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This thread has been up for several minutes and I still see no "powdered landing" and "litho-breaking" jokes
>>16862428A FALCON 9 BOOSTER JUST LANDED!
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>>16862432>several minutes6 seconds too early
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1996210022997520726>Well, no double Japanese satellites launch inside 30 minutes this weekend! QZS-5's launch has been delayed due to problems with the Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) on the H3 2nd stage:
India and Russia are setting up some pretty big moves.https://www.etvbharat.com/en/bharat/indias-space-push-nsil-lines-up-big-rocket-production-new-satellites-and-gsaas-model-for-global-market-enn25120205449>NSIL is preparing to realize more than 60 LVM3 heavy-lift vehicles entirely through Indian industry over the coming years. The move is expected to dramatically scale up India’s launch capacity for deep-space missions and big-ticket commercial payloads. To tap the surging global small-satellite market, NSIL plans to produce 15 SSLV rockets in three years. For the first time in India’s history, an entire batch of PSLVs, PSLV-N1 to PSLV-N5, will be produced by industry and launched under NSIL.https://www.wionews.com/india-news/-russia-and-india-set-to-ink-rocket-engine-deal-says-roscosmos-director-general-dmitry-bakanov-1764759415054>Russia’s space agency Roscosmos is poised to deepen its longstanding partnership with India through a new agreement on rocket engine technology, signaling a major step forward in bilateral space collaboration amid a competitive global market. Dmitry Bakanov, Director General of Roscosmos, speaking to WION said that the contract for the licensed production of rocket engines in India is expected imminently. “India is our great partner in space, and in the near future we have to co-operate in engines,” he said. “We will sign a contract on the engine program. We give some engines to India and, by license, make production here." Asked about the focus when it comes to rocket engines, he did not give the detail of the models involved. This engine collaboration stands apart from other joint efforts, including Russia’s support for India’s ambitious space initiatives.This is going to be a big help for both parties. If India licenses the RD-191M they'll finally be free of the hell of trying to get the SCE-200 working, and the RD-0169 that RKK Energia is working on for the Amur could actually be used to power India's NGLV.
>>16862441I think the american empire should adopt a zero-tolerance policy and sabotage russia, china, and india from even getting to LEO
>>16862443How?
>>16862428Just found this album and its awesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HZAc7EKFJQ
>>16862446Taint the fuel, open ghost company middlemen to supply faulty aerospace parts, sanction europe for providing any support, have the CIA install insiders within the factory assembly lines who knowingly fuck up installation of parts, nuke the subhuman cities to glass
>>16862441@grok summarize this for me
>>16862443>american 'empire' sabotages the rest of the world>american 'empire' sabotages itself merely by existingoh great, here's to another 200 years on this gay nigger planet.
>>16862451India's planning to launch a lot more rockets than they currently are, and by getting main propulsion from Russia they actually have something resembling a chance of pulling it off. Meanwhile, Russia finds a new foreign buyer for their engines which will help Roscosmos' current budget woes and potentially push along both nations reusable launch plans. Without outside funding the Amur is never likely to go anywhere and without competent engines the NGLV is never going to happen. Now both seem much more likely, which still isn't exceptionally good but it's better than what the situation was yesterday.
>>16862450>Taint the fuelHow?>open ghost company middlemen to supply faulty aerospace partsWhy would the chinese go with this rather than who they're already supplied by?>sanction europe for providing any supportLmao european support would only slow them down>have the CIA install insiders within the factory assembly lines who knowingly fuck up installation of partsHow?>nuke the subhuman cities to glassWouldn't china nuke america in turn?
>>16862451Russia’s space agency Roscosmos is preparing to sign a contract with India for the licensed production of rocket engines, as stated by Director General Dmitry Bakanov in an interview with WION. The agreement emphasizes liquid-propellant engines essential for launch vehicles, though specific models were not disclosed. This initiative builds on decades of Indo-Russian space ties, dating back to the 1970s, including the launch of India’s first satellite and training of its first astronaut. Separately, Russia continues to assist with India’s Gaganyaan human spaceflight program by providing customized seats and life-support equipment. Bakanov commended India’s fast-paced progress in rockets and satellites, noting the competitive global space market and opportunities for orbital interaction.
>>16862443I made a simple image, so even you can understand.
>>16862461space: ours
>>16862461made a big mistake by not labeling space
>>16862461>europe unmarkedkek
>>16862446Golden Dome the whole earthThe easiest way to prevent missiles and aircraft from reaching America is to blow them up well before then, which also gives you time for multiple attempts if necessary.Then you can use it against any unauthorized launches
>>16862461Red: AmericaWhite: Belongs to AmericaBlue: Belongs to America[not pictured: the rest of the universe, which also belongs to America]
>>16862461>he made the map red, white and blue
>>16862466so a space embargo
https://x.com/Pleiades7go/status/1995085664522846406>This is the topic that I've brought to you as a fantasy a few times on this account: The study for "2061 Halley's Comet Exploration" is underway! It's by authors from Italy and the UAE. It involves reversing the orbit with a Jupiter swingby to rendezvous. The study considers a rendezvous mass of 1t, equipped with an RTG of 600W and Hall thrusters of 36mN. A launch by 2040 is said to be necessary https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032063325001321
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1996159709360087339>V/T profile of the ZQ-3 first stage (yellow line). A classic shape. Due to the landing site downrange only 390km apart, the stage may still in super/trans sonic when landing burn ignited. May be one of the reasons why they need 5 engines for the landing burn.[from the Rocket Emporium discord]>Landspace released a promotional video, but missed half a second of the first-stage flight sequence at 00:53. Based on the commonly used speed-altitude curves in China, the left side uses 50 km/h and 500 m/s as units for altitude and speed, respectively. Then the first-stage shutdown speed is approximately 1700 m/s. This speed is much lower than the F9's 2200-2700 m/s and the NG's first two flights at approximately 2000 m/s. However, the ballistic peak of the first-stage powered phase at 134 seconds is close to 120 km, significantly higher than the F9's 155-second first-stage powered phase. This indicates that the ZQ3 uses a high-trajectory ballistic trajectory to reduce the first-stage range to meet the 390 km downrange requirement, but this results in a steeper reentry phase, requiring a longer reentry ignition.
>>16862473>Before reentry ignition, the velocity was approximately 1550-1600 m/s. After braking, the velocity was around 750-800 m/s, indicating the rocket decelerated by about 800 m/s. It then accelerated to 850 m/s before air resistance exceeded gravity, causing the rocket to begin its descent. This is a normal phenomenon. Taking the NG-2 as an example, the NG-2 started at 2043 m/s during reentry ignition braking, ended at 1436 m/s, and then further accelerated to 1454 m/s during descent before air resistance exceeded gravity, leading to deceleration. This is also normal and consistent with our earlier point that the steep trajectory and excessive weight of the first stage necessitate a longer reentry ignition time and greater fuel consumption, most likely due to all five swaying engines working together to decelerate as quickly as possible.>The telemetry data for the landing phase is minimal. If the slight change in slope at the end of this line does indeed originate from landing ignition, it suggests that due to its greater weight, landing ignition likely began in the supersonic/transonic range, unlike the F9 which ignites at approximately Mach 0.7-0.9. The presence of transonic speeds at this altitude indicates the rocket needed rapid deceleration in the subsequent phase. It's possible that landing ignition involved igniting one engine first, then activating the remaining four to decelerate as quickly as possible, before shutting down the outer four and relying on the center engine for landing.
>>16862471>studyt-thanks europe
>>16862469Sure, why not?
>>16862471>imagine what it would be like if someone else explored the universeeurope really is the cuckold of spaceflight
>>16862447based. I'm fond of "Go!" for launch day hype
>>16862481its really cool stuff. can't believe i never saw it until just now.
>>16862471>only 1 t>arrival date more 35 years away>multiple gravity assistsAAAAGHGHGGHGGH4192?=)¨¡"#:%%#;
>>16862485Once again I am calling for a complete moratorium on deep space science missions until we after we develop more effective propulsion systems. No publicly funded space mission should take more than a decade just to get the point where it can begin its work.
>>16862485The worst thing is that they would explore like only one or two of these destinations at a time. As in, there are hundreds, thousands of >1km celestial bodies in our solar system, yet there's not enough 'funding' to do more. Think of us poor peasants who love dwarf planets like Makemake or Eris, we are waiting in line after Marsfags, Venusfags, Jupiterfags, Saturnfags, etc etc. At this pace it would literally take more than a thousand years to have a picture of Dysnomia or Orcus, fuck this bullshit.
>>16862433https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1sfYBSOS2k
>>16862461I'm not American but you need to cope and go the fuck back. They'll have whatever they want as long as they can take it.
>>16862475worse material science in turn leads to reignition in more challenging transonic airflow condition.it would be easy to think f9 was designed from the ground up as reusable launcher if you don't know any better. everything just fit.
>>16862441India planning to expand their existing rocket fleet is fucking retarded. Reusable is the future, just dump all the budget into reusable rockets development now, instead of wasting it on scaling up production of expandable rockets. Look at China, they scrapped most of their existing expandable rocket R&D and expansion plans 5 years ago and completely switched to reusable rockets development. They even had the balls to cancel the 80% completed LM-9 in favor of a Starship clone that was super untested back in 2020.
>>16862507Does reusability matter if your flight rate is as low as India’s is? I think not
>>16862485don't worry the UAP tech will save us
>>16862508argumentum ad Tory Brunom
So let's stop instantaneous communication for 8 billion people on Earth, so you don't have to do a tad more image processing in your hobby tier job that doesn't benefit anyone.Lord Astronomers are insufferable.
>>16862508Well if they want to expand their flight rate, maybe reusable rockets would help? If anything, their low flight rate is just a good excuse to completely pause any expansion plan of existing rockets and to dump all that money into reusable rocket R&D instead. Honestly, like everything in India, this just smells like corruption. Someone higher needed that contracts, and so they were getting those expandable rockets, even if it eats into the reusable R&D budget.
>>16862507ISRO is poised for the next innovation: expendable astronautsor since every culture gets their own word like cosmonaut and taikonaut, perhaps they can be called copronauts
>>16862511If comm sats are in the way of your orbiting telescope, then you haven't put it high enough. ESL2 should be about right.
>>16862514Lol copronauts
Someone needs to update this chart soon. The CZ-12A, TL-3 and Kinetica-2 are expected to launch this month, with the Kinetica-2 and TL-3 maybe slipping into January. Nebula-1 and Pallas-1 will likely launch in the 1st quarter of 2026. The Hyperbola-3, LM-10A and Gravity-2 will launch in the 2nd half of 2026. So that's 7 different chinese rockets that will be attempting to land in 2026.
>>16862512If they don't have payloads, no reason to increase launch rates, and it would mean money going to different companiesPeople like the current state of affairs
>>16862511all the more incentive to advance in space capability so that putting and repairing/servicing scopes in HEO or L2 or wherever is no big deal
astronomy and astrology are of equal relevance to the world
>>16862515Not even a real problem. The Astromutts are whining because old observatories in LEO, that are already EOL might be impacted, and hobby tier small sats like Xuntian.Modern scopes are in higher orbit or at an L to avoid these issues.
