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Heil SpaceX
>>16563888hale hortler
SPEHS!
>>16563888Good morning Saaar!
>>16563888Heil One Bee
Sieg Heil, fellow spaceflight enthusiasts!
Brilliant Pebbles
/sci/ is about to play /his/ shortly for those interested >>16563908
>>16563942Sorry, but soccer is for latinos and europeans and I am neither.
>>16563942gayball
>>>16563950>>16563955>implying real drivegrassits all just for the memes
>>16563958Anime peaked here.
>>16563963the audio mixing in it is terrrribbbleeeee
>>16563969The music is bitching though be it
>>16563969it's a featurelike film grain and little hand-drawing imperfections
>>16563888spacex master race
>>16563888The digits foretell Martian victory.
to MARS!
>>16564010and Phobos, don't forget Phobos!
>>16564018Phobos is a shithole
>>16564018how could you forget Deimos?
>>16563497I feel like it would be easier to run a huge fleet of atmospheric scoop satellites on Venus as it is, condense the gathered CO2 into dry ice onboard, fire those pellets from the individual scoops up to a larger consolidated mass in a higher orbit, then ship off a succession of those larger boluses to Mars with a series of plasma magnet sail cycler tugs or something. Condensing the entire atmosphere first seems like a huge waste of energy.
>>16564019say that againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qre-T7Zf3Co>>16564023who?
>>16564019You shut your whore mouth.
>>16564027Mars simply is not going to retain any atmosphere until you can restart it's dynamo or generate an artificial magnetosphere for the planet
>>16564031Venus has enough spare atmosphere to keep Mars supplied for a million years, that buys a lot of time to work out the details of an artificial magnetosphere.
>>16564031even if you take 100 years to build up a 1 bar breathable atmosphere on mars, it's gonna take millions of years for it to ablate away, even without a magnetic field.
>>16563888
>>16563950Most of /sfg/ is Indians shilling for Elon.
>>16564051clear wtf??
>>16564027>>16564028>>16564029>>16564031>Checks time stampsWhy do you idiots insist on spamming /sfg/ with your discord tranny circle jerk?
>>16564027Freezing satellite mirrors would be passive, and mass drivers would be ground based. Scoop satellites would need to constantly compensate for friction and freeze the atmosphere while in space. This makes no sense at all and isn't better in any way. >>16564031Check the timescales faggot, that isn't even worth thinking about
>>16564038listen to what you're sayingyou cannot just take Venus' atmosphere and push it to Marsthat's ludicrousit would be far easier to set up artificial EMF first, even if it's just localized and not planetary, and then gradually develop the levels of biomass necessary for a rudimentary breathable atmosphere and cleaning the soil>>16564039have fun getting baked by solar radiation every time Mars hits perihelionon Earth it's not really the atmosphere that protects us from rads, it's our magnetosphere that deflects most of it (although the ozone layer is still important)>it's gonna take millions of years for it to ablate awayidk about that, maybe if it were dumped all at once it would have greater cohesionbut in the piecemeal fashion you are suggesting, I cannot help but think it will simply not stick around in any meaningful sensenot really an area I know much about though>>16564057lmao you're new don't bother trying to identify blatant samefags or brigadingthat's what I do >>16564060we could develop artificial EMF based radiation shielding technology in a generation, I'd be willing to bet some form of it already exists
>>16564096the real answer is that this a stupid line of questioning to begin with since any project that aims to terraform mars will be tackling both of these issues at the exact same time.
> SpaceBasedFox: Boeing render of their [Manned!] Mars sample return/ manned flyby mission concept that they were showing on screens at industry conventions."Hmmm... how can we make MSR suck even more. Aha!"
bros i thought space engineer on X was supposed to be smart
>>16564138>manned Orion Martian fly-by>Hab module barely larger than the capsuleI would end up throwing myself out of the airlock if they forced me in that shitcan for months on end.
They support an Orion flyby, I support an Orion flyby, we are not the same
>>16564031Titan has a lower escape velocity than mars does, but it still has a thick nitrogen atmosphere. Granted Nitrogen on Titan also has a lower root mean square speed because its colder, but its not that much lower and as such mars' gravity would be able to hold onto Nitrogen and Oxygen.
>>16564156what would the exhaust of a nuclear pulse rocket look like in space?
>>16564096Are you the council guy? I'm not wasting time arguing if you are
>>16564175Boring! Most particles are too high energy for our eyes to even see
>>16564096>you cannot just take Venus' atmosphere and push it to MarsWho's going to stop me?
>>16563458Venus's atmosphere would be even denser if it had a magnetosphere to protect it from solar wind.
>>16564138When this eventually doesn't happen, because we all know it won't, I suppose every single skeptic and media outlet will come out, and call Boing's CEO a scammer and a liar that didn't deliver what he had promised, right anons?
>>16564138You deserve capital punishment
>>16564175just the flash of a nuclear bomb once every few seconds
>>16564195Boing killed a bunch of guys and no one cared lol
>>16564178see >>16564007you aren't fucking with me, you're fucking with THE goat>>16564187it would literally be easier to set up a bunch of LENRs to transmute the elements you need for an atmosphere than collect and transport Venusian gas to Mars
>he got his political opinions from a sci fi novel
>>16564195nope, because that standard only applies to spacex, EDS is like that.spacex claiming anything or giving any projections as to when they might complete any given task is actually a detailed written contract with the public that has legal repercussions when broken.that's how it feels sometimes, anyway.
>>16564223Elon's competitors always seem to have some sort of backlash immunity. They can all destroy the environment, and kill a ton of people, yet nobody reports on it, nor they get angry. weird.
>>16564096>on Earth it's not really the atmosphere that protects us from rads, it's our magnetosphereHoly shit what a retard
>>16564229Because Elon being retarded on social media or Elon companies failing at something gets more clicks.
>>16564230He's the dumbest guy here. Everything he says is so unbelievably wrong I'm beginning to think he's trolling (outside of /b/ mind you)
>>16564225It's not me who posts that.I came up with the civics independently and disagree with him on several points, but we have the broad strokes in common.Namely, the "representatives of certain occupational groups" bit that triggers midwits so much they screech about "muh communism" for multiple threads like chumps who don't know the GOAT and I are on the exact same page on that one.>>16564230>>16564245you're both even more retarded and have no idea how much radiation the magnetosphere deflects or why it's importantgo back to your fake and gay discord secret club you blather about and post webms of here for some retard reason
>he thinks the secret discord meme is real
>1999 + 25>still no orbilander mission to Triton & NeptuneWTF are they doing? THAT MOON LITERALLY HAS AN ATMOSPHERE WITH CLOUDS! Yeah sure tenuous even compared to Mars but it's still something.
>>16564288Then why did a retard post webms of a discord chat spamming the nooglin flight and literally say that's the ""/sfg/ discord""?That shit is archived idiot, you mouthbreathers can't keep your dumb mouths shut about your hugbox because you're fucking new and don't know about Rule 1.In fact, this board is so goddamn slow I bet I could link to that post ITT and it wouldn't be dead yet.here >>16556861 >>16557048it is truly mega cringe how you think we give a single fuck about your discord cancer
fuck you
grim
>>16564304This dude is such a lolcow
>>16564312I'm telling you he's trolling. No one is that dumb.
do you know why a sudden magnetic pole reversal would be a big deal for life on this planet and human civilizationor why people follow the accelerating rate of change in position of the magnetic north pole so closely over the past few yearswho cares amirite, magnets are totally irrelevant to spaceflight for reasons
>meltdown begins
/sfg/ regulars just like chatting and reacting to rocket launches without a cooldown. I don't see anything wrong with that.
>>16564304I can see your confusion, but that’s actually the /stg/ space transportation general (>>>/n/2027828) discord.
>>16562961the federal workforce needs to be reducedif your do-nothing government job isn't important enough to you to drive into the office 5 days a week, then go find a private sector jobhopefully this reduces the number of NASA employees dramatically, since most of them could be profitably replaced by an empty chair
>>16564317The pole can go where it wants to, I'm not its dad.
>>16564229>Elon's competitors always seem to have some sort of backlash immunity.>Government cronies don't go after themselves.Don't worry, we're replacing the old oligarchs with new ones. Then the cycle repeats.Eventually we'll have AnCap and be rid of this, but not for a few thousand years more.
