>>142981343>NOOOOO YOU JUST HAVE TO PLAY BORING FOOTBALL IS NOT LE ENTERTAINMENT ITS LE HECKING WAR WITH HIGH STAKESFuck off you bald sissy
>>142982171sentiu
>>142981343messi used PEDs tho
>>142983271You pretend to be American
>>142982171Bah he has a point, if your ball control is not godly you rely more on tricks to beat players, for example Cristiano, when you have godly control like Messi or Maradona you just slalom which is 1000 times more dangerous
>>142983528You have to be a midget freak for this
>>142981343Said by the one trick pony himself.
>>142982171rekt
>>142981343Based cut inside man. I miss him so much
>>142981343Neymar himself has stated this, and puts Messi a level above him. I will say Neymar was the 2nd most talented of this generation, and hated how he was hacked down, because he played with flair.
>>142986519Hazard was a better dribbler than Neymar. Neymar had better vision and passing but speaking purely on dribbling Neymar is not the second best player of this generation
>>142981343messi doesn't do any tricks? sheer ignorance, messi has the most flexible ankles in football, this is how he "tricks" players and put them off balance by taunting them to go one way then immediatly move the opposite direction by using his overflexible ankles to quickly change his direction.
>>142986519flair is a buzzword for saying tactically ineptneymar's ego is the reason why he didnt win 5 ballon d'ors, his futsal favela mindset is why he kept engaging in pointless duels, trying to get fouled instead of passing the ball.
>>142986541>Hazard was a better dribbler than NeymarLet it go, Uefadrid. Wasting 100 milly on McFatzard doesnt mean you can lie to us.
>>142983528Not true, the more ball control more tricks you can do it
>>142987295Tricks are inefficient. Neymar can't slalom like Messi which is why he had to use tricks and flairs to beat defenders.
>>142987257Neymar was better than Hazard at everything but dribbling. You probably just watched compilations and think you have an authority over anything kek
>>142987582No. Neymar was the better dribbler and the 2nd best dribbler after Messi. Neymar is better than Hazard at literally everything.
it was kinda funny and sad hearing neymar talk about how he tried to reenact pissi's plays while training but couldn't even get close and how that frustrated him, probably one of the many factors that drove him to retire at 25
>>142987639What a retarded cope. Neymar must be the most overrated player of all time with fucking morons like you overhyping him so much.
>>142981343His unique control of Qataris wallets, that is
>>142986489inshallah he will lead Groningen to glory
>>142982171Absolutely based, fuck statfags and self-important faggots thinking entertainment sports are some kind of grand battle for the destiny of mankind.
>>142981343>that grey hairholy shit, stop the fucking count
>>142987295Yeah but then you're wasting time and giving the defence time to reposition. Messi just ran fast with the ball glued to his feet and was impossible to stop without a faul
>>142987561>SlalomThat’s just called changing directions. Literally all players can do it, Messi is just particularly good because of being a midget with a low center of gravity and PEDs that made him more resistant to injury.It is the opposite actually, Messi can’t do the “tricks” Neymar or Ronaldinho can, but he’s good at changing directions at a fast pace because oftentimes that’s effective, but he couldn’t get out of certain situations Neymar and Ronaldinho could.
>>142987561>Neymar can't slalom like Messibshttps://youtu.be/BOgjjsXGmeEhttps://youtu.be/CIrOdaGSSIw
>>142987910>Literally all players can do it,Yes of course but if you don't have a good ball control in speed you will constantly lose thr ball. Neymar couldn't do it which is why he always resorted to dribbling tricks close to the wing which had 1/12 of the impact and danger.Messi could do plenty of tricks, his touch completely mogs Neymar and he has shown incredible skills in small spaces, he simply just opted for the most dangerous and efficient option which is why he is the best player in history while Neymar wasn't even the best player at PSG once Mbappe settled in the team, won jack shit outside Barcelona and was a complete failure in every world cup he played in with the most relevant country in international football
>>142987923Bro you literally posted a friendly match in which players were walking and a dribbling skill that is nowhere near prime Messi. Holy fucking kek at this delusion. Why the fuck do zoomies overrate Neymar so fucking much? https://youtu.be/i8TBwuN2zj4?si=B29qLdUONGXqNoRd
>>142987872cope
>>142981343the greatest trick of all...
>>142987910PEDs are the reason he has so many ankle injuries. They aren't good for your joins and his roid muscles put too much strain on his tendons
>>142988013i'm not saying he was as good doing that as messi, but he can do the slalom thing. 2nd video was a champions league match
>>142988123>but he can do the slalom thingThe slalom thing can be done by fucking Kante, the whole point is how efficiently and consistently can you do it, and Neymar couldn't even slalom like Hazard, which is not even controversial desu. Neymar had an incredible touch and vision and he was very skilled but his dribbling was not nearly as destructive as players that had immaculate ball control and acceleration like Messi or Maradona
messi fags will claim that all the players are frauds except messi
>>142988258>messi fags will claim that all the players are frauds except messiNo, you simply can't claim that Neymar is better at dribbling due >muh tricksWhen those tricks have 1/12 of the efficiency and danger of a Messi/Maradona slalom.
