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>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.

The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,
Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.

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>>97789298
>be game
>be so good you have a dedicated community
>your owner ceases supporting you
>community takes your rules and keeps them going, providing support and updates completely off if their own back
>community's makes new supplements
>new fleets
>new ships
>some time later an anally aggravated zoomer shrilly claims this means your a bad game because "hurr durr no official support"
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>>97817808
Zoomer are so strange, they hate corpos, but demand corpo only updates and support.
Hate new slop, but refuse to engage in anything that isn't new.
They are truly the most retarded generation and boomer exist. Both generation suck at technology and love sucking authoritarians cocks as long is their flavor of cock.
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>>97813771
>>97817186

I don't want my dollars to be spent on genital mutilation.
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>>97817873
I got bad news for you anon. If your country is in the UN, your tax money will end helping some form of genital mutilation.
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>>97764225
>TQ
Xwing
If only they had started with the 2nd ed. model but without the Sephardic card thing and it wasn't given to fucks who tanked it on purpose

A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.

Spectres minis edition

>Adepticon roadmaps:
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion
>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1ze

Star Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)
>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaA

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>>97816226
Too many upgrades desu
I'm pretty sure you could squeeze in more shore squads if you dropped:
>LTAs from mortars
>Mission objective from the strike squads
>scopes from the shores
>Duck and cover, environmental gear and emergency transponders from scouts
>recon intel from deaths
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>>97816267
The only other empire player that runs a lot of tanks loans them off me so I'll try and stay safe their.

>>97816349
I mainly added upgrades because i couldn't add anything else, but i'll try and see if i can cut enough to fit in another mortar team.
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>>97816358
If you drop what he proposed you have 32 points. . .
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>>97813482
Except it isn't a private makret variant. It's a canon clone variant. Because Filoni's design team sucks balls.
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You have a terminal illness, which SW character do you want to inform you?

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Trying Too Hard Edition

>Previous
>>97788480
>Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0
>Mediafire
https://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD
>Mega I
https://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw
>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)
https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ
>5e Mega
https://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA
>STV content folders

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>>97816957
Thats why you just highlight text and control + s now youre censoring like a real NWO pencil pusher. Though nta i find it really funny how the Sabbat like constantly jerk off themselves for being the destroyers of the Antedilluvians they pretty much exclusively just make noise and do nothing rather than hunting down the actual threats to the world like the Camarilla Inner Circle, the Antedilluvians, or even Methuselahs who are all insane threats to their world view and life style instead just feeding like parasites on a carcass and attacking weak cammie cities or wartorn regions/3rd world nations
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If the VtM to VtR2e conversion anon is around

I couldn't find any mention of vampire fangs dealing lethal damage to other vampires in the text. Considering they are lethal in Requiem and Aggravated in V20, I'd imagine they stay lethal in the coversion, but without mention one could imagine this means they do bashing, as per the "only if it says lethal to vampires" rule

Meanwhile, level 2 Protean Claws say they do lethal, while level 4 specifies Lethal to vampires, so I imagine it's intentional that level 2 only does bashing to vampires.
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>>97817011
The Protean thing is intentional and a direct port from Requiem, 2 dots say the claws are "mundane" weapons, whereas 4 dot claws are specified to still deal lethal to vampires.

Will add an "even to vampires" to the section on bites.
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>>97816823
Never, the union will make sure of that. and that's a good thing. Ivory Tower and Media Control are working overtime to sanitize this mess. Everyone was involved, even the Mad Convention. Why do you think Stephen Hawking was there?.
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>>97817518
Whatever this is, it beats getting asked trivia[/spoiler] for the 1st in the captcha. Anyway shame it's slow around here on holidays. The whole idea about the technocracy getting involved with epstein island? Nu-Wolf would never do that but honestly it's quite a fun bit for a campaign

