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You know what else isn't over?
This thread >>150676498
plonked
stink as m8
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• 2nd most playoff wins of all time

• 2nd most Superbowl MVPs of all time

• Most TDs per game in NFL history

• Most Yards per game in NFL history

• Highest win rate of all time

• More division titles (7) than division loses (5).

• Never missed championship round in 20s

• Only QB to throw for 5k yards in pros/college

• Only player to have 3 Superbowl MVPs in 20s

• 2nd most pass TDs of all time in playoffs

• Most rush yards in Super Bowls among QBs!
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>>150832925
Kek. Stink as
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what is the best bait to post on /tv/? Im talking guaranteed 300+ replies
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>>150832917
shit bait even though we do rate the mormon missile
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>>150832926
Joe Buried
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>>150832944
Mahomes is #1 in everything at this age.
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• Most wins of all time among all players
• More passing TDs than anyone else
• More passing yards than anyone else
• Most passing completions of all time
• Most Pro Bowl appearances by a single player

• Most division titles by a single player
• Most consecutive playoff appearances
• Most consecutive Conference Championship appearances
• Most consecutive playoff victories

• Most playoff wins of all time among all players
• Most playoff completions of all time
• Most playoff passing yards of all time
• Most playoff passing TDs of all time
• Most passing yards in a single playoff game
• Most playoff Game Winning Drives of all time
• Most playoff 4th quarter comebacks of all time

• Most Super Bowl appearances
• Has more Super Bowl victories than any single franchise
• Most Super Bowl MVPs of all time
• Most Super Bowl TDs of all time
• Most passing yards in a single Super Bowl

• Oldest player to lead the league in passing yards
• Oldest player to be named 1st team All-Pro
• Oldest player to win MVP
• Oldest player to win the AFCCG
• Oldest player to win the NFCCG
• Oldest player to win a Super Bowl
• Oldest player to win Super Bowl MVP

• At the age of 44, broke the record for most completions in a single season
• At the age of 45, broke the record for most completions in a single season
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>>150832930
All of this BEFORE AGE 30???? Patrick Mahomes is on pace for the most legendary career of all time!
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>>150832926
>Toe Furrowed
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>>150832947
Sopranos sucks but you have to stick to it. Since it is true it is an easy one but you'll get a lot of edgelord browns who think they are italian raging about it. Easy work.
Go Bills
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>>150832965
>• Cost the Dolphins a first round pick after the Dolphins owner tried to daterape him on the yacht
>• Was shit on by saudi princes for millions of dollars after they got bored of OF models
>• Makes that one guy really fucking seethe in /sp/ about him
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>>150832975
Greatest tv show of all time pleb. You’re just mad that he was a Jets fan
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>>150832944
VPN off kiwi
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OFFICIAL /nfl/ POWER RANKINGS

https://forms.gle/VfUSueZrExv41HzN7

just fill out the form by rating how good you think each team is right now and I'll tally it up and post the rankings when there are enough results. don't bother trying to sandbag for your team, I've done this before and my autism is strong.
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jesus christ, he looks just like lamar too
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>>150832947
see what I mean? >>150833002
It is magic how easy it is.
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Just put 100 on the Colts sb win for 5500 lol
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>>150832971
Not bad
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>glass joe
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>>150833030
-$100
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Hey one of you discord furries tell Temujin to come here, I have something urgent to show xir
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>>150833045
who is this even supposed to be, they don't let many white redheads in the nfl as qbs so is this supposed to be a blocker or something?
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>>150833066
Reminder it's never Caleb's fault
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>>150832964
>no no its ok when I do it because I want you to know who I am its a good thing
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>>150833066
Tyson Bagent would never
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Mahomes is turning 30 in a few hours. Let's reflect on what he's accomplished in his 20s.

• Set the record for most MVPs

• Set the record for most Superbowl appearances

• Set the record for most TD passes

• Set the record for most wins

• Set the all time record of most total yards

• Only player in NFL history to never miss championship round

• Tied the record for most rings
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White QBs are 16-4 against QBs of color through the first 2 weeks of the season.
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>>150833056
We will see in February
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is this true?
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>>150833072
glass joe
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>>150833109
bulbasaur pandering bros...
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>>150832930
0-2
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>>150833109
White QBs are 1-5 against QBs of color in the last 6 super bowls
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>>150833108
Baby GOAT
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>>150833066
>2nd & 32
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>>150833119
sorry but this doesn't conform to my fantasy and highlight oriented view of the sport
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>>150833108
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>chiefschizos are still seething about everything now that the refs will not play the game for them.
you love to see it.
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>>150833153
Stink as!
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>>150833108
He literally didn't do any of those things kek
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>>150833140
Chiefs having one down year during a superbowl hangover should not take away from what they've accomplished. All the people saying the dynasty is over will be surprised when we're back in the owl in a year.
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>haha JJ McSharty

APOLOGIZE RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>150833168
fraid so
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>>150833066
Why is the corner acting like he did something legendary
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>>150833211
he's thanking them for the bonus he's about to get for that pick
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>>150833109
that reminds me, here's the updated out-of-division standings. each division plays a total of 44 games outside its division each year. the record for best divisions ever in the 32-team era is jointly held by the 2007 AFC South and 2013 NFC West who both went .750 in non-division games.

1. NFC West 6-0
2. AFC North 2-2
2. AFC West 2-2
2. NFC East 1-1
2. NFC North 1-1
6. AFC South 3-5
7. NFC South 2-4
8. AFC East 1-3
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>threadly reminder the dolphins have the same record as the chiefs right now and the dolphins will have a BETTER record at the end of the seasons than the chiefs
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>>150833236
I'm tired of pretending the AFC isn't a top heavy snorefest
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>>150833197
I’m not convinced it’s over yet, I’m waiting to see what we look like once Rice and Worthy are back. 0-2, or even having a losing record going into week 6, like say 2-3, is not a big deal.
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>>150833189
>Set the record for most MVPs
He has 2 league MVP and 3 Superbowl MVPs, so that's 5.

>Set the record for most Superbowl appearances
He went to a record 5 superbowls. No other QB went to 4 of them in their 20s.

>Set the record for most TD passes
He recently surpassed Dan Marino to have most TD passes in his 20s. This is somewhat misleading since Mahomes didn't start his rookie season unlike Marino so that's the only reason they are close.

>Set the record for most wins
His win rate is the best in the superbowl era among QBs.

>Set the all time record of most total yards
This record he set in 2022 still stands.

>Only player in NFL history to never miss championship round
The worst he's ever done is lose in overtime of AFC championship games.

>Tied the record for most rings
The most rings a player had in their 20s was 3, Mahomes tied this record.
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>>150833270
AFC is too weak for their season to already be over
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So we all agree the Giants are going to dominate the Chiefs right? It's been proven definitively patti cuckatini has declined to the point that he can no longer compete without multiple All Pros around him. I'm thinking final score Giants 32-14 and I say this objectively
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>chieffies fans are crying and "we"posting now
kek holy shit really is over for them.
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>>150832930
• fewer playoff wins than Tom Brady
• fewer Superbowl MVPs than Tom Brady
• fewer TDs per Super Bowl than Tom Brady

• More INTs per Super Bowl than Tom Brady
• Lowest win rate of all time against Tom Brady in the playoffs (technically tied for last since you can't go lower than ZERO, lol)
• Has fewer AFCCG appearances in a row than Tom Brady

• Only QB to lose to Tom Brady in both the AFCCG and the Super Bowl
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>>150833308
chompin em
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>>150832965
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>>150833308
Cowboys needed 160 penalty yards from the refs to win by 3 in overtime at home against the Giants
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>>150833334
what's Frank Reich up to these days?
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>>150833108
>Let's reflect on what he's accomplished in his 20s.
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>>150833301
Well by over I mean not making the super bowl lol, we’ll need to seriously elevate our game to compete with the Ravens and Bills in winter. The good news for us is that we’ve seen this movie before, but we’ll see
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what's a famous group of 10 specific people from any kind of pop culture. like if it was 9 I could use the fellowship of the ring, 8 could be kanto gym leaders, 6 could be OG power rangers, etc
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>>150833066
His footwork is so bad
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>>150833066
gayleb is so inaccurate that i strongly suspect that he was trying to throw it away, but accidentally ended up keeping it in bounds
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>>150833368
Cashing checks from two failed gigs
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What will statmutt do when the chiefs lose to the giants on snf?
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>>150833270
The WR room is not the issue. The RB and TE room is more concerning. The OL is good but inconsistent, but this might change once Josh gets more experience. The dline can't get pressure without blitz. Veach would have to pull off some critical trades to fix the team. Mahomes needs to start playing perfect again, that wide open pass was concerning. Kelce appears to be washed.
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>>150833262
sounds like why people are drawn to teams like the colts this year or the chargers/broncos last year right? people are desperate for the status quo to be broken but no the NFL wants to feed us more chiefs/ravens/bills
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>>150833392
Panthers are a dumpster-fire
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>>150833438
nah thats me
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>>150833308
As hilarious as it would be I give the Giants like a 2% chance of actually winning this game.

