a year
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>>16554403
Grok tuah!
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>>16554401
since a solid rocket booster can't be modulated it's perhaps a good choice for accelerating mars missions but not for earth-moon dynamics
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>SpaceX only exists because they keep handing out government money to them
>well no here's a breakdown of their revenue
>why are you such an Elon fanboy
Strange conversation that keeps happening online, at this point it's like trying to talk with someone saying the moon landings were fake
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>>16554416
You're noticing.
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>>16554416
It's not an accident that they never use proper capitalization and maybe, occasionally, autosuggested punctuation at most. It means they're using non-English keyboard layouts.
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>>16554416
They aren't real people with an interest in spaceflight, they are EDS tourists who are going to dry up when the rocket is in serial production. It was the exact same with F9.
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>>16554420
They're not even EDS tourists: they're paid shills, probably getting paid a fraction of a penny per post.
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>>16554419
I'm using a non-English keyboard as well
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>>16554416
>Musk has nothing to do with the companies, but if you correct them, it's because you want to suck Musk's cock
>Musk has nothing to do with the companies, but if the companies do something shitty it's because Musk is retarded
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>>16554416
there's alot of that stuff online now. they'll argue misinfo / disinfo until they're dead. could be retards, could be psyops, could be bots.
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>>16554417
SpaceX obviously

>>16554416
>>SpaceX only exists because they keep handing out government money to them
They don't understand or care that even if it were true, SpaceX has saved the government billions of dollars that it would have had to pay to other vendors that would over charge and under deliver for inferior service.
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>>16554423
Well, I don't buy that because there is no shortage of EDS (a lot of it recently is his own fault, two things can be true at once) and there's no particularly good profit motive in shitposting about SpaceX. It's a private holding that already owns most of the market.
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Apparently the lawsuits over the debris corridor redirecting a shitload of planes to the point that a lot of them had to divert or return because of low fuel could be quite significant.
Anti musk&spaceX fags will love this shit.
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>>16554416
background noise at this point
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>>16554429
If you're Thunderf00t, gaslighting people into thinking he's got the right idea attracts video views which yields ad revenue.
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Taking my GET
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>>16554403
Did elon ever even acknowledge that 4chan exists?
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>>16553818
effectiveness as an anti aircraft weapon? Inter Continental Surface to Air Missile? ICSAM
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>>16554442
I think he did once, talking about how it's useful somewhere for AI training data, but I could be wrong.
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>>16554440
Epic Muskrat Fail
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>>16554443
was that type 3?
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>>16553832
>the damn FAA
remove it
You don't own the sky, so you can't tell us what to do in it. Don't fly if you're worried about getting take out by a shartship.
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>>16554222
proof the heatshield works
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>>16554447
i'm still free, they cant take the sky from me
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>>16554439
I really doubt he has the funds to recruit any shills, they just naturally gravitate towards anyone who makes the right noise. I hope he does catch a big windfall though because it gives him hope and makes the descent funnier
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Wikipedia’s 2025 in spaceflight page has this table of expected maiden launches, I’d like to know which launchers are missing.
Obviously I need a source for any change, I’d also gladly take any source that justifies removing launchers from the chart (for exemple for Tsyklon-4M)
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>>16554416
>SpaceX only exists because they keep handing out government money to them
Considering the overburden of other corporations doing that, assuming SpaceX is guilty of it aswell, so what? Perhaps we eliminate 1% of the deficit (4 SLS launches).
If you wanted to cut back on spending, quit healthcare spending.
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>>16554442
He was literally fielding questions from /pol/ on his alt
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>>16554457
>quit healthcare spending

Whichever congress creatures vote for this will get eviscerated at their next election by the boomer block and they know it. Also they are paid off by big pharma to keep the tax piggy dollars flowing. Not happening.
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>>16554251
>>16554263
how kind of SpaceX to boost the market of these Caribbean islands!
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>>16554451
That requires paying attention to abominably stupid people, and it's just depressing to devote brainpower to remembering them.
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>>16554458
that was his h1b interns
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>>16554464
Someone else will do that for me and make a funny compilation video
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>>16554461
>Whichever congress creatures vote for this will get eviscerated at their next election by the boomer block and they know it.
Yes obviously. That's why all democracies are universally doomed. "Once the people realize they can vote themselves other's money, the republic is lost." - Sun Tzu.
>Not happening.
Doesn't mean I'm wrong. Final solution to the deficit/debt question is to just hold spending (nominal) in all areas for a few years. The economy will outgrow the deficit, then the debt will start to be removed. Again, likely impossible.

