SENSHURAKU>Banzuke:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspxhttps://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/>Fight Schedule & Results:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/>Some sumo links and how to watch live:https://rentry.org/uwbgc88dPrevious Thread: >>157116705
OP here, forgot to mention I suck a mean cock. God I love cock
first for Dan's bike
Who won?
I got caught up with work and am behind. I'm gonna try to catch up before the final day starts. I'm only on Day 10, any cryptic foreshadowing to be had?
>>157134955
What is the most yushos someone has gotten without ever reaching yokozuna?
>Fighting a rank down at 7-7>Go for a henka>KachikoshiLegit, but bitch made win.
>>157136221 Most number of yusho won by someone who never made Yok: Kaio, 5Most number of yusho won by someone at a rank lower than Yok: Takanohana, 7Most number of yusho won by someone who never made Ozeki: Kotonishiki, Tamawashi: 2Most number of yusho won below the rank of Ozeki: Mitakeumi, Terunofuji: 3
They will make dan fight twice.
Good 'ole 8-7 zak
FOR ALL THE MARBLES
ROUND AND ROUND WE GO
The white man is back.
Japan has fallen
#bangaijinsfromsumo
Kosakku Nanbawan I kneel...
So who won special prizes in the end? Takayasu, Atamifuji, Aonishiki, Kotoeiho, anyone else?
>>157138428Also elusive Fujinokawa.
>>157138458Not a bad spread. Sad my boy Shishi didn't manage a prize in the end, but Roga is an old jinx for him so I'm not surprised. Fun basho overall.
where to watch replays/a stream of senshuraku
The white man wins once again
Shishi bros .. we were doing so well
Sumo seems like one of them high T Asian activities, it reminds me of the Yakuza series. What's there to know about it?
>>157139062you need a lot of calorieshttps://youtu.be/FdDWWBfLZ9U
>>157139062It's steeped in tradition snd very fun. I suggest following thd thread next basho (starting second weekend of september) and learning as you go, plenty of anon will answer question. First live basho is very fun and you'll pick your favorites from there
I miss Tochinoshin
Ukraine is now yokozuna? I am new to sumo
>>157139244Not yet
>>157139244Aoi should have been promoted to Ozeki again which is one tier under Yokozuna.
>>157139244Yokozuna isn’t an automatic promotion, there’s a committee and things, it’s like becoming a saint but you’re the patron saint of being fat and slapping the shit out of people.He may become a Yokozuna in the future if he keeps winning and keeps being likable.
>>157139244No, this was sekiwake so won't count. He needs 2 Yusho or equivalent at ozeki, meaning he will have at least 4 yusho if he makes yokozuna.
It’s just looking goofy the longer they wait to promote the obvious best sumo wrestler in the sport to Yokozuna. Like I know they’re following an established protocol but the protocol is obviously flawed
>>157139184>>157139193Who is the Haaland of Sumo? Physically beast but has a heart of a child?
>>157139320There’s no shortage of wrestlers leaning heavily into the “gentle giant” thing, atamifuji, ura, takanosho, onosato are just a few that come to mind
>>157139320Atamifuji
So Ajigawa and Arashio confirmed best beyas
>>157139401he does bawl like a baby
>>157136241>Most number of yusho won by someone who never made Ozeki: Kotonishiki, Tamawashi: 2Wakatakakage, forgotten already
shishi needs better coachinghe has the physicality, but he has no technique and most of the fights he just stands in the middle of the arena and does nothinghe doesnt know what to do. instead of trying to push the opponent he should try unbalancing them
>>157139401The heaviest, roundest, jolliest wrestler in the roster. The Human Meatball himself.
aonishiki future 20+yusho winner and the rivalry with onosato should be great for sumoatamifuji finally figured his own self out and should be a strong ozeki>kirishitma
>>157134800congratz to aonishiki. had no favourites for this play-off. must be torture for kirishima, just scraping by the win for the 2nd time in a row.>>157143114yeah i was happy to see shishi being a beast on the dohyo again now that his shoulder has healed. he's definitely ozeki material if he refines his sumo a bit more.
>>157143114I agree. I have also thought this. As he fought higher ranked opponents his technical cluelessness was massively exposed.
JSA's going to address this bullshit?
Love this lady's hair, ngl.>8-7>outstanding performanceIt's for beating BOTH yokoz*nas, innit.
