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>>145267088>tomorrow's games
my ant :)
Celtics couldn't do without a 30 point blow out.
my wuffs :)
>>145267100>Brooklyn 12.5 underdogs against fucking Orlandowhat went wrong?
>dogshit bench>no spacing>overpaid anchors
>>145266902pretty sure cailee is an okc fan but i would convert her to the rockets
Nuggets are finished right? :)
>>145267116its jokover
Braun need more help than this. This shit is ridiculous.
>Wemby has a dud night>Chet is player of the gameDon’t let this fool you. Wemby is still better.
Not yet.
>bench the starters with six minutes leftHas Pop finally gone senile? What the hell???
I always see the Hawks logo as Pac-Man eating
Thundies make Oklahoma livable
>>145267163How’s it like over thereI’ve always felt you guys are Texas Jr
>Kangz
>>145267163>Mavs and Thunder look like the two best teams in the West>WCF really going to be Red River Rivalry: Basketball Edition
>>145267116>no spacing>bring in westvishnu>he goes 2-10 and 1-6 from 3The nuggets are a comedy
>>145267172If mid was a state it would be ok not super bad but definitely far from good.
Listen niggas.. ,.......
>>145267187inb4 Jokic forces his way to Dallas so he can play with his fren
1 Ring, 1 MVP and 1 DPOY please
>>145267216>chet_ho.pngJust because he scored a lot this game don't mean you gotta call him a ho :(
>>145267205why not rep your team w/ a varsity satin jacket?also drive jacket
>>145267172Oklahoma as a whole is pretty shit, but I like OKC. Just big enough to get decent events and it’s got a lot of different places to go. The population density being so low because of how spread out the city is is a plus too. Basically a big city for people who hate big cities
>>145267216This Tim Blake Nelson looking motherfucker is going to be a hall of famer some day.
Another play-in year for the Sacramutto Kangz, my fault for assuming anything otherwise
did I hear right that Chuck thinks that the Bucks won't even make the playoffs?
>>145267205Catatafish??
>>145267239he's running a train on the whole league tbf
>>145267088Chet is MJ, Wembum is Drexler. He will lead OKC to the first 3 peat since Shaq and Kobe
(you) got a halloween weekend party invite right anon?
>>145267248>>145267204That sounds comftyGuessing the rent prices aren’t too bad
>>145267286I haven't gone to a halloween party since college
>>145267269The Geriatric Antetokounmpo and Lame Lillard will both be too injured to play and the aging core of Bucks wont even be able to squeeze
>>145267286First time I won’t be in the US of A for Halloween in a whileGonna miss all dem girls dressed like sluts Here it’s pretty cringe since everyone is just LARPing being American
>>145267286I'd fuck that fat male doomjak. There's a certain class of fat boys that are very plappable.
I never expect them to win a game. Im just glad they didnt get BTFO like the portland game
>Trade Him Today is now a "who he play for" playerlmao
i wonder what would have happened if kobe never tricked westbrick into thinking he should be the guy taking all he shots at okc
>>145267286we demand to be taken seriously
that was the last who he play for
>>145267344Celtics fans should thank God that Kobe fucking died before he could fully ruin Tatum. As it stands Tatum was largely able to have Kobe's mind virus cleansed from his system.
>>145267344>>145267355has anyone infected by the bumba mentality ever done good, Randle, Westbrick
>>145267368Tatum just won a ring
>>145267344KD, Westbrick and Harden would have at least one ring.
Trade him immediately
>>145267406Yeah fuck KAT
My bets for today >warriors win>suns win->lavine 15+ points>giannis 20+ points>dame 2+ 3s>josh giddey 2+ assists>durant 15+ points>booker 15+ points>lebron 10+ points>reaves 10+ points->76ers win>oubre 1+ made 3>dick 1+ made 3>drummond 8+ rebounds
>>145267427you have a severe mental illness
>>145267394Tatum is a lot of things but he isn't a selfish memechucker, which everybody roasted him for in 24 finals
The only part of Vishnu's game that changed over the years is his point of attack defense disappeared which used to be a real weapon. Otherwise, everything he does is the same except his timing on all his jumpers and layups got fucked up when he lost his bounce, so now those are bricks. And he gets a lot less easy shots due to not having a 100 speed stat anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD8KxOgwj7k
>>145267301they really fixed their depth issues of last season. obviously anyone can get hurt but i think they're gonna be fine
>>145267100Why doesnt embum statpad aginst us. We're just as bad the the pistons
>>1452674822019 still has him shook
>>145267452I remember a decade ago I would troll Thunder fans by saying Westbrook was fucked once he lost his athleticism. They would all mock me and say that "obviously" Westbrook was going to "age his game" as he lost his physical abilities. They compared him to Jordan in this regard.
Hello there!Do we have any Knicks fans here?I have just started following them!
>>145267534Haven’t you been a knickfan since years ago UKbro? Or is that another anon
the spurs literally thought they would at least have a competitive season because of chris paul lol, lmao
>>145267135Lively owns them both
>>145267286lol I'm a pelicans fan and I own that exact hat
>>145267269Dude also said the Mavs will be a 6-8 seed this year. He’s losing it.
>>145267575>Wembust vs ChettieI'm nooooticing...
>>145267628He’s not wrong about that thoFatcic will probably be injured or playin video games or sumin Kyrie has his Arab month where he doesn’t eatKlay is gonna turn to Klank Thompson anytime soonAnd Gafford, PJ Washington and Kleiva are certainly not gonna carry them
>>145267650Ramadan Kyrie has the shot of the year last year, Luka had his best year when he was also at his fattest, Lively/PJ/Gafford/Marhsall/Grimes will be a solid core .Klay is either OK or he has the same value as Tim Hardaway JR, so no real difference
>>145267640Wemgoat is a narrative energy-powered player. Last season he went super saiyan after losing a 1 on 1 battle game with Giannis. Wemgoat getting bitched like this is just going to activate his inner power. Goku ain’t unlock ultra instinct without getting bitched first. WemGOD is going to bootyblast Chettie next time they meet
>>145267724>is black and French>acts like an anime characterFitting, really.