I recon dysgenics led us here.
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>>16554458
still thought his question about the BBC was kind of funny

>>16554463
a real windfall when you think about it
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>>16554455
Alright Some that I can thinking of

Gushenxing-2 https://www.stdaily.com/web/gdxw/2024-11/09/content_255864.html
Full scale (4 stage) Goche Yeonlyo Uju Balsache https://www.spaceradar.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=2728

Some doubts on Perigee Aerospace. A recent english language interview says commercial launches in 2026, with only test launches starting in early 2025, but the test launches in question are suborbital ones that were delayed from last fall.
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>>16554446
no idea, ripped from wiki page on behive shells, 46cm gun
If you're interested in effective anti-air artillery, look for Red Queen. UK post war, smooth-bore, subcalibre impact fuse round.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXabc5jbHLE
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>>16554495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWZ6fZpYgdg&ab_channel=VISBattlefield
that one
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>OpenAI admits they are working on LEV testing
>Elon is now going full steam ahead starting Monday since the FAA will not give out more restrictions
>Advacement in AI and technology is now accelerating fast, 2025 will feel like ten years by 2026
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>>16554442
Yes he’s called it by name, I doubt he’s privy to /sfg/ though
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>>16554511
I still don't know how that AI works
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>>16554519
https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1880328198438940923
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Obviously Elon is an extreme narcissist.
How does this affect spaceflight in the future?
Is this actually a good thing as his track record might suggest?
Or do we need someone else who is not as troubled to take the lead?
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>>16554523
https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/01/17/1110086/openai-has-created-an-ai-model-for-longevity-science/

This is fucking huge, with this happening - the best of the best at spacelight research can live longer and bring new ideas.
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>>16554525
There is no one else than him you retard, I'll take his retarded boomer episodes more than anyone else.
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>>16554526
Fuck off
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>>16554530
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>>16554525
There is no one with Elon's money who has the vision and drive to get us to Mars. Someone like him comes around once every 50 years.
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>>16554525
His brain is being eaten alive by the same proteins that made him smart in the first place. it's killing him, this wont end well at all. much worse than unclipped fingernails and pissing in bottles
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>>16554525
Can't you get a real hobby
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space has no room for narcissism or racism
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>>16554550
Space has the most room for racism. Especially against filthy Xenos.
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>>16554493
>naming your new rocket ballsack
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>>16554557
toy module
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>>16554557
looks completely autistic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tDRVRx0aU
>13 years ago
when did everything go wrong?
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https://x.com/davill/status/1880386974139531314
>Our Blue Ring Pathfinder hit all our mission objectives within the planned six-hour journey after being inserted into the desired orbit by New Glenn with an apogee of 19,300 km and a perigee of 2,400 km at a 30-degree inclination. GS2 and the BE-3U engines nailed insertion with a less than 1% deviation from our exact orbital injection target.

There is a video too
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/sfg/ - Sucking off Felon General
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https://x.com/davill/status/1880401749963600106

Liftoff clip
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>>16554590
we already had that one before
be more original
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>>16554593
/sfg/ - SameFag General
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>Cryo proof testing underway for Starship 34. This will be the ship for Starship test flight 8.
>1/17/25
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>>16554600
i dont care
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>>16554600
Shame they'll have to clear a mishap investigation and implement mitigation measures first. Probably won't fly for a while.
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>>16554601
You have AIDS
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>>16554598
nice slow motion video
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>>16554605
it’s sped up actually
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/sfg/ - ship fragmentation general
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>>16554602
TWO MONTHS
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>>16553818
I think I have seen that before...
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>>16553818
is this what rods from god would look like?
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Last night after Flight 7, Elon and SpaceX's Ryan Goodnight (@ryangoodnight) and Lauren Dreyer (@laurendreyer06) hosted a delegation of leading Indian business figures at Starbase for a fireside Q&A. The group was led by the India Global Forum (IGF) to mark the UK-headquartered policy and events platform's expansion into the US. Per Elon, "Things are trending positive. I'm certainly in favour of lowering trade barriers to increase commerce between the US and India." The pic was taken on the top floor of Mega Bay 2.
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>>16554618
>leading Indian business figures
is that they're calling H1-B's now?
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>>16554618
This shit is SO fucking tiresome bros
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https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1880360279038476331
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>>16554618
god i wish i was indian
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>>16554525
He has all the power one man could reasonably attain and he takes it out by sometimes taking people's blue check marks away. Elon is a casual narcissist at best. The world is safe.
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>>16554032
This will literally happen on Mars in the future
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>>16554557
looks like AI lmao
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>>16554618
lmao fucking based
/sfg/ - Saar Flight General
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>>16554618
The Indian Starship clone will beat the Chinese clone to orbit.
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>>16553769
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>>16554618
>vehicle vaporises across the sky into 10000 pieces due to QC issues
>so anyway I started bringing in more indians

