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I mean in the PL he was hardly better than eg Hazard and once he moved to Madrid he became a mindless poacher. Messi was always clear of this bum even in 2007 or 2008.
I'm Indian btw if that matters.
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>>145719697
>Messi was always clear of this bum even in 2007 or 2008.

No. Ronaldo deserved all the Ballon dors he got, and was stolen the 2018 one.

That said, Messi > Ronaldo because of dribbling and playmaking abilities and being a straight up genius on the pitch.
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>>145719697
>I'm Indian btw if that matters.
kek everytime
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of course he wasn't that good.

he is only marginally better than Lewandowski. Lewandowski also has a higher g/a than him some years.

in fact Lewandowski did it with a much worse team. Imagine being ronaldo and leaving real madrid and they still win TWO MORE CHAMPIONS LEAGUES while you're still active in saudi arabia.

meanwhile Messi's barcelona goes to Europa league and can't beat Eintract Frankfurt.

pathetic. Also Messi's g/a all time is 1.24 per 90 minutes. Cristiano's is the same as Lewandowski.
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>>145720077
hi chikaner
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He had one godlike year which was 2016-2017 and that erased many years of being shit. However, he got absolutely butthurt that Bale scored a bicycle kick in the champions league final which eclipsed his Juve goal, so much that he left the team.
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>>145719697
>>145720077
Ronaldo has more CLs and more goals than Messi. He also has multiple instances of showing up in big moments, more than Messi. They both have a World Cup or equivalent (Euro). Scoring hattricks against Levante and Eibar and getting carried by Di Maria do not decide GOAT status.
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trvthnvke!!
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>>145720186
>argensimian back up his fellow argensimian
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>>145719697
Let me reframe it for you. Messi, who is currently playing in the MLS with Jordi Alba, Sergio Busquets and Suarez was just eliminated by 9th place Atlanta United.
Messi has always been a liability in big matches. The South Americans have a word for this, 'pecho frio', and they applied it most famously to Lionel Messi.

In the 11/12 Champion's League SF, Messi took a penalty that would have tied the score against Chelsea and missed. And no, he did not score even 1 goal in either leg. He did, however, score 6 goals against Bayer Leverkusen in the RO16, who finished 6th in the Bundesliga that year.
In the Copa Americano Centenario final in 2016, Messi again missed a penalty, and lost to Chile. He later retired, claiming, "I've done all I can."
In 2020, Messi scored a notable 4 goals against Eibar, gaining the nickname 'Eibarman'. This was in the middle of a legendary 8 year Champion's League choking run, where in:
2015/16 Barca was eliminated by Atlético Madrid in the QF, Messi scored 0 goals
2016/17 Barca was eliminated by Juventus in the QF, Messi scored 0 goals
2017/18 Barca was eliminated by Roma in the QF, Messi scored 0 goals
2018/19 Barca was eliminated by Liverpool in the SF, Messi scored 0 goals in Liverpool's 4-0 comeback
2019/20 Barca was eliminated by Bayern Munich in the QF, Messi scored 0 goals

He then continued to choke at PSG, and now he continues to choke in the MLS. However he always had sponsors and FIFA behind him to patch the cracks. This works well with consumers who want to buy Lay's chips with Messi's face on it, but it will never fool a true fan of the game, who know Messi as a serial choker.



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