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With how much the board is overly critical of D&D, I figured it would be interesting to find out what system /tg/ likes running?
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>>97815839
>>97817644
Lastly I wish there was more incentive to actually make specific spells, like picking a set of action+modifier and giving it a flavor. signature spell isnt nearly enough. I do think spontaneous casting is fun too but I think itd be nice to have more concrete spells for characters, and yes I've seen systems that make you pay xp for spells and I hate them. It was one of my big issues with the force trees in star wars. Sure you certainly were getting an equivalent result for XP spent to the rest of the party but it felt like if you focused them that you were ignoring your skills and talents which reasonably should still be advancing as well.
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>>97815348
If you have to exclude the wealth of resources for D&D to prop up other games, then they're just not as easy to get into as D&D. Simple.
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>>97815114
You conceded awfully quick, did you realize you had no ground to stand on with your overgeneralizing statements?
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>>97814470
That's a lie, but go off man. You guys have an unexplainable vendetta against a game that you don't understand, despite it being so easy to get into.
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>>97817857
>Literally cannot describe their argument in any amount of detail
>i AcCePt YoUr CoNcEsSiOn

You NPCs are all the fuckin' same.

How hard is it to create an interesting campaign without backstory? After reading the classic Sword and sorcery stories, I wanted to do something that didn't rely on backstory and was completely focused on the present. But how do you make it interesting?
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>>97817618
I like games that gloss over or ignore past events, because I like to get to the gameplay as soon as possible and play the game for the time agreed.
But, if the game itself sucks, I won't be interested no matter what. I need gameplay that engages me; plenty of character options to choose from, plenty of ways to synergize with my own character's kit and those of the other party members. Plenty of varied enemy types and behaviors to encourage different combat tactics.
If it's something like D&D or PbtA, where I need permission instead of being able to choose, I won't like it.
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>>97817673
>>97817677
Yeah, but I have a feeling that someone will definitely complain that the story is too flat and boring.
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>>97817618
in medias res is a thing you know

>>97817742
>Your commander is dead, the only way your division can get supplies is through a guarded pass
>The commander is ruthless but honorable
>go

Unless you consider something as barebones and scene setting as this backstory, IDK how that is flat and boring. You dont need some long monologue, just where you are, what your immediate goal is, and the major characters in play.
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>>97817742
Don't make the story too flat and boring. Alternatively, know your group and run the kind of game you have in mind for people who'd be interested in it. I don't know what kind of an answer beyond "have interesting shit in it" are you looking for here. That's all there is to it. If you can't think of interesting shit that doesn't depend of backstory established beforehand, you probably shouldn't run a game without backstory. If you can think of interesting shit, why do you think your players would find it boring?
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>>97817618
Make interesting places for the players to explore. Make interesting characters for the players to interact with and talk to. Make interesting monsters/combat encounters to fight. Give the players room to fill out their own characters. Leave gaps and let the players fill them. the story will emerge on it's own.

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Any suggestions for systems built for urban fantasy settings? I know there's World of Darkness but I'm looking for something that is more combat focused and less story telling. Monster of the Week has been suggested to me but I'm just not a big fan of PBTA, the systems just don't feel like a game to me as bullshit as that sounds.
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Hate to say it, but pic related is probably your best bet if you want something that is combat focused. It's just a shame that it's by Tom Lancer.
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>>97815373
MotW is alright if you want to run something looser, but combat is rule of cool and lots of handwaving. You could do an alright Hellboy-style campaign with it, but you only get back what you put into a pbta system, meaning if you aren't feeling it, you won't have a good time.

Unknown Armies is more about fucked up magic and Delta Green is more about being off-the-books agents killing Lovecraft monsters.

It's actually pretty hard to find some urban fantasy games that aren't also pbta though. You might have to grab a generic system like Basic Roleplay (same system used by CoC and Delta Green) and fashion something to your liking.

>>97816551
It's not good at any of the things that OP requested, though.
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>>97815373
Call of Cthulhu using the Pulp expansion could work. Characters are much more competent and survivable, and able to do more fantastic things, and there are rules for playing psychics or mystics.
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>>97816551
>Tom Lancer
Is that a short of Tom Bloom, the woke cancer and author of Lancer?
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>>97815373
What about Fate and Jojo? They both have their RPGs

