Penis EditionPreviously: >>92533086>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>TQ/prompt:What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?
Gay Bolas
>>92547134>TqHe just does it all.>Cost reduction >Card draw>Big creatures >Haste ( my favorite keyword)>A disincentive to kill him
Rowan guy from last thread, what should I build as my first commander? Preferably on the cheaper side of mana cost and Mardu or Rakdos
>>92547134>tqBobby Hill lookin’ motherfuckerI like throwing out all of my big Eldrazi along with Progenitor Mimicking my Nyxbloom Ancient to shit out even more big EldraziI know I’m cancer, just let me attempt to go crazy though
>>9254713445 lands, 45 ramp spells, and some exile removal. My Zacama deck is EXTREMELY linear, but I love it anyway. I typically use it as a benchmark for testing my friends' decks, but it makes a fun ice breaker when I'm playing with people for the first time.
you can't "respond" to until end of turn effects at the cleanup when they are ending, right? like trying to phase out a creature to keep buffs
>>92547180Huh, so this is the legendary "simic faggot" I've heard so much about.
>>92547134>What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?I like drawing cards and so does everyone else. Most people leave me be and I can just win over time without attacking. It lets me play magic like I play Civ VAlso the deck works fine without either commander, which is a bonus. The deck isn't at all dependent on its commanders.
>>92547180So you've never touched a woman in your life
>>92547139So is it the mark of a good or bad TQ when this is a possible response to it?
>>92547139I'm convinced you're this one guy at my LGS. He has gone through about 5 different decks now. Keeps making jokes about Bolas being gay for Ugin. Every single one of his decks has somehow managed to have the same win condition of "turn dragons sideways" and it's honestly getting on my nerves how he's managing to build all these different engines for the same fucking stupid end goal.
It's utter kino
>/edhg/ pretends dragons are a problem >they're all expensive as fuck to cast
>>92547728Does anyone have the altered version of this card with the increased booba? I actually think the art is interesting but it goes good to great with actual visible cleavage.
>>92547847Mana cost means nothing if you cheat them out
>>92547292That pair doesn't work the way you think it does.
fat nigga self-mill>>92547141boring>>92547180boring>>92547182boring>>92547292gay tranny universes beyond garbage>>92547728isn't even a commander>>92547883kino
>>92547931>gay tranny universes beyond garbageDr Who is straighter than you will ever be in your entire life you closet tranny incel.
>>92547956doctor who "trans"formed from a woman to a man.
>>92547931Yeah, it's called a "pet deck" because it's a little thing you keep around to entertain you, not because it's some incredible work of ingenuity.
>TQI just like drawing cards and this motherfucker lets me draw cards
>>92547215"until end of turn" effects are not put on the stack and end as your turn end. you cannot keep buffs on a creature for more than one turn unless it's a static effect
>>92547971and i can call you boring if your pet is a goldfish.
>>92547728I cant believe that one Rhystic Studies faggot made the 30 minute equivalent of "um and that's a good thing, chud" about this crock of shit.
>>92547931>kinoThank you! I never expected anyone to call Magda Kino, especially because it hits three things that /edhg/ hates:>Treasure>Tribal>Tutor on a stick
This game is dead
>>92548040What is effectively a CMC 5 tutor isn't powerful, Magda's tribal isn't obnoxious (hell, it barely exists) and you're obligated to spend the treasures on the tutor
>>92547984>He can't make a goldfish interesting Sad
>>92547134>What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?Her forever and ever. Whenever she comes out, she flips the game upside down as I give everyone multiple triggers to drop freeshit. Setting the table up for an arms race to see how crazy they can get before I shut them down
>>92548093isn't this bitch banned
>>92548101The mono black one is.Mono blue is freegame. Go wild
>>92547973I have a soft spot for Jin, so even though this is storm (gay), it's fine.>>92548093boring>>92548040the most important thing is that magda is mono-red (so none of the gay dragons), and also gives you an excuse to jam random retarded artifacts in your deck. 5 mana portal to phyrexia is bad game design, but it's very funny.>>92548083if we're bringing this back to magic, the problem with these decks will always be that their play pattern is always absurdly samey. >ramp>drop big beaters>interact every threat away>winyou could exchange any of these decks out and still play the game. it's shit!
>>92547931You didn't rate gay bolas as a commander.
>>92548111Rad.
>>92548118that is an enchantment card, which cannot be your commander.
>>92547979aight, my friend was confused because his phased out creature kept the buffs until it phased back in on online
>>92548117It's storm, but with the most telegraphed windup of all time. Maybe that's still gay, but either way I like my Jin deck.
>>92548093I think this is the coolest card hereNever seen her before and I can just feel the energy she gives in the table. It's the equivalent of giving everyone a bag of cocaine and playing russian roulette. I want to play her!
>>92548117>It only does one thingYes, that's why it's labeled a "pet deck"
>>92548176lol everyone who runs this card also runs garbage like core augur to completely shut down their opponents turns. braids is more fun than most of the other pet decks here actually, not really boring, but a lot of braids decks are very obnoxious this way.>>92548177and if a pet deck is shit, i can say that it is.
>>92548063Oh, my Magda deck does NOT focus on the Dwarves, it's Dragon tribal with all the best Treasure support and the very best Dwarves I could justify (4, I think). And it can combo at least three different ways, so might be gay.>>92548117The mono-red dragons are some of the best dragons, so not having access to the other colors doesn't really hurt. Gate to Phyrexia doesn't help my deck whatsoever but it's funny so I'll have to try to stick it in, thanks anon for reminding me it exists.
>>92548220Put descent into avernus in your deck
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>only play mono and 2c decks>3c if it's something like really specific with not many goodstuff cardsanyone else have aesthetic autism
>>92548253i only play WUB and BRG as 3c decks.
>>92547141Most versitile commander 10/10>>92547180Cringe cedh slop 7/10>>92547182Safest option here but fun 9/10>>92547292Dr Who slop 1/10>>92547883Uber sweat boring commander 5/10>>92547931Almost least interesting group hug commanders 6/10>>92547973Passes vibe check 7/10>>92548093Unhinged and avoid at all cost 9/10
someday I will rebuild her
>>92547885Yes it does.
