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>ENGLAND 0-1 SLOVAKIA

GARETH SOUTHGATE'S ENGLAND CAREER WILL BE OVER IF THEY LOSE THIS MATCH

THREAD THEME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jLlGAZgf3k
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>>142246028
Fuck Foden
Fuck Southgate
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Not only are we losing, this is our worst performance. Hot on the heels of our previous worst performance
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gareth cries after sex
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Cursed
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Kane woke up feeling dangerous
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people often talk about southgate's lack of tactical work but rarely do they talk about just how fucking ugly he is
repulsive bloke
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>rice shoots
>falls to kane
>kane misses - again
lol
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>>142246221
Worse than the defeat to Iceland
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Let's be honest here, we need to increase the allowed substitutions to 11
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big fan of kyle walker just getting thoroughly out-played
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82 mins in
0 shots on target

STILL no subs
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>kane
this guy was 100% cursed by gypsies or something worse
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>>142246430
he played vs iceland in 2016 as well and iirc he was at fault for one of the goals
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>>142246430
This but
>Kane
>Foden
>Saka
>Palmer
>Rice
>Mainoo
>Trippier
>Guehi
>Stones
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Somehow the media will blame it on Southgate not these shit players. And you'll do the same.
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>>142246413
So Southgate can make 2 subs instead of 1?
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>>142246467
>STILL no subs
Palmer came on for Trippier, sending Saka to left-back.
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slovakia 2/5 to qualify hehehehe
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>83rd minute
Bit late Gareth
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>>142246571
Because of a fucking injury, not a tactical sub
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Eze is gonna score because he's not been brainwashed by Southgate yet.
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>>142246543
here is the thing mate, a good manager makes shit players good with tactics, motivation and so on. look at iceland, switzerland etc. if you think Pep Guardiola or Klopp would be struggling then you're retarded.
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>>142246335
Don't look to bad compared to the average Englishman (picrel)
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This is worse than Iceland
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>>142246571
Just as I made that post, Mainoo has now been hauled off for Eze. United fans in shambles.

>>142246675
Should have specified.
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Those 30 odd seconds after Eze came on must have been the liveliest England has looked all day.
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>>142246795
that's a good looking bloke though
looks a bit like thierry henry
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First tactical sub lads
>83 minutes in
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In all seriousness, have you ever seen a bigger cope?
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>first non-injury sub and hes still just switching the same midfield position every match
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>>142246954
What makes you think everything hasn't gone to plan? This is peak Southgate operation. Nothing needs to change.
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>>142246954
He doesn't care, he knows it's over.

>Slovakia lose the ball
>makes no difference because the midfield has vanished and they can even take a shot at Pickford

That's just pathetic.
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england fans need to fill their cups up with piss and absolutely drench the cunt at FT
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Commentary setting up the inquiry
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if he doesn't resign at the press conference then im giving up on football.
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Golden opportunity wasted because they didnt have the balls to bin him after WC
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>>142247321
No, they'll go on twitter and with all sincerity post about there he goes, our "most successful manager"*

*zero cups, nations league relegation, 4-0 loss to Hungary
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>commentators saying Southgate has done so much over the last 8 years and has had many achievements on and off the pitch
lel
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>94th minute attacking sub

I fucking hate him with every fibre of my being
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>>142247656
>world cup
You mean last Euros? The man has been fucking shite. He is at best on par with Lampard
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England's problems
>non-existent left side
>shit midfield
>finishers who can't finish

Southgate's changes
>a new midfielder every match

England's remaining problems
>non-existent left side
>shit midfield
>finishers who can't finish

>Top of his profession
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If only there were a natural Kalvin Phillips replacement.
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>>142247837
The only universal positive Southgate has had is eradicating the club splits in the England camp.

