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Tuesday:
Juventus versus PSV kick off 17:45 BST
Young Boys versus Aston Villa kick off 17:45 BST
AC Milan versus Liverpool kick off 20:00 BST
Bayern Munich versus Dinamo Zagreb kick off 20:00 BST
Real Madrid versus Stuttgart kick off 20:00 BST
Sporting CP versus Lille kick off 20:00 BST

Wednesday:
Bologna versus Shakhtar Donetsk kick off 17:45 BST
Sparta Prague versus Red Bull Salzburg kick off 17:45 BST
Celtic versus Slovan Bratislava kick off 20:00 BST
Club Brugge versus Borussia Dortmund kick off 20:00 BST
Manchester City versus Inter Milan kick off 20:00 BST
PSG versus Girona kick off 20:00 BST

Thursday:
Feyenoord versus Bayer Leverkusen kick off 17:45 BST
Red Star Belgrade versus Benfica kick off 17:45 BST
Atalanta versus Arsenal kick off 20:00 BST
Atlético Madrid versus RB Leipzig kick off 20:00 BST
Brest versus Sturm Graz kick off 20:00 BST
Monaco versus Barcelona kick off 20:00 BST
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Excited for the new format, expecting a win today
>Juve-PSV
1-0
>Young Boys-Villa
1-3
>Milan-Liverpool
0-0
>Bayern-Dinamo
4-0
>Real-Stuttgart
3-1
>Sporting-Lille
2-0
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>6 games in a day
isn't that too many?
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How good are Young Boys?
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>>144495437
There used to be 8 matches a day in the old format.
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>this shitty format just to have two good matches in three days
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>>144495527
really? there were only 2 matchdays for 1 round?

>>144495638
embrace the superior 16 team super league with no shitters model, brother. super league if the saviour of football, even of league football
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>>144495649
I wouldn't be against it, if it wasn't being shilled by florentino perez, but everything being managed by that guy is shady af. Real Madrid and Barcelona are state clubs and I'm sure they'd find a way to rig the whole thing for them
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>Young Boys in the Wankdorf stadium

Why are Yuros like this?
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>>144495491
i was surprised by how bad they are when we played them in the EL last season
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>>144495365
>Real madrid won
>City won
Yawn
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>>144496407
He's getting a season ending injury while trying to statpad
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>>144496407
1
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this format is the result of all the left wingers in football that cry over including the small teams and think that they're reducing inequality but it's actually the opposite.

take Dinamo Zagreb, for example. them being in the CL doesn't give them enough money to stop being fodder in the competition and CL inequality increases. then when they play domestic football they dominate due to their CL money and inequality in Croatian football increases

the only way that you decrease inequality in Europe is through the reform domestic football in smaller nations. and the way to do that is having European football be the harshest most competitive competition you can make it a la the European Super League. losing out on European football will force the smaller nations to reform their domestic scene
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>>144495716
>everything being managed by that guy is shady af
Indeed.
>Real Madrid and Barcelona are state clubs and I'm sure they'd find a way to rig the whole thing for them
Truthnuke
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>>144496407

3
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>>144496407
0
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>>144496548
The Premier League shows that having a highly competitive top flight, even with some form of promotion/relegation, doesn't guarantee financial parity at all. If anything, the financial gap just increases even more. And financial parity has never really existed in football anyway. Throughout history, the European Cup/Champions League was typically won by one of the richest clubs in the competition.
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Cam on PSV
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>>144496407
2
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>that PSV defence
Wtf lmao, 5-1 to Juve
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THE CHAAAAMPIOONSS
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Juve doesn't stand a chance against LUUK
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>>144495365
>Juve-PSV
2-0
>Young Boys-Villa
2-1
>Milan-Liverpool
0-1
>Bayern-Dinamo
1-3
>Real-Stuttgart
1-2
>Sporting-Lille
1-1
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Tell me more about Thiago Motta
Is he just another fraud?
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>Luuk De Jong
Huh? Wasn't he the Ajax player that went to Barcelona? I swear there's always about 3 dutch players named De Jong at one given time.
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>>144498269
There's Siem and Luuk, they're brothers. And there's the twink named Frenkie.

Further in the past you have serial murderer Nigel
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>>144498268
the answer is obvious
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>>144498282
>nigel
I miss him so much
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>You now remember Bakayoko
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>>144498350
He's a director now at the KNVB, so you often see him around the NT
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That Yildiz nigga is pretty elite.
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Del Piero-esque goal
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Wanne bout
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>>144496474
He doesn't score when it matters
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>The state of dutch defending
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>PSV defence
Just forfeit
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Grim
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This shit is dead i'm making a match thread
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>>144498617
Defense is not something the Dutch excel at
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>>144495649
>really? there were only 2 matchdays for 1 round?
yeah. It was just tuesdays and wednesdays. Europa was only thursdays
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UTV
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>>144496407
4
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>>144496407
double hattrick against the globohomos
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>McKennie
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>>144498675
Real American patriot hours
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so since there's an extra 2 games in the league phase and a potential 2 more if you have to play the play-offs, what's the odds someone breaks record for most goals in a CL campaign this season?
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Wasnt PSV good last year? What happened?
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>>144498750
>betting money on the Dutch
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>>144498745
Memedivisie is a no-defence-just-vibes league. And PSV lost most of their good defenders by selling them or through injury and their amerimutt TD only signed attackers so now they play children at fullback
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>>144498763
>Memedivisie is a no-defence-just-vibes league
Is this a new phenomenon?
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>>144498791
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>>144496407
six
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cmon villa give em a chance
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well see you at the next fixtures this is over
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Bakayoko is so fucking had.
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hit him in the balls lol
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>>144498687
land of the free
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>>144496407
4 goals.
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>needing var to stop getting pummelled
>YB
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>>144498933
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>>144498675
I'm watching the game right now, and I specifically came here to say this:

HOLY FUCK, MCKENNIE IS FAT AS SHIT, HOW IS HE EVEN A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE, LET ALONE A STARTER FOR JUVE.
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>>144498947
I'll be right as well. He's in peak form and scored 3 against Kiel over the weekend, and Zagreb is Kiel tier competition.
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>>144498933
dubs confirm
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there are no groups this year?
i dont like this change
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Does anyone remember when the CL format was 2 group stages??

