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Breaking news: NFL Referees are retarded
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I don’t know how do I keep on watching this scripted shit
And I hate the vicucks (had an ex that roots for them)
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My Ninies
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My reffies stay winning
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Whatever team lost STINKS!
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Fuck the plastic Rams.
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Viqueens crying about facemasks like it's 2020 still
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>>145266219

You dated Chris Kluwe?
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>>145266224
Mai Rammies :)))))
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a OP full of seethe? thread full of tears? im here for it!
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seriously though, why can't you challenge that?
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>>145266211
>pocket collapses
>darnold gets btfo
>want off on a technicality
don't care
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don't care, not worried, still finishing the season 15-2, still winning the owl

the last loins fan i met smelled like he shit his pants btw
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>>145266211
If your team was better it wouldn't come down to that
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>the refs robbed us, it was a spiritual victory
after 10+ years of hearing this cope from Lions fans it is hilarious to start hearing it from Vikings fans
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CHEEEEEEEEEFFS
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>>145266258
Whomst
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>>145266211
Did he need to rip his helmet off in order to get called for a face mask? disgusting
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FUCK THE VIKINGS!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WIONS!!!!!!!
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>>145266261

Challenges can't be used to retroactively call a penalty. Same thing with reviews.
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>>145266211
The vikings have lost to a trash team and embarrassed the NFC North. Frauds need to be outed and your team peaked like a middle school athlete. We do not lose to the rams in the 24 NFC North
Shameful and disgusting
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>>145266211
Anyone else piss in the kitchen sink more than their toilet? For me, I can still hear and watch the TV from my kitchen sink. Plus is it really even that gross?
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>Lions up a full game in the division
>My Thunder are winning
>My Dodgers will win tomorrow
Does it get better than this?
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>>145266258
Lol based. Forgot about that guy
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>>145266279
it would seem logical that perhaps the refs could be given the ability to go and review a blatantly missed call like that or the Saints vikings call from a few years back
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>>145266265
>a facemask is a technicality
You don't really believe that and no one thinks you do
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>>145266273

One of the most obnoxious faggots to ever play in the NFL. Reddit loves him.
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That was the most rigged game I have ever seen. 80% of the money was on the Vikings. Vegas game through and through.
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>>145266250
Why do you give a shit, Raiders sis?
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>muh penulty
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>>145266297
The Refs can never be wrong because if they throw no flag there wasn't a penalty. Simple as.
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>>145266270
it was true when it happened to the lions, the kangz would've lost anyway tonight
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You guys watching the post game show?

Puca is a 4channer isn't he?
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Wait, so there's still only one undefeated team?
suck it
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I hope you retards realize it's gonna happen to your team too
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0-2 Vikings
2-0 Rams
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Vamos rams
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>>145266321
They tried but Trump too stronk
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Reminder that the Minnesota Vikings have never and will never win a game that matters.
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>>145266300
I don't care about muh safety penalties the pass rusher should be allowed to dropkick him in the face if he wants. had nothing to do with the outcome of the play
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Morning frens, I was unable to tune in to tonight's game so would someone be cool and tell me what exactly happened and what rigged stuff went down?
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>>145266317
my packers will become undefeated this sunday i'm afraid
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I like disco and I'm tired of pretending I don't
We're all winners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwUupsi3GsI
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>>145266303
Because if you're gonna talk shit in the thread for a whole ass week and then lose 2 in a row in 4 days, you better believe I'll be there to rub it in for about 90% of teams.
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At what point do officials get fired? How many missed calls can you make? An infinite amount? There HAS to be a limit.
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Zoomer here, was Tom Brady in every other commercial like Mahomes is in?
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>>145266338
Yeah they're literally the textbook definition of frauds lol
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>now i get to hear Viking AND Saints 'fans' bitch about refball
kek, what a bunch of fags
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>>145266336
Um sweaty, this image was debunked. You're spreading misinformation by posting it.
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>All scores under two minutes are reviewed
>Except for safeties
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>145266338
Don't forget they claim their NFL Championship as a real Chip... it isn't by the way they lost to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
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>>145266341
gm
uncalled facemask tackle that led to a game ending safety for the rasm
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>>145266302
anyone that knew anything about football or gambling wouldn't have bet vikings, even the line was a clear bait at -2.5. the only people that lost are newfag pussies too scared to bet before 2018 here so I'm glad. hope it was rigged lol. every post 2018 bettors deserves to lose
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who cares, it's not like the Kweens had a shot in hell of winning that game anyways.
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>>145266336
Dayum he's hot now
His ex wives must be so jealous
And his current wife so turned on
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>>145266211
The black ref was watching it the entire time and still didn't throw the flag.
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>>145266273
>>145266301
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>>145266367
>>145266341
keep in mind the rams were up 8 points already so the vikes would have had to march down the field and score a TD AND a 2 point just to tie it
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>>145266321
>vikucks let so many defenders through the line the refs were obstructed from seeing a face mask penalty
>they are crying that this is somewhat unfair
Disgusting. You are an embarrassment to the north.
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>>145266363
Can't overturn a penalty called
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clean tackle imho
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>>145266359
Don't forget the Bungles.
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LEAGUE IS FUCKED
THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE IS NOW ON NOTICE
THE BEST WR DUO BELONGS IN LOS ANGELES
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>>145266346
There's not a single fanbase that doesnt talk shit leading up to a game.
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>crying about muh refball
pussies
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>>145266385
Retarded play calling an execution. Not befitting an NFC north team.
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>>145266397
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>>145266386
LMAO how could I possible forget the eternally butthurt city (pronounced Shitty) of Cincinatti?
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Refs missed a call and it can’t be reviewed. How hard is that for you Somali niggers
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I would've rather lost on a Darnold INT thank you very much.
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>>145266259
McVay reminds me of my landlord. He gives me pizza and donuts.
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If the Vikings were a serious team they would have tried to destroy an opposing players knee. The Rams were willing to break Darnold's neck they deserved to win.
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Is this the thread where we laugh at the vicucks?
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>>145266219
>had an ex that roots for them
What's his name?
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>>145266385
lol that ref in the background was staring right at them, they knew it was a facemask and deliberately didn't call it
profoundly based
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Reffies win again
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>>145266359
saints fans love blaming the refs instead of their defense or poo pees throwing a pick in OT after getting the ball first
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>>145266414
When and why did he last look at you like this
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>>145266411
>missed
>implying implications

Good evening, rabbi.
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Tonight, we are all Vikings
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>>145266416
>DUH REFS
How about the Vikeks just stop sucking. What a concept.
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>>145266414
seems about right kek
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>>145266435
i'm not a fag so no
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Vikings are winning the Super Bowl
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>>145266435
speak for yourself
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personally i just hope i don't have to hear talking heads call flores an elite DC anymore
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>>145266422
>ref doesn't have x-ray vision
Wow anon, what a travesty of justice. Hey was the gameplay to let all 11.rams get a shit at darnold?
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>>145266424
The uncalled penalty would have literally ended the game. Your faggot franchise gets constant no calls and breaks allowing you to celebrate unearned victories. I hope you enjoyed that Owl because the Lambs are never winning shit ever again.
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>>145266389
Minnesomalians have been insufferable faggots the entire season. Everyone is happy their shit team with its garbage meme defense was exposed.
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>>145266422
hahahahahahaha reffies hate the Queens
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>>145266389
It's understandable that you forgot the Panthers exist
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>>145266459
They are excused.
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>The uncalled penalty would have literally ended the game. Your faggot franchise gets constant no calls and breaks allowing you to celebrate unearned victories. I hope you enjoyed that Owl because the Lambs are never winning shit ever again.
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>>145266435
I'm the THRILLER
MJ was way better than that other faggot Prince that ODed in an elevator
https://youtu.be/sOnqjkJTMaA?si=sqiXNOEPO7p46EZh&t=251
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>>145266408
I can't believe someone saved this shitty collage I made lel but it's true, ACOPI is gospel.
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>>145266435
Why yes. I am gay.
Go Chiefs
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>>145266429
A few months ago when he was on his ADHD meds.
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>>145266453
The field goal still could've ended the game if the aints defense didn't self destruct in the final 90 seconds of regulation, cope harder
>celebrate unearned victories
as a refchad every victory is earned
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Vikings were seafaring people originally from Scandinavia (Denmark, Norway, and Sweden),who from the late 8th to the late 11th centuries raided, pirated, traded, and settled throughout parts of Europe. They also voyaged as far as the Middle East and present-day Newfoundland in Canada, North America).

