based grug

What was the crowd laughing at? Kia sucks?

Sinner, please save us

>>153234395
>crappy zoomer generation
i mean djokovic is almost 40 and mopping the floor with every zoomer except alcaraz and sinner

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9 slams in a row to sinnalcaraz. When will the streak end?

>AO runner up plate
Novak never got one, so kinda nice to round out the collection

What's JCF's reaction

Lmao. Should've read more mean tweets according to you guys. Lmao. Your indian goat lost saar. Lmao.

>>153234419
Go rewatch the Sinner match m8. He played aggressively in that one. Absolutely not even close tonight. And his serve was much worse as well.

>>153234439
If Novak ends the streak this generation is a joke.

Nole spent too much time writing jokes for his speech and not enough time in the gym

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>Fucking Djokovic stealing the attention even as a runner up speech
This motherfucker..

why do they let the loser get a speech? this doesnt happen in any other sport. carlos should push him out the way and take the mic, Kanye style

So what's the deal with the other tennis thread being filled with women's juniors experts?

Lmao he's STILL seething about getting deported

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stats

>>153234427
Sinner will probably has his best chance at IW, and USO after. I don't know if he'll reach the same form in the natural surfaces

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So that’s what it feels like to lift one of these

Trolling aside classy speech from Djokovic

>>153234439
Its kind of crazy that Alcaraz is only 22 still.
Sinner seems to be having real stamina/physique problems and will be 25 soon.

>>153234464
>experts
no I'm not, I just like the products

>Tara Djokovic moist status?
Flooding

>trophy for Samu Lopez
JCF rolling in his grave

>>153234452
I agree about the serve but he was outplayed tonight after the first set.

boomer bros on suicide watch

>>153234453
The bar is really in hell for this fucker, he gets his ass handed to him every single match and you fags still fantasize about him exposing this era

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>>153234479
>Now he knows

>>153234481
>class and NoVaxx in the dame sentence.
Lmao no.

>Mark Edmondson pretending to throw the trophy at Carlos
Would've been funny if he broke it

>>153234498
thats a propa scotsman!

>Carlos recognises Novak is the GOAT during his own winning speech
lol

>>153234479
>He has won so many first place trophies getting the ones for runner up feels as good since you're not used to
kek

>>153234481
I always like the one from Sissypas a couple years ago when he lost a final, pure class.

>>153234479
>it really is Joker's first runner-up KWAB dish

>>153234505
IN FRONT OF NADAL?
Dios mio!

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I win 6 or 7 slams now, no?

*furiously moves hands up and down*

>>153234496
>fantasize about him exposing this era
the fact that djokovic got to the semi of every slam last year already exposed this era

DUOLINGO STATUS?

Let's hope Grug's English skills don't stagnate like Nadal's did

Margaret Court will always be the goat

This was the most boring AO final for me since 2021 between Djokovic-Medvedev (the 7–5, 6–2, 6–2 massacre)

>>153234521
it\s improved already no?

Wait a minute... this almost sounds like djokovic's speech...

>>153234473
>high 1st serve % and low 1st serve points converted
>31w/43ue

yeah...novak basically lost it himself

>Carlos mimics Novak's game play
>Carlos mimics Novak's speech
Who is this fraud

sinner's only real advantage was hard court, carlos has now won two hc majors in a row. he needs to step it up massively

>>153234513
It's called etiquette

>22 years old
>Already knows both spanish AND english.
By 30 he's gonna know ALL the languages. Holy shit.

>>153234535
Scary to consider this might be carlos’ weakest surface

How long until they start getting Rafa to hand over the trophy at RG

So is it over for Novak? Will he ever reach another slam final? Is 25 only a dream?

>>153234518
The entirety of the *2 generations* of players after Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have been mind broken into not believing they can win and Sinner/Alcaraz are just the first ones to have the mental to preserve

>>153234526
You'd think so, but no, not really

>>153234505
Smart, call the guy he just beat a goat to make us all think

3-0, I leave the Djokohoes alone now, they have a lot to seethe and cope about

>>153234535
He can't, Alcaraz will beat him every single time he decides to not be a bozo

>>153234549
This had to be his best chance. Wimbledon isn't impossible, but this was far and away the most likely he's gonna have

Djokovic and Alcaraz dislike each other. Don't get that vibe with Sinner-Alcaraz or Djokovic-Sinner.

