>>97171444 >What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97212059I love MFZ for the idea, but the implementation fucking sucks. You'd think building around Lego sets you would see some serious mech creation rules that reward you for going out of your way in designing some fun miniatures instead you get anemic rules right romp that is at best good for introduction into wargaming and then forgotten.
Not long until the Starcraft pre-orders go live! I can't wait for January.
>>97217388OMG, another WARHAMMER Killer!!!
>>97217388ngl that queen looks kinda fuckable
>>97217171>Napoleonic line warfare doesn't work >But medieval line warfare does, because... UhhhAnon do you realise Napoleonic troops and formations were MUCH faster, more mobile and less static than medieval or Renaissance ones, and unlike not!Medieval shit, Napoleonic armies had an actual chance of countering casters with their highly mobile and long range artillery. Lastly, Napoleonic tactics worked against 'magic-like' effrcts like shot at with grapeshot, artillery, Mortars, etc., where as medieval warfare isn't. Yet all fantasy warfare is depicted as medieval warfare? Your argument is very poorly thought out
When did Warhammer go from being a game about making themed armies in cool campaigns into being a sweatlord tournament game where people whine about balance and how your models must be Games Workshop approved with the right weapons and no kitbashing? What even happened to campaign play?
>>97207948The Meta min-max is what makes the game unfun. But people like tomwin and make everything in to a competition thats like work.
>>97207948This shit is also more fun in single player vidya than tabletop.
>>97217103I'm going to advocate for skill expression, I used to go undefeated with a fucking charmer deck during very toxic formats in Yu-Gi-Oh by virtue of how much fucking gas I could shit on the field and summon/interrupt between a synchro engine 4* spellcaster support and kaijus to enter rank4/8 plays.I was not meta or engaging with it but dear lord I still remember someone complaining I had 2 negates 2 boardwipes and 2 targeted interruptions with a discard from his hand in his turn protection and another negate coming while I still kept 4 cards on hand before my turn ended, only then I understood that I cooked cancer with a joke archetype.Sometimes you don't need to follow meta to break a format, just doing redundancy and playing as intended works.For the record before blood angels were buffed, before transport and movement rules were changed and reavers were buffed I was already playing list with them to absolutely fuck with people in their deployment and leave hem without a single scoring unit or HQ turn 1. Meta is far more than just copying lists or following a similar style of play, finding a way to prevent the other players from fucking playing before they even get to deploy or end up in a disadvantage because they can deploy/redeploy properly is a different kind of meta that often goes ignored until it explodes in you face several times in a tournament.
>>97195868It didn't really change. The metachasers are just a loud minority on the internet. The majority of the people do the hobby like they want, at home with friends. Nobody cares for the torunaments and the meta that much. The "pro"-gamers just want too believe they are the majority. Don't listen to them. Fuck them!
>>97212115Outside of Judge Dredd, I'm not sure any of 2000AD strips have anything Capeshit about them
Why are the Blood Angels the only ones that are lore accurate?
>>97217396>um actually I wrote in a reason for them to be there so it's lore accurate, checkmate ChudSomehow they think this will work on people who oppose it either way
>>97204961Aren't these faces based on the faces in-game already, just dressed up as different chapters? the black space wolf looks like the grappling hook guy, just with a less mangled face and an eyepatch (which is stupid)
>>97217594Whoa whoa whoa you can't just say that all black people look the same
>>97217396it's a miscalculation because they're including the faces as self-inserts for people who want to play the most stereotypical version of the chapter possiblefewer people would care if the game featured multiple space wolves and it featured non-Fenrisians recruited as primaris marinesI don't know if the question was ever addressed as to whether Fenris actually has enough climatic or genetic diversity to have races corresponding to the original races of Earth. Knowing modern culture diktats, the answer is obviously "YES, everywhere is as diverse as the modern UK", but being completely fair and asking the question of writers in the 90s looking at this from a sci-fi perspective, what would they have said?Bear in mind, there's tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of years of isolation that went into making the IRL races different, whereas 40k only has planets populated ~20,000 years at most (pre-imperium). Some planets could have had time-warp shenanigans during the pre-imperial dark age, but even then, divergence would be less likely to happen internal to the planets, but rather the planet's population would become distinct from the baseline human norm, especially if the planet had the culture and technology to allow intercontinental travel, as most would have.We know more or less that Fenris:>has no climate equivalent to Africa; the warmest regions are probably comparable to Canada (no idea about sunlight/UV protection)>has a small, low-turnover population for an Imperial planet, but a high population for its tech level>inter-continental travel exists because sailing is a huge part of their culture, even before the imperium>the planet might have started as a viking-werewolf theme park with genetic engineering (its inhabitants might be skewed towards viking-like workers, but presumably people from all over the human colonies visited and settled/were trapped during the DAOT)
>>97217714>(if not hundreds of thousands)No, modern humans were bottlenecked far more recently than that.
