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who's next for shakur
Ryan definitely pulled a Kramer
>>142522276thursday night main event
>>142522276Retirement, hopefully.
3-0 Mosley
https://www.youtube.com/live/7n8dnjFxNrM?si=sAzIsNHbzdeYBJQ4Ldbc losing their minds
>>142522276maybe Berinchyk?
>>142522276Advertising for sleep number.
Yanks must slurp
Is lomachenko catching strays?
>shakur of all people complaining about artem not engaging
>dogshit performance>"he was a good fighter"the iconic duo
>>142522301Bongs must pull all nighters to seethe at 'yanks'
>the crowd was booing ArtemWere you booing Artem, /box/?
By Shakur's logic, vs De los Santos was the "best version" of him
>>142522328I had no reason to cheer for him that's for damn sure. Guy just kept running after the first two rounds
Usyk lost.
>>142522327shakur on his motor bike in an olympic swimming pool sized ring beats loma
jacobs might get stopped later on. he's looking worse for wear already. hard to believe he won 5 of 12 rounds against canelo not that long ago.
what kind of dumbass question is "do you think your opponent should be able to knock you out?"
Lol shakurs shirt says"BOB IS SAVING HIS SON FROM THIS ASS WHOOPING"With an image or lomachenko
Who's Bob?
>>142522361This.This is the post.
>>142522320>I'm not a racist that's what's so insane about this
>"BOB IS SAVING HIS SON [Loma] FROM THAT ASS WHOOPING"That's what shakur's shirt reads
>>142522388bob the builderknowin mafioso running a construction gig as a front to wash his money
I wonder if eduardo will be retardo enough to sign shakira
I thought Jacob’s retired?
4-0 Mosley. Jacobs can't pull the trigger anymore.
Snorekur vs Bumachenko is the fight the world needs to cure insomnia.
>>142522410Even if Eduardo did sign him, what's he going to do with himSeriously, who does he have
>>142522276an exciting fight against a pillow
>>142522411he ain't made no smart investments
>>142522236
>>142522435Wow that's who I just fought tonight!
>>142522411just down on his luck hehlil jacobingz just needs more money
im mma guy and think i just watched boxing at the wrong time these 20 fights dont represent the sport surely
>>142522473>im mma guystopped reading there
>>142522473nah this is pretty much it. it's a terribly boring sport 99% of the time.
>>142522473You sound like a legitimate retardoff yourself crotchsniffer
after this fight, i'm not sure if he really is him.
>boxing gets even worse after thisI bet the jap card will be good but shan't watch it live>>142522295Lol how does anyone listen to that
>>142522593Aw shit, that shit is in the morning, isn't it?
>>142522538i was being serious i just watched a top boxer put me to sleep for 12 rounds and the fight before that was even worse was for a world title toothese guys are just probably boring and i watched on the wrong weekendhow are you offended by this?
heemcord wilin' out tonight
>>142522434>Seriously, who does he havezepeda via the way of golden boy
>>142522614Go back
>>142522614>top boxernah
Derek Chisora vs Inogay, Snorekur and Bumachenko in a 3-on-1 match.
>>142522639heem are mentally ill faggots like most of spnowhere to go
>>142522661In the immortal words of Derek Chisora:
>>142522295“YOU NIGGAS ARE LIVING IN THE WORLD OF US”
>>142522295>https://www.youtube.com/live/7n8dnjFxNrM?si=sAzIsNHbzdeYBJQ4
>>142522630Yeah but eddie doesn't have any say in who golden boy fighters fight
>>142522734Today Candida was based
jacobs is getting beat up
lol, no wonder Top Rank cut Shitkur. He's gonna stay a 'free agent" for a long time.
jacobs with a pull counter out of nowhere, he's fishing for a 1 hit ko
The only reason to remember jacobs is that he got obliterated by one of the all time GOAT's in Dmitry Pirog.
I pray turki never gives shakur a fucking payday. Nigga finna put the middle east to sleep.
>>142522401>>142522320>>142522236THROW HIS ASS OUT HES A
The pride of Merseyside, the greatest boxer to have ever laced a pair of gloves, the Gypsy King, Tyson Fury.
KWABson
At some point it has to be asked: what do you actually want to see Shakur do? He was walking Artem down for the entire fight and clearly, visibly hurting him. He literally mugged him, you could give him 2 rounds if your being generous. Was it just not getting the finish? When Canelo does that, nobody complains. Canelo hasn't finished anyone in nearly 4 years, nobody bitches Is this top rank astroturfing or something, people are acting like he put on the same performance foster did
i think mosley is taking it easy now
>>142522947not a chance. He's fucking done. Not even Hearn will sign him. Maybe a vulture like Ben Shalom or that Jew that manages Jarell Miller.
>>142522988You meant to write KWABsyk
>>142522989I bitch about it. Canelo is just like Shakur. He has no killer instinct. Canelo hurt Munguia and Ryder bad but didn't finish them.
>>142522989It's just not exciting watching Shakur fight
>>142523011KWABson got his ass beat by a middleweight sausage
What time's the Jap fight? Probably the most exciting one of this week.
>>142523042Like 5-6 more hours
>>142522688>>142522734>>142522760>>142522773>>142522805>>142522834>>142522873>>142522902>>142522937>>142522947>>142522955>>142522966>>142522988>>142522989>>142522996>>142523004>>142523011>>142523021>>142523029>>142523031>>142523042>>142523054/sp/ approved stream
>>142522989He didn't visibly hurt shit and its THE Artem hartunyan or whatever? I don't remember Cinabum ever carrying a shitty cherrypick like this. So you're a fucking retard.
is this jacobs humiliation ritual?
>>142523087>5th IP changegive it a rest you stupid nigga
>thanks to all my fans who supported me when I was struggling and living on the coach'Nigga, your dad's Shane Mosley.
>>142523083>THE Artem hartunyanOlympian, at the very least. And it's not like Shakur had difficulties with him>Cinabum ever carrying a shitty cherrypick like this. John fucking Ryder
those sponsors lmao
Dude seriously called out Lara... he'd get KTFO Through pure abuse and not by one punch.
>>142522989canelo has no killer instinct either, but his fights are exciting cus he has power and doesnt run away from exchanges. shakur just defends and uh... pillow slaps his opponents for 12 rounds? also, canelo is in his mid thristies, past his prime. Shakur is 27 and already fighting like he's 40. sad!