She's easily my favorite deck I have built so far, I like getting a bunch of vampires out early and then she's constantly becoming a bigger and bigger threat and people get scaredExplore is also a really fucking nice mechanic to help will land drops I really like vampires and she's cuteIt's the first deck I play anytime I go to locals
>>92547134>TQMy first commander, jamming as many legendary permanents that I can, as few token generators as I can, and focusing on spreading keywords around with Agrus Kos and Odric
>>92547847They have literally the best commander in the game.
>>92548445>every dragon overcosted by 2>you can run a 1 discount in the command zonewow so powerful
>>92548471But anon, it has 10 power, it's pretty scary
>>92548225Already in, my friend.
>>92548471>every dragon overcosted by 2bullshit. dragons might be expensive, but they came with absolute bullshit abilities like stealing all your opponents artifacts or rolling d20 treasures.
>>92548284Now THAT is the response I expected for my Magda deck, sounds just like my friends.
>>92548537they're all 6 drops even with the discounts lmao, WOTC has ruled for years that if I play a card that costs 6 mana I'm legally entitled to take your car for a joyride while getting head from your sister
>>92548471>Every card in your deck costs 1 less>Effect is impossible to remove or interact with>Active at the start of the game>/edhg/ pretends this isn't the most broken effect ever printed
>>92548593still not as powerful as:>robot who can be a car>lady who adds counters to things>white woman who fucks animalstribal is a mid archetype, and dragon is a shit tribal. Ur-dragon is a mediocre pubstomp deck at best, which only tells me exactly how bad you are at wizard poke
>>92548253Most of my decks are 2 or 3 coloured with one 4c deck in-between. Mono-coloured decks just seem very straight forward and I don't have the staples for one yet, so I don't really wanna build one. Plus they're either lacking in some areas (W, R) or go out of control quickly (G, B). U can also grow out of control pretty easily, but it doesn't have the wincons of the other two.
>>92548253I literally only play decks of they have black
>>92548632>Someone tries to play those commanders>Counterspell them>Someone plays Ur-Dragon>Oops can't interact with it guess you just have to deal with all his cards being cheaper for the whole game because he can leave his commander in the command zone all game and win :3c
It's the penis inspection day.How is your commander doing?Is his pp well?
>>92548663>Jin-GitaxiasProbably got replaced with a prehensile tentacle eyestalk.
>>92548663*their pp
>>92548314You realise that the player who controls Vislor may decide not to draw a card from the doctor, right?
>>92548663>Nicol BolasBig although not seeing much use since he's bottoming for Ugin regularly now.
>>92547931Why is everything so boring?
>>92547134>TQit's really not good but I have lots of moments of people going "oh shoot it's ALL vehicles?" When I hit them with a consulate dreadnought and exile 7. The exile effect is cool at gimping combo decks sometimes but I'm not going to win unless people have already lost life to other stuff through the game
>>92548738Yes, anon. Though they can't choose to not have a maximum hand size.
>>92548799Are there even "you may play an extra land this turn" effects in Blue?
>>92548799Based demo enjoyer
>>92548814Nope, which is also why the backside, cosima, is trash.Closest you get is this guy and I guess sword of forge and frontier but equips fall off vehicles so I don't run it
>>92548868Damn thats pretty good with some bounces
>>92548030It was like 13 minutes you disingenuous corner shooting faggoli
>>92548593Markov is so much worse in every conceivable way. Markov will win the game from the command zone by shitting out tokens. Hell, even Oloro is more degenerate than Ur Papa.
>>92548814You can play picrel at least.>>92548868Oblivion Sower is great when you can fill exiles with cards and/or bounce him. Chromatic lantern can then also let basics tap for two with a gauntlet of power regardless of land type.
>>92548886>Gaining 2 life is better than reducing the cost of every spell by 1Even wotc hasn't been this stupid for years.
>>92548663>Scion of the Ur-DragonI think this is the equivalent of cheating on the test, even if he could probably pass without it.
>>92548868>>92548874>>92548909Its on cast not ETB baka my head
>>92548874>>92548909Honestly my problem isn't ramp usually. Sowers in there because obv synergy but it's not like I can rely on drawing him.I recently put in mana severance so I can fix my draws later in game but the main problem i hit is just not being able to throw enough damage to actually take people out. Vehicles are inherently finicky>>92548964Bounce would still work to recast him, but usually I would never need that much stolen land. It's not like vehicles can pump with mana
>>92548791magic has had an artificial increase in power that's led to homogenized play patterns for nearly every deck.
>>92547134>TQEvery time someone plays against it for the first time they see...>no card advantage>pseudo-evasion >protection, but costs resources >food tokens are generically bad It's just fun? He's obviously not amazing but he can put in some fucking work
>>92547134>tqWhite is my least favorite mono color in edh, but I decided to give it a go.Ended up with this dorky ass owl as the commander and the deck is slowly becoming one of my favorites.It just performs very consistently and I always have fun playing it.
>>9254888013 minutes too long. Go lick his taint you pseudointellectual faggot.I cant even fathom how someone can start a Youtube channel talking about and appreciating the art of this game and make an entire video about that sack of shit Looting art and smugly telling people "You just dont get it."Dude got high off his own supply like so many content creators in this community.Fuck em
Anyone managed to make (mega)morph/disguise work?I tried this precon and it didn't do well at all and really turned me off.
>TQbasic artifact deck that aims to ramp into big creatures, it's not good but I enjoy it.I had the choice between blue Urza and Meria and I opted for the less cancerous choice, plus mycosynth+vandalblast is always fun if it resolves
Kino. Simply kino.
>>92549737This could have been truly sick of he played into the "majesty" of Norn instead of fucking OOGA BOOGA JAZZ HANDS.
>>92549642It's an extremely parasitic, gimmicky, and undersupported mechanic. Its not unplayable but your deck will just become mostly Naya Goodstuff with a dumb gimmick
>TQWe posting bros now.
>>92549858Yes
I love this card. Who's a good commander for it? Just auratron or anything more interesting?
>>92549926only deck I can think of is Bruna, light of alabaster and that thing is so boring
>>92547134I have none since commanders are interchangeable and it's all about deck themes.
>>92549926
Noob here. This seems criminally underrated. Why is it only a 30 cent card? Am I missing something?
>>92548040>tutor in the command zoneAbsolute snorefest. I bet all of your games are exactly the same. Tutors are cancer for edh in general.
>>92550090Narrow as fuck and gruul has monumentally better options.