this period is popularly known as the Viking Age
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If I was Darnold I would’ve simply left the pocket and out of the end zone
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kek we had no business being in that game. the fact that Puka and Kupp can come off the couch after a month and torch your secondary while your vaunted D-line gets NO SACKS against rookie linemen should tell you all you need to know about your shit team

your crying about the penalty is pure cope.
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The Vikings getting exposed makes me so happy I don't even care that my team will be getting btfo on Sunday.
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>>145266387
amazing what you can do with two WRs that can and willingly block too
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Fuck the vikings
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Maybe the Vikings are just bad.
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I feel less bad for the Vikings than other teams that got refjobbed. It's not like grabbing the facemask gave the defender any advantage, Darnold was going down either way. No-call on accidental infraction that didn't affect the outcome isn't worth getting upset about unless you're coping.
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Is Travis Kelce a viking?
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>>145266494
sack differential in that game was about 10 different than what vikings fags suspected lol
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c’mon let’s take it easy on the vikings
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>>145266376
I'm a vikies guy and I'm very sceptical that in that case the call actually mattered if rasm lead by 8 at that point. I remember betting odds though before the game that it was so lopsided that betting on vikies would have been absolutely retardee unless you put in shit ton of money. Also, vikies ate too good for too long, coach gotta straighten them up
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kek, all those fags who thought they could trade for kupp must be on suicide watch
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>>145266519

He's barely a football player.
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I'm glad the shit queens lost because fuck Minnesota. They deserve nothing but pain and misery forever for ruining the country with the fentanyl OD faggotry
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>>145266519
Do bears hear when a tree shits in the woods?
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>>145266435
No way ese
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>>145266355
I don't think so but I remember him getting to toss the coin for the season opener after his third superbowl and being pissed at the favoritism.

Can't find any good images of it.
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>>145266338
What’s with the rocks?
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Super Bowl Champs
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>>145266211
absolute state of the stinky shit vikingsfags that constantly post here
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>>145266547
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>>145266211
Weird how these blatant calls always seem to benefit the rams
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It's funny because it's the vikings
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THE LIONS ARE 1ST SEED! LMAO!!!
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Vikings are going 13-4
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>>145266249
oh he mad
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Seeing other teams get completely fucked makes me feel better. I love to see it.

t. saints
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???
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>>145266570
except when they benefit the cowboys, the packturds (when rodgers played their), the patriots (when brady played there) or the chiefs
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>>145266590
saved
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???? What was that LA traffic???
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All hail the Viiiikings
And all the glory they bring
Beers on high
Swarthy til nigh
The Vikings over all!
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>>145266549
Kurt Coupons' death rocks
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>>145266588
kwab
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>Vikings gonna Vike
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I hate this stupid fucking sport. We're now guaranteed to be last place in our division. The fucking bears are going to be better than us. Fuck the lions, fuck the bears, fuck the packers, fuck the refs, and fuck this faggot ass league. I'm done with this shit
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Do we like Nikki Glaser? I didn't find her funny.
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>>145266634
>he thought Sam Darnold was the answer
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Don't forget that the Rams were gifted five free first downs, on top of all that bullshit missed call.
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>>145266634
See ya next week retard
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My Chiefs won today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_0zPAfyo8
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>>145266588
>sep 29
>oct 13
>oct 20
>game that's still running today oct 25

I dont understand the point of this picture, a minnesota team lost in one sport every week for a month?
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lionsfags just falseflagging each other. you know those pussy scandi lutherans arent here
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>>145266634
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>145266588
>lynx
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>>145266655
Are "lionsfags" in the room with us right now?
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>>145266659
KEK
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>>145266643
I think she's good looking.
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>>145266659
kek
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also noticed how the broadcast didnt say anything about Vikings not having a big presence at SoFi despite being a top team that travels well. Raiders didn't have that big of a presence either, despite the constant comments
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>>145266663
Yeah but why would I need to falseflag when I can just openly mock viqueers instead
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>>145266655
Jerseychad here. The lions are just a very comfy team. They have protag energy.
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>>145266659
These were obviously falseflagging Lions fans who went to the GB/MIN game to make Vikings fans look pathetic.
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>Temujin has to watch a queefs victory
lmao
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It is the Viking's daughter,
She is coming over the sea,
The Prince of the Isles has sought her,
His royal bride to be;
Shrill through the shrouds the winds are singing,
The wild white horses chafe and foam,
Their silver manes on the billows flinging,
They bear the maid to her Island home.
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>>145266663
disappointing post temuboo. you're smarter than this
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>>145266679
Sounds like a rentfree thing. I mean, the lions have been irrelevant in the division forever if we exclude last season, it' always been a packers/vikings division with lions being the laughing stock. I kinda understand the lions fans, they've had absolutely nothing going on for them in decades and now they are relevant so shit talk is warranted
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>>145266689
Sorry if you missed my post earlier this week, but I'm not watching the Raiders game this weekend in observance with my boycott of Chiefs games.
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>>145266704
I was trying to rush something out quick to try and get the GET right there. Forgive the lower quality of post.
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>>145266297
because refs would lose all their power to rig games. remember they implemented P.I. challenges because they were exposed in the rams/saints NFC championship game? then they removed that challenge rule a year after.
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>>145266719
honestly it's for the best. we all know what's gonna happen. i don't want to ever watch another queefs game again. i will boycott the superbowl if they are forced there once again by the refs.
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>80-90% of spread bets and moneyline bets were on Vikings
>Vikings had 2 drives killed by ticky tacky penalties
>rams had 2 TD drives saved by ticky tacky penalties
>game ends the way it did
Lol yea Vegas made the call, what a rigged sport
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>>145266715
Kicking a man while he's down is the privilege of the victor. >We've been kicked for a long time so you'd better believe >we're going to kick when it's our turn.
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>making fun of the Vikings knowing damn well my team sucks and is gonna lose on Sunday
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>>145266742
Based
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>>145266339
So you're retarded ok
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Vicucks will repeat 2016 again but go 7-10 KWAB
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>>145266735
finally someone gets it
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>>145266741
The AIslop spammers deserve it
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>>145266741
Yes that's what I'm saying my dude, I get it why lions fans are talking smack. But if the titans win on sunday, it'll be hilarious
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Cheer up raiders. You still are the last team to beat the chiefs
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This meme will become reality
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>>145266500
the jews who invented zoomer pants need to be gassed
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>>145266211
>Woke up on Sunday at 1-4
>End the work week 3-4
>Dodgers playing in the World Series
WE LOVE IT!
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>>145266732
It's because the refs were the one that decided if the challenge was successful, so they made every challenge on dpi and opi fail, even the blatant ones that should have been reversed. An utter show of dominance and spitting on their own bosses.
It's amazing how the owners and executives are buck broken by their own employees ever since the ref strike of 2012. They are absolutely terrified of the idea of investigating referees for gambling, bribery, or foul play because the refs might just strike again.
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>>145266731
I see
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>>145266763
>But if the titans win on sunday, it'll be hilarious
Yeah...
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>>145266778
Did you become a Rams fan before or after they moved back to LA?
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>>145266675
Reports were that sofi was lile 60% purple m8
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>>145266777
Those look like jeans they would have worn in the 90s though
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There was blood in my stool. It was nice knowing you all.
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UMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>145266311
>kek vikcucks btfo
yea he might be
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>>145266777
Those are grannypants, zoomers just brought them back like they did with every other 'fashion' thing
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Vikings deserved to lose because they played poorly, but that game was pretty blatantly rigged. Penalties were totally one sided all game
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>>145266797
Not everyone in LA has to root for the Raiders
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>>145266820
Scripti Riggatini
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>>145266715
Vikings-Lions is a sub Rivalry of the Overall Michigan-Minnesota Rivalry. It's a very very old and odd rivalry going back to the early days of football itself.