But if they do holy fuck it is over. All Chiefsfags will have to just dig a hole and hide. It'll be worse than the super bowl. But it's very unlikely. We shouldn't get too excited. The real lulz will be the next week when they fall to 1-3
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>>150833425
Yeah all true. I know he’s supposed to have a good reputation for some reason but I honestly hate Veach
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>>150833442
those teams went 4-1 this week
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>>150833287
>He has 2 league MVP and 3 Superbowl MVPs, so that's 5.
So he tied the record not set it. I was right. 1-0

>He went to a record 5 superbowls. No other QB went to 4 of them in their 20s.
"in his 20s" isn't a record qualifier. I was right again. 2-0

>He recently surpassed Dan Marino to have most TD passes in his 20s. This is somewhat misleading since Mahomes didn't start his rookie season unlike Marino so that's the only reason they are close.
"in his 20s" isn't a record qualifier. I was right again. 3-0

>His win rate is the best in the superbowl era among QBs.
That's not "most wins" overall is it? I was right again. 4-0

>This record he set in 2022 still stands.
You didn't say single season record you said "all time most yards". Another instance of me being right. 5-0

>The worst he's ever done is lose in overtime of AFC championship games.
Actually the Chiefs lost in the wildcard round in his rookie year. It's not our fault he was too shit to start year 1 compared to other QBs like Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco and Jayden Daniels. I was right yet again. 6-0

>The most rings a player had in their 20s was 3, Mahomes tied this record.
"in his 20s" isn't a record qualifier. I was right again. 7-0

Looks like you were wrong on every single account. Thanks for playing
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>>150833403
Very few Chiefs fans in the offseason were claiming the team would win the Superbowl following the Superbowl loss. We just went to 3 straight owls, we're not going to win it every year.
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>96.6% success rate

it's completely IRREFUTABLE that the tush push should be banned
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>>150833470
why doesn't your team use it
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>>150833442
Minnesotans celebrated when their neighborhoods got burnt down because of Kirby. Of course they weren’t ever going to pay service to Charlie Kirk.
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>>150833470
why didn't the Texans run it yesterday?
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>>150833470
maybe the defenders should get stronger and bigger so they dont get ran through by a qb lmao
>noooo hurts cant squat 600 pounds because thats not fair nooooo
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>>150833468
>we're not going to win it every year.
I don’t think you’re going to win it for a long time.
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>>150833481
we don't have the personnel for it

>>150833489
vita vea
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>>150833499
You’ve said that every year for eight years
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>>150833467
>it's sad watching the kiwi debase himself hating on the chiefs to fit in when in truth his team has no real rivalry with the Chiefs thus it's forced beef
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>>150833502
ackchually... that's not a bad point
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>>150833502
so the play that is so overpowered it needs to be banned is only effective when you have the personnel for it, and only one team in the league has the personnel for it? why should it be banned again?
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you cant run the tush push if your o line isnt huge and your qb isnt strong as fuck. anthony richardson could probably run the tush push
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>>150833470
>>150833481
>>150833489
>>150833493
Tom Brady exposed that the Eagles are cheating during the tush push and it exploded on social media. Their guards are jumping early. Brady has effectively killed the tush push because now the refs are going to be looking out for it.
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>>150833308
>>150833467
Honest question. Why are you like this?
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>>150833007
got our first retard who thinks he's cleverer than my autism

>votes 10 for the chiefs
>votes 0 for the broncos, chargers, raiders, ravens, bengals, bills, eagles, lions, rams, and bucs
>votes 1 for everyone else

gee I wonder who it could be?
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>>150833543
>why should it be banned again?

because only one team in the league has the personnel for it
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no one gives a shit about your rankings lil bro
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>>150833007
Fun. Doing it now
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>>150833563
>Why do you tell the truth

Because that's what Jesus wanted
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>>150833562
the normies have been swayed, the play will be banned and Hurts will reach Shaq, Wilt, Harden status of being overpowered
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>>150833572
sounds like the other teams should get the personnel and quit being whiny bitches.
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The WOKE MOB wants to ban the tush push and institute forced punts
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>>150833601
DAMN YOU HILARY CLINTON!
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>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BAN IT! IT'S TOO OVERPOWERED
>why can't your team run it then?
>BECAUSE WE FUCKING SUCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>150833600
too late, Goodell already bought a stake in ESPN and continues his NBAification of the league, he wants to turn the sport into a highlight league
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It's funny Taylor Swift legit didn't even want to be seen in public and had that black divider on wheels hide her from the cameras after Travis Kelce got slapped week 1 then blew the game week 2. She must have the massive ick. It's probably over for them (much like the Chiefs themselves)
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>>150833614
We can't expect the refs to be good, ban it for their sake #RefLivesMatter
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its simple really we uh stop the tush push
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Honestly you can't blame her. Travis Kelce didn't just embarrass the team he embarrassed HER
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>>150833634
Make it extra legal since the reffies are fucking the chiefs over this season.
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>>150833467
>"in his 20s" isn't a record qualifier
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just let the defenders push too and every 3rd/4th & 1 can turn into a massive retard pile
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kansas city fo should've pushed worst kelce to restructure his contract
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>>150833502
>vita vea
only a few teams have true stud nts
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The most concerning thing for Chiefs fans is that Mahomes is relying on rushing, which is a trump card he typically reserves for the playoffs.

Allen, Lamar, and Jalen rely on their rushing in the regular season so opponents know how to handle it in the playoffs.

Mahomes won't have a 2nd gear he can go to during the playoffs if he keeps putting that tape out there. What's more shocking is that he's effectively in playoff mode, yet is still losing.
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>>150833425
You forgot to mention Reid. His coaching in that game was a disasterclass. It’s between him and Kelce for who lost them that game.
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>>150833519
Before it came from a place of emotion but know it’s just obvious that you’re on the downturn.
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People that think things like
>mahomes is so much better than marino!
should go back and watch what kind of team marino had.
If marino had the modern rules and tyreek hill in his prime?
Holy shit that would be absurd.
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>Dan Blandino saying he doesn't like the tush push because it's hard to officiate
post yfw it gets reffed out of existence and the Niggles go 2-13 for the rest of the season
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>>150833704
the game was lost in march
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>>150833680
pretty gay that they unbanned it for the offense like 20 years ago but kept it banned for the defense. both or neither.
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>>150833066
I can't watch the bears this year because I keep just wanting to scream "Throw the ball!" every time they pass. They've got to tell him to just throw some picks as long as the throws are timed correctly.
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Do you think she makes Travis stand behind the cuck curtain?
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All this discourse for a 1yd run
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defenses would have to jettison their speed guys
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>>150833710
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mahomes mountain bros it's time
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>>150833704
Reid needs an offensive coordinator like Eric Beinemy who is a running back coach. The NFL has figured out Reid's offense and now he has to adapt.
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>>150833596
>Harden

All those other guys actually possessed physical skill that made them OP. Harden just exploited broken officiating and flopped like a bitch until he became such an embarrassment the league had to intervene. There's a reason those other guys won titles and Harden is known for being a legendary choker. You play on bitch mode long enough and you can't stop doing it.