>>16862469Yeah, like we should have been doing for decades already
>>16862428Could we mine asteroids using big fuck off mirrors to melt them? Seems like that would get around any dust issues.
SETI is more important than colonizing Mars.
>>16862518There will be a culling after the 2-3 most promising are identified
>>16862522>astroonomy vs astrologyBoy, did I use to get angry when I was a child and full-grown-ass adults would conflate the two of them together.
>>16862529Astronomy will give us the Akashic records, which is basically astrology on steroids.
>>16862512It needs more than just "divert the budget to reusable rockets." India's in a similar situation to where China was in the late 90s. They've got no domestic experience designing their own rocket engines and even if they did they don't have the material science or industrial base needed to build them. That's why the SCE-200 has been stalled out for so long; India outsourced their engine development (again) to Ukraine only to get scammed by the small fact that everyone who designed "Ukrainian" engines during the Soviet era happened to work in a Moscow design bureau. India throwing money at the problem isn't going to help because that problem is several issues downstream of the first things you need to really make progress.Which is why India would have been much better off building a clone of the OmegA. They're hopeless when it comes to liquid-fueled engines but they have plenty of experience and tech base when it comes to building solid-fuel systems.
>>16862528That will be another 3-5 years down the line. There's enough launch contracts for all the companies to share for now. China is utterly desperate for launch services right now.
https://www.wsj.com/business/blue-origin-moon-mission-plan-spacex-9c6b9595>How Blue Origin Plans to Beat SpaceX to the Moon
>>16862533woopshttps://archive.ph/ProQ2
Inshallah China will try to start a war over Taiwan before they can establish too large of a presence off Earth, that way we can nix their space ambitions. I don't look forward to people whining about some humanitarian crisis when their lunar colony needs to be cleared out.
If China can get their F9 clone to land in 2026, when do you see Europe/India/Russia/Japan landing their first F9 clone?
>>16862538Never, they don’t have justification to do it
leaker on L2 says a batch of full size Starlink V3 will fly on New Glenn in Q2
>>16862541Europe is trying their best to make a reusable rocket.
China will land their f9 clone on the moon before Starship launches once
China is close to total collapse. Failed state by 2030.
>>16862542kek, sfg would collectively kill themselves if that were to be true.
>>16862518I updated the chart in october, I'll update it at the end of the month.
>>16862538If Russia gives the project enough funding, 2030 isn't an unreasonable date for the Amur finally getting to the pad. Russia's got a good bench of propulsion talent and they've got the indusial base to produce the domestic payloads that a vehicle like that would need to be viable. This is unlikely to actually happen because the Russia space program is fairly broke, with most of what they have is being diverted to maintain currently projects that have military importance, like their constellations of military communications and observation satellites. Europe could also get one of their projects done by 2030, if only they could only figure out how to divide up the work so that every country in Europe feels that they're getting more out of building it than they're putting in, which won't happen. Europe needs to get to the point where an individual nation or corporation can pursue a reusable LV as a self-constrained project, but they're at least ten years away from that even being a possibility and even then the SU ministerials will work as hard as they can to prevent it (because it'd be a threat to their ability to take money from other countries via group projects and geo return). Japan is interested in a reusable vehicle, but it's a long term project and not a real priority. They've never had the insecurity about launching on foreign rockets that Europe's got, so they're perfectly comfortable flying payloads on Falcon and just having the H3 around as something that's cheap enough for the missions that are a bit too sensitive to let travel overseas. India is at least twenty years away from being able to build the kind of engines they need for a reusable rocket, and given that they're behind a lot of Starliner's software issues I have doubts about them ever being able to code the guidance software needed to land it. They'd probably just get ChatGTP to vibecode the whole thing.
>>16862557So basically, mid-late 2030s for all 4 of them?
>>16862544Europe “trying” anything is a low bar. Oh, they’re going to take four more weeks of vacation and complain about America? Perhaps they can promise me that the powerpoint will be done by Q4 2028
>>16862575let's not get ahead of ourselves herefirst you need to come up with 10M for a feasibility study so we know if we can deliver your powerpoint by Q4 2028 and do some preliminary derisking analysisshouldn't take more than six to eight months
>>16862566Russia needs to be in a place where they can commit to building both a reusable launcher and a domestic mega constellation for it to launch. After having Starlink related issues in Ukraine they've talked about this being a national priority, so they've got the political interest. It's just a matter of getting into a place where they have the available funding. Mid 2030s isn't unreasonable, but if it doesn't happen by then it'll be because they decided to go ahead with a OneWeb sized constellation lifted by even more Soyuz-2s. I don't think Europe is ever going to be able to, at least not in their current form. Bureaucratic continentalism really needs to die before they'll be capable of any ambitious projects. The good news is that Europe is a powder keg right now and that opens up all kind of interesting (if unpredictable) political possibilities. But probably not before 2035. It's never going to work as a multi-national project and all of their independent spacelaunch companies don't have serious plans for anything larger than Firefly's Alpha. PLD Space's Muria Next is the best that's come forward, but that's got a very vague NET of the late 2030s and is only about even with what Neutron is planning to lift. Japan might just never do it. They're fine just building payloads and leaving launch mostly to other people. They do have the historical habit of licensing rocket tech from America, so it's not unthinkable that they might do something like get a production agreement for Falcon 9 hardware as SpaceX starts to retire the F9 fleet over here. Mitsubishi picks up Falcon tooling for cheap and starts second stage production in Aichi while giving a new home to whichever boosters are long-lived enough to make it to the end of the program. It probably won't happen, but it wouldn't be out of character.
>>16862538Arianegroup will probably fly Maia a few years late by the end of he decade, it's not F9 class but it'll demonstrate propulsive landing.They're unlikely to develop a F9-class RLV that replaces Ariane 6 without ESA funding however.RFA and Isar will probably be able to make a F9 class launcher in the early 2030s, looking at how long it's taking for equivalent small launcher companies in the US and China, I suspect RFA is more likely to scale up than Isar.The italian space agency will keep funding Avio in their plans to make RLV, without massive management change they're not going to have it ready until the 2nd half of 2030s however.PLD, Orbex have plans for F9-class launchers but i'm skeptical there's the interest and market in spain and UK for these.
>>16862583They just don’t have the money nor the free market potential to do any of this. Russia is a huge country on a map – but just like Japan or Italy, despite having a lot of technical expertise they don’t have the numbers to commit to doing something like Falcon 9 or Starship or Starlink.
>>16862511is it really that hard to put a telescope somewhere above LEO?
>>16862611it's not that easy in space telescopery
>>16862611Jeff is working on a new shepard suborbital telescope as we speak
its over https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09759-5
>>16862621Balloon observatories are the future
>>16862621how could anyone see through that thick shell of triangles
>>16862611No. But the cry babies complaining in the Nature paper are PS from Hubble and SOPHIA, so it's their iron rice bowl getting broken.
>1,104 out of 2,463 contractors were selected for golden dome>$151 billion in total funding>the contracts are called Scalable Homeland Innovative Enterprise Layered Defense, or SHIELD>they run through december 2035https://www.defenseone.com/business/2025/12/gargantuan-golden-dome-contract-vehicle-clears-1000-plus-firms-vie-slices-151-billion/409900/>The SHIELD announcement follows other recent Golden Dome-related contracts. Last week, the Space Force awarded several small contracts to develop prototypes of the space-based interceptors envisioned to shoot down ballistic missiles in the initial moments of flight. The service declined to name the defense companies it had chosen, citing national security measures and because the types of contracts awarded were exempt from federal disclosure regulations.>Last Thursday, the service posted a presolicitation notice on SAM.gov asking for prototype ideas for a space-based “kinetic midcourse interceptor,” which would destroy missiles by slamming into them outside the atmosphere. That Applications are due Dec. 7. Winners will receive contracts that, like the ones for the space-based interceptors, won’t require disclosure of the winners.
>>16862621we need to put observatories on the dark side of the moon to permanently silence the astr*nomer menace
What does Hubble even do nowadays apart from produce over-exposed mosaics of gas clouds six gorillion light years away? The only telescopes we should be making at this point are exoplanet telescopes. It is outrageous that time is actually wasted looking at galaxies and globs and nebulas instead of working to determine the properties of stellar systems within 100 LY.
>>16862626$100 billion to SpaceX
>>16862621whatever, who cares, shut upp
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1996326904706572398>Validation testing on a Raptor 3 performing a Starship V3 ascent burn. Multiple versions of this test will cover the different conditions seen by Starship’s three inner engines during its initial climb to spaceSix minutes and 40 seconds of Raptor 3
>>16862634oh man what a clean burn
>>16862634Works pretty good for a not fully assembled engine
>>16862634Factory Starships are going to look so fucking sexy and sleek once the design is finalized and everything approaches final form. If a time traveler showed us pictures of what SS looks like in 2030 I think it would be one of the most exciting vehicles ever to gaze upon
>>16862634>Suddenly, from the shadows -- a fearsome COPV leaps in attack!>What do you do?(D)(U)(->)(->)
>>16862645I will do what no other person has done. I give it my love. Clearly these poor COPVs lash out in anger, not because they are evil, but because they are abused and feel that they are not loved and thus seek attention by any means possible.
>>16862621>hongyan>hongyun>xingwang>guangwang>qianfan>ningxia>yinhezero chance their operators give a fly fuck what nasa astronomers think
>>16862664real
>>16862652this man has befriended the COPVs
However...https://spacenews.com/missile-defense-agency-clarifies-shield-vendor-selection-is-not-a-golden-dome-preview/
>>16862708>Spain and Sweden flag behindwhat?
>>16862710They’ve got everybody’s flags in the training centers. Le epic international program and whatnot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_nationalityHuh. There have been Swedes in Space. Who knew?
isaacman status?
>>16862720The vote is happening on Monday. Should pass
>>16862668Fuck Electrons are really that small?
>>16862720Rookie will be ourguy by monday, God willing
>>16862723yeah they're smaller than protons
>>16862717they are in ESA, most ESA countries have had atleast one astronaut by now
>>16862721>>16862724For some clarification, it's specifically the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation committee vote to advance his nomination that will be happening on Monday, not the final full confirmation vote. Though Berger says that the final vote could happen later next week as well.
>>16862708It's ironic because Spain did indeed take Florida and Texas
>>16862654Xuntian is going to be the worst affected telescope tho.>>16862728There can be batch confirmations now iirc, so it should be faster than the month+ wait expected the first time
>>16862728You know Isaacman will be good bc he kissed a lot of ass just to get back here. At one point it really did seem like he got completely rug-pulled. Rock bottom: 47 was calling him a democrat while Elon was calling the POTUS a pedo lol. And now he has climbed back.Rookie has definitely proven he knows how to handle the shitty political landscape of this cruel world
>>16862724why was this file deleted?
