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Neutral zone edition

Local anon gets My Steelers :) as first post
Sirianni is on the hot seat for questionable calls that backfired in the Eagles’ loss to the Falcons
Bengals sign veteran free agent Lawrence Guy
Jacoby Brissett on Demario Douglas' frustration in Patriots offense: 'Still trying to figure out our identity'
Chiefs sign RB Kareem Hunt to practice squad
Bengals hosting multiple free agents on workouts
Cousins: Comeback win over Eagles could change Falcons' season
Steelers again preparing Justin Fields to start at QB with Russell Wilson limited
Panthers QB Andy Dalton excited about starting again
Saints TE Taysom Hill "checked out just fine" after chest injury
Myles Garrett plans to play through foot injury
Giants workout 4 kickers
Broncos lose McGlinchey for 4 weeks with MCL injury
Rams' McVay: Kupp to miss 'extended period of time'
Patriots lose defensive captain Ja’Whaun Bentley for season
Bucs’ Vita Vea day to day after injury in Detroit
Eagles WR A.J. Brown says he will be out a couple weeks
Report: Panthers QB Bryce Young 'very shocked' by his benching
49ers' Deebo Samuel to miss couple of weeks with calf strain
Saquon Barkley 'dropped the ball' in Eagles' loss: 'Let my team down'
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Steelers suck
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anime
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Chiefs hater but Tay Tay lover. Is there a place for people like me in this sport?
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>>144510927
yeah put on a cheer leader outfit faggot
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Sneak's Official NFL Power Rankings 2024 - Week 3 Edition!

1. Kansas City Chiefs 32 (NC | NC)
2. Buffalo Bills 30.8 (+4 | +3.8)
3. Houston Texans 29.9 (+1 | +1.4)
4. San Francisco 49ers 28.9 (-2 | -2.1)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 27.2 (+5 | +5)
6. Detroit Lions 26.7 (-3 | -3.2)
7. New Orleans Saints 25.8 (+9 | +8.4)
8. Los Angeles Chargers 24.3 (+7 | +6.5)
9. Pittsburgh Steelers 23.8 (+2 | +3.9)
10. Minnesota Vikings 22.9 (+8 | +8.5)
11. Philadelphia Eagles 22.3 (-6 | -5.5)
12. Seattle Seahawks 21 (NC | +1.7)
13. Dallas Cowboys 20.1 (-5 | -5.2)
14. Baltimore Ravens 19.5 (-7 | -7)
15. Green Bay Packers 17.4 (+4 | +3.6)
16. Cincinnati Bengals 16.9 (-3 | -2.3)
17. Miami Dolphins 16.1 (-8 | -7.8)
18. Cleveland Browns 14.5 (+6 | +3.6)
19. New York Jets 14.1 (+3 | +2)
20. Chicago Bears 13.4 (-3 | -3)
21. Atlanta Falcons 12.3 (+4 | +3.8)
22. Arizona Cardinals 11.4 (+5 | +5.1)
23. Las Vegas Raiders 10.8 (+6 | +6.9)
24. Los Angeles Rams 8.5 (-10 | -9.7)
25. New England Patriots 8.4 (-2 | -3.1)
26. Jacksonville Jaguars 7 (-5 | -6.1)
27. Indianapolis Colts 6.9 (-7 | -6.3)
28. Washington Commanders 5 (NC | +0.2)
29. Tennessee Titans 4.1 (-3 | -2.8)
30. Denver Broncos 3 (NC | -0.3)
31. New York Giants 2 (NC | NC)
32. Carolina Panthers 1 (NC | NC)
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>>144510931
You'd like that wouldn't you...sicko.
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>>144510940
>buccaneers 5
>top 5 in most power rankings I see

As a bucs fan, this is way too much hype lol. They’ve got a rough schedule and some major questions at O-Line and Secondary. Feel like they’re getting jinxed desu
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>>144510927
Tay Tay Top Three
1) Shake It Off
2) I Knew You Were Trouble
3) ...Ready For It?
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@Stink
please bathe
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>>144510892
kek the stooler loli won't like this one
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>>144510927
Just support her eagles era
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>>144510963
They're all so good, it's hard to narrow it down to three. I'm more just a fan of jerking off to her though.
>>144511015
That's perfect actually. The Eagles have always been my backup team anyway.
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yet another reason why the NFL is vastly superior to college football
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>>144511047
it do be like that
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>>144510927
you dont like Travis?
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>>144510892
delet this
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>Through two weeks, Pro Football Focus doesn’t have a Cowboys interior defensive lineman ranked among the top 90 in the league. Osa Odighizuwa is 92. Linval Joseph is 112. Jordan Phillips is 114. Mazi Smith is 115. In run defense, Joseph has the highest grade and he’s ranked 108.
>Odighizuwa played the most defensive snaps of the group Sunday with 40. Smith was next at 33. Joseph followed with 24, and Phillips played 19. Odighizuwa played 61 against the Cleveland Browns, followed by Smith (23), Phillips (15) and Joseph (13). In two games, those four have combined for eight tackles and one tackle for loss.
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>>144510882
You can only post ITT if you're currently in first place of your division. Not so fast cowsois, iggles and vagiants fans
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>>144511132
don't worry, zimmer will fix the defense
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my texies :)
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>>144511142
Whats your team's name?
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patriots frisky?
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>literally let players talk shit about coaches while they stand there silently

not sure if based or cringe
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>>144511266
player led team aka we are a bunch of entitled fags and our coaches have no balls to tell us anything and are just happy to keep collecting paychecks
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>>144511266
happens all the time in the nBA
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>>144510957
All the NFC South teams are shit mate.
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>tfw my phone started heating up randomly
Uh, all posts I made about Roger Goodell and NFL owners were satirical and made in jest, they should not be taken seriously.
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>>144511284
welcome to the age of millennials coaching zoomers
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>>144511412
are you the smelly black asshole that posts in /hoc/?
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>>144511426
/hoc/ must be a very interesting place the way nibbas outside talk about it
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>>144511266
then what the fuck does sirianni even do?
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>>144511488
Perfect home for you to move on to
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HE'S FUCKING BACK!
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Elite?
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>>144511097
Not at all. She could do so much better than that dumb redneck.
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>>144511495
Laurie and Roseman probably shoot pellet guns and pee on him as a rib
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>>144511545
Like who?
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>>144511509
Ever since this FAT FUCK became a thing the team has been awful
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>>144511509
great video, camera man moves to get fat dom out of the shot, but seconds later dom waddles his way back in frame
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>>144511509
Such an embarassing franchise
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>>144511495
Sirianni exists to be the lightning rod.
Nobody is talking shit about how poorly the players played in the chokejob, and it draws the ire away from ownership/FO as well. Which howie likes.
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>>144511614
Obvious. He is the guy getting the blame, the one getting fired next. Thats why he is there
The pathetic thing here is him being ok with that. There is no way the players respect him, have you looked at him? How he behaves? He is a cheerleader getting boo'd in the 1st drive of the 1st home game. I guess millions of dollars really change people because money has to be the only reason why he puts up with this circus
Then he gets fired and the GM/QB gain a couple more season because you "have to give time" to the new coach
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maybe the eagles rebound against the saints
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rebound against this bussy
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>>144511553
Sounds like a good time 2bh.
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Week 1
The bright spot of the Giants offense’s frustrating Week 1 performance was the budding chemistry between Daniel Jones and rookie receiver Malik Nabers, which led to 66 yards.