This is a second OSRG, seperate from the main osrg thread, where you CAN talk about 2e, retroclones, and any osr content you want.This is different than the regular osrg as due to rampant trolling from a handful of bad actors, discussion is impossible.
>>972142973.0 had tons of content made for it because it was popular, not because thr system was special.
>>97207615Why would anyone design a set of rooms like that.If he just wanted to kill adventurers, he could have made one of the doors impossible to open and not a dumb puzzle.The adventurers would keep trying every possible way to open the door and just end up dead.
>>97216067>Why are you here?Because this thread is called an /osrg/ and that's not acceptable. Call it something else and you'll be rid of me. Resurrect /todd/ if you like.
Boo fucking hooFuck off back to your containment threadWe will talk about games here in OSRG>>97217455Because acererak is a gloating idiot.
>>97213852>Those are official rules, not optionalAll rules are optional, nogames.
How do you justify a "pest race" like goblins or rat people in your setting? Why wouldn't the dominant species make a concentrated effort to eradicate them if they were a problem?
>>97215103The idea of a gnoll working in forge with that fur next to burning fires, sounds like a safety hazard about to happen Also while we at it, would gnolls be classed as a 'pest race'?, they tend to grow in numbers rapidly, pillage some towns, get genocide and repeat
>>97217789No. This thread is a thinly veiled goblin goon thread. So discussing anything's ng other than big tittied green short stacks is off topic.
>>97217804>So discussing anything's ng other than big tittied green short stacks is off topic.Where do you think you are?
>>97217034Most intersex people are cisgender.The doctor pulls out the baby, says "yep it's a girl" and decades later that person, now a grown woman, discovers she has some freaky chromosomes or internal organs.Hermaphrodites and futanari remain a fantasy.
>>97217421Generic what?
I hate the new captcha edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97217160It's simple. They wanted to make another joke set. He's always said that pitching them to his boss is hard but because "what reason do we give players to buy joke cards that can't be used anywhere". In the past, the answer was full art lands. But now full art lands are in every single set and they're no longer unique or special. So how do you get people to buy the joke cards? Make them black-bordered and thus Commander/Tournament legal. But of course, they did this in the most awful way possible. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>97217487No. I did my part and quit playing three years ago.
>>97215292Edh crybaby. Boros commander decks would fuck but the stupid social convention has demonized mass land destruction, tax, and aggression in the early game.
>>97217487No, I stopped buting this shit in 2018 and came back to find out I was apparently the only person that didn't like retarded one sided power creep of the gayest variety.
>>97217767>mass land destructionI want this
Work in Progress, Pink Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97216323>Im working on a digital kitbashhow this is so cooli really need to invest some time into it and learn how this shit worksFUCK
>>97217244Not sure what that anon's workflow is, but you can start right now. There's a bit of a learning curve, but to just kitbash stuff in Blender is pretty easy. Get Blender, learn basic UI, get the files (you can work directly with .stl files), and just do stuff. If you are just printing minis, you don't need to give a fuck about geometry. If you want to just do basic stuff, you can probably do with just a slicer software for the printer. If you want to do complex stuff, you might look into sculpting. Blender sculpting tools are okay and mostly enough, but if you enjoy it, I would recommend pirating ZBrush somewhere. t. 3Dfag
>>97215892Weekend progress >>97216184Good guess, it's Golden HFA diarylide yellow over a light grey primer
>>97217332Damn. That's some nice coating anon. Airbrushed?