>>16862733Ehh it was a crop job & recolor I did from an original that was just dumped to the NASA image archive today, but after posting I realized my crop was bad. It didn't let the tree "breathe" enough (composition-wise, I mean). And I didn't want to eat into the image limit
Holy autism
+1
Grok?As of late 2024, several European Space Agency (ESA) member states have not yet had a national citizen travel to space. This list includes the following full member states. Because they all suck: EstoniaGreeceIrelandLuxembourgPortugalRomaniaSlovenia
Before the bitching starts:Several other nations had citizens fly as guest cosmonauts/astronauts on US or Russian missions before their countries joined the ESA, or before the formal ESA astronaut corps was established, but the countries listed above are current full members without a national having flown.
>>16862748Some anons put effort and thought before they post. You should try it.
>>16862625>Hubbleabout to fall apart, and can't even get out there to slap duct tape on it anymoregrift to the last drop
>>16862725
Chinese are operating at a level you can't even imagine.
>>16862732It's actually amazing how everything bounced back from that shitty situation.
https://x.com/heospace/status/1996336595394531495>Checking in on a veteran of the early space age. Launched 26 years ago today, this Ariane 4 rocket body carried the Helios 1B and Clementine satellites into orbit and set a record with the 50th consecutive successful Ariane 4 launch.
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1996244599921053747>USSF Space Track has now found the ZQ-3 2nd stage - it looks like the 2nd burn moved it to an eccentric orbit that has a high apogee, but has a low enough perigee for it to re-enter soon: 2025-282A/66877: 142 x 1402 km x 56.95°
>>16862779Slick rocket, it's so sexy
>>16862779so, does this mean a mission failure? didnt reach its target orbit at all, and will burn up?
>>16862769For what purpose? I can see this being useful for something like starship landing on the moon or mars, a good idea even. But what’s the point in doing it for a booster on urf.
>>16862806Easier to lift onto a flat bed truck? You only need a few small cranes instead of a big crane in the middle of the desert.
https://x.com/davill/status/1996372648520257626>Another New Glenn's GS2 is being transported to LC-36 today in preparation for its upcoming hotfire.
>>16862806>For what purpose?A recent college graduate, hired by one of several dozen effectively identical Chinese launch companies, is instructed by his boss to come up with an "original idea" for booster recovery.The stupidity of the idea is irrelevant, only the perceived originality matters.
>>16862813This basically kills ULA if Blue can launch this thing 5-10 times a year, right?
>>16862820Blue is increasingly angry at ULA for throwing their masterpiece engines into the trash. I expected BE-4 to be a one off, but it looks like they are iterating and upgrading it. ULA cannot accommodate changes like that, it would take effort. So, the rift between the companies expands, the tension is palpable. When was the last time you saw Tory & Jeff together, riding horses into the great unknown? Is been ages. The reusable Vulcan 2.0 aint happening, they cannot even sell the company.
>>16862820They're expecting to produce enough GS-2 stages for monthly launches next year, with an eye for a max of 24 launches in 2027 with their current factory layout. This is enough to almost completely monopolize Amazon's output of Leo satellites, which is what Tory was planning on using to keep the lights on in-between national security launches. New Glenn has seven NSSL launches under the current Phase 3 Lane 2 agreement, and if they're more efficient at getting their payloads into space than ULA is (i.e., if they don't leave government hardware sitting in a warehouse for months waiting for a rocket) then there's every chance that ULA gets dropped out of being a primary LSP for the US government when Phase 4 gets awarded in a few years. I don't think ULA will be shut out entirely, but it's easy to see them getting demoted down to Lane 1 with Rocket Lab and Stoke and end up forced into an open competition for every payload they want to launch.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1996387468107743310>Looks like a minor damage of the landing pad & road. It seems the impact point is just located between the pad and road.
>>16862820Amazon might be able to claw back the LEO launches, depending on the contract. But ULA has those NASA reserved Atlas for Starliner -- stop laughing! -- and a thick order backlog for DOD and NRO. At the rate they actually launch, that's a decade of work.
>>16862838They have a backlog until the DoW says that they don't. The whole point of having multiple providers for national security launches was that the providers themselves were interchangeable. If there was an issue with one rocket, a vital payload would be able to catch a ride with another. There's already been a bit of musical chairs with the GPS III payloads, and that's only going to get worse if Vulcan keeps it up with its Delta IV-esq launch rate.
>>16862836Fiery but mostly peaceful lithobreaking event
>>16862842ULA got juiced into those contracts, and it's wishful thinking believing the Corruptopus won't keep paying out. Effing Boeing is still getting contracts even though they've failed at everything for the last 30 years.
>>16862773Wow how did they manage to launch a stage more than 5km long? Why can't we do that today? What has the US come to?
They say Merry Christmas down at Starbasenon of that happy holidays shit
>>16862856uhm did they get a permit for that tree????
Whenever I see a news headline about a rocket incident I completely ignore it and come straight here because at least you autist shills care enough to post kino.
>>16862434how much is a screwdriver like that?
>>16862461>America>not yours >every other shithole on the planet>oursftfy
>>16862469More like a border wall made of guided munitions that encircles the whole planet actually.
>>16862443No need to sabotage Russia, they currently can't launch Soyuz and Progress after the pad damage and may lose the capability altogether after ISS is over.
>>16862462The outer solar system from Mars on, with only a few exceptions has been visited mostly by US probes, so...
Space is American clay, exclusively.Illegal aliens found trespassing in space will be subject to immediate deportation back to Earth, where they belong.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1996395289843036226>Close-up footage when ZQ-3' lift-off. Via SpaceLens
>>16862873Did the upper stage make it to orbit at least?
>>16862856>>16862858when do they static fire the tree?
shithole thirdie earthers (all non-Americans) will remain in their shitholes foreveryou will never into spaceAmerica will liberate the galaxy, bring freedom and democracy to the stars, and effectively contain the decrepitude and wasted potential which defines earthers to their native shithole habitats.
>>16862878two weeks
Preliminary CN launch schedule, expect 1/4 to 1/3 to slip to 2026-3/12 Zhuque-3 (done) JSLC-5/12 Kuaizhou 1A (redo of failed march launch) JSLC-6/12 Hyperbola 1 JSLC-6/12 CZ-8A (Guowang Group 14) WSLC-9/12 CZ-2D/2C JSLC-9/12 CZ-3B (Fengyun-4C) XSLC-10/12 Lijian-1 (9 sats rideshare) JSLC-7-11/12 Ceres-2 (maiden launch) JSLC-12/12 CZ-12 (Guowang Group 15) WSLC-12/12 CZ-12A (maiden launch - recovery attempt) JSLC-Mid Dec CZ-6A (Guowang Group 16) TSLC-17/12 CZ-12H (Maiden launch) Haiyang-20/12 CZ-5 WSLC-25/12 Lijian-1 JSLC-26/12 CZ-8A (Guowang Group 17) WSLC-27/12 CZ-3B (TJS-22) XSLC-31/12 CZ-7A (?) WSLC-Late Dec Tianlong 3 (Maiden launch) JSLC-Late Dec? Kuaizhou 11 (Dier-5) JSLC-Dec? Zhuque-2E (Honghu) JSLC-Dec? Ceres-1S Return to flight Haiyang
>>16862878They're still doing the paperwork to transfer Oleg Artemyev to the naughty list, gotta finish that first
>>16862890Man that’s a lot of launches
>>16862892It's always the same in december in china, expect maybe 15 of these to launch, only slightly above the previous decembers
>>16862879What about the perfidious xenos?
Could anything actually come of this, or is it likely just posturing?
>>16862897"deal" its just words at this point.
>>16862897HAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>16862897>OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman has explored putting together funds to either acquire or partner with a rocket company, a move that would position him to compete against Elon Musk’s SpaceX. >Altman reached out to at least one rocket maker, Stoke Space, in the summer, and the discussions picked up in the fall, according to people familiar with the talks. Among the proposals was for OpenAI to make a series of equity investments in the company and end up with a controlling stake. Such an investment would total billions of dollars over time.>The talks are no longer active, people close to OpenAI said.They dodged a bullet
>>16862897no point in building launch unless you can find a niche market that isn't being served (rocketlab) or you have a way to undercut the competition (spaceX)At this point the companies that will rule the future of space have already been established and there is zero way for anyone else to push their way into the market without UFO tech.It's far too late to start a launch company. It was far too late 10 years ago when spaceX landed the first falcon 9.
>>16862902Stoke or Open AI?>>16862904Also should mention the "Anyone but spaceX" market now belongs to Blue Origin since they have now demonstrated landing capability.
https://x.com/TAbusnardo/status/1996423635960230144>According to their signed contract, [Landspace] are expected to launch a Qianfan batch with ZQ-3 in Q1 2026. If this is a polar Qianfan launch like the previous ones, they'll have to build a new landing pad south of Jiuquan (should only take a few weeks). The plan may have changed tho
>>16862902Stoke chad CEO must have been loling when he heard altman wanted to buy him out and told the vile kike demon to get bent.
Inspiring
https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1996201367598456935>Just In: Russia agrees to transfer 100% TOT of RD-191M semi-cryogenic rocket engines to Indian ISRO. Will be used in GLSV Mk3/LVM3 to increase GTO payload from 4.2 tons to 6.5-7 tons.It's happening
>>16862538Honda already landed a rocket, surprised no one here caught that, or that they did it before china. After spacex and blue origin, they are the only ones who did it and landed at the first try.
spehs>>16862428Also I thought the thing had a solid-engine for landing holy kek
>>16862936cringe
>>16862936"If they don't agree, scream like a proud lioness and kill all the children!"
>>16862897This guy is beyond embarrassing now. Its like he has been listening to their shitty LLM and believing it as truth. Even we know better, how does this hack even maintain credibility?
>>16862940>Honda already landed a rocketA 200m apogee grasshopper, does NOT count. Come back when they have a booster lifting a second stage to orbit and landing. China landed their first grasshopper months before that albeit soft landing on water but that’s nitpicking.
>>16862838>starlinerI wouldn't be surprised if the entire contract gets canned if the next flight doesn't go flawlessly
>>16862949It is to be hoped that the new generation will have a healthy disrespect for AI, and "taking a droid seriously" will be regarded as something only idiots do
>>16862902>They dodged a bulletYou are absolutely right!
>>16862950They demonstrated novel use of landing legs since they can retract upon launch, so its something that none of the other companies are doing including china which is just a copy cat.
>>16862897He clearly agrees with the orbital "data layer" concept and doesn't want to get left behind. He will be, though. It's going to be Google and xAI via Spacex/Starlink competing to build the AI orbital godbrain. "Competition" might be kind of a strong word, however, because while Google plans to launch two prototype sats in 2027, Musk is sending up 20+ every few days. I'd be willing to bet that they've been experimenting with the architecture using Starlinks that have excess compute onboard for at least a year. Pic related sort of came across as "good luck catching up because we're already doing it and I own the only rocket that makes the project feasible."