Week 2
And the pair built on that outing this Sunday. Jones targeted Nabers 18 times, with the wideout hauling in 10 receptions for 127 receiving yards and a touchdown

Malik Nabers is youngest player ever to have 10-catch, 100-yard, 1-touchdown game. Pre previous youngest was a player on the 1951 Chicago Cardinals
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>>144511509
>when they leave the 4th burger out of your bag and don't realize until you get home
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>>144511675
Sucks he'll always be a loser on the gnats
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>>144511683
whats up with the italia flag
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>>144511675
He probably already wants to be traded
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>>144511731
His DNA test came back 13% Italian and he eats two pizzas a night, which is the American requirement to claim Italian heritage.
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>>144511731
Dagos are a very clanish people like the Micks
You should be able to relate being from sand land and all
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Why can't we just play against Will Levis every week?
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>>144511776
Agreed bro, we need to go back to 1925 when every play was just halfback dive and games ended 2-0. Fuck these monkey qbs
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>>144510882
>Chiefs sign RB Kareem Hunt to practice squad

Garbage. Give carson steele everything
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>>144511509
Dom DiReddit
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>>144511081
Why the fuck is anyone supporting college football anymore.
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>>144511081
Oink oink paypiggies
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This is a bears thread now
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>>144511614
Eagles were up 21-15 and Kirk Cousins led the Falcons down the field to get the win. I know it's kind of funny because it's the Eagles and it's Kirk Cousins but I saw good QBs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady do shit like that multiple times a year. Just because retard zoomer >black QBs like Gaylen and Kyler can't do it doesn't mean it's some massive deal.
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>>144511776
>>144511788
in fairness, holding the texans to 19 with the secondary they had going into the season seems quite promising to me, give what the secondary was last year. the rushing defense still looks top of the line, though.

also, if odunze catches that pass, the bears win. not blaming him or the other blue chip rookie (williams) for it, the texans are just a top 5 caliber team. what matters is the incremental improvements offensively. i still want them to run the ball way more, though. WAY more.

>t. fellow glorious fan of da bears
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>>144511132
>>144511158
>do absolutely nothing to fix their OBVIOUS achilles heel (ATTACK THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD)
>a mediocre team scores 44 points by doing exactly that

it is so fucking over for the cowsharts lmfao
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>>144511852
Shitposting aside, texans fans are bros. I'm sorry for all the fags during the gamethreads that made us bears fans look bad. I'm convinced it was just a packers psyop
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>>144511840
They all bud, we're just posting in them
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vote for trump
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>>144511892
Nah bro, I like porn
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>>144511266
How bad are you at reading
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projected standings after week 2
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you think that guy watches porn?
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>>144511935
meant for>>144511912
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>>144511892
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>Jimmy G after putting up top 5 QB stats is shit when not under the Shanahan offensive structure
>Mr Irrelevant Purdy looks like an MVP from his very first year under the Shanahan offensive structure
>Tua goes from being on bust-watch to putting up MVP numbers when under a Shanahan offensive structure
>CJ Stroud has the best ever rookie season while in a Shanahan offensive structure
>Derek Carr looks like shit for years, all of a sudden is leading the most efficient and explosive offense in the league under a Shanahan offensive structure
surely it's just a coincidence
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>>144510940
Chiefies still #1
I'll allow it
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>>144511675
Hell yeah! I fucking drafted him along with Harrison Jr. My fantasy team name is 'Lookie at my Rookies'
I got several more rookies but they havent had time to play so much
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Ngl this finna be me watching my stoolers next week
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>>144511926
Green gay is not winning 10 games
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>>144511926
Well these are absolutely retarded for half the league
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>>144511675
Nabers, MHJ, and Brian Thomas Jr have all shined so far. Waiting on you, Rome.
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>>144511852
Nice cope, Gayleb sucks
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>>144511846
Rodgers is another this week who delivered his team's first win on a game-winning drive late in the 4thQ
>7 PLAYS, 74 YARDS, 4:10

Aaron Rodgers delivers game-winning drive as Jets beat Titans for first win
“These are kind of the games you look back on late in the season,” Rodgers said, “and be thankful that you won these because if you want to be a great team, you have to win in these type of environments against teams like that.”

In week 1, Josh Allen had the
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>>144510940
Ravens and Bengals don't deserve to be higher than most of those teams or my Cardinals
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>>144511892
Uhhh based?
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>>144511846
Hurts had multiple GWDs in each of his seasons.
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>>144511158
All in, my ass
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>>144512011
You'll be eating your words
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>>144511852
the texans are just a top 5 caliber team

Top 4. Next are Lions at +1200
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>>144511671
Based bussy poster
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>>144512062
I watched him play at USC, it's easier to do what he can do when you are throwing to future WRs covered by future insurance salesmen than it is in the NFL. And even at USC he crumbled mentally and went crying to his momma when things didn't go his way. You already saw it start at the end of this game.
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>>144512084
The only future WR he had at USC was Jordan Addison and his OLine was shit.
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this week im riding caleb and the bears
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>>144512118
A man riding Caleb? Thats just a normal week for him
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When Caleb gets kicked off Mahomes Mountain, it's over.
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>Kevin Nash, Guard, Tennessee (92)
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>>144512118
Ride this bussy
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>>144512114
His OL only looked bad bc he held on to ball too long scrambling around. Plus they didn't like him
And he had 9 NFL receivers just last year. The two that graduated are currently in NFL other 7 will be too
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>>144512125
It’s weird how some people get so caught up in hype that they deny reality ignoring how bad certain players are and the alarm bells blaring
In thinking specifically with Richardson and Trevor Lawrence
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>>144512173
With Richardson everyone expected him to be shit-to-mid his first couple of games. He's considered a project (he probably won't pan out tho)
With Lawrence though, it's pathetic. He's done nothing but beat the most accursed team in the playoffs (after throwing 4 picks) and the Khan's still threw 200+ million at him.
I don't know why thr league has collectively decided to gas up and pay the new batch of Sam Bradfords but it's ridiculous
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>>144512080
top 3 because they're definitely better than the eagles.
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>His OL only looked bad bc he held on to ball too long scrambling around. Plus they didn't like him
>And he had 9 NFL receivers just last year. The two that graduated are currently in NFL other 7 will be too
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>>144512173
He may not have the right about of 'tism to push through to the perennial elite tier, unfortunately.
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>>144512223
Why did you post a selfie?
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>His OL only looked bad bc he held on to ball too long scrambling around. Plus they didn't like him
>And he had 9 NFL receivers just last year. The two that graduated are currently in NFL other 7 will be too
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who /futa/ here?
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Go Bills.
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>>144512225
ain't got that dawg in him
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>>144510882
My Steelers :)
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I really, really like football.
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>>144512269
insallah the infidels will know the true meaning of terrorist football
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>>144512125
Dude isn't even at base camp
He's still in the town near the mountain having gay sex with the sherpas
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If you're not a cock and ass loving slut like me, then we just can't be friends. Sorry, faggots.
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>mfw someone hit my QB in the bussy
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>>144512333
Go Bears btw
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>>144512333
Go Eagles btw!
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I can, coach. I can.
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>>144512000
Their schedule is relatively easy until Love comes back. I had them at 13-4 before the season/before his injury.
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>>144512299
Source?
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>>144512125
>Richardson that high
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>>144512438
While I had the Lions winning the NFCN, them being good for exactly 1 year, choking their chances away in the playoffs, then returning back to the oozing sludge of incompetence would be the most Detroit thing possible
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I counted how many times Brady had a top 10 defense. It is more than Peyton, Rodgers, and Mahomes combined.
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>>144512495
Now count the how many times Mahomes was saved by the refs
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>>144512266
lol swing and a miss because you got beat to the punch, little faggot.
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>>144512495
>t. yet another realization that tom brady stole valor from his defense
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>>144512495
The Italian DVOA anon already exposed this years ago
Patriots defenses feasted off of weak AFC East teams in the PPG/PPD stat, Rodgers has had more or just as many top ten defenses relative to competition
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>>144512510
You're a eurofail so I assume you just started watching the sport, so I won't blame you for not knowing about the Patriots dynasty where the term refball was coined. There's hour long compilations of Brady being saved by the refs. Even my Chiefs were victims. Mahomes was beating the fuck out of Brady and this happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ
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the son of my wife, not mine btw
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>>144510927
On /lgbt/
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>>144512531
>DVOA
This is a fake proprietary stat that is not used by the industry.
>relative
When you have to started injecting opinions and uses words like "relative" you've lost the argument. You're allowing so random guy's eye test to think for you. Wake the fuck up and use your own eyes and data.
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>>144512538
Mahomes...
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>>144512268
I do now
Fap fap fap fap fap
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>>144512521
>>144512510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c36pIFXBGeE
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What the fuck is a liminal space and why do they scare zoomers so much? My nephew just showed me a "horror" game he's been playing and it's just walking down a white hallway and then turning around and walking the other way. It's completely retarded, like if the Carolina Panthers were a video game.
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>>144512548
"Relative" does not mean with respect to opinion in this context but 'proportionately.' Relative to competition is determined entirely by numbers. Stat padding against objectively shitty offenses simply does not tell the whole story.
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>>144512579
shut up, nerd
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>>144512548
This dude is blind and retarded. Quite the combo he lives with
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>>144512531
>>144512579
>Brady played in a tougher era compared to Mahomes!
But he was a defense baby....
>You don't understand the defense was only great because it statpadded against weak teams!
So um, Brady played in a weak era then?
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i for one have sex with my relatives