The Lions are just reasserting what we already knew. Minnesota will always be Detroit and the State of Michigan's bitch.
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>>145266828
LA is the most plastic city in the world; they don't root for anyone unless they're good
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>>145266675
>travels
this is flyover cope they're all transplants
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>>145266802
>worn in the 90s though
WRONG retard. 90s and early 2k were peak jeans for non fat girls
I miss so much laying on a couch as a teen with a qt and only having to move my hand 2 inches to go from outside her pants to the warm soft cunt at my fingertips.
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I can't wait for the day the reffies reffy too hard and a player loses their shit and chimps out at one of them.

I hope there's blood. I hope the ref actually dies on the field. That would be cool.
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>>145266842
I heard it was 30% Vikings in SOFI.
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>>145266824
but the jews kept promoting it until they all thought it was cool. I will never forgive them unless I have a daughter then fine, wear those ugly ass man repelling parachutes.
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>>145266846
>Post pic from 2000
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>>145266825
If the Vikings won you guys wouldn’t be saying this, whether or not u think it’s true.
>>145266830
They’re just frauds. COPE
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>>145266801
didnt sound like it at all though. Rams didn't have to use a silent count all game.
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>>145266820

Bradford was elite. I will hear no Jewish nonsense to the contrary.
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>>145266797
Born to a city with no NFL team, picked the first one that came back. No regrets.
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>>145266863
>>Post pic from 2000
>instead of 1999
you're one of those faggots who bitch about people finding 17 year old and 360 day old girls attractive aren't you
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>>145266766
I thought my Ninies were gonna win when I saw this

;_;
Another one slips between our fingers
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>>145266838
While we're at it don't look at Chargers attendance leading up to 2016
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>>145266856
>wear those ugly ass man repelling parachutes

kek good one
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>>145266864
>If the Vikings won you guys wouldn’t be saying this, whether or not u think it’s true.
But I shit on several of the phantom calls on a failed rams 3rd down through the game, and the earlier no call hold on nailor on a crucial Vikings 3rd down, and the earlier no call face mask
The refs very much were rigging the game
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>>145266838
No wonder the Raiders fans are dropping like flies out here. They haven't been good in decades.
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>>145266874
It's been nearly 10 years of this Raiders guy seething at people that root for a local football team. Kinda sad.
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>>145266852
>buy season tickets
>sell them off transplant heehaws who overpay wildly for each game, or 2-3 that pay for the other 5-7
don't blame them desu
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>>145266894
I’m talking about AFTER the game
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>>145266883
*pedo alert* *pedo alert*
We got a pedo over here
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>>145266895
My Mom's parents were season ticket holders at Anaheim Stadium. What now?
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The Vikings are going to have a Jag tier season where they start 8-3 then lose 5 games in a row
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>>145266851
>Ref POV
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>*sees subjective thing he doesn't like*
>muh joos! muh joos!
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Go Rams
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>>145266925
They own USA though
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>>145266913
Peak female is 14-16, always has been and always will be. Especially this day and age where if you start dating them at that age you can keep them away from their phones and all the degenerate shit that comes with "Freedom". Have you met a woman who is single after the age of 20? They are absolutely gone mentally and have no agency so therefore no consequences for being completely vapid, retarded whores.
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RASM
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>>145266938
kys retard
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Are people seriously pretending that Vikings had a chance if the face mask was called? lol. Just lol
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>nfl regularly surprise audits players phones and income streams to check for gambling, not even just gambling on their team but gambling on any nfl team or gambling on other sports while in the facility
>REFUSE to investigate refs for gambling, even on the most blatantly fixed games, not a single ref has ever been investigated for gambling ever
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>>145266938
>Peak female is 14-16
No dude, you just missed on teenage love
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What's more shocking? That the Rams won or that TNF was good?
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>>145266948
>Are people seriously pretending that Vikings had a chance if the face mask was called? lol. Just
Darnold is solid in a pinch or against shit teams but you can and always have been able to tell that he is not going to lead a drive with 2 minutes left.
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Oh, a heart as wild as the wildest sea
Was born in me long ago,
When a Viking-maid, so bold and free,
I roamed over meadow and forest and lea,
With never a care in the world for me,—
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>>145266948
Well they absolutely had a chance
But the more important thing is that was just the icing on a cake of a game full of penalties designed to save the rams
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>>145266500
the Queen
I kneel
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>>145266925
i remember a blaccie boy having a meltdown about the white man because a bus stop terminal didn't have an electrical outlet to charge his phone. that's all I ever picture when I see muh joos on here
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>>145266964
I dont get the fascination, Taylor is the most mid woman in existence
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>>145266948
Its the optics you fucking ape. Nobody should lose like that.
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>>145266955
>No dude, you just missed on teenage love
Maybe that is part of it, but I've also dated women from 16 (HS GF) to 30. 19-21 year olds for about 1-2 years 5 different times and one I started dating when she was 29. Went on dates with all ages in taht range and 22+ were terrible to be around most of the time.
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"good process"
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Rasm razz em every time
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>thinking refs will ever be punished
Lol it's the NFL that tells them how to fix games in the first place
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>>145266938
>t. pedo autist incel freak
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>>145266963
lmao

>queens keep committing blatant PI because stafford is dropping dimes left and right
>THE REFS ARE RIGGING IT FOR THE RAMS

sad. really sad
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>>145267004
This
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>>145266976
That's because you're a real human bean
Tay Tay is high ranking official in the secret lizard people society, a penchant for her is how they identify each other
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>>145266211
>mfw refball helped the Lions instead of fucking them
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>>145267014
>pedo
>Full C Cups
>5'7
>been bleeding out of vag for years
>....pedo
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Some of you little BITCHES need to sit down and shut up. Know your place. Too much whining and crying from you insects itt.
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>Rams win
>Blues win
Tonight was a good night
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Best Football Team in California
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Neva 4get
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>>145266851
Don't say that!
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>>145267036
Keep exposing yourself as a little freak, I'm sure you'll win everyone over eventually with your charm and tact.
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>>145266953
Kek
Crazy how these niggas have more job security than anyone on Earth
What's really insane is that NCAA and NBA refs are even worse than NFL refs.
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>>145267046
Why so hostile?
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>they're still seething
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>>145266420
Nice
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>>145267046
>I'm sure you'll win everyone over eventually with your charm and tact.
I'm not concerned with your opinion, and like I said I date a new 19 year old every couple years, they seem to agree
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>>145267051
Based Arnold
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>>145267047
It’s a different ref. He was to the left of the players in the back.
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>>145267051
This will happen in the Super Bowl
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>>145267051
Classic fencing response. Definitely a concussion, he'll be out for a while.
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>>145267061
The point being there were two guys staring at Darnold getting his head nearly snapped
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Ramsbros, I thought we are tanking? Did the script flipped?
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If he grabs a couple inches lower he gets shoulder pads. If he doesn't grab at all he still gets him with the other arm. Darnold is getting tackled either way.
It's not like a missed DPI, or an obvious hold by an O-lineman. It should have been called but I can't bring myself to care when it didn't affect the outcome of the play.
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>aaron nones was 10 yards from the over under
>sam darnold was 5 passing yards from the over under
>if Vikings brought it to overtime there'd be no way for them to win without hitting the over
Yea this has Vegas written all over it
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>>145267095
They were supposedly tanking last year
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>>145267095
U beat a fraud team then a fraud team again plus Pookie and Kupp are back
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>>145267095
That was fake news. They're clearly contenders when the team is healthy, there was never any need to give up on the season.
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>>145267108
Do you have proof more people bet the over than the under?
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>>145267108
>anon learns that betting odds are designed to be close enough to entice you into betting
>surprised when everything doesnt win

literal children
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>>145267106
>a 15 yard penalty and automatic 1st down is something trivial that doesn't matter when a team trying to tie the game and go into OT
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>>145267131
>so uhh you finna be
>uhh
>you finna be sayin
>vegas won?
>dat shit rigged
legalized sports gambling is like reverse welfare
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>>145267139
>with 1 minute left, no timeouts, 80 yards away, and a 2 point conversion required to tie and send the game to OT