>>142247953
>and it's the betting scumbag Toney as well
lmao lmao lmao
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wtf wtf
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>>142248012
Unironically Wharton is the closest to Kalvin Phillips on the team and hes the only one with zero minutes
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Apologise
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Oh you are fucking joking.
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HOWEVER
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BELLINGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>Clutchingham
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Lel it would be Bellingham
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>like 20 seconds after Foden goes off, England equalises
lmao
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Southgate is getting another world cup lmao

Does anyone in England want that goal?
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*loses anyway*

lol
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all gareth needs is 3 good men and a long throw
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>the one time Southgate uses all his subs
lmao kwab
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I can't believe a player that has only had "a few good months" in his entire career scored for England.
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TONEY LORDS
I TOLD YOU OUR TIME WOULD COME
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Is Southgate allowed to sub out players in extra time?
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>>142248874
who are you quoting?
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I turned off and only knew they equalised thanks to this thread. England will lose anyway. They've scored so they'll play defensive football while Slovakia hold for penalties.
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>>142248865
Are there only 3 subs in the Euros? And don't they get extra subs anyway in AET?
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>still got to subs to spare for Extra time
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FOUR FOUR FACKING TWO
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bake another /comfy/
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>>142248874
bro lives in an elden ring zone
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>>142249085
Nah its 5 subs>>142249160
. Hes got two spare
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Now we can play with an actual fucking team. Toney up front, Kane as the true 10, Palmer on the right, Eze on the left.
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>>142248976
>>142241960
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Put Toney and Watkins on. If you're going to make us suffer do it with memes.
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>>142248874
Mainoo scored?
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>there were people advocating for Jude to be benched prior to this game
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>>142249339
The commentator mentioned it just after I posted that too.
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>>142249488
are you per chance a dribbling retard?
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>>142249599
Not sure why some people are always so hostile when proven wrong.
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>fix the midfield
>fix the left
>everything finally clicks
>two subs to spare +the extra time sub
SOUTHGOD
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So still no saves for either keeper?
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>>142249701
You have to be really high IQ to appreciate the work of Gareth Southgate
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>>142249748
One of the Slovaks sent one straight to Pickford
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HOLY SHIT
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K A N E
A
N
E
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ABSOLUTE FUCKING KINO
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KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE KANE
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>>142249748
Pickford made one.

And fuck me Kane has scored immediately after kick-off.
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WHY DO WE NOT PLAY TONEY UP FRONT WITH KANE AS A 10
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Please, kill me. Someone MUST end this misery
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>>142250075
That would be pretty smart desu
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yeah, england will slurp their way to the final like i thought, not happy to be proven right
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>Toney gets an assist within 4 minutes of coming on
APOLOGISE
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Right this is our starting lineup now
Fuck the other shitters they had their chance
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Apologize to Southgate right fucking now
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>>142250194
should have been banned from football for life
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for fucks sake we're getting another 4 years of southgate aren't we
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>doubting are Garuff
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>>142250181
Southgate is the only thing stopping us from winning by sticking to his insanely shit team formation. The second he subs everyone out and changes the team we start cooking.
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>>142250364
I'm genuinely upset we are winning this
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>>142250520
Filtered
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>>142250242
No. Should have been playing this from the beginning. He'll revert back to the same starting 11 against Switzerland and get raped.
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>give Kane a partner
>win
easy game
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Bellingham scores after 94, before Kane scores after 91
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>>142250364
Gareth is going to call Jude the GOAT as a pundit someday
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>making a good sub extremely late
>getting saved by bellingz having an individual moment of brilliance
heh... my boy gsoufgatz... just needed 90 minutes of time...
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>england have dropped off again
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Everything got better the moment the subs started happening. Shame that took him 83 minutes
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>England already sitting back now they're ahead
lmao every single time
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>>142250714
The only games we've eon are because JBelz scored from nowhere
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Rice being a chad to get it out to Toney. But why are England dropping off yet again?
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Oh that's right I forgot about phase 2
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>>142250911
he's like that for madrid too with the late gols/assists out of nowhere
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Absolutely buck broke these slav fucking shits