>I don't remember Cinabum ever carrying a shitty cherrypick like this.
>>142523128Arten didnt have difficulties with Shitkur either, that's why its funny dumbass.
>>142523150bro he fought a retired jacobs and is calling out old ass lara? its wild that lara would school him being old too.
>>142522989put together combos, get in the pocket and break him down. dude loves to just do 2-3 shots from neutral.
Did Jacobs spend all his money after Canelo and Golovkin? Time to hang it up.
>>142523156Charlo was a unified champ that moved up a weight class, not some guy nobody ever heard of. I don't even rate cinabum but this is a shitty comparison.
To be fair, John Ryder has a great chin. Only the likes of Nick Blackwell and Jamie Munguía can finish him
>>142522276NyQuil endorsement
>>142523031Split decision arguably the wrong call, you're correct about the rest of your post though he is a pint sized little dosser of a man.
these two mma guys are going to show what it means to put on a good show in the boxing ringthe.crackstreams.ws/boxingstreams/boxing-diaz-vs-masvidal-ppv/
>>142523290I like that Masvidal is proud rightwing and unapologetic about it. Nate's probably a dumb asf democrat supporting bozo.
>>142523374I don't think either of them vote desu
>>142523384>I don't think either of them vote desui think you'd be surprised b
nate is a downass foo from the valleyI doubt he votes at all lol
>>142523400I'm sure he likes Trump. Just don't think he votes
>>142523195Charlo moved up two weightclasses dumdum
>these 2 heemlets will make more in this fight than their entire careers in the UFClol
two old ex mma fighters, this is gonna suck
>>142523274kek
The best boxing fight of the night is going to come from 2 UFC fighters, how does that make you feel?
>>142523495Proud
>>142523495How does it feel that they're boxing?And boxing at a boxing event?
these bums do not know how to throw a punch
This Diaz faggot is going to call out Jake Paul after this fight for sure.
>>142523502>he's cuban they're hardcore republicansKek... have you seen Univision? That network is crawling with white cubans and they've got their tongue so far up the democrat parties anus their tongues are coming out of Nancy Pelosi's mouth
who let these slobs in the ring?
This is already better than the Shakur fight
>>142523438Didn't Jake Paul beat up that heemlet on the left?
>>142523559California State Athletic Commission
>>142523615Yeah, he'll win this fight and ask for a rematch. Look how fucking gassed he is 2 rounds in.
MMA fighters lose all their power and speed when fighting with the big gloves. Why?
>>142523629>Look how fucking gassed he is 2 rounds in.>implying i'm watching this shitfunny how you heemtards think anyone here cares
masvidal is the better boxer even undersized
>>142523623>No theyre notYes they most certainly are moron. I have the misfortune of knowing that language.
this belongs in kimbo slice's backyard, not on ppv
>>142523641>I'ma huge boxing fag>but not when these guys do it!Faggot
Literal slop.This is a Don Kino scrap.
boxing has fallen
>>142523688the flair vs about broke was a great fight, this is way worse than don kino
Black boxers are such good company men. You had Timmy slurping Shakur earlier tonight, and now you have Shawn Porter slurping up both these guys. I doubt he'd even watch a single one of their UFC fighters coming in.
>>142523726this is a better match to watch tbdesu
diaz fucking sucks
>>142523672Mmgay guys can’t box. Jake Paul has fully exposed this.
this is such boomerslop lmao
>>142523750Totally agree. At least there's action. Don't think either of these fighters are taking this fight seriously, they both just want to come out safe and collect a nice pay cheque.
these bums punch slower that joyce
*slap spars you for 12 rounds*
>>142523786Joyce could take both at the same time.
Shawn Porter's their age. Throw him into the ring, and he could beat these 2 back to back despite being outweighed and half a foot shorter.
remember when we used to think masvidal could actually beat usman
this diaz bum has not won a single round
>>142523816What happened to meng? He used to be explosive
>both these guys are in tremendous shapeLOL
feed benavidez to diaz
>>142523832Yeah, but he’s game bread
>>142523878bro aged like milk
ogre is peacing the other guy up
>>142523802Any top 50 boxer could if Jake Paul could drop Diaz.
>>142523904He lost his power when he got that gay tattoo
>>142523919i like him im kind of sad to witness his downfall
joyce chisora will be exactly like this
zepeda vs shakira next
jorge cooking now bros
>>142523941Perry would kill either in boxing.
>>142523977One of Gervonta's Trainers, Kenny Ellis, on IG "Breaking News, Lomachenko said he will step aside and let Gervonta Davis fight Shakur Stevenson this fall and he'll fight the winner early 2025"
>lose round>raise hands in celebrationfury-esque
>Shawn Porter has this fight a draw so farfucking lol
>>142524019>he'll fight the winner early 2025"the winner of what? loma vs Berinchykloma vs zeédaBerinchyk vs zepeda???
>>142524083my bad i didnt mean to reply directly to you lol but im pretty sure he means the winner of Gervonta vs Stevenson
Tank's trainer
>>142524083Winner of Tank-Shakur is I think what he means
mega slop but entertaining
>7/3 drawwas it CTE?
>>142524106>>142524116if loma is gonna stepaside then he might aswell unify with Berinchyk so we can have an undisputed champ next year, if not go ahead and fight zepeda, either of two options is fine, anything but not fighting tll next year
I gotta say, I think Nate outworked him. Close fight
>>142524164well he didn't
>>142524113Duckma
FUCKING ROBBERY
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
robbery. nate was hitting gloves and shoulders all night.
lol lmao
he landed less total punches, and they were all just slaps anyway, lost on volume and power, yet gets the decision
>>142524155I dont think Loma wants to desuTbh I don't really know what Loma wants to do if it's not a fight with tank here and now
Should have been a draw if they didn't want Nate losing. Masvidal was landing more and looked way sharper.
horrible robberies tonight. like every night. fuck this gay ass sport. boxing judges tongue my sloppy anus.
Nate could have went 12 easily, masvidal was gassed, good win
>>142523549>>142523629Called it.