>>925501365 mana for 4 +1/+1 counters, untapping two creatures (which will remain untapped), an additional combat that they can't be destroyed in, and giving haste to any that might be summoning sick. What else can do all of that for 5 mana?
>>92550090>Dr. Who cards generally haven't been mixing into regular card pools minus a few incredibly powerful options like Displace Dinosaurs>Gruul and 5 mana>Extra combat but for only two creatures>Requires you to have two creatures if you don't want to buff something an opponent hasI don't think it's terrible mind you and some decks like werewolves would probably really appreciate it, but generally you're competing against cards like pic related that affect your whole field and cost less in mana.
>>92548286How'd she play the first time you build her? Seems like she could be cool.
>>92549642Not really, no. The face commander is just too limited. That he can only flip one of your attacking guys is just lame. Yarus, Roar of the Old Gods seems interesting though. I've been trying to rebuild the original precon as him as the lead and it at least so far seems like it could maybe do something.
>>92549684how is this card anything but blue, let alone red/green?
>>92550353because those are green and red abilities.
>>92550353how is turning an artifact into a mana dork not green, and how is exiling the top card of your library not red
>>92550369anything involving artifacts is inherently blue
>>92547141My #1 most wanted skin/flavor redo. New Capenna makes my skin crawl
>>92548663No worries.
>>92550353Because the color pie can be whatever WotC wants it to be nowadays and if you say anything against the new zeitgeist youre a le heckin chud grampa stuck in the old ways and faggots like>>92550360>>92550369Will piss and shit themselves that its totally okay for the two colors that represent chaos and nature to suddenly represent the structured order of artifice on a legendary creature.Nothing matters anymore, nothing has identity, its just all one big homogenized crock of shit
>>92548991There's never enough mana. If you have more mana than you know what to do with, then you simply don't have enough draw to make use of it.
>>92550390I'm sure some alt proxy exists
>>92550353it's one of those cases where the card would too easily be mono blue so it can't be blue at all
>>92550452But then I have to explain to the table that I am autistic
>>92550380Artifacts have been split amongst blue, red, and white for a good chunk of time now. Red gets better payoffs for sacrificing them and returning them from the graveyard, blue gets cost reduction, tutoring, and draw off of them, and white really just gets equipment support alongside red, though now sets have been giving them artifact token generation which is something.>>92550417Red's also the color of smithing and artists. You know, the thing fire is typically associated with in fantasy and red has been doing for what like 10-15 years in Magic at this point, if not more? The weird thing about Meria is her green since it is specifically the color that hates unnatural things.
>>92550469Nah. As long as you don't make it something retarded like a scantily clad anime girls most people will just kinda shrug and not mind.
>>92547134>tqHe's pretty low-power and casual and fun to play.
>>92550502Id agree with you but "tapping" artifacts to do a thing is usually very blue and/or white.Red DOES have artifact synergies, but, even in your example, its historically been sacrificing/destroying them to do something. It goes into red's concept of chaos, like Orks from 40k; "Smash things together to make a BIGGA THING."
>>92548799I also run this but it's bad mono blue domain.>>92548814Pic related does a ton of work. You play your opponents lands as your drop and use this to crew to drop your own land
>>92550526There's some dude at my locals that uses those shitty AI anime girl alts for all his commanders
>>92549926I just grabbed one of these for Dakkon
>see cool looking commander >It's blueHard pass
I'm imagining this thing talks with SaffronOlive's voice.
>>92550417>cant have an artifact focused legendary that shares green or this guy will shit his diaper
>>92550814as if Loot couldn't get any more cursed
This is the only black commander I've seen that interests me. I have normally been offput from black entirely due to my hatred of evil and ugliness. Christ is King.With that being said, how is it to play in real life?
>>92550814the visible gums always take me back to the naked screaming feminist
>>92550841Braids my beloved
>>92550841not going to help you become a heretic. find jesus again.
>>92548040He's retarded and you're gay. Magda is a terrible commander to play or play against.
>TQ
>>92547134This deck is so fucking bad on paper, but in practice it wins quite a lot. Its early game is kind of weak/unassuming, but once turn 4 rolls around, things get very nutty very quickly
>>92550841>sacrifice a permanent to make your opponents sac or take damage and you get cardsIt sounds like you need permanents that like to be sac'd.
>>92550417>druid doesn't invent or manufacture plows>but discovers he can grow more food when he plows his landRetard
>>92550417>the two colors that represent chaos and natureRed also represents creativity, while green also represents a tie to the past and tradition. Repurposing and building upon relics of a bygone age fits into RG without much issue.
>>92550981>>92551104Ah here come the WotC shills and retards, right on queue.I envy your guys herculean physique, but with all the hoops you constantly jump through I suppose it came naturally.
>>92550353>color pie>thinking they care about colors on a legend
>>92551157>wahhhh nothing has identity>its totally okay for one color to be the "artifact color" when artifacts ape what every color does, thereby granting an extension to one color to do everything>but doing everything is just in blue's identity!If you truly gave a shit about the color pie you would rightfully recognize artifacts as being the single biggest color pie break in this entire fucking game, but you're just another faggot blue cuck that stands on sacred old cows in order to justify his temper tantrum. >he thinks if you are associated with chaos or nature you are completely unable to use toolsStupid bitch.
>>92549858Bobo! He is going in the 99 of my Hazezon deck
>>92551228Hey this is a pretty good card, added to my buy list
>>92550854looks like my cunty supervisor kek
>>92550668Do you mean mono blue or has blue in its colors?
>>92550668post it so I can play it at least
>>92551223Where's the guy who gets incredibly salty about Ghen being black?
>>92550841Unironically play her as superfriends. Battles and planeswalkers are basically a guaranteed 2 damage to everyone and 3 cards drawn every turn; even if you sac a creature because the other players won't in order to swing at the walkers.
>>92550901got a list?
>>92549642If you want a Morph commander, play either Kadena or pic related. Gruul Aristocrats can be a thing, and having sac outlets in place of actually paying their mana costs to flip them over *AND* get the effects is precisely what you want. This guy is everything Kaust wishes he would beis what I would say if Kaust has one unique trick up his sleeve: Manifest/Cloak. Three colors have a lot of ways to reveal shit from the top of your library. Impromptu Raid, Game Preserve, Call of the Wild, Killer Instinct to name a few that don't care about Manifest. Then you have the ones who do care about Manifest. Rage/Lightform, Mastery of the Unseen, and Whisperwood Elemental are the key ones here. You can use him like a janky version of Alta. I actually run very little morph in my own Kaust deck since all of it is in Yelan and Kadena. His second ability is significantly better than his card draw and should be built around as such.