Their fans were doing Oles and Iceland claps
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God I hope we lose this on pens, but I'd also half like to see Switzerland completely do us in
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Crazy that Eze is our best midfielder, Saka our best Left Back and Toney our best Left Winger
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>>142250851
lol probably true
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>>142251153
And Adam Wharton our best cheerleader
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Mainoo needs more time.. to impact the game
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>>142251486
he did alright. Main problem has always been Foden on the left
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Lmao england are gonna concede
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>Still sitting back begging Slovakia not to score

lmao
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>>142251486
>game positively impacted the moment hes taken off
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Eze is left back now
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Eze has been immense
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Mental how fucking SHIT Mainoo is
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>>142251966
Palace fans will be shitting themselves.
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If we're going to sit back put Gomez LB then, Eze at LB when sitting back is suicide
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>Bellingham and Kane off
>Konsa and Gallagher on
LOL WHY IS HE WANTING TO LOSE
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>>142252152
He's a natural coward
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I cunting hate Pickford so fucking much I genuinely wish a terminal illness on the cunt
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>>142252152
>penalty takers off
Slovakia please score
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Good comment from the Guardian liveblog:

>“Regardless of the pros and cons of the teams he’s selected it’s exactly this kind of clueless, passive non-management during the games that he should rightfully be criticised for. And I don’t think two minutes of goalscoring in this game should in any way exempt him from that.”
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>>142252277
I hate his performative anger and timewasting but he's a decent keeper
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Eze is a big bloke, how did he get heemed?
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>>142252391
This has described his management for his entire tenure.
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Gallagher is shite
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England are going to lose.
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>>142252506
Pretty much. England scored in spite of him, not because of him.
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>>142252514
They obviously aren't. Southgate is going to drag out the unpleasantness as he does every tournament to ultimately achieve nothing except a new contract
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Shaw looked so sad there
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>>142252635
If the FA renew his contract after this tournament (excluding him winning it of course) then they are not just inept but malicious.
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Fuck it, give him a new contract
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See, England are on the back foot, being pushed back.
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Incredible how much of a coward he is, genuinely
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>>142252402
he needs to timewaste as much as possible if england's going to sit back
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>>142252743
>excluding him winning
Why?
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>>142252970
I missed out a very important word. I should have said "tournament performance".
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Bet Southgate is getting showered in beer cups again
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>play Manure shitter
>don't score

>don't play Manure shitter
>score

It's that simple lads
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>that Toney shot
lol
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why didn't Palmer take it to the corner? also toney... come on lad.
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>Ivan Phoney
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part of me wanted england to lose to get rid of southgate. but toney not scoring that shot is shocking.
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>>142246028
Jude Bellingham is that guy that's all I have to say
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FUCK me I love a good bus park
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>>142253518
They'll get twatted by Switzerland in the quarter-final.
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>>142253357
Need to also make sure there's no Liverpool dogshit on the pitch
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I hope Pickford gets cancer in his dick
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CHAD RICE TELLING SLOVAKIA MANAGER TO FUCK OFF BASED BASED BASED WHY ISN'T HE THE CAPTAIN?
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if england winning they are european champions
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all the City players have been awful. Play Trent and Gordon in the next match
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What do you call the strategy to wait with scoring a goal until the last minute of the extension?
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>>142253548
İf anything though Slovaks should hold their heads high they almost pulled a Iceland there
Sweet Caroline what a song btw
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>>142253604
Oh hey I made that edit. Been doing the PAAARKKKIIIING meme for a few days.
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imagine having the bollox to sing with the fans when you were a 95th minute bike away from going out
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>>142253632
>scored against Serbia and Denmark with a Liverpool player on the pitch
Couldn't be Manure
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>>142253749
Edging
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So what bold CM switch will Southgate make for the next game?
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kek funny how awful england is

feel bad for slovak bros

you deserved to win
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pickford geeing up the fans like we've just battered germany 4-0
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>Real Madrid and Bayern Munich players score
>Everything improved when the Palace players came on
Wew
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>>142254082
He plays for Everton this is as good as it gets in his world
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>>142254082
slovakia are better than germany tbf
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>>142254075
Nah fuck that, them cunts were taking the piss doing Iceland chants and claps.