Nate going for UFC title at 39
You all have to go back now kthx
ooooohhhh naay-t diaaaazzzz
so who was promoting the mmanent box fight? at this rate there will be another sub division of box which will consist of retired or even active mmanlets having box fights lelif they are making more money doing this than being mmanlets then good for them, I guess
That was a better scrap than most real boxers have. Props to Nate and Jorge for showing these guys how it's done.
Apparently Ryan Garcia showed up at his little brother's fight tonight? He said he was in rehab. Little nigga lied again.Good to see his bro KO'd tho. 3 pounds overweight as well.
>>142524448DAZhit
>>142524448>who was promoting"Fanmio"They do gimmick celebrity boxing
Why did all the heemlets flood in here to discuss their heemshit event?Literally just stay on heem you dorks
>>142524448boxing has manlets as well. personally i dont think fights amongst people under 200 lbs should not be televised, because theres nothing at risk.
>>142524774you said "heem" 3 times on satuday night, on 4chan. you are without a doubt, an incel. bad genetics. no doubts to this.
>>142523290>these two mma guys are going to show what it means to put on a good show in the boxing ringfucking heem faggot
how did nate diaz win? Maybe he got more love taps in but the only person swinging with power as masvidal
>>142525005Remind me again how many mmanlets have died in crotch sniff
>>142525005he didn't and everyone knows it, ROBBERY was trending afterwardsnot sure why the judges think they can make a mockery of the sport and gift a win so outright, makes me wonder who were the judges and if they give a single fuck about boxing or dont mind to make it look like a joke so people watch more mma
>>142525665its also most likely just rigged gambling bs
Oh no fellow boxcels did heem embarrass us again?
>>142522989Canelo is at the end of his career, past his prime weight and isn't fighting random ArmeniansShakur has all the advantages imaginable and he still can't put the guy away
Big Johnny Fisher knocked out Babic in 30 seconds
The jap who killed somebody in the ring last year is fighting right now. His favourite anime is Dragon Ball Z.
>>142527520His opponent Wet Noodle curls 5kg, so it's going to be a killer fight.
>>142526918https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXKGn_n3_g
>>142526918>>142527629Fury bless.
>>142524448You’re probably wider than you are tall
>>142527540He killed somebody again.
I hate to be that guy but does anyone have a link for the Japanese card?They only televised the undercard on YouTube and none of my usual sources have a stream.
4 KDs. At least they stopped it early this time.
>>142527709Most boxcels are.
>>142527797yeah this is a tough one to get. the only one i could find has this guy talking over it
>>142527862Both of them are doing mfw.I miss when asianboxing.info used to negotiate streaming rights directly with Japanese promoters/broadcasters, I've found a 480p ESPN Vivo stream for now so that'll have to do.
just get a jap vpn lol
>>142528035nah i like this guy now
>>142527629Brutal. Babic is washed. That's what hard sparring does to a boxer.
>>142528072Cope.
>>142528035I tried abema.tv/channels/boxing with the VPN on, still getting hit with>申し訳ありません>このサービスはお住まいの地域からはご利用になれません。
>>142527862Yea, can you give us the link?
>Marcos Maidana walking out with the Argentinian champSOVL
>>142528225search for 二先生拳击
>>142527629Early stoppage
Was Martinez sweating or crying under his sunglasses?
>>142527799Shame my browser crashed and I lost my stream link.
Emiliano > Amado > Fernando Jr. Emiliano is looking like he could be world class, Amado has potential but he really needs to tighten up and work on his defense. Fernando is a bum
>>142528381Here's what will really happen:Tank won't land a glove on Shakur, the fight will go to decision, Tank will win anyways, nobody will call robbery because we all hate ShakurGo look back at the Davis vs Martin fight. There were rounds where Tank literally didn't do anything and got given the round for pressuring
>>142524113i promise you tank would rather fight 40 year old lomachenko than stevenson. tank wouldnt lay a glove on stevenson and would lose embarrassingly. tank is like 5'5 and has no speed or reflexes advantage he'd get picked apart
Ioka looking kinda shit. Martinez is really good at pressuring. I think Bam can take them all.
R1 Martinez he wanted it more>ESPN vivo has ads between roundsCan one of you >>142528035 >>142527862 share a link please?
>>142528422tank got kind of touched up by martin look at his face. shakur would also be tagging him like that while not getting hit. yeah they could rob him like they robbed whitaker vs chavez but every body knows who really won
Martinez is really head hunting. Ioka doesn't seem to be affected for some reason. He's just eating them. 2 rounds for Martinez.
>>142528441https://live.qq.com/10081923
>>142528441sharing a link means nothing, because apparently >>142528168 it doesn't even work
2-0 Martinez, he's swinging wildly, landing a fair few, and will tire himself out at this rate.Ioka sticking to working the body.
Martinez is significantly bigger than Ioka in there. There's literally no body work from him. I dunno how the judges sees this, but they're not really homers for the Japanese boxer. Ioka is definitely more active, and landing more, but Martinez is smacking Ioka's head but to seemingly no effect.
3-1 Martinez. Ioka's work rate dropped off in the 4th. Barely anything from him. Martinez still smacking Ioka's head around. No body work again.
For me, it's got to be Tyson Fury.
>>142528497Thanks, pal.
Better round from Ioka. i think he might've been wobbled or something from the punch 30 seconds in. Closer round, but still Martine for me.4-1 Martinez.
GREAT round. Both guys standing at the centre of the rings trading. One guy who throws nothing but head shots, and one guy who does nothing but digs to the body and throws a few uppers here and there. I think Martinez might've gotten hurt to the body at the last 30 seconds? He backed off and tapped his left side and stopped throwing.4-2 Martinez.
1 minute onslaught from Martinez smacking Ioka's head around the ring. Wore himself out, and Ioka worked his body for 30 seconds. Martinez then worked on the back foot just jabbing Ioka to the head.5-2 Martinez.
I still want Bam to clean his division out, maybe fight Chocolatito if he can, but he could easily beat both these guysBam vs Nakatani might be the fight in the next 2 years
Martinez probably stole R7 at the end there.Ioka only has 2 or 3 rounds on the cards, he needs to hope the left hook upstairs scores a knockdown.
Lots of back and forth in round 8. Work rate dropped for Martinez. Probably doesn't help that Ioka's hair flops around when he gets hit in the head, which he does a lot. I think Martinez is just cruising. Ref stepped in first time of the fight to warn Martinez for a hit to the back of the head.6-2 Martinez.