>>145267724>gets to the league>immediately starts calling people lazy by year two>drops a stinker opening nightwemby needs to be humbled
>>145267482he didn't want to go to lebronto
Fuck Westshit
>>145267727Ynr he altered entire legacies by pointlessly winning game 81 against the Nugs which had literally zero benefit to him and his tanking team other than the satisfaction of cucking the Nugs out of first seed… it’s because of Wemgoat that Vorpic met Minny in the 2nd round and got BTFO. >>145267749Wemgoat already arrived bro he winning DPOY this year. Opening game dont mean shit he doesnt have his narratives to draw from yet
>>145267670It’s a fact that ramadan makes you worst It’s a fact that if you play vidya and eat during summer you will get fat and do worstThe rest is a solid core but it’s not gonna drag them anywhere 6th team at best
>Klay is washed, he should retire
>>145267791But this was the case last year, and they were the 5th seed and they played 2/3ds of their matches with a worse team.Why would a better team do worse this year? Did the West level up so much?
Seems like my lakies dodged a kawhi and PG sized bullet.
>>145267825They ended in the 5th seed but could’ve easily been 7th or 8th since it was decided on the last weekAnd 5th is still mid territory which is what Chuck said It’s not something wild to say
>>145267216If he can turn his offense into even 1/3 of Kevin Durant's the Thunder will fold the NBA
>>145267836Their run after the trade was like 21-9, with 2 or 3 of the last games not having Luka and kyrie play since 5th-6th seed was secured.
>>145267591the hoodie too?
>>145267368Wait a minute. What if the Mamba Mentality was a ruse by Kobe to sabotage threats to the Lakers? He was the most loyal Laker since Magic. Think about his targets: Randle, who left the Lakers for the Pelicans; Westbrook, drafted by the Thunder; Tatum, drafted by the Celtics. What if Kobe was deliberately trying to ruin them all under the guise of "helping" them, to ensure that they'd never threaten LA's dominance?
>>145267880Did I forgot to mention Jason Kidd is their coach?
>>145267887based kobr
>>145267898The man who has taken them to Conference finals and Finals in his 3 seasons? Yes
I hate basketball hats. Why can't they be like baseball hats.
>>145267887This is why he should've lived to see Jokic shit on his mamba mentality crap with his three MVPs all the media would want to ask him his thoughts on a disinterested Slav dominating the league
>>145267917The man who has been riding his superstars and can’t make plays?The man who didn’t made the playoffs the year before and previously got canned from his coaching jobs?Yes
>>145267920I unironically miss when NBA snapbacks were a thing homie
>>145267923>Coach has changed teamsWow.
>>145267937>ChangedLmao I understand your first language is not English Konstaninos but canned means fired
>>145267942Saying that he changed teams is simply stating fact. It does not imply by default it was by his own volition.Shitskin retard.
>>145267871play in team
>>145267986Lmao getting fired has nothing to do with leaving because you got good results But I guess it’s hard for a country that does not understand the concept of default Maybe you just call it a change on the amount of money you owedOr when your country loses their credit rating you just call it a change in the rate of accessing credit What a fucking loser
>>145267790Man that was so kinonplus it's a kino af lore nug
is anyone else sad that we won't ever see quality nuggets basketball again
>>145268135No lol it was 14 of the most hatable guys on the planet earth and then Jokic carrying them. I miss the 2021 Suns more. CP3 was hatable but everyone else was cool.
>>145268152how could you dislike aaron gordon
>>145268152Wait, so do you watch the NBA to form some sort of parasocial relationship with the players and pick which ones you do and don't like based on their on and off court mannerisms? What the fuck is that shit
>>145268135There's still a chance to see Jokicball if he demands a trade
>>145268135nope
>>145268167Everyone alive does this
>>145268197No, not all of us do. Some of us understand that athletes are simply people paid a wage to entertain like a magician or a singer, and they are to be valued for the sum of their works rather than their personality outside their line of work.
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>>145267088I know how to make the all star game interesting to watch this year. You take the Boston starting lineup and make them the east starters. Send that 5man group out there to face the best of the west. I bet you both teams play hard and try to win.
denver is so badbraun looked ok
saric and watson airballing open threes is just revoltingmalone really has to do something else with russ than have him shoot threesstill don't get the point of paying 50mil a year to murray, no other team would pay him over 30pathetic to get embarrassed by homogrin like thiswemb had an awful game, on all levels honestly, but he will rise and prevail
ayo how did my westgod do?
>>145268483It’s San Antoniover…
>>145268522He played pretty much to his expected level. He brings a lot of personality to the franchise though and you don't see that in the box score
>Kyrie>Klay>LukaMavs really assembled a big 3 of Curry haters. Steph btfo of them is going to be funny asf in the next playoffs
Chokebitch and Westbrick
its so fucking over
this brief interaction between Morant and Iisalo was pretty interesting. looks pretty positive to me, maybe Iisalo told him to use some move in practice and he did it? any lip readers? regardless, clear indicator that Iisalo has challenged Ja in some way, and there's an existing relationship, in the beginning, egos will be clashing, so Iisalo has to earn Ja's trust.Jenkins turning away and ignoring it is also pretty intriguing, knows his time will soon be over as the head coach? Iisalo is responsible for most of the coaching for Grizzlies, he takes care of at least offence, content of trainings and scouting, so by far the most important member of the entire coaching staff.Iisalo is totally focused on the grindset, he hasn't given a single interview to neither international nor Finnish media after joining the Grizzlies staff. prior to that, by the least, he was giving them on a monthly basis.
>>145268882who's the cute girl on the bench
i've never seen a player dominate a game as much as i saw julius randle dominate yesterday for the timberwolves against the kings. you know he made 5-6 three pointers as part of his 33 points? and that's a guy who's only playing his 2nd nba game in 10 months, and who has gone from the easy east to the tough as nails west. the wolves have found their man
>>145268897I don't know, wanted to ask it in the post but forgotshe's not listed on the Grizzlies coaching staff, but she always sits there next to Iisalo
ok bros, which white man's team should i root for now that the nuggets' championship window has officially closed?
Jimmy…
nba games should be reduced to 40 minutes (10 per quarter). 48 minutes is too fucking much.
>>145268543>brings a lot of personalityAh yes, a total negative on both ends, can't hit a single open shot and never showed any kind of accountability for his failures and shortcomings Truly an asset
>>145268444>HELLLLLL NOOOOlmao, I fucking love him
>>145267135Better at turning the ball over lol
>>145268928Randle is one of those guys where even after a masterclass you hesitate to rate him because hes one of THOSE guys
>>145267501There's only one player in the history of the NBA that didn't have to change his games because of his age and that is LeBalco20 years now and he still does the same thing, driving to the basket for dunks and layups while bricking everything else
>>145269883I’m a LeBron hater and this is a retarded take
>>145269883Lebron made more threes on a higher percentage than Curry last year
>>145268440....Chet bros....