I'm so tired....
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>>16554618
>>16554640
Yep, we'll make it there with some biryani power
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>>16553818
Surprised nobody is capitalizing on this kind of fireworks yet. Some guy out there with a big ego and a million bucks can easily pay for such a breathtaking spectacle. If we could find a way to make it less dangerous like make the debris disintegrate early on or create a compound that burns the same way maybe it could work?
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>>16553756
Feb
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>>16554662
much better. booster re-use is likely to happen this year.
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at what point does #TeamSpace end and it becomes a ruthless cutthroat environment like every other industry?
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https://www.rocket.jaxa.jp/rocket/h2a/f50_special/message.html
The 50th H-IIA flight will also be its last. To commemorate the occasion, a special decal will be placed on the rocket that'll contain submitted messages.
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>>16554067
We should abolish the metric system. It's just silly and causes nonsense like this.
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>>16554683
>H-IIA
nice name saar
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>>16554314
21st century VOC
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1880441884688150746
>Super Heavy Booster 14, flown on Starship test flight 7, was lifted off of the launch mount tonight for transport back to the production site.
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>>16554693
it looks really good, maybe it will be the first to re-fly
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>>16554693
b-but esefgee told me that the engine bells were completely warped and bent, what gives
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>>16554693
>>16554697
263, 388, and 371 look a bit out of round.
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>>16554700
right edge of 302 is flat
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>>16554701
I think you're right. Continuing three engines over clockwise from 302 has a squished bell on the inside. There's a lot of messed up engines in there.
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>>16554525
kill yourself, retard
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>>16554550
>>16554553
space has no room for niggers
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>>16553756
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>>16554700
Oh no, muh 3 seconds of ISP
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Lmao
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>>16553914
It looks bluer at night and that's the actual reason they launched it then.
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augmented reality cryptocurrency AI drone spaceflight
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>>16554765
you forgot to add quantum
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>>16554765
Elon Musk billionaire NFT block-chain, UAP Trump, game-changer
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You know remember this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHGd6LqAVzw
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>>16554287
Just hear me out.
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>>16554786
Cringe chileno, that would only work for retrograde and some polar orbits, unless you were to launch all the way from Tierra del Fuego. Argentina is a way better option for traditional, eastward trajectories. Milei should pitch this idea to Musky.
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12 hours until starlink launch
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>>16554693
These engines are WARPED and DESTROYED.
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>>16554794
This would mark the 399th Falcon landing, including Falcon Heavy missions. Now, if we also include Super Heavy, then it'd be the 401th landing in general.
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>>16554042
>mods keep stickying old threads
>threads hit image limit when sticky ends
>old threads return to page 1
>takes two days to reach page 10
that's why you need to make fucking launch threads
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>>16554796
>401th
Meant 401st. Also, this would be the 369th reflight of a Falcon booster, and the 10th flight of this particular stage B1082, reaching the same number of missions as the Challenger Space Shuttle orbiter.
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>>16554799
The booster with the most amount of flights so far is B1067, with 25, basically the same number as the Endeavor Shuttle. Next up to surpass is Atlantis with 33, and finally Discovery with 39. Will a Falcon stage reach 40 flights before being phased out with Starship? hmm
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>>16554793
brazil would be even better or equatorial launches but for some reason they have never even launched a satellite.
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>>16554802
>he doesn't know
kkkkkk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLS-1
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>>16554693
Engine bells look perfect this time round. Good deal
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>>16554801
yes but
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Elmo Morsk needs jail time
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>>16554812
Punished Musk would really be something. Maybe he'll then finally go full anti-urfer and start with the Glassing Project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuLAVxrtWy0
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>>16554793
Im from argentina, i say fuck off, we dont want rockets to blow up here
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>>16554816
how bout this: eat shit out my ass faggot
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>>16554816
I'm also from Argentina, boludo, and SpaceX and Musk are very much welcome here. Seguro votaste a Massa.
P.S. aguante river
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However, they're only legal tenGm0jader on the Moon.
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>>16554032
This shit is so racist lmao. It's like translating "fly lice" => "fried rice"
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>>16554819
reminder that Eisenhower and Anthony dollars feature the Apollo 11 mission patch design on the tails side
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>>16554821
gyaru
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>>16554816
>>16554818
latinx infighting
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spehs
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Artemis's RIDE went bankrupt
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https://x.com/_jaykeegan_/status/1880428737747120517

Views from customs/border patrol camera tracking
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>>16554841
just take a golf cart or something. why are we spending millions on this stupid bullshit
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https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-doesnt-want-to-offer-starlink-for-15-requests-exemption-from-ny