>>142528914Ioka is doing good work to the body, he won R8 on my card for that.They're clean, hard and scoring shots but you're right about eyecatching headshots Martinez is landing, if he had any power Ioka would be in serious trouble.
>>142528963Ioka for some reason stopped going to the body for round 9. He's trading with Martinez to the head, and he's losing the exchanges. Yeah, round 8 could be a swing round for both.Martinez 7-2.
Just turned it on has ioka been eating punches like this the whole fight?
If you're scoring on memorable shots, Martinez won R9.If you're scoring on effective aggressiveness and ring generalship, Ioka won R9.
>>142529025Yes. Martinez couldn't stop Jerwin Ancajas despite having 24 rounds to do it, something the pillow-fisted Takuma Inoue somehow managed.
Looked like martinez slowed down that 10th round
Martinez is moving a ton and winging on his shots. Only for a small part did Martinez landed a good shot on Ioka which sent him to the ropes. Other than that, Ioka was more consistent, coming forward, and landing more punches.7-3 Martinez.>>142529025If Martinez had any power, he would've actually done damage. Ioka's been eating punches to the fight with seemingly no effect. On the other hand, I think Ioka has hurt Martinez to the body a few times, making Martinez back off.
Martinez mouth wide open
Did Martinez break his nose? He kept touching it with his glove. Another shit round from Martinez. Moving on his back foot, not doing much. Ioka chasing and landing, mixing it up to the head and body.7-4 Martinez. Ioka needs a KO in the final round.
Ioka is in "needs a knockout to win" territory.Unless there's a hometown decision (or judges who really value bodywork), should be a UD Martinez.
Ioka still bouncing on his feet. Not so much martinez
>>142529159>He kept touching it with his gloveHe's been doing that since the 5th or 6th, no blood so I don't think it's broken.Possibly a tic or signs of a coke habit.
Kek, Martinez breathing so heavily with his mouth wide open that he was visibly drooling for a second there.
Good last round for Martinez
>gets hit by a punch>touches the canvas before the bell to end the round>no knockdownRIGGED RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED
GREAT final round for both fighters. Both traded in the middle of the ring for the first minute, then Martinez took over. Stream cut out for a minute, but then, Martinez came back, but slipped in the last second.Dunno how to score it since I lost a minute. But I gave it Martinez. 8-4 Martinez for me.
R12 should've been 10-8 Ioka in a just world.He should still lose the fight to Martinez but will be interesting if the scorecards are close.
>>1425292648-4 from ESPN as well.
>116-112>117-111>120-108Martinez winner by unanimous decision
Whoa a 120-108 scoreSomeone thought Ioka was getting beaten up
>>142529264Meant Ioka took over* after that exchange.120-108117-111116-112 Fernado Martinez by UD.120-108 card is a joke.
ESPN angry as fuck over the 120-108 card. They're laughing and calling it shit.I had it 8-4, with the swing round which could be 7-5 at worst. Martinez won no doubt, but 120-108, LMAO!
Ioka with his wife and kid.
>>142528302Lol
Rolly's in Japan.
>>142529472What's the art in the background from?
>>142529570Doesn't look like it's from any 1 thing. It's probably an anime art expo, with a bunch of characters from different sources.
Eddie needs to throw money at Martinez and get him in the ring with Bam. Unify 3 belts, maybe have Bam become undisputed in 2025, and then move up to 118 in 2026. Hopefully Nakatani is still there.
>>142529651Makes sense. I'll still try to find out where the guy holding the blade(?) on the left side of A is from, looks vaguely familiar.>>142529675>Eddie>unifying beltslmao
>>142529790100% this.It's a CLAMP art expo. You can see the L and the A.
>>142529675The Inoue fight is very unlikely to happen any time soon so I think Nakatani is going to stay at 118 Rodriguez is probably the biggest payday he could get down there, no way he makes Inoue money while Inoue is still fighting and selling out the tokyo dome. His team definitely realize this
>>142530014Now you'd have to ask yourself this: What was Rolly doing at a CLAMP art expo, where the manga is targeted towards women? And how was this Japanese woman able to recognize who Rolly was?
>>142530296>What was Rolly doing at a CLAMP art expo, He's a hidden weeb, a surprising amount of modern boxers are>where the manga is targeted towards women? He likes to fuck women >And how was this Japanese woman able to recognize who Rolly was?Boxing is mildly popular in Japan and they largely pay attention to weight classes below 150. It's not unimaginable that'd she'd recognize him
>>142530397I took a look at /a/ and they seem to have a thread on the CLAMP expo, with people poster their merch haul. It's not inconceivable that one of them might be Rolly.In fact, I might be talking to Rolly right now.
bros I legit fell asleep in round 9 on Shakur's fight.....not even joking. Did he dominate in the later rounds or not?
Ooohhhhh robeson concescsaiooo
>>142534962Lol no, it was the same shit the entire way. I left midway through the 12th to watch the Diaz /Jorge fight and that was way better
i used to really be into boxing, but that was like 12 years ago. i still watch highlights here and there. trying to get back into it. who are the main fighters now? afaik, crawford is like the p4p #1 right.
>>142537748>CRAWFORD>INOUE>USYKAre the holy trifecta with Canelo maybe. Shortly an obese bong will say that it's Tyson Fury and some other bri ish boxers but just ignore him.
>>142537748>who are the main fighters now? afaik, crawford is like the p4p #1 rightCrawford is the true #1 but he's got the Roy Jones problem of being too good for all his opponents so its hard to give him his props, Bob Arum is doing such a bad job promoting him it makes you wonder how he ever sold Marvin Hagler.There's the Naoya "The Monster" Inoue, a Japanese knockout artist who doesn't like fighting outside of Japan.But the people's champ right now is Gervonta "Tank" Davis, pure soul but he came up under Mayweather so he's happy making a living exclusively fighting no-hoper bums.Canelo is still avoiding David "The Mexican Monster" Benavidez.In the heavyweight picture, there's the undisputed champ Oleksandr Usyk (who recently got stripped of a belt for fulfilling a rematch clause with Tyson Fury, so he's not officially undisputed anymore) - both Usyk and Fury are over 35 years old.Anthony Joshua is fighting current beltholder Daniel Dubois in September, Joshua is almost 35 and Dubois is still in his 20s.Moses "Heir Apparent" Itauma is being touted as a future heavyweight champ and mainstay, he's been knocking out bums and his working his way up to journeyman/gatekeepers now.Bob Arum is trying to sell Jared Anderson and, despite not being very good, the new Saudi head honcho has taken a liking to him.Post a source for your webm for more information and inside scoops.