yeah bro, they were totally gonna win
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>>145267139
No, the penalty definitely would have helped the VIkings. I'm sayin the foul itself did not affect the result of that play. Not saying it shouldn't have been called, just that I don't really care enough to get mad about it because of that.
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>>145266763
>titans trade two of their players before the game, luring the Lions into an even bigger false sense of security
They’ve got them right where they want them
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>>145267139
cringe
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>>145267139
if sports media was just hot women making out while scores and stats flashed on screen i'd actually watch it
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told ya I paid em off. When your a BIG BALLER you can do stuff like that yaknow
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>>145267145
Before the facemask, which would have still given the Vikings a chance albeit a slim one, Rams had 5 failed 3rd downs on two drives saved, 3 penalties being so fake the commentators questioned the calls.
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>>145267160
But enough about my existence
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>>145266851
>ain’t refs a bitch?
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>>145267169
dont commit PI then
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Roger Goodell approves of this finish to the game, especially since 3,000 illegal aliens just bought "los rams" gear and (((vegas))) cashed in on the dumb goyim that beat on a WWE-tier league.
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>>145267160
I can't believe these threads have become gay enough to have openly gay fags like you runabout
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>>145267178
>muh deepfake
Will always be cringe, no matter the content.
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>>145267095
There was never a doubt and anyone insisting that this season was all but lost with all of the injuries were heavily deluding themselves.
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>>145267131
Gee if refs are betting against a team I wonder if maybe just maybe they bet the under on other things they can potentially cancel out with penalties for that team
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>>145267190
Damn dude I said its okay no need to double down
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>>145267176
Well he didn't but still got called for it
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>there are still people who defend the NuFL after weeks, months, yeaaaaars of this nonsense
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I will vote for any candidate that promises to make sports gambling illegal, no matter any of their other policies.
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>>145267117
>They're clearly contenders when the team is healthy, there was never any need to give up on the season.
I bet $1k on them to win the owl at +3000 I think before the season, there's still hope
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>>145267051
where'd his feet go?
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>>145267139
giwtwm
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>>145267210
your free at any time to leave
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>>145267235
>illegal alien can't even spell correctly.
I rest my case.
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Now ever since a nigga was a seed
Only thing promised to me was the penitentiary, still ballin
Ridin' on these niggas 'cause they lame
In a 6-1 Chevy, still heavy in this game—can you feel me?
Blame it on my momma I'm a thug nigga
Up before the sunrise, quicker than the drug dealers
Tell me if it's on, nigga then we first to bomb
Bust on these bitch-made niggas, hit 'em up, WESTSIDE
Ain't nobody love me as a broke nigga
Finger on the trigger, Lord forgive me if I smoke niggas
I love my females strapped, then fuck her from the back
I get my currency in stacks, California's where I'm at - right?
Passed by while these niggas wonder why
I got shot but didn't die, let 'em see who's next to try
Did I cry? Hell nah, nigga tears shed
For all my homies in the pen', many peers dead, nigga

Still Ballin'
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I rest my bussy.
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I mean we all saw the vikings get screwed but we all know there was no way they were going to drive down the field 96 yards in a minute with no timeouts and then get a two point conversion to tie it
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Let's face it, if he was black he would have been gone years ago.

Danny "DEI" Jones
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>>145267267
You don't know that
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Vikings fans don't seriously think they would have won that game without the no call on the facemask, do they?
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>>145267267
>b-b-b-b-but
Good goy. Roger has donated a rams jersey to some mexican in los angeles in your memory.
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Why is goodell still telling the refs to make the rams relevant?
they had their single year of success, let it go
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>>145267277
Don't say that about WASP Flaccie
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>>145267280
>>145267282
>>145267287
Based Rasm still workin em into a shoot
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>>145267297
lol didn't realize the rams had fans
good luck bud maybe you'll sneak in the playoffs
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yjk vicucks would be a new brand of insufferable if they actually won an owl, good thing they never will KWAB
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>>145267280
I mean it's pretty obvious, the vikings are a pathetic poverty choker franchise that deserves nothing
If that facemask was called darnold would've thrown a pick six the next play
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>>145267306
Probably a St Louis cu ck that has to root for an LA team
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>>145267306
No Milly?
KWAB
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>>145267314
Oh hey Panama, can't wait for your endless seething at LA tomorrow KWAB
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>>145267315
the old lady?
I'm not a vikings fan my guy
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>>145267267
Vikings lost the game after that punt
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Bad calls happen, get over it. Vikings still won’t win the division.
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What if Sam Darnold ran for that first down instead of throwing that incombussypletion?
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>>145267280
Yes I do

>>145267282
I already said the vikings got screwed but let's be real, the vikings weren't driving the field there
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>>145267324
the vikings were also only in that position because kupp fucked up and managed to get out of bounds on the 3rd down
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incredible script this year, its even more blatant and rigged and you retards still fall for it

nice!
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>>145267314
Go back to Venezuela already
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>>145267336
That throw surprised me. He was clear to run, and the throw was catchable.
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>>145267347
>tf
>tp
You tell your people to leave my country first Johandry
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>>145267342
So what script do you have for the Texans/Jets TNF next week?
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>you cant review non calls
>you cant review change of possessions
>you cant review bad penalties

why?

just because!
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Xecucks we are on our way to stomp your shit in, sit still and hold tight omw
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>>145267342
You're still watching it too faggot
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>>145267358
Rodgers gets the vaccine and leads the Jets to the playoffs
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>>145267358
jets win because rodgers is under .500
>>145267362
>falling for it
>watching it
>same thing
sorry you cant read retard
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>>145266976
she makes great music that's empowering to girls and women. and she's wholesome without any controversies. a true role model.
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>>145267367
There's no vaccine for gay aids yet.
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>>145267360
I remember when they allowed pass interference to be reviewed in 2019 after a couple really bad non calls in the previous season. They took it away because very few were overturned.
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>>145266976
Makes hicks and trumptards (same thing) seethe
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issa party in my city yeah
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>>145267416
thats the average trump voter
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>>145267416
Oh no why would you dox me
My career as a shitposter is over
Gookmoot do something!!!
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>>145267369
Or maybe the jets just play better and they’re at home and Stroud sucks on the road?
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>>145267277
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>>145266261
The last thing we need is more reviews. The thing we need is some integrity in the game. Since it's entertainment it'll be another weak hold ending to the Super Bowl most likely.
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>>145267458
goodell has you tied around his finger
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>>145267467
No I think some parts are rigged or favored for some teams. But there’s no script, the Vikings weren’t winning anyways.
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>This manlet son of a bitch just set the Rams franchise record for total coaching wins while being the 3rd youngest coach in the league and, basically, you're fucking stupid.
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>>145267497
Vermeil and Martz clear him
Never knew why Fisher couldn’t unlock that team
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>team gets on avg 20 first downs a game this year
>Team gets on average 330 yards of offense a game this year
>NOOOOO THIS ONE PENALTY ACCOUNTED FOR 1/20TH OF THE TEAMS TOTAL PRODUCUTION ON THE FIELD REEEE ITS WHY THEY WON THE FUCKING GAME REEEEEE REEEEEEE TRRRRREEEEEEEFFFGGGF
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>>145267255
rest this bussy
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>Klis] Broncos WR Josh Reynolds wounded in shooting after leaving strip club
Plaxico was ahead of his time
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Ramilia making these rednecks seethe
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The NFL leadership predetermines outcomes of specific games to control the overall league standings as a means to exploit valuable markets and entice networks/advertisers. This may not have been the case for all of the history of the sport, but now under the pressure to continue year-to-year growth the NFL must resort to alternative methods.

Evidence:

Given that the NFL exists to make money through ticket sales, advertising revenue, and merchandise sales, we can assume that the overriding goal of the NFL and the networks that distribute the broadcast is to increase and maintain viewership. Therefore the problem boils down to audience acquisition and retention. To dissect the issue further we need to examine a few key points.

First, let’s examine how this began.

In the 50’s once televised football games started gaining traction, the NFL and AFL discovered that networks were willing to pay large sums of money for broadcasting rights because in turn, advertisers were willing to pay for engaged audiences. After a brief period of true competition and the success of the first three Super Bowls the two organizations realized that competing for broadcast slots and networks was preventing them from attaining maximum revenue because a network could leverage the two leagues against each other and pay less for broadcasting rights. So, like any good capitalists would, they merged to create a monopoly on a sport who’s audience had recently surpassed America’s pastime in viewership. This flipped the negotiation advantage from which league will accept the lowest price to which network will pay the most.
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>>145266414
wholesome 100
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Without competition to worry about, the league could focus on marketing the sport to as broad an audience as possible. They used and continue to use a number of profitable methods to do this.