And of course he's on the Clippers now. Can't wait to laugh at that bald faggot Ballmer when his $9685903 million dollar team loses in the first round again and he gets docked 3 first round picks for circumventing the cap. The NBA is a joke
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it's LIVE
https://www.foxsports.com/live/fs1
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>>150833772
buy an ad
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Anyone know where you can buy one of these cuck curtains? I think me, my wife and her boyfriend could have some fun with one of these
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>>150833425
>>150833460
>>150833704
>>150833713
>>150833748
You people are worse than Ravens fans. Mutthomes simply isn't Superman like Nick Wright has tried to trick you into believing.
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hey mom get the camera Tom Brady is cheating again
Tom Brady is the Messi of American football
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>>150833799
see
>>150833108
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>>150833802
based bird bros
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>>150833771
okay, replace harden with kareem
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>>Since Caleb Williams told P Tory Taylor "You're Not Going To Punt Too Much Here" Taylor has punted 92 Times, more than any other player in the NFL.
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>>150833772
mossad pls go
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>>150833823
Did Daniel Jones tell his punter to expect a lot of work?
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>his team isn’t on the float
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Get on the float, goy
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>>150833823
Probably has to do with the fact that he can't throw an accurate pass
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>>150833842
>>150833861
LET ME OFF THE FLOAT
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>>150833813
All done before the Fangio-ification of NFL defenses. He's a bum in today's league.
NFL - Not For Long
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why'd the raiders give Jeanty so few touches? was his pass pro really that poor?
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>>150833799
He’s the last QB you could say that about. For his three rings he:

>Had an all-timer comeback against the 49ers
>Had an all-timer comeback against the Eagles, with TURF TOE
>Had an all-timer comeback against the 49ers

For all 3 rings he’s the one who put on the cape and marched down the field to victory. You’re the one who’s ridiculous still acting like he’s in his rookie season and hasn’t proven anything. You are in your own world. Get a fucking grip x
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he actually did it he dropped mahomes off the top of the mountain
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A truly useless stat
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>>150833799
Mahomes is way overdue to have a bad season
>2018 Lost AFCCG, Won MVP
>2019 Won Superbowl
>2020 Lost Superbowl
>2021 Lost AFCCG
>2022 Won Superbowl, Won MVP
>2023 Won Superbowl
>2024 Won Superbowl
I'm a proud Mahomes nuthugger but not even he can keep going to Super Bowls and AFCCGs forever.
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fraudulent ring btw
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>>150833708
Marino was putting up numbers comparable to what the best qbs are doing now back when you could beat the shit out of qbs and try to knock receivers unconscious. He would have like 6k yards and 60 TDs in this era. Modern passing numbers mean absolutely nothing
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>>150833898
riggi
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>>150833898
Chip Kelly has gotten weird with jeanty. He did the same with shady. Jeanty isn't doing it. I Think David will step in eventually. He's trying to micromanage him. Diet, sleep. Eat piss shit schedule, how he stands pre snap, the angle of his feet on cuts, it's getting weird
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>>150833920
>2019
Loaded offense against a fraudulent 9ers team
>2022
Officials won that game + got a do-over against Cincy
>2023
Defense won that game
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Apologize to Nick Wright. He is fair and balanced.
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>>150833962
Kek plonked. Stink as
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>>150833942
I don't buy that because I saw the teams he played in Miami in the 80s and 90s low taxes usually no salary cap or one the owner went around in perfect weather 8 games of the year against players would wouldn't even be college starters in today's college ranks.
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>>150833966
>lamar over allen
terrible
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>>150833966
If Mahomes isn’t #1 right now, it’s Allen. To make it Lamar feels very Jewish
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>>150833935
The person who created this doesn't know how charts are supposed to work.
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Notice those advertisements with the strange singing and talking babies riding a float with the Rizzler? Yeah. Not only is it made by artificial intelligence, the commercial is also a Satanic overture to spiritually destroy your soul. And jews are happy to oblige. Each time it plays and each time you watch the commercial from start to finish, the Jewish overlords are sucking out your connection to God, inserting the spiritual essence into themselves before imbibing on Adrenochrome and other forbidden substances. Pretty horrifying, huh?
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>>150833966
replace mahomes with danny dimes
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>>150833966
>Penix dropping
WTF for?!
He played fine considering it was a road game against a very good defense. Its not his fault Bijan is elite
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>>150833895
Fangio unironically ruined the league. QBs were all gunslingers in the modern NFL. Now he turned them into checkdown charlies and game managers. His cover 2 variations changed the league.
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>>150833990
>switched the VPN off
Stink as
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>>150833966
>mahomes above a bunch of qbs with winning seasons
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>>150833944
i don't mind them fixing his first step after the snap (in college i remembered he used to take a step backwards and push off when you really should just get all your momentum moving forward) but the other shit feels unnecessary and his body language shows it
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>>150834000
How do you come to know ball on such a level?
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>>150834004
winning isn't a qb stat
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I plonked that stink as bussy
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>>150834000
I will parrot this take because it got trips
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>>150834013
it's the only stat that matters
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>>150834002
Now yuo see…
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>>150833966
penix going down is baffling and i thought he'd bust with the falcons
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>>150834000
>he unironically mourns the death of YEETball
Dragons should be earned
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>>150834002
>Germany falling for schizo rhetoric

Why am I not surprised kek
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>>150833998
>>150834031
He's doing it to keep Lawrence and Caleb there, two of his pet projects.
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>>150833942
They have no idea bro
Not saying Marino was some God or something I loved the guy but he would eat these teams alive these days.
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My Penix feels like it’s about to bust when it sees that Colts owner’s jugs.
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>>150833988
>>150833982
I usually hate on Allen, but the way he beat Lamar in that comeback win should put him on top. Head to heads should matter.
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>S-schizos! Some Americans use kiwi slang, so what?
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>>150834000
>they cant figure out cover two
theres a reason fangio wasnt shit before the zoomers all became starter qbs. any normal qb in the 2000s would shred cover two its the basic bitch zone cover
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>>150834008
Davis or someone will step in. He can't read presnap, that's why he's like fuck this. That's why he stands up. He does a bell thing with the step back at times.
Closest pro comp is emmitt Smith but he can't read pre snap in a crouch and can't set up his stagger steps or hesitation junks.
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>>150833974
None of that changes the fact that defense has been legislated out of the modern game and all offensive stats are grossly inflated

Also free agency didn't exist in the 80's so Florida having no taxes was a moot point
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>>150833989
The chart was made specifically to show that the eagles snap the ball later than anyone else
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>>150834062
>Show me a photo of you with your friends otherwise I'm gonna throw a wobbly for hours!!!!!

KWAB
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>>150833942
Don't forget he was doing it with bums for weapons in comparison to Manning's and Mahomes'.
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Does tua make it beyond buffalo?
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So called GOAT is winless with mid numbers. When and why did the refs quit propping up this guy's team and career?
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Just found out that Dicker the Kicker is Chinese
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>>150834069
>>150833895
Cover 2 only took off since RBs got devalued in the modern NFL. Back in the early 2000s you couldn't spam cover 2 since elite RBs would feast.
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>>150834143
That seems fraudulent, almost like an indian canadian.
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>>150833308
All part of the plan
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>>150834083
>both axes measuring the same stat at different thresholds instead being independent variables with correlative relation
They could have made their point, however dumb it is, by using a single axis bar chart with 2 colors per bar. The way they illustrated it is pure retardedness.
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>>150834056
He’s just an obviously better quarterback. I’m a Chiefs fan and I’d be comfortable having Allen #1 right now (not career wise obvs, just in terms of rn). I would NOT be comfortable having anyone else over Mahomes, in any world. Nobody else is close.
It’s said a lot by redditors, but it really is like he was made in a lab. He can tuck and run with the physicality of a Gronk, throws perfect passes at every depth of the field, and can read defenses. Lamar is also very talented but there’s a clear gap between Mahomes/Allen and Lamar. I know stats make it seem closer but like, just watch them play lol.
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Patty Cuckitini
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>>150834000
Fangio is based for BTFOing zoomers and making the Run Game Great Again.
>>150834155
This. You couldn't play 2 deep against AP, CJ2K, etc. Great RBs are why Carroll's Cover 3 D became so popular, allowed you to play 7 or 8 in the box.
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Nick wrong finally moved mahomes down the mountain after a season of mediocrity and closes losses, a Super Bowl loss, a loss to the chargers and now eagles
HES EATING CROYS
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>>150834051
Can you imagine what Jerry Rice would do in the "you can't touch receivers any more" era? Dude put up untouchable career numbers despite the fact that he played most of his career in an era where you could openly headhunt receivers while they were going for the ball. If he didn't even have to worry about getting his ribs broken while making the catch it would be like flag football to him.
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Just like Americans use German slang sometimes. I remember all die Spasti-posting
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>>150834193
>Flag on!!
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>>150834138
When the swifties didn't translate into sustainable dollarydoos.
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there's something really attractive about drake maye's movements, a real beauty to his body mechanics. it's a joy to watch this guy throw on the run
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>>150834239
This isn’t your padded room.
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>>150834222
checked for 100% accuracy hahaha holy hell
Seriously some of the rule changes make sense but some of it is very blatant. Rice is another example that would just feast in the modern NFL.
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>>150834098
Stop the bullshit myth that Mahomes has weapons. He had Tyreek and Kelce for 3 seasons but has had arguably the worst WR corps for the last 5 seasons. No Chiefs WR has had 1k yards since Tyreek left. Even Brady had WRs who put up 1,200 yards back in his 20s and that was in the defensive era.

