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>Patty Cuckitini
wions
>>142937748>>142937771/nfl/ agrees that Mahomes was better at age 28.
Im a consumer, im an npc but i need one last brady season. His marriage or whats left of it is already beyond repair just come back and play until youre washed beyond help
>>142937819Still waiting on you to answer why we should care.
>posting a retired QBsad
>>142937859Ahhh. Just let the child have his gimmick
Just copped.You like?
>>142937859If he's starting out this good that means he's going to end really good.
>>142937918>buying licensed NFL merchandiseshiggy
>>142937933Nothing wrong with repping your team
>>142937920
>>142937887The Patriots fans have become the new Cowboys. They're living off past success and refuse to accept the fact that they're irrelevant.
my packers
suck lol
>>142937859>Still waiting on you to answer why we should care.Are you gaslighting or are you this autistic. If Caleb Williams wins 5 owls in a row are you going to be saying "why should we care". The more success a QB has early matters since there's a finite amount of time they can play.
>>142937980haha goteeeeeem
>>142937984Move to Alaska or something >>142937992>If Caleb Williams wins 5 owls in a row are you going to be saying "why should we care"I like Caleb and think the Bears will be good with him but that's like 1 for 1 an argument that Nick Wright would make lol. Cool down with the hype.
Gayleb is going to be the most atomic bust since manziel
>>142937992if caleb williams wins 5 owls in a row he would have made history that people actually care about. no one cares about who has the most touchdowns *by age 28
>>142937980damn lol>>142937984yeah that's climate change for ya>>142937992> If Caleb Williams wins 5 owls in a row why are we posting things that will literally never happen?
>>142937748Everyone on my street knows who this is
>>142938039Mahomes is the only player with 3 superbowl MVPs at age 28. Is the only player with 3 rings and 2 MVPs. That is history people care about.
>>142938085>at age 28no one cares.
>>142937984Move to a temperate climate zone retardIt was kinda chilly when I went out for my morning smoke at around 7
there's nothing you can say or do to convince me the lions aren't winning it all this year
>>142938039But that's total fantasy since that nigga is winning 0 owlsMeanwhile The Mutt is almost guaranteed to go down as the best or 2nd best QB in NFL history with Brady
>>142937920Not necessarily, but besides that I'm asking why him having a better start than Brady matters.
>>142938161they're not getting past the Packers, 49ers, or Chiefs.
>>142937992>Are you gaslighting or are you this autisticI don't think you know what either of those words mean >If Caleb Williams wins 5 owls in a row are you going to be saying "why should we careIm not asking why we should care about Mahomes Owls, I'm asking why it matters that his start was better than Bradys. You post that chart every thread but refuse to answer why.
>>142938085It's the rings and MVPs people will remember. Nobody will care that he did it by a certain age.
>>142937957Support your local club
>>142938169the thing that gets me is no one is arguing mahomes isn't already top 5 all time. this insecure motherfucker just can't let the accolades speak for themselves and enjoy waching an alltime great play on his favorite team, he has to set arbitrary qualifiers in an attempt to downplay brady's career for some reason.
>>142937984It's the opposite, actually. The S*uth is just a shithole bro.
>>142938169>that nigga is winning 0 owlsI'm sure you said the same thing about "The Mutt" and have now resigned yourself to licking his boots.
he fell off
>>142938316>joe kitna
>>142938255He's not a football fan, he's a nerd that gets turned on by numbers. He already admitted to jacking off to an abacus and his comprehension of the game amounts to the same as a calculator. Bradyfags were annoying but at least it was clear they understood the game and what makes him special. The Mahomes schizo literally can't put into his own words why Mahomes is unique.
Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old Mahomes Brady 7 > 3 28 years old
>signing Reddick without negotiating a new contract firstWhat the fuck were the Jets thinking?
>>142938161I don't think they would beat the Eagles if they have to face them in the playoffs
Someone needs to tell chris collinsworth too much DMT isn't good for a man
>>142938465>no hendricksonshit list
>>142938465>le run real fast in a straight line manParsons is so overrated. He's absolutely useless if you make him have to think even a little bit.
>>142938288Mahomes came to a team that was already relatively successful that had won the division 3 years in a row before he startedPlus they're not owned and manage by 100 year olds and retards
>>142938473He's lost all grip on reality
>>142938465Garrett's not even the most important player on his defense. A one trick pony that demolishes shitters and goes to sleep when it matters
>>142938465>Aiden Hutchinson >Above Josh (Hines) Allen
If you are a Browns fan, seek assistance.
>>142937984fatty
>>142937748
So...
If you are an eagles fan, seek this bussy.
>>142937748>Darryl Worleyholy fuck I'm mad just seeing that name
>>142938483Caleb is literally joining the best possible situation for a 1st overall pick in history.
>>142939255>best possible situationkek
>>142939063>Cheated lied and scammed his way to more rings than any franchises entire history Thats my mf goat. Unless they scrub the history books all you can do is seethe like a little bitch.
>>142939259Yes? I don't speak seethe either so idk what that webbum is supposed to prove.
>>142939259It's okay to be a Caleb fan. He's a lot cooler than Mahomes and has been a walking meme so far. No one in /nfl/ will judge you when you start posting your painted nails by week 5.
>>142939293You are SO fucking mad right now. 7>3.
>>142938316LMAOOOOOO
>>142939239that man is going to set an NFL record for being waived and re-signed
>>142939308>i don't seethe>as he seetheskwab
My Rammies :)
>>142939340This is a man in an identity crisis
>>142939389Anyone else here able to translate?
>>142939137Damn, I wonder how many playoff games the Broncos won that season.
>>142939315I meant that unironically. Idk why so many sports fans are such pearl clutchers about cheating. The Pats scandals are laughably bs, but even if they were legit it would just make me love them even more.
>>142939369https://youtu.be/P5KW3Xa_58o he has a long way to go...
>>142939595o shit
>>142939523He's calling you a crybaby bitch like Gayleb
Top 100 songs when the Dolphons won their last playoff game.https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2000-12-30/If you wanted a new video game console your choices were the PS2 and Sega Dreamcast. You could visit the twin towers in New York city and Bill Clinton would still be president for a few more weeks.
Is Xavier Worthy a bust?-1st day of mini camp he gets a hamstring injury-1st day of training camp gets a hand injury-1st week of training camp is benched for an undisclosed illness.
>>142939558I dunno and don't care, swing and a miss again muttlover
>>142939879>b-b-b-b-b-but the new tyreek for the mutt and his globohomo "football" team!!!
>>142937805.....soul....
>>142939879Chiefs can't draft recievers, the only reason Tyreek worked out is that he was a running back.
>>142939558>losing to a team that missed the playoffsKek lol
>>142939975The Chefs don't need WRs when the mutt gets DPI or "roughing" the passer when ever he throws a pick or overthrows his receiver.
>>142940030Yeah, exactly.
lol wut
>>142939794A few more weeks you say?Like two more weeks?