Encouraging rivalry between neighboring teams would increase viewership percentages for a region. This utilizes memetic distribution of an idea - you hate the bears because your dad despises the bears, and he hates the bears because someone he respected at an impressionable age disliked the bears, this chain continues until you get back to its source which could have been as simple as calling a match a rivalry which upset a fan when their team lost to the bears. Each progression of the idea becomes more polarized as it passes on. Like a psychological game of telephone. Imagine how easy it would be to start that chain of events if you understood the process and were working in a long term scale.

Licensing apparel and aggressively marketing it turned the cost of advertising a team into a revenue source by convincing people to pay to wear what is essentially a billboard. (think “wear your team jersey to work on game days,” advertisements showing people wearing jerseys at home to watch a game, getting celebrities to wear licensed apparel, etc)

Traditional channels are effective and easy as well. Now consider that since networks have already shelled out large sums of money for distribution rights, the pressure of obtaining views is on their shoulders. The networks will advertise of their own volition to make their investment worthwhile and attract more companies to advertise during games. This same pressure of engaging audiences is what lead to the development of the technologies used to overlay line of scrimmage and first down overlays, so there are positive effects to this process as well.
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>>145267552
>>145267561
TL;DR
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why do the rams always get away with this shit
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Now, fast forward a few decades and you reach the product maturity phase of the NFL. The Super Bowl is a huge national event, team loyalty is solid, but the spectacle is beginning to fade and ratings and audience is showing the decline.

What options are available? More traditional promotion, but this increases costs. More distribution, we’ve seen this attempted with more ways to watch games including streaming services and mobile broadcasting. This is incrementally successful, but has diminishing returns as you lose the ability to sell exclusive broadcasting rights. Attempt to shift cultural trends in your favor. We don’t need to put on our tinfoil hats to show that the fantasy football craze is a direct result of distribution networks attempting to increase engagement. The League -comedy show centralized around fantasy football for those unaware- was developed by FX which is owned by the Fox Group which has heavy investments in the NFL. The show had a statistically significant effect on the participation in fantasy leagues. ESPN was quick to jump into the mix and facilitate the trend. The increased engagement helps, but doesn’t solve a decaying audience, and more importantly is a fairly recent move. So what’s left? Make the games more exciting to watch. So we use our marketing prowess to find out what people like to see, what makes them watch until the play clock expires? Drama. 4th quarter comebacks, big hits, Hail Mary’s, and game saving field goals.
Natural competition only works to an extent, and is unreliable. You’ve got the most talented players in the world playing against the most talented players in the world. Their job is to prevent those kind of plays from happening, and left to their own competitive talents would be exceptionally rare to see. Playbooks are developed over decades to attack and defend against the opposition in every conceivable situation. If left alone, the teams would have a rock solid defense to every move the offense made.
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>>145267564
>tl, can't read
kwaforeigner
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Cuccky Queens Status???
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Offense and defenses are set against each other in strategic ways to allow for an artificial advantage that these exceptionally skilled players will naturally exploit. Just by aligning the teams in the right way these calls can with high probability produce the desired outcome, and if the play doesn’t go the right way you throw a flag. Bad calls and controversial flags drive drama, and reviews give an additional commercial break opportunity.

The NFL can now, with computational methods, model and predict how every defensive play will affect every offensive play and call both side’s strategy to allow the natural talent of the football players to work in their favor. Instead of bringing every person in the league on board, you only need to have cooperation from the team leadership.

Why? As stated, it increases drama but it has secondary and tertiary benefits as well. Using market research the NFL could target specific high value markets to increase merchandise and ticket sales.

Why haven’t the Lions done well in years? Because their fan base is in an economic trend towards lower income.

Why are the patriots and broncos winning so consistently? Those are economic boom markets.

What about the Packers, Wisconsin isn’t thriving but that team does well. Their fan base is ravenous and will scoop up tickets and merchandise as long as they have celebrity players and a moderate amount of success. They don’t have to win the Super Bowl for packer-mania to kick in.

Which teams win becomes an opportunity cost problem done at the top levels.

If the Giants win, how many jerseys sell? What about the Patriots? Let’s put a player in national spotlight, their team’s merch sales are slacking. What market is more valuable? That team wins.
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>>145267565
>>145267565
cause you touch men at night homo
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>>145266500
literally nothing there to speak of. its like she's specifically trying to have zero ass.
travis is truly a shell of a man... she has siphoned his spirit
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>>145267585
Why are you fantasizing about that anon touching other men?
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>>145267596
because in his homeland of guatemala, men rape boys, like he was, and it is considered normal.
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>>145267596
>projecting this hard
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the outcome that causes the MAXIMUM SEETHE is always the based reffies job to call (not call) KEK

REFFIES STAY WINNING
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>>145267603
>projection
You're the one who brought it up to begin with
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>>145267585
the only men you touch is yourself
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>>145267047
>worse
kek
sad you out hope in an ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS

LITERALLY MARVEL CUCCK TIER KEK
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why is your homosex boyfriend suddenly sticking up for you anon lol tell him to leave me alone
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>>145266948
based pro fisherman
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youngCHAD still runs this genny dont forget
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>t-t-t-they are s-s-ss-ething! Meanwhile, I just spent my 7/11 paycheck on my new puka jersey. Can't wait to wear another man's name on my back on Sundays!
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>>145267617
Next time don't make a gay post
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>>145266338
MINISOMALIA IS AN ETERNAL CUCCKSHED

DILLY DILLY FUCK MILLIE
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>>145267552
>>145267561
didn't read
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>>145267633
feel free to leave at any time
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pray the frauds get exposed
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>>145267648
>f-feel free to leave a-anytime
You said that already. Try another line, good goy.
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>>145267666
the devil is a lie
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>>145267645
>t. philly phaggot that works 15 hours/week at a toll booth for his weekly crack rocks
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>>145267675
imagine if the (((LA Rams))) the future hosts of the (((olympics))) went irrelevant before the event.
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>>145267617
>tranime
>complaining about homosexual behavior
Do you literally have no sense of self-awareness?
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Kek
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>>145267666
I mean u watch the nfl too, there’s no script if that’s what u think, dumb nigger
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THEY NOT LIKE US
>THEY NOT LIKE US
THEY NOT LIKE US
>THEY NOT LIKE US
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reminder that all nfl refs have homes and families and this info can usually be researched and identified. send them letters of disapproval or whatever you think suffices.
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>be WR
>get shot
Very odd phenomenon this season
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>>145267684
>Rules make things illegal and therefore no one engages in said conduct
Kek
Only fags get caught
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>>145267552
>The NFL leadership predetermines outcomes of specific games to control the overall league standings as a means to exploit valuable markets and entice networks/advertisers
This is retarded and you're a retard.
And really there is only one thing I need to say to prove that you're a retard and the NFL is absolutely not rigged. That thing is: Jimmy Haslam.
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>>145267684
>they made a law 60 years ago, so it's definitely followed and enforced!
kwab
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>>145267694
or you could stop being pussy and just take the L
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>>145267605
basado
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>>145267709
That’s how I look at my food in the microwave
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>>145267565
rams and zebras making the two whiniest fanbases cry. what a powerful animal duo
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>>145267694
Refs have their own fansite
https://www.footballzebras.com/
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Look, Vikings will win against the Colts so relax.
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>>145267705
I don't play football, and neither do you, so there is no W or L to be hand here.
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>>145267702
>n-n-no u
kwab, keep sucking NuFL cock.
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>>145267703
>>145267698
There is no grand conspiracy coming down from the top to rig NFL games.
The mere suggestion is a hilariously poor person idea of how things run because it's now common for poor low IQ yokels to distrust authority and establishment, thus everything is rigged against them from the top. As if they're systematically oppressed.

