We all agree that Messi, Pelé and Diego are by far the best players in the history of our sport.1. Messi2. Pelé3. MaradonaBut after watching the whole career of Diego, Messi and Pelé, both Messi and Pelé are on their own league. The question is, we should talk about a Big 2 or a Big 3 like in tennis?
>>140385548Maradona is barely top 10Prime? top 5, even 3.Overall career? There are dozens of footballers who have won more than him, playing against harder teams.Someone who didn't prove himself in the biggest stage because he wanted to stay at a small club cannot be in the discussion for the best of all time. Most of his legend is because of the 1986 WC, which was one of the best performances of all time no objections there, but come on, look at his UCL stats. This are all the matches he ever played in his entire career.
>>140385761Diego had a great prime in 1986, but Messi had 2010, 2011, 2012, 105 and 2019.Wich prime do we choose?I choose Messi by far.
>>1403855481. Pele2. Ronaldo3. Pissi
>>140385548Messi is first, # 2 and 3 depends of your opinion
>>140385548>We all agree that Messi, Pelé and Diego are by far the best players in the history of our sport. no?
How can one unironically rate Pele, have you seen his highlights? It was a joke of a sport during his time. The top 3 are1. Messi2. Ronaldo3. Maradona
>>140385548Maradona is comfortably in that 3-5th range alongside Cristiano Ronaldo and whoever you rate highest between Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Cryuff, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Garrincha, etc. Personally I have them:1. Pelé2. Messi3. Maradona4. Cristiano Ronaldo5. Beckenbauer
>>140391939Why Pelé over Messi? In all but one final was Pelé not decisive which was vs Cruzeiro. Every other final he won while being the decisive player. Messi, on the other hand, lost more finals than Pelé. Copa del Rey vs Real Madrid, World Cup final vs Argentina, two Copa Americas vs Chile and one vs Brazil, etc.
>>140385548NT performance only:1. Pelé2. Beckenbauer3. Garrincha 4. Zidane5. Maradona 6. Cruyff 7. Messi8. Baggio 9. Iniesta10. Modric Best GK:Jorge Campos (FIFA literally had to change a rule just because of him).
>>140390973>>140392161>>140392351Look at that flag, kek.
I feel like I can't talk about Pele or Maradona since I wasn't around then.All I know for sure is I've been watching this sport since before Messi started playing and he's the best player I've ever seen. 2nd best player for me, in my era, is R9.
>>140392161because Pele played with the best nation of footballers versus actual shitters and messi had to play real fucking madrid
Who's the top scorer of all time again??
>>140385548Pele > Messi It's just racism and recency biasLatinx really don't want to be represented by a black guy, it gives them nightmares
>>140392351But Garrincha won two WCs as the main/one of the main guys
>>140385548>1. Messi Lol. Pele is way better. He won 3 WCs.
Pelé was never tested at the highest level of football. He was never the best player in a single world cup. He was briefly the best player at santos from 1958 to 1963, after then it was Coutinho and before it was Pepe. Both of whom were also Sudaca shitters who did not have the refine of European football.He is a dude who was at the right place at the right time. In college, I had to give up on researching sports history because my supervisor was another brainwashed Pelé parrott.
>>140401722By the way, the best in history is Crujff. Then Beckenbauer, Maldini, Baggio, Baresi, Sivori, Zizou, Platini, Puskas, etc.
I love how nobody rate Penaldo anymore.
>>140401722>Admitting we're refined and you're not in order to try and whitewash your landslol
>>140385548>>140385944>>140392351>>140401798actual scientific stats have spokenyou can go ahead and rate '72 plumbers statpadding against farmers but you can't change real life
>>140401884I was never racist. I'd rate Eusébio way above Messi, or Mbappé way above Maradona.
>>140385548Pagliuca was the true GOAT.
>>140401896This pretty much settles it
>>140401896THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
Ronaldo is much better than Pele or Maradona and it's not even close. In fact it wouldn't even be an argument if Messi didn't also exist.
>>140401896>neymar>better dribbling than Ronaldinhoroflmao
>>140385548Big 3 it's fine, it's not like the British pushing Murray in the same category as the other 3.
>>140401798This.
>>140401896Don't make me laugh