>>142939718Ah
>>142940062>in a deal blah blah blahWhat's with this heeb and putting this at the end of his tweets now?
>>142940081Polishing the agents' knobs is how he gets leaks later
>>142938483Chiefs had 1 playoff win since 1994. Winning the AFCW is like being the tallest hobit in the Shire.
ngl getting ass raped by a 43 year old brady in the superbowl while the league is trying to push you as the next best thing is embarassing..
>>142940067>21 days is like 2 weeks
>>142940106I didn't know Brady played defense
>>142940106Huh?
imagine waving your hands, after every negative play, in disbelief at the reffies being your true legacy.
>>142937918who's your local footy club brit bro?
>>142940123neither does eli manning but you faggots made this narrative and now you have to live with it forever
>>142940097Nuh uhWe have Sushi Sean and off brand Harbaugh in the division now
>camp starting>Justin Simmons still unsignedWhere is he going? And also should I stop caring since clearly teams do not?
>>142938316Why is hair so powerful in making you look more handsome?
>>142937933To be fair it looks like he bought it from a gas station or out of someone's trunk
>>142940167you mean skidmark shawn and spaziod jim?
>>142940167>>142940223The west can't meme
>>142940209The way his face looks he might be on pain killers
>>142940209Is he wearing lipstick? Zesty
>>142940268>fashion show model wears makeupwhoa
>>142940268>fashin show model is a faggotwhoa
That's my quarterback.
>>142940332Is this the "I could suck a mean dick right about now" poster?
This just says that the gym means nothing when you're already blessed with great genetics
>>142940209My smooth little boy
>>142940383>geneticsThe back guy is the only one on your pic that isn't trash.
>>142940383>ack jonesWhy is he in this image?
If the 49ers make it back to the owl in 2024 then Shanahan has been to 4 owls in the last 8 years with 3 journeymen QBs on 2 different teams. Reid and Belichick weren't doing stuff like this before they got their hall of fame QBs. Screenshot this post, in 20 years from now he's going to be in GOAT conversations.
>>142940434josh allen is great though
>>142940443Reid lost a superbowl before Mahomes, he didn't lose multiple though.
>>142937992>If Caleb Williams wins 5 owls in a row are you going to be saying "why should we care".But he hasn't, nor has Mahomes. Statistically there's numemrous modern QB's who are better than Brady over the first five seasons, because it was a miserable league for passers in the early 2000's. No one thinks Brady at 44 was better than he was at 34 or 24, yet statistically he was.
>>142940456Yeah that's why I said he wasn't trash.
>>142940383Mahomes is a victim of his own success. He's never experienced the shame of missing the playoffs or having a bad season so he can show up looking like shit and still dominate the league. We might never see him in his prime since he has no motivation to go into try hard mode like Brady did after he missed the playoffs in his 3rd season.
>>142940443Nah. They had their best chance last year and they blew it. Now they're losing Aiyuk and McCaffrey is 28. (It's over).
>>142940383When you're 6'5 they let you do it
>>142940470Making it to an owl with journeymen QBs like Jimmy G is an accomplishment. Owl appearances should be a plus on someone's resume regardless if they win it. Why do people think losing early (or missing) playoffs is more valuable than making it to the owl.
>>142940489>We might never see him in his primeStatistically he's been getting worse almost every season. It might be good for his success, as it was with Brady, as KC is focusing more on defense and he doesn't have the same offensive weapons, but it's not good for his stats.
>>142940536>Statistically he's been getting worse almost every seasonHis 2022 season is arguably the best season we've ever seen from a QB.
>>142940443>loses them all
If Nick Foles is so great, why has he never started more than 11 games in a season despite having only two injuries that cost him significant time?Why was he traded to the Rams for Sam “Fucking” Bradford?Why was he benched by the Rams in favor of Case “Fucking” Keenum?Why was he just a back up in KC to Alex “Fucking” Smith?Why was he benched in favor of Wentz after he won the superb owl?Why were the Jags the only team willing to make him their starting QB?https://www.google.com/amp/s/jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/07/nick-foles-market-continues-to-dry-up-which-is-why-the-jags-shouldnt-overpay-him/amp/https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/free-agency-nick-foles-jaguars-contract/ampWhy was he 0-4 as a starter for the Jags? And why have the Jags been outscored by a total of 40-117 when Foles has been in the game?Why did he lose to the Titans 20-42 scoring only 3 points until the Jags were down 3-35 late in the third quarter while Minshew beat the Titans 20-7 scoring 14 points in the first?Why did he lose to the Colts 13-33 when Minshew beat them 38-20?Why did he personally turn the ball over 3 times and lead the offense to 3 consecutive 3 and outs resulting in ZERO points against the 31st ranked scoring defense and was benched for a sixth round rookie?Why was he benched after three blowout losses for the rest of the season?Why was a sixth round rookie able to go 6-6 as a starter for the same team?Why was he dumped by the Jags for a fourth round pick?Why did he lose the training camp competition Mitch "Fucking" Trubisky?Why did he later lose his starting job to Mitch "Fucking" Trubisky?Why did the Bears sign Andy "Fucking" Dalton to start over him?Why was he a third string quarterback for a pathetic Bears team?Why is /nfl/, the fags that worshiped Alex Smith and called people racist for saying Justin Fields sucked, right about Foles and everyone else is wrong?
>>142940526The problem is looking like you have the most talented team and then blowing it multiple times on the biggest stage. Obviously if he ends up winning 2-3 Owls the narrative will completely change, but right now he has the reputation of a guy who does everything right until the big game and then blows it spectacularly.
>>142938161Fatherless behavior
>>142940557Not in terms of stats, no. He was lower in every category compared to his rookie year. An extra game made some of his totals look deceptively larger than they were when measured per game.
>>142940489>and still dominate the leaguehmm
>>142938222>they're not getting past the PackersNo need. The packturds will take care of themselves.
>>142940383their arms are pretty jacked still
>>142940590Those are mostly arm punts. Do better webm schizo.
What did he meme by this?
>>142940578The best thing you can do is let them whore it out and get it out of their systems by their 25th birthday
>>142940625>the muttlover is SEEEEEEEEEEEETHING over webms stillkwab
>>142940567>Why did he lose the training camp competition Mitch "Fucking" Trubisky?He got Mitchie'd>Why did he later lose his starting job to Mitch "Fucking" Trubisky?He got Mitchie'd>Why did the Bears sign Andy "Fucking" Dalton to start over him?He got Mitchie'd>Why was he a third string quarterback for a pathetic Bears team?He got Mitchie'd
>>142940617This is one of those things that reveals something about the poster they didn't know to keep hidden
>>142940443>2-2 in conference championship games>0-2 in super bowlsDon't care lol
>>142940526When you can replace Jimmy Gabagool with literally any mid tier QB that's not really an accomplishment
>>142940690that scene had nothing to do with varsity athlete, you brainlet.
