Is Henry the most overrated footballer of all time?
>>1429671501. Messi2. CR73. Ronaldo4. Zidane5. Ronaldinho 6. Iniesta 7. Xavi 8. Kaka9. Modric10. Rooney11. Suarez12. Henry13. Neymar14. Vieira15. Pirlo16. Lewandowski17. Ramos18. Puyol19. Kroos20. Neuer21. Casillas22. Buffon23. Shevchenko24. Ozil25. BusquetsSimple as
i dont care about the opinions of "experts" that never played at the highest level, or faggots on twitter
>>142967150How the fuck is mbappe on this list and almost top 5? Is this ragebait? 2 strong showings in world cups isnt enough for this. And any retard can win ligue 1 with psg
>>142967150It is basically the only good player in the premier league before the league was good so he is heavily romanticized and the gap between him and the players he played against was pretty wide as the premier was the forth league in Europe at best in that time frame
>>142967150Yes. No particular reason in particular...
>>142967170Ozil was not better than players like Silva or De Bruyne lol, he had a very short peak and his numbers are heavily inflated due RM beating down teams very hard (it was common to beat teams by 5 goals in that era). You also have Rooney way too high and didn't even mention Aguero or Xabi Alonso
>>142967150mbappé is literally 6th my dudeyou wont find more overrated than that
>>142967170Why are Shevchenko and Ozil even on your list? Where is Adriano/Ribery/Sneijder/Chiellini/Hummels
>>142967227De Bruyne is playing for by far the best team in the pl whats your point? The guy still hasnt led Belgium to ANY success without the fatass hazard there
>6 Mbappe>10 Ronaldiho>20 Neymar Jesus Christ
>>142967259>De Bruyne is playing for by far the best team in the pl whats your point?Messi played in Barcelona when that team was 2 tiers above anyone else. What's your point?>Belgium >SuccessKek, Ozil was a fucking ghost in the WC and in most important games for RM and Arsenal and he somehow gets a free pass for unknown reasons
>>142967220How much did Henry’s handball damage the popularity of football in Ireland?
>>142967260Ronaldinho and Neymar had like a 2 year peak kek, it is like rating Torres highly for that insane Liverpool season while ignoring the mediocrity of his career afterwards
>>142967227Rppney had the peak to compete with the "below Messi/CR7/R9/R10" tier and the longevity to be ranked that high.
>>142967227>AgueroWouldn't even rank in a top 10 strikers of the 21st century list, be fr>Xabi AlonsoWouldn't even rank in the top 5 Spanish midfielders
>>142967150>Haalcels on suicide watch
>>142967256>Adriano1 year peak, might as well rank Robinho while you're at it>RiberyRobben was better>SneijderLE ONE GOOD YEAR MAN. Rank Michi too.>Chiellel and HumlelLOL
>>142967380>Wouldn't even rank in a top 10 strikers of the 21st centuryDelusional>Wouldn't even rank in the top 5 Spanish midfieldersDelusional, if anything he was better than Busquets for the NT, he just played in shittier teams but he was fantastic. Busquets is literally a system baby and if he moved to any other team he would have been mocked harder than Casemiro. Your list also misses Dani Alves and Marcelo
>>142967295It was more a reputation hit than anything, especially because as a result of this FIFA decided to give >us a friendly with Argentina to compensate as well as I think €50m. This was one of many scandals which has absolutely crushed the FAI to the point where they couldn't find a manager for months and are currently looking for a CEO (the CEO that accepted the bribe was kicked out because of that and other controversies, and the guys to follow him have done fuck all to improve things, except for their golden goose the women's game).
>>142967406>DelusionalLuis Suarez, Lewandowski, Benzema, Ibrahimovic, Henry, Shevchenko, Rooney, Raul, Kane, Eto'oAll better than Aguero, and David Villa, Ronaldo both have a case too
>>142967297So?Ronaldinho from 99-2005 > your whole national team history/players and titles
>>142967436It’s such a shame that Ireland were cheated out of a place in the World Cup, especially as football would be much bigger in Ireland today had Ireland got into the 2010 World Cup.