There was the normal first group stage we're all familiar with, and then the 16 that emerged were put into 4 new groups.
The 8 that emerged went into the Quarter finals.

Based or cringe?
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>>144499160
theres one big group, but each team only plays a small selection of the others in the group. Theres a methodology to which teams any one single team got drawn against, it's not random. You could say it's fairly balanced all things considered, but chaotic enough in that theres more variety and unpredictability.

I've got an open mind about it, the previous format had become stale, I welcome a change in theory, at least temporarily. Whether this change is the right one or not? I'm willing to let it play out and compose my thoughts at the end of the season.
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>>144498959
burger pay2play system has its rewards
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starting with two unwatchable games! GREAT the revamp of the format seems to have worked more indifferent matches noone will be watching
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Why is he pulling off the other guys pants?
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carvajal as a fucking cb because dementino won't use money i'm chimping out
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>>144499948
Oh poor little Real Madrid, wont someone ever think of the underdogs?
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>>144499948
noooo why won't boomerino spend another 70 million on an ngubu
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AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I CANT SCORE AGAINST SERIA A SHITTERS
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>>144498933

Winrar
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>refs
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the state of that pitch tho
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That might be the worst offside decision I've ever seen
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>>144501119

Spanish referee
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Dinamo gonna lose 7:0
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>>144501161
last time they did that they at least made money out of it
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yes hello excuse me but where are the croatian talents??
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UCL is gay without Russian teams
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>>144501365
yeah they brought so much to the competition like that one time 20 years ago when cska moscow reched the quarter finals a feat mighty apoel fc managed to also achieve much more recently than them
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>>144500026
>>144500026
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>>144501248
They already made money by getting into champions league, but they gonna maybe get a few points
they are for europa/conference league even europa is streching it
>>144501250
Ignore that spammer he thinks every young shitter is gonna be a new messi
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why so dead? no one watching nu CL?
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>>144501703
Yes, i am watching Sporting.

Very mild game, Lille blew it at the end of the first half
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I'm watching Gyokeres play for my club while I can tbqh
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>>144501435
CSKA Moscow won the Uefa Cup
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Ficki Ficki buyern
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>swapping GK just for lulz
based Vin Sir Kompany
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Mtapin strikes again
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Fuck sake lmaoooooooo
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whats he thinkin?
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>>144501463
i meant the notorious game against lyon thay was investigated for match fixing
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I stand corrected this is absolute kino
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>>144501703
maybe they are hiding in the bundesmeme thread
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>>144502097

Damn, why did we smoke that weed in the halftime break.
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>>144502191
That was only Zunullreich. He thought he could afford to get high during the game because he didn't think he would play.
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This was bullshit. How far back can they go for a handball that they didn't flag? Score at 85 min, get it disallowed because of a handball at kick off?
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>>144498947
>>144498973
>>144501028
2 more to go.
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>>144502236
it was in the same passage of play retard
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>opening up the game so kane can statpad
kompany is a genius
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MAKE THAT 1 MORE GOAL TO GO.
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>>144502293
It wasn't called, it didn't lead directly to the goal
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>>144502314
nvm
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Dinamo Zagreb is somehow almost always qualifying for the Champions League only to then get absolutely destroyed in every game they're playing in.

Why do they even bother coming back every year?
Do they have a humiliation fetish or something?
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>>144502415

What is money?
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>score two goals against a club far above our league
>collective intelligence quotient of the team drops to double digits
wouldn't be a croatian club otherwise
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Debast just scored the goal of the tournament
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ΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΗΑΗΑΑ LAUGH LAUGH AT FRAUDACTICOS
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>>144502563
describe it in 10 words or less
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honestly dinamo shouldve just shut their mouth and went with the 3:0
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Kane 3/4
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>>144502651
30m blooter top corner
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>It's a no slurpers match day
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>>144502563
him and Gyokeres are your only good players, Amorim is making miracles with this shit team, literally no middlefield and no zero attack outside of Gyokeres, the rest are all system babies doing what Amorim tells them to do, zero talent
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>>144502782
thank you for your (wrong) input
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>>144496407
>>144498933
I called it btw.
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>>144498933
BASED
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Can Bayern push it to 10?

Zagreb is a disaster, honestly seem like a neighborhood bar team of middle-aged lads
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>3:0 game is over, everyone is chill
>get uppidty and score 2 goals on cold goalie
>eat 4 more goals
kwab
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>>144502826

Now Kompani needs to bring Tel, so Kane doesn't score 5.
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>>144502817
your defense is shit, french teams are all trash and you can barely outplay them with 10 men
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>3 pens
rigging it so erling can't get golden boot
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>>144502870
with 10 more minutes to go!
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>>144502886
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>3 (P)s consneeded
the fuck is zagreb doing?
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SO THEY DID IT AGAIN THESE SHAMELESS RIGGERS
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>Harry Kane (p)
>Harry Kane
>Harry Kane (p)
>Harry Kane (p)

:\
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Final: Bayern vs Barcelona
cap me
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>>144502331
Doesn't matter.
"Directly leads to goal" is not the relevant standard.
"In the same play" is the standard.
It was exactly 20 seconds between the handball and the goal, during which time not a single YB player even touched the ball (much less gained possession of it).
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
EVEN SANE SCORES
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>>144502969
yeah but he also did stuff like this
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>>144502955
I always wondered this but was to afraid to ask in person
do broadcasters dictate which side to amplify? can they?
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2 to go....
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>defend all game and score from a corner
Madrid are just arsenal now
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>>144501161
Called it
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How come no big clubs want anything to do with Gyokeres?
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>8-2
why is this allowed?
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Bayern are raping these Croats like there is no tomorrow