>>145268882>Father of threeYou simply must respect a father. Glad to see a father on an NBA bench. I'e fear the Grizzlies this year.
>>145269944No he didn't but you did make me look it up so congrats I guess for that
>>145268882I read "nice job, that's it, keep going"
>>145268911>Cason with the "Oh gotta get on my guy--wait, no, it's just Westbrook"
>>145268911Once westbrook gets acclimated to the Denver altitude he's going to be a problem for the rest of the nba
>>145267286rockets are low key legit, better than clippers
>>145267207jokic should have left immediately after jamal started regressing last year
>>145267286Nope
This season sucks so far bros ngl....
>>145270211Wrong.
>>145267286I've never been to a party
kerr created a monster
The Mavs WILL absorb every disgruntled star in the league and make them great again and you will like it.
bro we might really have to play Nnaji over c*oatian bum
JokeBITCH lost HAHAHAHA
Barring the Thunder making some groundbreaking trade before the deadline, I think we’re gonna have the first repeat Finals since the Warriors vs Cavs.
Keyonte George's grandmother calling him out for his shitty attitudemy fucking sides
>>145270494don't worry, tatum will tear his achilles like his idol
>>145270342are the MAVs the Expendables of the NBA
Joka...
these niggas need a nigga
I don’t know why people are surprised Klay can still shoot, that was never the issue. The real surprise is he can still play defense. I don’t know if he was phoning it in for Golden State or what, but he definitely isn’t as cooked as people were claiming.
>>145270576Murray and MPJ are your best shooter, Its so joever
The only two teams coming out the west are Mavs and OKC. Everyone else is mid :)
>>145270494Yeah, the Thunder have no chance against the Mavs in their current state. Chet's just going to get bullied again, Luka clears SGA, and OKC doesn't have an answer for Kyrie.
how my wizzies lookin
>>145270796I was at the game last night: not great. Stadium was half full, and even that half was mostly Celtic fans. Celtics were playing all their "who?" players by the start of the 4th. Wizards have no real PG while Brogdan is hurt. It was ugly. Poole kept them in it for a quarter though.
All of the good guys have won so far
>>145270796I believe your team is an excuse to scam taxpayer money >t. former DC resident
>>145270917uuuhhh no? our little rapties are on a 1 game losing streak with no end in sight....
>>145271032>our
>>145270775SGA actually outplayed Luka when they faced in the playoffs (albeit Luka was hobbled). You’re right though that they’ve done nothing to solve the issue of Lively sonning Chet, and Kyrie going nuclear, and add to that they now also would have to find a way to keep Klay in check, the Thunder simply don’t have the tools on hand to deal with the Mavs.
My picks for 10/25: we split the ticket last night as the Spurs showed that they haven't really improved much in the off-season. The Wolves game easily hit the over for us though. But tonight we got a good card. Let's smash those bookies.yesterday: 1-1this week: 5-31.64 units up>76ers -5.5We took the Raptors ATS in their season opener and they got beat up badly. They have a ton of injuries and look to be already in tank mode. 76ers are in a good bounce-back spot here after getting whooped by the Bucks in their season opener. Sixers shouldn't have too many problems in this game.>Pistons +10.5I liked what I saw from the Pistons in the first 3 quarters of their season opener. I think the Cavs are getting overvalued after a big win over the Raptors. This is just way too many points. I think the Cavs do win this game, but Pistons are going to be scrappy this year.>Pacers +4.5I don't think the Knicks should be favored in this game. Pacers won the season series and playoff series against the Knicks last season. Pacers are running back the same team that had a historically great offense last season, and the Knicks still have to figure out their identity with all the new pieces. I think the Pacers keep this game close and possibly win it outright.>Jazz +3.5Jazz were the 5th best ATS home team last season and I think this is a great bounce back spot for them. Yes the Warriors got a big win in their season opener, but it was against the Blazers who I think will end the season with the worst record in the league. I think Jazz have a good chance of winning this game outright.>Pelicans -5.5This is simply a fade of the Blazers who I think are the absolute worst team in the league this year. I'm going to be fading them early and often early in the season before the books catch up and start spoting them double-digit spreads. Pelicans should have absolutely no problem covering this spread.Good luck, and don't bet what you don't have.
When is NBA admitting that Lively is better than both Chet and Wemby?
>>145271114Yes, OUR rapties.
>>145271192Curious to see if Hartenstein can handle Lively. I doubt it, but we'll see. Who could they realistically get that could put them over the Mavs? I know they have resources out the ass to trade, but teams aren't going to want to give up a premium big when they're in short supply these days
Is he the best coach in the NBA or could most people succeed with that roster?
>>145271312You gotta remember that it was extremely close to a game 7 despite Thunder being outrebounded and killed on the glass. With iHart and Caruso I really think Thunder will beat Mavs in 6 or 7. But yeah Thunder and Mavs are just way ahead of every other western conference team unless Nuggets pull of miracle trades somehow.
>>145271268Lively is the Bill Russell to Chet and Wemby’s Chamberlain. The latter 2 are better in a vacuum, but head to head, Lively is perfectly equipped to beat them.
>>145271375>unless Nuggets pull of miracle trades somehow.They really need to do that, at least 2 solid bench playersI don't understand how the Nuggets front office believed that they can play with rookies and Westbrick when the starters are out resting
>>145271375It really does feel like all the Thunder need is a reliable rebounder. Sabonis comes to mind, but good luck getting him
>>145271365>could most people succeed with that roster?Isn't their best player some corny role player?
>>145271462iHart is legit one of the best rebounders in the league and probably the best offensive rebounder. They will be fine with him.
after last night im a chet believer now holy shit
>>145271432They could have gotten Buddy Hield and Tyus Jones for min. They're incompetent as fuck, just got lucky with drafting a top10 player ever in Jokic.
>>145271565Tyus Jones wouldn't have signed to be a backup in Denver over starting in Phoenix.
>>145271365>could most people succeed with that roster?Every """great""" NBA coach is like this, just look at Pop's career after Duncan retired. NBA coaches are glorified tard-wranglers.