go saints
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>>144512601
Brady has entire seasons worth of material playing against the very best the league has to offer in the playoffs and throughout his career generally. His high output is consistent throughout.
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All I need is the eye test, my gut instincts, and the injury report and I can predict game outcomes at a 25% success rate
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Hamones is

Raising another man's children, probably Kelce's
Married to a 6/10 bimbo that is starting to bog herself
Responsible for the death of one person and the wounding of 40 others
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Kansas_City_parade_shooting
A low test faggot
A ringlet
A Reidbabby
He will never be a GOAT
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>>144512532
cope refball was invented by the pats but the queefs/roger have perfected it
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"System QB" is a racist dog whistle for white QB.
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>>144512622
Just picking the team that won last week has a higher hit rate than that
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>>144512495
Brady: 15 times
Lamar: 5 times
Allen: 5 times
Peyton: 4 times
Rodgers: 4 times
Mahomes: 1 time

Mahomes has the worst defense yet the highest win rate of all of them. What more proof do we need that he's the main character?
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>>144512658
>What more proof do we need that he's the main character?
Mahomes got overshadowed by a pop star. How is he the main character?
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>>144512658
what about "sticky" coverage?
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>>144512624
>A ringlet
WTF is a ringlet you aspie. He already has the 3rd most rings and is way ahead of Montana and Brady's pace
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>>144512563
don't care; didn't ask; didn't watch, faggot.

tom brady stole valor from 7 different top 9 defenses.
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>>144512658
>>144512495
>Allen: 5 times
JOSH ALLEN JUST NEEDS MORE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>144512674
All tainted by refball. Every single one of them
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>>144512601
he played in an objectively weak division. outside of his team there was a constant effort to field a competitive team. new head coaches every year, new quarterbacks every year, bottom of the barrel results. you should be familiar with this, mahomes is in the exact same situation. it has nothing to do with era.
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>>144512699
unironically yeah
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Head coach Dan Quinn has made it known he wants rookie quarterback Jayden Daniels to focus on being a “passer first” after a run-heavy season opener, and Sunday’s game plan reflected that philosophy. He completed 23 of his 29 pass attempts for 226 yards, while halving his rushing yard total.
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>>144512754
After that shot to the ribs he definitely realized he can't do the shit he use to do in college
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>>144512728
Are you aware of the fact that Mahomes has the best passer rating, most TDs, and total yards in the postseason history? And both of us would agree Andy Reid is the best offensive coach of all time. Could it be that going up against the most prolific coach-QB combo of all time is hurting the Bills D? Even the Ravens who had a historically great defense last season could stop him
>Baltimore is coming off a historic season defensively. The Ravens became the first NFL team to record the fewest points allowed (16.5), most sacks (60) and most takeaways (31) in a single season.
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>>144512624
>A Reidbabby
If a Chiefs fan was in a coma for the last 2 decades and asked what changed in 2018 what would you tell them?
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>>144512774
>And both of us would agree Andy Reid is the best offensive coa-ACK
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>>144512754
Anyone would come to this conclusion if they watched some of Daniels college footage where he was getting absolutely lit up in out of the pocket situations.
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>>144512807
He is quite offensive in how he has yet to put up a regular scoring offense with Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, McCaffrey
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>>144512014
Jayden Daniels is another this week who delivered his team's first win on a game-winning drive late in the 4thQ
>On the final drive of the game, No. 2 overall pick Jayden Daniels lead the Commanders on a eight-play, 65-yard drive that ended in Austin Seibert's 30 Yd game-winning FG as time expired
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>>144512807
He's definitely a contender. Took Ryan, Jimmy, and Purdy to the owl in the last 8 years. Is consistnely making it to the NFC championships and has been successful on two different franchises. Reid and Belichick weren't doing stuff like that before they got their all time great QB. Kyle is unironically a QB away from being the GOAT HC.
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>>144510882
pretty interesting
the absolute state of bryce young
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>>144512042
btfo, no response
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>>144512839
so love has dogshit accuracy despite his guys having great seperation?
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>>144512774
No, the Bills defense are just an example misleading stats like that other anon was saying about the Patriots defense. The Bills are an above-average to good defense in the regular because they beat shitters like the dolphins or jets, then totally collapse against a competent offense. Also you're being very disingenuous here about the Ravens here. They actually held the Chiefs to only 17 points but lost because they have black Andy Dalton at their QB. The Bengals defense also shutout the Chiefs offense for over half of the 2021 AFCCG so it's not like the Chiefs are unstoppable. The defense that Josh Allen is paired with are simply frauds.
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>>144512807
>28-3
>up double digits on the chiefs
>CHOOSE to kick to start OT in the SB
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>>144512828
>Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, McCaffrey
Jesus christ. All of these guys would be starters on my team. They're so spoiled with talent. And that's not even mentioning guys like Trent Williams. They could trade Aiyuk and not even know he's gone.
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>>144512689
7 is better than 3 and their head to head favors brady keep coping kek
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>>144512836
Go look up reids career in philly. I think you forgot some things since it's been a while.
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>>144512836
zoomer detected
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Joe Gibbs is the best coach of all time.
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>>144512849
he only played one game and got injured hero balling
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>>144512839
>stroud kicking ass
>williams improving at such a rate that he's already better than SB participating QB jalen hurts

feels good man

in b4 that one closeted screecher who is obsessed with williams shows up
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>>144512892
HTTR!!
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>>144512125
>Goff above Darnold
Begging you guys to ignore this engagement baiter.
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>>144512855
Brady won several playoff games while throwing 0 TDs and 1 or more INTs. He even won owls throwing 0 TDs. Couldn't imagine Mahomes winning a playoff game while playing that bad. Instead he has to play like superman for them to win.
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>>144512839
carr.. i kneel
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>>144512898
Stroud is scary, he's so young and he learns fast. Imagine how good he'll be in 5 years.
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already through two games he is making his mark on history as he has become the only quarterback, not just rookie, in NFL history to complete over 75% of his passes, run for over 100 yards and throw zero interceptions over a two-game span (minimum 50 attempts)
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>>144512839
>Hurts without AJB
AJBabby, they're definitely not beating the Saints especially with Fangio's defense.
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>>144512919
Im rooting for Stroud, Dude seems like a good kid.
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>>144512875
>>144512885
Reid and Belichick made it to owls but that's not comparible to what Kyle has accomplished. In the last 8 years he's been to several conference championship games and 3 superbowls with 3 different QBs and on two different franchises. Nobody is doing it like him. Period.
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>>144512839
found this earlier, its every qbs stats vs pressure