How can a team like this be in the Champions League?
Completely devalues the competition desu
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'Arry yer a penalty wizard
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I'd 8-2 be a ukranian
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>>144503117
blame uefa
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>>144503114
i'd tell you but i'd 8-2 tell you
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You just 8-2 see this if you are a Dinamo fan
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>>144498933
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>>144503117
Dinamo Zagreb has by far the worst record of a team in the UCL Groups' history
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KWAB KWAB KWAB KWAB DINAMO
KWABNAMO ZAKWAB
SHOULD HAVE JUST KEPT YOUR HEAD DOWN KEKRATS
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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What a great decision from UEFA, huh? I've always wanted to see some random team getting raped by Bayern or Manure. That's just what the champions league needed.
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Rüdiger Just knows how to place it through Training in Herzogaurach
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This format is a disaster lol, so many teams who don't deserve to be in the competition getting highlighted.
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>>144503193
eh
dont like nu cl but this couldve happened easily in the old format as well
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How comes games in this new format feel like friendly games over the summer
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>>144503204
there are 4 extra teams in this format and all of them are from the top 4 leagues

every single one of the "smaller" clubs would've been in the old format as well. If anything, the league phase makes it much harder for them to fluke it and make it to knockouts
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>>144502782
yes and no
pote is decent
trincao is decent
Morten is very good
that's 5 decent players imo
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>>144503099
He's not good
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>>144503210
It's worse imo because you don't get home and aways so there's literally no motive to try if you're a weak team away to a top one.
Focus on other games
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kwab
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Bayern looking like the greatest team ever tonight
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holy blowout
next time just take the 3:0
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ffs how is kompany gonna get fired to rebuild his reputation before city want him now
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>>144503284
City is getting Xabi and Wirtz after Guardiola
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i'd 9-2 be Zagreb tonight :^)
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for me, it's harry kane (P)
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GD might be important
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Please ref, don't end this game.

LET THE 10 HAPPEN!!!!
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> conceding to roidman
Worse than a 10-0 t b h
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Bayern putting the entire continent on notice. Almost 10-2 there
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kek i love how they dont stop at all
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>>144503304
Harry Kane (p) is tonight's Soulless Corporation Player Of The Match :^)
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>>144503210
the issue is, back then, you would have a home Bayern game which might have allowed you to snatch a point or three depending on how contested the league was etc
now its just gonna be big teams steamrolling smaller ones left and right

I kinda like the idea to be honest, but this is not sustainable and I think third or fourth brackets need to play more home games. even 4:2 is a good idea
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>9-2 with like 7 2nd half goals and celebrations
>first game to finish
Time added on is such bullshit
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>>144503243
This doesn't make any sense. Bayern haven't lost a group stage match since 2012 or something. They always steamroll teams on this phase, this new league didn't change anything in this sense.
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>>144503325
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SO FUCKING CLOSE
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Dubs never fails.
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>croatian talents
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>>144503349
>>144503243
hmhmhmm yes yes i see and agree
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>Bayern highlights take 5 minutes to show
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>>144503357
its a rule retard, or at the very least a courtesy
refs just call it a day in situations like these
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>>144498933

Hahahahahahaha
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Abraham dives to the floor, mad Endo is touching him kek
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gotovo je.
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>>144503349
Bayern always destroyed these teams, its much easier to get a result in England than at Bayern because they respect the opponent and play to their strengths while english teams think they are better than you and take you for granted
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>Nübel
fucking WEW
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>>144503349
>now its just gonna be big teams steamrolling smaller ones left and right
Thats probably the point
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>>144503519
Why who would pay to watch Real Madrid vs. Young Boys?
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>>144503519
>Thats probably the point
But is that fun? I'd rather just cut the smaller ones out before this happens instead of wasting time.
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>>144503546
Real Madrid the team that lost at home to Moldovan farmers a couple of seasons ago kek. Those guys will never score 8 or 9 past anyone in this competition
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At least in the old format there were more games on.
4 at once really highlights how little most of these games are of interest
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>>144503349
bayern still going to play away games against pots 3 and 4, no?
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>>144498933
WITNESSED
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>>144503546
>>144503547
while I'm not as jaded as him, you gotta concede that there were a LOT of goals tonight though

zoomies must've enjoyed the show

fifa needs to ensure footie stays relevant, and this is a "right" step for that. next step is reducing national games and doubling the amount of international games. I'm pretty sure, in an ideal world
>national cups dont exist
>big five has 12 teams each
>the new UEFA format has both home and away games

>>144503645
yeah but that should be a given I think
pots 1-2 play equal amount of H-A games against each other, 1-2 plays A against 3-4
3-4 plays at home against 1-2, plays equal amounts of H-A against other 3-4

bayern rolling into, say, zagreb, is also good for the city's economy and football culture
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>Bayern beat Zagreb 9-2
ready to apologize for opposing the super league, anons?
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https://youtu.be/iV6jknBOCIY?si=8se4aCiZZTyGXdet

Propper old school blooter
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>>144498933
Goddamn kiwibro, checked
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>>144495365
>Away Win to open the CL
>Manure now resorting to bragging about beating a team of actual amateurs 7-0
You love to see it.
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>>144503744
Finally
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The games should be played on neither teams stadium. It should be neutral ground.
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>>144503638
there was 8 at once last season

>>144503349
lol wut. every team has a home game against a pot 1 team. they can get a point from that
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>>144498933
Dubs (p)
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>>144503734
>t. Zogbot manipulator
Next you’ll say getting your foreskin chopped off is good for you am i right
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>>144503789

It's random, at least they claim it is. Also everyone has equally as many home as outside games.
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>>144503546
Well obviously it makes sense to uefa financially, world cup is also getting expanded
More games=more money
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>>144503099
Sporting wanted too much money and bigger teams were worried he was a 1 season wonder. Maybe in January someone desperate will pay the fee but most likely next summer.
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Every team that won was expected to win, and they won comfortably. This new format won't change that. It'll only add more useless matches. I guess the "playoff" match will be exciting. But is that any different than the last group stage match day where you had a couple of groups of death?
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>>144503888
Let the people travel to different stadiums equally but both of the teams every time and not just one of them. And in the best case scenario equally in terms of distance. We have enough stadiums in Europe to archive this.
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>>144503789
No, that would just hasten the inevitable "let's play these matches in Dubai or America" nonsense
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>>144504012
League phase is also interesting, strong teams will win against shitters but now it will matter how they win.