>>153234524
The semis were definitely better.

>>153234543
he's too good. i don't particularly care for sinner but it would be much more interesting if they're at least close in majors

>>153234543
Does Carlos Calendar Slam?

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Lena and Grug won

This was a good weekend :)

>>153234535
Sinner's too pecho frio to compete. Carlos is going to win at least 2 gs per year. he will pass Novak before turning 30.

>>153234524
>His sports literacy stops at stat sheets
Yikes! Both Djokovic and Alcaraz were at a very high level tonight. Sorry you missed it!

>>153234568
Yeah. Alcaraz-Zverev felt like a final. This felt more like an exhibition match after the first set

>>153234543
It really is, he can just camp baseline like Nadal on clay and increase the variety in his shots during Wimbledon, he's pretty much the only guy who you can honestly say can adapt his play style to the surfaces

>>153234549
needs luck again.
if he gets to skip a lot of time on the court again, or can skip playing carlos or jannik or both, he has a chance.

otherwise no chance for 25

>>153234574
Who will stop him? His pigeon Novak? Choker Zverev?? Sinner the chicken that lost a senior???

>>153234582
lmao what match were you watching? Chokovic had a great first set then turned to shit for the next 2 and was barely holding on in the 4th. Nadal remains the GOAT

>>153234574
he actually might

>>153234389
He simply didn't have a time for recovery like he did vs Carrot as he's geriatric patient

>>153234577
Spanish people look different from other euros, to be honest.

>>153234545
How long until they retire Philippe-Chatrier as the primary court and build a 20,000 seat "Rafael Nadal Court"?

>>153234574
if you mean this year it's too early to say, but he will do it at some point

>>153234593
Hey man, I get it! When you're not familiar with what you're watching, the stat line looks Alcaraz dominated, but if you actually watched the points,.you'd have seen some really thrilling back and forth games. Keep watching and it'll start to click in a few years.

Alcaraz on track for GOAThood

>>153234574
nah sinny is upping his closty dose and taking RG

Unironically which of the zoomies has a chance of winning a grand slam? I can't see anyone beating Jannik and Grug

>>153234589
Sinner just has NO.hear conditioning. Curse of being a Red Head. I think AO is going to be the toughest major for him over his career. I expect him to be much more competitive at Wimbledon

>>153234600
It'll be a cold day in hell before the French name something after a non-Frenchman
Phil had a laughably horrible record as a tennis player but they haven't changed it yet

>>153234600
he ain't french, the frogs are cucked, but they ain't relegating a countryman just for Nadal, the footprint is enough

Carlos' biggest weakness is having his level of play drop to top-15ish levels randomly in some of the earlier round games. I think he's mitigated it a lot more since last year though, other than that he's pretty much a final shoe-in to all the slams. Best of 3 matches on M1000s still some times catch off guard though,

>>153234619
>new 2 both getting the career slam in one year
Kino?

AlcaGOAT

>>153234627
I mean they built a fucking statue of the guy *while he was still actively playing there*. I get what you're saying, but no player has ever been associated with a tournament like Nadal and the French. Dude was 105-3 career all time or whatever? I think they can't NOT do it

>>153234618
He's going to break before.

so is ferrero really never coming back? kinda fucked up since he coached carlos from the start

>>153234625
Shelton has the best shot at challenging this era's big three. Mensik and Fonseca are talented but would need more things going their way.

>>153234646
Cope. He’s only getting better.

>>153234645
Their argument will be that the statue is enough
Nadal does have a court named after him in Spain though, obviously

>>153234632
it's kinda nuts that you can't even point to a technical flaw in his game, he's that complete

>>153234656
I'd love to see Ben win a major or two. And not that he ever will, but I've been pulling for Tiafoe for a couple years now. He's clearly a tier below, but he's a really likeable dude.

Alcaraz proving he's the actual boss on HCs. Sinner's nothing more than a glorified mentally weak vulture who feasted on weak HC Slams before Alcara got into his prime on HC.

>>153234656
>Shelton
Lol, lmao

>>153234663
Completely believable. I personally think they eventually do, but I would not be surprised if you're correct.

