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We all agree that Messi, Pelé and Diego are by far the best players in the history of our sport.

1. Messi
2. Pelé
3. Maradona

But after watching the whole career of Diego, Messi and Pelé, both Messi and Pelé are on their own league. The question is, we should talk about a Big 2 or a Big 3 like in tennis?
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>>140385548
Maradona is barely top 10

Prime? top 5, even 3.

Overall career? There are dozens of footballers who have won more than him, playing against harder teams.

Someone who didn't prove himself in the biggest stage because he wanted to stay at a small club cannot be in the discussion for the best of all time. Most of his legend is because of the 1986 WC, which was one of the best performances of all time no objections there, but come on, look at his UCL stats. This are all the matches he ever played in his entire career.
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>>140385761
Diego had a great prime in 1986, but Messi had 2010, 2011, 2012, 105 and 2019.
Wich prime do we choose?

I choose Messi by far.
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>>140385548
1. Pele
2. Ronaldo
3. Pissi
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>>140385548
Messi is first, # 2 and 3 depends of your opinion
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>>140385548
>We all agree that Messi, Pelé and Diego are by far the best players in the history of our sport.
no?
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How can one unironically rate Pele, have you seen his highlights? It was a joke of a sport during his time. The top 3 are
1. Messi
2. Ronaldo
3. Maradona
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>>140385548
Maradona is comfortably in that 3-5th range alongside Cristiano Ronaldo and whoever you rate highest between Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Cryuff, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Garrincha, etc.

Personally I have them:
1. Pelé
2. Messi
3. Maradona
4. Cristiano Ronaldo
5. Beckenbauer
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>>140391939
Why Pelé over Messi? In all but one final was Pelé not decisive which was vs Cruzeiro. Every other final he won while being the decisive player. Messi, on the other hand, lost more finals than Pelé. Copa del Rey vs Real Madrid, World Cup final vs Argentina, two Copa Americas vs Chile and one vs Brazil, etc.
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>>140385548
NT performance only:
1. Pelé
2. Beckenbauer
3. Garrincha
4. Zidane
5. Maradona
6. Cruyff
7. Messi
8. Baggio
9. Iniesta
10. Modric
Best GK:
Jorge Campos (FIFA literally had to change a rule just because of him).
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>>140390973
>>140392161
>>140392351
Look at that flag, kek.
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I feel like I can't talk about Pele or Maradona since I wasn't around then.
All I know for sure is I've been watching this sport since before Messi started playing and he's the best player I've ever seen. 2nd best player for me, in my era, is R9.
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>>140392161
because Pele played with the best nation of footballers versus actual shitters and messi had to play real fucking madrid
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Who's the top scorer of all time again??
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>>140385548
Pele > Messi
It's just racism and recency bias

Latinx really don't want to be represented by a black guy, it gives them nightmares
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>>140392351
But Garrincha won two WCs as the main/one of the main guys
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>>140385548
>1. Messi
Lol. Pele is way better. He won 3 WCs.
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Pelé was never tested at the highest level of football. He was never the best player in a single world cup. He was briefly the best player at santos from 1958 to 1963, after then it was Coutinho and before it was Pepe. Both of whom were also Sudaca shitters who did not have the refine of European football.
He is a dude who was at the right place at the right time. In college, I had to give up on researching sports history because my supervisor was another brainwashed Pelé parrott.
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>>140401722
By the way, the best in history is Crujff. Then Beckenbauer, Maldini, Baggio, Baresi, Sivori, Zizou, Platini, Puskas, etc.
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I love how nobody rate Penaldo anymore.
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>>140401722
>Admitting we're refined and you're not in order to try and whitewash your lands
lol
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>>140385548
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>>140392351
>>140401798
actual scientific stats have spoken
you can go ahead and rate '72 plumbers statpadding against farmers but you can't change real life
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>>140401884
I was never racist. I'd rate Eusébio way above Messi, or Mbappé way above Maradona.
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>>140385548
Pagliuca was the true GOAT.
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>>140401896
This pretty much settles it
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>>140401896
THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
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Ronaldo is much better than Pele or Maradona and it's not even close. In fact it wouldn't even be an argument if Messi didn't also exist.
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>>140401896
>neymar
>better dribbling than Ronaldinho
roflmao
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>>140385548
Big 3 it's fine, it's not like the British pushing Murray in the same category as the other 3.
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>>140401798
This.
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>>140401896
Don't make me laugh



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