>>92549642>>92551681"pic related" being this
>>92548659Have you ever lost to Ur-Dragon anon? Like once? Ever? I've seen the deck a handful of times over my commander career from different players, never once has it been good.
>>92551708It's been good every time I've seen it.
>>92551708I've only played against ur dragon twice one time the got had no mana and when someone countered ur dragon he just sat there for 4 more turns until he finally pooped off but after 1 more board wipe he diedThe second time I was playing Tasha and deck him out before turn 5 when I made him mill until he hit a basic and he had none left The only time I've seen scary ur dragon stuff is on YouTube watching kibler
>>92551708Every Ur-Dragon deck I've seen was just wallet tribal and eventually a deck like that will hit the mana crypt+sol ring+arcane signet opener and run away with it.
whats your favorite/most fun artifact commander, I dont have any commanders that are artifact related
>>92551754All the coolest artifact commanders don't use any blue.
>>92551754meria equipments is pretty neat
>>92551754My friend uses this precon and has a high win rate in our casual games. Very strong. Fun? Not sure but crushing your enemies is fun.
do those sample packs inside precons actually have anything good?have a couple of precons that are still sealed since I don't really play in person anymore, I'm curious, but don't want to buy more sleeves/deck boxes for no reason if I open them
>The blue and red wisps are at $5 nowThanks
What are my options for an entry level cedh or bordline cedh deck that doesn't win with oracle
>>92551932Believe it or not, yes. I got the fat latina girl precon from Wilds of Eldraine and opened this
>>92552059urza doesn't win with oracle
>>92552059See>>92552057You can add thoracle but you dont need it, she has multiple wincons and she can win at instant speed. They havent made a face commander this cedh ready since Anje
>>92552080Is narset good? I know she wins just buy trying to do infinite combat phases
>>92552103She fell out of favor since 2018. Partner commanders and the 2020 commander powecreep really changed the cedh landscape. Multiple combats off walk effects arent really a thing anymore unless youre Godo or Najeela. You can try something like Kinnan too, very strong commander but I dont like playing the deck because the commander is ugly
>>92552059Niv Mizzet, Malcom//Breeches and Godo are a good start
>>92551932They can. I got the vault boy sol ring in my Mothman precon.
>>92551748You didn't just, I dunno, wipe the board when they played three dragons?
>>92551748>if you draw a sol ring opener you can win in commander!wowe
>>92552057Anon... you invested, right?
>>92552057.. why?Are people building this with 1 mana can trips to dig through the deck or something?
>>92551932Yeah, actually. I pulled a foil wanted poster Gisa from my Stella Lee precon's sample pack
>>92551932It's just like any other pack, it can, most of the time it won't
>>92552411The commander goes infinite with the blue wisps
>>92552479Oh I see. Untap + draw becomes copied for whole deck.
>>92551932From one of the M2X set precons for Chandra gave me a foil Terror of the Peaks and the Commander Masters Superfriends one gave me Force of Will
>>92552134Yeah I despise how kinnan looks and from what I've seen he's one of the most degenerate commanders in the game, maybe il also check out najeela, I was interested in playing her also, godo seemed a little too boring though
>>92552646Theres also Tayam. Its one of those cedh commanders that dont look like cedh at first glance, but he's actually mighty potent.
>tqMy favorite graveyard deck. Storms off and draws the entire deck if I generate a shit ton of blue and shuts off faggy control decks
>>92552740He seems pretty neat
Any of you want to hang out and play MTG? I won't kill you, dox you, or steal your shit.
>>92553125Now that you specifically said those things, I expect all three.
>>92553125I don't want to have my dick sucked either. So if you have any Selesnya decks, it's a definite no go.
>>92553234I only play selesnya colors...
>>92553267GWx is fine, GW is not. You don't play Trostani, do you?
>tqI've had this guy as commander for 8 years now, and I still enjoy playing him even when I have 14 other mono white decks.
>>92553234>>92553267Selesnya is based and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>92553325I bet your breath smells like cock.
>>92553349No u
>>92553353As far as I'm aware, nobody that browses 4chan has sucked me off, so I don't think your breath smells like my dick specifically. Just penis in general.
>>92551754Chiss-Goria "oops all artifacts"
>>92547723>turn dragons sideways>stupidLow T
>>92552646I refuse to play Kinnan because how pushed he is by WotC and because they purposefully wanted him to be a fat autistic rainbow haired Steven Universe knockoff. I refuse to play Ellevere because she's fat and ugly. I refuse to play any cart featuring that Azorius troon planeswalker in the art or flavor text.
>>92553282There's literally nothing wrong with playing Trostani. I just want to make copies of big creatures and gain a whole bunch of life!!
>>92553463Dont forget it has a basedjak yak in the background. Id be ok with Kinnan if he had the yuriko treatment; waifubait commander thats obviously very pushed but no, the card has gotta be obnoxious on all fronts
Selesnya has ramp and the best removal in the game and amazing creatures
Who is the Magnus Carlsen of MTG?
>>92547134excuse me while i counter and kill all your stuff, then bring it back from the dead to serve me.
>>92553325This. There's nothing wrong with getting on your knees and sucking the table off so that they don't kill your creatures or attack you for a turn. Drinking cum is not gay, it's tactical.
>>92553707I'm assuming this dude would be the best option if I wanted to do zombie tribal
>>92553874The Scarab God is a strong choice, but I'm not sure about 'best'.
>>92552057what the hell is a wisp
>>92550814I imagine it sounding like Stitch.
>>92553298dude's expression is what I can only describe as "getting texted while walking home late at night"
>>92552646Kinnan is so good that cEDH is willing to run him as commander despite green being literally the worst color in the format.He is actually just so pushed that a borderline monoblue commander is a contender for the best option in the game because he's basically a threat of infinite mana in the command zone. He is the reason people unironically think Isochron + Reversal is a 7 combo. Because Kinnan just does the same thing for free and prints disgusting value even when he's not at an infinite threshold.