>>142940633He knows
>Jags extend Tyson CampbellI know /sp/ doesn't actually watch football outside of maybe their favorite team but this is all the news we have todayAnyway this is confusing considering Campbell is arguably the worst ball tracker I've ever seen at DB
>>142940633Who fucking cares?
>>142940748DB is a pretty shallow position right now
>>142940182Ravens just signed Eddie Jackson over him, it's clearly a money issue he would rather wait and see if teams meet his number next offseason
>>142940748>Jags extend someone who is not good at what they do.Unheard of
>>142940708Since you're a finocch you'd probably know
>>142940748And now he's the 6th highest paid CB in the league per year. More guaranteed money than the contract AJ Brown just signed. What are they thinking lol
>>142940443Matt Ryan won an MVP and only played on 2 teams.
>>142940748Anyone who thinks Campbell isn't a good player is a retard but I do agree it was an overpay>Campbell is arguably the worst ball tracker I've ever seen at DBThis is probably his only issue. Otherwise he's easily top 5 in every aspect of playing corner. But that glaring issue makes him look awful at times
>>142940792Why not just sign a one-year deal with a contender right now then? He could make a good chunk of money and get a chance at a ring.
>>142940800>t. pale skinned ginger who thinks watching the sopranos makes him an honorary italian
>>142940806gotta maintain the cap floor somehow...
>>142940793bortles is the second best QB in jags history
>>142940822Not worth the injury risk. He probably only gets one big bite at the FA apple.
>>142940836t. zoomer
>>142940836Yeah, Brunell, Bortles, Minshew, the list goes on.
>>142940806Those paki retards think they can elevate a player's brand by making him highly paid. It also makes the paki retards not look as cheap as they actually are.Thanks for the cool 1 Billy, Duval.
>>142940852bortles never got shot by his girl, though
>>142940875Lmfao different urban qb
i am excited to watch some nfl football this fall
>>142940875lol
>>142940836>>142940852>>142940853
KANGZBROZ I DONT FEEL SO GOOD
>>142940689Only the Chiefs have had more success than the 49ers in the last couple of years.
>>142940901sorry I use the eye test not your cringe analytics
>>142940885yeah recalled that info after I hit post. whatever.
>>142940905Oh yeah they're shit this year
>>142940901>most yd/game>highest TD%>lowest int%>highest adjusted yd/attempt>2nd highest comp%Minshew clears the rest easily
>>142940905oh, no, another season with a top 10 pick in a year where expectations should be an all time low. Aww man, what am I gonna do all winter now the mn fentanyl floyd worshippers are gonna suck?
>>142940914Objectively not true.
are the raiders going to unironically start O'Connell over Minshew? O'Connell looked like absolute shit last season
>>142940784all you have to do is look at 2020 to see that. passing went through the roof because corner play dropped off the hardest. plus im sure there's a jacksonville tax there too
>>142940901Garrard would've thrown for 5000 yards every season if he had DJ Chark at receiverInstead he had Dennis Northcutt, Matt Jones, Mike Sims-Walker, the corpse of Torry Holt
DJ Chark couldnt hold Dennis northcutts jock, glad summers almost over
>>142941031MJD and his thicc thigh'd running definitely cut into it as well.
>>142940982Just depends on what kind of white trash they want to appeal to this year
>>142940826OOOOOOH!Who pissed in your spaghetti, Mario?
>>142940952>2020 as half your statsminshew had a 96 qb rating and it was 16th in the NFL that year
>>142941058Northcutt was shit and Garrard almost beat the 16-0 Patriots with him and Matt Jones (they both dropped wide open touchdown passes, Pats won by 11)
>>142940980No other team has been to two superbowls and are consistently contenders in the conference championship game. Bucs were one and done. Patriots teams is a dead and irrelevant franchise. It's really just the Chiefs and 49ers and maybe throw in the Packers and Eagles for their occasional playoff success.
>>142941084>2020 as half your statswhy not? the mutt-cock suckers use it all of the time to prop up mutthomes' numbers.
>>142941094chark is shit also
>>142941100>zero owl wins to show for itI see a total of 6 teams with more success in that image
>>142941145Says a bitch-made faggot that has never set foot on the field.
>>142937748>finger turning purple
>>142941122Chark was a Pro Bowler in Jacksonville>p-pro bowls mean nothing!He had 1000 yards and 8 TDs in 16 games that's pretty good
>>142941187Pedestrian is what it is
>>142941159I'm not saying making it to the conference championship game isn't success, you can be happy about it. But I would take 1 super bowl win over 4 conference championship appearances every day of the week and I'm sure every NFL player would too.
>>142941187hes the number 3 option on a team with 0 wide receivers. Hes not good
>demoted to rb cause he can't catchHumiliation ritual continues
>>142941227imagine the fumbles
>>142941207Yeah, but he's better than Dennis Northcutt>>142941203Calvin Ridley (another Jags receiver) wouldn't have passed those numbers without an extra game and he just got $90 million
>>142941236Dennis northcutt played in a league where defense was allowed
dj chark wins the award for most decorated player ive never heard of. the absolute state of the jaguars. I thought it was some nickname for another dude
>>142941227harder to line up offsides when you're in the backfield, i suppose. At least the mutt won't have to cry like a toddler about it ever again. He'll have to find something new to bitch about to the reffies, though.
In the majestic throne room of a football kingdom, Patrick Mahomes sat upon a throne adorned with twenty Super Bowl rings, a crown of unparalleled achievement upon his head. Commissioner Roger Goodell stood beside him, listing Tom Brady's alleged crimes with chilling precision.Tom Brady, once a revered quarterback, knelt before Mahomes in desperation. "Your Majesty, I beg for mercy. Let me serve you."Mahomes regarded him coldly, then nodded to signify acceptance. Suddenly, honey drenched Tom Brady, immobilizing him. A trap door opened beneath him, plunging him into a pit teeming with vicious bears.Hours later, a battered Brady crawled from the pit, his spirit broken. Mahomes met him with a stoic gaze. "You have been judged," he said quietly, offering no sympathy.Alone and haunted by defeat, Brady knew he could never redeem himself in the eyes of the unforgiving king who ruled the football realm with unyielding authority.
>>142941234Lol. Then they'll try him at DB, where he'll miss an INT and bounce it right to the receiver.
Would you?
>>142941205Fans would rather their team be relevant. The rest of the teams in that image won one superbowl and became irrelevant franchises. It's really only been the 49ers and Chiefs that are consistently making deep postseason runs.
>>142941269Hell yeah I would.
>>142941267Just imagine the feast of logs after the event
*throws tua defenda*
>>142941227This is a good decision. He's actually useful once he actually gets the ball in his hand.
Jameis Winston is going to lead the browns to the superbowl
>>142940980If he literally meant couple, as in two years, then he's right.>>142941274So you think Bills fans would rather have those four SB losses instead of just one trip to the SB and a win?