>>97217244>HowIt's called soulless cheating. I guess you could learn it if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it.
>'member when Primarchs were CLONES of Thy Emperor and not his sons with Erda ("Goddess-Empress" meme-turn-canon)>'member when Erda didn't exist and didn't ruin the Imperium by ejecting her sons to the Warp just to piss off Thy Emperor>'member when 40k was actually absurdist Grimdark and not mature, deep, serious Hopepunk>'member when the Imperium was actually xenophobic and not species-mixer with Eldars and Tau>'member when Salamanders were "reverse albinos" (Caucasians with actual black skin) instead of space wakandans>'member when Space Wolves, Ultramarines and Cadians were 100% whites>'member when Custodes were 100% males>'member when Mortarion despised being Nurgle's slave>'member when Magnus despised being Tzeentch's slave >'member when Necrons were space egyptian terminators and not space B1 droids with spooky body>'member when Thy Emperor was a tragic idealist man and not "CEO of galactic daddy issues">'member when SM armors were actually cool and had beaks and not the current clusterfuck of iconography and stamps Membermarine 'members. And you?
>>97217692I'm a different anon but I also remember the Emperor being a corpse that the Imperium had to keep secret lest panic spreads
>>97217250>'member when Salamanders were "reverse albinos" (Caucasians with actual black skin) instead of space wakandansthis is still true retard
>>97217250>Membermarine 'members. And you?I don't, because I'm not into dogshit settings.
>>97217250Kek, nuhammer chud absolutely seething
>>97217250Half of these are the result of the fans themselves taking the setting way too seriously.
>author adapts his D&D campaign into a well-written, highly-entertaining animated seriesWhy has nobody done this since?
>>97216711Basically I am saying, shows like Critical Role are to D&D as WWE is to wrestling. (They get actors to pretend to be "play D&D" on stream.)
>>97217573I can see where WMH elves took inspiration from.
>>97217624Dunbine is technically the first popular Japanese Isekai, so it has been ripped off countless times.
>>97217694Cursory look suggests it's just anime, no manga, no LN, right? I'll throw it into the watchlist then.
>>97217776There's manga, just hard to get your hands on it. The anime that started in the 80's is what everyone knows.
>be me>just finished playing in a 1 year campaign>dm tells us he's tired of dming>offer myself >ex-dm looks happy to be a player>im kinda new to dming>bought all the books and a dm screen>starts the first session>made the players use point buy>ex-dm says that is kinda powergaming and kinda boring>ok>unpack my things>put up my dm screen on the table>ex-dm asks me why i am using a screen ( he doesn't)>tells me that's using it kinda seperates the dm and the players. dm are supposed to be a player too technicallyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97211316It's a piece of cardboard that many companies are selling to idiots to bolster their income fro mtheir games. Of coruse sold separately. Early DnD was all about useless merch, and this one can be made for any game of choice.Most games rightfully dropped it, but the ones geared for fleecing their own consumers (won't even call them customers) will be selling it.>>97211999What a tragic waste of good tripsAlso: if you need a secret roll, roll the dice in a cup and don't lift the cup until you need that outcome. If you don't understand why it's the best possible way of handling it, you might be retarded.Everything else is in your own notes (reminder to never write more than a single A4 page, no matter fucking what)>b-but rulesNot a single GM screen contains useful informations, especially when it comes to rules. It always lists basic shit that you will know after reading the book and not having room temperature IQ.
>>97211837Nta but the other anon already said that: virtually NOBODY prints those anymore for quite a while. You are either left with games that pull "muh tradition" (of selling useless merch), games who's creators are dumb enough to think this is an actual tradition and a handful of games that try to squeeze maximum buck out of a one-time buyer (so they are part of a "starter" kit that costs extra and consists of useless shit that looks catchy for a newfag).I'm in this hobby since the tail end of the 90s. I saw "industrial grade" screens grand total of thrice, all three on official promo events. I saw people use screens of any sort only a couple of times, and each and every time it was the same story: someone had no clue how to handle a secret roll, so they did the dumbest thing possible and rolled behind a cover, then stated the outcome.