>>16564322if that really were the case, why do the filenames read "sfg"
>>16564327The anon who posted them must have miss labeled them, idk
>>16563705build dikes or dams and add fill as necessaryfuck naturebuild more spaceports
>>16564031wrong and extremely gayeveryone who repeats this myth must face justice
Has planet 9 and 19 been deboonked yet?
>>16564031It's easyYou don't need one thoughYou'd just build it for fun
>>16564018>>16564023both are gonna be grounded to dust in order to build the space elevator
>>16564346there's a magnetic anomaly in the southern hemisphere associated with the geologyyou don't need or want to exaust Phobos if it could simply serve as a platform, an induced EMF may interfere with communications
>>16564294JPL is grifting Mars too hard. I’d argue that Curiosity and perseverance are simply too redundant. Quit fucking around with the red planet, sending missions that are billions of $$$$$$ and only incrementally better each time (and a planet which humans are trying to go to anyways and who can blow all these expensive robotic missions out of the water in one week of human activity vs years and years of robotic exploration) and instead focus resources on mercury, venus, uranus, neptune
m2020 dust devils
>>16564369Imagine being on EVA, slightly annoyed by these devils. Perhaps the most exciting experience of otherwise boring and desolate ass planet
>>16564096>Mass replyingHoly fuck being this desperate for attention.Your parents didn't love you: we get it anon but it's quite clear you're very dumb.
>>16564225personally I get my politics from a anime designed to sell plastic toys
>>16563940Please god just let me put my penis inside her
>>16564225I base my political views on Dune
>>16564347>space elevatorif you're trolling you have to say
I'm an accelerationist, I support space escalators
>>16564412No.
>>16564412No
space elevators are essential to make space colonization viable
One thing that I hadn't realized: The first chinese probe to reach Jupiter likely won't be Tianwen 4 but it should the Chinese Academy of Science's Kuafu-2/Solar Polar Orbiter, a Ulysses-like Eliptical Solar polar orbit heliophysics probe approved about a year ago and expected to do a Jupiter gravity assist in 2032.
>>16564138>NASA designs the largest and most complex mission possible, with multiple launches and a human crew, in order to give jobs and business to as many states and workers it can, for as long as it can.>China just sends an all-in-one rocket with sample return package included and gets the sample back while NASA's diversity desk still debates what colors and pronouns the astronauts will have.
the vast majority of matter in the universe exists in the plasma statebecause there isn't much pressure in space, and plasma is more readily induced in low pressure environments
>>16564440CAS's own space scientiifc program is quite interesting, it's also more involved internationally than other chinese scientific programs, the last probe (Eiinstein probe) was an ESA cooperation, the next one (SMILE) is a now rare case of a Chinese bus launching on a western launcher (Vega-C later this year).Overall the Chinese academy of science, either itself or through its various subsidiaries is building quite a decent space capability.>CAS Space has the Kinetica 1 launcher, which is the only non-CASC one to start launching international payload (an Omani one last november, a french one,sadly failed, last month); and with a Reusable Medium launcher (Kinetica 2) in development.>CAS's Microsatellite Academy is contracted to build Qianfan, effectively ~V1 starlink sats at currently roughly 2020 production rate with plans for more; it's also a common contractor for many chinese satellites>It's also building a Cygnus-like cargo resuply vehicle for Tiangong, and expect it to launch on CAS Space's Kinetica 2 later this year CAS has already fostered high tech companies before (Lenovo was started by CAS, which still owns a bit of it), but by the end of the decade that Public research institution, despite not being one the "main" Chinese space agency, may have non neglible space capabilities by itself, above say, some big european countries.
>>16564431Show your work
>>16564456>Tianwen-4 would make it to Uranus in 2045 if all goes well59 years after Voyager 2. It's all so tiresome.
>>16564477Now imagine how Makemake or Eris fags feel...
>>16564480We are starving. The best thing we have is New Horizons, but it’s a completely different design than the Voyagers. It’s going to run out of nuclear power soon.The furthest active probe humans have control over will then probably be Juno or, God forbid ESA gets the record, JUICE around ganymede
>>16564484I'm not kidding when I say that, if SpaceX didn't exist and we had to rely solely on oldspace, we would have to wait at least 500 years to get an orbiter around all 5 dwarf planets at the same time. People that have other hobbies would never understand the complete and utter hopelessness that comes with being a spaceflight fan. Can't really think of any other activity where the waiting time is this long, and wondering if things will or will not happen in your lifetime is the norm.
>>16564531Big if true
>>16564449China's sample return mission is just scooping up some dirt under the lander for the sake of having a sample return rather than trying to get scientifically meaningful samples.
>>16564494nuke watchers get the same feeling too
>>16564277when life was first leaving the oceans, what was it that reduced radiation enough to make that possible? because it sure as shit wasn't the magnetosphere, that was already around, retard.
>>16564645I do believe that was our good friend, ozone.
>>16564060Scoop satellites can use part of the CO2 they're gathering in ion engines for station-keeping. And how exactly are you using a mass driver to launch dry ice blocks off Venus? Where are you getting the material for the sleds? You want to dig through 80 miles of snow to mine the surface?
>>16563963>rape scene for literally no good reasonIt wasn't even hotNah movie was boring and mid
>>16564138this looks like it costs $20 billion, but im glad that they're at least coming up with a plausible scenario even if its unaffordable
>>16564647this problem reared it's ugly head again during the Permian extinction btw.all those vulcanic gasses completely deleted the ozone layer, plant spores found from this time are horribly SMASHED and SLAMMED because of the excessive radiation and life on land was barely holding on until it got restored.
I can't believe Usui Clear (宇推くりあ) is a member of the national socialist german workers party, or nazi as some people like call her.
>>16564690We need historical Clear in obersturmfuhrer cosplay watching old launches and butchering the german language.
>>16563902>"we didnt know it was roadster! IT WASNT BEING TRACKED!!!">use google>10 separate websites specifically tracking roadster10,000 more starlinks in leo to pox these fucking astroretards.
>still no new FAA administrator Trump doesn't care about spaceflight
>>16564731he's been busy on a whirlwind tour. he'll have meetings with republicans over the next few days to hash out the next steps of party policy. we could see movement on nominations then.
>>16564731It was obvious that there won't be a starship flight in february after that failure.
>>16564653filtered
>>16564650There is no scenario where orbital infrastructure is easier than ground infrastructure.
>>16563888Heil Muskler!
thoughts?>>>/r9k/80174011
>>16563888Checking and Heil Hitler.
>>16564807that anon is a retard and it's no surprise that he browses /r9k/. i shouldn't have to even explain why.
>>16564096>it's not really the atmosphere that protects us from radsdaily exposure on the moon - 1.3millisvdaily exposure on mars - 0.6millisvthis is because theres 80km of atmosphere, however tenuous
>>16564834Imagine how much less radiation will there be once the first lunar colonists bury themselves into the tunnels
>>16564096this is pretty much a perfect example of a midwit.
>>16564775Also why space based solar (for any planet), or supercomputer banks in space are memes.
>>16564837its probably going to be the best solution for the time being. just dig some fricking holes for frack sake
>>16564477Fucking warhawks didn't fund a few billion to take the opportunity and send more probes when it would be timely.And just what was the point of New Horizons past Pluto?
>>16564807Theia remnants; or slab graveyard (of subducted crust)
>>16564854fracking?
did someone of you guys actually go to the r9k thread to make a serious post about geology?
>>16564945kek
>>16564834Based solely on the distance from the sun you should expect Mars to receive about 40% of the radiation the moon does, which would account for the entire difference.
>>16564556whew that was a near miss. I thought they cleared the airspace for launches, why is boarder patrol allowed to nearly clip the rocket with their blimp?
>>16564975So you're saying Mars is farther away from the sun than our Moon?
fuck off
>>16564834the radiation argument is so goddamn fucking annoying.0.6 millisv per day is "you might be more likely to develop cancer later in life" tier, and that's assuming you spend all of your time outside with literally no protection to your skin.with an improved atmosphere it'd be even more laughable and meaningless to make a stink about the radiation. makes you wonder why normalfags always jump on that as the major roadblock for mars colonisationCAPTCHA: 2S0YR
>>16564414Butlerian Jihad when
>>16564578If you're not first, you're last.