Their manager is a seething manlet too
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>>142253357
KEK MANURE MONKEYS IN THE MUD
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>take mainpoo off
>saka at lb
>suddenly england score
wow almost like having a left footed player at lb is a good idea.
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>Rate England Players On BBC
>Rate all Black players 1/10
>Rate all White players 10/10
>Close
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Eze was the stand out for me. Absolutely took control the moment he came on. Got the ball forward and came in clutch for the defence
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>>142254730
Wokegate was getting meme'd on twitter for putting Saka LB but it's such an obvious thing to do. Trippiers only skill is crossing and when he plays on the left it's taken away from him.
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>>142249040
LOL
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>>142254082
funny
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>take Foden off
>score 1 and 2 minutes later
maybe he'll play a left winger in the next match
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All our goals have come from these two
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We're going to slurp our way to the finals exactly like this, it's preordained.
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>>142254974
Has to make one change at least, Guehi is suspended.
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>>142255458
So is Trippier.
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>>142255458
Imagine if he picks Dunk....
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>>142253798
Well done lad. Supreme meme

>>142253978
KEK. He really edged until the last minute
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>>142246413
Is this AI or is there an Eastern European The Chase with a lookalike Bradley Walsh?
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I watched the BBC highlights, they were actually shocked that Bellingham scored. Go watch it. His brain froze.
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I want England Germany final
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>>142255569
Didn't realise he was suspended as well, I thought he was just injured.

>>142255590
Surely it's Gomez and Konsa.
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>>142255672
Thanks lad. /trans/ runs this board. Also I've been fan of the AI England anime meme ones too.
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>Scoring a bicycle kick at the end of added time to save the team
Did Bellingham just end racism? Maybe the joy division advert was right after all.
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>>142255758
I don't remember Tripper getting a card. I just remember Geuhi, Mainoo and Bellingham
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>>142254982
They're our best players
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>>142255758
Oh. My bad. He didn't get booked. I swore Matterface said he was. Maybe he went black blind and thought Guehi was.
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>>142255827
He just won the ballon d'or
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>>142255856
Wow what a racist ref
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>>142256240
Questions were asked when Rice got away with his tackle
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/30/england-slovakia-euro-2024-match-report

>Guardian commenters shitting on the performance anyway
based

Best one for me is "Slovakia 1, Slow and Vacuous 2"
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>>142256696
>Slovakia 1, Slow and Vacuous 2
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>SPAIN
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>Switzerland
>Austria
>Georgia
Gareth's masterplan
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Convinced someone from a karaoke bar could do a better job then Shania Twain
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Is Georgia our special agent or something?
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>>142258678
they were

typical spain
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gareth southgate is 1 match away from being england's greatest manager of all time and people want him out lol
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Heard someone on talkshite earlier slating Southgate and wanting him sacked. Made a good argument.
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>>142262739
He won't be wrong either. How do you go ahead against Slovakia and then not bother pressing for a goal to seal it?
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Look at Spain. Go 1-0 down, don't panic, end up attacking, score 4 goals, don't look fazed or anything. England, meanwhile, look completely dead.
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>>142262893
Honestly he wasn't. He was really seething and O'Hara agreed with him. Could tell that cunt Cundy was foaming about it for some reason and just wouldn't listen. Kept talking about Southgate getting England to a Euro final and World Cup semi. Both of which only sound impressive when someone says them. Anyone who had to fucking endure them knew it was down to pure luck or the other side just playing shit.
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Isn't it funny?

When I came here 90 minutes ago and said, "It's coming home", despite us being 1-0 down for the entire game, you all laughed at me!

Well I have to say- you're not laughing now, are you?
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>Hate the Spain team
>Hate the German team
Shan't be watching, hope for many injuries
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I think Saka should play LB. It's just not working with Trippier. He's also injured. Just do it. The left looked a lot more threatening with him running forward, yeah he can't cut inside but he can cross and here is the key part - play Toney as FW and Kane as No.10.
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>>142263766
Think the worst part about the England match was they never asserted themselves on the game until roughly Eze's substitution. Slovakia are ranked 45th in the world. How do you allow a team 40 places below you to dominate the match for all bar 15 minutes?
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>>142265174
Done him.
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Some silly quotes from Declan Rice:

>We would do anything to protect this manager - Rice
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cp9vzn9gy8yo

>"We've got a togetherness, we proved that tonight," Rice told BBC Sport. We'd do anything to protect this manager, protect each other.