>>142967391>>Sneijder>LE ONE GOOD YEAR MAN. Rank Michi too.No footballer's reputation has ever benefitted from one season as much as Sneijder's from 2009/10.He was regarded as a good player that's not living up to his potential at Madrid, then he moves to Inter, wins the treble without even being their best attacking player, scores some fluke World Cup goals and suddenly he's getting Ballon d'Or shouts and some people want him included on lists like this even though he fell off right after that season and did nothing more of note
>>142967456I don't think by much but it would be in a better position structurally. I don't think that means better talent but at least a better use of the talent that's there.
>>142967437>Ibrahimovic>Shevchenko>Raul> Kane>Eto'oNone of this are better than prime Aguero, they just played in a less demanding and weaker era, excluding Kane who is the only one who has a case over him. Aguero was injury prone but he has 7 seasons with 20+ goals while Ibrahimovic if you remove PSG stat padding has only 2 20+ goal seasons kek
>>142967451>Ronaldinho from 99-2005Why are Brazilians so stupid? You literally picked years in whcih Ronaldinho wasn't even that good. His 2 year peak is from 2005-2007, before that he was just a highlight merchant and not even a very impactful player>But muh jogo bonito!irrelevant
>>142967150>mbrap that high
>>142967150>Is Henry the most overrated footballer of all time?Probably Zidane. Massively overrated (AS A PLAYER) since he won some tournaments as Real Madrid's MANAGER.
>>142967548He was overrated before he managed RM lol. His club career is very mediocre and his legend revolves around 3 matches (98 WC final, 02 CL final, 06 WC quarter finals). If you remove that his whole career deflates a lot
so who ISN'T overrated as a player then?
>>142967566>if you remove him winning stuff then he doesn't look as goodA quality Spanish post as always>>142967596
>>142967617Winning is not just one final you low IQ brainlet, you should evaluate the entire tournament, and in 02 and the 98 WC Zidane was very discrete in general, of course and dumfuck bong who unironically thinks Lampard is the best midfielder of the XXI would hold such a stupid opinion.Griezmann has been better for the French NT than Zidane and he achieved something harder (carrying Atletico to a CL final vs winning one with RM that has 15) but no one even puts him in these lists
>>142967150Are you a literal zoomer? Who on that list below Henry deserves to be above him?
>>142967150Mbrappy doesn't deserve to be on there. Neymar isn't even in the top 20 Brazilian players this century. Biscuits was shite and forged a career out of being mates with everyone at Barcelona. Fuck knows why they've put Henry in at 3. He should make the list but not there. Ronaldinho is basically Neymar for millennials
>>142967645I don't think Lampard should be there. I didn't mention Frank Lampard. You are basically saying "if you remove these performances where a player was world class, he looks less good." It's retarded and pointless. He did play those games and he did win those titles and that's why people rate him>is Michael Schumacher one of the greatest F1 drivers ever?>NO BECAUSE IF YOU IGNORE THOSE RACES AND TITLES HE WON HE ISNT AS GOOD AS THIS OTHER GUY I LIKE
Being a 'trendy', manufactured, non-threatening to women type of black man in the modern age is such a shortcut to success. Same with The Rock, Lewis Hamilton and Anthony Joshua.
>>142967645HahahahahahahahahaHahahahahaAlso garbage tier list... Where are Schweinsteiger and Hummel's??
He was a bit overrated. I mean, where was Henry in the big games? Like the games against Man U, especially away. And he didn't turn up in any final Arsenal played.
>>142967596>who ISN'T overrated as a player then?Off the top of my head van Nistelrooy.
>>142967660Harry Kane is better than Henry and he isn't even on the list.
>>142967297That 2 year peak had a higher level of football than Mbappe's and most other player's entire carreer, longevity is the cope of mediocre players
>>142967406>Busquets is literally a system babyYou are the most retarded man in the entire world
>>142967686Your take is saying that an F1 driver is great because he won the last gap while ignoring the previous 50 laps in which he was shit, you brainless cuck
>>142967738Do you unironically see a player like Busquets being useful for a team like current Man United you dumb fucking piece of shit?>>142967730>longevity is the cope of mediocre players>nooooo greatness is just a youtube compilation, ignore the actual value that a player brings to a club through his entire career because because I say so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>142967851>he won the last lapi.e. winning the race???