>>142537748Oleksandr Usyk is undisputed heavyweight champ and p4p #1. Crawford is #2. Inoue #3
Fury won.
>copes
>>142527629>>142528083babic isn't a hw to begin with. And he's never been any good.
oooohhhh janni-kek alakamulyyy
Anyone here care to apologise for doubting Robbem Conceiçao? It's only through god given catholic faith he was able to smite down the American Heretic.
>>142522276
>>142541060OOOOOH SHAQUIE FOAWSTAHHHHH
I missed the Japanese card, didn't i?
>>142539074I will post sauce later, my wife is around.What happened to that prospect from NZ? I forget his name.
>>142539096GODsykGODfordGODnoueThese three make the Holy /box/ Triumvirate. This is the /box/ consensus.
>>142542865Do you fap to more attractive women and hide it from your wife?
>>142542898I reckon Butterbean is less of a munter than his missus
>>142542865>What happened to that prospect from NZ? I forget his name.are you talking about Parker?
>>142543500Well his Butterbean does beat your nonexistent situation I suppose. Talmbout nonces like Cassius Clay, Bill Haney or Cus D'Amato there b?
>>142543465>>142543663Excellent roasts.
>>142537748it's Crawfish, Inoue and Usyk competing for the P4P #1. Bivol beat Canelo and if he beats Beterbiev he will also be up there. or, well, Beterbiev if he beats Bivol. everyone else is a level belowRyan Garcia got very popular recently for his instagram following, weird schizo antics, doping controversy and upset win over Haney. he's not up there with the best of the best, but he's a fun trainwreck to watch
>>142543781>but he's a fun trainwreck to watchMaybe if you like retarded twitter drama and are an actual homosexual fairy. He’s a cheating, lying bum who cares more about being a retard on social media than boxing. It’s not even entertaining, it’s just annoying.
>>142542898my wife is pretty attractive. but i stil can't stop looking at hot girls
>>142544049Do you fap more than you have sex with her is the question
>>142543581sorry, not NZ. I was talking about Jai Opetaia. my buddy kept mentioning him as a pretty exciting prospect.
>>142543690I draw a lot of influence from HE Tyson Fury pbuh, all glory goes to him.>>142543741I accept your concession, you'll find yourself a Butterbean to spoon the instant you stop thinking about Cassius Clays all day.
>>142544083What is wrong with you?
>>142544083no i haven't fapped since we married. i get a bj at the very least.
>>142544038he is a piece of shit, but I still couldn't stop myself from smiling when seeing him beat up Haneythe retard "spam left hook and turn my back" tactics actually working vs a guy many people had on their top 10 p4p lists was hilarious
>>142544049>>142544160Not the most subtle trolling I've ever seen, it'll probably work on your intended audience they're a few gloves short of a gym.
>>142544186>NtaTo be fair, there isn't much you can do, especially when you don't have killer power lol
>>142544108yeah, he's doing good for himself for sure, most say he's probably the best cruiserweight nowadays
>>142544228why are you so pressed bro?
>>142544258>>142544108there is much speculation as to who he'll fight in the future. it's possible that he tries to pick up the other belts and then fights Usyk, who is considering moving back down
>>142544323I'm impressed not pressed b, I'm going to use this myself later when on holiday and a foreign IP. Did you manage to catch the Masvidal/Diaz spectacular last night?
>>142544186It was entertaining to see him beat up Haney, but the entire lead up to the fight was so cringe that it actually turned people away because they werent sure if the fight was happening or not because Ryan wanted to go on and on about bohemian grove and other dumb shit. Before that Ryan’s fights have been very boring to watch since Luke Campbell floored him. At least the Haney fight was entertaining, but if he had actually tried to make weight + didnt juice up the day before the fight, it’d probably be another mediocre fight. Even with the success he was having he still kept doing the bussy roll shit, which is just frustrating to watch.Ryan in general is a frustrating fighter because he has great potential, great natural talent. Imagine if he actually took boxing seriously, trained hard. He wouldnt need to take so many shortcuts and could be an actual force to be reckoned with. But now he’s just getting drunk and saying dumb shit that gets him in trouble. It’s a complete waste and it’s sad to see. Ryan could have been a top fighter if he actually just worked hard and got his priorities right.
>>142544533What a magnificent specimen of a man, Del Boy is alright too but sometimes says daft things re: middleweight dossers.
>>142544323He’s always like that. He’s a sad fat pedo from heem who only hangs around to get scraps of attention. He’s always bitter because everyone shits on him no matter where he goes. If not, they just ignore him which makes him even more rattled. Sad fuck doesnt even watch boxing. Genuinely a waste of space
>>142544531no did not. i didn't even know they were fighting. gonna check it out.
>>142544605jesus christ. i just turned it on. this is horrible
>>142544605It's bum tier madness but Diaz is charismatic enough to pull it off and I think looked better than in the Jake Paul fiasco. Masvidal was as bad as I thought he'd be given inactivity and age. Definitely a circus fight but they packed the Honda center and the crowd were into it, pretty fun slop and pretty awful boxing at the same time. >>142544586No one is reading your paragraphs on 4chan personalities you've made up b.
>>142544586poor lad just wants attention quite sad innit
It's another 10-8 round for bEstonia.
>>142545835Yer man hasn't been seen since the image got posted, hope it's not caused any family friction. Would hate to see the Haneys break up.
Finnchad won.
>>142546138And yet he posted today ITT >>142523916 Feel free to drop an archive link to the fabled image you constantly refer to and yet curiously never produce. You won't.
>>142544038imagine seething this hard cuz Ryan easily beat your favorite hypejob.
>>142546179Decisively might I add. Shades of Ryan/Haney or Fury/Wilder 3.>>142546499You can find it in the archive searching deleted posts with my flag and the word escort, interesting that yer man only posts when I'm not around now KWAWLB. Never in the history of boxing has there been a more pathetic duck, his day will come when the little dosser finds his bollocks and puts his rubels where his mouth is.