>>16862975>pic related
>>16862975>I own the only rocket that makes the project feasiblenot so fast
>>16862973>Novel landing legs>On a grasshopperWow, amazing.
>>16862975Orbital datacentres are the most insane shit ever with our current capabilities. This whole AI scam has to be coming to a head soon. Like, sending a whole fucking datacentre to space on rockets with ten million miles of radiators and solar panels when heat rejection on urf is pretty much free and you can just tap into an existing grid and build out electrical generator plants next to it??????Absolute insanity
>>16862978Yes they can launch without a launchpad, no other company has demonstrated this. You must be a seething chink if you think this is something worth hating.
>>16862979it's such a retarded idea with the massive amounts of data ai uses, the throughput of satellite communication is unfeasible, they clearly want to justify usecases
>>16862981>launch without a launchpadOk now do it with an actual orbital rocket not a cute toy that goes up a few hundred metres. Have fun launching a f9 tier rocket like that, the exhaust will explode the bottom of the rocket if it’s only a few metres off the ground and not suspended way up on a tower, see; every rocket ever.
>>16862985You can try this with a water suppression system under your launchpad. This is the era of novelty, musk tried catching falling rockets and succeeded, just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean its not possible, its certainly better than what the chinese are doing with copying everything.
>>16862977Come back when New Armstrong is flying in 15 years, Jeff
>>16862985best launchpad is no launchpad
>>16862987>water suppression system under your launchpadNow just add a tower to hold it above the giant water jets and you have reinvented what they did 60 years ago!
>>16862998It doesn't need to be an upward jet, it could be a horizontal stream. Why are you so against this idea like it will hurt you personally?
>>16863000>make up retarded shit>hurr y u mad u r china shillJust kill yourself dude
>>16863002>just kill yourselflmao, is this the best you could come up with, you must either be a juvenile zoomer or a chink
>>16862936Great advice. The reason why a second chance was possible was because he held his tongue after getting shitcanned.
>>16862632Actually now is exactly the time to bring missile defense to space.
>>16862756who was Dumitru Prunariu?why does Grock rhyme with sucking Cock?
>>16862757>they didn't fly with ESA so it doesn't countlmao
Man, remember when we thought a once-per-week cadence was a wild, breakneck pace for Falcon 9? Such crazy times way back in the old days of, uh, 2022? Only three years ago? Baffles me sometimes to think that it's only 2024 and 2025 where we've had 100+ F9 launches. I kind of want to see the true limitations of the F9 program, if Spacex were to go all-in on building more pads for it and streamlining the manufacturing and launch logistics even more. Imagine it launching 3-4 times a day, every day, sailing past the total launch record of the R-7 family before 2030. In a world where the government leaned on orbital assembly for stuff like Artemis or potential Mars missions or even just high-energy probes in need of kick stages, it might have happened. Still, I'll be glad to watch Starship supplant it.
Grim
>>16862511Space telecopes aren't a big issue because they can be placed in higher orbits, but I wonder if space launches can be affected.I admit I don't know how they can avoid collisions if the sky becomes full of megaconstellations.
>>16863017I’m so tired of this jeet king faggot ruining fucking everything can we just glass the entire continent already
>>1686301710 million subscribers in India each paying $30/m is $300M per month in revenue, or $3.6B per year in revenue.
>>16863035$30 is the average annual salary there
>>16862982It's midwit bait. Actually just about anything to do with current AI is midwit bait. But AI "in spaaaaaace!" is very much midwit bait.
>>16863053There are 1.5B+ people there. There are hundreds of thousands of smaller villages, and thousands of cities.10M is <1% of the population. Starlink just needs to target top 30% of the population.
>>16863053I don't think this is true. Google says it's it's about 4000$. Even if this exaggerated by a factor of 3, it's still very much feasible to achieve what anon in >>16863035 is talking about.
>>16863086why is Koko exactly at the intersection?was she educated by an Indian-American (dot not feather)?
>>16862863AEROSPACEGRADE
>>16863086I can't even begin to imagine what life must be like for someone with 60 or less IQ.
>>16863093it is full of magic and incomprehensible happenings, affecting life in both good and bad waysthe people develop a resilient, optimistic, happy-go-lucky mindset, flipping it into dark fatalism when times turn bad
>>16863086There is no way that a whatever bullshit metric they used to get 90 IQ is comparable to a human that scores 90 in adult tests. That would mean that a quarter of the population in a white country is more retarded than a gorilla.You can go back to /pol/ with that image where they eat shit like this up without question.
>>16863096>a quarter of the population in a white country is more retarded than a gorillathis is the horrifying reality we inhabit
>>16863092>$1200 screwdriver
>>16863086>>16863091>>16863099Hello /an/ hereEverything about Koko was extremely fake and gay. Stay safe!
>>16863106I love you too, anonthe implications of Koko being able to do everything an educated nigger could do and more were not lost on western ultraleftist academicsthe whole experiment was deboonked accordlingly, but it's no less truegorillas don't usually get jobs because they're smart enough to do without, basically
China launches more than every other nation other than America combined, so why isn't there an easy button for me to view chinese launches? IRSO and fucking ULA get a shortcut, but China doesn't? Also, the search function on nextspaceflight sucks now.
>>16863112oops, forget the picture
>>16863112>Get your space-track account(they are not picky with the people I have one and I am a failing uni student)>Go to SATCAT and filter by country>Data is tabulated so is piss easy to import>Alternatively there is a whole python package for spacetrack
>>16862936I hate those weird fags at NSF so much it's unreal
>>16863014lmao, I didn't know /sfg/ had seething Romaniansthis is great
>>16863017we'll need the equivalent of a captcha, but for indiansinstead of solving a problem to show that you're human, the pop up will instead show links to free gift cards or the promise of bobs and venganza
>>16862428Hmm... :) what could this be?
>>16863093You're posting here dude
dead generaldead industry
>>16862869Droids taking pictures doesn't establish ownership. Niggas with flags and footprints does that.
The real purpose of orbital data centers is to communicate with the dusty plasma intelligences in the Kordylewski clouds
Oh shit what's with the massive amount of Chinese launches in Dec? It's almost daily launches for the next 3 weeks, far out exceeding the rate of launches of the last few months. It's largely the older hypergolic rockets too. Did they stockpile them all up, just to launch them before the end of the year?
>>16863246imagine Santa dropping a hypergolic stage on your house for Christmas
holy fuggthose detailshttps://x.com/AndrewBGreene/status/1996488993266151649?s=20
>>16863252naughty children get a stocking full of hydrazine.
>>16863254imagine what the military can see
>>16862902ewww thank god fuck OpenAI, fuck AI companies thinking they're more important or vital for the future than the space industry
>>16862507>Look at China, they scrapped most of their existing expandable rocket R&D and expansion plans 5 years ago and completely switched to reusable rockets development.Wrong. CASC is investing heavily into YF-100-derived rockets (as a hedge). The aim is approximately 80 launches per year of LM6A, 8, 8A and 12. Several start-ups are developing expendables as well. The expendable LM9 was cancelled in favor of a reusable LM9 *plus* the expendable LM10.India launches ~5 times per year. For India, reusability makes little sense in the near term.
>>16863254My father once said that if they wanted to, they could see your cigarette butts on the ground. He wasn’t allowed to say much about his work, and I could never tell if he was being serious or just exaggerating. This was back in like 2007
>>16863254>detailsThose ships are about 180 meters long
>>16862938RD-191M is a kerolox engine. Using it would require a complete redesign of the launch vehicle.
>>16863271commercial satellites are restricted on how good their imagery can be
>>16862611Not anymore. But all the projects are multiple decades old and have been optimized for LEO.
>>16863246Doesn't look to me like it's largely hypergolics. Looking at the NSF thread, I see 4 planned launches of 6A/8/8A/12; which can be explained by a technical issue with Guowang/Qianfan payloads having been resolved. There are a bunch of solids; a ramp-up of solids is expected. The first launches of LM-12A, LJ-2 and TL-3 are expected.
>>16863276>restrictedBy what? By law? Or by the business case for better resolution being to poor to justify the expense?
>>16863279nashunul securtitty
reminder that we already could have had a multi planet humanity.
>>16863280@grok is this true?
>>16863285Usecase for south east asia dragon?
>>16863287yes https://space.commerce.gov/regulations/commercial-remote-sensing-regulatory-affairs/compliance-and-monitoring/
>>16863285just another day at the office
>>1686328930 minute pad thai and ladyboy delivery
>>16863254China is very impressive, lots of features and details built into their ships
>>16863285Would an engine nozzle that large even work?
>>16863298No, it would rip itself apart.
>>16863298no
>>16863299>>16863301So a practical version of Sea Dragon would use engine clusters like Starship, right?
>>16863302they lied to you. It would work
>>16863302Starship IS the practical version of the Sea Dragon concept
>>16863302No, by splitting up the huge as fuck single engine bell in to a cluster of them you lose too much theoretical performance that the seadragon has.
>Blue Origin is planning more orbital missions, including an early 2026 cargo flight to the moon, following its recent New Glenn rocket launches and booster catch. A bigger, more powerful version of New Glenn is in the works, the company said last month.>The 25-year-old company has long conducted research on hardware and developed missions in a methodical and, at times, plodding manner. Chief Executive Dave Limp and other senior leaders are pushing to capitalize on the company’s recent wins as it pushes to operate faster and fly more.>“Blue Origin did have this reputation of moving slower, being steady and making sure we can get things right,” said John Couluris, a senior vice president leading the company’s lunar campaign, at an industry event in May. “We’re now transitioning into a production organization.”meanwhile SpaceX can't get Starship up (to orbit)
>>16863314>Limp has also shaken up the company’s management ranks and assigned more tasks to Ian Richardson, a former SpaceX executive now serving as senior vice president for operations. still needed SpaceX help though
>>16863315das rite, new glenn is actually a spacex rockettake that benzorats
I think it's funny that people are being tribalistic about rocket companies. It doesn't even affect you
>>16863285That thing at the top is the Apollo CSM. Lmao, WTF were they on when they designed this
>>16863259They would play RTS
>>16863324This, with the console war as example i can at least get that people who grew up with one would stay loyal to that console brand. But nobody here is ever going to ride up to space on a rocket, the best we can do is go out and watch a launch.
>>16863309So the whole theoretical concept was build on illusionary giant nozzle?
>>16863332Yes, and the idea that you could weld the entire thing in a shipyard dock and drag it out to sea with thugs and let it take off from the ocean with it's engine bell ass down in the seawater.
>>16863324did this nigga really just use the "but how does this affect you PERSONALLY??" card?