Top 5 Completion % Over Expection when pressured
S. Darnold (.407)
D. Carr (.134)
G. Minshew (.13)
C.J. Stroud (.113)
J. Fields & J. Hurts (.093)

tldr darnold is the goat
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>>144512922
I was against the pick at first, but Daniels is impressing me, he has a very quick release of the ball just has to stop taking unnecessary hits.
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it’s foolish to write Anthony Richardson off as a bust yet. He’s the black Josh Allen.
And if there’s any coach who can bring out the best out of his developing qb, it’s Shane Steichen. He tricked everyone into thinking Jalen Hurts was elite and that Justin Herbert was a top 5 qb.
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>>144512942
If he's not careful he'll get RG3ed
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>>144512922
your 2024 NFCE champions
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>>144512839
I can't fucking believe my dumb ass didn't start Carr in fantasy last week because I thought the Panthers win was a fluke.
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>>144512855
Low IQ poster
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>>144512950
Richardson is the black Will Levis
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>>144512955
That one shot he took last week made me think it was all over for a couple weeks with broken ribs
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Reminder that Jordan Love is injured because the NFL forced him play in a favela shithole on their cheap 3rd world grass. How could they do this to the Quarterback of the most storied franchise in the league?
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C.J. Stroud and Micah Parsons come off as best friends on the podcast. Is this a conflict of interest. If Cowboys played the Texans I can't see Micah trying to take his head off like he does with other QBs.
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>>144512950
I agree, dude just needs to be accurate with his short throws, stop trying to throw a 15 yd ball 70 yds
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>>144512961
racist
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>>144512974
All players today are best friends off the field. It's actually pretty gay desu.
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It is great to see Daniels already etching his name in NFL history books, and he has done so pretty impressively over the two games of his career completing 75.5% of his passes for 410 yards and adding another 132 yards rushing
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>>144512922
>Rookie QB has a weak season by veteran standards
>Instant OROTY
Meanwhile, Joe Alt's playing at an all-pro level and won't even get a vote.
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>>144512938
>>144512839
>fields top 5 in both of these
we must be living in bizarro land
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>>144512987
Except Marshawn Lattimore and Mike Evans
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>>144512974
Like many jobs it pays to be on good terms with other people when you don't know who you may end up working with
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>>144512143
His numbers fell off in '92, what happened there?
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the Washington Commanders look to be on the right track and are currently 1-1 with a division win under their belt. Now Daniels and Washington will hit the road again
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WOJ BOMB. HES RETIRING FROM NEWS
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>>144513012
So you don't know?
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>>144512998
Oline men never get acknowledged unless you're trent williams
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>>144513018
I wonder if Daniels would be good with the Bears but then again that o-line would probably still get him fucked
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>>144512062
Based Skip
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>>144512937
I guess we'll agree to disagree about what constitutes "comparable". Reid took the eagles to 4 straight conference championship games, had a nearly 60% winning percentage, winning record in the playoffs, won the division half of his seasons. Not a drastic difference
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>>144513018
Bengals are going to be real tough 0-2 and losing to the chiefs off a DPI they're going to be angry.
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>>144513019
Dang. Rest in piss insiderman
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>>144512855
Neither of you were old enough to watch the Patriots dynasty. When Brady scored 0 TDs in the 2nd playoff game the defense saved him. When Brady scored 0 TD and 1 INT in the next playoff game the defense saved him again.

If you watched the Patriots dynasty then prove it. Tell me how many TDs and INTs Brady had in the 2018 superbowl he won. I'll wait.
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>quarterback gets way better after leaving the bears/panthers/jets and joining a real franchise.
how do people still not get it.
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>>144513031
Idk, Kliff is making the offense real easy for Daniels atm so that he can get more comfortable in the pocket.
Don't know what Waldren is doing for Caleb
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>>144513019
The Arab guy wins, I guess.
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>>144513063
Feel bad for teams with meddling owners.
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>>144513062
yeah you have to be stupid or full blown zoomin to discredit early 2000s pats defense. it wasn't some secret either. Brady wasn't BRADY for a few years, he was a clutch kid who did just enough, against the odds
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I haven’t seen our United Arab Emirates friend here since the Israeli pager assassinations btfo’d the terrorists… do you think he could be… oh no.
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>>144513083
I dont think woody "give babies cancer because I can" johnson, is your typical image of a meddling owner. I do in fact think hes an idiot that keeps getting baited into dumb shit because it makes news and headlines.
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>>144513097
>it wasn't some secret either. Brady wasn't BRADY for a few years
And this is the key difference between Mahomes and Brady. Mahomes was Brady from day one, whereas Brady took a while to become Brady.
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>>144513109
Erin owns the team though, He's the Qb,Coach, GM and Owner.
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>>144513062
>rattling about stats you picked online
>calling other people zoomers
embarrassing lack of self-awareness.
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>>144513124
Happy for you guys.
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Like father like son
Cardinals WR Marvin Harrison Jr. is the first rookie to have 4+ receptions and 2+ receiving TD in a first quarter since his dad, HOF WR Marvin Harrison, did it in 1996

With Kyler Murray, Trey McBride, James Conner, Harrison and others, the Cardinals offense is starting to become very, very interesting.
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>>144513119
sure, but i doubt Mahomes will be Mahomes until he's 50
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>>144513121
>ignored the post and attacked the messenger since he knows he lost the argument
Already resorting to ad hominems.
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>cam newton been spotted around dolphins camp
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Bussy
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>>144513062
Completely irrelevant set of points.
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>Colin Cowherd: "Best QB I've ever seen"
https://youtu.be/N28XTKIVSIU?t=66

>Mike Greenberg: "Patrick Mahomes is the best QB I've ever seen"
https://youtu.be/RNAFAGZlAN0?t=423

>Chris Simms: "I think he's the greatest thing I've ever seen"
https://youtu.be/6SpbaZku6wk?t=50

>Dan Orlovsky: "Best player I've ever witnessed play this game"
https://youtu.be/o5cKaIowtS0

>Rex Ryan: "The most talented QB I've ever seen"
https://youtu.be/vj6TJhkSckY?t=40

