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Why do English people defend him so much?
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>nooooo you have to hate a tactical genius
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Seriously, why?
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>>142259605
Do we?
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because every England manager has been shit
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>>142259605
The vast majority of us don't. Dumb upside down nigger
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I'm 90% convinced they're bring ironic.

The last 10% is genuine worry that they're serious and genuinely believe Southgate planned that outcome of the game and that they have beaten mighty Slovakia DUE to him instead of in spite of him.
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>>142259605
He embodies English values and principles, it’s much more than sport chud
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>>142259759
See >>142259714
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>>142259861
>Piers Morgan, a man who built his entire career on being a contrarian faggot who says anything to get attention, says something contrarian
Retard
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>>142259843
Based.
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>>142259861
Piers Morgan is American.
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>>142259605
He will be gone after this tournament if we don't win. And rightly so. BUT the past ~6 years have been the best time to be an England fan in many of our lives
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>>142260043
It isn't just Piers Morgan though. Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, everyone on Talksport, the FA, Sky, etc. They all think Southgate has done an amazing job and is clearly the best man to manage England.
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>>142260153
>BUT the past ~6 years have been the best time to be an England fan in many of our lives
By watching a safe and politically correct onions boy underachieve with one of your greatest generations ever?
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>>142259605
I don't think anyone actually defends him unironically, he's incapable of coaching an attack. But he at least understands that defence is what wins titles while most fans are demanding that he play 7 attackers on the pitch.
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>>142260300
Did Argentina win the last world cup by playing safe and defensive?

A team needs to be driven by passion and energy to win a big international tournament. Southgate England teams are flat and uninspiring.
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>>142260249
>greatest generations ever

Nigger at one point we had

>David james/seaman
>Gary neville
>John Terry
>rio ferdinand
>Ashley Cole
>becks
>Scholes
>lampard
>Gerrard
>carrick
>Joe Cole
>Rooney
>Owen

And then earlier you had shearer, gazza, lineker etc.

Before Southgate we never even got a sniff at a semi final
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>>142260249
You could pick an all time Premier league best 11 out of previous england generations but you aren't doing that with that the current squad
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>>142259605
The 4th place at the 2018 WC and the 2nd place at the 2020 Euro England got under him are the best resuts the english NT has had since 1966
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>>142260249
All that being said Big Sam would have won 2 tournaments by now
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>>142259605
England are incredibly boring with him as manager, but I'm not an ape who throws drinks at people who are "ok" at their job
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>>142261852
>we never even got a sniff at a semi final
italia 90 euro 96???
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>>142262251
callling what he does managing is generous
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>>142261852
It was different then because loads of nations had golden generations, including Portugal (who knocked us out twice) and Czech Republic (who we never faced afaik).
Italy won the 2006 WC, that was the last time it felt like ANY nation could win the WC.
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>>142259836
it's called "growing into the tournament"
proud of you not getting grouped btw
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>>142261852
Not to mention all the depth behind those players. At one point there was Sheringham, Andy Cole, Ian Wright, Collymore, Robbie Fowler, etc just for the striker slots
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>>142262311
>italia 90
>euro 96

Yes, nearly 20 years absolutely nowhere near competitive. It was nothing but

>scrape through the groups and collapse against a big team

or

>scrape through the groups and collapse against a nobody like Iceland

Wasn't that long ago we weren't even guaranteed to qualify for a tournament
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>>142262353
True. Brazil were an unbelievable side in 2002
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>>142262897
they were also down to 10 men for a good half hour or so + seaman made a really silly error for their 2nd goal
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>>142262464
Plus players who never really got a regular starting role or could build into the squad that were top players in their own right. Defoe getting left out in favour of 17 year old Walcott, good players like Milner, Barry, Carragher, Hargreaves, even fucking nicky butt and Phil neville, you talk about the class of 92 and 2 of them barely got in the national team.

We've had some fantastic squads before Gareth and done much worse in tournaments
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>>142261852
No Beckham?
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Anyone who defends Southgate after today's embarrassment of a win is a blinkered fool.
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>>142259605
because non-brits are attacking him
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>>142259605
>Why do English people defend him so much?

barely anyone does, apart from the (((media)))

he's fucking woeful, I hate the cunt, HATE HIM

I wish we had gone out tonight so he's gone by the end of the week - we're not going to win it even with another easy draw so we might as well have a clear out as soon as possible
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>>142259714
>quit fears
>fears
lmao



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