>>16863273Which they have been planning for a very long time now
>>16863324animals with tribalism wired into their minds by evolution are... tribalistic what a surprise
It is time for another Starlink launch and you WILL enjoy it
>>16863275this guy sure looks objective and unbiased, free from any conflict of interest
>>16863275When will SpaceX sponsor something
>>16863270but I don't smoke
>>16863296imagine being the head greeble specialist at a shipyard
Does management not care about expensive tools getting stolen at SpaceX and the space industry in general?https://x.com/MorganWKhan/status/1996390522525749517?s=20
>>16863377This happens at every jobsite lol
>>16863377cant tell if that guys just annoying/autistic and making mountains out of molehills or if its a sign of SpaceX's decline due to its insane growth and size
>>16863255>>16863252The Mandarin for Santa is literally Christmas old person
>>16863293stop das gay
>>16863324>how does the ultimate fate of humanity affect you in any wayI hope you get eaten by a Somalian
>>16863336yeah cause it doesn't directly affect you. At least with consumer products you can actually use them
>>16863344you are a slave to animal instincts
>>16863393shouldn't you want to maximize spaceflight instead of choosing what billionaire to suck off you dumb fuck?
>>16863417>actually they're all equally goodI hope you get eaten by a Somalian
>>16863419I didn't say that. That's why spaceflight has nothing to do with you. They would never put a dumb fuck like you in a rocket. They wouldn't even ask you to draw a picture of one.
>>16863386Recent RUDs during ground testing should be small hints.
https://youtu.be/yn3juwAeRmcWhy did no one tell me Tory was doing interviews?Also Clear when?
>>16863442hope not, but yeah this is my worst worry
>>16863324>>16863331back to plebbit, fags
>with the promise of cheaper, heavy lift rockets on the horizon>shows picture of the SLSWhat did Real Engineering mean by this?
https://x.com/Nord_Space/status/1996561339662168213>NordSpace is proud to announce another major orbital launch program milestone. Alongside our ongoing orbital hardware development, we have successfully completed the high-fidelity trajectory and flight dynamics model for our Tundra orbital rocket after 2 years of intense design effort, thousands of simulations, and hundreds of physical tests. This high-fidelity model is far more than a simulation milestone or simply selecting the vehicle's capabilities. It is the cornerstone of the entire vehicle design loop, the foundation required for regulatory commercial flight approval, and the only way to confidently predict and guarantee the performance required to achieve orbit. It integrates detailed aerodynamics, structural loads, propulsion constraints, flight mechanics, guidance, navigation, and control, and much more into a single unified framework that will guide every major design decision moving forward.>Crossing this milestone gives us the ability to continue to rapidly advance the engineering efforts behind our orbital launch architecture from engines and tanks, to GNC and GSE. Uniquely, we're focused on a lot more than just a light-lift vehicle. Our entire architecture is based upon selecting key technologies and design pathways that result in the most efficient progression from Tundra (500 kg to LEO, 350 kg to SSO) to Titan, our reusable medium lift vehicle (5,000 kg to LEO, 3,500 kg to SSO). Our architecture even allows for the option to extend Tundra without major modifications to a Tundra+ variant, allowing for 1,100 kg to LEO and 850 kg to SSO.
If space based servers will mostly just stay in sun synchronous orbit. Will there be some mostly unused launch site/countries that have a better chance at being used?
>>16863482nothing, he's retarded
>>16863477>nooooo let me yell on the internet about my favorite billionairelol fag
>>16863285We can build an effective "space elevator" with existing materials, less than the cost of Twitterhttps://www.project-atlantis.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The%20Tethered%20Ring%20-%20a%20Brief%20Explanation.pdfhttps://youtu.be/b3O1gtr_oAk?si=Ww1NZMPZV9WsatuVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B2iqiKehyM
>>16863513Also we can travel to the stars on better, more powerful drives than Orion, with non of the unobtanium like in Nuclear Light-bulbs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvZjhWE-3zM
>>16863513>space elevatorDoes anybody here have that quote from a guy advising a journo not to ask Elon about space elevators cause that'll make him angry? lol, can't find it in my esefgee folder.
>>16862897Never ever.
lmao at the assblasted thirdie shithole earthers actually bothering to report my posts about space belonging exclusively to America, and how they will create a big beautiful wall around the entire planet made of orbital guided munitions to keep plebian freedom devoid squatters from EVER polluting the starsthat is very sadthreadly reminder that you will never into space and that is a GOOD thing tooweaponize the moon, and make every other so called "nation" on earth pay tribute to subsidize the cost of this lunar military base they will build the space wall, and the rest of the world will pay for it
https://x.com/SubaruTelescope/status/1996702302808232110>At local time 2025 December 2nd 22:38, a large fireball that appeared above Maunakea on the Big Island of Hawaii was captured by the CFHT-Asahi Starry Sky Live Camera. The cylindrical dome visible around the center of the screen is the Subaru Telescope. The video can also be viewed on the Subaru Telescope subchannel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-tcnXJWn30
>>16862896We can maybe talk about incorporating them into the Galactic Federation of planets, even observer status in the Supreme Council, but honestly they're probably getting the Puerto Rico treatment as they are ripe for colonization.
yeah, it's schizo frenzy general
xenoshitholer detectedor even worse, an **rth*r
>>16863547This board needs to start showing the national flags of its posters. I bet lots of them will be from pic related lmao.
Midwits have some strange preoccupation with heat rejection in space. They have this idea that it's completely impossible.
>>16863563And that le scary radiation will stop us from ever going anywhere besides LEO
https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1996687848141902157?t=QiQKsKA4DCF1Fn6-x7htBg&s=19Be honest sfg. Would you f–ck Miranda? ;)
>>16863567No
>>16863563space does not diffuse heat like an atmosphere doesthat's why you need EMR conversion units to cool critical modules as part of a comprehensive thermal control systemMars has negligible atmosphere.Overheating electronics could be a problem if these remediatory facets were somehow disabled or dust were somehow a factor.
/sfg/ is obtunded.
The bottom line is that an architecture which requires a high number of refueling flights in low-Earth orbit, no one really knows how many, uses a technology that has not yet ever been demonstrated in space, is very unlikely to work—unlikely to the point where I will say it cannot work
SLS is not overpriced.
>>16863595lego technic still exists but not bionicle?
>>16863563The real concern should almost always be cost.
>>16863549
>>16862428NASA IS the pioneer of reusable launch vehicles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwOszPIMsxU
>>16863640NASA has had ideas, sketches and prototypes to go back and forth to Jupiter several times over.>But noooo, what about 'em commies, need mo money for our nam and germany>But noooo, what about our welfare leeches>But noooo, what about the private sectorMusk did not reinvent the wheel, he found himself with the lucky people and lucky situation to do what NASA already showed could be done in the 80s and 90s except that instead of being surrounded by politicians he became surrounded by capitalists and if there is something he has shown is that he knows how to sell a pitch.At this point I love what SpaceX, Blue Origin, China, Europe or dear God for saying this ISRO are doing because every step they take is an argument for how utterly unsalvageable retards were US politicians when they had the keys to the universe in the 70s and said "whatabout".
>EU fines Elon 120 million euros over X's deceptive business model?????????
>>16863657It's about X not censoring things that the EU wants censored.
>>16863657They should shut down that website for being an absolute garbage, amazing that Elon managed to make it somehow even worse than Twitter was.
>>16863667
>>16863669
>>16863374
>>16863513without massive upmass capacity you can't have a space elevatorwith massive upmass capacity you don't need a space elevator
https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1996951812184604715
>instead of making V3 work, Musk is busy getting clowned on by a gay mexican chud again and claiming that jews are whiteI look forward to a year of V3 flopping hard
>>16863667Why not just kill yourself first?
China launched a KZ-1A overnight, putting up two VDES satellites, probably to replace those lost in the March failure.
>>16863745the new iss?
>>16863746That's why we test, the data is the payload.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1996965639601479835>ZQ-3 onboard cam’s view from stage separation to the last moment until stage RUD.
>>16863745>russian and indian techit'll be a sight to be sure.
>>16863745will they have a distillery and a designated shitting module?
>>16863777https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1996972908824932707>And the liftoff part:
soyuz is going to be in operation for 100+ years
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1996939521909575756>Liftoff at 09:00UTC on December 05, Kuaizhou-1A launched JiaoTong VDES A/B from Jiuquan.
>>16863790why are the gridfins on the bottom?
>>16863786if it works, it works
>>16863777Damn, they had it under control until it shat itself, that's not bad for a first attempt.
>>16863792crazy what reusable rockets have done to people's perception. that used to be the only place to put them.stability when going up
>>16863792>>16863794It lands upside down, there's landing rockets at the top. Doing it this saves the need for using fuel to turn around at stage sep.
>>16863792Good stability, I'd assume. They're low weight and have good performance characteristics compared to normal fins in the conditions that a lot of ballistic missiles operate in, which was why the Soviets stuck them on so many of their designs.
>>16863799STFU retard
>>16863784Does the Russian part of the ISS have a distillery?
>>16863809I'd imagine their international partners ruined the fun.
>>16863795It's seems that every time something goes wrong with a rocket launch or landing there's always an addendum pointing out how just superhuman the rockstars in the Guidance and Control team always are.
>>16863777Kino alert
>>16863812they're always at fault, so they get praise as a consolation prizeI blame affirmative action
>>16863588that's a cool word, anon.Thanks for sharing with us :D
>>16863793It works... until you forget to set the parking brake.Reminder that glorious puccia space program is all based on USSR era, long ago gone history. They can never rebuild it, they can't even keep it from falling apart. Even when they do finally beat on something long enough to launch it, it still goes wrong.
>>16863812>ANUSPACE
>>16863786soiuz isn't spaceflightleo isn't spaceflight
>>16863786
>>16862982>>16862979Heat rejection is free but power ain't. With great pumps it's possible they could lower the radiator size by a decent amount. Then there's starship of course making it cheap enough to actually try it. In five to ten years there will start to be servers in space
>>16863793That kind of mentality destroyed R*ssia.
>>16863845>power ain't free>in spaceI'm sorry anon, your retardation is terminal
>>16863848The first sentence was obviously a response to saying heat rejection is free on earth, but power is not. Where as in a sun synchronous orbit power is only limited by the size of the solar panel.I hope this helps
>>16863834nothing really flies in space anyway.
>>16863857space doesn't exist anywaythere's nothing there.
>>16863852thanks, it does. I didn't read the post you replied to. My retardation is terminal.
>>16863786the only rocket where the pads are more mechanically complex than the rocket itself
https://x.com/Lori_Garver/status/1996718650246812108Threat from ULA snipers
>>16863875I hate women so much it’s unreal
>>16863876gay go away
>>16863876boomers are kinda unreal though
>>16863745Huh? what about the plans for russia and china building a space station together?
>>16863881russia is building a moonar base too. absolutely mogging the usa
>>16863876All rockets are female, there for you hate rockets.