>>145271312The only player that I’ve seen that can really give Lively fits is somebody like KP, and Hartenstein is no KP. Dirk would have probably also been pretty good at handling him, but bottom line is, the guys that can mess with him are incredibly rare and possess really unique skillsets.
>>145271432because their GM is 2smart4you retard who is trying to double timeline shit when that never worked what's especially annoying is that due to new CBA you have bunch of great free agents who can't find teams, and we are paying players like Zeke Nnaji and fucking Picket real money
>>145271565>just got lucky with drafting a top10 player ever in JokicExactly, this team has a championship just out of pure luckAt first I though that they didn't want to waste money getting good players but that contract extension they signed with Murray showed that is not the caseSo what the fuck is going on with them, do they not care about winning anymore rings or are they that delusional to think that Jokic can play with any player in the league and win every time?
>>145271365He's a modern coach in a league filled with last decade's coaches.
>>145271796there's no logical explanation for this type of incompetence
Just saw Jimmy Butler cleaning shit off the floor of a Shell's restroom with just his hands
>>145271929Was he wearing gloves?
>>145271535I'm glad the Thunder got him. Curious to see how he'll fit into the lineup once his hand is healed.
>>145271961Unfortunately no he said there's no ring to protect so what's the point
>>145271225I just lost my house using your bets. I'm going to have to declare bankruptcy
>>145271998This isn't real but I wish it was.
>>145271919>his smile and optimism: gone
>Celtics already being compared to 2016 Warriors Boring. Just give them another ring and fast forward us. The Jays have ruined the parity era.
I think the key to unfucking Klay really is as simple as “dude just have him play with Luka lmao”. The man is still automatic from 3 so long you’ve serving him wide open shots instead of making him have to do that crazy 180 fadeaway spin shit.
you guys are dooming too much. Denver is 2 bench pieces away from being top tier again and that's not terribly difficult to do unless you don't try at all
Banchero eliminates Bumston by himself
>>145270183Depends on if Jabari can turn into something, unfortunately I don't have much hope in that. Preferable him + FVV + a pick or two turn into Booker
Miller bros...
>>145272237>unless you don't try at all
>>145267094they were probably playing the footloose song during a timeout
>>145272215>2016 WarriorsSo you’re saying the Celtics are gonna lose the Finals in a rematch with the Mavs?
>>145271919If Jokic wants rings (he does) he should go play with the Jays when Horford and Holiday retire. Simple as.
>>145272298Jimmy can play off the bench to get his ring.
>>145268911jokic asked for this because basketball was too easy
Veteran role players must be seething at the Celtics bringing back everyone instead of signing them for the minimum
what's actually sad is that Braun has realistic shot of being our second best playerbro shouldn't even be in rotation
>>145272256Buck broken
>>145272237The problem is, even if Denver returned to form of the year they won a ‘ship, that isn’t good enough to cut it anymore. While the Nuggets have been eating glue in the corner, the Celtics, Mavs, and Thunder already unlocked the next Super Saiyan form.
>>145272362You just KNOW PJ Tucker is fuming right now.
>>145272375some mexican cuck probably
>dejounte Murray out 4-6 weeks after surgery on a fractured bone in left hand
Based on everything we've seen, I think these are the early season power rankingTitle Contenders 1.Boston Celtics: looks like the best team and current favorites to repeat2. Dallas Mavericks: Fresh off a finals run and added Klay Thompson,I don't think Klay is washed or at least THAT washed, I think he just hated playing for the Warriors after 2022 and just stopped giving a shit, he'll play better than his last 2 seasons3. OKC: Young team that added better pieces (Caruso, Hartenstein)put out a statement game by crushing the 2023 Champions, will compete with Dallas for 1st seed in the WestTeams that can make a deep playoff run and pull an upset 1. Phoenix Suns: improved dramatically in the off season (got the best starting point guard they possibly could and have a solid bench unit, got a better head Coach, both rookies look like they can make an immediate impact, I think if they trade their current center for a better one (can stretch the floor, be a lob threat and finish at the rim, be a rim protector) and add another big player that can rebound and play defense, they can possibly be a title contender2. Lakers: I think JJ Reddit will actually make this team play better than last year, AD and LeBron still look like they can compete at the highest level, this could be their best Lakers team since their championship run (2020)3. Grizzlies: Have Ja back, drafted the best Center in this years draft, young scrappy team that will surprise people this yearAnd here are the rest of the teams that will probably make the playoffs at the very leastBucksWarriorsPacers Magic Warriors CavsNuggets PelicansRockets
>>145272551About Shart and the Tpups
>>145268024kek
>>145268911lol, he aimed it too
>>145272551>>145272562Yeah I forgot about a few teamsTimberwolves: I think they got worse with the Kat trade but they'll make the playoffs at least, 2nd round is their ceiling this yearKnicks: same as the Timberwolves, I think The Kat trade helped them more than the Twolves, but I think it'll take 1 season for this Knicks team to reach their potential, but they'll reach the playoffs76ers: Their 2 best player are injury prone and their player is already load managing before the season started, they could possible make the wcf but they can't beat the Celtics.
>>145270758Randle is winning a title/FMVP this year on the Knicks and still won’t get a max
>>145272395the nugs' starters are consistently at the top of the league. The problem they have is needing to build huge leads or climb out of holes because their bench consistently loses by 15+ and after a while malone just starts playing them more minutes which wears them down
I feel like anybody in the media that says the Lakers can contend is just doing a bit. No amount of decent roleplayers here and there is enough to overcome the fact that their fundamental core of old man LeBron + AD just isn’t gonna cut it against these teams that are running out 3 or 4 strong player lineups and/or have MVP level stars leading them.
>>145272690>76ers>could possible make the wcf
>>145271558He had plenty of "CHET HAS ARRIVED" games last year, and vanished in the playoffs. I need to see some more consistency before I start truly believing. That being said, I feel like he's already a top 5 rim defender. The rebounding leaves a LOT to be desired though
>>145267088this is the most predictable season ever. we will see celtics vs okc in the finals. how these teams are allowed to be this stacked is beyond me
>full slate of games today>only Grizz/Rockets and Pacers/Knicks are watchable
i think people looking at the kat trade are wrongly looking at it as kat for randle straight up, it's actually kat for randle + divicenzo while gaining cap space which will probably be beneficial for the wolves in the end
So realistically, where do the nuggets go from here? Hope Murray gets back in shape by playoffs and trade MPJ at the deadline?
look how they're doing >my Pacies. That's an insane schedule.