>>92553971I assume anon means these.
>>92554240>despite green being literally the worst color in the format./edhg/ is too dumb to realize this
>>92547134>TQKarametra, God of Harvests since late 2014 who I occasionally swap between Captain Sisay. Love big, stompy legends.
>>92549926return my sword.
Thinking about building this cute mech pilot finally, any fun tech?
>>92554514>Gravepurge, Footbottom Feast, Forever Young, Bone HarvestStack the deck for a big +1 on Grist
>>92549968Honestly same. Maybe I haven't gotten to play enough, but as a Vorthosian tribalfag it's less about having a favorite deck that I keep trying to hone and update and more wanting an array of decks that encapsulate parts of MtG, be it a Boros deck headed by Razia and Aurelia stuck in the 99, a technically-Sultai but effectively Mono-G Nissa/Landfall deck headed by Yarok, or a Lae'zel deck that focuses on abusing multiple different types of counters instead of focusing on +1/+1 or Energy. I'm not scouring search engines for the best Landfall synergies in those colors, it's putting in everything that has the subject in the art or quoted in the flavor text, and then making cuts as I so deem to be casually playable, with a goal being a powerlevel between on par with the source block or representative of the mechanic's powerlevel in a vacuum. If that means my Jund Barbarian Tribal has next to no card draw, well then that's not their colors anyway, so be it.
No pet commander either. I play all decks I've built 10+ times to find and fix their weaknesses, and when I'm finally content with one, I put it into my box of decks and start building/testing the next one. I build around 2 decks per month.
Is this decent removal?
>>92555726I wouldn't mind drafting one or two.
>>92555726It's fine. I'd run a Generous Gift over it every time. But if you're already running all the better removal available, it looks good enough to include.
>>92555726Decent? Yes. Good? No. Two mana or less is where you want your spot removal, since you have to leave mana open to use it. Generous Offering gets away with costing 3 because it can hit almost anything, but that doesn't always make the cut.
>guy signs up for commander pod>turns out he also signed up for draft>halfway into our game "Bye guys, I wasn't gonna draw anything anyway">fucking leaves and irreparably ruins the board stateCool
>>92554299Green is definitely the worst color for cEDH, its definitely not the worst color in casual commander. The falloff and actually the reason why kinnan isn't more dominant is because bowmasters exists
>>92552839Ive brewed a $500 budget borderline cedh tayam deck before. He's a lot of fun but actually really really hard to play well. He doesn't just win by going for standard infinite combos, you need to know when and how to accrue value over time and to gauge when you've built enough to go for a protected win. Its a quite resilient deck though and can play through a lot of stax as well so its kind of hard to stop once it gets going
>>92555726Others have mentioned Generous Gift, but it also has to compete with pic related.
>>92552646The first budget borderline cEDH deck I was brewing was kinnan and it felt pretty oppressive playing against friends at any budget. Hes too pushed so Im also leaning against building him. I explored tayam and master transcendent. Now im 50/50 btw master and najeela
>>92555911Fuck
>>92555911>>92555950There's also this
>>92555950>>92555969These are excellent.
chaos warp is a garbage cardnext person i see running chaos warp as spot removal in red is getting stabbed in the eye
>>92547728Its not good, but at least they were going for something.
>>92554514Angel of Suffering has served me well along with the suggestions from this anon >>92554558
>>92556022Calm down MaRo
>>92556022I run Chaos Warp as both spot removal and as protection from spot removal. Miss me with your degenerate combo piece, sure, but also literally miss my cards with your removal while I Natural Order into something else entirely. I might even Natural Order into the exact same card, and then you'll be twice as mad that I'm getting an extra round of ETB triggers while fizzling your shit.
>>92556022I use chaos warp to fuck with stax pieces in Izzet.
Inferno Titan & Primeval Titan linked up!need it or keep it??!
just played a 3 hour long fucking game against new gonti, tiny bones and gisa, during that game sheoldred was cast 10 times and living death was cast 4 and the only reason i was finally fucking freed from my suffering was champion of dusk hitting the board when i had 20 vampires on board
>>92556420Sad to hear about Black on Black on Black on Black violence
>>92547134>What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?I just think zombies, and the cards that support them, are the coolest in the game and she's probably the best zombie commander.
>>92556615I like zombies so much they made me break my rule about never buying a secret lair.
>>92556502i didnt mind the cluster fuck early on, but after sheoldred resolved for the 5th time i was getting tired of it, also god damn i hate gisaat least i got to play my shitty boros angels deck before that shit showi also killed someone with commander damage from aurelia
>>92556638Which Aurelia was it?
>>92556650he was at 11 then i dropped the multiple combat phase aurelia with her her and brisella meld were the only reason i wanted to play an angel deck
>>92553550They specifically told the artist to make him fat and autistic. I know I am insulting a lot of the mtg and /edh community saying this but I can never get behind or support the fat acceptance movement and I don't like WotC's new agenda to make all the characters either fat or old ugly roastie ladies.I really do not understand the push for old roasties with all these granny commanders. Who is that meant to appeal to? Old ladies aren't going to suddenly play magic. Boys and men aren't attracted to old grannies. Girls who enter the game don't want to play with granny commanders, they want beautiful elf or fairie or vampire people. Why is WotC pushing the ugly granny characters like Becket Brass? And why do they refuse to make cool straight male chad characters? It's so stupid.
>>92554257Cerulean Wisp
>>92556661I hope this bitch gets to draw a full Aurelia card in the future
>>92556678i honestly was gonna do mono white angels with avacyn or gisella as the commander but i like aurelia too much and i like my weeb alt arts
>>92556369Squish that cat.
>>92556697Yeah I was hoping the new Aurelia would get weeb art also, instead we got some awful treatments.
>>92550814Folks… it’s Rudy from Alpha Investments.
Dare I?
>Bounty Hunter>Termination Facilitator>now Bounty Board>Mathas, Fiend Seeker/Chevill, Bane of MonstersWhich one do you think is better to spread bounty counters to everyone's stuff? I'm leaning Mathas because of the extra color, plus the extra mana and semi-group-hug will help avoid getting hard targeted compared to "AIEEEE 2 mana commander draws you cards! THREAT!" but are there G cards that are particularly conducive to this not-Proliferate that I'm gonna be missing out on? Or should I just keep Mardu for the better staples?