>>142546732So the story changes from "he hasn't been seen" to "he only posts when I'm busy raping children". Why can't YOU post an archive link of YOUR post? You duck this question harder than fury ducks drug tests. 10-7 round to bEstonia.
>>142544871hey son how you doing
>>142546960Not too bad, missed K-1 but watched ONE and the Meng/Diaz scraps this weekend so bloodlust has been satisfied. How about yourself, how's your Butterbean?
>>142546966a) he does post here at the same frequency he always did2) you've spent the past 2 weeks pedo spamming about Muhammad AliD) post link It's another 10-8 round to bEstonia. Verification not required.
>>142547027Don't flatter yourself, I can reword for you though b. I trust your Butterbean is doing well.
>>142546894Gotta call this a 10-8 round for finland. https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/140364214/#140379245
>>142547555Haneystonia thinks I'm a cook and posted vpn spam here calling me a Cassius Clay, in return you can see the factual post I made revealing he is, as Canelo would say, Hijo de Puta, he shares a similar background to Mike Tyson, his ma is a well worn boxing glove and that's in the archive now no matter how much you report the posts. :)
ryan garcia is a fucking BUM
>>142547990Suppose he comes back: What does it look like? Clearly, he's been going down hill after Tank. Even in the Haney fight, when he wasn't hurting or knocking Haney down, he was getting outboxed. His drinking and suspected drug abuse is getting out of hand, and a year out of the ring is only going to amplify that PLUS all the recent drama. I'm positive his career is reaching an end. Whether he retires or gets retired
>>142546677Loma beat Devil Hiney. I'm not even a Hiney fanboy.Doesn't change the fact Ryan is cringe as fuck. You'd have to be a literal gay, underage latinx retard to get behind cryan. Ryan used to be a promising prospect but he pissed it all away with his awful lifestyle choices.
And still.
lol
>>142549089still butthurt lmao
>>142548158He could win some more high profile fights if he’s matched correctly and keep making money, but he will never really be elite. He loses to all the best guys at 147 and 154, don’t think he can really compete at 160. He can beat other overhyped bums like Conor Benn and make money doing it, keep the casuals hyped, maybe even win a vacant belt or knock out a paper champion. But of all the 4 queens, Ryan is the least likely to ever get P4P recognition.
>/box/ dies when a europedo postsRangeban when?
They misspelt "pitbull"
>>142553284Also:BudCruzMaybe Ruiz if he got his snicker. Miller if he got his PEDCanderson, but I hope jokole winsMorellIdk
>>142553284Rayo is beating shitbull cruz
>>142553452You will learn to appreciate Pitbull Supremacy whether you like it or not. Hopefully Gayo facedown on the canvas will help you realize it.
>>142553547>Shitbull supremacy…*THE* Giovanni Cabrera??
>>142553833One jab, and it's over. BOOM. Cruz only needs you to jab once, and you're on ice skates. Gayo will jab and get immediately punished for it. He will brutalize him worse than THE de los Santos did to him. Screencap this.
>>142549089he's asking for them to 'do something' about it on twitter. apparently they just cant lose
>Ryan's shitty brother got stoppedGood
Did Shakur blackball himself from boxing? He's so goddamn boring and yesterday was his last chance to make a statement so that he could look good to promoters once he begins free agency, but he fought boring yet again. His own hometown fans were even walking out midfight. There's no way they can put that man on PPV, and I don't see how they can promote the man. No one is gonna fight him or sign him especially once he ends up losing the belt
>>142555776There's really isnt much Shakur can do. He's in Haney's boat, but at least Haney had his fights against Loma and Poogays where he looked like he had some power. Even against Ryan, he hit him good a few times. Shakur needs to pray tank takes him as an opponent so he can get some respect back, or at least enough momentum so he can fight some other big name
>>142555776>>142555827>Shakur Stevenson has revealed that he turned down a $15million five-fight deal to re-sign with Bob Arum’s Top Rank (guaranteed minimum purse of $3million per fight) so he can instead become a free agent.hes that stupid
>>142556065Being a free man is worth more than 15 million from the white man's hand. Power to the people, brotha.
>>142556502He can't sell for shit, he's trying to copy canelo and Crawford and Crawford online succeeded because he had Spence to fight and turkey likes him, shakur doesn't have that, maybe Crawford can vouch for him
>>142556556>>142556556You know, maybe Crawford can ask turki to put him on the undercard for someone like bud or Canelo for one of his mega cards? That way, he's most likely going to fight a name people want to see him against and people will actually pay for his fights!Idk man, I'm just speculationing. Literally what do you do if you're Shakur? He's a modest counter puncher who isn't afraid to be boring. Also he has zero fucking power. What the fuck do you do if you're Shakur? You gave 15 fucking million dollars and free slurping for what?? I seriously don't know what Shakur can do 2 boring fights in a row. He is officially boxing's most boring fighter. At least Devin Clinchy had 3 good fights in a row.
Would you rather watch Haney vs Kambosos 1 and 2 or Shakur vs De Los Santos and Atrem?
>>142556630>You know, maybe Crawford can ask turkithat could be his best hope but dunno if turki would want to work with someone as boring and unpopular as him> He's a modest counter puncher wrong, hes more of a pure boxer than anything else and to make things worse hes the worst kind of pure boxer because of this that you already said> isn't afraid to be boring.
Diaz won, Fury won, Haney lost.
>>142561215Factual post.
God bless you Oleksandr
>lost to a middleweight>nonce copes
>>142562030Excellent acknowledgement. Fury bless.>>142562056More like Draftdodgesander "the Twat" Dogsyk
Imagine if Wrongsa actually put as much effort into losing weight that he does into cope posting
If Tank beats Shakur then Loma, how will you rate him?
>>142562996He’d go down from Titanweight all the way to middleweight I’d reckon
>>142563022top 10 p4p, maybe top 5 but not top 3
>>142563022he can't beat loma, even old Loma. I never wanna see Shitkur again, so idc.
>>142563469>he can't beat lomaTank is going to KNOCK him the fuck out, hes not fighting pillow hand haney, or george kambozos, hes going to fight a guy who can and will knock his punk ass out in 1 punch
>>142563505Loma's already fought punchers. Never been stopped. Tank can knock over cans but arguably lost to Shitbull.. Loma's far better than anything he's ever been in the ring with.