>>142967150>1 (one) GermanYou know we literally won the world cup. At least add Neuer and Lahm
>>142968086>i.e. winning the race???No just the last lap
>>142967295Mate they still literally cry (tears down their fat faces) about it lmfao It was amazing
>>142967150Most of the boomer players are vastly overrated. And in general polls like this aren't about ability or accomplishments but rather about fame.
>>142967720lmao
>>142967686Schumacher had more than 3 good races in his career tbf
>>142968605Count the goals lad. Kane has already scored more top flight goals than Henry in fewer matches (I don't count MLS) while playing mostly for Spurs while Henry played in one of the greatest teams in epl ever. Kane has more international goals than Henry, in fewer matches, while playing for England rather one of the greatest international teams of the modern era. Kane has more world cup goals than Henry, and more knockout goals, and the same goes for the Euros>inb4 Kane is pecho frioSo was Henry>>142967686It's called #RootmathsIf you ignore Joe Root's high scores, which are clearly outliers, he's a shit player
>>142967150Mözil, but no LahmESPGAY is really only full of brain dead trannys kek
>>142968756Lahm is a shitter
>>142968775He is one of the best Right-Backs of all times, many years he was the most important player for Bayern and Germany
>>142968838>best Right-Backs of all timesAccording to Germans, he has 0 important moments (well he does but it is mostly blunders like the 08 final or the Balotelli goal) or contributions and his peak stat is having little yellow cards in Bundesliga. Dani Alves moggs the shit out of him
>>142967566He became immortal after scoring 2 lucky headers against brazil in 98 (was shit rest of the wc) and everything he did after that was massively blown up. He was never a consistent preformer, del piero who isnt even on this list was a better player than him in the same team
>>142967150He was no better than say, Michael Owen. So yeah, overrated.
>>142968892When Del Piero got injured in 1998, Zidane finished 7th in Serie A with Juventus. If you look at the equivalent of scores during his time at Juve he was ranked some years the 24th best midfielder in the league. He is the definition of an overrated fraud due>Muh aesthetics
>>142967295https://youtu.be/WyDs7BvpyUQ?si=XYg7VwClJnmEctdHThis is the correct take
>>142967150LCIM in the mud
>no RobbenIrrelevant
>>142967150Zlatan is more overrated
>>142968921keano was too based for footy
MessiXaviIniestaRonaldoRobben Simple as
>>142968879>Comparing Dani Alves that wasn't even a starter for Brazil in 2014 to LahmYeah, zoomie detected kek
>>142968974I have watched Lahm since the 06 WC until he retires. He is probably the most overrated player of all time, he doesn't even lick Alves boots kek, Germans live in a parallel dimension
>>142968997He won a world cup as our captain and best player. Dani boy, wasn't even good enough to play for Brazil when we raped them
>>142969027>He won a world cup as our captain and best player.deluded cunt
>>142969027He wasn't the best player kek, he didn't even get into the best XI in the tournament. Holy fucking shit the absolute delusion of Buyern troonies. If anyone reads you they would think Lahm that world cup was prime Cafu or something like that when he was completly forgettable and had plenty of stinkers like against Algeria or Argentina
>>142969027I swear Germans change their "best WC 2014 player" every day depending on the argument topic.I've seen it used for Neuer, Hummels, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Oezil, Mueller, but I think this is a first one for Lahm
>>142969065>he didn't even get into the best XI in the tournamentOf course he did, who was a better right-back at this time? Your beloved Dani Alves kek? Bring your sister to him and watch him rape her, you little cuck. But stop talking about times you didn't watch football, you little manlet faggot
>>142969155I agree Lahm is slightly better but you're a retard
>>142969112>Oezil, Muellerlearn to write at least the names right, Lewandfotzki, Gott gütiger
>>142967170i approve
>>142969170Don't care about your opinion, faggot.I loved how gaynaldo hit Lahm with his free kick. And everytime we raped your shithole when we played. Your pathetic team is our favorite whore. Zero WC BTW kek
>>142969179That's the correct way of replacing umlauts when your keyboard doesn't have them you gigantic retard.
>>142968730Different eras, the premier league and champions league was a lot more balanced back then. Also Kane is a #9 on his own up top, the whole system is geared towards getting the ball to him 10 yards out.