>>92556839Transformers is based and flinging artifacts is fun so yes
>>92556839Why does Megatron have Yaoi hands?
>>92556903Mathas does not synergies with bounty counters. He gives bounty counters AND the ability to draw a card when it dies. Personally I avoid staples and I hate Green, so either or really.
>>92556903Chevill monster hunter themed deck is pretty fun to play.
>>92556105I like Angel of Suffering, have it in a Ludevic Necrogenius list, which I just realized I never got around to converting into a Mimeoplasm deck
anyone mind redpilling me on Dahida?
>>92557115No one will target her until you -3 twice and then you'll never be able to play her again without her immediately getting smacked
>>92557229That sounds miserable.
>>92557246Welcome to Dihada
>>92557229Personally I just +2 a bunch until people realize what the -11 does and that they can do nothing to stop it at that point because all my dudes are indestructible blockers and they don’t have exile removal
>>92557115Commander is gay. Your general needs to be a creature, it can't be a planeswalker.
>>92557271Who doesn't run exile removal these days?
>3 signets>3 talismans>arcane>fellwar>solwhat are the candidates for the 10th rock
>>92557310Mana CryptChrome MoxMox DiamondMox Amber
>>92557283It should be an Elder Dragon like the lord Sheldon intended
>>92557310just run a mox opal at this point
>>92557115The redpill is that this phrase is among the worst ideas ever conceived in Mark's malfunctioning brain.
Pic related is probably the single best Ninja commander other than Yuriko, but he does run into the problem of how does he win (other than adding some random unrelated combo to the deck). Ninja beatdown is too anemic and on top of that, well, you could just run Yuriko
>>92557310Thought vessel
Is this any good, or does sorcery speed kill it?
>>92557292don’t have exile removal (in hand)*
>>92557443Evaluate it in terms of your meta. In my meta there are plenty of combos, so it being sorcery speed means it's worthless. In metas that don't deal with that shit it's probably good in a +1/+1 counter deck, otherwise it's kind of just worse dueregar hedge mage
>>92557443Sorcery speed makes it almost worthless. You'll probably see it in a few sideboards while it's in standard because of its ability to 2-for-1 people, but a 3 mana sorcery that destroys an artifact and an enchantment will only matter if there's a top deck that relies on its artifacts and enchantments to win. Keep in mind, Disenchant is standard, so there needs to be a strong need to kill one of each at the same time. It won't get any play in other formats.
>>92552839honestly, it's super boring. you either combo out if you even try to play synergisticly or your tiny 3 drops do nothing the whole game after you have spun on your wheels a bittoo dependant on the general; other creatures are not strong enough on their own
>>92550301vehicles and big artifacts with a side of land destruction
Anyone ever built him? Is he fun? [Spoiler] can he win a game if your opponents aren't retarded? [/spoiler]
>>92556697>i like my weeb alt arts>giselaShe has this at least. A young fella at the LGS started rattling off some animes he liked when he saw my Gisela, had to stop him because the last anime I watched was Fist of the North Star.
>>92556674>whyDemoralization of white people
Calamity, Galloping Inferno is modified and saddled by the Akki Battle Squad... does swinging make you go infinite?
>>92557796yeah but there's probably better things to do with it
>>92556839>Doesn't transform into an equipment - gun
>>92557796You could theoretically do this combo all at once for 7 mana.
>>92557785Based schizo
>>92557734That doesn't really tell me how often you watch anime unless you're implying you're like 50+ and haven't watched anime since the 80s
>>92557355Not really since PW commanders suck
>>92557310I really wonder how anyone reaches this mythical 10 rock amount in decks that aren't 3-5 color. What 10 rocks are people using in mono blue? Must be a lot of shitty 3 drop ones like sphere. I can only name a couple of rocks that would work and most will be colorless mana.
i want to scrap my hazezon into either neyali or purphoros because I have (skill) issues with making a landfall 3c deck work at relatively low budgetHow much of a downgrade will it be?
>>92558309Thank god they do. Last thing I want is fucking Jace, Mind Sculptor or T3feri in the command zone.
>it's another episode of /edhg/ having a mental breakdown over kinnanYou WILL bow to the fatty autistic woke pushed boy
>>92557310Mind Stone or Commanders Sphere, since they replace themselves in a pinch.
>>92556661>>92556678How tight are an angels holes?
>>92556615>best zombie commander Nah, it's Wilhelt. She's good though.
>>92558309Some of them are good, they "suck" in the sense that they degrade the game.
this little dude is underrated
>>92558723Seems like there are better ways to populate.
>>92558613I made the mistake to read his background story and I never wanted to touch this simp after that. Gisa cucked him so hard that I can't help but cringe.
>>92558778based Gisa
>Blue player casts Time Stop>"I counter your turn"
>>92558760Not in colorless
wanted to get a couple of energy cards like gonti's aether heart to flesh out the science fallout precon but it looks like there's no point with mh3 on the horizon and the whole ass energy-based precon.
>>92558778>Gisa gets some random fucker simping for her so hard he becomes a zombie>Geralf simps for Liliana for a single day and immediately hates her afterwards but Gisa continues to insist they're a couple to fuck with GeralfThe Cecanis are always fun.
>>92556839Transformers cards saying 'convert' on them because that's apparently the IP-specific term even though I've literally never heard anybody say anything other than 'transform' when it came to Transformers is always such a weird thing. Like they're not even different things in Magic rules, 'convert' is treated 1:1 as 'transform'.
>*forgives everyone's student debt*nothing personel green players
>>92559370If Gonti's Aether-Heart and Aetherworks Marvel AREN'T reprinted in the precon, though, the price spike is going to be absolutely absurd. You missed the window on them being dollar-bin rares, but now you have to gamble on whether they're going to $40 or not.
>>92559566I don't think it's exactly the same, I'm pretty sure there aren't any transform cards that can be cast as either side.
>*forgives everyone's PPP loans*nothing personnel, black players
>>92559614Please don't remind me of the hell that was sorting out which payroll hours clients were using for their PPP loan forgiveness applications because they hadn't thought about what periods did and did not qualify for the Employee Retention Credit.