>>153234645
It's 112-4
He already has one named after him in Barcelona.
A court named after him at Roland Garros is too much. Statue +plaque is the limit. More would feel forced

>>153234656
I can agree only on Mensik and that's about 2-3 years from now

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>Novak

>>153234681
that plaque is such a meme, it would have been better to have a court named after him and nothing else

>>153234656
kek no chance, guy has a big serve and nothing else

>>153234681
>112-4
>More would feel forced
We've really lost perspective over the last 20 years, haven't we? It's difficult to understand how insane that is. Nothing close to that will ever, EVER, happen again. If they don't name a court after Nadal, it's difficult to imagine any future court ever being named for a former player ever again.

>>153234662
Agressive playstyles have a big toll.

>>153234690
No Spaniard is getting a court named after him in fucking Paris of all places. Just like Belgrade is not naming its main town square after Mehmed II or Ante Pavelic.

>>153234690
Absolutely agree, the shoeprint is not iconic at all, just feels like such a token effort with no actual respect in it

>>153234690
100%
Should have been a court, the print is stupid as hell.

>>153234667
Agreed and it’s improving quickly. His use of slice was deadly at times today and that wasn’t a shot he even had not long ago.

>>153234656
>Shelton
big serve with even less rally tolerance than Zverev, he's just gonna vulture any ATP title where Sincaraz doesn't play, so 500s/250s and the occasional Masters

>Fonseca
barely even 20 and already so brittle physically, he will never reach his potential from the looks of it he continues to get injured

>Mensik
probably the closest to them but still too early to tell unless he improves massively this year

My money's more on Tien to make that leap in a couple of years

>>153234701
i guess you're right, i was just looking at it from the perspective that less is more

Landaluce is on

When will novak actually retire? Next olympics?

>>153234732
that's the plan.

>>153234654
like Freud says, eventually you have to kill your father

>>153234654
from what i've read he didn't really coach him technical stuff, that was always samuel lopez. ferrero was more of a motivator

>>153234743
Kill the boy and let the man be born

>>153234749
Wasn't he his brain as well though? I swear there were times Carlos tennis IQ seemingly dropped when JCF wasn't there.

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Sinner sisters?

That old fuck just touched the trophy to move it into position. Jelena Dokic Said last night that she wasn’t allowed to touch Rybakina’s trophy in the same situation.

>>153234656
It’d be good if it was Draper.

>>153234792
Jim's a former champion, he has the right

>>153234761
>Wasn't he his brain as well though?
telling him where to serve occasionally is the most basic coaching, samuel lopez probably does that now
>I swear there were times Carlos tennis IQ seemingly dropped when JCF wasn't there.
iirc last year he had better results without him

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>>153234778
our time will come soon

Damn, we were 1 serve hold away from Novak's 25
He really is cursed to stay on 24

>>153234656
>Shelton
improving gradually but still doesn't have anywhere near the rally tolerance to win against Sinncaraz on surfaces where he has to actually play a point. and seems like too much of a broccolihead to develop good tactical sense. main chance at a slam will probably be to snatch a random Wimbledon or AO when Grug/Sinner have a lapse in their level, or are injured
>Mensik
has the tools + potential but not refined and consistent enough, might start contending in a few years
>Fonseca
has some big weapons but movement + raw athleticism isn't great, and elite court coverage is an absolute requirement for a consistent top player. though he's very young so has plenty of time to improve, too early to conclude anything yet

>>153234718
>Tien
likely going to have the Davydenko issue where the low-powered serve is a liability against elite returners, even with good placement, so he's always having to play catch-up on the numbers. if he reaches his maximum potential, maybe he could contest RG or USO, but barring some technical breakthrough seems more likely that he just becomes a staple 4R-SF type of player

>>153234877
holy based
(it's over)

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This is the worst day in tennis history.

>>153235015
This was probably the worst tournament in tennis history.
The semis were a total disgrace by the players who should have won.

>>153235023
would've been the worst if not for the semis

>>153235023
>>153235030
So I didn't miss anything, huh? Last year was great.

>>153234903
He was too weakmind today. Blew break point and had a retarded final service game. Disappointing, but 38 is 38. It happens.