Take Bayern for example, they know this is a league format and every goal counts, winning against shitty teams 3-0 doesn't cut it anymore, you will have to score 5+ on them to make it to the top of the league and get the easier match in round of 16.
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>>144495365
I'd 9-2 be a Dinamo Zagreb fan right now
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>>144495365
>pendrick
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>>144504130
The top 12 teams are going to be exactly who you expect them to be. 4 of those teams will have to play 2 extra matches against shitters that they'll comfortably beat. All this has done is add more matches where we know how it's going to end. If they really wanted to make it exciting, then go back to a purely 2 legged knockout round with no seeds, so that you can get big teams going against each other in the first round
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>>144504284
>purely 2 legged knockout round with no seeds
Kek now that's a terrible format, why would anyone want that
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>>144504336
Because it truly makes every match matter
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>>144504284
you seem to be missing two points:
1. the extra 2 games each team play are against teams from their own pot so it makes it harder for the bigger teams
2. there is now seeding from 1 to 36, where as before you could only seed top 8, next 8 etc. what this means is that every game is more important as you get an advantage in finishing 1st over 8th, which wasn't a thing before
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>>144495365
why is thursday all reddit teams (ft. athletico)?
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>>144504018
That's a horrible idea if you are actually a match-going fan, you're effectively pricing out most of the loyal fans who can't afford to travel half-way across Europe every other week to watch their team. Filling just the away end of a stadium with travelling fans is one thing, but most clubs in the CL would be unable to fill half a stadium for every group match and tickets would just end up going to tourists who have no real interest in the game.
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>>144504398
thats why you do what I suggest
>>144503734

allow Zagreb to have 6 games in Zagreb so fans can actually see the game, the club earns ticket money and pot 1ers and 2ers, aka western europeans, can come and spend their hard earned cash on hotels, booze, kebab and hookers
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>>144504398
>if you are actually a match-going fan
I don't think about them at all. I just want it to be fair.
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>>144504284
The order of the top 12 is going to be unpredictable, and since the league phase is used for seeding throughout the rest of the tournament it means that the exact draw is also going to be unpredictable. It also strongly incentivises teams to actually try in their last few "dead rubber" matches, since climbing those extra places in the league phase may give teams an easier run to the final.

And unseeded draws are stupid, since they are easy to rig and they drastically boost the luck factor in the tournament. In the old format, there are 3 times where a randomised draw can influence a team's path through the tournament (the initial group stage draw, the RO16 draw and the QF draw). With the new format, only one random draw is made at the very start of the tournament and the rest is purely decided on results.
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Uefa giving more and more money to clubs that enter cl means for shitty leagues like croatian one, that the gap between the 1st and the rest is even greater turning them into even greater farmers leagues, while clubs like dinamo get demolished in cl
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>>144504348
Even with that, there are enough head rubber matches that the top 12 will mostly be the same
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>>144504556
same is true for turkish league

gala fucks around in UCL group stages, maybe nets 4 points, earns shitton of cash to sign 30+ stars and some latam up and comers to dominate the league (same with fener for UEFA) while other 16 teams just mill about

they need to give more cash to UEFA attendees and take away from CL. top 12 get by with jersey and ticket sales anyways ffs
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>>144504451
There's no way to have a truly fair competition unless you have a round-robin tournament where every single team in the tournament plays each other home and away. And that is impossible in the Champions League due to the number of teams and the already restricted football schedule. Even just playing one game between each team at a neutral venue is not really possible, before you factor in other stuff like how it fucks over actual fans of the clubs and drastically reduces the income of the playing clubs since they aren't making ticket sales and other matchday revenue from their own stadium.

Playing one team from each pot at home and one team from each pot away for the new league phase is a reasonable compromise. Even just playing the same team home and away in a group stage (like they did in the old format) doesn't really make anything "fairer". If anything, it makes things more unfair because if you happen to pick the tough team in the pot then you're forced to play them twice in the old format. In the new format, you only play them once and the second team from that pot that you face will likely be easier.
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>>144496407
>>144498933
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>144504617
>turkish league
Still way stronger league than croatian one
People understandably shit on dinamo but our league is very bad, dinamos biggest rival drawed with a club from... faore islands
I wouldnt even say our clubs besides the first 4-5 professional they are on the level of the 4th league in england
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>>144504608
they're not dead rubber matches because every position counts since you are seeded for the knockouts
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>>144504556
>>144504617
accept the super league. there wouldn't be a cap on teams from any nation and top tier would be only 16 teams with pro/rel. so smaller leagues would get weeded out and European would be more competitive, as would the smaller leagues
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>>144504741
>dinamos biggest rival drawed with a club from... faore islands
sorry but im literally laughing out loud
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>>144504758
They're dead rubber because even though only 1-8 get a by 9-16 will play 17-24. 9 will play 24 or whatever, and will easily beat them. Therefore, if the first ~12 are going to be expected. 9-12 will walk right through to the round of 16, just like what used to happen
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>>144504791
>9 will play 24 or whatever, and will easily beat them
no shit but it will be harder for 16th to beat 17th and that's why the seeding matters
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who the fuck asked for this
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>>144504791
9th place and below have to play two extra matches in an already cramped schedule, so teams have a very strong incentive to finish 8th or higher rather than settling for 9th-12th. And because the entire bracket is seeded based on the league phase standings, teams will generally want to place as highly as possible to get as easy a ride as possible for the rest of the tournament. If you had unseeded draws, teams would just do enough to get over the line and then give up.
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>>144504784
im more than OK with it to be honest and I'd be VERY surprised if something similar doesnt come to fruition this very decade