>>157143533Yes. Interestingly, Fujinokawa got the Technique Award the last time he accomplished that feat.>>157143206Asakayama confirmed that Kirishima's yokozuna run isn't over yet, so not all is lost. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202607260001561.html>>157139340>onosato>gentle
>>157143886>Kirishima's yokozuna run isn't over yetI am NOT getting my hopes up, but...4 yoks would be nice.
congratulations to aonishiki and the white man for bringing us many great things such as the cell phone, computers, the internet, toilet paper, and an exciting basho
>>157143381loose mawashi is a tacticit doesn't always come undone but guys that are wary of belt technicians will sometimes loosen it up so their opponent doesn't get a good grip
>lose on purpose to give us a playoff and win using his injured footSay thank you Dan-sama
>>1571439244 yokozuna is so rare that it's quite insane we've had this happen twice in the history of sumoeven more is that one of the 4 yokozuna periods coincided with hakuho's reign
>>157135128Usually horses are euthanasied if they have problems with legs...
How hosoveryu is it?
>Although he fell short in his quest for the top title, Kirishima received congratulations from Asakayama (the former Kaiō), who commended him on his 12 wins and added that the Judging Department would review his promotion to the rank of yokozuna—subject to certain conditions—if he managed to win the September tournament.[91]
>>157144472So he can end up just being endlessly teased Yokozuna promotion if he does well but never Yushos?
>>157144472Is there a big precedent for this? Are they desperate for a non-fraudulent Yoko? They already fucked it with Hosh and he had a 13-2
Fucking shishi missed on the fighting spirit prize tooFUCKING SHISHI
>>157139401reminds me of that Wide Putin Walking meme video
>>157144472>Although he fell short in his quest for the top title, Kirishima received congratulations from [a certain, former top-rank rikishi], who commended him on his [double-diigt] wins and added that the Judging Department would review his promotion to the rank of yokozuna—subject to certain conditions—if he managed to win the [upcoming] tournament.Here, for future use.
>>157144578That's what Kisenosato was before he finally won another one.
>>157144090>loose mawashi is a tacticLoose mawashi is bullshit, simple as.What's next, niggas start using baby oil?JSA should just set up a strict mawashi tightening protocol, with exact forces written down. Mawashi too loose? Default loss, fuck off.>>157144247Yeah.But there's no chance the current goofballs get retired any time soon, innit. If Kiri and Anon keep doing what they do...
Kirishima is in a weird spot. I don't think he should be made yokozuna, but he is still performing way better than the actual yokozunas, so, you can see why he would have an argument
>>157145236Making him a 'zuna would be like admitting they fucked up by promoting Hoshoryu and Onosato
What’s next for Dan?
Slava Ukraïni
>>157145757Avoiding a repeat of March where everyone prepared for him. In other words, dispelling any notion that he's just "le go low man".
>>157145761Shishi lost to Roga, tho.
fun tourney, hope the yokozuna can come back strong, I've been dying for a day 15 yokozuna match that matters. Would have posted more but because of my isp's ips, I constantly have to jump through 5 minutes of hoops to post and i just don't give enough of a fuck.
>>157145899Crazy to think it's been almost a year since the Onosato vs. Hoshoryu playoff when everyone thought we were finally going to have stable yokozuna presence.
>>157145864Roga is borderline Mongolian
>>157145836To be fair, I hope he continues to sidestepping like in first day and Vs Onosato
>>157144472I mean I guess in this era zensho or 1 loss probably covers his bases but that's a very tall task regardless
>>157145836his ankle was destroyed in March, which is why he ended up skipping the May tournament. They didn't "figure him out" or whatever people were claiming. Even with his foot still bothering him he managed to dominate this tournament. Going low is his brand of sumo and it clearly works. Everbody knows his brand. It is alot easier to say "dont let him go low" than it is to actually accomplish it.
>>157147322I think it was actually a broken toe that did him in.
>>157140076Only sekitori that wasn't part of Isegahama-beya, but part of Isegahama-ichimon. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202607260001987.html
>>157147974That doesn't explain why this random Juryo dude got to ride shotgun. Is there some kind of protocol that decides who gets to ride in the limo with the champion?