>>92559566Hasbro has to insist that Transformers "convert" for legal reasons, as otherwise people making other transforming toys could argue that "transformer" is not a brand name but a product description, which means they could call their toys transformers as well. By insisting the proper term for the action of turning the toy from a car to robot is "converting" instead of "tranforming" Hasbro can argue that the product description would be "converter" and "Transformers" is a brand name specific to their brand of transforming - I mean converting, toys.
>>92559613That's a function of the More Than Meets the Eye ability, not of 'convert' as a term. A TDFC could still do that if it wanted. 'Convert' and 'transform' are entirely synonymous in Magic rules.
Painting some full art is it worth it?
>>92559734Yea, why wouldn't it be? Got any more? Ive seen some pretty cool customs in the past
>>92559734Hand painted is the highest tier of proxies/alters and there's a big market for them, especially for commanders.
>>92558599Factory sealed
>>92558651Thats actually a good way to explain why Plansewalkers suck, the tempo just gets screwed up untill they leave the table. If your commander is a walker then yea, its going to happen every game
>>92559809Etsy is a good place to look if you want one. Some pretty cool custom MTG things in general there, like deck boxes
>>92556022What else would I run if I actually want interaction in mono red deck that isnt burn
>ninjutsu a creature off ornithopter>draw a card of satoru>replay ornithopter>draw a card of satoru>ninja deals combat damage to you>draw a card off grazilaxxnext turn>attack with ninja and ornithopter>you block ninja>return it to hand with grazilaxx >return ornithopter to hand before damage step with ninjutsu of just-bounced-ninja>draw a card off satoru>replay ornithopter post combat>draw a card off satoru>lose to thoracle im in love guys the deck seems really cheap to build too. I am so happy i get to do ninja shit without selling my soul to yuriko faggotry.
>>92558651>>92559829this is entirely because people who play PW cards can't be bothered to know what effect should be deployed in what context so they spend their time re-reading the card every time because they have shit where their brain should be
>>92551916I fucking hate the two hotdog man>>92553707I built this with a huge focus on Zombie token generation and it’s fucking miserable. Is hard control the proper route?
i'm trying to avoid making this a generic goodstuff/shapeshifter deck, any suggestions for interesting things to run with him?
>>92560016you can play literally all of these cards, and that's about it. https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Ascarecrow
>>92547134>What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?Can have infinite turns Can whack people with 40/40 infect creature Have a response for almost everythingSismic, pretty much the color of being a dick
I just can't cope with having a commander that's not indestructible or at least hecksproof. There's just too much fucking removal bullshit. Am I alone here?
>>92560090I just play commanders I can cheat the commander tax on or eminence
>>92547134>What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?Sephara, Sky's Blade. Kills people quickly with a huge commander, can stall out games with a wall of blockers, some of the most annoying creatures in the game have flying and now with sephara they also get indestructible. Like its all peak.
>>92559956I'm relatively new to edh, just how bad is yuriko?Been thinking of converting my Alela precon to another dimir commander (she's starting to not feel good in our group since they're getting more flying blockers), and yuriko is one of my choices.I know she's a super popular pleb choice but is the no-tax faggotry that degenerate?
>>92548253This isn't aesthetic it's hipster
>>92560200yuriko is former cedh-viable, so she's far too powerful as a commander at most tables
>>92560200>just how bad is yurikoShe isn't. Yuriko is really good.
>>92560200It is incredibly annoying, definitely. If you want a cool dimir commander Lasav the Multiferious or Xanathar Guild Kingpin are both on my radar personally. I've also tried out Tormod/Ramirez partner combo and had fun with that as a group hug milling value deck that wins by cycling gempalm polluter with a board full of tormod zombies and buying it back with tortured existence.
>>92560200Yuriko is very strong
>>92560200She's obnoxiously strong. Even if you intentionally gimp her by making it the clunkiest ninja tribal deck you will still deal about 3-4 damage per attack. Opponents wont be able to effectively get rid of her because of commander tax, and youre in Blue/Black so you have a lot of resilience and interaction. The right play is to remove her enablers, and even then its so easy to protect those cheap cost creatures. Another is to stick something like Song of the Dryads or Imprisoned in the Moon to make sure she doesnt do <anything> but thats banking on 1-2 cards. At cedh level she's decent, one of babby's first cedh decks.
>>92560200Yuriko is gay and lame. Play a cool one like Talion.
>>92560250>>92560251>>92560255>>92560259>>92560284Got it, thanks, that's enough reason for me to strongly consider others (like new Satoru).>>92560286I have him (with that borderless art too) but I'm looking to move away from just faeries.dec which isn't doing too well in our group.
>>92560312New Satoru is actually a pretty good ninja tribal commander even if a bit plain. You do need a good finisher though, ninjas by themselves dont really have something that can establish checkmate situations like most tribal decks
>>92560332This is why the other Satoru is my commander usually. When everything's a ninja, ninjas have a good finisher. All of the good finishers, in fact, even if Blightsteel Colossus is highly unsporting
>>92560090>HecksproofHeck, I always aim to make sure my commander gets it asap after it's in play.
>>92560347My issue with og Satoru is he does a fairly good job taking out 1 guy, then you have the others ganging up. The moment you have him on the board, everyone's going to focus on you
>>92560370That's why you ramp into 7 mana for casting + a trigger instead of casting him T3
I feel like an idiot asking this but what is the order of operations for Palantir with Crime triggers on-board? The solid block of mechanics with a target after the "then" is throwing me off. Is it:>Scry + Influence>Crime>Draw/Mill>Scry + Influence>Draw/Mill>Crime>Crime>Scry+Influence>Draw/Mill
>>92560444the opponent is targeted before you scry
I love making the graveyard an extension of my hand. I always get targeted tho and my deck isn't good enough to 1v3 :(
>>92558465apparently people are stuffing moxes and crypts into every deck
>>92560492Because this card is insanely degenerate and everyone is tired of Spore Frog every turn cycle.
>>92557310Liquidmetal Torque is pretty good if you have any Artifact tomfoolery.
>>92547134Anyone down to play some games on spelltable? I'm bored and would rather at least play with anons than true randos
>>92560090>Play at a scene where everyone fits in Oubliette, Song of the Dryads, Darksteel Mutation and Imprisoned in the Moon in every deck that can manage themI have to bluff every turn that I have countermagic and/or enchantment removal.
>>92560458It literally says "scry 2. Then target".
>>92560757Just exile it, silly!!