>"We'll keep going and keep fighting and what we've got as a group tonight showed out there. It's an honour to be a part of it and we're going to give it everything."

Top 5 highest rated comments:

>Try playing attacking football. That might help him.

>Try passing forwards occasionally

>You know he will start the next match with the same starting 11 and same tactics....back pass....side pass...subs on in 85th minute....

>What a stupid comment. Playing well helps the manager, but protecting him from his own inability to manage a game properly is stupid

>Utterly pathetic performance from England. Saved by a wonder goal from Bellingham. Southgate had no plan but miraculously lives to fight another day.

Nobody is falling for it.
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>>142254982
Based best frens
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>>142265255
Every single England player has said the same. Because they don't want to be known as the 'backstabber'. Or, more likely, if you talk back to the England staff, you get kicked out of the team. See White. Also, what is Rice meant to say other than pointless shitty platitudes? We all want him to lay into the manager but everybody is fucking scared of doing that for the reasons I said. Also post victory euphoria makes you say dumb stuff, but the one thing I've noticed is outside of the interview right after the game, Kane barely says anything compared to Rice. Walker says nothing and he is the vice captain. Is Rice the 'PR guy' along with Saka (who is also weirdly put front and centre, but we know why).
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>Attacking players are way better than the defensive players
>Makes sense to play to that strength
>Put 10 men behind the ball

Was the appointment of Southgate a prank by the FA that went too far?
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>>142265453
We lose either way
We are fucked mate
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>>142265507
Need a propa geeza in. Someone who isn't afraid to ruffle some feathers and tell the FA to shag themselves if they don't like it.
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Top 5 highest rated comments from the Daily Mail's report: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13585383/england-euro-2024-slovakia-gareth-southgate.html
>"England THROUGH to Euro 2024 quarter-finals: Three Lions roar to victory in Jekyll and Hyde match with Lazarus-like comeback from 1-0 down to beat Slovakia 2-1 in extra-time after ruthless Bellingham and Kane strike back"

>So that’s the 4th match we’ve played with a system that doesn’t work. Why is Southgate so afraid of making substitutions or changing things. There should have been wholesale changes at half time but he didn’t make his first substitution until the 63rd minute. It’s so poor. Although I’m glad we won if we had lost I wouldn’t have been too upset as that would have been the end for Southgate

>If ever a team were demoralised and ready to be put to bed, it was Slovakia after Kane scored. Yet what did England do? As always under Southgate, they retreat to their own backline and keep kicking the ball to the opposition, slowly but surely letting them back into the game. It nearly caught us out (again), it WILL end in tears if we keep doing this against the top teams we so far have avoided.

>Firstly, they didn't roar to victory - it was a whimper with luck getting them back into the game. Nor was it Lazarus-like. What it was, in reality, was an extremely mediocre performance with England fortunate to come out as winners.

>Very lucky. We didn’t roar to victory. We were dire. They’re awful to watch and Southgate hadn’t a chuffing clue.