>>145272946The T-Wolves traded their ability to be actually contendors, which begs the question why the bother signing Gogurt
>>145272965gobert went from a 2025/26 cap hit of 46.5m to 34m so it's actually a good deal for my wolvies. and they are believers in gobert being a floor-raising, winning player and a genuine asset so we're all happy they extended him
>>145271919>2015: i have to pretend to like being here>every year but 2019 oh wait no i don't>2019: i have inside knowledge this season will be shortened
For me? It's Chet "Man Jam" Holmgren
>>145272965The fact that they felt the need to trade for Gobert is a huge indictment on KAT and his defense.
>>145273039The Bright Skin GOAT
>>145272947trade westbrick to the wizards for jordan poole or to the nets for ben simmons
Im thinking its the Suns year
>>145273039He got two nicknames in one sequence>The Long Arm of the Law!>THAT'S A MAN'S JAM!
>>145272947They are what they are. There's no real moves to make. Just praying the Strawther and Watson git gud. The Holmes injury is looking more catastrophic for the team by the day.
>>145271919Yeesh 2024 jokic is looking rough
>season hasn't even started>players are already getting injured to make it easier for the smellticsThat's crazy. Almost makes me want to wish for an injury or brownbitch.
How the heck have people not hammered these Dallas odds yet? I mean, I got the Celtics winning, but shoot I’d take the Mavs having a better than 10% chance of hitting the 10/1 payout. Certainly a better chance than the Knicks, Wolves, or Sixers.
>>145273099Man's Jam is a reoccurring phrasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVsoDFVA1wU
>>145272705>randle>on the knicksanon I.......
>>145272902Suns vs Lakers is the best one for today
>>145270576Come to New Orleans slavman.
>>145273272Jokic for Zion+that Mexican guy
>>145273146People still don't know if Klay is back to his 3&D form. If they give them 15-18 points a night with decent defence. I'd take that
my Suns finna booty blast la
>>145273432As a Celtics fan, the only opposing player I was concerned about was Jokic.The Celtics dynasty can begin.
>>145273360he's not, he'll just show it one out of five games or something
Redick masterclass loadingBronny undefeated era will continue
It all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
>>145273133CHADlen the FMVP doesn't concern himself with the thought of Bitchdan Bronzonovich
>>145273559Showtime Lakers 2.0 about to happen. Bronny is the next Magic and the Lakers will draft Cooper Flag as his Kareem.
>>145273979>he was aware of this and still let the org sign WestbrickJokic is an unserious player gm he just lets his bum ass franchise do what it wants yet yaps when things dont go his way. A real superstar would put pressure on the org to get them help.
>>145273146No point in tying your money up for 6 months on such a long shot.
Is Zion gonna play tonight or does his tummy still hurt?
>>145273559>is Reddick the next Pat Riley?questions nobody is asking
>a second round pick going to the g-league is breaking news on the worldwide leader of sports
>it’s library hours>no signs of weapcel or inceltic
>>145274025Westbrook is vet minimum guy. Contractwise he is nowhere near the worst player on the Nuggets no idea why is reddit obsessed with him
>>145274215because westbrick isn't going to play like he's the 15th man on the rosterhe's gonna jack up trash, steal rebounds, and force bad passes to stat padlook at his linehe's still trying to farm triple doubles
Literally everyone was shitting on Klay. I don't wanna hear "omg Klay's back guize you doubted him etc etc", just shut the fuck up, stop lying
>library posting in late 2024
Why is Chet so much better Victor Wembaby?
>>145274255and he is still better than most of our team. We have guys who are getting paid three times as much who don't play at all, and guys who are paid twenty five times as much and suck as much as he does our issue is not westbrook, our issue is money wasted on bums, bitches and clowns
>>145274287It only seems like he is because he doesn't need to live up to glaze numbers.
>>145274265You don’t know me.
>>145274119
>>145274287Chet fans desperate to prove their boy is the goat vs Wemgoat knowers
>>145274215to me it's because westbrook is a former mvp so he's still a big name guy that i always liked, but he has regressed so horribly that having him on the floor is an active detriment even if you were to get him for free, and point guards always draw more attention because they run the offense
>>145274356cool, and now guess why we have Westbrook out instead of Zeke Nnaji, Jaylen Picket or Hunter Tyson
>>145274292>he is still better than most of our teamthis is actually very arguable. Most bad players are passively bad and really aren't noticeable unless they're getting cooked on D and/or airballing everything. Westbrook is actively bad with his recklessness AND gets cooked on D and airballs everything
Chettie not doing the same numbers with 3 dudes guarding him every possession he a Shai gravity babby. Wemgoat doing allat by himself
>>145274378its not arguable, there is a reason why he is on floor over other people, and that reason that they are even worse we are playing westbrook because our other options are even worse.
Will the Celtics win any games by less than 20 points?I caught some of them beating the 76ers by 50 points the other day and they looked pretty unstoppable.
>>145274395>there is a reason why he is on floor over other peopleit is entirely because of his history and not his actual ability. I'm not saying that the nugs other players are good or even rotation level but westbrook is one of the worst players in the league and that is compounded by him being allowed to do all kinds of dumb shit because of his background
The bad guys are the Celtics but who are the good guys this year?
>>145274382Exactly, OKC is the deepest team in the west and SGA is an MVP contender. Wemby has a mummified Chris Paul and your local park rangers suiting up with him
>>145274370well you only asked me about westbrook, i have no idea wtf the nuggets are doing other than mismanaging the supporting cast of one of the best nba players of all time (i am referring to jokic). it kind of feels like after they won a championship they (the organisation and coach) got too arrogant and thought they could just outsmart everyone else when it was just jokic doing all the heavy lifting (and a streaky murray helping out)in a way it's kind of sad that jokic seems happy enough just to do his job and hoop in denver instead of looking for a way out to maximize his championship odds, but he just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would down tools or betray his current organisation to take his talents somewhere else like you see with other superstars, he clearly wants to win but min-maxing his odds of a championship doesn't seem like something he is about which i kind of admire but also as a purist it makes me sad
Daily reminder that Jayson Tatum continues to lead the league in points and assists. He is a fifth in rebounds.