>>16863858theres lots of....space
>>16863903We need to be extract energy from the quantum foam
>>16863883>upskirt ignition
>>16863883Always wanted to fuck baseduza chan
>>16863905it's possible to set up systems so they follow closed curves in quantum parameter space, a quantum engine is possible, and quantum batteries as well of course of coursenot sure about a quantum generator though... where would you get the negentropy from? any of these special states takes energy to prepare and they don't seem to exist in nature at all
>>16863784no, because it's all fantasyIndia will be capable of building a space station with domestic technology in approximately 100 yearsThe Russian space industry is, on the other hand, actually getting further away from being able to build a space station
>>16863903Imagine how many cheap high rent condos we could build there... Someone needs to get ahead of the curve A.S.A.P.
https://x.com/WSJ/status/1997015116189983157>SpaceX is kicking off a secondary share sale that would value it at $800 billion, surpassing OpenAI as the most valuable U.S. private company
>>16863917He just wanted a few spare Dnepr rockets from the kremlin…
>>16863916>get ahead of the curveliterally. once you do that you're in orbit.
>>16863920HAHAHAHA
>>16863920Boooooo
>>16863920
>>16863919and uncle H just wanted to paintjust how it goes sometimes in this bitch of a life
>>16863927Time unfolds according to the Will of God
>>16863930Subhan Allah!
>>16863919
>>16863883This makes me want to hire a prostitute to dress up as a rocket while I put crew in her to launch.
>>16863938cute rocket
I didn't expect them to show the aftermatch. I honestly thought they'd try and keep it hush and maybe execute a few engineers to scare the rest.https://x.com/LandSpace_Tech/status/1996973617037648205
SpaceX/Starbase might soon get it's own member of congress.
>>16863951China is incredible nation
>>16863938those kind of stockings really do it for me. know what im saying.
>>16863951you know they filmed it impacting on the surface
https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1997048297698062818>Rumors say, the new plan for ROS is to undock Nauka and Prichal after the ISS is decommissioned and add the new NEM (Science Power Module) module to it.
>>16863917https://x.com/JackKuhr/status/1997028639503012153
>>16863982lol russia is running on fumes
>>16863983>Katie Roof>Deputy Bureau Chief for the venture capital section @theinformation. Ex Bloomberg, WSJ, TechCrunch. Scooping tech business news since 2013People used to have standards in who they invested their belief in. These days the average goyslop-addicted kikeslave will swallow the most inconceivable doomer statements because panic is the only way for them to feel even the slightest tickle of dopamine. Utterly shameless.
whatever happened with the QI schizo? success / failure / "try again"?
>>16863994all and none of those at the same time
>>16863994idk I stopped following it, its clear there was no progress happening lemme check now https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/graph-orbit-data.php?CATNR=63235yeah.
>its clear
>>16863983>>16863917spacex ipo before anything gets sent to mars would be a death knell for space colonization
>>16863917https://archive.is/0rOiK
>>16863983
>spacex launches IPO next year>first thing activist investors do is demand that spacex end all mars ambitions>tell spacex they need to cut the fat and focus on cost plus defense contracts
>>16864034https://archive.ph/0rOiK
>>16864039>>16864028oh woops didn't see
It would be an IPO of starlink
https://x.com/aarontburnett/status/1997039887108002023
>>16864034>AI gives a summary based on other sites summaries
>>16864043Why can't spacex offer a wholesale launch price for customers who want to purchase hundreds of launches at a time?
>>16864043tl:dr he thinks it might be politically beneficial and protect from things like nationalization
>>16864028>>16864034Companies use IPOs to raise funds so that they can expand their business. SpaceX does not need outside sources of investment at this point. I'm sure it's technically true that they're thinking about an IPO but there's oceans of difference between being aware of the option and seriously considering it. This bit at the end is particularly illuminating:>If you're a subscriber to The Information, you can access the full article for deeper quotes and analysisSpaceX is going to have a small limited sale as they regularly do to allow employees an opportunity to see off their stock if they wish to. SpaceX is increasing in value, so the recalculation of the company's worth is certain to make headlines. Then a clickbate propagandist takes a technically true quote and through the magic of journalism spins it into a big trending topic that they can coincidently use to shill their subscription site to future VC scam victims. People need to start regarding all journalists the same way they regard drug dealers, and start cheering when they die in airstrikes.
>>16863697Nice job not watching the video jeet. You tie the system to the sea floor and turn it on. You don't launch anything to space.Go wipe your ass.
>>16864046because that would take over a year with the current cadence and would be a massive counterparty risk for one
>>16864046>>16864051also, they don't need towhy should they sell the launches for cheaper if they have demand anyway?
>>16864048>and protect from things like nationalizationinteresting..
>>16864048>protect from things like nationalizationhe knows the left is going to come for him and his companies as soon as they get back into power. its going to be a nuremburg kangaroo court.
>>16864048well shit now I'm no longer against the idea desu
>>16864050>it's your responsibility to watch my gay video"no"also, kill yourself, retard
>>16864049one thing that came to mind as a reason why Musk might think about doing a IPO of SpaceX is that he needs a lot of capital for xAI and its data centers, like in the order of hundreds of billionshe has been raising tens of billions on the private market for xAI, but hundreds of billions might start to be difficult, and as xAI is nowhere near profitable and won't for many years with the massive capex spend they need to do, an IPO wouldn't really workyet this needs to happen within the next few years, so xAI needs hundreds of billions of cash in the coming yearsTesla is still a couple of years away from really starting to print cash flows that could be directed towards xAI and so is SpaceXhowever, Musk owns about 42% of SpaceX and has supervoting shares so he has 79%, apparently basically all of his shares are supervotingso he could sell almost 25% of his stake and still retain over 50% control, but lets say 20% of his stakethat would be 8.4% of SpaceX and if SpaceX IPOd at 1T, that would be 84 billion in cashthat might or might not be enough with other investors to get over the hump of the capex spend xAI needs to do until Tesla and SpaceX start really pringing cash
>>16864058>and won't for many yearsNone of these AI investments will make any money
>>16864059Nah. Giga Neumann level personal assistant by the end of this year. Trust the plan.
>Did they bring any real payload into orbit?the starship goalpost has now officially moved. we are at "real payload" instead of "payload" (starlink simulators).
>>16864064there's an entire constellation of 9,000 satellites that isn't "real" for EDS sufferers
>>16862428How likely is it that at least one unintelligent species in the universe is able to do spaceflight? Considering how many galaxies and star systems exist.
>>1686407850/50
>>16864078maybe if they lived on a very low gravity world
>>16864078I hope void krakens are a thing somewhere
Oh huh so it really was Elon's goal to just monetize SX and bring it public and just plug in another money printer (i.e. Starlink subscription money) to his portfolio. Mars was just the lie sold along the way... This is sad
>he thought space colonization was realreminder you're trapped here forever
>>16864078mushrooms spores can float up and out of the atmosphere. our planet leaves behind a low density cloud of spores that can remain viable in deep freeze for a very long time. if some happen to drop down to a habitable world in a couple million years, they can regrow and establish in a new world. it might just be how they got here
>>16864122Surely the spores would still be in heliocentric space and never leave the solar system? what you think they just "keep going up" once they've left the atmosphere?
>>16864122>>16864124also how could fungi come from space when we know they are related to animals and plants? they have the same DNA? nice sentiment but completely out of touch with reality.
>>16864127nobody said they came from space retard
https://x.com/tesla/status/1997094007948627975
>>16864135see >>16864122 >it might just be how they got hereboth of (You) (the same person) are retarded
>>16864124>get propelled by solar flare, hitch solar wind>hit by interstellar object and hitch a ride out>get close to some kind of collision or impact and get propelled o escape velocity>naturally disperse through the solar system with the "edge" of the spore cloud eventually drifting out>>16864127DNA might be a pretty universal outcome for biochemical selfreplicators. or panspermia is true and all DNA came here from space anyways
Why does it feel like I'm looking at a super weapon go online after being dormant for years?
>>16864136HLS landing simulator port when?
>>16864127Everything on Earth exchanges DNA. Everyone is a Chimera.
>>16864054>as soon as they get back into powerDream on. The pendulum is still swinging away from the left, with the census changing due to people moving away from blue states, and illegals being removed from the census count. The Texas redistricting will help too, hopefully enough to fight the midterms effect next year.
>>16864177not relevant. DNA exchange is like loan words between languages. we are talking about ancient cognates that show relationship. specific genes etc. the fact all life on earth descended form a common ancestor is basically an axiom at this point
/sfg/ - /Spores and Fungi General/
we're an RNA world
>>16864199Shiitake next week, just in time for SN8 anniversary
we are star stuff
>>16864204did you get that from space?
Athena leakedhttps://x.com/mcrs987/status/1997153483166736883
>>16864207it's a carbonaceous chondrite
>>16864208Assume this is that gay senator boomer's hail maryz at least we know who leaked it now
>>16864208>JPL>Contract structure: Very expensive. Must increase the output and 'time-to-science' KPI>Case study: How much money allocated to JPL goes straight to Lockheed/prime? What is 'built' at JPL?You love to see it
Why can't I download the PDF? Why can't I upload the PDF? Tf
>SLS/Gateway>Fly Artemis II and III to determine the reasons to be on the Moon. >Terminate as appropriate after sunk costs are expended and pivot to routine and affordable commercial transportation.>Pivot Gateway hardware to commercial LEO or nuclear programs.
>>16864208as a little worker bee contractor at NASA, I am quite happy with these proposals. >>16864217because actual deranged, insane psychopaths are obsessed with this site and hacked it via a pdf exploit like a year ago. rip
>Reforming NASA: A path to Mars and beyond>By Jared Isaacman and Newt GingrichWtf is this 1990s political jumpscare
>>16864056>does not understand how something works>"that won't work you didn't smear it in cow shit"
>>16864225>Mars program called Olympus instead of Aresi guess
>>16864232https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/5437745-nasa-future-space-exploration/Cant remember if I read this before lol
>>16864240One of leadership’s current solutions to budget pressures is to reduce astronaut crew sizes and mission frequency. Meanwhile, bureaucratic positions proliferate. This is unacceptable. Astronauts — not bureaucrats — are the human identity of the agency. There are too many managers, deputies, assistants and review boards — and not enough doers. Bureaucracy is stifling innovation.The culture must return to being mission focused. We need to empower the best and brightest to make decisions and take calculated risks. Some efforts — such as exploring worlds beyond our own — involve risks worth taking.holy fucking BASED
>Financial Review and Cost Rationalization (Bottoms-up Cost Analysis by Center)>Conduct a full bottoms-up build of every expense, grant, cost sharing, partnership or other financial expenditure at each NASA center. Each expense should include: >An assigned owner >A justification statement on how the expense directly supports agency priorities, specifically scientific, economic or national security justification in line with the agency mission. >Perform center-by-center analysis of trends in expense growth relative to expected output or achievement. If costs are outpacing expected productivity, assemble a list of likely causes and recommended solutions. >Wherever possible, renegotiate or require a re-bid on a fixed firm price basis all contracts regardless of dollar amounts. >Challenge all assumptions regarding the necessity of expenses or resource allocations. particularly in comparison to other competing or higher-priority initiatives. >Refer any potential fraud. waste or abuse to the Office of the Inspector GeneralI voted for this
ULA is never mentioned lmao
>Reactivation of the Payload Specialist Program
/sfg/ is ebullient :)
>>16864248>fix bureaucratic waste by adding more bureaucracy and making all bureaucrats "justify your jobs"
>>16864252>Improve ISS utilization. increase crew and research throughput >Establish new industry/academic incentives (e.g. 7-seat Dragon, front door, internship tracks) >Prepare for a future regulatory roadmap for vehicle/crew/operator certification requirements We're going to have more seats for dedicated payload specialists
>>168642557 seat Dragon would be so fucking cool to see
>>16864256It originally got knocked down to four seats at the request of NASA, supposedly because of some ergonomic or safety justifications. Kinda makes you wonder if it wasn't to keep Starliner from looking bad in comparison, given that the most Boeing ever talked about was squeezing in a fifth seat.