>Not sure what is about these group of players but their egos seem way bigger then their actual skills they were lucky to win against a poorer team yet Again and the way they celebrate is like they have won the tournament? There is something really unlikeable about them and they should learn to show some humility and heart.
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>>142265453
I can tell you the logic behind if you want since I have coaching badges (nothing high). The logic is
>If your best players are attackers and you're playing tournament football, then improve the defensive aspect as your attacking talent will score goals even if you don't prioritise attacking talent
That's the theory. The issue is, obviously, that you kill the natural instinct to take a risk and if you believe the players they're so scared of making a pass that goes wayward that they don't do it and would rather go backwards. Ignoring all that, you then have silly mistakes. Look at the Walker pass to Stones, had that been France, Mbappe would have dinked that in because Pickford always hangs around his box. Shilton has said 'stop doing that' but he doesn't.
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>>142265404
>what is Rice meant to say other than pointless shitty platitudes?
What he doesn't like about the team
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>>142265614
Will never happen, especially after the Bog Sim shitshow.
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>>142265657
Yeah and as I said, that leaves him open for being dropped for 'bringing the team into disrepute'. Sterling got banished from the team as well, he obviously did something. They're not afraid of doing that. Tomori too, he obviously has done or said something.
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>>142246791
acshually they will struggle when their inevitable move to a nt comes. why? because pep and klopp ball takes a couple seasons to start working. thats why they dont usually win trebles in their first couple seasons. And with a nt you have almost no time to train new tactics, few days at most. So yeah they would struggle a lot.
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>>142265808
Southgate has had 8 years. If Pep and Klopp can't get the team to be better than this then they're frauds.
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>>142265777
And you guys are shite because of it. That is what he is supposed to say, you are justifying shitty management
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>>142254982
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Pickford
Walker - Stones - Guehi
TAA - Bellingham - Rice - Foden - Saka
Kane - Toney
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>>142266124
Swap Foden with Eze and that's it
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>>142266124
>TAA
>Guehi
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>janny bailed out the Danekwab
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>>142249040
KWAB
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>>142266124
That's similar to how we set up in the 2018 World Cup, except we have straight improvements in several positions (Rice > Henderson, TAA > Trippier, Bellingham > Alli, Foden > Lingard, Saka > Young). The big issue back then was creative quality in midfield but now we actually have good players that would solve that problem. I don't know why Southgate is still persisting with his current system when he's admitted himself that he's been unable to find someone that can do the Kalvin Phillips role and we don't have any left-footed defenders to play LB.
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>>142265931
I'm not justifying anything. I am saying a player who wants to play for the team saying a bad thing will get that player kicked out of the team. how dense are you?
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Manager:
> Erik Ten Hag

Coach(s):
> Rene Hake
> Ruud Van Nistelrooy

Incoming Transfers:
> Jarrad Branthwaite
> Matthijs de Ligt
> Manuel Ugarte
> Joshua Zirkzee
> Sofyan Amrabat (retained from loan)

Outgoing Transfers:
> Anthony Martial
> Raphaël Varane
> Brandon Williams
> Carlos Casemiro
> Mason Greenwood

Board of Directors:
> SIR Jim Ratcliffe
> SIR David Brailsford
> Jean-Claude Blanc
> John Reece
> Rob Nevin

CEO:
> Omar Berrada
Sporting Director:
> Dan Ashworth
Technical Director:
> Jason Wilcox
Head of Recruitment:
> Dougie Freedman
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>Ipswich have signed Omari Hutchinson from Chelsea in a club-record deal.
Confirmed. £18m+add-ons. Interestingly, Arsenal get 20% of this iirc.
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>>142249040
KWAB
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>>142267057
Will be lucky to finish top 6
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>>142267057
>Dan Ashworth
Not until you pay up piggy
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>>142267057
>> Sofyan Amrabat (retained from loan)
Holy based.
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>>142267089
I reckon 4th.
>>142267165
True but he will be here eventually.
>>142267180
Strongly agree
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This is how the lineups should look against Switzerland like if England were ran by a half competent manager
LB: Trippier (literally only fit player who can play there)
CB: Stones, Guehi
RB: Trent
Midfield: Rice sitting, Bellingham at the 8 and either Foden/Palmer at the 10
RW: Bowen
ST: Kane
LW: Gordon
And for fucks sake, if that doesn't work MAKE CHANGES EARLY ON INSTEAD OF SITTING AND WAITING TILL THE LAST 10 MINUTES OF THE GAME TO DO SOMETHING
I don't even want you lot to win but holy FUCK it actually hurts seeing Southgate manage like this. Even John O'Shea would do better as a manager
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>>142267252
Trippier is injured. It'll be Saka I suspect.
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>>142267057
>Jarrad Branthwaite
>Matthijs de Ligt
>Manuel Ugarte
>Joshua Zirkzee
>Sofyan Amrabat
Hmm, I don't think that's doable with a 35m budget
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ENGLAND
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>>142267252
>TAA at RB
>When he is literally incapable of defending
>Kane as a ST when he isn't fast enough for that any more
>Bowen over Palmer
I am a pro-Kane as No.10 chad.
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>Manchester United are close to reaching a settlement with Newcastle United to appoint Dan Ashworth as their new sporting director, a source has told ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40468788/man-united-hiring-ashworth-sporting-director
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>>142267057
>9th but with a positive goal difference
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>>142267301
If that's true then I suppose you have to stick Trippier on the left. Grim
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>>142267347
>with a positive goal difference
Could you even imagine
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>>142267326
I mean, everybody knows the budget is a lot more than £35M, anon.