my dubbies don't need klay anymore
>>145274287chettards really gonna talk shit after wemby struggled vs the same guy that made chetty his bitch in the playoffs lol
>>145274429no, it is because Zeke, Hunter and Picket are even fucking worse our bench were Saric, Strawther, Watson and Westbrook, and they are all bad I'm not saying that Westbrook is good, I'm saying that he is the best option we have because other options are even worse >>145274502Calvin Booth is absolutely atrocious GM. He was very vocal about picking Holmes with our 27th or whatever pick, which ended up forcing us to trade up with Sons because they basically blackmailed us for that guy, just because Booth wanted it. He keeps giving guaranteed contracts to absolute dog water players, and of course on top of that we are overpaying for our starters. We are getting to the point where team now is worse than it was when we had two max players injured for entire year
>>145274510Now imagine if Curry had been more ruthless a couple years ago and got rid of both Klank and Mond already. Dubbies could have beaten the Nugs and Steph could have 5
>Wemgoat doing allat by himself>the allat in question
>>145274510>>145274566You played Portland, relax
>>145274639Now post how Chet had a triple double hung up on him by Joker
>>145274639Wemby finally having 1 bad game is Wemgoat haters ring lmfaooo Chettoid literally averaged less points than this performance last season
>>145274508bronny leads the league in rebounds per 36
>>145274639kek
>>145274696>finally having 1 bad game
>>145274321Watch him get injured tonight kekDid he even lose any weight or is he taking the Luka route and trying to get into shape while playing?
>>145274696Nothing I love more than my generational center shooting 28% from the field
>>145274774blud thinks he's KD, lmao
>>145274382>3 dudes guarding him every possessionActual cope lol. Mavs were not throwing extra men at Wemby. They were handling him just fine with 1 guy guarding him.
>>1452746395-18 is disrespectful to the game but 1-8 is atrocious He’s become a pseud due to being on the Spurs with no bag and needs to work on his body/deadlift more. Me and my coworker were just talking about how he shoots too many threes WemBUST
>embiid scared of playing Jokic in Denver>Shai goes in and completely dismantles the nuggetsYup, it'll either be Shai or Tatum MVP this year unless Luka decides to lose a few pounds
>>145267650>t.babb malding
>watching Thunder/Nuggets highlights >Most of the highlights are Nuggets plays despite losingDid the Thunder FT merchant or what?
so we are all in agreement?
>>145267088Thinking about watching the Lakies game tonight to see JJ Reddick's new offense.
>>145274774Keep the same energy when WembGOD goes off next game. All you haters are petty af.
>>145275139Luka didn’t play any preseason games and still dropped 28/10/8. It’s his award to lose.
tonight is looking pretty good when it comes to the selection of nba games. what a great league
who'll be the scoring leader this season? place your bets now
>>145275388Cam Thomas all day long unless he gets benched
>>145275388Luka again.
>good guy teamsKnicksNuggetsMagicHeatWolvesPelicansHornetsRaptorsKingsGrizzliesMavsRocketsPacersHawksCavs>bad guy teamsCeltics76ersBullsSunsWizardsClippersLakersThunderSpursJazzBlazersBucksPistonsWarriorsNets
>>145275332He shot 25 times man, I can get 28 points if I shoot the ball 25 timesHe also had 4 turnovers and he played against the Sperms so not really anything too impressive here
>>145275492what the fuck did we do to you?
>>145275492why jazzies are bad
>>145275499Exactly why he’s gonna win. He’s gonna keep shooting 25 times every game, but he’s not gonna shoot 35% from the field every game.
>>145275516>>145275500Tanking
Your washington wizards ladies and gentlemen
>>145275516mormons are basically jew tier
>>145275223Make your false flags a little less obvious in the future, please.
>>145275526accepted
>>145275522I love how he was the only player from the Mavs who played over 30 minutesI wonder if he was trying to get a triple double or lose the fat
>>145275388i think doncic
>>145275578He was the only player that skipped the preseason. Kidd played him extra minutes to get him in shape and familiarize the rest of the team with their roles when Luka is on the court.
>>145267088This Bronny-Bron playing together in the same game would be a lot more hype if Bronny were a more significant player and talent. Feels like Bronny wouldn't have even made it into the G-League, let alone the NBA if it weren't for his dad
Name a weaker era of NBA basketball. Everyone is old, injured, going to be injured and older, capped out and draft pick-less. The teams that aren’t old, injured, going to be injured and older, capped out and draft pick-less, are all underwhelming and overrated (Mavs, Wolves, Knicks, etc.) GOATic has a roster that would be picking top-3 for the foreseeable future without him. And it doesn’t matter anyway because they’re constantly injured. Are you guys going to look back on the Celtics’ superstars who just won a championship as all-time greats? The Knicks made a conference finals by just playing hard. The Heat’s whole shtick is that Heat Culture ™ is just playing hard and they made two Finals. The Suns made a Finals. The Lillard-Giannis duo should be, on paper, based on those player archetypes, should be the best PG-PF duo ever and they suck. The potential budding dynasties (Thunder, Magic) aren’t there yet. Seriously, name a worse era of the NBA.
Is there a player that has ever suffered more unjust disrespect of his character than Kyrie? The man is the vocal leader on the Mavs, the tutor for young players because Luka isn’t interested in the gig, fully aware of his position as the #2 to Luka and plays incredibly unselfishly in a support role, and the architect in selling Klay on joining the team. Literally the opposite of locker room cancer. The Nets deserve to meander in mediocrity for their undue slander of this man.
>>145275887jokic
>>145275887Remember when KyGOD was allowed to play in Away games but the Nets decided to vax virtue signal by preventing him from playing anyway. Hope the deposit from Pfizer was worth it.
2 hours. memphis v rockets. the narrative energy begins tonight
>>145275765Very insightful!
>>145275965Joe Tsai, Steve Balmer, Mark Cuban, these tech billionaires always have the ego of a sun when they initially buy a team like they’re just gonna school everybody else with big flashy moves only to get bitchslapped by reality. Joe Tsai couldn’t cope with the fact that his team’s ineptitude was his fault, and lashed out his frustrations on Kyrie.