there is literally no need to pitch galatasaray against like half the turkish league as 6-7/19 are from bumfuck anatolia with extreme financial troubles while an additional 2-4/19 being mid tier istanbul teams signing ex gala/fener/besiktas players who want to keep living in Istanbul. I kid you not, of all the 36 games gala plays every season, maybe 10 of them are competitive

>>144504821
damn, as a WFH chad, 1345 UCL games look fantastic
coupled with the 1600 ones, I would get 0 (zero) work done that day lol
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>>144504821
people criticised dead rubber games in the CL and teams dropping from the CL into the EL. UEFA responded by introducing seeding and making the equivalent of 3rd place in the group teams stay in the CL
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>>144504556
Who else do you want UEFA to give that money to? If you give more money to clubs in big leagues then they'll just increase the financial gap on everyone else. If you give it to the country's FA, they're probably just going to hoard the money instead of spending it on grassroots infrastructure in the entire country because most of these FAs are probably corrupt. And then if no-one else claims the money then it will just go in the pockets of UEFA executives, which is probably the worst option. Giving it to the clubs that place highly in their respective domestic league and qualify for UEFA competitions is the best option.
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>>144504854
Shitasaray didn't even make it, also selling drugs and child porn isn't work, turkroach.
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>>144504805
Similar things still happened in the old format. That's my point. In the old format, it wasn't like every match was a dead rubber. As you got to the second half of the group stage, there were a few groups that had 2, if not 3 teams that could realistically qualify for the knockout round and were of similar quality. The issue with the Champions league is that there are about 12 teams that are head a shoulders above everyone else, and then the other teams are of similar quality or have enough quality to beat the others on their day. There were always exciting group stage matches during the round 4-6 (sometimes even earlier). All that's been done with this new format is added 2 if not 4 dead rubber matches (depending on the team). Last season, Group F and Group H were exciting, because there were multiple teams that could have advanced on the last match day. Group F 3 teams that could advanced on the last match day. Group H had 3 teams that could have have advanced on match day 5, and Porto and Shaktar played each other in a 5-3 thriller on the final match day, where either team could have qualified.
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>>144504908
I dont know it was just a thought of mine... its just it makes the gap even wider
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>>144504821
Smaller clubs benefit from these matchups against other small clubs because it means they play more games (at least two more) and they get more money. And since they can now progress to the play-off round by just finishing 24th, clubs like Celtic or Bratislava actually have a somewhat realistic target to aim for in the CL (whereas before, they would pretty much be guaranteed to finish bottom of their group with no chance of progression).
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>>144504908
they should give more money to teams from the big leagues, yes. in other words, we should have more big teams in European competition and it should be done via a super league. that decreases the gap within European football because Dinamo Zagreb aren't getting destroyed by Bayern and decreases the gap in Croatian football because Dinamo Zagreb aren't destroying their league
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I enjoyed all the games tonight and the new format so far. I am a satisfied customer.
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>>144504977
It's not the same though, because the knockout rounds are now seeded. Before it didn't really matter where exactly you finished as long as you finished in the top 2 of your group, since the later draws were randomised. In the new format, your league standing determines your bracket for the rest of the tournament. So just settling for 12th, or even 8th, is not enough. Teams will be looking to finish as high as possible. That's why Bayern decided to score 9 past Dinamo Zagreb instead of comfortably sitting on a 2/3 goal lead, those extra goals could very well pay dividends for them later in the tournament if they top the league table.
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Predict the 2025 Champions League final and the results:
>Real Madrid 3-0 Manchester City
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>>144505054
You say that as if there weren't high scores in the old format. Just last year Atleti beat Celtic 6-0, Barcelona beat Antwerp 5-0, and Arsenal beat Lens 6-0. Two season ago, Liverpool beat Rangers 7-1.
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>>144505100
Barcelona 1 : 0 City
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>>144505100
Villa 3 - 1 Arsenal
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>>144505120
But none of those results really mattered. This is the first one that might actually matter.
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>>144505100
dinamo zagreb 9-2 bayern munich
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>>144504785
What is even funnier is that Dinamo lost to thier rival before playing Bayern
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Is there a good match of the day style show for the UCL?
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>>144505319
BBC have got the rights to show UCL highlights for the next 3 years, they're showing them on Wednesday I believe.
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>>144505544
yeah i heard wednesaday. but what about thursday games?
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>>144505557
The first week is the only week where there will be Thursday games (no idea why), and apparently there will be an additional highlights show for this Thursday's matches on BBC2.
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Who scored the best goal
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>>144507181
Yildiz. He scored a beautiful opener for Juve against PSV.
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>>144503613
Not a single Moldovan played in that match.
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>>144506092
>no idea why
Uefa gave each competition a matchweek to itself
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You WILL root for us today against the Scottish menace, r-right?
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>>144498675
Him, Chiesa, and Sczesny or however you type it were my favorite Juve players from last year. I'm glad at least McKennie stayed
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>>144503373
what the fuck is this image
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>>144505100
Barcelona 2 VARdrid 1
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I think a lot of you bunch havent been keeping up with Barca and after tonight you will rightly see them as a title contender
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>Shakhtar Donetsk
Is that the worst war zone in Ukraine?
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sparta prague stadium is kino
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What are we watching boys

>>144514058
I think they've played in Kyiv since 2014 but idk
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energy drink bros...
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KAAN
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SUOMI PERKELE VOITTOON
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Damn this weather in Bologna is awful
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>>144514163
>What are we watching boys
Trying to watch the Bologna game but Viaplay (for which I pay almost 70 euro) is showing a recording of an empty field from earlier today.
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>>144514222
I got every TV channel from all over the world in 4K with a €40 IPTV subscription
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>>144514222
https://strims.in/BolognaSzachtarDonieck.php
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>>144514239
40 euro a year that is
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>>144514222
We get soccer cheap as hell in USA.