>>97214597>All that shitThat's just your opinion, man.Some people like having resources for a session. Some people like keeping shit hidden. It's all a matter of personal opinion and preferences.A good GM screen should have a bunch of tables for on the fly ass pulls.
>>97214648Why would you need to buy a printed one to know what it is? The idea comes up often enough in almost any discussion about tabletop RPGs that even non-players will learn what they are quickly enough, and a decent proportion of pdf downloads (legal or not) come with them.
>>97211997>>97214648Yet again, the question was "what is that?" and the reply why "have you ever engaged with the hobby" because screens are not new and not unheard of. We're not talking about who uses them or how not every game has one. Just the fact that they are a common enough thing to know of if you're actually in the hobby. I've run games for a couple decades now and don't use one, but I know what they are and why they exist.
Wolves of the Space editionPrevious Thread:>>96781974Check out here for useful links and a catalogue of relevant miniatures retailers:https://pastebin.com/nnNqqFLnThe Rogue Trader magazine article compilation:https://gofile.io/d/yNK9bq
>>97217629>soulless>>>/v/
>>97217701He's right, fuck off.
>>97217766I'm not even the guy that posted that. I'm just tired of /v/ buzzwords and people shitting their pants with rage at the merest suggestion AI can be useful for anything.
>>97217777He's still right and you should still fuck off.
>>97217784No he isn't and I'm not going to.
Have anyone here played this? How does it compare to the older 40k RPGs like Dark Heresy and it's derivatives? How does it compare to WFRP?
Did you ask the 40kRPG general?
Does your character treat figures of authority with deference or are they a cheeky bugger?
>>97216471You get lies, damn lies, and statistics. Shills will argue "sampling" and in the same breath say "You can't tar a whole group because of a few bad apples".
>>97183368He is indifferent towards most authority and as long as they don't get in his way he will tolerate them. However he isn't above killing them if they try to fuck him over and all.
>>97216656Your character sounds insufferable. Wouldn't be allowed in my game
>>97217680Well, wouldn't want to be in your so called game. I like actually playing rather than just acting like I play.
>>97189073My noble Elf adventurer would call him a nigger and his elf wife a snow bunny to his face. I'm a High Elf Prince from the Eastern Forest.
Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency.If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help:>n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128>Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97217234Shouldn't have to "fix" anything. I want OSRIC to be an AD&D retroclone, not interested in Matt's House Rules or having to go through the rulebook looking for what I need to undo to actually play AD&D. Those changes are a deal breaker for me.
>>97217287Can't happen. Lawyer shit.
>>97217349>Can't happen. Lawyer shit.Nah, that's bullshit. OSE-Classic didn't have to make any changes at all.And the changes Finch has made to the Monk are to "fix" it because he thinks it's too powerful and difficult to qualify for, he's said as much in interviews and even in the OSRIC 3 rulebook. He didn't have to change the Paladin, Ranger, Druid, or Assassin, so there's no legal reason why he would have had to change the Monk.
>>97216978>This is a bit specific (not in a bad way)Yeah, to clarify, I meant this to be advice for the exact next step Anon could take toward remedying his problem, not a general or complete solution in any way.
>>97217375>Finch thinks the Monk is too powerfulThis may be the single strongest blow to his old-school credentials and general judgment I've ever read.
What's the best version of BRP?I hear that it has pretty quick and lethal combat, and is very much for more grounded games, which is the kind of games I prefer to run. I also really enjoyed the fanmade Fallout PnP system that used percentile dice, and the combat in that.However I am also aware that apparently Chaosium released newer versions that apparently were bad.Which one is good?
I don't think the new editions are bad. They do have more options and try to cover more universal ground, which may or may not be just useless bloat to you, especially considering that is all in the default character sheets. Since you like lethal and grounded combat, you could also look into Mythras as an even more lethal and combat focused D100 game alternative.