>>142969221ffs just ignore them, no one cares about germutt alphabet autism, not even them nor their asian ancestors
>>142969155It is as simple as to google it you dumb fuck
>>142967192How about the faggots of /sp/
>>142969216You really are a retard, 80 IQ max and I'm being generous
Reminder that Messi got pumped full with hgh for years and should only appear in the list with other confirmed roiders like Guardiola and Frank de Boer
>>142969528Maradona did steroids too kek
>>142967150That list is shit1. Messi2. Ronaldinho 3. Henry4. Neymar5. Neuer4. Marcelo5. Iniesta 6. Pirlo7. Drogba 8. Robben9. Juninho Pernambucano
>>142968896STILL CRYING LMFAOOooOooooo
>>142967150fucking retarded mutts don't know how good R9 was. Mbappe is definitely not that far up.
Every player that played before I started watching is overrated. This is a fact
>>142971231>R9Richarlison should be there, yeah
>>142967660Are you an Arsenal fan? How about R9 and Dinho just to name the obvious ones?
>>142970929I posted this>>142968921
>>142970846your list is even worse carlos, how do you leave out fat ronaldo and put in meme players like Juninho
>>142972019Fat Ronaldo's peak was during the 90s. In an all time list, I'd put him third below Pelé and Maradona. Juninho singlehandedly took Lyon to champions league quarter finals and he's by far the undisputed goat of free kicks.
noone here even disputed Messi as #1He really won huh
>>142967150>people in this site are always seething about Messi but they have not issued with him at number 1
>>142967150>mbappe>25 yo
>people rating NeymarHe hasnt done shit since 2017 lol thats nearly a decade ago. PSG was just as good without him, same with brazil, Fatzard mogged him in the most important game of his careerNot even a top 10 brazil player since 2000
>>142969112there is a reason why Messi won best player of the tournament even if 95% of the time a player for the winner team is the one getting it.
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>>142967150>21st centuryNot interested
>>142972630>>142972640There's no doubt that he's the best of the 21st century so far... The greatest of all time is a completely different story and he doesn't even belong in that discussion.
>>142973858But Pele the plumber slayer does?
>>142973694Uruguayo in UK lol
>>142972354So wheres Kaka who single handedly won a CL in 07 with an aging overrated Memeland team and the BdO?
How can Neymar be so low? It doesn't make sense. He's the 3rd best player of the 2010s.
>>142974070No, Maradona is unironically the GOAT and it's not even a contest. What he did for Napoli trumps Messi AND Ronaldo's entire club career on sheer difficulty and impact, and what he's done for Argentina also trumps Messi. They're 1 and 2 though.
>>142974070Of course. If you informed yourself, you'd know Pelé was an athletic prodigy in his own right. He could run, dribble and jump like no man of his time. Just like peak Messi but without all the medical aid. He was a world-wide sensation. People flocked together from different corners of the country just to catch a glimpse of him. He was bigger than the Pope, who started touring the world when he saw the massive engagement of the people on Pele's world tours. You had to see it to believe it. He won games and cups like the US basketball team in the '92 Olympics. His gift for football was simply unparalleled and couldn't be even compared to anybody else until Maradona came by decades later.
>>142967170suarez >>>>>>>>> rooneyneymar and lewandowski overrated
>>142974216Yeah, Kaká can easily be switched for Marcelo, Neuer or Neymar in my list. It's hard to make lists like these. I tried to cover different positions and styles, but yeah Kaká absolutely belongs among the best midfielders of the 21st century.
>>142974224>le 2 season peak in a stacked team and being a degenerate coomer afterwards manOverrated
>>142973383Messi was a ghost after the group stage. He didn't tmdeserve the 2014 MVP. Forlan won it in 2010 and Modric in 2018 so it is very common for losing teams to get a tournament MVP
Ronaldo Nazario is the single most overrated player in history, he didn't have neither the peak or longevity to be in the GOAT conversationsAnd yes, he's still one of the best players ever, doesn't stop someone from being overrated
>>142974404>its very common>names only two in god knows how many mundiales
>>1429744443 of the last 4 WC dumbass. There are other examples like Stoickov in 94
Robben or Ribery are literally top 10 in the past 20 years, cope list
>>142968625The race down the mountainThe race to hospital in the ambulanceThe race into ICU
>>142968775KEK Lahm is the only player in history to pocket prime ronaldo and messi, effortlessly too, you fucking dishonest retard
Dare anyone here to look at Haaland's stats.