>>142563022If he stops them both, he enters the p4p discussion. Top 10, like the other guy said
>>142563671>NtaAnon, I hope for your sake, Loma doesn't fight tank, because that dude is getting stopped
>>142563726I hope he does cuz Tanks been ducking him for like 7 years now. He's got an ass whoopin scheduled.
>>142563145>>142563692Just out of curiosity, who is in your current top 10? Always a fun thought exercise for /box/, and the list is always changing
>>142563022Tank ain't ready yet.
>>142564397I'm about head out but here's my top 51. Usyk2. Crawford3. Inoue4. Bivol5. BamCanelo knocked down for not doing anything with the belts
WHEN tank beats Loma.WHEN tank beats shakir.
Lets not act like Tank won't beat old ass Lomachenko Totally expect Shakur to dance on him though
>>142564707Shakur probably beats him easily. Tank's team is pretty smart, so I would expect them to throw WHERE Shakur will pull to. Shakir likes to pull back as his main form of defense, and no one has really tried to punch wide to catch him pulling back. But it could be de los Santos all over again
>>142564397CrawfordTankUsykCaneloBivolBeterShakurTeoBamLoma
>>1425643971. Usyk 2. Inoue 3. Crawford4. Beterbiev 5. Bivol6. Canelo 7. Bam8. Fury9. Loma10. Teo
>>142564397usykinouecrawfordcanelobivolbeterbievbamnakataniteoloma
btw now that we are talking about p4p, what is the criteria that you anons are using for your lists? for me its very simpleachievementsresumeactivity skilldont care about popularity or money
>>1425643971: Usyk 2: Inoue3: Crawford 4: Bivol5: Beterbiev6: Clenelo7: Bam8: Tank9: Haney10: Junto
>>142564707Tanks not on his level. Simple as.
>>142566261For me it's simply just the first 2, I don't think activity matters unless you havent beaten someone for 2 years or more, and I dont think a fighters actual skills should be taken into account because then lists become even more subjective. How do you even really measure someone's skill other than the eye test? All that really matters to me is who you beat what you've accomplished
>>142566261I use a 4 step process that has to pass every stage to make it on my p4p list:1) Ethnicity 2) Britishness3) The /box/ consensus4) Confirming it on the Furycord
>>142564707You can't just keep making these assumptions like Tank defenders have done for years now. Loma arguably shouldve beaten Haney, who was, bigger, younger and more active than Tank was/is. Loma looked brilliant against Kambosos, but I'll concede that so did Tank against Martin. Its still a 50/50 fight despite the age gap in my eyes
>>142566261My lists is structured by who I think would win a hypothetical tournament if everyone fought at the same weight. I'm retarded, so I can do that
> July 9 - July 14HANWA vs. KIWOOMKIA vs. LGLOTTE vs. SSGNC vs. SAMSUNGDOOSAN vs. KT>Livestreams and VODShttps://www.sooplive.com/category/kbo-league/live>Guide to the KBO Leaguehttps://sporttasty.com/what-is-kbo-baseball/
>>142567645mb
>>142567645Never watched baseball but I loved moneyball, goated movie
Froch dodged Calzaghe according to HE Frank Warrenhttps://youtu.be/_r1iJipmT1g?si=Wj3xmNseXhQTIP-a@14:10
>>142568262All he will be remembered for, just like Buster Douglas
>>142522328They weren't booing. They were saying Boo-urns.
>>142522989>Canelo hasn't finished anyone in nearly 4 years, nobody bitchesThis thread bitches about everything Canelo does.
>>142569020Maybe if he wasn't a cherrypicker that staged rigged fights people wouldn't bitch.
>>142569379Name 1 stages Canelo fight
>>142568777>>142568842Fury's greatest accomplishment will be losing to a middleweight for Usyk's undefeated multi-time undisputed legacy.
>>142568183Froch would get schooled.
Andre Ward never lost.Floyd Mayweather never lost.Cope and seethe, bums.
LOL flukesyk is older and smaller than fury… no way he will land that lucky punch in the rematch
>>142569660Imagine falling for this bait
>>142569643Don't ever put that lightskin devil in the same POST as GOATWEATHER
>>142569782SON OF GODBEGONE HEATHENTHIS IS A CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM GENERALCHRIST IS KINGALLAHUAKBAR
>>142569825KEEP DEFENDING THAT WHITE DEVIL ANDRE WARD! HE DOESNT COME CLOSE TO THE TBE
>>142553284wow undercard is based as fuck
Fury?Won.
>>142569404Kovalev is the most obvious, but the GGG fights looked rigged. GGG just jabbed with him. Never even went after it. Pretty sus compared to how he went after all his previous opponents.
>>142569643Ward lost to Kovalev and had to cheat 2 vs 1 to "win" a rematch.Maweather lost to Castillo, Maidana, Pacquiao, Oscar and you could argue Cotto. >>142569808Nah they're just pussies that can't handle the bantz. The word is useless without their feminine reaction to it.
>>142570477>malding latinxUndefeated, unlike clenela
>>142570561slavesa please. nobody believes your myths anymore
God Bless The Gypsy King Tyson Fury.
>>142570636>nobody believes your myths>posts cope
>>142570311>checks boxrecumm, nope.
>>142570651i know its hard watching Shitkur and Haney, and your other hypejobs lose but its your new reality now, slavesa. Oh and don't forget about Wilder. Who's got the pics?
>>142570734This pic? Reminder: Shakur, Haney, and most importantly, Floyd are all undefeated against mexicans. But please continue to cope; I know it's what you do best
Oscar is talking about a fight between Plant and Munguia. How do you guys see that going?
>>142564754I think the issue is that Shakur does like to pull back, but he also likes planting his feet while he does. He was getting tagged by Artem late in the fight cause he was pulling back, not moving his feet, and not countering (which is the whole point of using the Philly Shell) Don’t wanna do that against a guy with Tank’s power. He was moving a lot more earlier on and his defense looked great, but he just wasn’t moving the same late in the fight.