>>142941274Who's the "bitch-made faggot that has never set foot on the field" now?
>>142940964George Floyd was a literal hero, anon…
>>142941324You, the retard that can't tell the difference between two different people replying to your posts.
BOLT UP BROCHACHOS!
>>142941227Maybe if he puts on some weight but I'm skeptical
>>142941338Cope, you're still wrong
>>142941324It could possibly be an interesting debate. Like, would you rather the team you root for win 1 SB, and then have a decade never even finishing above .500, or would you rather them make the playoffs for a decade ,including a few SBs, but never win the championship? Knee jerk reaction for me says I'd take the SB, but then a decade of shit would be tough to bear. OTOH, year after year of coming up short would wear on me too.
>>142941359^Retard
>>142941311him and cooper will have a melty at mile high and that'll end their season, they'll be like 6-7 going in and Winston will finally have a full blown diaper doodoo game while watson watches in a kewl lamborghini jacket utterly apathetic
Hey, 2074 anon here, just invented a time machine and came back to pick the winning lotto number while I'm young again but figured I'd stop by here to tell /nfl/ that the Owl will be Bears vs Chiefs this year. And no, I'm not telling who wins.
>>142941361Roughly, would you rather be the 2000-2010 Eagles or Giants?
>>142941361It's an interesting debate, but>win 1 SB, and then have a decade never even finishing above .500does not apply to any of the teams that won owls recently
>>142941399>Bears vs Chiefssweet jesus, the field will flood with the tears of both team's QBs crying that they didn't get the result they wanted on each play.
>>142941399damn another chiefs win. The nfl is so boring
>>142937748Sometimes the winners are the bad guys. Sometimes the real winners don't win. Case and point: Super Bowl 58 and presidential election 2020
>>142941283In a fantastical realm, an anonymous man was invited to a grand feast amidst towering forests, hosted by legendary quarterbacks like Joe Montana and Tom Brady. At the feast, logs of all kinds were displayed, each representing a quarterback's essence.Curiosity led the anonymous man to Patrick Mahomes' logs, which shimmered with an irresistible allure. He indulged voraciously, savoring the unique flavors until he could eat no more. Unbeknownst to him, Mahomes' logs possessed a potent essence.Hours later, amidst laughter and camaraderie, the anonymous man collapsed, overcome by the logs' overwhelming consumption. As his companions looked on in regret, Joe Montana cautioned, "Beware the logs of Mahomes, for their essence is as powerful as his arm."Thus, the feast became a cautionary tale of indulgence and consequence in the realm of legendary football gatherings.
>>142941361Winning the Super Bowl is for sloppers. The real patrician sticks with the team that was built the best.
>>142941426oh well, now be a good goy and go buy the mutthomes and kesley jerseys and tay-tay's new album, sponsored by state farm!
>>142941451>The bussy posting Brady dick rider anon is obsessed with men's anuses.Why are Patriots fans like this.
>>142941459Taylor swift and State Farm have done more for winning than the entire Shanahan family.
>>142941488good goy
back 2 goonin'
>>142941506based
>>142941506Please stay hydrated
caleb williams is so fucking overhyped its insane
>>142938316skinhead arc is when it starts being on
It's that time of year again, the first one is up>https://defector.com/why-your-team-sucks-2024-carolina-panthers
>>142941406Not a bad comparison. The Giants messed it up a bit by winning two in five seasons, and they did have some good seasons sandwiched in there. Would definitely take that over the Eagles, though they did eventually reward their fans with an Owl. The Bills are the biggest heart break I can think of, no way I'd want what they went through four straight seasons.>>142941416>does not apply to any of the teams that won owls recentlyRight, I was just kind of making my own hypothetical.>>142941457Kek.
>>142941595Like I need to listen to some faggot about why the Panthers suck
I've just noticed that I talk to myself, as in genuinely have hours longs talks out loud where I assume the roles of multiple people. No wonder my coworkers are scared of me.
>>142941574Seems like the bussy hype at least for this season is reasonable. Nobody is bussy expecting him to be a superstar right away.
>>142941701Yeah they are
Joe Burrow is a faggot.
>>142941804nah you are
>>142941804You would not say that to his face.
Joe Bussy
>>142941866what's with shitcongo and putting a bunch of nonsense on their food and saying "ZOMG GUIZE IT IS CHI-TOWN STYLE GUIZZZE!!!!"
>>142941852nta but I probably would in the hopes he'd punch me so I could sue him for a million bucks or so
>>142941866How about just a fucking regular hotdog
>>142941866I'll take a Coney or a Memphis please
>>142941227This man, along with Justin Reid, fucking win the Chiefs superbowl 57. It's insane how persecuted he has become because Mahomes threw a couple bad passes that nobody could catch and a phantom call.
>>142941866My Doyer dogs :)
>>142941866I love Chicago dogs, but without the mustard. I don't like mustard.
>>142941866Chile, Guatemala, and Argentina sound awesome
>>1429418661 of each please
>>142941870In the days before replay no one would ever think that's a penalty
This bills wr might be dumber than toney
>>142941997Who?
>>142942005Me =)
>>142940809Yeah, it’s a stretch to call Matt Ryan a journeyman. He’s one SB collapse away from being a hofer. The 2016 season is one of the best statistical seasons any quarterback has ever put up. He’s hall of very good. People judge him harshly because he dropped off after that year and played a couple more years too long, so he’s often remembered only for that one game and for his slubbish play on the Colts.
>>142941990>days before replay 1965?
>>142942019I think you know what I meant
Is Blue Eyes White Dragon the worst Super Bowl MVP?
>>142941866Who the fuck puts onions on a hot dog?Never seen this once in my life
>>142942043Aaron Donald should have been the MVP for LVI.
>>142942039That grabbing the jersey has been textbook dpi since the beginning?
>>142942073except when jalen ramsay does it
>>142942043No, he had one of if not the best super bowl performances by a QB of all time
>>142942082Hey I don't have a horse in that fight
>>142942043Going back as far as 2000 because I'm too lazy to go farther, here are the ones that stand out to me:>Kupp: 8/10, 92 yds, 2 TDs>Eli Manning ('07-'08): 19/34, 255yds, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 87.3 rating>Peyton Manning: 25/38, 247yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 81.8 rating>Brady ('01-'02): 16/27, 145yds, 1 TD, 86.2 rating>Ray Lewis: 4 passes defended, 5 tackles (3 solo)
>>142942221I meant in overall career
>>142942221>Brady ('01-'02): 16/27, 145yds, 1 TD, 86.2 ratingGod I hate that spoonfed babied cunt
>>142942293>spoonfed babied cuntbut enough about mutthomes
>>142942327Boffem are
>>142942335Is this a loss edit?
>>142942266Well then I'd probably say Malcolm Smith, Santonio Holmes, Deion Branch, and Dexter Jackson all were arguably worse than Foles career-wise. Maybe Flacco, who was better on volume but a worse QB. Maybe Kupp too honestly. He's only had one elite season, at a much easier to replace position than QB.