The mere suggestion the NFL is laughable, it'd be talking about a conspiracy that goes so far up not even all the owners are in on the conspiracy.
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>>145267722
I play with my balls, does that count?
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>>145267729
>Can't refute what I've said at all
KAWB IAYC
Jimmy Haslam proves the league isn't rigged.
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Why have the lions become the most unlikable team in the league now?
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>>145267730
>t. sheeple
Bet you thought Diddy and Epstein were conspiracies before they exploded
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>>145267737
Mmm, what a good little goy, keep chugging that NuFL cock.
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>>145267745
>>145267743
>Ignoring the direct refutable evidence the league isn't rigged
>More unrelated NFL buzzwords
You don't watch the sport. IAYC and until you can refute Jimmy Haslam you have no argument.
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>>145267730
1 shekel has been deposited in your good goyim account.
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>>145267752
>Still not address the Jimmy Haslam elephant
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>>145267751
Yeah, there's a good goy. Keep spouting the same good goy nonsense.
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>>145267752
>>145267745
Is it scripted or leaned toward one team with certain calls that’s favored by the NFL/refs? What are you getting at?
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>>145267742
>Cursed franchise that has won nothing and think they’re the shit plus contrarians/hipsters rooting for them
>Likable
They’re not the top but they’re certainly over there
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>>145267758
You haven't addressed the fact the league cannot be rigged because Jimmy Haslam.
You seem to have zero argument and keep repeating "LALAALALAALA IM RIGHT I CANT HEAR YOU" while going through a bout of tourettes. I understand mental illness makes understanding the sport hard for you, but if you want anybody to take you seriously you'd have to explain how the league is rigged when Jimmy Haslam exists.
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refs are based
they get paid an impressive salary and get to piss off millions of Americans every Sunday, act smug about it, cause g*mblers to commit crimes and seppuku, are immunized from criticism from any player, owner, or coach, and contribute to the acceleration of general decay and disorder.
you only hate them because you're jealous that they get paid to ruin peoples' lives and cause chaos
they have more power over what happens in any game than any player or coach, the refs have the final decision. reffies have the power to make any play, be it ever so impressive and memorable, not count due to arbitrary wishy-washy rules that are selectively enforced.
they ruin careers. they make careers, ultimately it doesn't actually matter how much you pay your qb, wrs, defensive stars, or anything else, or who your coach is. all that matters is gaining favor with the refs, the most POWERFUL men on the field. you are the final authority and your arbitrary and selective judgment is ultimately the only important facet of the game. if a player or coach complains about your officiating, they get FINED for daring to question your authority.
imagine being an nfl ref, knowing you're getting paid a handsome wage to fuck with the lives of millionaire freak athletes and multibillionaire jew owners, not to mention the lives of millions of fans and gamblers. that must be an immensely powerful feeling, hell of an ego trip.
literally nothing else matters.
tim boyle or bryce young could win 20 consecutive super bowls if the reffies really wanted them to. player skill doesn't matter. coaching doesn't matter. money doesn't matter. culture doesn't matter. all that matters is appeasing the refGODS.
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>>145267765
Chill out dude I’m sure Jimmy is going to read this
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>>145267742
Aside from the teams I already hate because of my team's history and rivals I don't hate the Lions. Yet anyway. A lot of anons don't know the Rams and Vikings fucking hate each other.
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>>145267777
checked and based
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>>145267778
Who cares if he reads it. His existence in itself confirms that the league isn't rigged.
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If it was rigged to the level u guys claim or scripted then Aaron Rodgers or AB would’ve came out and said it
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>>145267795
Why, out of curiosity
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>>145267798
If those retards say it’s rigged then it definitely isn’t
They probably think the earth is flat
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>>145267810
This is cope.
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>>145267798
The thing is that Reffies are actually a legitimate NFL team and I don't think even the NFL controls their actions
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>>145267813
So you believe in AB and Rodgers conspiracies?
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>>145267765
ok...and?
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refs are so powerful that my geriatric mom could win a super bowl if the refs wanted her to, and she's dead.
everything is fake. this sport is fake. the money is fake. it doesnt matter how much you pay Deshaun Rapeson or any other "star" qb if he has not found favor with the refs, you will get nothing.
it's all fake
the players are fake.
the coaching is fake.
the money is fake.
the PLAYS are fake.
the only "real" things are injuries and ref dominance.
every single impressive or memorable play you can ever remember could have been nullified by the refs if they so desired, they merely decided to allow them to occur.
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>>145267818
No, but your logic doesn’t make any sense. Rodgers is right about 9/11 though.
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>>145267818
>CTE retard
>40 something year old single guy who loves psychedelics and blows every relationship with women because he's probably gay
Even if they did say something I'd be skeptical
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>>145267828
don't be a rulesfag and make a sport have a novels worth of rules and this won't be an issue because they won't have the power lol. really simple. you got that nation of laws and not men motto in your head and don't realize lawyers just run the show when you do that
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>>145267803
The Deshaun Watson trade.
Its a move that A. Pissed off every other owner in the league by offering fully guaranteed money, and B. Is a move that Jimmy Haslam only makes in a world where he legitimately believes that Deshaun Watson is the final piece between him, and glory for the entire city of Cleveland, and bragging rights over the 31 other billionaires in the game.

If the game was rigged, with predetermined outcomes for matchups, there is not a singular world where Haslam deals with the straight up embarrassment and egg on his face that was the Deshaun Watson trade, the outcome of his miserable play there and the culmination of that acl snap. It was a desperation move, using desperation tactics on a guy who was radioactive that pissed everyone off.

Its going to go down as one of the worst in NFL history. Idk if you can call it worse than the walker trade but it's up there.

Of course than you can go into some trirade mental gymnastics about le forced humiliation ritual for a multibillionaire, or say how it's actually a secret cabal within the cabal and not all the owners are in on it and they're punishing Haslam for the fully guaranteed deal but thats all just going further down the mentally unstable gymnasium rabbit hole.

A guy who knows the league is rigged and his franchise is never going to win a Superbowl isn't going to turn himself into a jester to get shat on by the public and give them 240million guaranteed.

That's just bad business. There's better ways to generate a headline for engagement.
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>>145267832
You’re the one that inferred they were some sort of voice of truth kek
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that's ultimately what football is. it isn't about the guys throwing themselves at the guy who has the ball before he crosses into their endzone. it isn't about the money, nor is it about the drive, work ethic, physical gifts, talents, or anything else. football is simply what the reffies will ALLOW to happen.
football is about rules. football is about selective and unpredictable enforcement of these rules that can be violated and ignored at the drop of a hat whenever a reffie deems is an appropriate moment to do so.
football is about refs throwing flags at player's EYES and BLINDING THEM because they truly give no fucks and are basically telling you that they are the real stars of the show.
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>>145267843
The schizo is obviously trolling but your logic is just as schizo as his
Congrats
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My team sucks
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>>145267846
If they’re being skeptics like you and then they come out and say it, then by default you should believe them, you’re always parroting a conspiracy. Everyone or most people know there are favorable calls, rigged games to help one team, but not at the rate or level you guys claim.
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>>145267817
the only issue I have with refs is they shouldn't have a union. law/rule enforcement in any form never should
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>>145267858
And this isn’t schizo? -> >>145267848
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>>145267864
MLB has that problem too, I'm sure other sports do too. Reffies are the unelected politicians of the sports world
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>>145267858
>Its schizo to say a billionaire isn't going to give away 1/4th of a billion dollars for free to a serial rapist unless they think the serial rapist is going to offer something back

Lmfao holy shit get your eyes checked you fucking mentally ill retard. If the game was rigged top to bottom there's no point for Haslam to do any of that when some random shitter from the next draft could outperform Watson.

You're so far gone down the rabbit hole you can't justify the most rational behavior.

Occams razor fucking learn it
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>>145267863
Why would I believe what someone with CTE and a homosexual aids ridden ayahuasca smoking bum have to say about anything?
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your team doesn't suck.
the refs just hate them.
no team is actually good or bad.
the quality of the onfield product is of little consequence. ultimately the refs have the final say in EVERYTHING.
>>145267869
call me a schizo all you want but i'm completely right and you haven't actually provided anything that suggests that my opinions are flawed or inaccurate. peak sunk cost fallacy.
i am afraid you have contracted severe stockholm syndrome with roger goodell, and that's why you unironically think anything that happens in a team's roster has any real value.
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>>145267883
Well if they come out and say that just like you on here, then that must mean you have CTE, and Gay aids since your brains run the same right?
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>>145267894
>if
I accept your concession
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>>145267890
Real life isn't a videogame you retard. The on field play isn't some simulation scripted for predetermined outcomes.