>>16864257fucking NASA safety cucks- afuera!lets bring back the MMU too
Why is this Isaacman the NASA administrator, I thought he is a Democrat. Has he denounced his involvements and apologized to President Donald Trump?
>>16863938would love to throatfuck this rocket if you get my drift
>>16864232So fucking based. it's like my reddit fanfiction is becoming reality
>>16864262>very close friend of Elonso that was a lie, but whatever
>>16864254the beauty is the worst bureaucrats dont respond to emails, and you can fire them for non-communication. that was the whole point of "what did you do this week" from DOGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asQrUpbLHWALong March 8A going up. Stream goes live in an hour, if anyone's going to still be awake for that.
>>16864264>many were told to just ignore those emailslol
>>16864265no I'm going to bed
ASTROFORGE, asteroid mining funding confirmed.
>>16864266they had to give govt workers another chance to take the retirement package because the dems and media were scaring too many away from taking it the first round.this was why DOGE first order of business was digitizing and accelerating the retirement process away from paperwork in the mine.
coolhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter_comet
>>16864272dumbest shit ive ever read
ISS>increase personnel on station and flight rateHELL YEA
>>16863845it's not about power but speed, datacenters run at hundreds of gigabytes per second, satellite communication can't match fiber optic throughput, its cheaper to just build a datacenter, by the time the costs for space travel come down, fibre optic will be implementing terabytes per second
>>16864217That feature was removed after someone used it to rekt the site for a few days. This was six months ago or so.
>potential for high- power offensive capability.Maybe space based solar power is not about data centers...
>>16864232Newt will get his base, not just on the moon, but on mars too
>Cost Plus Contracts are prohibited without a waiver from the AdministratorBASED BASED BASED
>>16864237Ares sounds too much like oldspace.Also it's a bit overused in sci-fi
>>16864291>Apollo>Artemis>Aresits kino
>>16864293>Autism
>He debunks Elon Musk's Mars planBASED
>>16864298Elon betrayed yet againIsaacman was a snake all along
>>16864162because iit is a superweapon? all those satellites will have powerful "communications" lasers aboard on top of their microwave emittersol' Musky is securing the high frontier lol
>>16864297>Athena
Does this confirm that Jared is 100% the new administrator? Why else would he look at it?
>>16864298NEP Mars cyclers for the win!
>>16864298>Nuclear ElectricSorry but opinion discarded. The future is in chemical propulsion
>>16864049There is another way of reading this. While SpaceX doesn't need it, they may want it. Why? Easy capital in the bubble speculative economy to cushion themselves + easy capital to expand their services rapidly.
>>16864308Yeah it's a certainty at this point. I don't believe Trump is interested in pulling the nom again, and everyone in congress seems like like Isaacman.
>>16864232>>16864246I'm amazed at how pro-manned-space Newt Gingrich is of all people
>>16864314And its not just SpaceX wanting bubble money, but rather investors themselves also know there's plenty of speculative bubble, they'd rather spend it on companies that are building out infrastructure for the next decade properly.
>>16864316that's Newt 'Moonbase' Gingrich alright
>>16864316He floated the idea of creating contracts that only specify the goals (reaching man and delivering cargo in mass) as form of competition instead of SLS like committee designed rockets or even mile stone based programs. He wants the goal oriented contracts.
>>16864225>gateway retrofit to LEO nuclear propulsion labToo kino to be true, sadly
>>16864298>Key Contacts & Commercial Interests>Electric Propulsion - Impulse Space: Tom MuellerHe's in
>>16864298Elon Musk hates this because he doesn't want that people on Mars can come back because if they could, they would. He wants them to be stuck on Mars so they will developing a liking for Mars out of coping/Stockholm syndrome.
>>16864313the point is we dont want NASA investing in chemical propulsion when industry has already pulled away from them in that tech branch. but I agress, NASA should be working on zubrins NSWR
Based Bim skewering Isaacman's hubris
>>16864325Elon Musk wants to fuck my wife, it's insane
>>16864328>you cant justyou can. it's that easy in spaceflight
Is Nuclear the best option for "the oldspace question"?I bet oldspace would love special "certifications" to be the only ones allowed to handle nuclear in spacethe timeline for nuclear is always going to be slow Seems like a perfect match.
>>16864333why dont we just give them a couple billion a year to fuck off?
i am unconvinced and unimpressed by isaacman's plan
>>16864344I appreciate that he cares enough to write a 62-page manifesto. I've never in my life heard of a NASA admin nominee ever posting a plan, let alone one they wrote themselves.
>>16864344Ok smart guy let's see you take a crack at it
>>16864333they will be dead by the time it comes online
nasa should do the crazy and put a telescope around the moon
>>16864122Reminds me of how Terminids travel between planets in Helldivers 2. Their spores made a biological nebula.
>>16864228A shame it didn't kill it outright.
>>16864122fart cloud
I hate popscifags so fucking much
Translated Finnish news about Zhuque-3. >The maiden flight of the Chinese company LandSpace's Zhuque-3 rocket has failed.>The rocket took off successfully, but its engine caught fire mid-flight and the rocket was destroyed.They link to an accurate tweet but write this. lol
>>16864208total oldspace death
>Begin hiring temporary and full-time experts, 'strike teams', to support the plan.Jareds death squads lmao
>>16864377Yay fuck Mars
Succesful CZ-12A static fire, launch and recovery is planned within the next two weeks>>16864382bascally the same kind of media coverage SpaceX has had whenever it had a landing failure for the past decade. Curiously Blue Origin didn't really have that with its 1st New Glenn which was widely reported as a success, but ig it can be explained by the contrasting actual failure of FLT 7 on the same day.
>>16864422implessive
>>16864333>Is Nuclear the best option for "the oldspace question"?Yes, but probably not in the way you're thinking
>>16864298I doubt even Musk thinks ISRU return flights are feasible until he is at death's door.
esa will refuse to work with isaacman and will hamstring him as much as possible
esa deserves the nuclear option along with the whole continentt. europoor
>>16864049An IPO is not only a means to raise money. It is also a means for current shareholders to cash out in a big way.The best time to conduct an IPO is not necessarily when the company needs to raise money, but rather when the hype cycle is at its peak. It may be that now is the optimal time for a SpaceX IPO, while there are still investors who believe that SpaceX is a one-of-a-kind company.
>>16864422It probably also helped that we didn't really have any footage of NG1 crashing or blowing up, it was simply out of sight, out of mind.
>>16864477esa is too irrelevant to cause any kind of problems for nasa, it's not like there's any more iss modules to make, we just give their yuronauts a ride up every now and then
>>16864382You don't hate journalists enough
>>16864256Assuming stable launch cost this would cut the per seat price to LEO by 40%. I hope Issacman focuses on this and other proposals to enhance Dragon's capability like reviving propulsion landing on land as those will have the biggest impact on human presence in LEO for the next decade, because let's be honest with ourselves Starship isn't launching with crew before 2035.
>>16864478
>>16864477esa will cut off their nose to spite their face and it’s not really my problem
What if ESA commited fully to developing nuclear propulsion while America focused on reaching the end-game of chemical?
>>16864532>europe>anything nuclear
>>16864532anon, eurotards are even more irrationally afraid of anything with nuclear in the title than Americans. Europe is a dead continent anyway.
>>16864532The only way Europe is ever going to commit to nuclear propulsion is if it's powered by imported Russian LNG.
>>16864532What if the booboobongo tribe from the middle of the uncontacted southern doodooland forests magically invented matter-antimatter drives while NASA kept working on chemical propulsion?
https://x.com/dsshhh112/status/1997242390822932483>At 15:53 on December 6, China successfully launched the Long March-8A, carrying 14 satellites for low-Earth orbit satellite internet constellations.
>>16864477that will probably just make jareds work easier, one retarded bureucracy less to worry about
>>16864534>>16864533Nope. Europe is not Germany. Europe still has a larger fraction of electricity coming from nuclear than the US. It also is building far more in capacity. Currently the US is building zero large reactors, two reactors were being built in South Carolina for the last 12 years but the project has stalled. Even the fucking UK is building more, with two new major plants. Poland alone has more capacity planned than the US does. And lets not mention France.
Reminder that Musk thinks rich fags would rather take a 3-4G spaceflight rather than a supersonic flight where they can doze off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE-ultsWt0
>>16864573the flight is like 30 mins anon, you're not getting any significant sleep anyway.
>>16864573>Earth to Earth
>>16864573many people will take it just to get the experiencefor young professionals 30min could mean you could commute to the other side of the world in some cases
fuck you
>>16864049I think I'm going crazy. This was ALL OVER the news, even from 'reputable' sources, yet I still can't accept it's real. Even anons here are starting to think that an IPO might not be that bad of an idea after all, all because Musk 'said' so.>there's oceans of difference between being aware of the option and seriously considering it.I still have the same opinion, that this is just something take out of context and it now spread to every media outlet like a virus. I simply refuse to accept otherwise, the Mars dream would be unironically over. Guess we'll have to wait for Elon to clarify on the issue on Twitter.
>>16864573Imagine how many trenches and towers they would need to build.
"Blue Origin" like come on how fucking derivative and unoriginal and gay
>>16864589Welcome back. Now, if we only knew what happened to bike anon...
>>16864538kek
>>16864594oldspace disappeared him, he was single handedly killing their anti-spacex campaignprobably working in the government meme mines now
V3 is going to fail because Elon is self-intent on incurring groypers curse upon himself at all costs
"Hey Hey! Nah Yeah."
how are you all doing, /sfg/?
>>16864611debating where to go out on a Saturday eveninglife's okay
>>16864477"Behold! The power of this fully operational European Industrial Trade Organization!"