>>145276010Dillion the villain vs Ja
>>145275827we done with the '20s
I don't see how my dubbies lose a single game desu
>>145273432based
Lebron vs KD is gonna be lit
>>145276315Breaking up that nets team was a once in a lifetime retard move. The nets were still really good in 2023 and they traded kd and kyrie midseason and now theyre stuck wih trash
>>145275965It's even worse than that. Tsai could have made an exemption for players to play even home games. The Lakers quietly had something like that for their arena. All Tsai had to do was stand up for his players a little bit and he could have made it happen and had Kyrie play full time.
ben simmons time
>>145276967time for another triple single masterclass?
The Clippers Wall thing, is it actually a good view? I don't live in Toronto so never been to a live NBA game, but wouldn't you want to see the court side to side instead of looking directly into a hoop?
>>145277031This view makes me feel uneasy.
>>145277031It's like watching 2D basketball.
>>145276845They can tank for multiple years and collect assets now though. Maybe in a decade they will have three all-stars again.
>>145276845Joe Tsai no longer cared about actually trying to build a competitive team at the point, he was purely fueled by spite. The real cancer on that team was Harden. Habitual playoff choker and mercenary that jumps from team to team at the first sign of trouble.
our guy ben is actually complaining to the refs demanding free throws after driving to the basket. he's fucking back bros. in his element. in his zone. we WILL see a ben simmons three-pointer this season
>>145277213he's a bum. looks like a bum and plays like a bum
>>145277213back to what?
>>145277312thats why we like him
We got some dawgsIf only Scottie looked like he cared half as much as those guys
>>145277376nobody likes a bitch ass niqqa
Bruno Fernando is a bum
WE
we got locked in oubre tonight
been a good minute i haven't been able to catch a game live.
>Scotty injuredIt's over, time to tank for Flagg
>>145275765Bronnys not even G-League talent. He sucks with a bad heart. Why did the Lakers think anyone but them would draft him
>>145277500i disagree, bums like ben simmons are the backbone of the nba and provide great contentben simmons after 1q against the magic:0-3 fg0 fta0 3pa0 pts
knicks can't shoot, going 0-82
>>145270494Mavkeks are dogshit they only made it because jewban paid the refs to blow their whistle every time Luka got looked at meanly
>>145277642knickerbockers
Scottie finally showing some fire. We supposed to be building around you, bro. Be a leader.
>>145272950Look on the bright side, their end of season schedule is going to be weaker and they'll have momentum going into the playoffs.
>>145277642but they got kat
Edey vs Sengod soon.Asian cracker showdown
Why y’all gassing lively up like he’s the Chet killer Chet bodied the best big man in the league last night and without stein. Stein is overkill no one is stopping this thunder team.*barks*
Imagine being named "Benedict"
Ben Simmons made his MyPlayer wrong, ‘defense’ handles and absolutely no scoring whatsoever
yall gon apologoze to sosho when he gets dumped/bought out and helps a contender
Dick is ELITE
>>145278065Helps them with what?
>>145278065No, but I'm completely amazed that Ben Simmons managed to get such loyal fans.
My raptors...just needed more time
>>145278024fuck off faggot
>>145278144You’re supposed to be aggressive on the court Ben, not the internet
>>145278120Same dudes that think Westbrick’s teams always get worse because they won’t put the ball in his hands and let him play his game
>>145267088>Ja still doing the pistol celebrationhe is too based for this gay earth
Sam Hinkie was garbage
>>145278264>tank for years to get top picks/hoard 2nd rounders>80-90% of them are no longer in the league/hot garbage what went wrong?
edey and ja in the paint... kino my nigga...
Mathutin >>> Halibum
edey is too damn big
daily ja injury scare... heh... my morantie just trying to give adam silver false hope in that he goes down for the season again...
grizz coach u better be yelling in edey ear to get some damn boards
I'm overseas, any link/streams to watch my Knicks?
You can build around the 17th pick in the 2013 draft (6’1 175lbs) or the 1st pick in the 2016 draft (6’10 245lbs), which do you choose?
huff was rotting on the nugs bench last season
hmmm looks like all y'all LOSERS who were talking shit about my rapties after last game are looking mighty stupid right now huh? yeah stay silent you fucking dweebs!
One of these teams is supposed to be in their peak title contention years.The other just blew it up and is tanking for the lottery.
Cam on RocketsWe can't go 0-2 early in the season
>>145267129Fukkkkkkk you can tell he's got a big dick.... I wanna suck that BWC hnnnnngggggggg
name one era of a "good" team with worse vibes than the embiid sixers
>>145278924Wait till Embiid and George get healthy and then talk that shit
i just want a girl with a fat ass and another ring for yolker
>Wait till Embiid and George get healthy
told u I'd be back bitch talk that shit now
>>145279056they got twin beds reserved at the local hospital in philly for both those bums KWAB Maybe I'll pay them a visit with a get well soon card
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i need to see some DICK right now
>Maxey 5/16FG% against the worst team in basketball Your new Allen Iverson, Phillysisters
Seeing both Lowry and Nick Nurse in Philly will never not be painful
I hope we get a 1A guy who has a killer scoring instinct in the lottery. That or RJ turns into it. Nothing I've seen from Scottie makes me believe he can be the number 1 scoring option on a playoff team. His bag is nearly empty.
Giannis just put vucebitcb on a poster
I keep forgetting that’s Kenyon Martin’s kid, they look the same he just grew up with acne medication I suppose
Might as well play McCain/Maxey, small and shit defense but at least McCain can shoot and has good ball handling
It just dawned on me that we refused to trade Lowry for Maxey years ago, and know philly has both of them. Sometimes Masai is not the genius everyone believes he is.
this fernando guy is a dawg
>>145279481Told you adding all African players would pay off
>>145279475delete this
#freekawamura
>>145279475They got Precious for Lowry and RJ/Quickley for Precious, stupid. Quickley is better than Maxey and RJ is just icing
I think my Lakies/LeBron winning the IST for the second consecutive year is gonna cause some suicides in this general
>>145279543> Quickley is better than Maxey i will choose to believe this
Imagine if the Kings traded Fox instead of Haliburton. They'd be tanking for Flagg right now.
>>145279543>IQ better than MaxeyNot even quickley himself believes that. And the reason we got RJ and IQ is called Ogagua. Precious was just a throw in.
>Scottie suddenly grows a pair, actually goes into the paint, and shoots the ballA few times a game he'll do this to remind you he's not a bum, the rest of the time he'll sit on the perimeter like he's a bystander
>>145279543>QuickleyEven Knicks fans weren't delusional enough to believe that. The only thing he is better at than Maxey is defense.