Belichick consistently gave Brady the best defense but Reid has NOT consistently given Mahomes an elite offense.
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>>150833011
Black don't crack
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>>150833066
>Chicago thought the Bears were a legitimate Superbowl contender SOLELY because they got Caleb Williams
HE NEEDS MORE HEEEEEEEEEEEELP
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I looked up "stink as" and the AI just told me it's an incomplete sentence and gave me the definition of stink
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And a second Jake Delhomme interception has hit the towers
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look at this boston linebacker that was on a bodycame vid
you know this dude would fit right in on the patriots line
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>>150834217
Yet you guys argued he was biased this entire time.
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>>150834284
cam* kek
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>>150833990
Lol
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>>150834266
>but has had arguably the worst WR corps for the last 5 seasons
Not even close, anon.
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>>150834309
Retard
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>>150833966
>0-2
>3 game losing streak
>last place in the division
>1 TD per game
>okay, I'll drop him all the way to #2

This is why no one can stand Chiefs fans.
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>>150834275
It’s apparently kiwi slang. I refuse to learn how it’s actually used and am just using it to punctuate all sentences from now on
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>>150833376
Absolutely insane that these two games cemented Brady as the undisputed GOAT that will probably never be beaten.
>Mahomes wins the AFCCG and the subsequent owl
>Mahomes wins against Tampa
>Mahomes has 5 and Brady has 5, with mahomes having 2 wins directly through Brady
Meanwhile in reality
>7 to 3
>10 appearances to 5
>2 of Brady's owls coming DIRECTLY through beating Mahomes
Those two games cemented the narrative forever.
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>>150834266
So far I've heard
>Andy Reid is better than belichick
>Kelce is up there right next to Jerry Rice
>Josh Simmons is the next Trent Williams

So what is it?
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this does not instill confidence
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>>150834318
They're not even close to the worst anon. Mid, yeah I'd agree.
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>>150834330
t. Chiefs victim
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>>150834309
>2022
JuJu and MVS are his starters
>2023
Toney and Skyy are his starters and they had a historically bad drop rate
>2024
He lost his WR1, WR2, RB1, and RB2
>2025
He lost his WR1 and WR2

Find me any QB with a worst WR situation than this in the last couple of season.

>>150834330
Daniel Jones has one good game and people like you would try to put him on top.
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>>150834391
That’s nice. You’re retarded. In 2023 they were very arguably the worst. NOW, with Rice and Worthy and Hollywood, they’re mid
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>>150834385
Did you miss where tua told the press that he told tyreek and waddle to be ready to run back on a route and he can't throw as far anymore just the other day? I think he's fully buckbroken now kek
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Can't stop thinkin bout dem boyz
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Nick Saban will be the Miami Dolphins' next HC, you heard it here first. He still has a good relationship with the Dolphins ownership and he still has a desire to coach.
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>>150834385
Josh Allen's brain still seems to work too
Tua failed to mention that
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>>150834392
>no meme arrow
You guys really are underage newfags.
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>>150834415
Pats
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>>150834299
they're baiting defenses for later in the year clearly
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more like kansas city cheeks cause they are so ass lmao
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>>150834350
It is a Kiwi saying but I didn't post it and that's absolutely not what it means kek AI is retarded. "Stink as" means something is disappointing generally. I've never heard anyone here use it as a positive expression or as a synonym for impressive. "Mean as" is what Kiwi's (bogan ones) would say for something positive
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>>150834428
Based pedo chiefs fan
Redundant, I know
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>>150833628
>Kelce gets dumped by Swift
>Goes back to fucking big booty black women
>Has back to back 1500 yard seasons
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>>150834383
Reid and Kelce are better but Mahomes got them relatively late in their career. He'll only get 10 years of prime Reid whereas Brady got 2 decades of Belichick.
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>>150834475
holy shit you destroyed him
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>>150834383
>Andy Reid is better than belichick
Unironically Reid is a Mahomesbabby. Belichick deserved half of the credit of the Patriots dynasty because he was a DEFENSIVE coach, and basically left the offense to Tom. It was a good balance.
Reid is an OFFENSIVE coach, and the only reason his offense is netting him rings is because of Mahomes. Spags also has been arguably more important than Reid.
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>>150834415
Titans since trading AJ Brown. Cleveland too.
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>>150834463
Stink as you mean?
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Plot twist: she breaks up with kelce for trent mcduffie and says she did it for "the memes"
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>>150834392
>Chucky "I can't bleed" cuck
Spilling neck spaghetti
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The myth of Mahomes having great weapons has to end.
>2022 JuJu and MVS are his starters at WR
>2023 Toney and Skyy are his starters and they had a historically bad drop rate
>2024 He lost his WR1, WR2, RB1, and RB2
>2025 He lost his WR1 and WR2
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>>150834468
Thank you based kiwi for the explanation of the kiwi slang that the Not the Kiwi Chiefs-obsessed American flag posted
“Mean as” doesn’t pop nearly as much and will not be added to my lexicon
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>>150834266
Ah yes, let's talk about such amazing receiving talent like uhhhh... Deion Branch I guess that he had in his 20s. I can't remember a single WR he had that put up stats like that until he was in his 30s and finally had Moss exiting his prime and Welker to throw to. Brady made the most out of garbage cans because Belichick never wanted to spend money on his weapons.
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>>150834486
>Kelce better than Jerry Rice
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>>150833966
Caleb being ON the mountain already destroys any legitimacy this could potentially have. Nick's obsession with mulatto "DUAL THREAT" QBs just because he has a black wife (and unironically a MY WIFE'S SON) bleeds into his opinions so much.
He wishes he was black so badly, it's palpable.
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>>150833199
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Shanahan is a ref away from being a two time SB winner. Nobody has been fucked over more than him during the fraudulent Chiefs run
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>>150834559
i am a certified pats hater, but i've lived up here the pasts decade plus for work-
look past troy brown and deion branch
randy moss was awesome for about a year and he didn't win it all with him
welker was great for a longer stretch but he didn't win with him
Gronk was the best tight end on the planet and to anyone with a brain should count as a good receiving weapon
Edelman was really good, especially in the playoffs, and had great numbers in big games
he consistently had the best receiving rbs as well (faulk, vereen, woodhead, etc)
Even Hernandez was a beast while he was playing
he had weapons
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Wanna hear a joke?
>Gayleb
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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so who is the guy who best fits what we used to call the dalton line? tlaw? darnold? maybe kyler?
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>>150834000
They're check down Charliea because you have all these retarded "dual threat" mobile QBs that don't know how to read routes and go through their progressions while maneuvering in the pocket. Because the INSTANT the pocket even begins to collapse these guys just run all over the fucking place.
And since quarterbacks are not football players and cannot be tackled normally, they get away with it.
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>>150834441
>traded the 2nd round WR they just drafted a year ago
The heck are they doing over there?
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>>150834468
>I didn't post it
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>>150834266
Belichick consistently gave Brady leftovers and he made elite receivers out of them. Troy Brown was an 8th round pick. Wes Welker wasn't drafted at all. Edelman was a 7th round pick who DIDN'T EVEN PLAY WIDE RECEIVER. Even Moss was a bargain bin acquisition. Everyone forgets he was traded for one measly fourth rounder because no one even wanted him.