>>157148030It's conventional to pick a sekitori from the same heya/ichimon to be the flagbearer, but since Aonishiki was fighting an Isegahama wrestler for the championship, the only option remaining is Kyokukaiyu. Ajigawa most likely chose Kyokukaiyu to be the flagbearer in advance instead of letting Aonishiki decide for himself (he picked Wakamotoharu in his January championship).
Holy kino. Im thinking Brendan Fraser for the biopic
>>157150087Oops
Ken-sama won the basho
>>157139401wow what a cutie pie
>>157144701Also didn’t understand that. Don’t know if he can win more than once prize (technique + spirit) but he definitely shown both. More heart than many wrestlers.
>>157150087This but unironicaly
>>157153333Yes you can win several special prizes (sansho) in a single basho
Who's the youngest Sumo to become Yokozuna?I feel like Dan is Yokozuna worthy but he may be a tad too young for it just yet
>>157144211ARIGATOU DAN-SAMA
>>157154006We dont really call them "Sumo"Rikishi would be the preferred term, or Sumotori, or just wrestler.The ackshually out of the way, to your question it was Kitanoumi Toshimitsu; The "Hatefully Strong Yokozuna" (憎らしいほど強い横綱) who reached yokozuna at 21 years oldDude was so dominant that sumo fans made the joke that they support "their favorite wrestler and whoever is fighting against Kitanoumi"Dude was a menace, he wasn't a shitty yokozuna but he was DOMINANT as fuck, he set up a multitude of records that stood until fucking Hakuho. He also was really coarse in interviews so people legit hated that the face of sumo was an unlikeable cuntHe went on to become chairman of the JSA
I'm relatively new to Sumo. What do you guys do to scratch the itch between bashos? Are there any good documentaries about eras or specific wrestlers? I gotta imagine english-translated material is pretty sparse considering how niche sumo must be in the west.
>>157155182I just watch beya-slop and read sumo news.
>>157154006>I feel like Dan is Yokozuna worthyHold on. I like Anonishiki as well, but, so far, he BARELY showed to be ozeki-worthy (once demoted already, innit). Sure, his good performance allows him to instantly bounce back, but the disgrace remains. Let's see out this year of sumo and where he's at by December.
>>157155182I'm new to it too and also looking for more off-basho sumo content. Currently enjoying Chris Sumo and the Sumo Prime Time youtube channels though it's mostly short form content
>Overcoming that injury to fight the way he did was truly magnificent," Oshima remarked, noting that he felt Aonishiki's "unyielding determination and relentless resolve toward the way of sumo." Pointing to Aonishiki's grit as an example, Oshima urged the two Yokozuna to embody that same spirit and return to peak form.BE LIKE DAN
>>157155967Knee ligaments are for the weak. A true rikishi can hold his joints together through sheer determination alone.
>>157156036It's pretty funny that the Yoko's injuries are fucking horrible to play through for all sports (Hamstring/meniscus for horse and torn rotator cuff for onosato), but Dan comes in and plays through a low ankle and looks like the coolest dude alive. Dan always comes out on top.
>>157156069I'm still not convinced Onosato's performance (or lack thereof) was due to injury this time. I think he was still shaking off the rust from barely competing for half a year, and some of his bad habits had resurfaced in the interim.
just caught up, happy to see dan win, bit sad that our retard got assraped + atamifuji deserves to win the next basho
>>157155659My man he's at his third fuckin yusho at the age of 22, two of those being in succession. If anything it's the two scrubokozunas who are disgraced
damndidn't realize the ydc and jsa were just gonna bust sato down to sekiwakehe didn't do that bad
>>157158027Sharto looks good after getting that causcasiaplasty.
>>157157990What's the usual final makuuchi yusho count of say, Yokozunas?
>>1571581173 seems to be pretty typical in the post-Futahaguro era (including Hakuho). All the wrestlers who got promoted with two or fewer yuusho have done so with a 14-1 or better Y or JY, EXCEPT Horseshitryu.
>>157158260Man, a 14-1 sounds wild, I've been watching since last november and I don't think I've seen anyone get more than 12 wins in a basho not counting playoffs.
>>157158407Harumafuji got a double zensho (15-0) in his yokozuna bid.