NYC passed a law forcing SpaceX to service hundreds of thousands/millions of poor people with $15/m high speed internet. That includes taxes, rental fees, and monthly fees and any charges.
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>>16554831
We are everywhere.
>latinx
*Latin American.
>>16554805
>VLS-1
A shame that this ended up going nowhere after that accident back in 2003. Last I heard its successor, called VLM, was still in eternal development, just like our Tronador rockets. Oh well, could be worse.
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>>16554846
SpaceX is also filing for an exemption, as they only serve a limited number of customers in New York and it would provide an unreasonable burden to their infrastructure to comply.
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>>16554849
20,000 is the limit. So if they have more than 20K, they're fucked. SpaceX has ~1.8M customers. US is prob 70% of that customer base. Thats 1.26M / 50 states = 25K per state. And New York is the 4th largest states so they'll be higher than the average. If I had to guess, they're prob closer to 40K than they are to <20K.
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>>16554846
4th amendment violation
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>>16554851
https://www.pcmag.com/news/appeals-court-upholds-ny-law-requiring-isps-offer-15-broadband

It would need to go to the US supreme court
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>>16554846
AT&T completely pulled out of the state over this, but yeah, poor people should have internet subsidies
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>>16554852
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2580931/att-kills-5g-internet-service-in-new-york-over-forced-low-income-plans.html

Also ATT killed their 5G ISP as they're incurring negative costs at this point
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>>16554850
If Starlink cant get exemption, they'll have to kick off users from New York and put a hard limit of 20K users. Prob less than that, and allow some buffer for emergencies.
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>>16554850
That's not how customer demographics work. They claim they have fewer than 20k in New York because the population is highly urbanized and very heavily built out with broadband infrastructure.
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>>16554857
1) New York has ~20 million people.
2) Rural New York is ~12% of the population.
3) Thats 2.4 million rural.
4) Rural NY has avg family size of ~3.3. So 2.4 million / 3.3 = 727K rural families

If Starlink has 10% rural penetration, thats ~72K.
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>>16554859
Even 5% rural rate is 22K. So Starlink is likely between that. Probably closer to 7% @ 50K rural subscribers
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>>16554416
This would only be a valid complaint if SpaceX never gave anything back. But they have a bunch of contracts with NASA. Starshield, ISS, maybe some other things. The US government is basically an investor and a customer. Why is that supposed to be bad?
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>>16554841
Aw, man, I liked those cars.
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>>16554859
>>16554862
Remind me again why you're inventing numbers for Starlink service rates in New York?
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>>16554869
Stop being retarded.
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>>16554872
Alright, got it:
>SpaceX's numbers aren't real, it's actually terrible! New York will get them!
>Use suspect methodology to create numbers to back your case
>Get called out on it
>"Stop being retarded."
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>>16554873
See >>16554872
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Booster 14 is rolling back.
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>>16554875
but, how is that possible without alabama river rocks?
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>>16554618
All is forgiven. Bring them all in Mr Musk! We got a starship to code
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>>16554879
It should be illegal, mandate alabama rocks
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Not sure why I didn't know this already, but I just learned that Blorigin is planning to build a New Glenn pad at Vandenberg. Looks like it will be about a mile north of ULA's SLC-3E. I guess they must be anticipating a lot of customers wanting higher inclination launches in the future.
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>>16554886
i heard it was unconfirmed rumor
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dare I say sfg is... moribund?
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in space, no one can smell you poop
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>>16554812
He is facing it from the SEC for faking Tesla self driving footage. Interestingly as soon as the investigation started he suddenly cared about politics and broke his old record of donating $5k by donating $277m to the guy that sold pardons last term.
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>>16553818
Now I know how Roy felt
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>>16554618
In a few days Elon will be free to start the great H1B replacement at SpaceX, if you thought the adventures of Saarliner were funny wait until you see Saarship.
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>>16554795
Is this a smashed and slammed joke?
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>>16553842
>ng
>overwhelming success
whatever makes you cope better
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>>16554921
BO can now start putting payloads on NG and make money while they work on their booster. SpaceX can jerk off to videos of Superheavy landing while they work on Starship.
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>>16554928
SpaceX can continue to print money with Falcon 9
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>>16554934
>we don't need Starship to work anyway
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>>16554935
from a financial perspective, there is no rush
neither does BO have a rush (lmao) but you brought this up as some kind of gotcha
SpaceX is printing money with F9 and Starlink, BO has been sucking the tit of Bezos for almost 25 years now with miniscule revenues from
neither is reliant on their new rocket working on the short term for financial health, unlike lets say Stoke or Rocket Lab
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>>16554948
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where is the avionics/communication located? if they lost contact with Starship before it actually broke apart
in the aft?



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