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A thread for everything Dragons.
What is the best kind of Dragons for a game. Just the standard, firebreathing scally Dragon? Or is it better for a game to give your players variety?
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>>97809581
>Warhammer has a wide variety of dragons.
BEHOLD, THE VOID DRAGON!
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>>97809146
thousand sons has wyverns in lore
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>>97815414
Because it is the common thing. And thats just a common cultural exchange. Happend within Europe too. So did China with Korea and Japan.
But Yamata no Orochi is an interesting dragon. Thanks for that info.
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>>97705547
I found the writing to be lackluster. It reads like a Disney Channel original series with simpleton characters and villains too comically villainous to be taken very seriously. I like dragons, but I wasn't willing to go past the first book. Things may improve after that, but I don't feel like I'm missing out.
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>>97812205
>>97812672
>>97813749
Other dragons are a given. I was thinking more in terms of empires, civilizations. Masses of creatures that can exist as long as dragons and rival them in power in their own way, not necessarily being significantly supernatural.
Guess I'm trying to write a huge adult dragon as I would an adventurer: what kind of rivals, challenges and quests can he face without it being a straightforward high power magical creature or heroic character. As well as not escalating into all out war with armies.
Like giants are pretty good for that. Fae or high power magical creatures seem too wild, momentary challenges.
Sentient gryphons or harpy civs perhaps?

Out of Season Snow Storm Edition

Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.
>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits

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>>97817747
Apparently, you can't spell Ascent without A Scent.
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>>97817522
You could have different piles for rarity and each time you open a container you draw from tbe general pile. High value loot can get vacuumed up if you let it.
You could even do loot boosters, where you open it with a friend and shuffle it in to the loot piles without knowing what's in it
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should I buy a box of warlord
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>>97817476
It's a shame because the game was fun it just wasn't supported properly, and it launched like within a month of One Piece.

Also the card frames looked like shit what were they thinking
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>>97817764
Its funny how no matter what TCG
The players fucking smell

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Knight Panther edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:

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>>97817399
holy fvckin kino
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>>97817383
>Bonereaper
That's a nicely painted one, but ngl the bonereaper aesthetic has to be one of the worst things GW has come up with. It feels like lazy cad drafting to make skeleton models less spindly & easier to cast, but on top of that it flies in the face of what made skellymans cool which was reusing the bones of what were clearly once monsters & humans- when they're morphed & warped into specific shapes that clearly were never a part of an actual skeletal structure they might as well be made of metal at that point.
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>>97817399
>Luthor von Drakenborg, fed up and tired of completely dominating Blood Bowl, chooses to wage war with his ancestral blade

Well, the Old World is fucked.
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Bros I love Warhammer Fantasy so much
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>>97817850
A single Cathayan peasant would solo everything in this art btw

What's the appeal of evil women?
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>>97817593
oops, dropped the dork
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>>97816784


Maybe.
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>>97817603
>tfw you will never be her Duck
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>>97817630
Do you think she sometimes absent mindedly rubs against Transmogrants she's working on?
Because that's someone you can be for her...
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>>97815288
Oh that explains the room temperature takes I end expose to.
Fucking algorithm insist on showing me this thing even though I keep blocking its content.

How the fuck are the Lord of the Rings wargame minis still getting made? Those movies were 20 years ago.
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>>97805226
The movies were that good (still not as good as the books) and the game was great for 20 years, and is till pretty good.
>>97810744
One day I'll sit down and make an effortpost about how 90% of the complaints about 40k and AOS stem from the fact that neither are true wargames but not today. I do wish this was talked about more.
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>>97811706
That game has some of the best LOTR art. And some of the worst, particularly in the later sets.
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>>97805321
stopped watching them after the vtuber shit. Vince Venturella is on thin fucking ice for having that one annoying fuck in his thumbnail
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>>97811922
>(still not as good as the books)
After having heard that Tolkien wrote the hobby as a sort of bedime story for his son, I got the audiobooks and had a great time painting fantasy stuff with them for background. LOTR really was made to be told, not just read.
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>>97805321
You can't be that hard on them if you remember that they started playing the game in like 2017 (after it was ruined). They never got to experience GOOD 40k.
>>97809693
>They're MTG fans who pivoted for views.
That makes SO much fucking sense. Their severe "old bad new good" skew with everything from sculpts to balance changes / wanting even faster rules update churn than the absurd speed we currently have speaks to a MTG mindset of "fix the current fucked meta with the new set!" of every CCG out there.

