>gay>Tests positive 4 times for peds>Loses to Reyes>Only beats fat 5''10 welterweights>Hides from Usada for 4 hours under ring>Ducks interim champ>Only moved to heavy weight after Ngannou leavesHere's your 'GOAT'
fedor still the goat
he lost to Gus the first time too
>>145706427Fedor isn't even top 3
>>145706427PRIDE had wussy no elbows rules and was halfass worked.
Sissy euroclittys still coping they can’t beat BBC
>>145708814and ufc has wussy no knees while grounded and no 12-6 elbow (lol) rules and gloves easy to poke eyes with. in general ufc has always had the most pussy ruleset>>145708556lmao
>>145708963>American trying not to think about BBC for 5 seconds challenge
>>145709462Fedor fought a bunch of freak shows and cans in PRIDE. He almost lost to a part time mechanic in the US. Only retards think Fedor in an era where unga bunga chute boxe striking was considered world class
>>145709548it's of all time, not "greatest during the era when the skill level was regarded good enough even by reddit autists"pride had much better competition than poofc when he fought there
>>145709495>State mandated television station
>>145709462So you agree that PRIDE has wussy rules, limiting the ability of any GOAT contention. Thank you. Fedor would’ve been carved up in a legit setting.
>>145709785yes their rules could've been better, but I don't understand why would they limit any contention any more than ufc rules would?
>>145709702Of all time means of every era. Jones did it in a better era and had a better record.
is that TITANIUM BONES?
If eye pokes were a one point deduction he would have won maybe two fights in his career
>>145709856obviously, and in 20 years there will be other athletes fighting in stronger eras. it's normal progression for pretty much everything, it doesn't mean you disqualify everyone who competed during a "weaker" (older) era, or if you do then you must disqualify Jones at some arbitrary point when you decide the eras are much stronger compared to his. main point being, if an athlete competes during a weak era, he, like other athletes also had much more limited resources compared to athletes in modern eras, the achievements of an athlete should be compared relative to the era he competed in.everything from eras to +ve drug tests is up for a debate and there's no definite answer in any GOAT debates, so this discussion is rather pointless
>>145710059>obviouslyAnd that's why we call pele's accomplishments in farmers league inferior to Messis. 99% of people takes in account that the best player of their respective sport did it in an era that had good competition. Jon Jones > Fedor
>>145710145I know, and that's why oat discussions are pointless to have with people who are such narrow minded. if you want to relegate the "era" factor to only modern eras, you should talk about it as greatest during x era or best of all time, instead of greatest of all time.
>>145706427but >fedor still the goatis wrong in every account. Only retards can contest this
>>145706181https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbbB-ABeO74
>>145708963Do you really think Tom loses to him if Dana gives him the title shot? Jon beats old men
>>145710884please specify the accounts it's wrong in
>>145711277Jon jones had a better career
>>145714410in your opinionsome might think his entire career is regarded as fraudulent due to several +ve tests
wait hes black AND he's gay? double nerf
>>145706181Getting away with everything makes him even more GOAT. Proves he's the king and runs this sport.
>>145708556At this point I would say not even top 10 bordering on not being top 15. Oldheads with seethe over this
>>145706427always will be
>>145706427Prime feder would obliterate Jones
>>145717413Prime fedor wouldn't even win against plumbers in the UFC. He lost to Antonio niggera
>>145706181the hate is very strong in this one
>>145714836>>145714410The thing is he never needed the dirty tactics; he was excellent without themHe was too afraid of losing and had to cope in some way, like how he makes sure he parties before every fight so he can blame it on that if he ever loses
>>145714836It's factual. Fedor lost various times throughouthis career. Jon jones is beter
>>145706181He should fight more title defences instead of his wife
Badr Hari would've killed his bum
>>145723699>>145717413>>145717224>>145711187>>145708540>>145706181Cope and seethe Redditors.Jones is the undisputed GOAT and destroys Asspinall.
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