>>16564987the one caveat to this is that during a CME or solar flare you might want to go shelter if you live on mars.
>>16564975I was about to say this.Magnetosphere and induced EMF haters cannot think critically.They took the middle school level earth science take they got that it's the atmosphere protects us from radiation and stopped learning right there. Ofc since their schoolmarms never bothered to mention the magnetosphere for whatever reason, these rocket nerd midwits never bothered to learn about it.What's really stupid is any search engine query will confirm literally everything I said, any AP science high school student would be able to figure it out without even checking.*They aren't sending their best.*The magnetosphere protects us from most of the radiation, the ozone layer takes care of the minority of high frequency stuff that gets through.If we didn't have a magnetosphere, the ozone layer would get absolutely fucked and vanish over time.>muh 1% atmosphere will save us!!lmao
>>165648544chan is an 18+ website you can swear here
>>16564982>Elon is being frozen out by being given DOGEEDS sufferers are badly coping with the last week
>>16564984he doesn't really need one because he's not in a cabinet positionmoreover, he embarassed the administration with his nazi salute spergout and alienated long standing allies like Bannonthat's not enough to give him the Vivek treatment considering all he's done, but hopefully this sends the message that he's not entitled to proximity with POTUS at all timesthe other problem is his buisness ties to China being potentially compromising, being literally in the White House could make him privy to sensitive discussions and with that logic in mind could represent a security or intelligence vulnerabilityjust my take though, IDK for sure
>>16565018speaking of EDS sufferers coping
>>16565018in a bit out of the loop, what happened to Vivek, and how did Elon alienate himself from Bannon? Is Elon still going to head that efficiency agency?
>>16565002>retard has melty after being mocked relentlessly>specifically uses "midwit" after it was used on himwew lad.
>>16563888>heil>lost brightest young minds>starship program flops>company slowly dies, not in flames but in a whimperscreencap this tweet
>>16565025I don't know what specifically happened with Bannon, but that dude put a fatwa on Musk.Maybe it had something to do with le bluecheckmarks, or it's literally just H1B. Bannon has a pretty good memory, and doesn't like any of the slimy techbros like Bezos, Gates, and Zuck suddenly and organically abandoning the censor ship they personally steered for years like rats as soon as the winds changed, only when it became clear to anyone with a few neurons to rub together that the Dems would lose and their faux-progressive corporate insanity was wildly unpopular, only to suck up to Trump in the most sniviling groveling way and pretend they were really hecking based the whole time and the big bad gubbment made them do it.>>16565024not everyone who isn't literally paid to dickride him like you is automatically and irrationally opposed to him, his companies, or his goals in government
>>16565050why are you posting this retard's xeets here?kill yourself.
new sloss>Is politics freezing Artemis? NASA quiet as Trump takes overhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2cAyM4ccd0
>>16565050>all this wishful thinking>s-spacex doesn't attract the best and brightest anymore>b-because it just doesn't okay?the cream of the crop will always go to places where they think they'll make history, and that's always gonna be spacex. i'm sure this guy has a few underachieving liberal engineering students in his discord that tell him this but the reality is very different.
Anyone here a bitter Elon hater/skeptic?
>>16565065It's no secret about huge spacex employee turnover rate.
>>16564869possibly>>16564975>he thinks the main source of radiation exposure is the sunno my friend
>>16564987its hardly insignificant if you're going to spend many years there. no reason at all not to minimize it by digging in your main habitation areas>>16565004you can't flocking make me you flacker
>>16564807Those are remnants of when earth&the moon where made.
>>16565072and that has literally never been different, nobody cares.
>>16565082never said you shouldn't, as a matter of fact we'd need it for excessive bursts of solar radiation.
>>16565062NASA is in shockTen years of having to propose missions and specifically having to address DEI in every single one is getting tossed out. Large institutions don't change overnight, so there's likely some brutal office politics going on right now. Keep an eye on usajobs.gov to see what the turnover is like.
>>16565052>everyone who isn't being a fucking moron was paid to dickride him
>>16565104i rather think you did
>>16565072yet SpaceX has no problem filling positions, it's almost like actually doing things is a huge motivator
>>16565110what a defensive reaction you could have simply ignored instead of taking time out of your day to "address"good job replying, five cents have been deposited into your account
>>16564294dont know. everybody has a hard on for the dead red planet>cold as antarctica>dry as the sahara>barely above half of the size of earthyeah fuck off with the bustling colony fantasies. It will be lucky to have semi permanent research stations after the initial shine wears off followed by some limited mining operations when deposits are found. Similar to antarctica right here on earth at least there have been kick ass missions to the two big gas giants. Cassini alone did more heavy lifting then several mars dust anal probers combined
>>16565140its a dry cold
>>16564775Show your work. How is it easier to build an orbit-capable mass driver (more realistically you would need thousands if not hundreds of thousands) on a planet with no accessible minerals than to mass-produce scoop satellites on the Moon or Mercury and have them fly themselves to Venus by the millions?You'd still need orbital infrastructure to move the product from Venus to Mars anyway, unless you think those mass drivers will somehow be direct-delivery to Mars.
https://x.com/eugeneawi/status/1883489980171071552
>>16565160>africa has progressed past powerpoint slides and onto scale modelsBeating 4/5ths of China's space companies.
>>16565160Africa now is at least 10% closer to a reusable rocket than Europe
>>16565140I'm so fucking HARD for Dragonfly
>>16565160Does someone have that image where the Africans make a rocket out of those oil barrels/drums
>>16565160is this going in some kind of museum or display?
>>16565062whats the tl;dw?
>>16564578there is no such thing as "scientifically meaningful samples"all this "research" is complete makework nonsenseTheres a reason why after 60 years spacex still has to figure out reentry by themselves the hard way, everything NASA has done is a waste of time, there are zero ready made solutions despite billions spent
>>16563887Hainan commercial launch complex phase 2 formally began construction
>>16565243SpaceX using shuttle tiles
>>16565120>yet SpaceX has no problem filling positions,Yet Elon Musk claims there aren't enough Americans to fill those positions. If not for ITAR, SpaceX would be filled to the brim with cheap immigrant labor.
>>16565243its painful just how ignorant this post it. it hurts. inside.
>>16565258Exceptional talent is rare anywhere.
>>16565262How to detect exceptional talent in a job interview?
>>16565255
>>16565265How come Cape Canaveral, French Guyana, and Chinese launch site have coconut palms, but Starbase doesn't?
>>16565265will this facility permit the number of boosters landing on chinese people and their homes to meet quota?
>>16565160Reminds me of that one scene in 2001, but without the evolutionary trigger.
>>16565156The fundamentals are retarded and the premise is absurd but there's just no case where orbital infrastructure is better than ground. If you know anything at all about how rockets actually work and not Issiac Arthur handwaving you'd know this>Show your workShow why scoop satellites are retarded? You should just know this already. Quick and dirty math says that a scoop satellite the size of the ISS could capture ~100kg in an hour assuming ideal everything (I'm being extremely generous here), so if you had a constellation of ISS sized scoop satellites as large as the planned Starlink network of 34,000, you'd get 30,000,000 tons in a year (to say nothing of how it gets out of the satellites and on to Mars). This means you would be able to double Mars' current tenuous atmosphere in roughly 833 million years.
>>16565299>you would be able to double Mars' current tenuous atmosphere in roughly 833 million years.sounds easy enough, let's do it
>>16565114then you're not very smart.
>>16565302possibly
>>16565136>nonono you can't defend your viewpoint that's not allowed because that means you're "insert my political enemy here"idc
>>16565299>10x the satellites >100x the surface area of each>still four orders of magnitude off a compelling timescalegrim
>>16565256they are using shuttle derived tiles and are improving on them in every conceivable way.
>>16565266Palms are more sensitive to soil composition than you might think
>>16565308That's just to double what's there, so more like 6 orders of magnitude off at that point. Actually getting to an Earth thickness atmosphere with my original premise would take 6 times longer than the universe has already existed. When you're off by 9 orders of magnitude you know your fundamentals are fucked up.
>>16565313I have never in my life thought about the soil sensitivity of palm trees
>>16565313 but Boca Chica does have fan palms, but they don't have coconut palms.