>>142974537Why are Buyern customers so fucking deluded
>>142974376le most skillful player of the last 15 years, 754 goals/assists in 741 matches man
>>142974587These two got bayern single handedly into the semis of CL for 10 years straight. Fuck off retard
>>142974573Yeah bro what a fucking garbage take. I watched all those CL ties and you must only watch compilations if you think they were spectacular performances. Messi didn't even play on Lahm's wing kek, this is the fucking level of delusion of Buyern customers, Lahm couldn't even pocket Torres or Ballotelli but any mediocre performance from him you would call it a masterclass
>>142974625>implying it was just those too. They retired and kept winning titles and even won a CL. Bayern also only played the CL as the bundes was a walk in the park so that result has a lot less merit than you think
>>142974427I think this applies to Zidane more than Ronaldo. Zidane had a lot of highlights while his lowlights were completely memoryholed. R9s peak is absolutely not to be underestimated. His peak was better than CR7s peak, no defense could stop him
>>142974615His stats are inflated due PSG. Look at Ibra's stats before and after PSG kek
>>142974682Are his stats inflated due to a stacked Santos too? lol
>>142974663Wrong. Bayern is literally in shambles because Ribery and Robben left in the same season, exactly as I predicted. They left, every season they got worse. Sure, Bayern won the corona year titles, but those were literally a fluke. Bayern should have lost like the last 3 Bundesliga races too. Kill yourself, as per your flag obvious, you have no idea what you are talking about. Let me guess, you are still denying you got outplayed in the euros and won because you fucking cheated, you brown subhuman piece of shit?
>>142974615>>142974731based neymar appreciator
>>142974682Another spaniard another horrible take. Neymar is argubly the most talented football player in the history of the game. You could say he didn't reach his whole potential because he is a fellow brown subhuman just like you, but not including him in a top 10 of the last years is absolutely insane.
>>142974737>Bayern wins a bunch of league titles and as many CL since Ribery and Robben left.>NOOOOOO THEY HARD CARRYKekerino
>>142974771>as many CL>won one asterisk CL kekRibeRy and Robben are the only reason Bayern have as much money as they do. They even made shitters like Mandzukic, Müller etc look world class. kys brownoid
>>142967150I'd say he deserves to be there more than de Bruyne, Benzema, Neymar and Fraudbappé.
>>142974427Gen X and Millenials hold him very high for some reason. They call him the greatest striker ever but he wasn't even a good header. He was great but even Ronaldinho was vastly superior to him.
>>142974737Post some big games where Ribery was world class. It seemed like he was constantly overshadowed by Robben in european games.
>>142974264>They're 1 and 2 though.Why are argies so good?
>>142969470he doesn't care about your opinion either
>>142974769>Neymar is argubly the most talented football player in the history of the game.kek how is he more talented than Messi
>>1429671501. Messi2. Cristiano Ronaldo3. R94. Ronaldinho5. Thierry Henry6. Modric7. Kaka 8. Iniesta9. Xavi10. Drogba11. Robben12. Neymar13. Pirlo14. Lahm15. Ramos
>>142974769>muh talentFucking irrelevant if you do nothing with it. Neymar at PSG was at massive flop and in 2018 he had a bad display because he had shit physical preparation. Isco was also very talented and it would be stupid to place him in any of these rankings as he didn't do that much with it. Neymar achieved more than Isco and was better as well before you chimp out but putting him in the top 3 is retarded
>>142967865Yes, prime Busquets was good at all of the aspects of being a CDM while also having insane build up even under pressure, there's literally no team in the face of the planet earth where he wouldn't have been a positive factor>NOOOO FOOTBALL IS ONLY ABOUT STATS AND TROPHIES, BIG PEE PEE NUMBER MEANS GOODERWhy isn't Maxwell on your list then?
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>>142967150>mbappe 6thme when i smoke crack