>>153235071
mental was the least of his problems today

>>153235023
I wasn't able to see the Zverev semi live, but knowing he was up 5-3 in the fifth AND serving for the match makes me even more seething mad.

I don't care about the grand slams anymore. Meme tournaments. Clown brackets. Bring on Montpellier and Dallas. Get me out of this hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovUlanvlKpU
he looks more devastated than i expected

>>153235108
Vintage zverev. Impressive he can find new and innovative ways to choke big matches.

>>153234524
Sinner vs Zverev ao25 was worse
Sinner vs Fritz us24 was worse
Alcaraz vs Djokovic wim24 was arguably worse
Djokovic vs Medvedev us23 was worse
Djokovic vs Ruud fr23 was definitely worse
Djokovic vs Tsitsipas ao23 was arguably worse
Nadal vs Ruud fr22 was much worse
Djokovic vs Beretinni 21 was worse

>>153235115
Interesting that now he’s Greek he can’t win anything

>>153235089
In that regard; he didn't get frustrated as much.

>>153235023
>should have won
>Zverev
Lmao you're fucking nuts, that match was well on track for an easy straight sets win for Grug if not for the cramps. It's an absolute miracle he ever had any chance at all.

>>153235119
Fucking hell there’s been some dud finals with complete shitters

>>153235119
Last year's Wimbledon was crappy too

>>153235131
Many such cases

could it be better for sinner that he lost in the semis rather than losing another hard court final to alcaraz? this was bad as well because people will mock him for losing to a grandpa but wouldn't it hurt more to lose to your rival for the next 15 years (on his worst surface)

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Stan v Hamad finna be a banger

Looks like Djokovic is now Alcaraz's bitch.

You could just tell during that match Djokovic ran out of steam in the middle of the 3rd set. He has clearly hit unc status

>>153235201
>5-5 H2H
>0-3 Slam finals
>2-3 total finals
Paris is the only thing making it not completely grim for Novak

>>153235201
Grug 3-0 in major finals over 4 seasons at two different slams. Impressive.

>>153235251
if the olympics was bo5 he would have ran out of gas there as well

So mods are okay with the other thread being endless creepshots of 16-18 year old pseudo-amateur female players?

>>153235298
just post here then

>>153235108
He was 5-2 up in third set and somehow took it to tiebreak against an immobile alcaraz.

>>153235192
>Ugo is playing, but against Van de Snoozeslop
>Mpetshi out R1
>Fils is back
Grim. Hopes on Stan's shoulders. And maybe Mannameme-o will do something funny.

>>153235298
It's why we thread split. You can actually talk tennis here.

>>153235328
This was probably worse than the 5th set choke. You have to put away a player who literally cannot move instead of hitting it down the middle to them and edging them in a tiebreak. At least zverev was aware of that in his press conference. Yet another fucking retarded performance from him in a big match.

>>153235328
I think I'm even more pathetic for still wanting him to win

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feel like pure shite just want nole to win

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Dios mio

watch sinner win rg now that everyone is hyping grug and writing him off for being a step behind on his best court. he should have won last year already.

>>153235641
it's been over since 2023

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>>153235657
he used too much of his life force in his first 30 years of life

any deadspots this year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91u1yKqg4tk

>>153236098
>any deadspots this year?
>>153235657

>>153236199
kek

If Zverev would have served out his match, Novak would have 25 now.
Sinner will regroup, there are many different substances he can still add to his cocktail

>>153236313
in a way it was zverev's greatest victory over novax

>>153235724
I wouldn't mind.
Would prefer a non-Sinncaraz winner, but if one has to win, let it be Sinner

>>153235298
We're an Epstein board and the janitors his loyal pigs, check the news, Sergio.

>>153237143
I kneel

>>153237143
https://youtu.be/e69Kl-yxN88

I think this was Novak's last chance. He had basically 2 walkovers and still couldn't do it. Maybe if Sinner and Grug shit themselves at the same time

>Musetti out of Rio
It's ogre for the atp500 tournament

>>153237143

Really highlights how much of a post 2015 weak zoomer era merchant Nole is. His only competition was fatman Wawrinka, metal hip Murray and crippled Nadal.

>>153236098
>>153236199
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/joao-fonseca-raises-serious-concerns-125006147.html

Any new exciting changes in the ATP calendar?