Why did the NFL let the mutt change his helmet between plays without calling a timeout. Also, why didn't the mutt have to leave the game to get a concussion check in this VERY anti-concussion professional football league after he took a direct hit to his head during a pivotal drive in a playoff football game?
Name a more JUST player last year, I don't think you can.
>>142942397Not to mention he lowered his helmet before contact, not that I would expect it to be called.
>>142942397
>>142942457good little tay-tay fan
>>142942423Any redskins players under dan snyder
>>142942423dalvin cook.
>>142942465I'm not a Chiefs fan or a Swift fan, I just don't care
>>142942483cook was clearly about to hit a wall, not that mattison was any better, but the vikings were right to let cook walk instead of giving him a 4-year deal.
>>142942397reffies is scared of mahomeboy
>>142942506he said while slowly taking off his kelsey jersey.
What happens in the alternate universe where the Panthers take Stroud and the Texans take Young?
>>142942525>scared of this twink mutt screaming at youYikes.
>>142942528Stroud looks like he needs another year and Young looks like the franchise QB
>>142941866Denver and Georgia dogs clear
>>142940557>His 2022 season is arguably the best season we've ever seen from a QB.It's not even Top 4. Marino '84, Manning '04, Brady '07, and Mahomes '18 are all better clearly
>>142942546How is Georgia not the worst?
>>142942372>>142942376Damn the chiefs are the dirtiest team in the league
What player on your team gets injured in training camp?
>>142942550Good list, I agree.
>>142942537Twinks aren't 6'3" 230 bro. Mahomes would heem the shit out of you.
Need it?
>>142942597They meant to say Guess who's black
>>142942397REEEEEEE
>>142941866Amsterdam sounds fucking god tier
>>142941866>swedenWft but still would
>>142941866>loaded potato skin hot dogYes
>>142942597Oh god what's wrong with his back?
>>142940557>>142942550
>>142942646Just how fucking good was milt plum
>>142942688Head and shoulders above the rest of the league that year, but pretty much entirely because he only threw 5 ints.
>>142941804
>>142942528Jags make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
>>142941268The old cliche, "if they could catch they wouldn't be playing defenese"
>>142942789You now remember charles woodson and deion sanders playing WR, and edelman playing DB
>>142942789Trevon Diggs should switch back to WR, all he can do is catch
Carolina can't be worse than last year r-right?
>>142943008Yes, would you like to experience it?
>>142943027I honestly don't see how the offense could be any worse
>>142943008Just one more tank bro....just one more
>>142943008>>142943027>>142943084Did you guys fire your GM? Might be in for some tough years if that tard is still in charge of drafting
>>142943166YeahFitterrer got replaced by Dan Morgan
>Evan Neal on PUPIs it safe to say that Neal is an even bigger bust than Ereck Flowers? At least Flowers could get on the field and play so poorly it set the Giants back 40 years as a franchise.
>>142943166Height matters y’all
>>142943008>>142943084>>142943166>trading up for a midget that can’t even see over the oline
>>142943209When he had time last year he looked pretty goodHe just never had any time cause of a tissue paper OLIf his OL isn't straight garbage this year we'll be able to see if he's really a bum or not
>>142943203Even 3" can make a differenceAsk my wife
>>142943008And with the 1st pick of the 2025 draft, the Carolina Panthers choose........
Post a hot take. I'll start. Brady ring chasing on the Bucs sullied his legacy.
Post a hot bussy
>>142943330Running out the clock and kicking a FG to win a game is cowardly and should have an asterisk next to it.
run out this bussy
>>142943399Should have managed your time outs better, chud
GMFB comes back next monday lads :)
>>142943330The Pats' various cheating scandals matter. Why? Because it gave them a marginal advantage in a game of inches. The difference between a 145-yard performance earning Brady ridicule versus earning him a SBMVP trophy.
>>142943514Once some of the coaching staff retire they're going to start leaking what really happened in the Patriots meeting rooms. The league only knows of the cheating they found.
>>142943514can you tell us what advantage the patriots gained from them?
>>142943485Can't wait to be lectured about how Caleb Williams being gay is A OK by this faggot
>>142943531his girlfriend is 100x hotter than any woman you've ever sniffed.
>>142943399But if you don't do this, you're universally branded a dumbass.
>>142943547
>>142943547She is cute
>>142943564me on the right
>>142943530If it didn't help them they wouldn't have done it. The very fact it did is enough, again, in a game of inches (or Vinatieri kicks)
>>142943547i doubt it
>>142943564>sheThose shoulders are too wide. Wonder how big >her cock is.
>>142937748Hard Knocks is so fucking boring this year. Can the Giants be anymore mediocre? The only interesting thing about this latest season is that it shows Saquon Barkley was an asshole
>>142942735>johnny poonitas
>>142943641Wrong
>>142942735>>142943647Unitas with those Namath stats
>>142943570what did they do? deflate balls? not only did multiple teams have balls that were more deflated, the patriots scored more in the second half with the re-inflated balls.spying? when they videotaped the fucking eventual 4-12 jets in week 1? yeah sorry bitch none of that mattered, goodell simply appeased the public by punishing them far harsher than they ever should have been
>>142943330Bryce Young will be elite
CHRISTIAN DARRISAW EXTENDED
>>142943703>11 TD>10 INT>73 Passer RatingQBs typically do not recover from this start. Only Josh Allen rebounded from such a shitty start.
>>142943578Her broad and pronounced shoulders indicate physical fitness, that is hot.
>>142940901God, they don't make them like Brunell anymore
Serious question why would someone be considered gay or bi if they've only fucked a tranny 3 times in their life compared to the hundreds and thousands of times they've fucked a girl or fapped to girls.
>>142943867How BOUT them Cowboys!
>>142943867Btw, I'm a Patriots fan if anyone was wondering.
>>142943766Anon Peyton Manning was absolutely abysmal his first yearHis passer rating was 71.2 and he had 28 ints
>>142943578You people are sick
i can't wait for football bros... it's so close
>>142944061nasty skank
>>142941574Kek maybe by like 10% of people. Even Bears fans are being cautiously optimistic. There's more people who hate Caleb for non football related reasons than people who love him because of his abilities as a player.
Nice emmanuel ogbah is back
>>142944061Women are fucking disgusting, somebody tell this bitch to go take a shower and wipe that gunk off of her chair.
>>142942527>Immediately starts writing a fanfic Tell me how I know you're a Packers fan.
>>142941574Every big sports prospect is overhyped to hell despite the GOAT NFL player being a fucking 6th round pick
>>142944126>>142944158If this isn't proof that homosexuals run the /nfl/ offseason I don't know what is. You guys allowed that homosexual bussy posting anon to post openly, now the general has become a safe place for them. Should have chased him out.