>>16565313>>16565327The deluge system has completely destroyed the soil pH in Boca Chica so no coconut trees have ever been able to grow there.
>>16565330The deluge system hasn't even been operational for a year you twat.
>>16565330ive heard the beetles have been very unhappy too
>>16565256SpaceX's tiles are not the tiles used on the Shuttle.
>>16565341They're similar in principal, both being fumed silica, but the outer black coating seems to be a different material and the structure, arrangement, and bonding methods are different.
>>16565266>how come these place X has trees that humans planted but place Y doesn't
>>16565342they're certainly shuttle derived, but they've already made major improvements to the manufacturing and attachment methods compared to shuttle.
>>16565310Well hopefully, shuttle has not been flying for ages
>>16565345The natural distribution of the Coconut palm is a very controversial topic. For example it's probably not native to the whole Carribean, but was introduced by humans somehow.
>>16565330nooooo not the waterinooo ahhhhh
>>16565353The whole concept of natural distribution depends on how you define it.there’s shitloads of species that might’ve had very different ranges 100.000 years ago but human activity and human migration brought them to new places and they naturalized there in the meantime. The pigeon wood tree (plumeria alba) is estimated to have an original range only in puerto rico and the lesser antilles, but it’s been brought to southeast asia and has been there for thousands of years, i saw tons of them in the wild when i was visiting indonesia, they’re naturalized there.
>>16565365the dihydrogenmonoxide pollution scourge must be stopped
>>16565330get back to mopping up JPL chud
>>16565330I hope elon personally cuts down all the flora at boca chica and uses it as fuel to burn all the fauna there, and films himself doing it while doing roman salutes and posts it all on twitter.
>>16565392program a fleet of boosters to glide around the area about 20ft up.
>>16565405The scene from avatar 2 comes to mind where those spaceships dropped their payload.
>>16565410didn't see that so far. im concerned about the morality surrounding finding tall blue, vaguely animal-like, creatures sexually attractive
>>16565417It's at at the start of the movie. But if you find yourself atracted to +2m tall blue xeno's who use their tails to fuck then you probably should not watch the movie anyway.
fuck you mods
>>16565306Musk not only pays people to boost his ARPG accounts so he can look like a super genius gamer to the public on stream.He also pays people MUCH LESS than that to fellate his image, run damage control, astroturf, hype, etc on a Cambodian basket weaving forum.See, once it became fucking obvious to everyone his position on the D4 leaderboard was fake and gay it became much easier to convincingly point out to people who would not have otherwise considered the possibility that he also has shills elsewhere.Personally, I doubt this ever occured to him.That's why you bothered replying to me, again. Even though ostensibly, according to you, that would be dumb.
>>16565426its a real conundrum
I hope he fires you for sheer brazen incompetency in the face of the least possible amount of pushback.Me, we could do your job better. Not only that, I am literally interested in that kind of work because it *needs* to be uplifted from the current state you mooks have lowered it to.Literally, "stop hitting yourself" tier advocacy and you cannot even recognize that.
>>16565008It's an organization with no formal powers. Everything depends on the actual government following the recommendations. So depending on the vibes DOGE impact can be anything between perfectly zero or something substantial.
>>16565432I honestly never believed musk was spending all this time on vidya, it just did not make any sense that a guy with so much going on had the time to burn on games. I really wonder what he was thinking while coming up with this, did he think he was going to become more popular with zoomers that way or something?
>>16565455well he did get Joe Rogan to blather on about it on several episodesthere's that
>>16565458Joe "stoolfucker" rogan acts like a schoolgirl in love when around musk, he should not be taken serious on his opinons about musk.
>>16565432>He also pays people MUCH LESS than that to fellate his image, run damage control, astroturf, hype, etc on a Cambodian basket weaving forum.By much less you mean for free?
>>16565462very very few of his opinions can be taken seriously
>>16565469Rogan knows some shit though.Even if Jaime is completely useless most of the time.
>>16565464>By much less you mean for free?Preposterous, who would do such things for free?
>>16565474General rule for rogan podcasts>ignore all the comedian&martial arts guest podcasts>ignore when he gets defensive about drugs>ignore when he starts ranting about monkeys&aliens. >ignore in general whenever he opens his mouth. Best joe rogan podcasts are when he keeps his mouth shut and lets the guest speak. I'm still mad about the musk podcast where he just kept asking shit about AI&cybertruck and asked no questions at all about spaceX, it was obvious that he was told by musk to keep pushing those topics.
>>16565479>martial arts guestthose are the ones I take serious, where Rogan is literally an expert and spent hundreds of hours reviewing footage>gets defensive about drugsK (horse tranquilizer) has literally been approved for treatment of clinical depression however, and is demonstrably better than SSRIs (which are associated with seratonin syndrome, terrible)>monkeyschimp behavior is another area where he is more honest, even prescient, than say Goodall>keeps his mouth shut and lets the guest speakbeen known to ask good questions from time to tim
>>16564945why wouldn't we?
>>16565432Losers seething endlessly
>>16565492>those are the ones I take serious, where Rogan is literally an expert and spent hundreds of hours reviewing footageI have no doubt he knows his stuff, but as somebody who does not really give a fuck about martial arts, all those podcasts are just not that interesting to me. >K (horse tranquilizer) has literally been approved for treatment of clinical depression however, and is demonstrably better than SSRIs (which are associated with seratonin syndrome, terrible)I'm not talking about that, he, and a lot of docters who got their life destroyed for defending that at the time, where very much right about it. I'm talking about him getting very defensive on soft drugs policy, while he has people on his podcast telling him how many lives this shit has destroyed. >chimp behavior is another area where he is more honest, even prescient, than say GoodallIt used to be funny but he does it way too many times. >been known to ask good questions from time to timeHis podcast would never have made it his far if he could not do that.
>>16565299All we need is a portal gun. Just open one end on Venus and the other end on Mars, and solve two problems at once.
>>16564151That's a Starliner capsule
>>16565140Mars is nearby, has infinite water ice, and low enough gravity to make two way transport with modern propulsion tech possible. Simple as.
>>16564175https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_PrimeMind you LEO is a different environment than deep space.
>>16564982Source: Your ass
>>16565432You created this whole narrative in your head but i was actually a different guy making fun of your obsession lol, that was my first time replying to you.I don’t really care about elon sperging out about being found out fake gaming. But you’re developing EDS in real time here with your conspiracy theory that anyone defending the design of starship is a musk bootlicker.either that or you’re merely pretending to be retarded and i just replied to someone who desperately needs a hobby
>>16565445Who are you talking to? I think you’re having a mental breakdown, please consult with a doctor.
>i just replied five cents have been deposited into your account
>>16565697This isn’t reddit, anon, there are no updoots here, (you)’s are not updoots.
>>16565341>>16565342They are a slight modification of Shuttle's TUFI tiles, that includes the coating.
>>16565049Not them but you're very clearly retarded and insecure about your obviously lacking intelligence.>>16565002You're forgetting about the plasmasphere. It's trapped in the magnetosphere but isn't the magnetosphere. There is also extra-solar origins of radiation. I'm not arguing one way or the other beyond saying rocket science is a joke.
>>16565050I love how much this inspires seeth.The real reason Elon is pushing for H1Bs is no one want's to work for him. His pay scale is shit and he overworks people and his product is sub par. What kind of retard would buy an electric car that doesn't have a replaceable (modular) battery.
>>16565070Me. Personally I doubt that Elon even exists
>>16565695He's right and you're pretty pathetic.>>16565432I'm still waiting for that four stitch back weave explanation. I'm replying to you because you're correct and I enjoy the basket weaving.
Young man, this is the way
>>16565264ask the candidate to bring information about work they've done and discuss it during the interviewask the candidate what plans they have for the rolefinding good people is hard, but finding exceptional people is easy
>>16565538All we need is a regular gun. Just shoot /x/ posters and retards, and solve two problems at once.
Is any progress being made on those little laser driven lightsail probes to send to alpha centauri?Did that ever even get off the drawing board?I haven't heard anything about it in ages.
>>16565865Went nowhere, in limboLaser would be very expensive and very dangerous. Would likely be regulated and operated by government even if built by a private company. It would be a death ray, for all intents and purposes.It’s still a good idea though
>>16565865>>16565883tiny sails traveling at a percentage of the speed of light would ablate long before they reach the closest star from the interstellar medium
>>16565907They'd be up to speed before they get out of our system anyhow.The sail doesn't matter after that.