Brady spent his entire career making do with whatever the Pats could get without spending too much money or draft capital at the receiver position. What Mahomes is putting up with now was just normal for Brady. Hard, isn't it?
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>>150834738
bang on mate its stink as these kiwis think they can come around here like this
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>>150833442
based Ravens
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>>150834415
First off, you have a HoF TE & offensive HC. The former is constantly beating zones and giving your QB easy checkdowns. The latter is constantly setting pick/rub plays to give your QB hilariously easy YAC plays.
With that out of the way:
>2022
>JuJu and MVS are his starters
Who were, at the time, winnable starters. Quit acting like they were bad. Pacheko and McKinnon also were great backs for you that season.
>2023
>Toney and Skyy are his starters and they had a historically bad drop rate
Again, winnable starters and I also recall Rice being great down the stretch + Hardman playing great in the Owl. You also still had MVS playing winnable ball for you.
>2024
>He lost his WR1, WR2, RB1, and RB2
Worthy, D-Hop, Juju, and Hollywood were all available in the Owl and winnable players.
>2025
>He lost his WR1 and WR2
Thornton gets open every play and your QB always seems to miss him...
Oh, and Hollywood has been playing well.
>>150834422
>Mahomes just caint win with these cats!
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>>150834056
On top of all of this, it's pretty undisputed that Allen has a significantly worse team. Jackson has a top 3 RB, a pro bowl TE, and solid receivers, with a reliable, albeit older and well outside of his prime, DeAndre Hopkins.
The fact that Allen is doing statistically better and winning comparable to Jackson should tell you all you need to know.
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>>150834266
they're not the worst retard do you watch teams like the panthers and chargers. when you factor in the refball advantage they've been above average
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Gay as
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As as
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>>150834715
Shanahan is ahead of the curve by getting a guy like purdy who can process properly. He wouldn't anything special 20 years ago but he's thriving now because everyone else is too retarded to use guys like him.
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>straight qbs
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>>150834626
trvke
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>>150833565
>>votes 0 for the broncos, chargers, raiders, ravens, bengals, bills, eagles, lions, rams, and bucs
Those teams suck though
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>>150834818
Point is, both have less to work with than Mahomes and are playing better.
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>>150833565
Chad
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>>150834867
bro he gots da flu
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>>150834867
Sweetie if Mahomes had Derrick Henry at running back the Chiefs would be the first team to go undefeated and win the super bowl
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Playing defense seems way more fun than playing offense ngl
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>>150834559
Mahomes had 3 seasons with an elite WR Tyreek and Brady had 3 seasons with an elite WR Moss so they cancel out. Brady had Gronk for his entire career, Mahomes got Kelce late in his career.

>Troy Brown
He had 1,200 yards back in the defensive era. Meanwhile Mahomes current crop of WRs can't get over 980 yards in this era you keep telling me is easy. So if Troy Brown is bad what the fuck does that say about Mahomes current WR corps?

I'd take Deion Branch and David Givens who put up 800-990 yards back in the 2000s. If you adjusted for eras, that's 1k yards in today's games.
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>>150833565
probably somebody cool that doesn't make gay lists online
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>>150834918
it is until the refs punish you for doing your job
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>>150834916
and if I had wheels I'd be a wagon!
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>>150834860
>fellow AFCW rivals, as well as teams likely to be rated high who he doesn't want to threaten the chiefs' spot in the average ratings
seen it hundreds of times it's lowest effort cheesing
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>>150834377
Checked and correct

Brady was already far enough ahead that it was going to be an uphill battle but stealing 2 rings from Mahomes at an age when most qbs are already retired was just a deathblow. This GOAT conversation is so pointless because the debate was definitively ended years ago
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>>150834626
Many people are saying this
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>>150834937
>geno smith has a better record than the chiefs
embarrassing
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>>150834916
I seem to recall him having Leveon Bell & Shady for a while (plus the regular loaded offense) and not doing much
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>>150834918
Only certain players get to touch the ball on offense and most touch it only on certain plays. On defense everyone gets to tackle and be the bad guy
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Why doesn't he just get immunized like Aaron Rodgers?
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>>150834392
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>>150834377
This is true unless Mahomes surpasses 7 rings which is very possible
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>>150834626
He wouldn't have had to worry if the retard would just run the damn ball and learn to manage the clock better.
Dipshit is the main reason why the niners get so far and always the reason why they can't win the big one.
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>>150834918
It is pretty fun, you don't worry about getting the ball every play and you get to go hard as fuck trying to rough people up every play
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>>150834922
Brady won two straight owls when his leading receiver couldn't get more than 874 yards and 3 TDs. Mahomes sucks without the best receiving tight end in NFL history. sorry bro.
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>>150834928
This lmao

>>150834951
>seen it hundreds of times
Maybe because it's true
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>"There is no room for rationality because it is open season on the Miami Dolphins. You could say whatever you would like and its gonna stick. You could say Mike McDaniel's an alien and that's the reason he shouldn't be, he doesn't belong coaching the Miami Dolphins. And truthfully speaking, I can't discredit you." - Omar Kelly, Miami Herald talking about the Miami Dolphins on his Dolphins in Depth podcast/show
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>>150834998
>which is very possible
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>>150834867
>Jackson has less to work with than Mahomes
Jesus Christ what? I hate the chiefs as much as the next guy, but come on man. Mahomes right now has Kelce and who the fuck else?
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>>150835069
Name the deep threat receivers that Lamar has.
I'll wait.
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>QB hands it off
>RB gets plonked immediately
Kek I was not prepared for the fucking hilarity of this. This is even better than the pantomime RBing/QBing thing they do to confuse the defense
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>>150833066
He had 3 seconds before Hutch touched him. I’m not going to pretend the bears have a good o line, but he’s given enough time to get the ball out. Gayleb is so bad.
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>>150835057
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>>150834815
>JuJu and MVS are his starters
>Who were, at the time, winnable starters.
JuJu got benched by the Patriots and was on his way out of the league before the Chiefs called. MVS got kicked out of the league as soon as he left the Chiefs. MVS is elite in the playoffs but is a no show in the regular season.

>Toney and Skyy are his starters and they had a historically bad drop rate
>Again, winnable starters and I also recall Rice being great down the stretch
LOL. Pretend like you watched Chiefs games. Toney played volleyball with the football and led to multiple turnovers. He was so mentally ill he got kicked out of the league. Skyy was a complete bust that couldn't catch the ball. Rice was just a rookie and was forced to be a starter since those guys were playing so bad. Rice is elite, but can't seem to stay on the field.


>He lost his WR1, WR2, RB1, and RB2
>Worthy, D-Hop, Juju, and Hollywood were all available in the Owl and winnable players.
Worthy is a 169lbs rookie, the fact that he was a starter is telling. Hollywood missed the entire regular season and was too rusty to make an impact in the owl. Dhop was coming off of a minor ACL tear, joined the team too late to learn the playbook, and was contractually obligated to have x amount of receptions to avoid the Chiefs losing a draft pick.


>He lost his WR1 and WR2
>Thornton gets open every play and your QB always seems to miss him...
The same Thornton who was too bad to make the Patriots practice squad so they removed him?

>>150834778
see
>>150834922
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>>150834922
Brady came back from 25 down in the Superbowl with no Gronk throwing to undrafted white manlets.
Mahomes is 0-2 because he's missing Rashee Rice. Stop that.
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>>150835098
Are we pretending Flowers is bad and not one?
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>>150835060
Big Media is trying to tear another successful black man down
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Kansass Shitty Cheeks
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Kelce is washed and needs to retire ASAP
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>>150834819
>panthers and chargers
The fact that you have to bring up the Panthers and Chargers speaks volumes.
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>>150834989
>avg Chiefs hater ball knowledge
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>>150834922
>>150835134
Write a 5000 word essay about it
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>>150832895
ok i know hes /nfl/s favourite player and everyone constantly sucks his dick here but can we finally start to consider the fact this lil zesty nigga might be a bust?
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>>150835098
zay is good now
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>>150835176
no he needs more help
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what a fucking BOLD FACE LIAR
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>>150835169
Speaking of which, I think that Chiefs anon deserves an apology.
He was clearly right about you, and everyone laughed at him.
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>>150835176
Wasn't Jordan Love super inaccurate at first too until a switch flipped and he became good?
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>>150835169
Let's all do it 1 word at a time. I'll start:

Dear
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If the Chiefs lose to the Giants on Sunday, im gonna laugh.
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>>150835192
THE QUANTUM TUSH PUSH
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>>150835196
This you lil bro? You gonna cry and accuse me of having New Zealand newspapers shipped to Detroit again? KWAB
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>>150835201
No, he's still the same guy, but with more restraint, he's taming his inner Jameis Winston
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>4th in passer rating at 120.0
>8th in QBR at 78.2
>4th in PFFs offense grade at 86.7

>not a top 10 QB according to unemployed viqueen niggers in /NFL/
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>>150835192
that autosomal dna goes hard
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this bussy goes hard
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>>150835225
>Th-this you bro?
No bud kek. How many random screenshots that hurt your feelings do you have saved?
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the new zealand ravens fan and the new zealand chiefs fan need to meet up and have a fight to the death
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>>150835151
Yep you caught omar
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They try to make it look like howie go his job because of perseverance, 100s of more qualified people apply every year, he got his foot in the door because he’s a Jew
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>>150835263
I want to meat up with a nice black man to put his penis in my mouth. Go Lions
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>>150835176
Caleb and Rome are the only good picks Ryan Poles has made. He made his career off of fleecing the Panturds and almost every single decision since has been retarded.
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>>150834998
>yeah all mahomes has to do is get to 5 more superbowls and win them all
>or get to 8 more superbowls and win 5 of them
>this is very possible
That would mean that, assuming he wins 5 fucking bowls in a row, he'd be 35 at the absolute youngest. I would not call that "very possible". And seeing as how his legs and mobility are a core component of why he's so good, he's not going to play until his mid 40s. Brady had more longevity because he came from the era where you had to deliver from the pocket, and running was a last resort. Mahomes isn't going to be pushing 40 and scrambling behind the LoS for 25 seconds.
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>>150835263
I would love to fly over to Kiwiville kick this retard’s ass irl, he’s one of the rare people in the world that really does need his ass kicked
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>>150835176
>ok i know hes /nfl/s favourite player and everyone constantly sucks his dick here
Nice headcanon, faggot. This is a hivemind of GODleb haters.
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>>150835150
>>150835183
Zay is a slot receiver. Very good at what he does, but not really a deep ball guy. Mahomes 2-3 deep ball guys.
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>>150835290
old gay or the chiefs one?
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>>150835295
how do you rate Jordan love as a QB?
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>>150835004
Nah the fix was in. Had the Niners played better, they would have got fucked over harder
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>>150835286
Brady went 10 years without winning a ring and ended up with 7. Mahomes goes to the super bowl every year and you think it’s impossible for him to get to the same number? You’re not thinking logically.
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>>150835264
selling out a fellow brotha, shameful
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>>150835280
i think this is 90 percent of why hes hyped so much
he is good, but he gets glazed more than every other GM combined, there are other good ones who people barely know. the media just loves to shill him..
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>>150835309
Top 12 definitely but pushing into top 10 with how he's looked through two games. He's streaky like Herbert but much better than I thought he'd be pre draft in 2020
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>>150835315
it is our year
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>>150835317
Mahomes has been washed for 2 seasons and his mobility already is declining
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>>150835315
>week 2
Pointless graph
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>>150833109
The white QB marches on.
>5 white vs white matchups
No more brother wars
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>>150834385
>Tua destroying his own confidence
Welp.
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>>150835339
Neither statement is even worth engaging with, the adults are speaking
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>>150835118
:(
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>>150833109
the white man (spencer rattler) marches on
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>>150835332
fair and honest assessment my friend :)
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>lol kiwi gay
>NOOOOO DA FUCKIN JOOZ
is probably my favorite part of /sp/ lol it's just so stupid like watching a moron explain to an idiot why he's retarded
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>>150835176
Hey, good call, guy. You wanna know who the next Caleb is? Cam fucking Ward. I told this board before the draft that Ward was overrated trash and everyone mocked me.
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>>150835361
My favorite is when he starts randomly interviewing himself like random people seek his football wisdom
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>>150835176
Caleb is going to be the next Justin Fields, it's never going to be his fault even when he airmails it to open receivers, it's not his fault.
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Reminder that the kiwifag had Geno in his elite QBs list. This fucker doesn't know ball.
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>>150835375
And Bo Nix and Jalen Milroe lol
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>>150835375
How could any foreigner know ball?
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>>150835317
Mahomes is going to get significantly worse with age since so much of his game relies on his mobility. This is true for a lot of other QBs as well. There's a reason why Stafford, Rogers, Brady, and even Russel Wilson last so long. This isn't to say that Mahomes is a shit pocket passer, but one reason he's so good is because of his ability to extend plays and scramble out to make a 7 yard sack into a 13 yard gain. Teams play him and a guy like Stafford ridiculously differently. This ability to scramble does not get better with age. I'm not saying Mahomes can't do it, but his odds are only going to go down with each year.
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Allen.... give us the superbowl.... get us the trophy
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>>150835349
It’s not a argument it’s a fact
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>>150835192
Chiefs move early on both sides of the ball
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>>150835395

sorry buddy but they play in buffalo and nothing good is allowed to happen to them (their misery is completely deserved, mind you)
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>>150835373
Anything else?
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>>150835388
There will be a point that he falls off like Rodgers and it’s simply over but there’s a chance for him to get to like 8 before that if everything goes well. To put it simply, he’s not going 10 years without a ring
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>>150835361
He essentially admitted it. Not sure if it's the same anon but one person who calls me "Kiwi tranny" and other plonked shit posted pic related. Check the nose lel

>>150835375
>kiwifag had Geno in his elite QBs list

Literally never happened. Typical obsessed mutt goblin making up shit again. How's the nose?
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>>150835134
>JuJu got benched by the Patriots and was on his way out of the league before the Chiefs called. MVS got kicked out of the league as soon as he left the Chiefs. MVS is elite in the playoffs but is a no show in the regular season.
Irrelevant, they played very well in that season. Other teams' inability to deploy talent has nothing to do with whether the players were good elsewhere.
>LOL. Pretend like you watched Chiefs games. Toney played volleyball with the football and led to multiple turnovers. He was so mentally ill he got kicked out of the league. Skyy was a complete bust that couldn't catch the ball. Rice was just a rookie and was forced to be a starter since those guys were playing so bad. Rice is elite, but can't seem to stay on the field.
Still had MVS, Hardman, and a good running game, not to mention the defense being elite.
>Worthy is a 169lbs rookie, the fact that he was a starter is telling.
He was a first round pick, I remember you guys taking victory laps after drafting him.
>Hollywood missed the entire regular season and was too rusty to make an impact in the owl. Dhop was coming off of a minor ACL tear, joined the team too late to learn the playbook, and was contractually obligated to have x amount of receptions to avoid the Chiefs losing a draft pick.
Mental gymnastics, they're good receivers, period.
>The same Thornton who was too bad to make the Patriots practice squad so they removed him?
The Patriots, who just traded their 2nd round WR for pennies, are a good example of player evaluators now?
Address my point about him being butt ass naked open down the field and Mutt routinely missing him.
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>>150835407
>leave average
nfl journalists seem kinda dumb sometimes idk
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>>150834922
>If you adjusted for eras
Oh so we're doing that now but only when it suits you huh? Fascinating.
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>>150835406
May your table cry out for mercy!
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>>150835424
They're pretty retarded, ironic since sports journalists are all analytics nerds now
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>>150833108
>0-2
KWAB
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Reminder that the kiwi was mugged and hospitalized in the searing summer of 2017.

https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/149938577/#q149941549
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>>150835418
It must be hard being (You)
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>>150835422
>Address my point about him being butt ass naked open down the field and Mutt routinely missing him
Nta, but he missed him once and immediately made up for it.
Receivers take time to build chemistry with quarterbacks, Thornton is new. Their timing is still off
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>>150835388
>Mahomes is going to get significantly worse with age since so much of his game relies on his mobility
Mahomes had less rush yards than Purdy in 2024.

Mahomes is not a rush QB, he's a scrambling QB like Rodgers and Steve Young. Those players last forever whereas rushing QBs like Allen take too much damage. Lastly, Mahomes does NOT QB sneak so that's less damage he'll take.

>>150835416
Rodgers won back to back MVPs in his late 30s. I think the only reason he fell off is due to his achilles tear. Scrambling QBs like Rodgers and Mahomes can last forever if they don't get a career altering injury.
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Caleb is entering year 2 where things often click for QBs. His WRs are upgraded with the tandem of DJ Moore and Odunze being better than most can ask for. The WR they drafted is a legit deep threat that they can rotate out with a true X in Zacchaeus depending on the situation. Most importantly they landed the best Tackle in the draft who will solidify the right side of the line, but possibly play all around it wherever necessary.