>>142944061Is this a man? Please say yes
>>142944061What is she doing down there? Why's it so gooey? hahaha
>>142942528The Skins have the #1 pick and still take Daniels because they're retarded, the Pats get Caleb, and the Bears trade their entire future for Maye but ruin him.
>>142943330The Cardinals are the team with the most SOVL
>>142942528Panthers go 17-0 and were saved from the mutt
>>142943008>Better Oline, better weapons, better play callerThey'll be better offensively but they wont be able to overcome that ass defense.
>>142944231Last year's defense was actually pretty good until they got gassed from being out there all gameThey lost a few pieces though
>fully cleared for camp on the same day that the Giants put it out publicly that they were trying to draft Drake Maye and get rid of himHe's either going to win another playoff game or he's going to die on the field and there's no in-between.
Your shit team failed to beat the Chiefs when they had no weapons now you stand no chance.The Chiefs will have a top 3 offense AND defense for the first time in the Mahomes era. 17-0 is on the table if Rice doesn't get suspended.
>chiefs>top 3 offenselol enjoy your new WR1
DANIEL JONES JUST FUMBLED THE BALL AGAIN!
>>142943641I prefer seeing the front office retards getting exposed than seeing players in training camp.
so why did the jets trade for a player in a contract dispute and not give him a contract? what did they expect would happen?
>>142944449Lameme's balls are wobbly. Mahomes balls are straight and smooth which makes them easier to grab.
>>142937819>better at everything>loses at home in the AFCCG>gets absolutely BTFO in the owl and scores zero (0) touchdowns
>>142944472#NoHomo
>>142944477>only reached the redzone twicelmaoooooooo
>>142944477Doesn't count because I refuse to acknowledge it.
>>142944477Cite one example of a QB winning a game with 5 starters injured on the oline. It's impossible.
>>142939063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdBP6jDOkWY
>>142944495can you name the 5 starters that were injured?
>>142944477Mahomes has the better logs you chud!
>>142939340>full aryan mode unlockedleague is fucked
>>142944472That’s what she said
>>142938316Is this real?
Also Duke Shelley back in purple
>>142944495
>>142944555smart business desu
>>142944555Wtf is going on
>>142944495only 3 starters were injured. joe burrow made it to the super bowl with 3 backups, and his team was able to find the endzone twice. what's mahomes' excuse?
>>142944555>duke backMy based short king
>>142944573Dak ELITEscott
>>142944518https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/super-bowl-kansas-city-chiefs-offensive-line-patrick-mahomesBut this doesn't tell the full story since there was other injuries that occurred before the owl. They were playing backups of backups. Chiefs oline was open wider than a twink's bussy.
>>142944574Duke was the lone shining star on the Ed Donatell defense. He's a dog, hopefully he gets back to that level under Flores and it wasn't just a weird scheme fit where he was the only one that got it lol
>>142944477>loses at home in the AFCCGHe dominated Brady in this game but the Patriots defense kept Brady alive despite his 3 INTs.
So the Lions are still a meme right?They're going 5-12 again right?The NFC North is still gonna be PACKERSWINLOL right?
>>142944639The lions window is slammed shut. They're still employing aaron glenn at DC and no amount of quality FA signings will change this. They got smacked by any halfway decent team in a historically garbage NFC down year. Goof paycheck will be coming due soon, so realistically this season is their last opportunity.
>>142944061ok, sauce though?
>>142944573>>142944580is it really that time of year again?
>Ricky Pearsall already fucked up his hamstring>Cooper Dejean already fucked up his hamstringGreat white hope bros...
>>142944649They were pretty close to an Owl appearance Defense is a meme nowadays
>>142944555Isn't this the guy who got blocked into the shadow realm by a washed up Kenny Golladay on a run play in the last Vikings playoff game
The math says the Chiefs will go 17-0. Whenever Mahomes had a WR1 they averaged 30 points per game (see pic).The Chiefs defense held teams to 17 points per game.
>rasms
>>142944681It's the same concept as why the eagles made an owl:>daniel jones>no QB 9ers>loseThe lions playoff opponents:>shit rams squad that the lions won by 1 point thanks to refball>baker mayfield led buccaneers >lose in embarrassing fashion once 9ers wake upeagles had a chance, blew it, and haven't been back since. Frankly they've been an embarrassment. The lions nearly got swept by the bears, and late season form packers were in a whole other league over the Lions. They beat nick mullens who threw 4 ints by 6 points./ In-division they're still a joke, and all teams loaded up. Vikings and Lions going to be fighting for 3rd place
>>142937784where did you get this picture of me
>>142937784
>>142944593>https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/super-bowl-kansas-city-chiefs-offensive-line-patrick-mahomes>The only Week 1 starter remaining on the unit is center Austin Reiterthis isn't true. Wylie was also a week 1 starter. Chiefs only had 3 backups in the owl.
How does it make Chiefs fans feel watching Mahomes win an Owl leaning on defense and 1-2 clutch drives late? It was basically their only argument to attempt at devaluing Bradys success.
>>142944808>https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202009100kan.htmretard
>>142944808>Professional sports journalistMeans very little nowadays. For every legit beat guy who's around the team every day you've got 10 more aggregators and literally who hot take artists. Plus content farmers like Dov Kleiman, MLFootball, etc. who misrepresent things for clicks.
>>142944803The Superbowl is just one game of the playoffs, not sure why people focus on it so much. Mahomes isn't known for his owl performances. In 2023 he set the all time record of most consecutive playoff games with no interceptions. Not to mention he's thrown twice as much TDs as Brady in the postseason and has the best passer rating of all time. But yeah, it was cringe seeing him be a game managing defensive baby like Brady in the owl
>Mahomes isn't known for his owl performances>But I WILL relentlessly boast about his 3 rings* and 3 super bowl MVPs* every chance I get*by age 28
>>142944797There's olinemen who were injured during the season. That article probably doesn't cover the full extent of the injuries. The oline situation was a cluster fuck.
>>142944862doesn't matter. you said mahomes had 5 backups playing in the owl. he didn't, he had 3.
The tom brady and patrick mahomes debate is so dumb. alot of people are forgetting that tom brady for all of his career was strictly a pocket passer meanwhile patrick mahomes has the ability to run out of the pocket when no one can get open which can open a wide range of opportunities. brady never had that chance so he had to rely on his mind to break defenses. both are great in their own way but comparing the two is just so fucking dumb.
>>142944589I wish this was a playoff game so much. It would've gone down in history and surpassed every other stupid play, even the Romo fumbled snap.