I wrote about a Blue Sun as a kid...
why can't I be given an aspirational date for the next launch. why can't I have something to look forward to
>>16565939march
>>16565865because you need a way to slow down and an entire laser highway network for it to make sense
>>165659392 weeks
>>16564282>beer glasseshow many blue whales is that?
Elon has embraced the meme.
>>16566011This isn't the first time
/sfg/ has passed away
>>16566043This isn't the first time
>>16566050reusable generals
>>16566051just don't make sense
Whats next on the propaganda agenda?
>>16566053unless they are used at least 10 times
will reusable second stages on Falcon 9 ever materialize or will starship supersede that entirely
>>16566061nobut feel free to keep on dreaminghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4qRY3h_eo
>>16566061Neither.
>>16566075goddammit, wrong link. fuck you, youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFFiubtC3c
>>16566077boy that looks like it would've been gigakino
>>16566080we were robbed, thank you mr. mustard
>>16566011Because his dad read the book obviously. How are people this retarded?
>>16565140
>>16566100>his dad read the booksource?
>>16565944>because you need a way to slow downNo you don't>and an entire laser highway network for it to make senseNo you don't
>>16566102>Titan brighter than Mars at nightAnon I have some bad news for you.
>>16566113No, don't tell him. I don't think he's gonna be able to take it.
>>16566011>mr. president, the chosen one is now aware of the prophecy
saw some recent report that said the first trillionaires will happen in the next 10 years, and elon is probably going to be one of themhttps://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/billionaire-wealth-surges-2-trillion-2024-three-times-faster-year-while-numberthats definitely enough money to start a mars colony
Phobos jumpscare.
>>16566141Surprise potato.
>>16566112then build one I'm waiting
>>16563887Are you ready for the expendable rocket revolution which will turn re-use into old space?
>>16566217Care to elaborate?
>>16566217this seems incredibly schizo
>>16566218>>16566223Carbon nanotubes and automated manufacturing will make rockets so cheap that it's more economically to just use expendable rockets because you don't have to sacrifice delta-v for landing fuel and equipment and you don't need to waste land and money on catch, maintenance, inspection infrastructure. We are not there yet but maybe in the second half of this century.
>>16563887
>>16566140Sorry, he has that money earmarked for buying more social media companies.
>>16564096>on Earth it's not really the atmosphere that protects us from rads, it's our magnetosphereThats complete bullshit.
>>16566228Carbon nanotubes will never be cheaper that steel, and certainly not manufacturing things from them. You're just spewing IFLS-tier buzzwords.
>>16565845I miss the colored logo. Even they got fucked by the oversimplified logo meme
starship-able
>>16566266breedable
>>16566230With his mind he projects the psychic field that guides every starlink satellite in orbit
>>16565939>>16565942
>>16565944slowing down is the easy partonce you're in a star system you can use stellar wind and radiation pressure to passively slow down
>>16566100are you retarded?his dad read the book and simply planned for his son to become a trillionaire rocket enjoyer?
>>16566230Von is doing a shit job by the looks for flight 7
>>16566344kek
>>16566344hmm >:(
>>16566344lol
wen colony drop
new 'berghttps://arstechnica.com/features/2025/01/after-the-success-of-new-glenn-blue-origin-to-focus-on-launching-frequently/
>>16566399there doesnt seem to be any new info in the article
>>16566349Mexican slave-welders messed upthey will be deported after their Indian manager is done flogging them (he will also be deported)
>>16564839 >>16566246 >>16564381 >>16564230 >>16564178 this is the brigading mass-report discord hugbox at work keeping the quality of discussion lowthey are mad simply because I mentioned artificial EMF rad shielding, a technology being developed by NASA with several working prototypesthese retards didn't even know about this shit until I mentioned it and simply expected Mars mission astronauts to be irradiated with no protection at allhttps://technology.nasa.gov/patent/KSC-TOPS-97>Deployed Electromagnetic Radiation Deflector Shield "provides a magnetic field that will deflect SEPs and CMEs and other harmful solar and cosmic rays away from a manned spacecraft, robotic spacecraft, or manned extra-planetary base stations using an electromagnet that is deployed between the spacecraft station and the source of radiation and creates a magnetosphere or zone of minimal radiation"https://www.nasa.gov/general/spacecraft-scale-magnetospheric-protection-from-galactic-cosmic-radiation/"optimal shielding configuration has been realized during the phase I study, and it is referred to as a Magnetospheric Dipolar Torus (MDT). This configuration has the singular ability to deflect the vast majority of the GCR including HZE ions. In addition, the MDT shields both habitat and magnets eliminating the secondary particle irradiation hazard, which can dominate over the primary GCR for the closed magnetic topologies"https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/nmp/st5/SCIENCE/magnetosphere.html"magnetosphere is a strong magnetic field that surrounds our planet. Acting as a shield, it deflects most solar energetic particle radiation that emanates from the Sun. For along with light, hot gases spew from the Sun and travel at a speed of a million miles an hour through space. They travel so fast that scientists call them collectively the "solar wind." As the hot gases of the solar wind approach Earth, they would singe our atmosphere if not for the magnetosphere."
>>16566412what are your thoughts on Eric Berger's latest article?
>>16566412>brigading mass-report discord hugboxWere you banned from it? 'No Politics' is like the only rule lol
>>16566423nodiscord is cancer and anyone unfathomably waterbrained enough so as to publically admit using it to coordinate activities either benign or malicious on this site should be deported because that constitutes raidingyou have to go back
>>16566435>discord is cancer and anyone unfathomably waterbrained enough so as to publically admit using it to coordinate activities either benign or maliciousI joined a PS2 online group a year or so ago to play SWBFII online with other people, we had 13+ players last night. We play every Sunday, it's a good time. I feel my experience is so disconnected from yours as to be entirely foreign.In space news, Blue Origin is flying New Shepard tomorrow with those 30ish payloads to be tested in simulated lunar gravity for 2 minutes. It's probably a better use of the thing than just sticking richfags on it, presumably somebody's gonna get some good data from this flight.
>>16566442>Blue Origin is flying New Shepard tomorrowwhat?Anyone got any info on the Eris launch? cant see any confirmed launch date
>>16566344wew
we're looking to get rid of the conjoinment ... they are quite annoying aren't they slapping and spitting around? didn't you realize your mom was your twin? hahaha anyways, you'll be just fine soon enough okay? just need to process ALL of those payments ~
>>16566455https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7756>The New Shepard crew capsule is using its Reaction Control System (RCS) to spin up to approximately 11 revolutions per minute. This spin rate simulates one-sixth Earth gravity at the midpoint of the crew capsule lockers.Nothing on Eris other than "NET February"
>>16566460ah thanks. looks like i need a new launch listing pagehttps://www.rocketlaunch.live/?
soon
>>16566469muskrats won't like this one...
>>16566469it's not well talked about but IFT2 went orbital back in 2023
>>16566469now do SLS, new glenn, etc etc
>>16566481i recall that it reached about 26000kmh which must be orbital.
https://spacenews.com/china-embraces-commercial-participation-in-moon-mission-for-the-first-time/>China embraces commercial participation in moon mission for the first time >China’s space agency has accepted the participation of a commercial space company in a lunar exploration mission for the first time in a move which may foreshadow greater commercial lunar activity.>STAR.VISION Aerospace Group Limited, engaged in areas including satellite design, intelligent satellite platforms and AI data analysis, will team up with Zhejiang University (ZJU) and the Middle East Technical University (METU) in Türkiye to develop two, 5-kilogram lunar surface micro-exploration robots. The project has been selected for China’s Chang’e-8 mission which is scheduled for launch in 2028 on a Long March 5 rocket.>STAR.VISION is the first Chinese private enterprise approved by the China National Space Administration (CNSA) to participate in the lunar exploration program, STAR.VISION said in a Jan. 24 statement.
>>16566487its good to see but launch in 2028? you gotta be a little faster than that these days.
>>16566487Is this a step down from the Yutu rovers?