I just log into my sisters Paramount+ account which she pays $8 a month for and get all the UCL games (also EFL, Serie A, and some south american leagues and I think NWSL)
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Does Shakhtar have default CL spot or something? they play it every year
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>>144514222
use acestream bro. It's like 40 seconds behind but who cares. I pay 30€ for dazn and I get goal notifications from flashscore on my phone before someone scores. It's bullshit, even paying custumers get delayed streams
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>>144514388
payed for by blackrock and americucks.
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>>144514388
Ukrainian title holders three seasons in a row.
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>>144495716
Paranoia is my name
You know is a symptom of schizophrenia?
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Is it over?
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liverchads was pep ljinders a fraud?
we even gave him the white busquets bajetic on loan and theyre losing to slavia pragues B team 3-0

is it over?
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>>144514624
>everyone talk about it in Spain
>yeah this colombian is making shit up
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Its okay, Leipzig will still pull through for us Red Bull bros
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>>144515059
kudos lad
one of the best cities to visit in the world
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>only 3 good players
Its over
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>>144515581
so many of these guys have been mid for 5+ years and have still not been moved on wtf, maybe the only use players under 23 era of dortmund was actually better
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>>144515621
Sometimes they have decent spells but thats it. I only rate Brandt, Kobel and Sabitzer
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Viaca el Griona, Visca Catalunya!
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No Celtic thread ?
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There are too many teams in UCL. There's literally no good match today. Even Inter aren't taking their match seriously, since they aren't even starting Lautaro.
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Celtic
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>>144515758
>Lautaro
Literally 0 goals this season
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>>144515739
>>144515911
who?
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>>144516051
Celtic
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B R U G G E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCUBDEubWoo
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>>144516092
who?
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awww
I though barca was today
oh well
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>>144516108
>barca
*SPITS*
*PISSES*
*SHITS ON THE CREST*
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SCALES SCALES SCALES
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CATHOLIC BROS

WE EATING GOOD
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i like this new format desu
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I love scales
I love Rod Stewart
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My main gripe with the Champions League is the illegal streams are always fucking dogshit. Shall be turning over to league cup action if this carries on.
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>>144516304
everyone with a brain does. people just hate on new stuff to fit in
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Any links to celtic game?
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>>144516329
>>144516349

https://soccerlive.app/

shhh dont tell the janny
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>>144516334
yes everyone loves meaningless 0-0 games where the players get paid millions to fuck your most fertile women, well not my problem, KWAB
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honeslty about to turn this shit off
all games suck
zero hype
fuck nu cl
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>>144516325
Young hearts be free tonight
Time is on your side
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> Not already 3 goals.

All CL teams besides Bayern are boring to watch.
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>>144516383
*teleports behind you*
*dabs*
*snaps your neck*
*dusts off hands*

sorry guys that will be the last of that troublemaker in our thread. sorry you had to see that, please proceed with your usual posting.
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I saw people complain about only 6 games. Next gameday there will be 9 games on Tuesday, i believe.
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>>144516383
what are you talking about, these are the first and only games that have completed in the new format and there's no lack of goals retard
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>>144516450
id 9-2 be a xagreb fan right now
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>>144516450
>absolute shitters getting farmed

Retards think buyern won't kwab cuz they won the shitty farmer league
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>>144516496
this is a european thread please FUCK off thanks
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>>144516496
listen up kid
it doesnt matter if there are 9 teams or 9001 teams, there will only be city and arsenal left for the final either way
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>>144516365
Well thank you, I had trouble putting it on TV with airplay but these streams work. Thx
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also all these goals are because of the shit defense, worst generation of "defenders".
>>144516520
t. nafri from molenbeek
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Would like another please Celtic
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>>144516520
t. donny van der molenbeek
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Gotta admit, it feels good to see your club among the all time greats in the table
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>>144516746
based fellow real madrid fan
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>>144516746
based aston villa supporter
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Lol Brügge is bossong Dortmund around
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Someone redpill me on streaming sites comments. Who even does that? No one reads, whats the point?
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>>144516779
saaaaaaaar
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Bayern ated all the goals
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>>144516813
Shit coach
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>>144516821
t.pendrick
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>>144516830
better than milans coach, hes getting fired if they lose this weekend vs inter
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>>144514239
Which provider do you use?
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>>144516891
Paulo Fonseca is a shit coach for top teams because he cant deals with the egos, but he has a career and a very good career at that
Nuri Sahin has literally never coached in his life. Its a complete gamble
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so they really did score all the goals of this round yesterday?
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>>144516932
teams need to just stop employing random ex players with no experience at top clubs. 90 percent of the time its a disaster, gattuso, sahin, lampard rooney etc etc
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WHERE ARE THE GOALS
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>>144516932
Sahin coached Antalyaspor where he did really well
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>>144516961
Im actually wrong, apparently he coached in Turkey for about 50 games.
Still very weird decision to get the Dortmund job
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Celtic
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>>144517090
best post itt
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>>144517006
https://goals.zone/
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>>144517006
>Monaco vs Barcelona
>Feyenoord vs Leverkusen
>Atalanta vs Arsenal
Goals are coming tomorrow
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KYOGOOOOOOO
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>>144517039
How is Kühn?
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CELTIC
E
L
T
I
C
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>>144517187
Looks to a good player for us, confidence is building and he's just assisted our 2nd
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why are Celtic good at signing quality asian players?
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>>144517187
Bayern are so retarded for letting him go bro
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Nice.. Slovan might be a bit shite tho, we'll have a tougher time against Dortmund, Villa etc
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>>144517252
Villa got smashed by 4th team in Greek league and BVB is not the same as they used to be. Could be draws for both which would be good for us
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>>144517252
Well have a good showing against them until the dying minutes of the 1st half when we concede
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Cmon engles
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Now Need another Kyogo goal to seal the deal
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How half the french nt cant beat the artist formerly known as girona?
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need a brugge goal
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>>144517394
theyre mbappe babbies, without him theyre lost
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Just cameback from taking a shit. What did i miss?
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>>144517470
some guy needs a brugge goal
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CCV jumped too early and it costs Celtic a goal. Retarded but whatever. Celtic need to score twice. Hope Kyogo scores again
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night of the slurpers
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>>144517539
bayern stole all todays goals and spent them yesterday
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>>144517526
Dogshit, literally j2 league shitters.
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>>144517558
That team would win Brasileirão
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Kyogo -> Hatate -> Maeda
Japanese connection
Let’s gooo
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Well at least we found out who is the worst team in the competition
And they play City next, kek
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>>144502774
>It's a slurpers match day
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>>144517558
Kyogo was wanted by City and Spurs
Hatate was wanted by Leicester and Bayern
Maeda was wanted by AC Milan and Juve