>>142944674>Cooper Dejean already fucked up his hamstringfor fucks sake
>>142944614Guess I'm just gonna have to post this in every thread until you zoomers learn, but the Patriots dominated, that game>twice as many first downs (36 to 18)>more passing yards>more attempts>more completions>200+ more total yards>more than 3 times as many 3rd down conversions (13 to 4)>2 4th down conversions>a TWENTY-THREE MINUTE time of possession advantageThe better team (with the better qb) won. Cope, seethe, dilate
>>142944873Brady could scramble. It's just that pre-2018 defenders could still tackle and if you wanted to run out of the pocket, you had to pay the price.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq5EBUDiHLs
>cowboys poster spamming>brady mahomes spam>it's le over posters >training camp newsoh yea, we're getting closer bros
>>142944797https://www.reddit.com/r/NFLNoobs/comments/1aw24ni/why_did_the_chiefs_get_absolutely_hammered_in/?rdt=65449
>>142944803Thats what Eli Manning did lmaoAnd people say Mahomes is better than Brady LolLmao
>>142944832>why do people focus on the most important game of the seasonI wonder anonerino
>>142944573
>>142944589I will always reply with this webm, because it makes me so happy
>>142944926I've already proven to you that two of the week 1 starters also started in the owl.
Lol I still can't get over how the Chiefs won last year and shit every over fan base up then and there. Mahomes won with his WR1 being a literal second round rookie and WR2/3 unable to find a roster spot elsewhere when they leave KC (sky moore and kadarius toney)And the league just let Hollywood brown fall in their lap for the 3peat. Unironically who the fuck can stop them. The answer really is nobody.
>>142944894This. If Mahomes had to play in the early Brady era he'd either have to radically adjust his playstyle or he'd be limping to an early grave. Comparing any stats in the flag football era to the early 2000's is fucking retarded.
>>142944893>Passer RatingMahomes: 117Brady: 77Winner: Mahomes>Pass TouchdownsMahomes: 3Brady: 1Winner: Mahomes>InterceptionsMahomes: 0Brady: 2 (*technically 3 but refs saved him)Winner: Mahomes>50-50 coin flip in overtime in a game where the defenses couldn't stop the opposing QBMahomes: noBrady: YesWinner: Brady*
>>142944953Last season was the league's chance to beat them. Now they have Hollywood, Xavier, and Rice. A 3-headed monster. Kelce won't be double teamed so he'll also do better.
>>142944956>pointsPatriots: 37Chiefs: 30Winner (in real life, not in your head): Brady
Mahomes' WR1 has always been Kelce.
>>142944974yea but, like, he's NOT a WR so he can't be, like, a WR1 hehehehehehe
>>142944966>Hollywoodbutterfingers>Xavierjohn ross IV>Ricemental midget
>>142944970Still plays football and is relevant to post about in /nfl/: Mahomes Is a retired boomer talking head that hasn't done anything relevant to football in months? Brady. The answer is simple, Brady is off topic and the moderators need to do a better job cleaning up all the off topic discussion about some celeb analyst.
>>142944894>>142944955Brady is a slow moving pocket passer. He's not in the same QB branch as Mahomes which is the branch of scrambling QBs (e.g., Rodgers and Steve Young). Go watch some tape on those guys and you'll learn it is possible to safely scramble.
>>142944966Kelce is gonna hit the wall this year. Season ending injury before the playoffs start.Unless this post gets dubs, in which case season ending injury by week 6
>>142945004based
>>142944974>>142944981Except he isn't a WR in how he's schemed, how other teams play against him, how and where he utilizes the field, how it counts against the cap, NFLPA, the other WRs don't see him as a WR and he runs the premiere most tight end academy with other giants at the position. Travis kelce is the greatest TE to play football and there really isn't any debate over it.
the mahomo fan is FUMING right now, he's gonna call the janny on you guys
>>142945004>can't dispute the fact that Brady won>because he did>start screeching about how discussing NFL qbs in an NFL thread is off topicholy copium Batman
>>142944953Mecole Hardman signed a 5M contract with the Jets and he was so bad they benched him for a cheap rookie despite having to eat his 5M contract. No other QB could have won with those guys.>>142944974When a TE gets 1,800 yards I'll take your post seriously.
>>142945038Brady isn't an NFL QB. He isn't employed by the NFL, he's employed by a television channel >>>/tv/ Discuss your celebrity worship there.
>>142945024i don't give a FUCK about any of that. he had 51 more targets than the next most receiver on his team. he's the WR1. arguing otherwise is disingenuous
>>142945051Righteously based
>>142945051Please google his name and read to the class out loud what is says underneath.
>>142945061hehehehehehehe but, like, he's not
>>142944803It's simple. This world is disgusting and putrid and everyone and everything that lives on it are all scum and all deserve to die. I hate this entire world and every single thing that resides in it including you and myself. I hope the entire planet is destroyed along with all life on it. Every waking second of life is pure misery. Back when I was young and naive I was more optimistic and hopeful for my future. Even though my parents were horribly abusive mentally ill drug addicts and every moment of my life was pure misery and suffering and sadness and loneliness I still had hope that I would have a good life and would have a good future. Everyday I lost more and more hope until eventually I grew up and no longer had any hope in fact all I had left where pure hatred and disdain for this world and everything on it. I no longer wish good will upon people I in fact wish for them to suffer. I want to inflict my pain and suffering upon all of you scum. Inflicting pain upon others is the only thing that makes me feel anything anymore. My body has been so numbed from all the pain I no longer feel anything. The worst was the loneliness. Just wanting someone anyone to talk to just a friend or a girlfriend or anyone but I never have had anyone. I've always been alone. I actually prefer it this way now. Being around other people makes me sick and angry. I want to hurt them and inflict pain and suffering on them so they can feel what I feel. I honestly don't know why I don't just kill myself. Maybe I'm just too much of a coward or maybe I just don't care. Tldr; Life is pointless and I hate everything.
>>142944955I kind of give Montana and his peers some slack or more credit based off of the same logic. The 2000's with Peyton and Brady were still physical, don't get me wrong, but there were more QB protections as time went on compared to the 80's and 90's. This clip of Jim Kelly talking about Tom back in 2018 sums it up.https://youtu.be/mspwRPW4kFs?t=263If you watch older films, it wasn't as crazy to see QB's get laid out. Montana for example got laid out by the Giants in the 1990-91 NFCCG on a hit that would be deemed dirty nowadays but was standard back then.https://youtu.be/c8uVZVbexJo
>>142945061>he had 51 more targets than the next most receiver on his teampretty nuts
>>142945061An offensive lineman can become an eligible receiver of the football if you announce his number as eligible. This doesn't make them a WR.
>>142945090if your offensive lineman is getting targeted 51 times more than the next most, he's WR1. how tall or fat he is doesn't matter. how much he's getting paid doesn't matter.
>>14294507250 percent of people over 30 think this way, sadly. The other 50 percent have kids.
>>142945063>Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. is an American former football quarterback >FormerSo he currently is not employed by the national football League and does not work as an athlete? Discussing Tom Brady now is akin to wasting your breath on Ryan Leaf or jamarcus Russell. It's just off topic.
>>142944955We've already seen Mahomes in the Brady era. His name was Aaron Rodgers.