>>16566344left, right, left
>nobody talking about the armsits over
>>16566517
On Mars, I will kiss my girlfriend and have 10 kids. play Nintendo Switch 2, basically just have fun with my crew
>>16566524u can do that on earth tho
>>16566486Not if the trajectory intersects Earth.
>>16566524>play Nintendo Switch 2*Nintendo 64
chances are high that we'll see two starship stacks side by side in starbase this year
>>16566532indeed
>>16566555nice get
if the crew at spacexu is so based why are they not preparing to test orion program after starship delivers the components to orbit for assemble rapid iteration testing and all that
>Elon musk has criticized the architecture of the Artemis Program, calling it an 'unnecessary jobs program' that requires significant modificationWoah Elon, I agree with you but be careful...
>>16566562Orion a shit. You're losing like 50% of the energy in the blast that's facing in the opposite direction. Too inefficient
>>16566588what if instead of a pusher "plate" it had a classic combustion chamber with bell nozzle? would it be good then?
>>16566588>what is a shaped charge
>>16566590yes
>>16566588>Orion a shit. You're losing like 50% of the energy in the blast that's facing in the opposite direction. Too inefficientWho cares? it has several orders of magnitude more energy than chemical propellants.
>>16566593>NSWRVGH! What could have been
>>16566588Turns out that, somehow due to pure magic, nuclear bombs can be shaped to not waste so much energy>magic? this is a science board!Semantics
>>16566517>nobody talking about the thighsYou are all a bunch of queers
^don't open. it makes mustard gas
>>16566613I ain't clicking that shit nigga
>>16566614Lol
>>16566615Did you like the site? I made it
>>16565642yeah that's the interaction of a nuke with the upper atmosphere
>>16566689I don't even know what to say
>>16566699I've always found that "yeah" works great
>>16566705yeah
>>16566661did you get literally any traffic from that
Yes, I gained almost 10 accounts just by doing this (for a site that launched a few days ago, that's a lot)
>>16566717I forgot to put it to reply to your message
>>16566705agreed yeah
I would build my Martian city in the southen section of Gale Crater, Elysium Planitia. Lots of flat land, clay, water, and overall low elevation. You'd have a view of Mount Sharp out the window of the main hub, and roads leading out the crater walls through ancient outflow channels.
>>16566775At the approximate mid-point between Mount Sharp and the crater rim, you would see this (looking at the mountains). An awesome view to wake up to in the morning, and look at during the time spent at the Martian city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5_OI8Dk0YStarlink launch.
>>16566781cool smoke ring
>>16566777Gale Crater was also the landing spot of the Curiosity rover. It captured some inspiring shots during its time there.
>>16566789As well as those iconic blue sunset photos.
Gonna have to attend some job interviews for a good position soon. Is it a good idea to tell them I will not agree to be interviewed by HR people. If they do it I'm walking the fuck away.
>>16566789now lets see Curiosity's wheels
another happy landing
Kino sunset launchI enjoy not listening to announcers
The IAU is such a kiked organisation.I can't wait until we stick it to them and throw away all their retarded rules when we finally touch down on Mars and start naming things how we want.
>>16566808just a couple more launches until it surpasses Proton as the most launched active launcher.
>>16565642>Bad guy in space? Nuke him!>Bad guy on the ground? Nuke him!>Bad guy UNDER the ground? Nuke him!>Bad guy flying over there? Nuke him!What an incredible decade, if only we'd gotten Orion out of it.
>>16566469I would have hated this in 2019/20. Now I laugh.
>>16566828>how can we stop incoming nuclear missiles?>we'll just shoot them down!>but we can't hit a reentry vehicle with an interceptor missile, that's too hard>don't worry, we'll use nukes>how will that work though? what will be the mechanism of destruction?>x-ray emission from our nuke will destroy the reentry vehicle>so we need a nuclear weapon that's optimized for x-ray production? how do we do that?>by using a tamper that's relatively transparent to x-rays>so not depleted uranium like usual, but it needs to be something heavy>SOLID GOLD TAMPERreal origin story of the W71 warhead lmao
>>16566828>just have some guys stand there lmao
>>16566876They seem fine. Doesn't seem like the blast was all that bright even
>>16566872Wasn't that also one of the ideas for neutron bombs? The neutrons would collided with the reentry vehicle and transmute the warhead into cheese
>>16566141Phobos and Deimos need to be converted into stations from the inside
>>16566879Yeah, the W66. The idea was the burst of neutrons would cause the enemy warhead to partially fission (fizzle) far from the target and with a substantially reduced yield.Later, neutron bombs were further developed for their ability to kill people inside of tanks. Tanks it turned out were pretty damn good at keeping their crew alive through the blast effect of nearby nuclear explosions, but couldn't stop neutron radiation from killing the crew outright.
>>16566872>SOLID GOLD TAMPERI suddenly want to go scavenge an old ICBM silo
>>16566890That's a great idea, anon! Which one are you planning to raid?Asking so we don't interfere with each other kek.
>>16566890If you get spotted, just stay out of sight for 30 seconds. The guards will forget they ever saw you and go back to their patrol route.
Falcon is such an ugly rocket. I'm glad New Glenn exists from an aesthetics perspective alone.
>>16566919Fuck off, baldy, NG looks even worse
>>16566919Falcon looks like a stick grenade
>>16566926does your rocket have tasteful wood paneling? I think not
>>16566928kitsch
>>16566928Like an Atari 2600, this thing belongs in my basement.
>>16566537>gundam for scalekek
>>16566699That's insane
>>16566928she's so pretty...those fins are incredibly aesthetic
>>16566933
>>16566797Did you already get pre-screened? I find think it's common to talk to HR before the interview but to talk to technical people during the interview. After all, how the hell would HR evaluate you? On your wardrobe?
>>16566890make sure you bring a cardboard box to hide under
>>16566797Go to the CEO, give him a firm handshake and say that you want a job.
>>16566797This is America’s golden age; fuck HRfags we’re stuffing them in lockers
>>16566961This is China's golden age you moronAmerica's goldenage was 1945-1960
>>16567016china is trying, but the 21st century belongs to America, just as the 20th did.
>>16567016That leaves out the moon landing of 1969, you’re obviously being disingenuous; into the locker you go, slanteyes
>>16567077nothing to talk about man
so now that america is collapsing what will happen to spacex?
>>16567092
https://x.com/tony873004/status/1884065200569278466>Recently-discovered asteroid 2024 YR4 may make a very close approach to Earth in 8 years. It is thought to be 40-100 meters wide. Uncertainty is still high and more and more observations are needed confirm this.
>>16567105it's gonna nail that satellite
>>16567105If it impacted the Earth would it hit India?
>>16567105>>16567106>>16567108Wikipedia has a Hazard Corridor
>>16567098look at the markets anonits all red
>>16567105SOOOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYA4gT7VGU
>>16567109>MumbaiWe can only hope. Something this size could easily pull off a multi-megaton event
>>16566597It can yet be.Better Isp and Thrust than almost any option that doesn't require fusion.
>>16567114have funhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eulqemWeiA
>>16567112I am in the stock market, anon, so I am very aware. AI stocks are getting a much needed correction, this is healthy.
>>16567105>YR4 illuminates the cloud tops in this photograph from the International Space Station as it soared 262 miles above Namibia near the Atlantic coast.
>>16567105Give it a boop when it's out at perihelion, we'll be fine.
>>16567109>Mumbai, Nigeria or VenezuelaIt's perfect
>>16567109Muskbros...
>proliferated space based interceptors
>>16566442dude my sub-reddit community is so tightnit and hecking wholesomewe have matching usernames, coordinate snuggle sessions, carebear conventions, and post on anonymous image boards together all the timemy experience is so disconnected from yours as to be entirely FOREIGN
>>16567127don't be mean anon. after all, we are all here for one reason:TITAN
>>16567109https://groups.io/g/mpml/topic/110849089>2024 YR4 is currently Torino level 3 - the first to reach this rating in the history of the Sentry risk table (although Apophis did reach Torino 4). All of the virtual impactor sources generally agree - CNEOS gives 1.2%, NEODyS gives 1.4%, and ESA gives 1.1%. Further, the virtual impact isn't very far from nominal, within 0.4 sigma for all for sources.>The Line of Variations of the impact range covers a range just south of Costa Rica (earth-grazing), passing over Colombia and Venezuela into the Atlantic, through the Gulf of Guinea (an almost vertical impact at up to 83 degrees), Nigeria, Cameroon, Central African Republic, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Yemen, the Arabian Sea, and finally again a grazing impact over central India.>At present, the ephemeris uncertainty is low enough that it's very unlikely that we will be able to confirm or rule out an impact before it fades out of detectability. YR4 will be magnitude 25 by the time the uncertainty reaches 0.1", and magnitude 27 by the time it reaches 0.5". If an impact is not ruled out through extraordinary observation efforts by then, it will take until 2028 for it to be brought enough to observe again, at which point it will become brighter than magnitude 21 and be relatively trivial to recover. Although using current published observations it's possible that an impact may be ruled out with 0.5" of uncertainty, the following section should explain why I personally doubt that will happen.