Saying the field on the play doesn't matter because a flag worth 1/20th of what the average production an NFL team puts out gets called is retarded

Maybe your team shouldve done more than have a 1 first down 15 yard lead :^)
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>>145267876
even assuming every ref is a well intentioned angel and giving them the benefit of the doubt from the competency aspect alone too many hang around. basically none of them lose a job for it. at the absolute minimum the bottom 10% should be getting canned every year. helps take care of bad actors if there are any anyway without expressly looking for it too
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>>145267877
>senile retard idiot nepobabby boomer billionaire who never worked a day in his life for his opulence doesn't understand the value of money and is incapable of making rational decisions with it
WOW!!!!!! THIS MEANS THE NFL ISN'T RIGGED GUYS!
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>>145267907
Kek
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>>145267907
>It's rigged all 32 owners put on sports entertainment that the outcome is determined of years prior to the season even playing
>"Okay than why did this owner make this roster move that'd make zero sense if the outcome was predetermined and he knew they'd never win with the player that 31 other owners expressively called him out on
>NO NO NOOO NOOOOO NOOO U DO NOT GET IT SENILE BOOMER BILLIONAIRE RETADDED WITH MONEY NFL IS RIGGED ENGAGEMENT MONEY PRINTER THAT OWNERS RIG FOR MAXIMUM PROFIT BUT SENILE TRUCKY TRUCK LEAKY HASLAM BOOM BOOM BOOMERED OVER THE GOONSPIRACY

Lol, it's really not worth engaging with people like you.
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>>145267926
Your brain is literally too small to understand how this works
Let the adults talk
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>>145267904
you know how professional wrestling fans at least have the sense to understand that the product they love is fake and scripted, but they enjoy it anyway and they will tell you all of this?
wrestling is theatre.
football is theatre.
absolutely everything except for injuries is predetermined.
nfl fags just have a worse case of stockholm syndrome than professional wrestling fans, which causes them to outright deny reality, such as this specimen for instance >>145267926
i'm not saying that you should stop watching football. if you enjoy the nfl, which is literally one of the last bastions of theater, even after understanding my argument, that's cool. but professional wrestling fans at least live in reality and i hope you can one day aspire to acquire a similar degree of intelligence as that displayed by an average professional wrestling fan
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>>145267905
What's fucking gay is they all have their own source of income outside of being refs. Reffing is literally their side job.
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Soul vs Soulless
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a professional wrestling fan when exposed to the possibility that professional wrestling is fake, scripted theatre will initially react with hostility, however eventually they will be able to put the pieces together, and they will arrive at the conclusion "Professional wrestling is fake, but I still enjoy the product" because they are capable of rational thought, critical thinking, and self-reflection.
football fans will just say NUH-UH and never actually consider the possibility.
the sunk cost fallacy is too ingrained into the football fan's psyche. people want to think they "know ball" and act as if their ability to recite meaningless and arbitrary numbers and probabilities is worthwhile or meaningful in any facet. ultimately, stats are what the refs ALLOW to happen. scores are what refs ALLOW to happen.
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>>145267964
>soul is being a cutout chalk outline
>souless is having a defined identity
seems oddly fitting for you
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Real scizho hours
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>>145267976
only real niggas and OGs up rn
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>>145267945
whats gay is me sitting here with this dildo up my ass
anyways go wions
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>>145267934
You have no idea what you're talking about and ehe minute anyone gives you a rational reason as to why the league isn't rigged you shut the fuck up because you know nothing about football and have no actual answer. Not even a mental gymnasium kind of leap in logic that a casual might bite down into.

Billionaires do not become billionaires or stay billionaires by lighting stacks of hundreds of millions of dollars on fire.
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rasm
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calling me a "schizo" for articulating my ideas in such a manner, ideas which seem controversial or perplexing to you, as a means of insulting me and implying i suffer from any form of mental illness for thinking outside the box is rich, i am sure you realize that what you're really saying is that you're jealous of my critical thinking skills and inner monologue. you're not calling me a mentally ill schizo, you're calling yourself an npc who cannot think critically. be better.
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>>145267583

Good read but you're missing some important elements, such as that for refball to work, the team benefitting needs to be reasonably competent. You ain't refball the Browns into the Super Bowl but the Chiefs can be gotten there by the refs simply ignoring holding penalties, thus allowing the talented Mahomes to exploit that 1st down into more 1st downs and on to touchdowns.

There's also the most important element; having a large national fanbase. The Lions were perennially fucked by refball because the team was only locally popular, meanwhile the Packers were getting beneficial refball year after year because the team is popular throughout the U.S. (and globally).
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My Reffies =))))
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>>145267997
Bucme?
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>>145267943
>Its easy to rig a choreographed fight between two people in a ring so that's the same as 52 team rosters where players go down with season ending injuries on the regular

NFL to WWE comparisons is the most retarded normie shit to pull from. I didn't know how I could respect you even less but boom. There it is.

Yes we got the full expose on the WWE being rigged with less moving parts but somehow the NFL keeps pulling it off...

Do you even listen to yourself? Doubt it. So lost in the sauce you tune out whatever you say while saying it just to engage with someone.
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how many times have you seen the announcers discuss "the analytics" when they say "the analytics says do this" and then the coach follows the "analytically optimal call" and it blows up in his face?
an unnerving frequency. a statistical improbability.
almost like those numbers are ultimately completely meaningless because they omit the true x-factor, the reffies.
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>>145267751
>Jimmy Haslam

He still gets his equal share of NFL profits regardless of how shitty the Browns are. Refball makes him money, even if his team is out of the running.
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>>145268016
the season ending injuries never happen to the main characters you dumbass.
mahomes has barely missed a game!
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>>145268026
That legitimately does not matter.
The owners treat it as a legitimate competition, because it is. Those billionaires can make billions so many other ways that'd give more profit over a shorter period of time than football.

Haslam burnt 1/4th of a billion of his own money over the next 5 years on a serial rapist he has to deal with being directly related to him. He has to continue to pay him, in full every week as he sits on his ass with a torn ACL because the retard gave him it fully guaranteed to the ire of the rest of ownership.

If that was an owner, content to sit on his ass and collect a paycheck, he'd have just kept Baker Mayfield the only QB relevant enough to drag that sorry franchise to playoffs and win in decades and build around him.

Instead he got shiny eyes and thought he could win now and looks like a fucking clown.

None of that computes with a guy who knows the NFL is rigged and just wants a paycheck!
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>>145268038
>the season ending injuries never happen to the main characters you dumbass.

Dont you have some retarded faggy ass gen alpha version of big brother to watch with your fellow ruined generation instead of ruining Football because you didn't bother to learn it growing up and only started to care about the sport from the moment you could gamble on it like CS:GO crates?
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>>145268039
forgot to mention that I am an avid taylor swift kansas city chiefs fan and i don't see how the nfl would possibly have a vested interest in propping up the team her boyfriend plays for when it has been proven to be incredibly profitable to keep the chiefs in big games because fans who don't care about football will still watch it for taylor swift
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Why are you Vikings fans still seething? Don’t you have a Somali fuckking your sister to attend to?
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>>145268052
Oh no, but enough about how this all started with some fraud Vikings team and a shitty rams team
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>>145268061
what part made you think i give a shit about the vikings or rams?
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>>145268070
It’s how this all started, if that call never happened we would all be doing something else
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>>145267964
I like both
The Dolphins logo change was the true soul vs soulless
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>>145268055
it happened at the very end of the game so the scatterbrains can still remember it. if it happened 10 mins into the 2nd quarter there wouldn't have been a single post about it in the last 4 hours
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Sports aren't rigged from the top down.
Individual refs can rig games, but in general it's just pure incompetence.

There are 22 men on the field at all times. There being more is actually a penalty they have to focus on. There is only 7 Refs, it isn't physically possible for those 7 refs to be aware of and track the moves from every angle of all 22 men, even if you break it down into sections of the field for less angles.

Course, then there is the NY Replay situation, where they apparently can't get all the right angles.

I know the NFL is 99% bandwagon fanbases, all the big name teams right now sucked over 5-10 years ago but the queefs who were just playoff losers.

So most of you here probably do not remember this, but they actually did have replacement refs one year. They were worse than the original ones.

I'm not sure what the solution to this is.

I suggest one year the NFL expands to a team of 30 reffies all working in one command room, full of individual monitors on camera feeds that are man operated, all focused on a singular individual player that game, and have 7 others doing the traditional ref jobs they do today.

With a head manager ref supervising them all.