12-3Y era
>>157155182The official JSA youtube channel has uploads of thousands of modern matches from the past few years available. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGbh7k1KcL3lhFq5rx4BK4XjuoSQMfo48They've also been steadily uploading archives of older tournaments. You have to pay for a membership if you want to watch entire basho, but they release the first day of each archived basho for free. The digitization of the old footage is great too. Even the matches from the black & white days are crisp.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGbh7k1KcL3kgzLvhiz4tBF1sQhFnYukI
>>157159590Looked almost like the gyoji was helping out at the end there.
>>157155967total horse humiliation >become yokozuna>the highest and supposedly most respected rank in the sport>YDC: "you should try and be less like you and more like this guy a couple ranks below you". just imagine the yokozuna deliberation council chair telling a yokozuna they should try and be more like a sekiwake, what does that say about the yokozuna?
>>157156604shartamifuji "deserves" to win when he proves himself capable of it by winning.
>>157155182>Are there any good documentaries about eras or specific wrestlers?NHK makes a lot of them.4 are currently available free to watch right now. The ones about Hakuho, Chiyonofuji, and Taiho should be good if you're new to sumo. Those 3 are almost unanimously considered the greatest yokozuna of all time, with Hakuho being first. There's maybe 1-2 other yokozuna who could make the case for taking 2nd or 3rd place over Chiyonofuji/Taiho.https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/sumo-legends/NHK also makes Dosukoi Sumo Salon. Mix of long form and short episodes.https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/dosukoi/
>>157162305Dan is the greatest yokozuna of all time
>>157155659>winning 3 yusho in less than a year, two of them back to back, is barely ozeki levelkek ok bro. he demoted due to an unfortunate injury, not lack of skill.
>>157142535I didn't forget. (I stole that comment from reddit)
>>157159982guy stepped outside
Im about to buy a new sumo game on steam.. start your own stable and build and manage your guys. Good reviews, hoping it's worth the $7
>>157163022proper slop
>>157163022MDickie should make a sumo game
>>157163037Yeah . It's hard to make a sumo game, and the management sim angle is the only way it can be done successfully imo. Was thinking about this last basho and was browsing steam for the first time this year a little bit ago and happened upon this game... I'll let you guys know if it's actually worth it.
Surprised there is no Kairosoft game already
Only about 20 mins in so far, but the creator obviously knows sumo and there's definitely some autistic dedication they put into their game. It's definitely something I personally will enjoy, but idk that it's worth $7 to the average person($7 is on sale too).. game is called uchi no heya though if anyone is interested. If you like sports sims/manager games, it'll hold your attention. Seems like it should be 2-3 bucks but i won't complain too badly about $7.
>>157163201Buy an ad.
>>157163236>Durrrr I sed duh thang!!!Talking about a sumo game is more on topic than half the posts itt.
>>157163022uchi no heya?if it didn't look like absolute no effort garbage graphicswise, i'd try itwell, i did try his free web versionnot reall enough game for me, i guess
Thank you for the webms anon; some cool shit on there
>>157157990Just give the man time, la.>>157162446And he picked up a new one just this tournament, innit.He goes 12-3 next basho and I start to believe.
Kinbozan 14-1 Yusho in September.
Uh oh. Chris Sumo saying Hakkaku overruled the committee in order to promote both of these failed 'zunas when they were inclined not to promote them (well Hosh at least). Politically he is weakened with every failed 'zuna basho that goes by.
>>157164743Hakkaku? More like Kakkaku. Also, does Oshima even hold any sort of power within NSK because he is a mongol?
>>157164074I've been playing for a few hours now and I agree. It's definitely fun, and the dude obviously has a love for sumo, but it's something you should only get on a 90% sale. The loop gets stale pretty quickly, and I'd say it's good for 8-10 hrs worth of play total. Do 1 run with your stable, MAYBE do a hardcore run after and then you never want to play it again. Maybe it'll be good nostalgia play once a year during a basho.
>>157164743Onosato had 4 yuusho before roping, and the one yuusho on his rope run was a 14-1.Horse only had 2, with a 13-2 JY/12-3 Y on his rope run. Bear in mind that Takaeisho got denied his rope on a 13-2 Y/12-3 JY as well as a 12-3 JY/12-3 Y.