>>16567140>I searched a couple days ago for negative observations of 2024 YR4 during its 2016 approach. Although the virtual impactor has no images deep enough to rule it out (A DECam image is frustratingly only half a magnitude too shallow to potentially detect it) I can rule out a great deal of its non-impacting orbits using a number of Subaru images taken in early August 2016. Among these, I can rule out a great deal of the 'early' side of the line of variations. The asteroid will most likely not make an early perigee anywhere between 120,000 and 1,000,000 kilometers, or between 350,000 and 740,000 on the 'late' side. Working with Daniel Bamberger on calculations, this rules out something between 60% and 80% of possible non-impacting trajectories, and makes the actual impact chance in reality at something between 3% and 6% (closer to 6% if you include the first observation, a singlet from ATLAS on the 25th on which the orbit depends greatly, and closer to 3% if you ignore it). I personally consider the measurement and its associated uncertainty trustworthy, but I can understand others disagreeing so that lower chance is included for completeness.>So: in reality, the impact chance of 2024 YR4 is much higher than currently reported due to negative observations, possibly as high as 6%. I invite people to double check and verify my claims here, because if they are correct this may have some pretty significant consequences for the approach to this potential impactor and may need reflecting in public-facing announcements.
>>16566412>As the hot gases of the solar wind approach Earth, they would singe our atmosphere if not for the magnetosphere."Over how many millennia?
an asteroid that decimates mumbai would do double duty and also increase interest in planetary protection missions.
>>16567140We need to launch a probe that can push the asteroid into a guaranteed impact with the Earth
>>16567131Anon should chill.
>>16567141>impact chance of 2024 YR4 is much higher than currently reported due to negative observations, possibly as high as 6%god, a man can only dream
/sfg/ is deceased.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/prioritizing-military-excellence-and-readiness/>(iii) Development and deployment of proliferated space-based interceptors capable of boost-phase intercept;Anon wake up, we are getting Brilliant Pebbles!
>>16567126>PSBI>Pebbles, Smart, Brilliant, Illustrious
>>16567126>>16567166I'll believe it when I see it, for now I'll remain skeptical.
>>16567164I just lurk and I feel bad.
>>16567177we can feel bad together
>>16567176Starshield
>>16566593Just how big would the engine need to be for this design to be efficient?
>>16567109And nothing of value was lost.
>https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1884108149839499628>Elon wants Congress to issue him a letter of marque and reprisal so he can hire mercenaries to capture billions in cash from cartels for him to spend on rockets
>n-word body physics
>>16567024the moon is the decline, a spectacle we couldn't afford to distract from social chaos starting to tear at the fabric of our country
>>16567166>boost phase interceptoh shit thats huge, that means hitting missiles while they're still in the middle of launching
https://www.youtube.com/live/hQ6KqrVh88Uwatching this on the pooper rn
>>16566344I blew air out my nose
there's almost no discussion online about the iron dome from a space perspective
>>16567262>Iron Dome was built [for protection] against slow, low-altitude, low-impact missiles that were basically made in garages. Iron Dome does not protect against cruise and ballistic missilesbecause it's not space related
>>16567264obviously im referring to the space portion of the system
>>16567126>proliferated>space-based>boost-phase interceptNo mistaking it, that's Brilliant Pebbles.
>>16567236It's the only practical way of doing it properly. After boost phase you have to deal with decoys and maneuvering vehicles.
>>16567268What makes you think there is one? Iron dome interceptors are all on the ground, the radars are almost certainly all on the ground, and it's dubious if it can even intercept IRBMs let alone ICBMs.
>>16567280its literally in the press release, a whole paragraph about it >>16567166
>>16567302That's just confusing then, because usually Iron Dome refers to the Israeli system, but now there's two of them. You're right, the Iron Dome 2: American Boogaloo is definitely space based. There's no technical details on it yet, but yea it obviously requires many space-related assets, such as launch detector satellites and the interceptors themselves.
>>16567109>>16567114INDIA SUPER POWER 2030
>>16567305Think you have the wrong target Chang.
>>16567131>Titan is on the orbital plane of Saturn>fuck it I'm drawing the rings at an angle anyhow
>>16567144Seriously though, with all the launch capability that SpaceX has lately, we need to launch missions to land transponders onto these big rocks so that we can track them better. Add a camera and we can get some nice pics on the way in too.Of course the tricky part is slowing down to land on it instead of just flying by.
>>16567302>>16567304The proposed American system is presently named "Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture" (PWSA), the "Iron Dome" in the title of that executive order is merely conveying the broad intent by way of analogy.https://www.sda.mil/sda-layered-network-of-military-satellites-now-known-as-proliferated-warfighter-space-architecture/
>>16567309the orbital plane is inclined 0.348 degrees relative to the Saturnian equator looks fine
>Apollo 1 and Challenger both happened on the same day>Columbia happened a few days later
Brilliant Pebbles anon status: Vindicated. Moisturized. Happy. In his Lane. Focused. Flourishing
>>16567105nails the ISS, eliminating the need for spacex to launch its deorbit module and also meaning that Boeings two stranded astronauts are no longer stranded.
>>16567126I hope Elon will at the very least get all the launch contracts (lol, who else could do it?) but I wonder if America needs him to start making weapons, too. Mars will eventually need to defend itself.I assume the biggest reasons not to are 1) that it makes the federal government stronger and 2) it would potentially complicate international operations of his other companies.
>>16567143imagine the smell
>>16567401Nudging an asteroid like this onto a "preferred path" is the next-gen planetary engineering we ALL have been waiting for.I AM READY. Finally, energies which dwarf our nuclear arsenal have been harnessed, we must use these powers wisely.The fact that celestial impactors favor equatorial regions naturally is just a happy coincidence. Because these are the same places where the impacts can create the change we want to see in the world. Tom Mueller of Impulse Space is hard at work, making the dream a reality. The next decade is gonna be glorious!
>>16567355>boing incompetent enough to leave astronauts in space for 8 more yearsyeah I can believe that
>>16567308Nah, China has already done it's damage, we need to smother the Indian emissions baby in its' cradle
>>16567425Imagine digging new canals with impact craters. Plowshare a bitch
I believe a high-energy cosmic ray must have given Mark Kelly a space lobotomy when he was on the international space station
>>16567459make your case, im listening
>>16567331Actually Apollo 1 and Challenger were 19 years apart. Apollo happened on Friday while challenger happened on Tuesday. If you meant to say date, it's also wrong, since Apollo 1 was January 27th and Challenger was January 28th.
>>16567456We could get control of Panama back and widen the canal at the same time! It would make it a lot easier to keep the rest of Latin America in line with US interests, too.
>>16567473Exactly.Culebra Cut? This used to take great effort. NO MORE!Culebra Cut 2040 will be 25 km across and at least 1 km deep.Once planned, its scheduled to be completed in 60 seconds, with a budget of $0. (excluding redirect vehicle).Schedule and budget concerns? Not this time.
>>16567123you have confused your terms, perihelion is closest to the sun
New Shepard soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iieQUPL-0uQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGnmQJ9xqVo
>>16567508She misses New Glenn (twice) but not this?