The Bears are going to score points, that much is known, they put up points with an actual garbage Offense last year but just couldn't overcome the defense. Thankfully, they've made several key additions. They have objectively the best and deepest LB room in the league, which doesn't mean as much as it used to but in Flus' system LBs are largely impactful. They triple tapped at DT in the draft which is the engine of this scheme and will be able to create a constant wave of consistent play each game with the depth that was already there. It's not much but it's enough to take pressure off the honestly great secondary which was the only bright spot on defense last year.

Most importantly it's enough to make sure the Bears will actually be able to close out games this year. With Ben Johnson on our side the division is basically ours, and with the NFC being so garbage the Conference should belong to us as well. Sorry Lions fans but Goff has zero DAWG in him unlike Caleb. TFWDBWDSO
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>>150835462
you should just reply to this guy with
>3.geno
whenever he makes a post, theres no comeback from that
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>>150835466
>>150835403
The regression is right here, it doesn’t matter what narratives you come up with
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>>150835465
Did he not miss him 2-3 times against the Chargers, too?
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>>150835416
There's a chance, but in 8 years he's won 3. Which is still WILDLY impressive. To say he'll win another 5 in 10 is to go well beyond what he's already done, all while getting older, going to eventually be more expensive unless he takes a pay cut, and losing guys like Kelce and defensive players as well.
All also assuming he never gets hurt enough to miss a season-ending amount of time. It's possible, but the odds are very very low, even for him.
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141 times and counting

"Not obsessed" :) keklmao
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>>150835473
geg
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>>150835496
>3.geno
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Reminder that the kiwi stole my bike. What a naggar
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>>150835462
kiwipussy will ignore this
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God it feels like fate to finally get into football and join the Bills Mafia in support.
MLB is great but the games dont feel impactful until late in the season.
NFL though? EVERY GAME MATTERS
and boy do I feel it.
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>>150835473
Too bad his LT is shit and the defense fell completely apart. Ryan Poles thought it was more important to draft pass catchers that don't even get reps in the game.
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>>150835496
>3. Geno Smith
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>>150835462
>taking obvious bait seriously

Holy kek you're retarded. Do you actually think I WAS SERIOUSLY rated Geno Smith 3rd best QB in the league over Mahomes, Hurts, Burrow Goff etc?? Dumbest mother fucker in the general confirmed
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>>150835513
Fill this bussy
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>>150835339
>>150835403
>>150835492
Mahomes' rate of making it to Superbowls is approaching 100% as he ages.

Meanwhile with Brady the opposite was true. Brady started out in his 20s winning 3 Superbowls and spent his late 20s getting bounced in divisional rounds or missing the playoffs. Who is regressing?
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>>150835495
Keep in mind he’s actually just entering the quarterback’s prime years, 5 in the next 10 is not that crazy when he started his career with 3 in 8 and making every AFCCG out of the gate. I’m not saying he’ll do it, just that there’s a real chance. It would depend on Veach actually putting a good enough team around him though which is increasingly becoming dubious. One of the issues in the coming years is the fact that due to all their success, everyone on the Chiefs essentially has tenure. Andy will never be fired, Veach probably won’t be fired either. So if they can’t do their jobs Mahomes may just be fucked
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>>150835522
desperate damage control, just wear your L
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>>150835522
>3.geno
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>>150833258
Without refball the Queefs won't even make it to the playoffs
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>>150835522
>t. mugged, hospitalized and wrong
kek what an insecure bitch
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>>150835456
LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
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>>150835522
>I was just trolling all along! W-what you thought I was serious haha? Schizo Alert!
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>aaron Jones out minimum 4 games for hamstring injury

Vikings not making the playoffs.
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>>150835522
kwab
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>>150835526
The guy who’s had a 1000 yard drop in two seasons and started 0-2
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>>150835060
McDaniel is a meme but the overcorrection has probably gone too far. He made the playoffs multiple times with this team and it's not like they were some juggernaut any retard could lead to a winning record. Tua is a midwit who throws with his non-dominant hand, has suboptimal range and unironically goes into convulsions after fairly routine tackles, Tyreek was a top tier receiver but he's also a cancerous front-running asshole making a loooot of money, and they have a few other good players but it's not like they had a terrifying defense or an elite o-line or anything.

How good were they ever supposed to be? A couple playoff appearances that didn't amount to much sounds about right to me. Was someone else winning a title with this team or something? Tua literally can't function in cold weather and they'd have to beat KC, Buffalo or Baltimore in the middle of winter to accomplish anything. It was never going to happen. They had a ceiling put on them the second they drafted him and it's not gonna change with a different coach. That extension was an enormous mistake.
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>>150835456
Geez, what a bitch. I hope bradysknee comes back on and bullies that kiwi faggot.
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>>150833442
Charlie Kirk had nothing to do with the NFL
These teams are based non-panderers
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>>150835522
retard
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>deleted his post
KWAB
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>>150835559
George Floyd has nothing to do with the NFL.
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>>150835319
kek, he's right though, if you told me mcdaniel was an alien i'd be like, yeah ok sure that explains some things
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>>150835422
>Still had MVS, Hardman
MVS had 300 yards and Hardman had 100 in 2023. Anon you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Quit embarrassing yourself.
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>is the started by week 5 in you're are path
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>>150835315
>bungles at 64% to make the playoffs
lol
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>>150835551
they were supposed to be better than 8-8, thats it. they aren't. they paid 212m for glass. that limits you greatly.
the point is mcdaniel isn't a coach, he's a great oc he's not a leader of men. he isn't the guy, tua isn't the guy grier isn't the guy.
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>>150835551
You now remember “cold is a mindset”
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>>150835593
AI makes better posts than the tripfag drama
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>>150833648
Possibly the most cringeworthy webm I've ever seen on /sp/
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>>150835465
mahomes throwing garbage time touchdowns against the eagles? never seen that before
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>>150835559
its America's game and Charlie Kirk is an the biggest American martyr of the century
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>>150833452
Almost anyone could beat the chiefs until they prove they can move the ball vertically. they can't separate from anyone
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>>150835549
Mahomes
>Won Superbowl
>Won Superbowl
>Lost Superbowl

Brady
>Lost Divisional
>Lost AFCCG
>Lost Superbowl

Ask Brady and Mahomes who did better in their late 20s and both will agree it was Mahomes. Chiefs fans can only dream he keeps "regressing" like this.
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>>150834608
You remember when he had Caleb ranked in the top 13 when he was still at USC right? Honestly that’s a career ending prediction, along with him being so high on Trevor Lawrence
He should be continually roasted for that
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>>150832926
>will have missed more games than pooa
lamo kkkkk. fuck joe reddit
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>>150835522
Go Bills
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>>150835629
To be fair, T-Law looked like he had the potential to be him, but he shit the bed hard.
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Did kiwibitch ragequit
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>>150835581
>treat the differently abled as equals!
>ok, I'll fuck the consenting adults with big fat asses then!
>NO, NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!
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>>150835645
Like always.
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>>150835621
>late 20s cope again
KWAB, see you Sunday when you lost to giants.
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>>150835641
Bills and bolts, right broship bro?
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>>150835621
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>>150833702
The issue isn’t putting it on tape. He’s scrambled in the playoffs or big games for years. The bigger issue is he has to scramble to keep drives alive because no one is getting open and they can’t run the ball normally.