>>142988293Messi can't do the tricks Neymar can
>>142981343robben stays based
Neymar is the 3rd most talented player of all time after Messi and R9
>>142988320Messi doesn't need to do those tricks as they are way more inefficient and useless than what he does. Messi has shown incredible ball control in short distances and if he practice any of those tricks he could pull them off with absolute ease. Messi's talent is just on another dimensionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmoQl3idPvQ&ab_channel=Ondra%C5%A0ef%C4%8D%C3%ADk
>>142987985you dindt uderstood what he said, because of tricks or resources you can get out of situations messi would just pass, if everybody played like messi football would lost the sovl, why do you think so many poltards think guardiola killed football.imagine cr7 witohut step oversimagine zidane without roulettesimagine ronaldinho witohut elasticos
>>142988343>Neymar is the most *qualitative assestment that I pull out of my ass*^because I say so
>>142988371Do you unironically think those tricks get you a real advantage 99% of the time? Literally passing side ways is the better option in 99.99% of the situations in which you would use a Neymar trick. Messi has insane ball control, he could do those tricks if he wanted to or spent time practicing, but as his dribbling is godly with the basics, there is no fucking point in him wasting time doing tricks that are more beautiful than useful
>>142988371You can't reason with Messi fan boys, don't try. He is great, there's no reason to downplay other players, least of all Ney who always sites Messi as better than him, but they can't help themselves. Weirdos>>142988420Yes it's effective because Neymar has 1 goal or assist every 90 minutes spanning a 16 year carrer. Yes it's effective because he is brasil all time leading scorer and the all time international assist record holder. You're acting like he’s Jay Jay fucking okocha
>>142988868Neymar's career is heavily inflated because he played in France.
>>142988892Not sure why you are posting zlatans stats? Neymar played 186 matches for barcelona and has 181 goal contributions for them
>>142989142>Not sure why you are posting zlatans stats?To prove how inflated league 1 stats are
He's right. The best don't need tricks. That's why Zidane was a better dribbler than all the 90s Brazilians.
>>142989183Then why were Messi's stats in Paris so low?
>>142987910Nobody was ever able to do what Messi did with the ball as consistent through so many years. Even your own idols from Brazil will say that. And if you want to be taken seriously cut the PED meme. He had to inject growth hormone when he was a kid because he had a defiency. It Has nothing to do with PED’s.
>>142989828>Then why were Messi's stats in Paris so low?He was washed and depressed, prime Messi was a menace in the CL, Neymar sucked major grade A dick in all his CL runs without Messi
>>142989828Man was 34. Well past his peak. And he wasn’t even that terrible. He just wasn’t on top level after his own standards.
>>142987910Btw you don't need tricks to get out of hard situations, Iniesta moggs Neymar in terms of beating pressure and not losing the ball and he never in his life did a FIFA trick, just basic croquetas and ball control because that is all you need when your technique is excellenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSSYQta7eg&ab_channel=VideoHDMessi like Iniesta had immaculate technique so they didn't need to over complicate things and just went for the best option
>>142987639Hazard is statistically he 2nd best dribbler of all time, only behind Messi, way above Neymar, even if he wasted 4 years doing nothing at madridIf he didnt became fat and injured, he could be n°1, but being right behind Messi is no shameHazard was also a lot stronger physically than Neymar and just as fast, look Belgium-Brazil 2018 what he did to Marcelo lol
Maybe if Messoy had more tricks he wouldn't have gotten mogged by Casemiro every time
>>142986456He didn't do any tricks, he just cut inside and scored. Nothing fancy.
>>142990061didn't he recked Casemiro with a sombrero?
>>142989993the only stat that should matter is dribbles that result in goal
>>142981343Pelé, the real GOAT, knew all the tricks and applied themWhy cant (p)essi cuccitini do the same?
>>142982171>messi dribbles like an argie and Neymar like a Brazilian >BRAZILIANS: NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO DRIBBLE LIKE US
>>142987910>PEDsO TWAINZINHO
>>142990890Messi scored way more than Neymar
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>>142987910>Messi is just particularly good because of being a midget with a low center of gravityafter more than 15 years people still dont understand what made messi great at dribbling, it wasnt only being short with a low center of gravity, it's the way he runs, look how many touches messi does with every step in a run and compare that to other players, that is what allowed him to change directions at almost any time
>>143012635And if he didn't sell his preteen body for drugs he would be dribbling for change(1000 pesos) on a Rosario street corner.
>>142989993Hazard was so fun to watch when he was at his very short peak. I'd put him on par with Neymar, both behind Messi of course.