>>142571896>He was getting tagged by Artem late in the fight cause he was pulling back, not moving his feetI think this was the case because he was trying to walk down Artem by that point. I saw that two, some of his hooks and straights landed on Shakur's face, but I don't expect Shakur to fight like that against tank
>https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-jr-tells-stevenson-good-riddance-says-shakurs-value-2m-per-fight-like-him--184728wtf I like teo now
>>142571695>How do you guys see that going?almost same way as the plant vs mutt fight but unlike that one the mong will stop plant, still tho I would like to see mong vs bumlanga first
>>142572448Mungia vs berlamega? Why waste his time? He'd be better off fighting a charlo as a comeback fight
Emiliano Vargas beat the shit out of a redditor in sparring and then posted it on Instagram kekhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1dy2nlu/why_the_vargas_dynasty_of_boxing_are_not_humble/
>>142572470I dont think that bumlanga or even catto are a waste of time, mong needs a very winnable fight next and those two options are good for himbumlanga = polto liko vs mexicocatto = nibbas vs tacosafter that fight sure plant should be next, theres no need to rush the plant fight when that fight doesnt really give you anything more than the other two, specially the bumlanga fight
>>142572572True representatives of /box/ then
>>142572572Rare reddit win. Vargas is a faggot chud who got beat up by a redditor who weights 118
>>142522236Teofimo bros.. he is horny as fuck
>>142573095He's going to get rinsed again, doubt he learned from being a girl boss feminist cuck
Shakira Twitterson is tweeting again
Is this an image of Shakur getting ready to blow Prograis?
>>142573739That's not Prograis, that's the Puerto Rican Demon, The Chosen One, The Monster, Edgar Berlanga.... the man to give Clenleo his first KO loss
>>142570311>lost to a middleweight>nonce cope changes nothing
>>142573095Can you take and keep Nina we don't want her
Fury was robbed
Fury Bless.
Usuck lost.
>>142553284>They misspelt "pitbull"that's how he pronounces it anon
>>142574145It’s time to stop replying to him or even acknowledging him. Just let him stew in his misery, alone. After this post he’ll keep spamming the same cope in hopes for a sliver of attention, but you shouldnt give him any.
Usyk cheated in Saudi Arabia that motherfucker is juicin' courtesy of the turkey bin laden sheik2 sneaky fuckers that cant be trusted.
Triple D Daniel Dynamite Dubois knocked out Oleksander Usoyk
Fuck Usyk.
hate sparring against guys who are like 6'1 or 6'2what's the point, I would NEVER have an amateur fight against them, I'm 5'7 and 147 lbs
>>142578880is sebastien fundora like 6'4 140lbs?
>>142578794THE kneelbwah who went down to jabs?
>>142579054oh wtf lol, 6'6 and 155 for fightswho knows at what weight he walks around
>>142578503>It’s time to stop replying to him or even acknowledging him. Just let him stew in his misery, aloneThe truth is that he's never alone when he has multiple VPNs
At the end of the day, differences of opinion aside, we can all agree that TGK (Tyson Fury) is the greatest boxer to have ever laced a pair of gloves and his stunning wife Paris is a loving and fertile mother, and that Usyk is a draft dodging little rabbit dosser who is in an arranged marriage courtesy of the local mafia.
Uysk is detestable. Hopefully after he gets retired by Fury in december that will be the last we see of the prick.
Usyk is property
>>142579427>>142579446This is the /box/ consensus
Devin Haney is an incel
>>142580190Worse than that, his father (Bill Haney) is a Cus D'Amato iykwim, a Cassius Clay, he Mike Tysons the young. Imagine these bums have those four as their GOATs.
>>142577462Esock pibull cruz
>>142580274It's no wonder the yanks here resort to living vicariously through little Japanese men.
>>142580455A dreadful display.
Shouldnt there have been a mike tyson fight?
>>142580685He ducked Jake Paul, much like he ducked Big John.
>>142580738For the best really, Big John would have ended up with a GBH charge for teaching the ugly little dosser some manners.
Were lucky to live in the Zhilei Zhang era
>tfw Turki tells you Usyk is making more than you in the rematch as he takes a shit on Frank's chest
Shakur and Tank both beat Loma and easily
>>142581138>tf>tpLike clockwork
>>142581444Trips confirm what we already knew
>>142578503That's his whole purpose in life
>>142582075Little rabits are dangerous, flippin heck!
I highly doubt Fury will learn from his mistakes. He still thinks he won the fight. Sad old man will still be in his corner, still won't train. Still will get piss drunk
Shakur thinks top rank paid those guys to leave during his fight lmfao
>>142582846why do they do this gay shit?
>>142579273He says he only cuts a couple pounds
*realizes actions have consequences*
>bradley: "those conceicao/foster judges must have been inexperienced!">literally thousands of pro fights between the judges
>>142583218Shakur's mental elf is at steak
>>142583237turki asserting his dominance
>>142583477bradley is pure shit bro
>>142583043he just needs to rough up usyk bro
TGK Tyson Fury. That's the post. That's the man.
Fury won and wins the rematch
>>142589068Excellent post.>>142591480Accurate assessment.
loma won against salido
>>142586773Yes but please dont copy the annoying /f1/ baiting style
>>142593245>burger knows about the annoying>xxx is pure shit broeh, anyway I only made that post because I wanted to bump the thread
>>142594248Leave that to the professionals, namely the Tyson Fury Appreciation Society. I've picked this up off page 9 many times, to no thanks from the hoi pollo but heavy is the head that wears the crown.
>>142522276Idk
>>142583411Isn't he in rehab?
>>142583411>go /pol/, go broke
>>142583237It used to be normal in western society before homosexuality became more open/widespread, then men in London looked around and said "fellas, it IS homosexual to hold hands with your bros".No (public) homosexuality in Arab countries so that social development didn't happen there.Same reason why Arabian men still kiss each other on the hands/cheeks.
so im looking into victor conte and holy shit ryan might actually be innocent
>>142596854lil r pls
>>142597056https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joY9VhsHxcE
>>142597056Haney lost.
Usyk and Haney: two protected frauds.
Shakur is fucking steaming on Twitter again
The boxer Shakira xson formerly known as twitterson
>>142597717Fury literally tested positive for peds
>>142599820Errr....umm...sausage! Middleweight! Rabbit!
>>142598612another story loss for mike coppinger
How do you say it's over in chicanx?
>>142601872él la jodió!
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