>Chris Russo: "The best QB I've ever seen"
https://youtu.be/EmdobsZwUUk?t=6

>Chris Broussard: "He's the best QB ever"
https://youtu.be/xNPaJf8i33s?t=26

>Max Kellerman: "The best player to ever live"
https://youtu.be/0RNs-F8HzLs?t=12
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>>144513143
Yes...let injury prone and slow scam get behind a paper thin oline. Theres zero that can go wrong
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>>144513136
>MHJ literally generational
>Lions rookie CB is a certified bust
5 TD game incoming
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>>144513107
the pagers..whatever happened there
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Why the do we need Mahomes and Brady shitflinging in every thread. They’re both far and away the best quarterbacks of all time and all of the arguments are dead and tired.
This shit is the Rei vs Asuka of /nfl/ which retarded spergs will never stop arguing and debating about, both sides using the exact same talking points time and time again and neither of them coming to a common ground because both hate each other and are extremely stubborn, never able to be convinced by the other side. Don’t be like evangelion fags, they’re mentally ill and their show is literally a psychological superweapon designed to cause people to kill themselves. You’re better than them.
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anyways 7>3
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>>144513154
He said the Patriots defense was fraudulent I then showed how badly Brady performed in those early owls. Unlike Mahomes who threw for 10 TDs and 1 INT, Brady threw for a total of 1 TD and 1 INT in his playoff run.
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>>144513164
GODDAMNIT MOSSAD ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>144511992
>heem ref so he can't see your intentional grounding
Maybe lamar is smarter than we've been giving him credit for
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>>144513168
Everyone knows Rei is superior. Rei won the Shinji bowl. Look at how Shinji reacted to their deaths in the Rebuild 2.0 movie.
>When Shinji thought Asuka died
He threw a temper tantrum
>When Shinji thought Rei died
He was willing to sacrifice all of humanity and trigger 3rd impact just to bring her back.

Rei > Asuka
Mahomes > Brady
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I would take Mahomes over any other QB to ever play the game desu.
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>>144513177
The point is that Brady's amount of "top ten defenses" is not higher than his peers once you factor in all of the context that stats will allow for, not that his defenses were fraudulent. Pretending that's the argument is just a strawman.
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>>144512974
>trying to take his head off
Roughing the Passer. Defense. 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.
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>>144513211
>Rei won the Shinji bowl.
Mari won the Shinji bowl.
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>>144513215
THIS. You want to know the answer to who the best QB is. Ask the fans what QB they would rather have. Not a single Chiefs fan would take Brady over him. He's more accurate, throws for more TDs, and has the ability to rush. Has more clutch comeback wins too. Why in the fuck would we downgrade to Brady?
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>>144513234
>Mari won the Shinji bowl
Nope, if we're keeping score from the Rebuild movies.
>Rebuild 1.0
Rei won
>Rebuild 2.0
Rei won
>Rebuild 3.0
Kaworu won
>Rebuild 4.0
Mari won

Asuka got BTFO.
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>>144513159
>Media talking heads
>Washed fat cuck DC with a foot fetish
>Shitty backup QBs

7 > 3 btw
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>>144513260
Wew, how did Rei blow such an early lead?
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>>144513263
>Washed fat cuck DC with a foot fetish
Who is this?
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>>144513263
You have to go back to the halls. NOW.
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>>144513268
rex ryan
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>>144513215
I'm taking these three above Mahomes no hesitation:
Brady
Montana
Rodgers
And I'd win 3/3 times.
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>>144513215
Let's get back to this in five years
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>>144511675
Nabers dropping that pass was the most memorable
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>For me? I don't rate modern QBs/WRs/TEs. All have grossly inflated stats. And in previous eras the best TEAM won not the best QB wins (usually with the reffies help) lol.
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>>144511675
Think Nabers is gonna be a diva WR?
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>>144513159
Still than not better than Arod eye test wise
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>>144513274
>Montana
Mahomes is on pace to pass his playoff wins despite only playing a fraction of his career.
>Rodgers
If we adjusted for eras Rodgers might be the statistically best QB we've ever seen, but he wilts like a flower under pressure whereas Mahomes gets better in the playoffs.
>Brady
Brady took 7 seasons to become elite and that will be the difference of their careers. Mahomes was elite from day one.
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>>144513269
I'm trying to save these Halls from MutthomoHermanos
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What is the ideal sport for the USA man who hates american football, hates the NFL, hates the Super bowl, lives in a city that will never have an NFL team, hates kansas city chiefs and wants an anti-NFL and anti-American football sport in everywhere
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>>144513299
>Still than not better than Arod eye test wise
I actually don't disagree with this so you're arguing with yourself, but one fades in the playoffs and the other gets better. Mahomes is a mary sue. He has the talent of Rodgers and the clutch gene of Brady. Truly has no known weaknesses aside from the Bengals' defensive coordinator.
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>>144513315
W O R L D L E A G U E
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>>144513315
Is dying of smallpox a sport?
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>>144513305
This is a view based on anticipated career projections. But if you had one drive with everything on the line in any era, all personnel being equal, are you still taking Mahomes over everyone?
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>>144513310
Mahomes superbowl stats got deflated by that tampa bowl where several players were injured on the oline. Now lets look at the entire playoff stats instead of your cherry picked superbowl.
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>>144513315
being an active tax shelter
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>>144513310
The science is settled.
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>>144513336
Brady doesn't get his O-line injured because he doesn't scramble in the backfield and force his linemen to run 20 yards a play to block for him. Those injuries are on Mahomes and his playstyle.
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Mahomes anon is incredibly persistent. Pretty based.
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>>144513336
mutthomes throws picks every sb you retarded mutt
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the Costa Rican has been at it for like 6 years now
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>>144513334
>But if you had one drive with everything on the line in any era, all personnel being equal, are you still taking Mahomes over everyone?
The data suggest Mahomes is the most clutch player in NFL history. Not to mention he has the best win rate in the owl era.
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Are there any Rams players left?
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>>144513378
As many players as fan, I'm afraid.
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get scheme'd on
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>NO YOU C-CAN'T POINT OUT MY MAHOMIE CRUMBLES IN THE SUPER BOWL!!
>T-THAT'S CH-CH-CHERRYPICKING!!
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>>144513374
It's not my fault that the NFL is a racist mess.

Plus now I need a sport that is the antithesis of American football in every way.
>>144513315
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>>144513397
jesus
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>>144513372
Just compare the stats of their first superbowl run.

Mahomes 10 TDs
Brady 1 TD, 1 INT

Even Chris Simms called Brady a defense baby listen https://youtu.be/6SpbaZku6wk?t=50
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*ahem*
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>>144513397
>Dallas defense
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Kyler Murray completed each of his five deep passes for 156 yards and three touchdowns. The probability of Murray completing all five deep attempts was just 0.3%.

Murray also completed each of his four passes on the run for 119 yards and two touchdowns, good for his second-most yards when traveling over 8 mph in a game in his career.