Sure we might get 6-8 hour games, but maybe if we have one season were every call made was the right one, and no calls were missed a full season of this, people can realize how awful it'd be if refs actually called everything.
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>>145268105
it's untenable because the average American is a rule autist and wants a car crash micromanaged and their only solution is micromanaging the car crash more, as you very clearly show from your proposed solutions. you should embrace that you can't treat a car crash like a board game and deliberate everything
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perhaps ligma balls
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>>145268162
The correction to your post is I want this car crash micromanaged down to the exact detail so much for one season to just drive home the point that nobody would enjoy football being played or enjoy watching it that way.

Than if anybody tells me that his parlay lost cause the games rigged and refball I can still him to shut the fuck up and remember when they tried ruining football for that exact reason in 2026.
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>most unbalanced sports book in years because Vegas refused to move the moneyline or spread, leading to 90% of money being put on one team
>refs spend the entire game helping the other team win
Yea, this league is cooked. Vegas runs professional sports and will make a call if they're ever at risk of losing a ton of money. Sports gambling needs to be made illegal, or at the very least internet sports gambling needs to be made so it can't be advertised by sports broadcasters or sports media.
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>>145268372
Gretard thinks Vegas has to rig games to win lol
They make all their money off moonshot parlays not money line losses.

They most consistently lose to money line and spread gamblers who use their football knowledge of match ups to win a majority of their bets.

Of course like everything there is luck involved but the edge always favors the house and a majority of sports fans are retards who make poor choices with their money.

Vegas cares more about getting people on the strip and in their shows. Sports gambling sells itself to drink retards on the couch.
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>>145268432
Horse racing has been doing it legally for decades|aside from literal mafia, what's keeping other sports?
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>>145268432
>They make all their money off moonshot parlays
And where do you think most of those parlays missed?
Oh gee I don't know, maybe the most common bet of all the bets, the spread bet
Even putting aside that face mask the Rams had FIVE 3rd downs saved by wishy washy calls in two seperate scoring drives. You cannot watch that game, especially the ending, and see it as anything but rigged.
Oh and the over under was 48, with most of the money on the under because people felt 48 was a bit high. Final total with the safety was 50.
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>>145268432
>Vegas cares more about getting people on the strip and in their shows. Sports gambling sells itself to drink retards on the couch.
The in casino sportsbooks don't make a ton of money you're right, but the online sportsbooks like fanduel, draftkings, betmgm make significantly more than the entirety of what the casinos themselves make. That's why these sportsbooks have become the biggest sponsor and advertiser of every major sport in the world, and you can't go 5 minutes watching sports media without a person telling you to sign up for fanduel.

Vegas now runs professional sports and you'd be a fool to think they don't.
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>>145268464
I would say you're wrong but have you heard this message from fanduel? Complete with obnoxious kevin hart. Or this message from betmgm, etc.. Hate it. Haaaaaaate.
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>>145268450
You've never tried organizing something larger than maybe a wedding party and it shows.

There is no shot anything is rigged by Vegas itself.
You'd be more likely to get a corrupt referee and that's it. Football is a bunch of billionaires playing action figure wargames and they hired a bunch of marketers to make the rest of the country give a shit about it by tying its identity to locality. They have no incentive to rig games because they're already the top dogs by a large margin and there is no other competition in town. NBA and MLB aren't even close to sniffing the shields fucking jock strap.

The last 20 years however is unprecedented in the sense that streaming rose out of nowhere and killed broadcast television. Its dead Jim. Take ABC they're now getting 17 NFL games to air, 14 simulcasted with ESPN.

Broadcast networks will pay anything for the right to eat NFLs sloppy shitty play and the NFL doesn't care about how garbage their refs are don't care about what's happening at all or making the experience better for fans because they don't have to. Their fans have no other option either.

Streaming services meanwhile will oubid whatever the cable channels are paying to stay alive just for the bragging rights and to further take from the remainder of cables pie.

Until the fans stop watching the games never going to get better because there's no incentive for the league to clean it up.

There's no incentive for Vegas to try and buy refs out to rig games from under the leagues nose either, because something like the black Sox scandal even back in the day left 3 generations of embittered sports fans that hated gambling interfering with their game.

The last thing sports books want is a reason for fans to stop watching and demand legislators outlaw sports gambling again right after they just won 4/5ths of the country in legalization.
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>>145268439
That's what people can't grasp.
Horse racing everyone acknowledges has always been fixed, to the point that it's just common knowledge some races will be rigged but you're there to gamble, not watch the fast horses, so no one really cares
Unlike horse racing though, pofessional sports made the vast majority of their money all the way until a few years ago through just product placement and product based advertising. Coke, Pepsi, Toyota, Pizza etc.
A recent study has shown that about 20% of the time you're watching sports now, there is some audio or visual ad occurring for sports gambling.
Vegas runs the sports world, and while they'll usually be hands off, we they're ever set to lose a decent amount of money they'll call in some extremely one sided refereeing to fix the result
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>>145268525
>There's no incentive for Vegas to try and buy refs out to rig games from under the leagues nose either
You're right, the league is in on it.
Hence why they never investigate refs for gambling or rigging
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>>145267742
Because you're assmad and hate fun
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most of this is cope from retards that can't gamble for shit. most of the slips I see posted would have been mocked brutally even 8 years ago until you never posted a slip again
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>>145268546
The league isn't in on it, that'd invalidate the whole point of owning an NFL team and playing the yearly war games for the billionaires.

Refs aren't the league, and theyre not going to be in on it because it's one black Sox scandal away from the billions of dollars those sportsbooks now make to nothing. There's no point. Its a too big to fail American cultural institution.
The connections to influential people via networking and the hundreds of thousands of dollars for a few weeks of work a year is enough incentive to keep NFL refs honest, and the job security is enough to keep them incompetent and trash and incompetent at their job.

There is literally not a single party in the NFL where it'd be beneficial to rig football games.

The black Sox scandal only happened because the players were underpaid and could be bought out. They're not multimillionaires with the top paid player soon to have the potential to be a billionaire by the end of their playing career.

Sports rigging is for bush league trailer trash shit like the WWE or 3rdie shit like association soccer
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>>145268537
Oh, I know. I grew up with the likes of Nascar an other stuff. D: I don't bet on horses personally but I do enjoy the sport since they're nearby.
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>>145268621
NTA I grew up around Churchill downs and the triple crown shit sure as hell ain't rigged though there's glory hunting cheaters abound everywhere you look, cause a triple crown studs sperm is gonna be worth a lot of money.

Of course the run down mafia owned track is gonna have rigged races, and shady shit going on but the institutionalized shit is washed out of the highest echelons solely because when you're already a millionaire, billionaire etc this shit is just your playground. Instead action figures and sand castles it's real people and real castles.
They're going to want their competitions to be real too.

Those arent just some athletic club. At this point they're American cultural institutions.
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>>145268647
Saw some of the races in breeders-sp cup going for 2m+ whew. I lived near pimlico unfortunately it's situated in a cesspit.
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Haha I didn't know Tim Walz had such passion on the subject of sports rigging.
Haha am I right folks
On a more football related note you guys really need to reconsider what you think of the Chiefs offense.
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>>145268616
>There is literally not a single party in the NFL where it'd be beneficial to rig football games.
Objectively, and this is the best case scenario, there are ref crews that get together and bet on the games they're refereeing, followed by fixing them.
The NFL is too afraid of another 2012 situation so they'll never investigate them. The referees know that, they face zero risk.
The vetting process has increased with the rice of sports gambling but it has zero effect on the people grandfathered in, which is like 90% of current referees.
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>>145268699
I mean when they tried the replacement refs all of those people were shit too.
Idk how you expect 7 people to keep up with 22 athletic genetic freaks even with the field divided into specific sections and parts they watch for, when all them are wearing the same jerseys too.
Even worse now that there's no real rhyme or reason to what player wears what numbers.

There's bound to be missed calls or even incorrect calls in the confusion.

I'm sure eventually we'll get some AI replay system that can recreate the players positioning down to their exact limb and digit extensions on a 3d plane and then highlight any potential rule breaking and if the length/duration/context etc matches enough for a reasonable call to be made.
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>>145266273
If r/nfl was personified and actually made an NFL roster, it would be that faggot
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>>145266286
How on earth did you come to be a fan of this group of teams?
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>>145266938
You like children because they're easier to control



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