How are the shitters?
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>>144517558
true

>>144517593
also true
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OMG A GOAL!?
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>>144517558
>>144517593
love it when a shitpost is countered by an even bigger shitpost
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GG Brügge no re
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It appears all Dortmund needed was a pacey ngubu off the bench
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how do you tackle the age old multiple-games-at-once dilemma, anons?

I just stick to one game usually if until a team pulls the plug, then switch to the next most interesting game. dont really juggle games if the one im watching is alright AND if there are no bangers you just gotta see
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Based PSG
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club brugge got hustled lol. that penalty was just mean after all the half penalty shouts for brugge throughout the game

i don't mean that dortmund didnt desreve to win just funny that they ended up losing 0-3
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there is so much more rig potential with this new format
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>144518044
first time ive seen this written on spee
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>>144518180
>thinking uefa dont want more rig
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With this new format, financially, are teams like Brugge or Villa or Celtic, incentivised not to try to finish in the top 8? Wouldn't they be leaving a lot of money on the table missing out on extra games before a knock out round?
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>>144518365
kwab
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>>144518400
Mate those teams aren't finishing in top 8 either way.
Top teams will be scrambling for a top 8 finish to skip 2 extra games
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>>144517090
Source??
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>>144518459
Yeah but theoretically
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>>144517219
Big Ange worked there for a few years and got us their best affordable talent. They've since honed their attacking skills alongside similar good players and largely against compact and organised teams who park the bus. So when they have room to play, against teams who give them space, they do well.
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>>144518630
Or literally everyone could score against tiny village farmers. If they were so good they wouldn't be in glasgow, a paki ruin.
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The J-league? I thought that was in Israel
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>getting fucked by a team named Young Boys as a 250m team on both legs into losing at least 30m and group stage just because your manager does not know shit about football
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>>144518699
Aye? Tell that ignorant retarded shite to the likes of Teemu Pukki, Mickey Johnston, Joey Barton and all other players who did well down in England but couldn't remotely hack it at Celtic/Rangers, where the crowds are massive and they demand results every single week.
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>>144518758
I think it's better than not being able to qualify for the Champions League for 16 years
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>>144518820
Scots are the most dygenic people ever, they demand some lame tackles.
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>>144519594
>tf
>tp
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>>144519594
>huehuehue has no argument so self-owns themselves with hypocrisy
Seen this match before. You's will never beat leafs to the title. Stop trying.
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Do you look forward to watching Crvena against Benfica?
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>>144526558
fuck yeah, we're gonna crush them 2-0 at ht
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Does Feyenoord stand a chance?
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>>144527653
maybe
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>>144527653
We don't, not with that Danish fraud at the wheel
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>>144527686
I thought he was Czech for some reason
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>>144527699
Just his previous club
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>>144526558
Gonna be watching because we (Barcelona) are gonna face both of them

Benfica always give us trouble and I wonder how hard is going to be playing in Belgrade
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>>144527711
Should've went for Yousef Oosting instead
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>>144527730
>Yousef Oosting
>those glasses
Never fails to make me kek.

But to be honest, the transfer business is just as much to blame, maybe even more so, than the new coach. They did nothing to replace Wieffer and Giminez left all his talent in Mexico it seems
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The games now suck