Up next for the high flying Cardinals:

Two more at home (undefeated at home)
Lions in the desert
Commanders in the desert

Then road stretch to start Oct (0-1 on road)
@49errs
@Packers
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>>144513409
>just ignore the picks
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>>144513408
Is that a clean pocket technically?
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>>144513408
caleb williams wishes his pocket looked like this
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>>144513422
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>italian coaches
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>>144513420
>>144513428
https://youtu.be/6SpbaZku6wk?t=90
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>>144513377
But that misses the core of the question, which asked to adjust for era and personnel. Stated a different way, I think Brady, Rodgers, and Montana would have better stats in the same situation, mutatis mutandis. Montana always elevated his stats in the playoffs (and is still the only QB for whom this is true), Brady always played preternaturally well in specific spots where it mattered, and Rodgers has several unironic miracle throws in his playoff reel. Mahomes is an excellent decision maker but hasn't demonstrated superiority to these three QBs imo
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>>144513296
Of course. He went to LSU. School for absolute scum
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>>144513396
so kelly stafford is playing wide receiver on sunday?
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>>144513409
>2000s era foot ball is the same as 2020s football
this is how i know you are a virgin zoomer kek
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>>144513431
Yeah
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>>144513409
Btw I totally would
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>>144513408
The cowboys d-line was so buck broken from screens, playaction, and misdirection, they didn't know where the fuck they were half the time.
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>>144513447
Just like Joey Baby Sacrifice
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>The cowboys d-line
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The continuation of this months long propaganda campaign to argue that 3 is more than 7 even after the season has started is admirable
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>>144513513
Jerruh
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>>144513523
What is the sports team that represents men who hate the NFL, hate the NHL and hate the MLB?
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>>144513523
Fortunately, they’re losing to the niggerbirds kek
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who do you root for in the Patriots vs Jets game tomorrow? Bills fan here and I don't know what to do
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>>144513531
the seahawks
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>>144513513
I don't care what you think of PFF, players that grade that low are obviously horrible
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>>144513539
The Seahawks are from the NFL
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>>144513446
>adjust for era
Speculation.
>Montana would have better stats in the same situation
>would
Speculation. That's just your opinion man.

We have enough data to show that Peyton, Rodgers, and Marino were gods in the regular season but came up flat in the playoffs. They played some of their worst games during their superbowl runs.

• Brady won his first two playoff games throwing 0 TDs and 1 INT.
• Rodgers had 0 TD and 2 INTs in the NFCCG.
• Peyton had 1 TD and 5 INTs in his first two playoff games.

Now compare that to Mahomes who has the best TD:INT ratio of all time in the playoffs and best passer rating.

>Montana
I have no complaint about him. The data shows he was elite in the playoffs.
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>>144513548
i dont see how that stops them hating it
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>>144513540
At least the NBA and Major League Soccer can be seen.
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The 13 total points allowed is the fewest Pittsburgh has given up through two games since 2007. The six points scored is the second-fewest by a Sean Payton-coached team.

Eight of the last nine teams to start 2-0 with both wins on the road made the playoffs (PIT has made playoffs each of last six 2-0 starts; last missed in 1999).

Just two and a half weeks before Steelers host Cowboys on Sunday Night Football
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Kike Wright posts here
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>>144513565
They’ve played the broncos and the falcons
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>>144512125
This fucker just loves half black qbs more than anyone because he's married to a black woman and has a half black kid (also LITERALLY has a "my wife's son"). Nick Wright wishes he was black so fucking bad.

Caleb is just ass. Not every scrambling qb is automatically elite. He may get better one day, but for now he's the dregs of the league. Daniel Jones is unironically better than him at the moment.
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>>144513550
>• Brady won his first two playoff games throwing 0 TDs and 1 INT.
>• Rodgers had 0 TD and 2 INTs in the NFCCG.
>• Peyton had 1 TD and 5 INTs in his first two playoff games.
Also wanted to add, they WON owls despite putting up these horrible statlines. They were carried by the defense.
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>>144513574
I'm a Roman catholic.
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>>144513585
Lol no
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>>144513576
>Daniel Jones is unironically better than him at the moment.
I just realized DJ isn't even on the mountain.
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>>144512807
Not better than McVay
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>>144513565
There are no non-qbs in NFL history who have more of an individual impact in the win % of a team than TJ Watt. Very few qbs too
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Mahomes is just incredible, I don't know how he does it.
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>>144513604
Trent Williams
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>>144511047
>I'm more just a fan of jerking off to her though.
haha yeah
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>>144513550
>Speculation
That is in fact what I was aiming for with the question. I was asking you to speculate based on your particular judgments irrespective of the data. Based on career projections, it is clear Mahomes is on pace to eclipse every record (though to assume he will is also a kind of speculation), but this is not a qualitative judgment. Not that you're obliged to provide one - I simply just don't see how eye test judgments could push Mahomes over those particular three QBs.
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Your team isn't a superbowl contender if you don't have an elite pass rusher.
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>>144513615
I dont even like the steelers but show me any player with the individual impact of watt who's team wins when he plays and loses when he doesnt
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>>144513576
>Daniel Jones is unironically better than him at the moment.
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>>144513636
>Kay Adams sees this every day
DJ is one lucky fucker.
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Skylar Thompson will have less interceptions and concusions than the average Tua game, I can't watch this boring shit
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>>144513621
The steelers are 71-33-2 when TJ Watt plays
The steelers are 1-10 when TJ Watt does not play

Williams is a good shout honestly but the 49ers still win without him, purdy just turns to absolute shit
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>>144513636
He looks like a tranny I saw on /pol/ once
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>>144513629
>I simply just don't see how eye test judgments
We don't need to use the eyetest. The data does the speaking for itself. As a statfag Rodgers is one of the few on par with Mahomes but he doesn't maintain it for the playoffs.
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absolute shit on this bussy
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Open question: assuming Darnold relatively maintains his current pace of play, how many games would you need to see to be convinced that its real?
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>>144513663
He lost Justin Jefferson. The Cinderella run is over. Tyreek made Tua seem viable. Similarly, JJ is doing the same with Sam Darnold. Why do fans keep falling for this shit.
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>>144513663
10
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>>144513662
UH OH STINKY
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Two Monday night games? What is this bullshit
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>>144513683
Same how AJB makes Jalen seem viable
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Travis Kelce (turns 35 in two weeks) has just 39 receiving yards in 2024, the fewest in any two-game span in his NFL career
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>>144513697
He's in retirement mode.
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>>144513697
We saw this episode last year.
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>>144513697
He'll show up when it counts
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>>144513697
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>>144513710
>I call him BM
who's gonna tell him
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>>144513660
Data alone is insufficient, or at least almost always requires supplementary data to explain itself, but as an EYETESTchad I can respect drawing the line on this point.
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Cam Newton
Kyle Allen
Teddy Bridgewater
Sam Darnold
PJ Walker
Baker Mayfield
Will Grier
Taylor Heinicke
Bryce Young
Andy Dalton
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>>144513710
>I call him bowel movement
Damn...
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>>144513012
He suffered an anus tear that ended his season
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>>144513710
i have to respect a young man whos proudly balding
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>>144513724
superb list, cant argue with it because it has no explanation
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>>144513746
based lifelong chiefs fan of 1 year
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>>144513710
hunter renfrow on gear
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>>144513743
At that point i'd shave it all off.
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WTF is wrong with this woke MeToo generation. Free Diddy. Musicians and billionaires have been having sex parties for decades. God only knows how many girls the Beatles, Frank Sinatra, or Elvis Presley slept with. Those girls knew what they were getting into.