>>16864615I'm going to taco bell
>>16864619I want an empanada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk0lflGpoUM
Elon Musk@elonmuskThere has been a lot of press claiming @SpaceX is raising money at $800B, which is not accurate.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997399963509150089>There has been a lot of press claiming SpaceX is raising money at $800B, which is not accurate. SpaceX has been cash flow positive for many years and does periodic stock buybacks twice a year to provide liquidity for employees and investors. Valuation increments are a function of progress with Starship and Starlink and securing global direct-to-cell spectrum that greatly increases our addressable market. And one other thing that is arguably most significant by far.>While I have great fondness for NASA, they will constitute less than 5% of our revenue next year. Commercial Starlink is by far our largest contributor to revenue. Some people have claimed that SpaceX gets “subsidized” by NASA. This is absolutely false. The SpaceX team won the NASA contracts because we offered the best product at the lowest price. BOTH best product AND lowest cost. With regard to astronaut transport, SpaceX is currently the only option that passes NASA safety standards.
>>16864644>>16864645>he's not denying spacex plans on going publicITS OVER
Toot toot. Hey -- beep beep.
>>16864646don't scare me anon, please, let me have some hope
>>16864646>>16864657Maybe.....maybe it should.
>>16864658It’s been over, this much has not been hidden
>>16864645>SpaceX has been cash flow positive for many yearssource?
>>16864667Elon Musk https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997399963509150089
>>16864573t. never been on a long flight
>spacex goes public next yearwhat happens then?
transfer tube is soon going to be installed. they are moving FAST.
>>16864681gotta go fast, mars window is next year. cant miss it.
>>16864667the mouth of the horse
>>16864573id rather just fly Concorde
>>1686468125 flights in 2025
>>16864686*allowed up to
>>16864644>>16864645If it is real i think it's just Starlink, i doubt that Elon would want SpaceX to go public for two reasons:1 SpaceX is the vehicle that Elon wants to use to get to Mars, going public would slow down the process2 Elon is not a fan of public trading companiesOnly ay i can see it being real is if Shotwell is behind the move
>>16864644>>16864645Reading through a bunch of different news sites, seems the IPO talk is usual corporate shenanigan to raise the price of shares ahead of a new share sale for private investors.
My brain is so /sfg/ed when I first saw this I thought it was an upper stage
>>16864644>not including the whole post because you don't want other readers to understand the context
>>16864254one time thing during re-org
>>16864708no, just a test vehicle
>>16864716nah im just lazy like t
>>16864708Wernher Brothers
>>16864678that's not gonna happen, shut up
>>16864478the hubris of EU bureaucrats is something to behold
>>16864733its over
>>16864670>Zero refutation of IPO rumorsIt's so fucking over
>>16864678many people in this general will unironically kill themselves if that happens.
The Canadians are doing reusable rockets btw
>>16864767indian company financed by government money
what's the ISP of a spinor engine
>>16864788This is the glue outgassing from the tape
>>16864788>elon mentioned
>>16864363That's not crazy, the images revealed would simply be too spicy for the pepper.
>>16864655this is a good thinghere's hoping commercial stations have a similar problem
>>16864532The only thing Europe needs to do is die by their own hand and stop posting on the internet
>>16864655Couldn't three more Russian craft dock to the Russian node at the end of Nauka? I now a fourth port is too close to one of the Soyuz.
>>16864655They need one of these bad boys up there
>>16864298Haven't both Elon and Shotwell said that SpaceX would love to do nuclear but the red tape makes it not worth even considering?
>>16862878It's a Slaver stage tree; you can only light it off once.
>>16864869No. Piss off, we're full:https://www.nasa.gov/blogs/spacestation/2025/12/01/space-station-first-all-docking-ports-fully-occupied-8-spacecraft-on-orbit/
landspace aura farming on the tl
>>16864767I'll support it, if only because I think it'd be funny if Canada gets a reusable launcher before Europe does.
goodnight /sfg/
>>16864325Mars plan for SpaceX isn't tourist destination. Its full colonization. Its a waste to use all the years worth of resource extraction to return humans back. That just delays the mars colonization process by decades.
First have to escape Europe to US before its possible to escape US to Mars
>>16864569>And lets not mention France.Like how they didn't do any upkeep on their current reactors?
>>16864916heh
aint shit going on today
>>16865090Starlink launches in about 3 hours and 7 hours
>>16865091Starlink is almost daily launches now
What's the status of the ISS? Didn't the NASA schizo woman drill a hole and destroy all the toilets onboard so it had to be decommissioned?
>>16865105that never happened.
>>16865105Yeah, plus nasa stranded two astronauts there for 3 years.
>>16865105>>16865119remember when the iss was stuck in a spin? if this a highly controlled government facility, imagine how fucked commercial stations are going to be.
>>16865120technically its always in a spin
>>16865126The flat disc was supposed to be a manned capsule right? It’s so thiiiiin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_i39TTzGQw&list=PLcoWp8pBTM3ATMYLP-hFIhJORSw-nFOiY
>>16865133give me the tl;dw ver
>>16865128its actually over a mile wide. plenty of room inside.
>>16865128The japanese man does not hesitate to crawl inside of a tiny confined-space industrialized vehicle
>>16865137nuclear power legislation has been made much less burdensome than before
>>16862557russia would be lucky to still be in one piece as a nation by that time lol.all their flights of fancy are complete delusions, they're like the brits, except still in denial about what they've become.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997706687155720229
>>16865179https://www.ark-invest.com/articles/valuation-models/ark-expected-value-spacex-2030the report that was posted here if I remember correctly
>>16865180
>>16865128classical ayy lmao design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjMWs_W_WKMDaily starlink, T-15:00
>>16865177Because Russia's economy is totally going to collapse in just two weeks, right? Human spaceflight in Russia is rotting on the vine, but that's been the case since 1991. Outside of that one field they're still the third most capable space power.
>>16865191>still the third most capable space power.4th, behind (lol) New Zealand
>>16865201Electron's got a good cadence, but it barely registers in the mass to orbit numbers. It's fine if your nation's ambitions can fit into 300 kg chunks and you don't have the need to launch more than 5 tons per year. It's also too small for reusability to actually work.
>>16865179r/SpaceXLounge already debunked the sun-sync data center meme the other dayhttps://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1pfafq0/really_baffled_by_the_oblivion_of_most_posters/
>>16865181this guy should write sci-fi novels
>>16865201I know, I know, but I will always find it hilarious the NZ can come ahead of the first space superpower in any metric whatsoever. Nobody would have predicted that in their wildest dreams fifty years ago.
>>16865201NZ contributes a launch pad and their local operations team, but the technology & most importantly the money is purely American. Calling NZ a space power is the same as calling French Guinea a space power. Its misleading
>>16865226>A New Zealand bubble stock is a "space power"
>>16865179>using a mass driver to accelerate AI satellites to lunar escape velocityloonie hands typed this post.
>>16865241Don't tell the Earthers, cobber.
>>16865179>1megaton/year of satellitesSo within 4 years 5000-10000 Starship flights per year for data centers in space?
>>16865249No retard. the satellites are launched from SpaceX's moonbase with a mass driver. do you even read?
>>16865210lol
>>16865213Musk is making scifi reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-qEmmpGYvA
>>16865284https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086197/
>>16864477>esa will refuse to work with isaacmanDid esa talk to you in your dreams?
>>16865238We should start calling French Guiana a space power to further shame Europe
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1997751635267973256>Falcon 9 launches 28 Starlink satellites from California
>>16865238>French GuineaImagine if they ever gained independence... RIP ESA in that case lol
>>16865284wow the passengers sure used to be pissy princesses in the past
>>16862441pretty big deal if india or russia take it seriously
>>16865312https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization_and_Social_Emancipation_Movement
>>16862938We should sell the remaining AJ-26 NK-33 to ISRO
>>16865210>>16863486It's a sun synchronous terminator orbit specifically.That's the only orbit where you can stay reasonably close to earth and still be in near 100% sunlight all the time.
>>16865319Russia is taking it seriously, they just don't see it as a priority for funding. Given how the Soyuz is capable of launching 95% of their missions for a internal price that' that's probably the best out of all expendable rockets, I can't really blame them for it. Once again, India is going to upgrade it's capabilities while refusing to improve its skills, which is the quickest way to explain all of India's space launch history. It doesn't look like they're going to be buying engines for the NGLV this time around, but I don't have any doubt that's where they're going to end up in a decade or so.
>>16865346Without payloads there wont be a point. Lets hope they can create a reason to even send stuff up
>>16865122Is there a use case for sea-level hydrolox engines?
we need to increase the sea level then
>>16865387w-wouldn't that kill many of earth's inhabitants?
>>16865391humans can float. it'll be fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-YgvC2QoK4>Watch live coverage as SpaceX launches a Falcon 9 rocket with 29 satellites for the company's Starlink internet service. Liftoff from Launch Complex 39A is scheduled for 6:18 p.m. EST (2318 UTC) on Sunday, Dec. 7.The first-stage booster for this mission, B1067, making a record-breaking 32nd flight, will land on SpaceX's drone ship 'A Shortfall of Gravitas', stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.Another one, T-55:00
>>16865179Okay Elon has an insane track record of being right on the money; a genius speculator who has shown he can read the market trends 5-10 yrs in advance, and doubters are always proven wrong…. but this is very fucking retarded and almost outright impossible to believe
>>16865391Wouldn't be the first time.
>>16865398If they nail this one, only one more to match Atlantis with 33 flights. Then, they'd only have Discovery left to surpass, with 39 flights.
>>16865398ROTWC:0
>>16865401what part?the scale, the timeline, putting a starlink laserlink backhaul 100kW (about V3 starlink-sized) inference satellite in sun-synchronous orbit at all?
>>16865250It might not need close to that many, but it's still a lot to send some parts there.
>>16865398HOLD
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1997806536845152686>SpaceX is now targeting a liftoff of the Starlink 6-92 mission at 7:02 p.m. EST (0002 UTC). Weather is not ideal at the moment and was forecast to worsen as the window progressed.
>>16865455and scrubbed ffs. rough weather at the cape
>>16865432How about the demand part. He has a terrible track record of forecasting what is feasible with ML and when.
>>16865461that wasn't done with ML back then
Staging>>16865472>>16865472>>16865472
>>16865461he seems to have a pretty good track record of forecasting what to invest in
>>16865401>Okay Elon has an insane track record of being right on the moneyHyperloop?
>>16865383The use case of sea-level hydrolox engines is keeping SRB engineers employed.
>>16865179Ketamine Sunday huff fest at Elon's
>>16865461Wow I can text and drive in my Tesla but fuck musk honestly
>>16865468>that wasn't done with ML back thenI don't think this is right.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot_hardware#Hardware_1>Vehicles manufactured after late September 2014>The computer is the Mobileye EyeQ3>The EyeQ3 used a neural network approach
>>16865191>two weeksself-own, in the context of russia, especially so, nobody but them has so delusionally set a hard date for something happening using two weeks.to answer your question, generally, selling your gold reserves for any scrap of foreign currency, and even fucking china not accepting rubles from russia for imports is a sign that things a pretty desperate, yeah.as it turns out, face cultures like russia are really good at putting their arm into a woodchipper and grinning smugly, doesn't mean their arm isn't in a woodchipper.