>XB-1 will silently break the sound barrier today hosted by Concorde British Airway's chief pilot>X-59 is STILL doing afterburner tests, simulations, and risk analysis in a garageNASA LMAOhttps://www.youtube.com/live/-qisIViAHwI?si=obFZuM5edzSaTbY3
>HOLDAHAHAHHAHAH
>>16567511>using starlink for streamingbased
>>16567525Either you use starlink or you show the audience a cringe 3D simulation
TOO MUCH CLOUDY
>>16567112>markets>we're beating China because Netflix is a billion dollars Come back to reality faggot, we're beating China because we're going to Mars
>>16567309Anon you do know Titan is round, right? And you can stand on most of it? Are you saying the horizon should be parallel to the rings? You gotta lay off the Minecraft
>>16567508that looks like a penis
Clouds absolutely destroy rockets.
no Boom XB-1 thread?
>>16565538Issiac Awthuw unironically suggests this in his Mars terraforming video
>>16567105How much energy would that be if it impacted?
>>16567549>Issiac Awthuwlel didn't he have some surgery to fix that? didn't watch him for quite a while now
>>16567547/sci/ is a dead board, nobody would post in it. Only /sfg/ matters
>>16567552Just regular speech therapy. I think he's improved a lot in the past couple years, but it's hard to tell since I've gotten used to it.
>>16567553im very disappointed in all of you.
>20 minute holdblorg keeps on disappointing
>>16567511oh shit he's in full afterburner
They should put new shepard on a new glenn booster. it should work
>>16567547>>16567511It's a plane, what's the big deal?
>>16567562he's supersonic
>>16567563So? Planes have been doing that for decades, there used to be a passenger plane that did that regularly. What makes this one special?
>>16567562Its success today means we are finally getting permission from the FAA to stop using hyper-optimized Boeing goyslop airliners and legalize SSTs again
>>16567565Because it breaks the sound barrier without making the SKCHRCKKACK sound and breaking windows
>>16567565NASA invented it with sticks back in 1850. Nothing new
>>16567565yeah there used to be, there is not anymorethis is the first one that is built by a man and not a government though
>>16567568Also it is the first supersonic plane by a private company. We had newspace come out and now we have newaerospace
>>16567568no that's the other one, this is the private one
>>16567573XB-1 is also a quiet plane anon. They both need to be to prove to the FAA that this is a thing
those are some very long landing gears
>first private supersonic>doesn't deafen youNeat, thanks for answering /sfg/.
>>16567575Dont need to prove shit to the FAA anymore
>>16567578No problem>>16567579Orange man isn't going to disband the FAA and unless you enjoy being arrested and your planes thrown into a trash compactor, you won't build SSTs, chud
>>16567579>what life would be like without the FAA
>>16567580>isn't going to disband the FAAYou have no fucking clue what's coming lmao
>>16567583you have to go back
clear is exploring flightradar again
>cryingKino
>>16567585It's just like in Harry Potter. Musk and his evil puppets (straight out of Avengers Age of Ultron) pulled a hostile takeover of The Shire
>>16567587I wish youtube had realtime translation for non-english streams, I don't speak nipponese.
>immediate marvelposting and redditseethingGOOD MORNING
>>16567593I am unironically considering learning it just for her. Yes yes I know how cringe that sounds.
>WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL EVERYONE CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS>MAKE AMERICA BOOM AGAINMABA
>>16567592Elon is firing all the whites in the Federal Gov't, replacing them with Indians.
>>16567568what do they do with the booms though? if you could capture them in a tank and let them out over the ocean it wouldn't be a problem
>i will never be a test pilot
CLEAR SPEAKING ENGLISH
>>16567607 i want anal with kuria
>>16567601Iirc it sort of bends the waves apart and might "pop" one or two eventually over time which isn't very loud (essentially a bunch of doors being randomly opened and closed nearby) instead of collecting several waves and immediately making them violently explode sounding like a gunshot as it breaks through them. That's why every quiet SST you have seen so far has a needle fuselage and those very streaked bended looking wings. The key to breaking the sound barrier quietly is to not break it and not force your way through it basically
>>16567552I thought he was Cajun
>>16567608disgusting perv. She only deserves wholesome vaginal sex with handholding in the missionary position
>>16567610to break or not to break
>>16567612We can do that too
>>16567608>>16567612is it possible to view some photographic evidence of this 'kuria' you claim exists?
What's the point of going mach 1? just go mach 2 or 3 at that point
>>16567619here you go anon
>>16567623hot
>>16567622It doesn't have the engines to fly nearly that fast. It's a cheap test plane.
>hold restartedeven clear is making fun of the launch
>>16567627So they built this for nothing. they need a plane 10X bigger
THIS IS IO IN TRUE COLOUR.NOT THE UGLY PISS YELLOW ON WIKIPEDIA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE ON THE INTERNET.WHY DID NASA INTENTIONALLY RUIN THE IMAGE OF IO?
IM BEARING WITH YOU
>>16567632>they built this for nothingThey built this to make SSTs legal. They aren't going to build an empty fucking passenger airliner just to prove this to the FAA, they would go bankrupt. Overture is the full-scale passenger version. It is being built.
A nice thing about this all day hold is that you get long periods of hearing only that nice rocket ready hum in the background. its soothing
>>16567634Bullshit, sulfur is extremely yellow
>>16567623lmao>>16567634They don't want you to go there, that's why. They know you would if you could.
>>16567636is it possible to view some photographic evidence of this 'overture' you claim exists?
>>16567511Somebody give the guy a Beemans
>>16567643>take some photos of parts and fuselage sections in a facilitySure lemme just give them a call and let them know anon wants PROOFSConstruction of prototype will be finished in 18 months according to them, from today's Q&A
>conditions have to be perfect all the way along the flight pathnot getting very positive vibes about this NS launch today
>>16567641https://www.planetary.org/articles/2629
>>16567641It's even more yellow when faggot scientists crank up the saturation to fantasy levels
>>16567425>>16567456>>16567473>>16567483Based and Herrick pilled
>>16567648Only one way to find out
>>16567425>Nudging an asteroid like this onto a "preferred path" is the next-gen planetary engineering we ALL have been waiting for.There was a study in the 70s or so with a proposed candidate they considered back then. It is quite cool.
putting the flight in space flight general
>>16567654the space in spaceflight originally came from aerospace
/sfg/ - Supersonic Flight General
Weather and a craft issue. its not happening today is it
SCRUB
BLUE SCRUBSCRUB ORIGIN
>pay $400k to go on a 5 minute joyride>cant go because its partly cloudythe industry is a joke
>>16566588its called shaped charges dumb ass. if you are going to shit on orion without looking like a retard at least start with what the pusher plate should be made out of that it does not disintegrate after hundred of detonations
>>16567671>what the pusher plate should be made outDiamond, the hardest metal.
>Hi everyone>I have super exciting news! >I've been chosen as an ambassador for the 'Michibiki' series, which is part of Japan's super cool Quasi-Zenith Satellite System! >I'm going to share lots of fun facts about Michibiki >The 6th Michibiki satellite is set to launch on February 1, 2025, so stay tuned! https://x.com/clearusui/status/1884295260911853633
>>16567679Isn't diamond fragile as fuck? Hardness isn't everything
>>16567680why is clear showing us her ass? is she a slut?
>>16567681A hammer strike can shatter one, idk how one would react to repeated nuclear blasts though.
>>16567706I think diamond doesn't like radiation
>>16567654Keep in mind that major airlines buy these planes in advance before the official product is released. Watch as China claims they did it first two weeks from now.
>>16567655They used to call it aeronautics. Aerospace is the portmanteau of that and outer space, due to the large engineering overlap.
National AeroSpace AdministationNASA
>>16567592The federal government is the absolute best place to deploy horrendous tech-dystopia workforce management tactics, I support this 100%
>>16567592Reddit commies need to be necked
>>16567718Japan Airlines signed to buy 20 Overtures, United Airlines will start off buying 15, and American Airlines will start with an order 20
>>16567742Were so fucking back. China will soon by theirs as they will kneel.
supersonic flight is dead on arrival with starship E2E
>>16567757>starship E2Elol
>>16567757Lol. Lmao even
>>16567757E2E will be military only
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>>16567784I'm comfy here though
>>16567787you have what, three hours left here?
>>16567787its just one thread over anon....ONE thread
>>16567683This end needs to be pointing towards Earth if she wants to go to space today
>>16567755where do I buy a ticket? or should I just make one in photoshop? can I pay with a picture of what I think money might look like in the future?
>>16568113so you're saying that rockets are inherently immodest. interesting