>that white boomer wearing his lowry jersey over his button up shirt >tucked the jersey into his jeans toobased
>>145279686>>145279642Quickley has better per 36 numbers than Maxey while being the better defender and bigger, he’s more valuable
>>145279632I mean at least they'd be gaining something instead of just being stuck in mediocrity at 10th
>>145279632Halliburton’s greatest accomplishment three years into the league is losing in the ECF. Fox’s 7 years into the league is losing to the team that lost to the team that lost in the WCF
>Dem kids with the 43 jersey.I miss my nigga Pascal
quick question. why do the nba teams bring out hip hop dancers and play hip hop music when the crowd is 80% white
WE GOT LIGHTSKINSLETS FUCKING GOOOO
BOUCHER NOOOOOOOO
>>145272950>Down by 30 after almost losing to the Pisstons
ermmm pacersisters?
Where's that nigga who bet on the Shitxers over my Raptor?
>Cam Thomas 5/14How does Sean Marks get so much leeway?
WEGOTBATTLE
I knew my rapties were contenders all along!
>>145280088He's gonna pad those scoring stats and drop like 10 more in garbage time now that the game is essentially lover
>>145280088He brought the Nets to the playoffs after Billy King sold all of their assets. He can probably piss on their owner and still not get fired.
YEAH IM THINKING WE'RE BACK
>>1452802111 playoff as the 8th seed in like 20 years is a pretty shitty track record.
>>145280088the greatest tank commander of all time. The team doesn't stand a chance with him chucking like that while casuals eat it up because of the point totals
I've seen enough. Dump Scottie in some shithole, get a guy who can drive into the paint and dish out passes, and we're going to 3peat.
LETS GOOOOOOO PACERS
>>145280218always knew my raptors were contenders. Scottie MVP szn. Never doubt messiah ujiri
I WANT TO SEE A DICK BATTLE
>>145280211Joe Tsai would rather have the 3-4 months of wnba success with the liberty than care about the nets
>Tyrese Haliburton>26 minutes>0 points>0/8 FG>0/7 from 3
how is it a team like the grizz can pull players out of the ymca and make them viable rotation players yet teams who consistently pick top 5 in the draft can barely find 1 decent player
>Ben Simmons this season:>45 minutes>10 fouls>10 turnovers>-24Thought he was playing for a contract?
>>145280300>>145280349loving every laugh
>>145280258Scottie is one of the few guys in the league that are skilled, big and quick enough to go unga bunga into the pain Giannis' style.I have no idea why the fuck doesn't he do just that.
>>145280410He does that like 3 times a game and then the rest of the time he stands around like he got popcorn to watch.
>>145280349turns out that you can't just be a half-assed nba player and expect to keep up
WE'RE CHOKING RIGHT NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!!!!!???????????? MASAI PICK UP A PHONE
>>145280410>>145280427First autistic player since Tony Snell, he used to get lost in space a lot and not do anything the whole game despite having elite size and a great shot He be thinking about trains and shit
>Throwing Trae all over the court>no foulLOL ok
WE NEED DICK
Lamelo on fire to start the season.
>>145280528>tears achilles
>losing to the bullsbucks suck
Knicks didn't lose because they are bad. They lost because the Celtics are that dominant.Knicks probably really are the second best team in the east. And are that far behind first.
>>145280528he has the IQ of a sped kid so he can't sustain high level play
DICK OUT
>>145280592cant wait till you play a healthy Jimmy and your world/* crashes down around you, inceltic
My Raptor has 3 players that fouled out, kek
There is no way our rapties choked this 20 point lead....
>Sixers haven't advanced past the 2nd round since 2001
>>145280713my rapties with the gentlemen's lead
Is Embiid ever gonna play again
>Scottie standing on the perimeter and someone gave him the ball with no clock leftHe finally drove and dunked it, why can't you just do that 10+ times a game?
>Maxfraud learning how hard it is to be the #1 with bad teammates
>>145280410See what I said? he just needs to keep doing that. Who's going to stop him? In the sixers, no one, that's for sure.
>>145280755Trust the recess.
What does Maxey even do?
>>145280749>>145280748GOT
OH SHIT WAIT A MINUTETHAT PRETTY NIGGA
Maxeyxirs...
THE AUSTRIAN HAMMER
The shantydelphia shantyshitxers :)
>>145280806AUTISM
walker is gonna be a great player for the pacer
Season doesn’t really start until I see Joel & PG on the court with Maxey
ISIS has a new leader and we know who he is
>>145271225UH OH STINKY
Where were you when you realized that the Giddy Bulls are better than the Bucks?
>>145271225
Suns Up
>>145271225DICK'D
Wait, why did we win? We're supposed to be tanking for Flagg and Bailey?? MASAIIIII
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
SCOTTIE WITH THE SPIRTUAL 30LETSSSS GOOOOOOOO
>>145280958Neither of those teams is watchable, this is why expansion always has and always will be a bad idea. In Wilt’s era you’d combine those teams and have Lonzo LillardP Williams GiannisLopez LavineWhiteGiddeyPrincePortisVery watchable
my rapties with the gentlemen's league opener the season starts NOW
>>145281006we fucked up bro....we won but at what cost???
Rockets still dominant at home. Just have to figure out how to play on the road
>maxey 6/23anon was right IQ is better than this bum LMAO
0 pts from Embiid again.
stop enjoying basketball my team hasn't won yet
marcus smart is terrible. Can't believe how Boston carried this fraud
>>145281085I had to argue with people for years that he was bad. And they tried so hard to gaslight and brainwash me. But I refused.
>>145281060IQ actually has skill. Most of his 3s were catch and shoot instead of memechucking.
MOGGED BY MOGBO
>>145281085>be the heart and soul of your team>get traded>they win right away>get injuredKWAB
>>145281080No one on that team can shoot. They need to fix that shit asap. Every practice should be shooting contested threes until they make 60% of them.
what do i watch now?
>>145281153They’d never get to go home with Westbrick on the team
>>145281159Dragonball Daima episode 2 of course!
>>145281165Too fucking bad, keep going.
>>145281153It's over, they have to trade for a shooter or something. They're not making past 1st round like this
>>145281195
>>145281159Zach Latrine and Coby White stylin' on Yannis.
>bucks about to lose to the tanking bullsChuck may be onto something
my pels are looking like doodoo
>>145271225did you actually get everything wrong?
>>145271225fuqq