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Thread #012 Degenerate Edition

Welcome to /schreck/ where you can rp your VTM character! For all questions concerning the World of Darkness, please consult the WoDg and CoDg thread
>>97733980

Previous Thread
>>97621954

Brief rules
>We have no story teller, we are acephali
>Threads are v20 based, although the night is long and full of whispers, lies, and half-truths. Decide your own canon but all will not believe you
>all nicktuku will be diablerized on sight
>all OOC discussion should be spoilered

THREAD QUESTION

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>>97809672
Need to find him a teacher at some point.

>>97814457
Give people an escape and they'll often surprise you.

>>97814951
>You do realize if we ever meet in person I obligated to smack you one for blaspheming the Dark Father, right?
Everyone gets one for free, it is your due.

But at this point between the Tzim Dharma I've internalized and the gods I've seen? The only thing the Dark Father ever did worthy of my respect was leave.
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How do I POLITELY invite a Nosferatu to leave the sewer underneath my place without angering them, using another Nosferatu, or making an enemy out of the rest of their Clan?
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>>97817128
Like you were using that sewer
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>>97817237
Most of the kine walking through my place won't either, however somebody is going to reach for the surface to feed and eavesdrop at some point in time.
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>>97817128
fetching? probably not but i am comfy in them. that is all that matters.
and ey, we do what we gotta do.

>>97817391
>>97817128
if this is a 'reasonable' extension of a haven you gotta demarcate that shit and KEEP it. paper law don't extend far down
otherwise, just ask without being weird. if it matters to your neighbours they'll ask for a favour. give it. its a lot easier to work with mutuals than bad neighbours

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Kill yourself already, nothing of value will be lost.
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>puckee thread

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Simple rule to improve and balance wizards in OSR games: they can only memorize one casting of a given spell per day. You have 3 third level slots? You can cast one Fireball, not 2 or 3. Don't know any other 3rd level spells? Better go find some spellbooks. Hope you make your % chance to learn spell rolls (I won't bother addressing faggots who let wizards automatically learn new spells). God forbid you have to get more creative with your casting.
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>>97815029
>You forgot they also had one of slowest XP/Level progressions.
Very good point, added to the list.
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>>97816374
>no reason why the rod of disintegration isn't in the first dungeon.
Because someone would already have it if it was
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>>97815205
They are dumb. There are other ways to balance casters that don't involve half the party being underleveled or having to use shitty XP-based progression like it's an MMO where the players can fuck off to kill 1 XP rabbits for 60 sessions to level up.
>Skill Points are dumb
They aren't dumb, but they could have been handled better I think to prevent modifiers from getting out of hand so quickly. That said, I fixed this easily with my overhauls of 5.5's classes, Rogues get 6 proficiencies, Fighters get 5, other full martials get 4, half-casters get 3, full casters get 2, and you pick any skills you like from the list. Bards also uniquely get 3 given their weird support caster-rogue shit (but they lose access to Jack of All Trades. That is instead given to Rogue at level 1).
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>>97816374
Verisimilitude isn't realism, it's internal consistency.
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>>97801330
And that's why 5e players like yourself should be banned.

>mimimi, humans don't have their own feature, mimimi, we have to invent something
Necromancy right here. When was the last time you saw non-human necromancer, lich or vampire? That's right, they practically don't exist because other races are simply inferior when it comes to necromancy and those non-human undead are so pathetic that everyone forgets about their existence in 5 minutes . Except for that one orc, but even he understood that he was worthless and therefore got himself a human body to finally become a full-fledged lich. So yes, here is your feature humans - necromancy, you know that I am right, you can't run away from the truth forever.
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>>97817535
>The Exception (Bretons): Bretons are the primary exception, being the result of centuries of interbreeding between Aldmer (elves) and Nedic humans, though they are considered more human than elven today.
Ok tourist.
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>>97817553
>your slop should count
It didn't.
>not mine
Only if you accept mine.
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>>97816567
Have you tried not being a bigger retarded nogames than OP? Non human undead always existed in D&D
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I've sometimes wondered if the general absence of non-human fantasy skeletons or zombie models is an indication of a potential gap in the market or that they just don't sell.
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>>97816932
Dude that pic is from a game called minion masters I remember saving that ages ago, its not the usual suspect.
or at least not one of his coms


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