>>142945112Thats not how positions are categorized in the NFL.It might not seem fair because Kelce is transcendent at his on the field play in a way nobody else has ever been at both the TE position, but also in NFL history. You do not have to declare the TE eligible. He can always catch the ball. It has always been a part of what their toolkit can do. It just has became more relevant in the league as every position continues to maximize their own worth with on the field play. This is a billion dollar industry with athletes making upwards to half a billion in their career. TE's learning to catch is just the natural evolution of the position.
>>142945146I don't give a fuck if he's a TE or a WR. He leads his team in targets every season. He's the leading receiver. He's WR1.
7 > 3 Simple as
Kelce pushes off a lot but it doesn't get called
>#Raiders WR Michael Gallup is retiring from the NFLAlways love the "Fuck it, I'm too old for this" retirements as training camp begins.
>>142945160Damn, he's younger than me.
>>142945007Rodgers gets injured far more frequently than Brady ever did and Young had to retire early because of concussions. Not to mention Brady's last owl win (in his mid 40's) featured him going right through Rodgers and his suPeriOr AthLetiC aBiLiTy by dabbing on him. In Green Bay. From the pocket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_EPUekfVoAnd then outscoring Mahomes and his suPeriOr AthLetiC aBiLiTy by 3+ touchdowns. From the pocket. As a man in his mid-40's with limited mobility. I'll take the pocket qb, thank you very much
>>142945133>Rodgers Absofuckinglutely not. Rodgers doesn't have a proper leadership bone in his body, and just happened to be one of the greatest at the other requirement for the position in throwing the football. His attitude issues and self inflated ego made him a poor leader that would choke in playoffs, and then throw everybody else under the bus. He only won 1 ring, spending most his career in the NFC and couldn't even manage to meet brady in the Superbowl fucking once.
>>142945155thisalso gronk is better.
>>142945152Except it doesn't, and if it did the league would be forced to pay him a lot more.
I think Brady STINKS. And I also think Mahomes SUCKS.
>>142945182>Gronk is betterNothing in gronks career shows this. No, ruining your body and forcing yourself into early retirement for 200 more yards and 10 more touchdowns in a singular regular season doesn't make him the better TE.
>>142945177>And then outscoring Mahomes and his suPeriOr AthLetiC aBiLiTy by 3+ touchdowns.In a game he had 4 starters out on the oline.
>>142945206Brady seems like the type to not shower
>>142945220Maybe they would've stayed healthy if Mahomes stayed in the pocket instead of running around the backfield and making his linemen have to exert themselves more to protect him.
>>142945194You can be a TE and be WR1 at the same time.
Brady bros....
>>142945236Haha yeah le epic maymay and Lamar is an ebin RB tooo cause he rushed a lot because I chortle when I call him a RB cause he has black skin!
>>142945213being an elite blocker does.
>>142945249haha it do be like that
>>142945213Blocking > not blockingzoomers would know this if they actually played football
>>142945250Kelce has been the best blocker on average at the TE position since kelce's career started. Availability is the best metric and gronk retiring 8 years ago despite being the same age as Kelce lowers his relative value in that timeframe. Furthermore Kelce is second only to Jerry Rice in playoffs.
>>142945258Wrong. Kelce is going to be remembered as the greatest TE in NFL history and his playoff records remembered in the same breath of air as Jerry Rices. What does gronk have? Lmao i guess his regular season TD record is safe.
>>142945272maybe if you're a taylor swift fan I guess.
>>142945177Scambling QBs take less damage. Rodgers won back to back MVPs in his late 30s, Steve Young's stats got better as he aged, Mahomes is one of the least touched QBs in the league. Pocker passing QBs are a dying breed. The dual threat mobile QBs are the future.
>>142945264>Kelce has been the best blocker on average at the TE position since kelce's career started.lol you're just making shit up now
Gronk>Brady babbbyLiterally, figuratively retired when he realized Brady was going to stop carrying him and only unretired to play with Brady Kelce>His 1k yard streak started with Alex Smith for multiple seasons And notably played great with multiple QBs including one known for mediocrity. I mean history writes itself.
>>142945244Can we stop for one fucking day w/ these posts
>>142945281No, I can say that with certainty. Just as I can say with certainly Kelce is the best TE to play in NFL history and his playof
>mahomo has never been the completion percentage leader this speaks volumes. every elite qb has had it, why cant he?
>>142945235Fun fact, Mahomes is also a superior pocket passer than Brady at this point in their careers. He does EVERYTHING better than Brady.
>>142945220Was Mahomes' offensive line going to stop Brady from throwing 3 touchdowns?They lost 31-9 and it could have been much more lopsided if Brady doesn't take his foot off the gas in the 4th. Let's be generous and say Mahomes throws for 3 touchdowns if his line's healthier and the Bucs don't score any additional points (even though they would have since they'd still be trying in the second half). Well congratulations, you still lose by 1.
>How many bitches did Brady fuck in his first 7 seasons.>How many bitches did Mahomes fuck in his first 7 seasons.That's what I'm talking about Bradybros
>>142945311>Geno Smith is elite
>>142945305kittle is a better blocker than kelce. gronk was a better blocker than kittle. basic math.
>>142945319>mahomo is worse than geno smithdamn...
>>142945315Mahomes scores 3 TDs that game if his WRs could catch. You can watch Mahomes sling the ball in crazy angles hitting his interned target in the bread basket multiple times that game and the pass gets dropped in the endzone. Top down failure from everybody on that team.
>>142945311Tell me, how many times did Brady be the completion percentage leader in his first 6 seasons as a starter?
>>142945324Wrong again, however bringing up Kittle you can directly see that Kelce is the better TE by just watching those Superbowls.
>>142945316Mahomes' wife has a nice ass but yeah, Brady definitely fuckmogs Patty Cuckatini
New bread.
>>142945348kittle disappears in owls but he's still a better blocker than kelce.
>>142945360But you're wrong. And everything shows you're wrong.
>>142945365No.
Why are we comparing a 3rd grader to a college postgraduate. Mahomes was a child when he played against Brady who had 20 seasons under his belt.
>>142945337Excuses, excuses.Brady beat Mahomes in KC with ONE good WR who was 5'10 and Jewish.
>>142945338Tell me again, how many times did Mahomes beat Brady in the playoffs?
Oh hey they've already released the script that people will seethe about when Mahomes hits these milestones "GOD THEY CANT STOP RIDING MAHOMES DICK" Without realizing your teams players also have a sheet like this, they're just not hitting the milestones as fast.
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>>142945387*won a coinflip in overtime*won an owl against a team with 4 starters out on the oline
>>142945350She's not too bad
>>1429453381 nigga. he didnt become a starter until 2001. YOU LOST.
>>142945392>pzmpr0o6abed1.jpg He's on pace to stat mog everyone.
>>142945406Brady wasn't a completion percentage leader until his 7th season. Mahomes has only played 6 seasons.
>>142945396>won>won
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