>>92549926I love this whole cycle of auras, so I jammed em' all in my Niv-Mizzet Reborn deck. Really could do the same with any 5C commander. Child of Alara would be pretty funny with a pile of keywords and P/T buffs, for example.
>>92560444Any targeted spell or ability has its targets chosen as a condition of putting it on the stack. Crime triggers occur when you put a targeting spell or ability on the stack, go above it on the stack, and resolve before it.Other effects do not go on the stack while something on the stack is resolving. You can't wedge a trigger in the middle of Palatir's ability, between the scry and the mill, for example. The entire ability has to resolve first.
>>92558197that's awesome
>>92560492Play BUG Master instead
>>92558465star compasscoldsteel heartsky diamondarcane signetmind stonemox opalchrome moxsol ringmana cryptspringleaf drumany other of the 2 cmc colorless rocks
>>92561297I hate cross-promotion cards but thanks for the suggestion
>>92558465Mind Stone, Fellwar Stone, Thought Vessel, Arcane Signet, Sky Diamond, Coldsteel Heart, Sol Ring, Everflowing Chalice, Liquimetal Torque, Prismatic Lens.I don't think you need 10 exactly in every single deck, but it's totally possible to hit 10 in a 1c without resorting to Crypt/Mox or 3CMC rocks.
>>92561471>mostly colorless
>>92561495You're playing fucking monocolor. How badly do you need pips?
>>92560492This and Tergrid are the reasons I run around 10 pieces of graveyard removal in each deck.
>>92561576why dont you have a regular playgroup so you dont have to deal with faggot shit like muldrotha and tegrid instead
>>92561662tergrid is based just stop discarding permanents like a retard
>>92561696Okay
>>92547134>TQYou Posted him!I like him because giving my opponent tons of cards means they'll always use their best cards as fast as possible before they lose them to another wheel. It also kills everyone at the same time, so nobody feels targeted.
Hey all, I'd like some feedback on my Slimefoot, the Stowaway deck: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/eMCMjOQmBUmgBxa_DBz7MQThe main mechanic is to grind through loads of saprolings, do you guys have any advice?
>>92561751More token makers, I don't think you have nearly enough there.
>>92561696youre a faggot and no one likes you dude
>someone plays degenerate kill on sight commander>they cry when removal gets used
>>92561817every time
>>92561751>34 lands>not even 10 ramp cardsngmi bro
Did you know that Ojer Axonil is pronounced as oyer ashonil ? Also how would you become more like him?
>>92561751>Slimefoot, the foot that Slimed up
>>92561751You need to give your deck a funny name or people won't think you're coolalso try this
>>92562121>>92561751slimefoot eventually becomes an aristocrats decks, also use attrition, fun for all the table
>>92560973Literally the only ruling on Palantir states that you choose the target when it first goes on the stack.6/16/2023 You choose a target for Palantír of Orthanc's ability when it goes on the stack. If that target is illegal as the ability tries to resolve, the ability is removed from the stack. You won't put an influence counter on Palantír of Orthanc, and you won't scry, draw, or mill.
>>92562121this card is so good for pharika
>>92562235yeah but nobody plays her
>>92562249i do, and it means more fun for me!
>>92562270I think that you're just a falseflagger that pretends that someone would play Pharika. I play her in the 99 of my retarded grave hate Sapling deck, however.
thoughts in 2024?
>>92562359always remove on sight
>>92562359I turned it into a frog last time
>>92562359>darksteel mutation or song of the dryadsanyway, the rest of us will continue playing the game
>>92562359Played by brainless albeit generally chill people in higher level pods, anyway I cast darksteel mutation and pass
>>92562452I once rakdos charmed it
>>92562458last week someone tried to play krenko and i stole him with new blood and he tried to send him to the command zone and nearly quit when he found out he couldnt
>>92547180Like i said in the previous thread, I refuse to place this WotC pushed fat piece of autistic shit out of principle.
>>92562458I did that to a jetmir player after he used snake basket to make a billion snakes
>>92562359Muxus is better
>>92562385>>92562452I see people talk about playing Darksteel and Song of the Dryads way more often than I see people run these in decklists or at my tables these days. Spot removal is rarer and rarer over the years I think.
>>92562555Those cards, Frogify and Kenrith's Transformation are the best way to vaminos commanders in 2024
>>92562555people used to run them more years ago. i dont run them in my lists anywhere near as much as i used to. i think the problem is that there are a lot of threats nowadays, so people look more toward using cards that give them options like farewell. i blame wotc for printing cards which require players to have such catch all solutions in their decks as responses.i used to pack a deck full of cards like those when i needed to shut the combo crybaby up because i stopped him from winning asap, which would waste everyone's time due to us having to start the game over again.
>>92561795you should stop projecting dude
>>92562555Spot removal is rarer these days, that's why I run more removal like imprison in the moon and Oubliette. It's stronger than standard removal against decks with little access to enchantment removal like krenko or when shitters cut removal for their combo faggotry.
>>92562310https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AIcnqDDWI0mlIKqjloUH4Ahere is my lovingly curated pharika list with primer
>>92547134>What's your pet commander and why do you like playing them?Gandalf, Friend of the Shire, and the price for this promo finally went down enough for me to get one. I like Gandalf because what can I say, I've always loved the character since my dad first read me the hobbit when I was 6, I dressed as him for Halloween a few times, and then the Lord of the Rings movies came out when I was in middle school and I was treated to more Gandalf kino. In college this Gandalf edit youtube video used to crack me up and it still makes me laugh to this day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1jPnm33PkkI like the monoblue Gandalf because he's unassuming, and allows me to play at instant speed. I run him as a Polymorph commander, and being able to Flash in Gandalf at the end of an opponent's turn and casting Polymorph that same turn is fun. I don't run any Ring Tempts you shit. I'm considering adding Glamdring to my list for thematic reasons as a plan C wincon behind Hullbreak Horror and Dramatic Scepter combo, but it would probably make the deck worse. A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.
>>92562555I only run em in decks that can recur them easy if dealt with. and all being enchantments there are not many decks to put them in
>>92562040It's not oyer, it's "o-hair".
>>92562606the final cope
>>92563488>>92563488I baked. I care
>>92562555There's probably some influence on the sheer number of playable board wipes that are available now and every ""cEDH"" YTer pointing out the basic math that 1 card for one thing is worse* than 1 card for all things.