Diddy was dumb enough to record it so the feds are going to use all the evidence to blackmail celebrities who attended the parties. Probably will force them to do vax commercials or endorse them.
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I'm so bored at work bros
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>>144513759
fuck degenerates
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>>144513724
don't forget that brief moment of Cam Newton (again, but cooked)
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>>144513697
The New Heights podcast deal worth 100M set him up for life so he has no incentive to take football seriously any more. If anything he's losing money by playing football instead of taking advantage of the Taylor Swift hype. Dude could have had multiple TV and movie deals if he wasn't playing touchbutt in practice with a bunch of sweaty men.
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>>144513759
Same level as the bussy poster, but at least he puts some effort into reading the thread.
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Heres what vegas thinks about your teams strength of schedule
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>>144513794
strength of schedule doesn't mean jack shit
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thread this bussy
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>>144513759
Diddy is the son of a mobster and has been dirty his entire life, there is a reason it took decades to go after him and he will probably still get off easier than R. Kelly
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>>144513603
You don't believe that.
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>>144513790
hes cooking some kino for us
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Joey B
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>>144513809
Anyone who's dumber than Kelce after 10+ years of concussions should automatically qualify for disability checks.
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>>144513790
>set him up for life
as if he was somehow broke before lol
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>>144513809
i hate america so much
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>>144513818
That's the premise. You win by losing.
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>>144513817
This fucker's aged 20 years since entering Cincinnati.
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>>144513802
A rapper having a rough past? WHOA, this is news! I'm just mad this is the reason they're going after him. All millionaires engage in satinic sex parties.
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>>144513833
hes actually 15 years old in that pic
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>>144513826
>as if he was somehow broke before lol
As TE he was dramatically underpaid. NFL players going broke is much more common than you think.
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>All the talking heads who root for awful teams are blaming the Rams injury luck on their Super Bowl season
Poverty franchise mentality really do be like that
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>>144513837
Being a crack dealer and being tied to Frank Lucas are two different things
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If you're going to arrest Diddy arrest all of the rich. All of them sex traffic girls. That's the whole point of getting a lot of money.
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>>144513878
You seem very defensive of Diddy. Its almost as if he fucked your bussy and you liked it
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>>144513827
im watching american elections for the first time its really entertaining
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>>144513851
The dude made almost 100 million dollars off his contract alone. Hes jot some everyman.
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>>144513903
nah you aren't
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>>144513851
you make money on endorsements and he has tons
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>>144513759
Diddy is a hitman and federal agent, which everyone has known since 1994. Since J Prince opened rap-a-lot records, every rap label has been explicitly managed by a mafia. Hence the Young Thug trial.

I'm certain he has no tapes from my ViKANGZ. Lebron fans can't be feeling too good though.
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How come Brady never won the Owl the same year he won MVP? I don't get it. Like he was better from 2005 to 2014 than he was in 2001 to 2004. But 0 owls in that span vs. 3.
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>>144513885
This news story is misleading the masses. It makes the public think this is an isolated incident when in truth all these billionaires engage in those activities. Do you really think men horde hundreds of millions of dollars just to buy fancy clothes and sports cars? The reason they get rich is for the endless supply of pussy or in the case of Diddy, bussy.
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Maybe if Americans would stop worshipping celebrities, people would stop sucking cock to get famous
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>>144513928
Anyway go Chiefs
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>>144513924
Most QBs win owls early on when they are a low cap hit on their rookie deal. As soon as Brady signed a long term deal in 2005 he stopped winning owls for a decade. Mahomes is an exception and is still winning despite being the largest cap hit in history.
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mahomes needs a 500 yards game in the post season to surpass tom brady
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>>144513926
>It makes the public think this is an isolated incident
I dont think people think its an isolated incident; more like they dont care because it rich people's. Plus theres nothing we can do about it
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This is Kelce's last year. The dynasty is over.
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>>144513947
If things go well, Mahomes has a chance to already be 3rd all time on the list
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>>144513635
Chris Jones single handedly closes out games, killing drives like 4 times a season and in the playoffs. He got his bag for a reason
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>>144513794
is that updated based on forecasted win totals two weeks in or is that based on preseason forecasted win totals?
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>>144513635
Fred Warner routinely saves the 9ers
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>>144513833

it's that fucking nasty chili
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>>144513960
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>>144513958
>seeing joe flacco on that list
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>>144513984
Flacco will always have the 2012-13 playoff run. One of the best of all time.
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>>144513984
i was thinking the same
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The Panthers average score 6.5 ppg and surrender 36.5
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>>144513966
updated from today
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>>144513958
Rivers is low on this list. McNabb is ahead of him?
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>>144513946
>>144513924
>How come Brady never won the Owl the same year he won MVP?
There's only a small elite group of QBs who achieved this. Did Mahomes have the best season of all time in 2022?

• Won Superbowl
• Won MVP
• Won Superbowl MVP
• Threw for 5,000+ yards
• Led the league in TDs and yards
• Set the all time record of most total yards

I challenge anyone to find a single better season than this.

>>144513958
Is that accumulated pass yards in the postseason? Crazy that he's only 29 and will probably be 3rd by the end of this season.
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>>144514005
McNabb has been in a lot of playoff games, not surprising.
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seven is greater than three
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>>144513965
>He got his bag for a reason
Because they lost to the Lions without him, shit like that can not happen.
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>>144514009
Accomplishing even one of those things is a career accomplishment for most QBs but to do them all in one season is BONKERs.
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>>144514001
>reading into 2 game sample averages
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>>144514001
based tank build
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>>144513958
i have no idea who most of these people are
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>>144514022
Sorry bro. Caleb Williams is on pace for 0 TDs and 17 INTs.
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>>144514019
Why didn't brady ever do this? didn't he win all those MVPs and SBs? So when Brady was at his best, he couldn't win the big one?
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Someone put a helmet in mutthomes kneecap already
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Is there a bigger fraud in the NFL?
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>>144514031
You should look up Steve Young highlights.
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>>144514036
>Why didn't brady ever do this? didn't he win all those MVPs and SBs?
I have some theories but you should ask the resident Brady fanboi >>144514015 on why prime Brady never won MVP and OWL in the same season. While you're at it, ask him why Brady went a decade without winning an owl.
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>>144514032
nah you are
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>>144514047
Mahomes
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>>144514019
yet more proof that emmitt smith > barry sanders. in b4 contrarian faggots show up because hating everything cowboys is 'cool'.
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>>144514031
lurk more
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>>144514001
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>>144514045
I would never wish injury on any team or player. Shame on you for wanting to win that way. You zoomers don't know what competition is.
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Mahomes is physically durable enough, it just remains to be seen if his playstyle will have what it takes to stand up to Brady's longevity. Otherwise he will be 2nd place
goat
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>>144514036

because 6th round draft pick Tom Brady was an average quarterback
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>>144514047
Patty Mahomes simply because his fans insist he is better than Tommy B when they know he is not.
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>>144513710
this guy was objectively the greatest player in college football last year so no doubt he'll be the next big TE
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2022 by Mahomes is the single best season ever by a QB.
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>>144514064
Barry Sanders did more in a shorter period of time. Emmitt was a longevity baby similar to Lebron James.
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bears suck
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>>144514098
Facts. Notice how nobody challenged this statement.
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>>144514052
watching rn
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>>144514113
praying that your prolapsed anus recovers
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>>144514075
It's not about winning. I genuinely despise everything about the Queefs and I want all their players to suffer career ending or even life threatening injury
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>>144514089
>Mahomes is physically durable enough, it just remains to be seen if his playstyle will have what it takes to stand up to Brady's longevity
There's an old saying that "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long". Can't see him maintaining this, but probably won't have to play as long as Brady.
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>>144511776
Your team has the black Will Levis
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I'd give Richie Incognito that Hawk Tuah if you know what I mean. I'd really spit on dat thang.
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I’m tired of Mahomes stats. Pls starting winning Joe Shiesty
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>>144514094
>>144514113
I don't think you're a real fan of football. Fans want to see their divisional opponent get destroyed. They don't want them to have an injury excuse. When you beat a fully healthy team they know they gave their best yet still lost.
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>>144514150
Why did teh Raiders have so many bad defenses during the Carr era
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>>144514150
Why is Lamar Jackson considered good?
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>>144514099
>Barry Sanders did more in a shorter period of time