Every single summer Manchester United is "broke" and every single summer they spend in excess of £150M.
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>>142267252
Guehi's suspended for the next match. Going by the subs, I imagine Konsa is next up
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>>142267342
Also, TAA if he was at RB means Saka should be at RW because the two actually have chemistry together. But I've also been against Saka starting last two games. He was alright once again tonight but not great, he did good at LB however so fair play.
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>>142267381
hes been doing the 35m war chest gimmick for a while
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>>142267435
Oh. Is he an ABU?
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>>142267471
no way
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>>142267342
Palmer would play as the 10 in my eyes, he's able to play on the right but he's better when he's shifting across the front line.
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>>142267057
AWB is also on the sell list and likely to depart
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>>142267381
Its Arsewog being a schizo again
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https://x.com/BellinghamJude/status/1807510273500025212?t=oM7o0ofzlwv-vO7FUCrKEg&s=19
What did he mean by this?
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Sigh
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>>142268134
God damn the golden generation was shit
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>>142267057
Most excited about the new coaches.
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I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF WE WON OR NOT SOUTHGATE HAS TO GO ENGLAND PLAYED LIKE SHIT AGAIN GET HIM OUT
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>>142268134
How many trophies?
How many times has he beaten top teams in the knockout stages?
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>>142267627
No, it's you Dave, do your multiple gimmicks, you admitted to doing it a few years ago in /trans/, I'd go get the post but you already know it's true
>Arsewog
the hilarity of your schizo delusions, why do you keep this gimmick up? don't you get bored of it?
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>>142268351
Bro you've invented a character and call everyone else a schizo, kek.
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>England were less than a minute away from being dumped out by Slovakia and not registering a shot on target
Bros I don't know if we ended up in the good timeline or not
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>>142268134
Almost like it's to do with the quality of the team and the quality of other teams and the pure fucking luck of getting shitters and the team winning IN SPITE of your performances. Go watch the Talkshite watch along with Cundy and the other twat, Jason(?) and see them SEETHING about the lack of changes and shit.
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>NO SHUT UP DAVE IS MADE UP BUT NO ARSEWOG IS TOTALLY REAL LOOK AS I MENTION ARSENAL AGAIN HAHA IT TOTALLY ISN'T ME :))))))
looooooool DAVE on the ROPES.
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>>142250520
write 5000 words on this topic lol
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>>142268185
HAHA!
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>>142268420
You alright mate?
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>>142268387
The Swiss will cunt them.
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>>142268389
you are literally seething about winning games lmao
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>>142268545
it's unironically coming home
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>>142268551
The performance was utter shit. This is why Southgate remains in a job: mongs like you look no further than the result.
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>>142268591
you're right. fucking hate winning games
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>>142268134
legend
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>>142268710
I genuinely wanted England to lose because it would finally send Southgate packing. But nope, fluke bicycle kick and immediate header after the start of extra time somehow disguises the remaining 120 minutes of absolute wank football from an England perspective.
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Fuck me, the slurp: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg3ej1gd172o

>The clock timer inside the giant Arena AufSchalke had ticked around to 94 minutes 34 seconds when Jude Bellingham took to the air to produce an iconic moment that will take its place alongside the great England goals.

>England had only 86 seconds to spare themselves from the humiliation of a defeat against Slovakia that would sit uncomfortably in the chamber of sporting horrors alongside the loss to Iceland at Euro 2016.

>Failure to do so would surely have signalled the end of Gareth Southgate’s time as England manager - it may still come soon irrespective of their fate in Germany - and a wide-ranging inquest into everything surrounding a mystifying failure to show up at Euro 2024.

>And then came Bellingham.

>In a flash of genius that will be replayed and talked about for years, Bellingham took off in an audacious show of athleticism and individual skill to send a stunning overhead kick past Slovakia keeper Martin Dubravka.