Granted the eagles and chargers have good defenses so maybe these are exceptions but it doesn’t look good right now.
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>>150835621
It’s not a Brady Mahomes thing it’s Mahomes is regressing, which he is as proven statistical
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Every post I make is 100% serious especially this one >>150833308

Everyone should totally bet on the Giants beating the Chiefs by 3 scores :)
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>>150835551
See I don't really even know if McDaniels should be given the credit for those playoff appearances or if it was just residual from Flores building the team up and now they're so far removed from then that the wheels are falling off.
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>>150833988
>If Mahomes isn’t #1 right now, it’s Allen
Mahomes can be 4-0 against a guy in the playoffs yet the NFL media will rank him ahead. It's sad. I guess playoff games don't matter.
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>>150835656
>two AFC teams historically plagued by misery and a mutual hatred of mutthomo
Sure, but Dean Spanos is a huge faggot
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>>150835629
Anyone betting on anyone out of college is absolutely fucking braindead and doesn't know ball. The professional scouts, coaches, GMs, ex players, and people that do this for a living barely get it right. Yet this negro loving Jew sees a mulatto QB throw the ball across his body one time in college and goes "yup, I know he'll take a dogshit franchise like the Bears to the Superbowl."
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>>150835667
Kek, that webm
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>>150835661
The face I make every time I read /nfl/
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kc fans are really taking their ass beating hard huh
been seeing a lot of seethe
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>>150835669
>3. Geno
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>>150835583
>muh stats
Both guys made plays in the postseason when they needed them. Hardman immediately almost burning the 9ers defense probably won them the 3rd Owl imo.
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>>150835656
I saw the game last night while at work.
Co-worker almost made $300 if Geno made 20 more passing yards.
Too bad bower fumbled it one too many times.
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>>150835667
All me
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>>150835621
>Ask Brady and Mahomes who did better in their late 20s
Literally only (You) would bother asking such a dumbass question
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>>150835677
It’s a team game, why do chiefs fans discredit the whole team to glaze Mahomes?
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>>150835686
The meltdown will be glorious if the Aints pull off a win
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>>150835671
McDaniel should be given credit for working with some broken tools and doing something what he shouldn't be given credit for is NEVER FUCKING ADAPTING AFTER HE WAS IMMEDIATELY FOUND OUT AND HAS DONE NOTHING TO ADAPT SINCE KNOWING HE HAS A BROKEN FUCKING COCONUT RETARD WHO IS NOW AN OVERPAID ANCHOR THAT YOU ARE LEGIT STUCK TO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO GRIER AT THIS POINT
Also he's laughed at by the sports media and players for the team, which is basically a death sentence for a coach.
Worst yet? Grier and McDaniel both are making Ross the owner's life harder to the point of pressure now, dude just wants to show up in an owl before he fucking dies, not even win one kek
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>>150833119
it's won off refs letting your whole o-line get away with false starts on critical tush push plays
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>>150835677
Career wise there’s no comparison, Mahomes can only be compared to Brady, Manning and Montana. It’s just in terms of current playing level, it could be argued Allen is playing better lately
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>>150835686
The Eagles saved football.
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>>150835677
>I guess playoff games don't matter.
Wins are a QB stat
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>>150835677
If it's based solely on past accomplishments then it shouldn't even be a ranking system. Mahomes should be at the top and nothing short of another guy going back to back should even begin to usurp him.
It's, as they say, a rich tapestry.
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>kiwipussy still deleting his posts
LOL
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>>150835708
I KNEEL
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>>150835684
>when the chiefs fans are still crying about the tush push
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>>150835668
>Mahomes went to 3 straight Superbowls and won 2 of them and did it with the worst WR corps in the league, yet he's regressing
So if he's regressing what does that say about league MVP Allen and Lamar who he sent home crying when last seen in the playoffs?
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>>150835599
McDaniel doesn't seem like the sort of guy who's going to rally the troops and inspire people but I'm just saying, if you switched McDaniel with Shanahan or Reid tomorrow, does the situation get that much better? They bet it all on a replacement-level qb and doubled down even after it was clear he wasn't really the guy. This was always going to go downhill.
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>>150835680
THE ALLIANCE IS SEALED
THE BILLS WILL BE FACING THE BOLTS IN THE BROSHIP BOWL AFCCG!
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>>150835578
I didn't like that shit either
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>>150835697
Aints are in Seattle this sunday
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>>150835706
You could leave Brady out of that considering how far ahead of Mahomes Manning and Montana he is.
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>>150835720
>R-refball!
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EPSN last night every time Stroud had the ball:
>and here comes Stroud…Stroud with pressure…OH MY HERE GOES STROUD!!! STROUD!!!! HE’S THERE!!! OHHHHH HO HO MY!!! STROUD WITH THE INCREDIBLE PLAY!!!

>And itll be a 2 yard gain, 4th down coming up.


ESPN last night when Baker had the ball:
>The snap…
>…
>…decent pickup of 19 on the run by…uh…Mayfield. AND MAYFIELD IS HURT!! HES HURT…oh….nevermind.


why is this?
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>>150835712
bitchknees you mean?
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>>150835598
They absolutely will be in the playoffs
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>>150835723
Hope you like jumping through tables and drinking cheap Canadian beer
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>>150835737
>3. Geno
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>>150835721
I'm saying the expectation for Mcdaniel WASNT high and he didn't meet it when he had no excuses. It is too late now. He has to go to fix the systemic issues on the team he's part of it now just like tua and grier.
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>>150835734
Kek
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>>150835696
>>150835710
My bad, I forgot wins are only a QB stat if Tom Brady is mentioned and for everyone else it's a team stat. Mahomes putting up vastly superior stats in the playoffs than Allen should not be counted.
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>>150835617
He's some dead podcaster
The NFL doesn't owe him a "moment of silence" anymore than it owed one to the BLM coon
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everyone who knows ball knows that what Mahomes did in his early career as a starter was "magical"
he was obviously great but that "magic" was an aberration that was very unlikely to maintain itself

he has shown very little of that in the past couple years, was buoyed by insane refball and now it seems like even that has come to an end
he's looked like an above average starting QB and although he has already established himself as a first-ballot HOFer its very likely that the 2nd half of his career wont be all that exceptional
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>>150835741
Why yes I do enjoy jumping through tables in fact I’ll be witnessing Brock lesnar vs cena this Saturday! I got Brock by TKO!
And I’ll be drinking beer during! American though
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shut THE fuck up bitchknees
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>you simply HAVE to take every post seriously

Mindbroken mutt confirmed kek
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>>150835734
ESPN is like /nfl/ genera. overhype the black QBs and ignore WHITE EXCELLENCE.
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>>150835773
>3. Geno
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Will the giants winning finally shut up the queefs or will they still keep screeching?
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What does it mean to play like a Jet? Fumble the ball and commit a penalty?
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Reminder that the kiwi tongues negros anuses in outer space
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>>150835790
Many are saying this.
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>>150835765
N-no…
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>>150835403
What does this mean to you? Can you read?
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>>150835734
They love the young black QBs. It's why the rules were changed to where you can't tackle these fucks anymore. They knew the black QBs would never dominate a league where you actually had to deliver from the pocket.
It's why guys like Vick were so special. Because it was a time where you could actually tackle the QB and didn't have to worry about hitting them too hard or too late or them sliding or them running towards the sidelines or hitting them in the head or hitting them too low or getting one hand on their facemask .04 seconds after they throw the ball or all this other bullshit. Lamar Jackson would be fucking dead if they actually let defensive players tackle the QB.
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>>150835765
>he has shown very little of that in the past couple years
He went to 3 straight Superbowls and won 2 of them and put up cartoonishly great stats in the post season.
He averaged a 100 passer rating in the playoffs. Just to put that into context Burrow has played for 5 seasons and has NEVER accomplished it. Brady only had a passer rating above 100 a total of 4 times and he's played for 2 decades. Mahomes did it 5 times.
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>>150835762
this country was founded by polemicists you philistine and he was a prominent force in our political order and was killed for that
not at all comparable to some negro thug that overdosed
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>>150835754
Mahomes has always had possibly the best TE of all time to throw to
Allen has never had a solid receiver corps
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jenny told me to stop getting my hopes up for the poverty franchise known as the Las Vegas raiders
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>while your team is limited by silly things like wins and losses my team has ascended to the spiritual tourney in which the dolphins are spiritually 4-0 right now and you will never catch up
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recycle
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>>150835798
This is probably the first time I've seen Shaq being humbled
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>>150835801
Passer rating
There we go retard alert retard alert
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>>150835739
have you seen their schedule? they'll start the season 3-0 and be lucky to have 9 wins at the end
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>>150835809
>tfw you will never win the Superbowl spiritually
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>>150835804
Mahomes lost Tyreek in 2021. So Allen had Diggs and Mahomes had Kelce which cancel each other out. Then Kelce became old and Allen lost Diggs, so neither had an elite receiver and Mahomes still bested him. Quit making excuses.
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>>150835802
Whatever fag. I don't tune into sports to see politics, simple as
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>>150835827
I've seen it. They're 100% going to be in the playoffs



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