>>157165020Thats how you know however you are responding to is an honest to god retard.Both yokozuna might be struggling right now so fucking casuals put them in the same basket on EVERYTHING trying to compare the circumstances in which they were promotedHoshoryu's promotion might have been controversial, sure, but he did what the JSA asked him to do, well they asked the same of Kotozakura and he faltered.HOWEVEROnosato's promotion is unappealable for fucks sakeThe meeting to confirm him lasted 6 minutes, Hakkaku didnt overrule anything, the voting was unanimous and obvious as fuck, we all knew (if we had been watching sumo for more than 5 minutes) that he was getting promoted.Im not even gonna check if chris sumo actually said what the other aborted anon claimed because it sounds too stupid even for the most casual of niggers out there.
>>157165103https://youtu.be/28d7AErUsoA
>>157165103>unappealableI think the word you're looking for is "unimpeachable".
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>>157165124im not watching that shit, can you time stamp when he says that hakkaku had to overrule onosato's promotion like>>157164743>Uh oh. Chris Sumo saying Hakkaku overruled the committee in order to promote both of these failed 'zunasThis faggot says?>>157165178I saw the red underline but i thought it was "understandable" enough and didnt think of finding the correct word. Ill try to keep unimpeachable on my vocabulary from now on.
>>157163022It's pretty clearly a vibe-coded game built with AI. Heights and weights skew almost exclusively to shortest manlet possible, hulking giant, and roughly average, when I imagine it's supposed to be something of a spectrum; it's a major hassle to even try to keep track of the best rikishi; and at least in the web version's case, there seems to be a memory leak or two that necessitates restarting the game every few hours, getting worse over time with each restart as the cache fills up.It's fun for an afternoon, but I'll echo the other anon - it's probably worth five bucks, if that, and I was satisfied enough with one free playthrough before losing interest
Don't take anything posted here seriously, especially by a british flag.I've given up on correcting wrong information in these threads and I have abandoned /xs/ entirely.It's not worth it, they aren't interested in a discussion.
>>157165276>im not watching that shitWhy are you arguing then
Chris Sumo said Hoshoryu will compete in Juryo next basho
Chris Sumo just flew over my house!
>>157165315Step into the dohyo with me, man to man.
>>157165530>juryokozuna
> Ikazuchido 1-6negressisters…
Kisenosato landed the best Japanese recruit again. 19 years old, 186cm, 163kg and just captained the national championship winning sumo team. Will be in mæzumo for Aki basho
>>157167946Can't wait to see another promising career derailed by easily treatable injuries and stablemaster incompetence.
>>157158027idk why AI still keep fucking up and confusing names
>>157169785because tomorrow someone could name their kid the exact same kanji as onosato, but pronounced with different hiragana. How would you know that it uses different hiragana? Because they said so
The shikona 大海 has had three separate readings. Without looking it up, you wouldn't know which rikishi I was referring to, so automatic translators have to guess based on what the most common readings are in the entire Japanese literary world.
>>157165567Chris Sumo-chads keep winning.
>>157170869>>157170958Nope. Onosato(大の里) and Aonishiki(安青錦) are completely different in both kanji and pronunciation. This is a new AI thing. It sees a name like Aonishiki and thinks like ''okay, this guy is a famous sumo guy currently so this guy is probably Onosato''. It can process a large amount of information and yet it keeps making a basic mistake like this.
>>157171975Oh, so you mean the Kanji can't be directly translated because it has multiple readings based on the feelings of the person that day, so AI just has to guess who it is? You mean exactly what I fucking said
>>157170985What really wondered me why they gave Asanoyama Terutsuyoshi who was m7, instead of m6 Enho or Ryuden. I still hold my conspiracy that Isegahama made this bout happen so Terutsuyoshi coull pull that kind of shit up on order so Terunofuji could win the yusho without play-offs required.
>>157171989Just because Kanji has multiple readings doesn't mean it's totally random at all. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>157171989You were obviously talking about the cases like Aonishiki(安青錦) gets translated to something like Ansei Nishiki, which still happens. What you said was totally right about that type of mistranslation.That and AI guessing a different person with a completely different name, which I was talking about, are two different things. The complexity of kanji itself has almost nothing to do with the latter one.
>>157171989No, it's nothing like what you said. It's like reading the name "Kirsten", wondering whether it's pronounced kerr-sten or keer-sten, and an AI telling you it's pronounced "amanda". Nothing about this could have possibly been a translation error of the constituent parts of either of their namesI understand you're being deliberately retarded on purpose (God I hope so) but the practice of explaining why what you said is retarded might accidentally help someone else learn something