>Think David Platt’s acrobatic hooked finish in the last seconds of extra time against Belgium at this same last-16 stage of Italia 90. Think Paul Gascoigne’s left-foot flick over Colin Hendry and volleyed right-foot finish against Scotland at Wembley in Euro 96. Think the 18-year-old Michael Owen's dazzling slalom run and finish into the roof of Argentina's net in the last 16 at the France 98 World Cup.

>Bellingham’s goal was at least the equal of those as he somehow found the agility to rise and get on the end of Marc Guehi’s headed flick after 90 gruelling minutes when he had again struggled to make his usual impact.

>He turned away, appearing to mouth “who else?” to the joyous England fans. Who else indeed?
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Reminder that Spurs HAVE won a trophy in the last 20 years

England have not
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new PSR accounting year has started. Can we get some trans now plz
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>>142268962
who do you want instead?
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> take off system player twinkle toed academy robot twink

> put on massive hoofball brexit gambling addict centre forward

> immediately score twice

What did Gareth mean by this?
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>>142269381
Someone whose default game plan isn't cowardly sideways passing.
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>>142269564
who?
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>>142268962
It hasn't disguised anything. Everything I've seen written from football journalists and pundits all the way down to goyslop consoomers in BBC HYS comments has been critical of England despite the combined 2 minutes of decent football that got them past Slovakia.
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>>142269584
If he wants the gig, Graham Potter.
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>>142269617
>Prayham Grotter

Jesus fucking Christ
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>>142269524
I wish England would just embrace it and stick to the 4-4-2 hoofball to the big lad small lad up top
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>>142269616
>It hasn't disguised anything.
Apparently some mongs fell for it. This is an extract of the highest rated comment on the Guardian report mentioned earlier in the thread (https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/168346498)

>Now his brain's totally scrambled. Now, because he's only human, he's turned into a total caricature of himself. All leaders in high pressure jobs go mad after 7 years at most... and as being England manager is practically as high in pressure as it gets, he's no exception. Facing humiliation, he made no unenforced substitutions until incredibly late, and even left bringing Ivan Toney on until, what, the 92nd minute?!

>Somehow, it works out. Your two main men get you out of jail, Toney is magnificent too, and your team ends up with its most fortuitous major tournament victory ever. But even in extra time, the moment you take the lead, you sit deep. And deeper. And deeper. Everything your players are suffering from is psychological; everything is in the mind. And it's stemming directly from you - because after taking dog's abuse for so long, you're too scared to be truly proactive and seize the opportunity this event still represents.

>Every single football team at any level is an extension of its manager's personality. All Southgate's many qualities were to the fore in Russia and at the last Euros. All the negatives have taken over in recent months. You're just so scared. But frankly, when a man with his record and of his immense decency has been treated in such a way, that's not his problem.

>It's ours. All of ours. This is the climate we've all created. How in the world we have the brass neck and sheer, unadulterated entitlement to expect anyone to succeed amid such a hideous backdrop, I have absolutely no idea.

What a load of absolute shit.
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>>142269617
potter doesn't even play the footy you said you want. he was completely out of his depth managing big names and got binned at chelsea. sack the man whose won as many knockouts since ramsey for that...
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>>142269768
Most of the replies I bothered to scroll through are critical. Probably updooted to fuck by the editors.
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>>142269983
I'm guessing that one appeared after I'd read it. The majority were critical. Fart sniffing daft cunts like him miss the bigger picture altogether.
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>>142269736
This is the real big brain move. Teams are so used to play against meme formations that 4-4-2 would completely bamboozle them.
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>>142266720
You keep justifying it
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>>142270099
Forgot to say he even made excuses for the inexplicable "one senior left back" squad selection.

>He second guesses himself so much nowadays - as anyone would when they're constantly told they're the problem - that his brain is completely scrambled. Paralysis by over-analysis; neurotic, introspective, but inevitably so given how we've treated him.

So this fool's saying''s Southgate only selected one specialist left back for Euro 2024 because his head's fucked after blowing the Euro 2020 final. There's extrapolation and then there's whatever the fuck that is..



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