>>153238322
Never mind, I just asked AI. It's fucking nothing

>>153234427
sinner wont be a goat

he will be wun of dem players you often see in wta where for a short period they look unbeatable level above everywun winning slams

but after a while he will dip and not be so good anymore

and diss shidd will be part of it, alcroth winnin i mean
dude garn be so mentally broken by alcroth he garn fade into obscurity

>>153234804
nice thought but

homegirl is made of glass

>>153234877
corr who the fuck is diss wenchoid

Poone’s poon (sister)

i actually hate zverev so mjch right now

gutless cunt

deprived the world of both a slam final and a slam title not connected to either alcroth or sinner

and like both djokovic having his 25th slam or even him winnin' a slam woulda been kinda nice

but no

gutless piece of shidd

shpuld do world favor and off himself

>>153239197
corr would dismantle her arse

How the fuck did Novak beat Sinner?

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There was a time people thought these two guy would win Slams

>>153234349
Shaming the unvaxxed? You're a disgrace to the flag. Deport yourself.

>>153237733
What exactly did he injure against the old man?

>>153240040
*How the fuck did Sinner lose to Novak? The answer: Sinner missed a shitton of forehands and never adjusted to anything

>>153240565
Tear of his inner labias

Nadal needs to quit this body positivity bullshit and book that istanbul trip asap holy shit that hairline is fucked

>>153240648
You got no clue, he lost already too much hair for enough crafts. He needs a hair system

>>153239208
In a healthy world, Zverev's generation should have been dominating uncs like this all the time, and preventing zoomers from even sniffing slam glory until ready. Slam 18 and onwards should not have happened, but shittypus and rat dropped the ball. I still kind of forgive Meddy because no-one in their right minds would expect someone with that playstyle to be a top player

>>153240587
This. Hit short, no pace on his shots and just gave Djokovic the same ball for 4 hours. He fell off after the first set hard, idk what was wrong with him but he wasn’t all there.

>>153240724
Truthpill

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goat and goat jr

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https://voca.ro/1mP8dF1Cvild

>>153241378
Based
Novaxx chuds got real uppity for a day or two there didn’t they

>>153235298
Fag

>>153239208
Idc much, Djokovic beating Sinner and Alcaraz back to back was a more exciting proposition... Walkovers AND then facing fucking ZVEREV as the final would have cheapened the win.

Which is better than losing, but at least there was the OPPORTUNITY to do something superhuman.

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congrats ziga!

>>153242401
Zesty

>>153242401
kek they makin everywun do that lame gay ass lay down wiv trophy

>>153234505
Novaxx is the indisputable GOAT right now but Alcatrash will probably break his slam record with how weak this era is

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>Korda losing to Svajda in a random challenger
He's a disgrace

>>153237934
Pretty much. If Novaxx and GOATerer were the same age there wouldn't be a debate

>>153243763
Why are you crying about this when Baldal was only 11 months older than Chadvax?

>>153243119
He's winning Wimbledon

>>153244614
Novaxx’s family faked his age to be older to get extra Marshall plan bux in the 90s (or rather they had a fake child, then when they started investigating they had to have a real one to take the place of the paper one). Chokobitch was faking injuries before he was even born.

Have you seen those pictures of him when he is “5”? He looks like a toddler. That’s why.

>>153242954
We all know the equation. It will be two people split between four slams every single year instead of three...

Alcaraz and Sinner should end their careers with around 30 slams each unless new talent emerged. They should get around 2 each per year for say 10 to 15 years.

just hafta pray alcroth does what mats wilander did and win 7 slams by 22 and never win anyfing agen

Why do people think Carlos is going to break Novaks record? Theres no way he can keep this level of play up in his 30s like Novak did. You're all going to look stupid when he flames out like all the other pretenders to Novaks throne

>>153245604
>>153245567

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Something fishy about this result

>>153245647
Just another Johannus Monday

Yes I am checking every challenger to see if Johannus Monday is playing

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Tf

>>153245647
No need to get mardy about it.

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Who the fuck is going to stop him?

>>153242401
>itf
Sir, this is /atp/

Finally watched the final highlights. Looked pretty kino. Did it really end on a 7-5 though? That shit needs to be banned.