how many SBs did he win in his prime? how long has he been NFL's all time leading rusher? nice try, faggot. go take a shower then waddle on back to your subredddittt shit hole. monkey.
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>>144512125
>Richardson and Purdy on the same tier
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>>144514150
>Allen
>Brady
>Lamar
These system babies are always at the top of these list. Why am I not surprised. Saved.
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>>144514165
>I don't think you're a real fan of football. Fans want to see their divisional opponent get destroyed.
I do hate my team's divisional opponents
I just hate the Chiefs more than them combined. The Chiefs are launching an all-out attack against the very soul of football. My team's rivals aren't doing that
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>>144513947
No
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I wish Danica and Rodgers got married and had kids. Perfect couple.
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>>144514175
Purdy will have to pull off 3-4 great games just to move up 1 tier but if he has a single bad game, Nick will plummet him.
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>>144514173
2 NFL MVPs in 6 seasons.
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>>144512225
He's been on the Jags for years. That'll kill your enthusiasm
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>>144513759
This nigga tried to pay katt williams 50 million to fuck him in the ass
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Kurt Warner on PMS rn repeating what we've all been saying, college atheleticism is no substitution for quality QB play and they're relying on simplified pure progression systems that ignore whatever the Defense is doing and that you can plug any QB into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oziXI1ZR9G0&t=2237s
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>>144510940
>Texies 3
>Panthers dead last
Lmfaooooo
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>>144514166
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>>144514150
herbie bros… we’ve still got time
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>>144514198
last year was the most fraudulent MVP of all time
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>>144514173

charity MVP awards
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>>144514209
This is what drafting Jamarcus Russell does to a man
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>>144514198
Can he really be considered the most valuable player if he's holding them back when it matters?
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>>144513960
>Raiders fans faps to cartoons
>Has never fucked a real girl
>Most likely is unemployed and lives with his mom in his 30s.
Zamn, are Raiders fans like this?
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>charity MVP awards
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>>144514204
Kurt is the ultimate one hit wonder fraud. His decline is also weird. He just got progressively worse each season and injuries had nothing to do with it. What a weird dude.
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>>144514240

yes, because he can run fast
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hiding jenny on the 80th floor of the south tower early in the morning on september 11 2001
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>>144514198
Every other QB who won two MVPs won a ring. I'm not selling my stock in Lamar just yet. All he's missing is a ring.
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steve young reminds me of bakey makeyfield
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Bros I just ripped ass and my boss blushes and wont stop staring at me. What do I do? Go Jets.
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>>144514204
>college atheleticism is no substitution for quality QB play
why have over the years rookie qbs been getting less and less impressive
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>>144514291
I was fired because I told my boss that I masturbate to her
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>>144514280

that's fine except he never should have won any MVP awards
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>>144514204
Why is McAfee never sitting down?
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Why is QB play so bad now?
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>>144514303
Yup
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>>144514307
>144514307
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>>144514266
>Kurt is the ultimate one hit wonder fraud.
He had 4 elite seasons and 2 very good ones
> injuries had nothing to do with it
Broken hand in 2000, broken finger in 2002, torn MCL in 2005, hip surgery and a major concussion in 2009
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>>144514204
In every other sport if you ask a retired player about which generation is better they will either tell you the current or previous generation was better than their one. But in NFL everyone is a selfish prick who always claim their generation was the best. You have Brady white washing history and bad mouthing the current QBs despite everyone knowing he was a defense baby who would pass the ball off to a running back 50% of the drives. The modern QB is asked to throw the ball more and are more skilled.
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>Raiders fans
See me in a parking lot and not online bitch! I’ll kill you!
>Also Raider fans
Jenny ~owo~

Truly a degenerate fanbase
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>>144514294

it's just easier to find a fast guy and call him a quarterback than it is to find a smart guy and know he's a quarterback
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>>144514313
>burr-fraud in the S tier
shit list
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>>144514315
>Broken hand in 2000, broken finger in 2002, torn MCL in 2005, hip surgery and a major concussion in 2009
None of those are career ending injuries and are quite common in the sport.
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>>144514302
Go Chiefs!
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>>144514329
They contributed to his 2002-2006 decline
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>>144514316
No, Brady is right. These guys are fucking trash. Have you watched Bryce Young, Will Levis or Caleb Williams play? They are complete shit
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>>144512658
Nigger the only reason his team has even been competitive these past couple years is because of Spagnuolo, Chris Jones and Sneed. Mahomes wasn't top five in yards or touchdowns last year and he's currently 14th in passing yards this year. You know what *was* to five last year? His defense.

The team didn't crack 30 points in any of last year's playoff games. They beat Baltimore 17-10. If Brady won a playoff game by putting up 17 points you Mahomesfags would cry about how he got carried by his defense but when the Mutt does it you act like he threw for 5 touchdowns
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>>144514345
I love watching will levis play, so entertaining
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>last year was the most fraudulent MVP of all time
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>>144514307
>Why is QB play so bad now?
>>144514313
After the media started calling muttholmes the best Brady went on a media tour to talk shit about the current QBs. It worked.

>>144514302
>I was fired because I told my boss that I masturbate to her
I just can't take women seriously in positions of power because I know how submissive all of them are in bed. Whenever they try to be bossy I think about them being fucked in a pretzel position the night before or being bent over a bed by their husband. They're not fooling anyone.
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>>144514316
>The modern QB is asked to throw the ball more and are more skilled
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>>144514345
oh look, it's the closeted faggot who is obsessed with caleb williams again. hello, little faggot. you gonna officially come out today, little faggot?
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>>144514345
YUP YUP. 'Specially Caleb, who is a homosexual.
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>>144512728
Yeah I don't give a fuck what the Bills' defense looks like in the regular season, by the time the playoffs start half of them are fucking dead (literally, in Hamlin's case). Has Allen played a single playoff game where half the defense wasn't injured?
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gayleb squilliams
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new bread please or i am gonna make it very gay
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Why are the QBs nowadays coming into the league are looking more zesty?
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>>144513887
I can see how it would be funny from the outside but I actually have to live here, man. This country is absolutely fucked
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>>144514415
>>144514415
>>144514415
It's up
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>>144514412
this generation has the lowest T probably in history. Actually look it up, Im not making it up
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>>144514329

Warner was already 28 when he joined the Rams

all his major injuries happened when he was 29 or older, probably had something to do with his sharp decline
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>>144514350
>Nigger the only reason his team has even been competitive these past couple years is because of Spagnuolo, Chris Jones and Sneed.
He had one bad season in 2023. In 2022 he led the league in yards and TDs. But let's talk about that bad 2023 season. His passer rating is tied with Brady's best for his first 6 seasons and he had more passing yards than anything Brady had. As for the playoffs, he had a 100.3 passer rating which Brady has only did better 3 times out of the 20 playoff runs. Oh btw, did I mention he had the hardest schedule based off of DVOA and set the all time record of most consecutive playoff games with no INTs. You're also forgetting he was the largest cap hit so the team couldn't afford any weapons. He became the first QB in history to win while being the largest cap hit. Brady went 10 years without winning a owl after becoming a top 8 cap hit lol.

>But the eras are different!!!!
This includes Brady's more recent playoff runs. Try again.
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>>144514370
Modern football is pass happy. In the 70s through early 2000s it was a running back league with defensive minded head coaches.
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>>144514326
They don't want smart, they want coachable
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>>144514316
Nice try zoomzoom



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