I wanna see Real Madrid play Manchester United or something
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>>144527686
That's something you would expect some third worlder fan account to post, not the fucking coach jfc
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>>144527763
The only positive you can take from it is that he clearly does it himself instead of outsourcing his posting
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Always fun to see games at De Kuip
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I miss Geertruida so much bros...
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Classic Dutch defending
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>zerrouki
No refunds
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Remove every north-african from football and the world will be a better place
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>>144527883
remove teams like failyenord piss shit veal and azax and european football is practically saved
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>>144527879
kwab
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its over... Krunić you piece of shit, go back to Bosnia
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Hradecky is too good. Finland dominates this sport
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Why does this feel like a Conference League game?
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>>144527949
Ajax isnt playing
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>>144527949
Because the sun hasn't gone down yet. CL games are meant to be played at night
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>>144527954
Lmao
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>>144527954
Wtf was that guy doing losing the ball like that lol
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>>144527954
based Flo
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>>144527954
Needs a plumberball edit
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>>144527985
His best most likely. Slot deserves a statue if you ask me, but the signings he personally asks for have been shit without exception
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>>144527985
Its the problem with modern football, every team tries to play the same way and regardless of the opponent.
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What is this animal called in your language anon?
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Dead sport
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>>144528021
Wasbeer
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>>144528021
Wasbeer
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>>144528021
tvättbjörn
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>>144528021
rakun
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>muh magic of the kuip
RKC tier atmosphere
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>>144528021
coon
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>>144528021
ρακουν
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>>144528050
>RKC tier
What went wrong for them?
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>>144528021
guaxinim
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>>144528067
Got a black manager
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>>144528021
Waschbär
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>>144527602
>>144527721
Good chaps.
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>>144528021
Os rentador (washer bear)
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>>144528106
>Based
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Zapatazo!
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>>144527602
based Partizan fan
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GRIMALDO
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hhahahahahahahahahah can someone plz just relegate dutch teams to another competition all together?
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Feyenoord looks grim, they will be Ajax tier in 2 years most
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>>144528152
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GRIM
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Boniface what a baller
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Boniface's pass, holy shit
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Based Bonerface
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tbf they play some decent stuff going forward.
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GRIM
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in bum hwang cant catch a break he moves from one punching bag to another olympiacos-zvezda-failyenoord...any day now he ll get this long awaited move to inter or aston villa
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Bonifaces pass bro, Henry style.
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>>144528021
They will never be as based as these chads anon
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WIRTZ WIRTZ WIRTZ
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What's the /sp/ lore behind this Grecian that seethhes at Dutch football?
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Sjongejongejonge
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Back to farming conference league points, lads
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>kokcu
>akturkoglu

any reason why besiktas fener and galata cant just pay those billions they pay to keep the good turkish players or buy the ones playing abroad instead of dzeko tadic zaha fred etc?
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Every goal adds 10mil plus, dear PL/Barca/Real fans
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>>144528280
Is he autistic? He has that look in his eyes, that boiled potatoes look
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If levekusen win the champions league I'll eat 7 bananas and drink 20oz of sprite and upload to youtube
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>>144528299
https://youtu.be/gSaHAGCHbj8?si=RqWoJfE0x_YDfVF-
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>>144528273
>kokcu
more dutch than turk
>akturkoglu
they sold him because they got Osimeh

Turks are big idiots tho, thats why they suck
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>>144528228
no lore just reality hitting you at 160 mph just recall your teams this is embarrassing
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>>144528299
>autistic

Please use the correct term: mentally retarded
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>>144528299
he’s just unironically retarded and channels all his power into footballing ability
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>>144528319
>mph
Turn off your VPN Jamarcus
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Humiliation Ritual
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>that goalkeeping
KWAB
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>the state of this Feyenoord goalie
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>>144528318
osimeme is a 6 month blacklisted loanee that wont even record a single game for them, like nba stars playing in europe during lockout
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>>144528317
Top kek, his teeth are disgusting desu
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>>144528332
its 0-4, just stop posting all together as a nation, at least dinamo zagreb lost away from home and it wasnt against some atalanta customers
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the might eredivisie
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>>144528317
is he doing the food on pepe head meme?
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Santi needs to get out of this shit team. Sucks for him playing with shit
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>nba stars playing in europe during lockout
>mph
Lmao, this greekflag is unironically muttmerican
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What is she thinking right now?
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>>144528371
You will never be a real Mexican. You have no childhood memories growing up in Mexico, no competent spanish language skills, no genuine cultural knowledge. You are a brown American man twisted by self-hatred and delusions of ethnic grandeur into a crude mockery of nature's natural perfection.

All the validation you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back Mexicans mock you. Your Abuelita is disgusted and ashamed of you, your "amigos" laugh at your incomprehensible """spanish""" behind closed doors.
Mexicans are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed Mexicans to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even Chicanos who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a mexican. Your accent and tourist like behavior is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk Mexicana home with you, she’ll turn tail and bolt the second she gets a whiff of your hard shell tacos and "tex-mex" food.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning, say "buenos dias" to the mirror and spend 10 minutes with duolingo, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
This is your fate. This is what your parents choose when they jumped the border. There's no turning back.Copy
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>thursday
>crezenda vs benfica
>leverkusen vs feyenord
This is Europa league
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>>144528463
also arsenal atalanta later today quintessential europa league classic
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>>144528463
Aside from Leverkusen all the other 3 teams are bigger than any english side not named Liverpool or United
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>Bayer 04 Leverkusen
>score is 0-4
Who writes this shit
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>team is named after a pharmaceutical company
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>>144528724
so is bristol city fc
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>>144528724
They're part of the pharmaceutical company
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>>144528724
Bundesliga is a pharma's league.
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>>144528757
>>144528724
okay but isnt the ex nazi company a staple of the city like litelraly the ONLY THING THE CITY IS KNONW FOR other than football?
isnt leverkusen some small city with german equivalent hicks?

i dont remember where i read that but probably here
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>>144528550
Nah, even using your muh CLs that's not even correct. Chelsea and Villa have 2 each.
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>>144528752
I thought they're named after the city of Bristol
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>>144528773
Yes, yes
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>>144528868
Nottingham Forest.
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dutch, bring that woman siswet19 to me. she ows me sex for this victory!
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ERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>144528868
notts has 2 ,villa has 1 and one eufa cup i think
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OH FUCK I CALLED THEM NOTTS im kms
i swear its cuz im not sober
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why is there a cl general
start creating individual match threads
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who is making the Brest vs Sturm Graz thread?
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>>144529001
>>144529023
Start with yourselves.
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>>144529023
not even atalanta arsenal will get a thread because of the serie shit and arsememe autists
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Wtf barça
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You guys didn't fall for barca MID right?
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>>144528724
There was a welsh club that was named "Total Network Solutions"
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>>144528276
Frimpong is an excellent wee player, looked great when he was at Celtic. Must be pushing £100m in value now given his age, pace, skills and experience.
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>UCL general
>no big match threads
this board is fucking dead



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